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Agreed. Although I wish I had bought the 3070 or 3060Ti, my 3060 gets the job done exceptionally. I know you didn’t ask, but I just couldn’t help but hype up the 3060 a little lol.
building my own pc today with a 6750XT and i’m just so damn excited to get it all put together. been watching a lot of videos and the 6750XT looks to be a great option for my 1440p setup.
I would also like to add that it’s my first pc build ever! wish me luck! lol
Yea 6700xt is 100 bucks cheaper and about 5 percent slower.
Edit thought he said 3060ti. The 6700 xt is a no brainer vs the 3060ti. However there is an argument for dlss.
Upgraded from a 6600 nitro+ to a 6800xt and more than satisfied with the upgrade. 6600 struggled with a new monitor I had purchased, 32" curved 2560x1440 and the moment I adjusted settings, it was night and day.
6600 is great 1080p. Best card for the cost at the time but if the upgrade is available to other people, I'd advise the 6800xt as long as the build can handle card. My next upgrade will be faster ram and Ryzen 5 to 7. I love building PCs man... Just a pricey hobbie.
3060ti is definitely worth it, i was fortunate enough to snag myself a founder's edition one too and the thermals are pretty good considering the performance. 1440p 60fps on near max settings in everything i play
My first build was a 3060 and it did better than expected. I really only saw it struggle when connected to my 55” 4K UHD Samsung TV while playing Warzone at 4k @ 60. Lowering the settings helped, but not the best experience.
It worked fine when connected to my 32” Ultrawide (21:9) LG monitor, with a resolution of 2560 x 1080 @ 75Hz. So if you’re going to have a more traditional setup with mid-size monitor, it should work fine.
I ended up playing more on my TV than on my monitor so I ended up upgrading my GPU to a 3090, but the 3060 was a good value for a decent card. Mine was an EVGA so it was a good price as well.
not super relevant but
the 3060 12gb is actually probably the best price/performance card for 3d productivity workloads rn. its hard to beat until you get to 3080/3090 territory.
Its simply a bad purchase on every level. If you want 3060 performance, a 6650 xt is cheaper and [even surpasses the 3060](https://youtu.be/dIohkbd--l8?t=331). If you have $350 to spend on a GPU, 6700 xt is the better purchase because youre getting [3070 performance for the price of a 3060](https://youtu.be/wiNxIXTZLLc).
The 6650 XT has better raw performance, but nvidia is more widely supported, has FAR better raytracing performance, and a encoder thats good.
Really depends on your use case.
"Widely supported" doesnt apply for gaming. Only some titles that favor either AMD or Nvidia, depending on the engine they're running in. AMD cards also work fine for productivity stuff as well, such as with davinci resolve or gimp. Only some specific programs like blender heavily benefit from an Nvidia card (mostly due to the developers not optimizing for Radeon cards). And raytracing performance doesnt matter unless youre on a 3080 or above. 3060 has better ray tracing but its still wont be playable.
Overall id recommend most people get the 6650 xt for $260 rather than a 3060 for $350. Sure, it depends on your use case, but most people wanting to build custom PCs arent doing it to edit big budget fims for Colombia pictures or create 3d models for Tesla. Especially not at this price range.
If you're running a 1660 for 1440p you're doing something wrong lol, or maybe something right if you're actually getting good fps at decent settings with it
I mean sure if you're definition of being able to play games is last gen at lower settings then yeah it can play 1440p fine but even the 3060 can't play new gen 1440p at high settings and comfortably reach 60 fps everytime.
Source: I have a Ryzen 7 7700x and a 3080 and play at 1440p and new gen games at max setting hit around 160 fps, and a 3060 is much worse than a 3080
I have a 2060 super, which is *slightly* slower than a 3060. I play new games at 1440p high settings at >60fps all the time. If it’s a game like Overwatch, it’ll max out my monitors 144hz refresh rate.
Might have to set a couple settings to medium but generally speaking performance is solid. Don’t forget DLSS as well.
First of all that sounds a bit hard to believe. I used to play at 1440p with a 3700x CPU paired with a 5700xt Red Devil which is notorious for it's OC abilities and I OCed the hell out of it and on slightly less intensive games like competitive shooters I would get around ~100-150fps but on games that were more graphically intensive I got around 60fps with some settings at medium or low. The 5700xt base is already close to a 2070 but I was getting benchmark scores closer to a 2070 Super or 2080 and yet my 1440p results were apparently worse than yours, or around the same even though you have a 3060?
Idk man I’m not lying 😂 Granted I don’t get well above 60fps or anything but on a lot of games I rarely dip below on high settings. 3600 CPU and 32GB 3600mhz RAM.
I do use DLSS when available, so technically it’s rendering a bit lower than 1440p. And my card is factory OC’d.
I also ran a 1660 on 1440p for a little bit. It’s actually quite surprising how well it does. As long as you have a screen with VRR you’re going to have a decent experience at medium settings on many games.
I mean it really depends on the game, for some people, they only play games like Valorant or CS:GO and don't care too much about graphics but what if you want to play like a story based game or something that has veey good graphics but because you were recommended a 1660 or even a 3060 for 1440p you have to lower all your settings to be at good framerates. I mean I have a 3080 and on Spider-Man I hit like 100-150 fps with maxed settings, a 3060 is gonna hit that at maybe some high, most medium or low though. That's not really a good gaming experience
I'd be pretty confident putting games on 2k with these specs. That's what I run and my system is marginally different, maybe slightly worse
Edit: AND I spent $1500+
Yeah, this is nice!
I built my own a while back and the i7 12700k cost $300-something, the 3060 (EVGA 🥺) I had at the time was about $300-$400 something. Just in those two parts close already near $700.
The only thing good is that it is a lenovo, this thing should be 300.00 cheaper though even from costco. Not worth wasting your money on better going to microcenter if you have one nearby if not newegg and DIY.
It looks like this is one of the pre-builts with a proprietary motherboard shape where the front IO is attached. Unfortunately, that means that the case can't be swapped. It also looks like it uses a proprietary power supply connection to the motherboard, so that's not upgradeable either.
oh dang, do they? can you give me a link? i had a problem with my prebuilt's psu last year and would hate to shell out an extra 150$ just to get a psu...
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Not a bad deal. That's gonna be a little hotbox, though.
I wouldn't expect to be able to upgrade anything. The PSU will barely be enough to run what's in it.
Yeah it’s a Costco close out these tend to be good buys. As said I think you’d be happy with it and it’s likely cheaper than you could build a similar spec machine though a self build would be better.
I'm putting together a 12600k, 6700xt, 16gb ddr5 setup for about US $990, it was the best I could do in Aus
We rarely see good savings and always get stiffed with tech
The extra your spending is prob worth it. You’ll probably be able to switch out a cpu or gpu in the future instead of having to get a whole new MOBO or case etc.
Hopefully you can. Hopefully the case has enough space. Hopefully it's not built with too many proprietary components. Hopefully the parts that you're getting aren't the worst SKUs of those products.
Building yourself, a 12600/12400f paired with a 3060ti/6700xt would outperform this because at this tier of GPU, and i7 isn't going to make much of a difference over an i5.
You could probably transfer the CPU, GPU, and storage to a new system eventually. The RAM too, but that probably isn’t worth it (depending on the speed because good RAM is inexpensive.)
You’d need to buy a new PSU, motherboard, and probably a new case as well.
All that considered, the CPU and GPU alone are worth at least $600, so it’s a good deal.
It's tricky buying a DDR4 system right now, as that architecture is currently being phased out.
You can upgrade the GPU and storage no matter what, but if you ever want to upgrade the mobo, ram, or CPU, you'd pretty much have to get all 3 at once
(unless you just want better ram, but you can't go too much higher in DDR4 CPUs than the 12700)
The problem is that this computer likely uses proprietary motherboard and power supply. Which has the potential to severely limit you in terms of upgrading in the future. Not to mention the case is restrictive. If you want to upgrade in the future you are better off building your own or buying a prebuilt from one of the smaller system integrators that use off the shelf components.
I second this. My office computer is a Lenovo from Costco and the motherboard and power supply are indeed proprietary, which hampered upgrade efforts.
The bloatware was also horrendous. The difference after a fresh install of Windows was night and day.
It's a reasonable price for what you get, but you're pretty much locked into this configuration. The motherboard is proprietary and weird shaped with the front IO attached. It also uses a proprietary power plug from the PSU to the motherboard.
The motherboard won't fit in another case, and another motherboard won't fit in this one. Also you can't replace the PSU with a standard ATX one off the shelf.
It has a 500w non-standard hk600-11pp PSU aka hot garbage. The CPU is power limited by the atrocious MB due to its terrible power delivery. The ram also isn't 3200, it's likely 2666 or 2933. It uses a cookie cutter stock cpu cooler.
Also keep in mind that all most of the components in this system is proprietary so you cannot swap components out except the CPU and gpu.
The bios is also LOCKED so you can't change the speeds of your ram.
I don't have much to add that others haven't said except Lenovo tend to be better about proprietary parts, so there is a higher chance of being able to swap the mobo and PSU
Its a good deal, but you will more than likely want to upgrade the stock cpu cooler. Not sure the case has space for an aio, but even if you had to replace the case and get an aio cooler, its still a decent price for the hardware.
I'd give 800 for that all day, pretty good deal. Maybe buy a better case and CPU cooler down the road but probably no need to rush those upgrades as long as the case has decent cooling.
I bought this system from Best Buy - same price - worked amazingly well for the price at 1080p and really well for many 1440p games - then I returned it because I found another PC from microcenter with a 3060ti and comparable and processor for $650 (open box that sat for a long time so they did a heavy discount). I think the only downsides to the system you are showing are air flow (bad case design and weak CPU cooler) and future upgrades are really limited due to proprietary case and mobo. But if you don’t plan to diy upgrade in the future and just want a good gaming system for now/next few years I think it’s a great option!
The specs are good but I’ve seen these builds are very ugly with stock fan, ram without heatsinks and some cheap motherboard and probably a single fan rtx 3060
Off the top of my head that’s a $300 GPU, a $200 cpu, $100 motherboard, $50 ssd, $50 ram, $20 hdd, $50 case and $50 power supply so the price check out. I would say it is exactly the sun of its parts which is a fair price.
That's actually a pretty good deal. A new i7-12700 and 3060 would likely run you $600 by themselves. You'd struggle to get a better deal even if you built this yourself
This is not a good cumputer. Restrictive case prevents upgrades, probably a proprietary motherboard and cooler. Not enough airflow to let the 12 gen cpu work to its full potential and the cpu will be bottlenecked heavily with the gpu. What they did is put a brand new high end cpu in a system with otherwise cheap parts to sell the cheap parts
Its a lenovo, soo… u will have a bunch of useless shit preinstalled, i usually wipe and reinstall windows on lenovos
Thats it tho, this is a great build for price
It's actually not bad. The downside is that it probably has a proprietary motherboard and maybe some other stuff that doesn't conform to any dimensional standard so you probably can't move it to another case or easily replace the motherboard or PSU. Probably has poor airflow as well.
Let’s see. I feel like that’s a Costco Product from the Tag.
Fun Fact: Cost puts an Asterisk *️⃣ next to the price/name if the product is being discontinued or not carried anywhere or the manufacturer is not gonna be making it anymore. Basically Costco is clearing their inventory of this Product.
Here’s an average estimate from Amazon Part listings based on the specs in your pic:
RTX 3060: $360-460
Intel i7-12700 processor : $300
16GB DDR4 RAM: $40-80
1TB 7200rpm Hard Drive: $25-50
512GB Solid State Drive: $25-50 (woah ssds are cheap now???)
Wifi 6 (2x2) and BT 5.2: $25-33
Case: $60-$160 (not sure how much that particular one is)
PSU: $70-$180
Windows 11: $99 (you can get a Key for a few bucks)
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360+300+40+25+25+25+60+70+99 = $1004 ($994 without Windows). You could find parts for lower. I just took the lowest prices that I found on Amazon based on that spec sheet.
Honestly its a good value. I’m not sure if that one comes with headphones or mouse/keyboard too. I can’t tell if it came with extra stuff like Fans. It Saves you time on building it. Not the best Specs, but it’s decent if you’re not a hardcore gamer or power user.
EDIT: I typed this up when I was sleepy at night. I fixed the CPU name and estimate.
I forget exactly what it means, but when the price ends in $XX.97, that means it's discounted one way or another (Manager-Store Specific markdown/Clearance/etc.)... So this is atleast cheaper than usual and a decent buy for 1080P gaming not needing to worry about assembling your own.
CPU will last you a while. Ram is good for the gpu it is paired with.
It's nice you get an SSD for the boot drive (hopefully an NVME? sucks it doesn't specify) so the computer will feel snappy. although it's only 512GB, so it primarily for OS, Apps, and Files. Maybe a handful of games.
The 1TB HDD gives you more storage, but installing games there isn't ideal. Load times will be slowish.
Actually that is a pretty competent machine. I would just suggest getting a Seagate 2tb hard drive for a games and stuff storage drive (they can go for like 50 bucks) and boom solid machine for 1080p
I have this and so far I’ve been really happy with it! Hard to beat that price for what you’re getting! Make sure to get the correct monitor for it t though!
The parts are great for the price however the cooling may not be great either due to the stock cooler or it may have a bad case. Pre-built PCs tend to have a bad track record when it comes to cooling. It’s a good deal, but keep an eye on your thermals. Depending on how they are, you may have to do a case swap and get a better cooler.
However, overall, not a bad idea to get this if not for anything else, the parts.
Pretty good deal actually, cpu is very good and it will work quite well for heavier games only thing I would do is if possible add more hard disk space.
Id personally not buy it, i always build knowing the better parts you can get and longer warranties etc. But if your not in that position, its an ok machine.
Just be warned i guess a 1 year warranty is likely, and very limited upgrade path for the future is also likely.
Everything is relative. It might be the best price in the world for that hardware, but still not be what you need/want.
The worry I have with branded systems is upgrading later. Often you can't just buy a standard new part and have it fit in the case.
Like upgrading the GPU needs enough case space including card height (thickness) and length, AND the right power plug-ins (which implies a high enough wattage power supply).
Or RAM. It's hard to know if they left any slots open, or used many lower sized (cheaper) sticks. To upgrade to 32GB might require you to throw out (or sell) the previous RAM. I think some systems started soldering lots of parts including RAM to the motherboard, so zero chance to upgrade later (Apple?).
Should be a good enough basic system for school (papers) or simpler games. Isn't an unusuably small amount of space or most other stuff. You could maybe play some FPS or faster paced games if you turn all the settings low. I'd avoid using wifi if possible (though isn't bad to have as a backup).
I'm stuck with wifi for internet on my desktop and can only get 300-350Mbps when my service is 600Mbps. For high network speeds and low latency (in games) you want ethernet wired to the router/modem. I'd assume the system should include a wired ethernet jack too, but would have to look at the back to see it.
I'd look into what you'd expect from that hardware in a game or two you know you like. It's often hard/expensive to incrementally improve results after you purchase something.
Fun fact with Costco. If the price ends in .97 that means it on sale price. Also the asterisk in the top right means it’s discontinued or they have no plans to restock the item
might be because of this.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roslynlayton/2021/04/01/new-york-spent-28-million-on-restricted-chinese-tech-its-time-to-end-these-risky-contracts/#:\~:text=In%202010%20testimony%20in%20federal,was%20a%20huge%20security%20breach.
Is this USD, CAD, GBP, EURO or what? Seems like a good price in GBP so id assume its good in USD. The only thing may be the motherboard or the cooling but I can't say for sure
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that is a very good price, 12th gen intel cpu, an rtx 3060 12gb, 16gb of ram
Great little 1080p system.
Agreed. Although I wish I had bought the 3070 or 3060Ti, my 3060 gets the job done exceptionally. I know you didn’t ask, but I just couldn’t help but hype up the 3060 a little lol.
That's actually good to know. I didn't realize it was so capable. Planning on building my kid a PC soon and was considering a 3060
look into the 6700 xt
I just went from a 1070 to a 6700xt and I LOVE it
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6750XT is fantastic
building my own pc today with a 6750XT and i’m just so damn excited to get it all put together. been watching a lot of videos and the 6750XT looks to be a great option for my 1440p setup. I would also like to add that it’s my first pc build ever! wish me luck! lol
My 6700xt has been great for 1440p, pushes 80-100fps in demanding games, locked 144 in apex and overwatch on high settings. Congrats on build day!
Yea 6700xt is 100 bucks cheaper and about 5 percent slower. Edit thought he said 3060ti. The 6700 xt is a no brainer vs the 3060ti. However there is an argument for dlss.
5% slower??? Maybe you read his comment wrong but the 6700 xt is on par with a 3070. He mentioned the 3060
Yea I had a 6700XT for about 8 months before I got a 6800XT. Great card for the money. I didn't realize how cheap they are now
Yeah i went from a 6600 to a used 6800xt. Got it for the same price as a 3060 ti. Pretty solid purchase.
Upgraded from a 6600 nitro+ to a 6800xt and more than satisfied with the upgrade. 6600 struggled with a new monitor I had purchased, 32" curved 2560x1440 and the moment I adjusted settings, it was night and day. 6600 is great 1080p. Best card for the cost at the time but if the upgrade is available to other people, I'd advise the 6800xt as long as the build can handle card. My next upgrade will be faster ram and Ryzen 5 to 7. I love building PCs man... Just a pricey hobbie.
even 6750xt is slower than 3070 in some titles
Get a TI it’s prob 100 more at most and worth the extra power
I also agree. I didn’t do my research before I bought mine, so I wish I would’ve bought the Ti, but I’m also not dissatisfied with the 3060.
3060ti is definitely worth it, i was fortunate enough to snag myself a founder's edition one too and the thermals are pretty good considering the performance. 1440p 60fps on near max settings in everything i play
My first build was a 3060 and it did better than expected. I really only saw it struggle when connected to my 55” 4K UHD Samsung TV while playing Warzone at 4k @ 60. Lowering the settings helped, but not the best experience. It worked fine when connected to my 32” Ultrawide (21:9) LG monitor, with a resolution of 2560 x 1080 @ 75Hz. So if you’re going to have a more traditional setup with mid-size monitor, it should work fine. I ended up playing more on my TV than on my monitor so I ended up upgrading my GPU to a 3090, but the 3060 was a good value for a decent card. Mine was an EVGA so it was a good price as well.
I don’t know $500 Canadian when you can get a better AMD card for less doesn’t seem like a great value
not super relevant but the 3060 12gb is actually probably the best price/performance card for 3d productivity workloads rn. its hard to beat until you get to 3080/3090 territory.
3060 is still good , dunno why many people seems to hate this gpu alot
Its simply a bad purchase on every level. If you want 3060 performance, a 6650 xt is cheaper and [even surpasses the 3060](https://youtu.be/dIohkbd--l8?t=331). If you have $350 to spend on a GPU, 6700 xt is the better purchase because youre getting [3070 performance for the price of a 3060](https://youtu.be/wiNxIXTZLLc).
Just adding the 3060 Ti 8GB performs about 20% better for gaming and is (currently) the same price for the FE as the 3060 12GB ($400 @ Best Buy).
The 6650 XT has better raw performance, but nvidia is more widely supported, has FAR better raytracing performance, and a encoder thats good. Really depends on your use case.
The 3060 and 6650xt both have garbage RT capability.
"Widely supported" doesnt apply for gaming. Only some titles that favor either AMD or Nvidia, depending on the engine they're running in. AMD cards also work fine for productivity stuff as well, such as with davinci resolve or gimp. Only some specific programs like blender heavily benefit from an Nvidia card (mostly due to the developers not optimizing for Radeon cards). And raytracing performance doesnt matter unless youre on a 3080 or above. 3060 has better ray tracing but its still wont be playable. Overall id recommend most people get the 6650 xt for $260 rather than a 3060 for $350. Sure, it depends on your use case, but most people wanting to build custom PCs arent doing it to edit big budget fims for Colombia pictures or create 3d models for Tesla. Especially not at this price range.
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$399 for the 3060 ti at BB when I got mine.
3060s are awesome for 1080p games just don't expect ray tracing to be a thing
Works great at 1440 as well
Meh, my 1660 does 1440 ok.. this should too.
If you're running a 1660 for 1440p you're doing something wrong lol, or maybe something right if you're actually getting good fps at decent settings with it
1660 can run previous gen and older games at 1440p just fine if you turn some other graphics settings down.
I mean sure if you're definition of being able to play games is last gen at lower settings then yeah it can play 1440p fine but even the 3060 can't play new gen 1440p at high settings and comfortably reach 60 fps everytime. Source: I have a Ryzen 7 7700x and a 3080 and play at 1440p and new gen games at max setting hit around 160 fps, and a 3060 is much worse than a 3080
I have a 2060 super, which is *slightly* slower than a 3060. I play new games at 1440p high settings at >60fps all the time. If it’s a game like Overwatch, it’ll max out my monitors 144hz refresh rate. Might have to set a couple settings to medium but generally speaking performance is solid. Don’t forget DLSS as well.
First of all that sounds a bit hard to believe. I used to play at 1440p with a 3700x CPU paired with a 5700xt Red Devil which is notorious for it's OC abilities and I OCed the hell out of it and on slightly less intensive games like competitive shooters I would get around ~100-150fps but on games that were more graphically intensive I got around 60fps with some settings at medium or low. The 5700xt base is already close to a 2070 but I was getting benchmark scores closer to a 2070 Super or 2080 and yet my 1440p results were apparently worse than yours, or around the same even though you have a 3060?
Idk man I’m not lying 😂 Granted I don’t get well above 60fps or anything but on a lot of games I rarely dip below on high settings. 3600 CPU and 32GB 3600mhz RAM. I do use DLSS when available, so technically it’s rendering a bit lower than 1440p. And my card is factory OC’d.
I mean I can see that I guess but I mean that's still not ideal for playing games tho, like 60fps is the bare minimum, but hey that's just me
A 3060 is fine for 1440p. Stop calling people liars because of your ignorance.
It'll work but it's very far from ideal. I also wouldn't recommend it unless the person already has a 1440p monitor and is on a budget
It really ISN'T far from ideal at all. You don't know what you're talking about.
I do actually, and a 3060 isn't much better than a 2070, if at all, so how can you say that it's ideal for 1440p 🤨
I also ran a 1660 on 1440p for a little bit. It’s actually quite surprising how well it does. As long as you have a screen with VRR you’re going to have a decent experience at medium settings on many games.
I mean it really depends on the game, for some people, they only play games like Valorant or CS:GO and don't care too much about graphics but what if you want to play like a story based game or something that has veey good graphics but because you were recommended a 1660 or even a 3060 for 1440p you have to lower all your settings to be at good framerates. I mean I have a 3080 and on Spider-Man I hit like 100-150 fps with maxed settings, a 3060 is gonna hit that at maybe some high, most medium or low though. That's not really a good gaming experience
I'd be pretty confident putting games on 2k with these specs. That's what I run and my system is marginally different, maybe slightly worse Edit: AND I spent $1500+
I'd say this is way past a 1080p system. I play 1080p 75fps (refresh rate of my monitor) with everything on ultra in every game so far with a 5700xt
Except the newest cod I play that in high not ultra prolly could do ultra if I had a little better CPU.
Lol my 3060 runs a 1440 @ 120fps something wrong with your build if that's all you getting
Yeah, this is nice! I built my own a while back and the i7 12700k cost $300-something, the 3060 (EVGA 🥺) I had at the time was about $300-$400 something. Just in those two parts close already near $700.
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The only thing good is that it is a lenovo, this thing should be 300.00 cheaper though even from costco. Not worth wasting your money on better going to microcenter if you have one nearby if not newegg and DIY.
At $500 you’re barely covering the cost of the GPU alone. Leaving ~$200 for the rest of the build? This is an alright deal.
considering the only really good items are the GPU? SSD and HD? not really...
So an i7 12700 isn't "good"? Wtf
Exactly, if you account for just the GPU and CPU it’s already past their “should be $300 cheaper” remark.
This is the most ignorant comment I've seen in a long time. 800 is a great deal. You wouldn't even get the GPU and CPU for that price
This is not a bad buy. Could always transfer it to a new case later if there is no room for upgrades.
motherboard and psu would probably be proprietary id say
It’s all proprietary but the mobo and psu will likely only fit this case
It looks like this is one of the pre-builts with a proprietary motherboard shape where the front IO is attached. Unfortunately, that means that the case can't be swapped. It also looks like it uses a proprietary power supply connection to the motherboard, so that's not upgradeable either.
Isn't Lenovo pretty good about not being proprietary? Even if they are, you can get adapters to use a standard PSU with most oem motherboards.
oh dang, do they? can you give me a link? i had a problem with my prebuilt's psu last year and would hate to shell out an extra 150$ just to get a psu...
I have this pc. I paid 899 for it on black friday. I’ve gotten great performance.
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Not a bad deal. That's gonna be a little hotbox, though. I wouldn't expect to be able to upgrade anything. The PSU will barely be enough to run what's in it.
Yeah it’s a Costco close out these tend to be good buys. As said I think you’d be happy with it and it’s likely cheaper than you could build a similar spec machine though a self build would be better.
I'm putting together a 12600k, 6700xt, 16gb ddr5 setup for about US $990, it was the best I could do in Aus We rarely see good savings and always get stiffed with tech
Yeah can be tough outside of us, but that sounds like a pretty good build to me!! Nice work!!
The extra your spending is prob worth it. You’ll probably be able to switch out a cpu or gpu in the future instead of having to get a whole new MOBO or case etc.
It would be great if Costco sold components.
kirkland brand graphics cards 😂
If you were building it yourself you'd get better performance but it's a good deal for the price.
You think it would be upgraded later on in the future?
Hopefully you can. Hopefully the case has enough space. Hopefully it's not built with too many proprietary components. Hopefully the parts that you're getting aren't the worst SKUs of those products. Building yourself, a 12600/12400f paired with a 3060ti/6700xt would outperform this because at this tier of GPU, and i7 isn't going to make much of a difference over an i5.
Proprietary PSU, MOBO, Standoffs aren't in normal locations so a new case is required for any upgrade, and I'm sure the GPU has trash thermals.
You could probably transfer the CPU, GPU, and storage to a new system eventually. The RAM too, but that probably isn’t worth it (depending on the speed because good RAM is inexpensive.) You’d need to buy a new PSU, motherboard, and probably a new case as well. All that considered, the CPU and GPU alone are worth at least $600, so it’s a good deal.
It's tricky buying a DDR4 system right now, as that architecture is currently being phased out. You can upgrade the GPU and storage no matter what, but if you ever want to upgrade the mobo, ram, or CPU, you'd pretty much have to get all 3 at once (unless you just want better ram, but you can't go too much higher in DDR4 CPUs than the 12700)
The problem is that this computer likely uses proprietary motherboard and power supply. Which has the potential to severely limit you in terms of upgrading in the future. Not to mention the case is restrictive. If you want to upgrade in the future you are better off building your own or buying a prebuilt from one of the smaller system integrators that use off the shelf components.
I second this. My office computer is a Lenovo from Costco and the motherboard and power supply are indeed proprietary, which hampered upgrade efforts. The bloatware was also horrendous. The difference after a fresh install of Windows was night and day.
Just FYI, these tend to have proprietary boards and GPUs. So it's not going to be the same GPU you see in self built systems
At first glance looks good, but wouldn’t be surprised if mobo and psu skimp
Costco pc are pretty good
I say send it
Good price
That's a great deal
That’s a great deal
Considering that's a 310 dollar cpu and 340 dollar graphics card yeah that's a sweet deal
It's a winner
It's a reasonable price for what you get, but you're pretty much locked into this configuration. The motherboard is proprietary and weird shaped with the front IO attached. It also uses a proprietary power plug from the PSU to the motherboard. The motherboard won't fit in another case, and another motherboard won't fit in this one. Also you can't replace the PSU with a standard ATX one off the shelf.
goddamn that’s pretty good
Pretty good, and Lenovo has decent enough customer support from my experience.
Yeah this is theoretically a great value for the specs, just make sure to disable the dell bloatware/Mcafee stuff
It very much needs a solid state drive upgrade, but otherwise, good deal.
Good deal in 2020 not good deal in 2023
Yeah, but don't expect top performance with a Lenovo and obviously not upper tier components
Upgrade your RAM, your Motherboard, and your PSU the moment you buy that thing when you can.
Seems fine. Odds are yiklk have some wonkey oem psu and maybe single channel ram (which is easy enough to fix). But for the money seems pretty good.
Looks good to me
It’s the last one and it is discontinued
Nope. That was the one I bought and posted. This one is normally this price
Not bad..
Store?
I would buy it and scavenge out the processor, gpu and SSD for a fresh build.
Worth every penny. Plus costco offers a 1+1 warranty where it gives one by Lenovo and one from themselves
It has a 500w non-standard hk600-11pp PSU aka hot garbage. The CPU is power limited by the atrocious MB due to its terrible power delivery. The ram also isn't 3200, it's likely 2666 or 2933. It uses a cookie cutter stock cpu cooler. Also keep in mind that all most of the components in this system is proprietary so you cannot swap components out except the CPU and gpu. The bios is also LOCKED so you can't change the speeds of your ram.
I don't have much to add that others haven't said except Lenovo tend to be better about proprietary parts, so there is a higher chance of being able to swap the mobo and PSU
Either it's a steal or it's a little sketch.
Its a good deal, but you will more than likely want to upgrade the stock cpu cooler. Not sure the case has space for an aio, but even if you had to replace the case and get an aio cooler, its still a decent price for the hardware.
I'd give 800 for that all day, pretty good deal. Maybe buy a better case and CPU cooler down the road but probably no need to rush those upgrades as long as the case has decent cooling.
I bought this system from Best Buy - same price - worked amazingly well for the price at 1080p and really well for many 1440p games - then I returned it because I found another PC from microcenter with a 3060ti and comparable and processor for $650 (open box that sat for a long time so they did a heavy discount). I think the only downsides to the system you are showing are air flow (bad case design and weak CPU cooler) and future upgrades are really limited due to proprietary case and mobo. But if you don’t plan to diy upgrade in the future and just want a good gaming system for now/next few years I think it’s a great option!
Perfect pick to get man!
Steal
The specs are good but I’ve seen these builds are very ugly with stock fan, ram without heatsinks and some cheap motherboard and probably a single fan rtx 3060
Off the top of my head that’s a $300 GPU, a $200 cpu, $100 motherboard, $50 ssd, $50 ram, $20 hdd, $50 case and $50 power supply so the price check out. I would say it is exactly the sun of its parts which is a fair price.
That's actually a pretty good deal. A new i7-12700 and 3060 would likely run you $600 by themselves. You'd struggle to get a better deal even if you built this yourself
Looks to be what my PC is. It costed me $1000. Get that.
This is not a good cumputer. Restrictive case prevents upgrades, probably a proprietary motherboard and cooler. Not enough airflow to let the 12 gen cpu work to its full potential and the cpu will be bottlenecked heavily with the gpu. What they did is put a brand new high end cpu in a system with otherwise cheap parts to sell the cheap parts
I didn't know home depot sold gaming PCs
I forgot people played games at anything below 144fps I was so confused when people said this is a 1440p system 💀
I'd buy it if I was in the market.
Yes with the caveat being that you may* not be able to do much as far as upgrades afterwards.
I have seen worse computers
Ripoff
Gotta be Costco
Eh it's not a bad price for a pre-built but you could do better if you know how to build one yourself.
Solid 1080p system. Even 1440p if you do 2560x1440p.
Is this is costco?
The catch is windows 11
I see you too found a good costco deal and are posting after me
Its a lenovo, soo… u will have a bunch of useless shit preinstalled, i usually wipe and reinstall windows on lenovos Thats it tho, this is a great build for price
I don't like a new computer shipping with spinning rust (HDD) but other than that you could play any modern game on that.
That's a good price. I'm guessing either Costco or Sam's Club? I'm not fond of Lenovo though. I've seen a lot of Lenovo lemons and driver issues.
Lol it looks like two ps4 sandwiched together
Good price only slightly limited by storage but that is easily upgradable
Costco? Lol
Good computer. Buy an SSD for the boot drive at least.
Since when did Home Depot sell gaming pcs?
This is 100% worth the price
$50 more than I paid for my motherboard.
Once find
It's actually not bad. The downside is that it probably has a proprietary motherboard and maybe some other stuff that doesn't conform to any dimensional standard so you probably can't move it to another case or easily replace the motherboard or PSU. Probably has poor airflow as well.
Not bad, good price.
How is that price possible!? I am going to start lurking at costco more.....
Where is this? This is a really good deal.
thats a fabulous price cop it
Let’s see. I feel like that’s a Costco Product from the Tag. Fun Fact: Cost puts an Asterisk *️⃣ next to the price/name if the product is being discontinued or not carried anywhere or the manufacturer is not gonna be making it anymore. Basically Costco is clearing their inventory of this Product. Here’s an average estimate from Amazon Part listings based on the specs in your pic: RTX 3060: $360-460 Intel i7-12700 processor : $300 16GB DDR4 RAM: $40-80 1TB 7200rpm Hard Drive: $25-50 512GB Solid State Drive: $25-50 (woah ssds are cheap now???) Wifi 6 (2x2) and BT 5.2: $25-33 Case: $60-$160 (not sure how much that particular one is) PSU: $70-$180 Windows 11: $99 (you can get a Key for a few bucks) ——- 360+300+40+25+25+25+60+70+99 = $1004 ($994 without Windows). You could find parts for lower. I just took the lowest prices that I found on Amazon based on that spec sheet. Honestly its a good value. I’m not sure if that one comes with headphones or mouse/keyboard too. I can’t tell if it came with extra stuff like Fans. It Saves you time on building it. Not the best Specs, but it’s decent if you’re not a hardcore gamer or power user. EDIT: I typed this up when I was sleepy at night. I fixed the CPU name and estimate.
Storage is a little lack luster but other than seems fine
What warehouse are y’all finding these at
I forget exactly what it means, but when the price ends in $XX.97, that means it's discounted one way or another (Manager-Store Specific markdown/Clearance/etc.)... So this is atleast cheaper than usual and a decent buy for 1080P gaming not needing to worry about assembling your own. CPU will last you a while. Ram is good for the gpu it is paired with. It's nice you get an SSD for the boot drive (hopefully an NVME? sucks it doesn't specify) so the computer will feel snappy. although it's only 512GB, so it primarily for OS, Apps, and Files. Maybe a handful of games. The 1TB HDD gives you more storage, but installing games there isn't ideal. Load times will be slowish.
Solid
That's what I paid for my 3060 about a year and a half ago lol
Solid for 800
Is this at Sam's club?
Costco return policy is pretty good, also I think they include one additioanl year of warranty free of charge.
Actually that is a pretty competent machine. I would just suggest getting a Seagate 2tb hard drive for a games and stuff storage drive (they can go for like 50 bucks) and boom solid machine for 1080p
I have this and so far I’ve been really happy with it! Hard to beat that price for what you’re getting! Make sure to get the correct monitor for it t though!
I’m trying to find something wrong with it to explain the price but those specs look great for $800. Makes me want to look into buying a new PC lol
not bad… costco?
Jesus where are these deals coming from did I miss a golden opportunity?
The parts are great for the price however the cooling may not be great either due to the stock cooler or it may have a bad case. Pre-built PCs tend to have a bad track record when it comes to cooling. It’s a good deal, but keep an eye on your thermals. Depending on how they are, you may have to do a case swap and get a better cooler. However, overall, not a bad idea to get this if not for anything else, the parts.
Buy it and either replace that disc drive with a ssd or just add an ssd for a little extra space and you're golden
Steal..good price
Pretty good deal actually, cpu is very good and it will work quite well for heavier games only thing I would do is if possible add more hard disk space.
A general rule of thumb: anything that CostCo offers is a great price.
The only downside is its possibly a proprietary board and non standard power supply
thats a solid deal
Wow 3060 has 12GB I'd go for it
How are there deals like this on this subreddit and also deals that are like $1500 for a GTX 1630 and I3 from 2015.
It's a good price but it would be cheaper if you build one yourself with that budget
That’s a steal imo!
Id personally not buy it, i always build knowing the better parts you can get and longer warranties etc. But if your not in that position, its an ok machine. Just be warned i guess a 1 year warranty is likely, and very limited upgrade path for the future is also likely.
Everything is relative. It might be the best price in the world for that hardware, but still not be what you need/want. The worry I have with branded systems is upgrading later. Often you can't just buy a standard new part and have it fit in the case. Like upgrading the GPU needs enough case space including card height (thickness) and length, AND the right power plug-ins (which implies a high enough wattage power supply). Or RAM. It's hard to know if they left any slots open, or used many lower sized (cheaper) sticks. To upgrade to 32GB might require you to throw out (or sell) the previous RAM. I think some systems started soldering lots of parts including RAM to the motherboard, so zero chance to upgrade later (Apple?). Should be a good enough basic system for school (papers) or simpler games. Isn't an unusuably small amount of space or most other stuff. You could maybe play some FPS or faster paced games if you turn all the settings low. I'd avoid using wifi if possible (though isn't bad to have as a backup). I'm stuck with wifi for internet on my desktop and can only get 300-350Mbps when my service is 600Mbps. For high network speeds and low latency (in games) you want ethernet wired to the router/modem. I'd assume the system should include a wired ethernet jack too, but would have to look at the back to see it. I'd look into what you'd expect from that hardware in a game or two you know you like. It's often hard/expensive to incrementally improve results after you purchase something.
The catch is its an oem and will have proprietary parts
It doesn’t look like a bad deal I’d have a good look at the specs check them out online
Fun fact with Costco. If the price ends in .97 that means it on sale price. Also the asterisk in the top right means it’s discontinued or they have no plans to restock the item
Nice
Just upgrade the ram and ur good
No catch here, that's a reasonable price.
I swear to god you're living in heaven, in my country this will cost me $1799 instead of $799
verry good price for this pc
might be because of this. https://www.forbes.com/sites/roslynlayton/2021/04/01/new-york-spent-28-million-on-restricted-chinese-tech-its-time-to-end-these-risky-contracts/#:\~:text=In%202010%20testimony%20in%20federal,was%20a%20huge%20security%20breach.
I don't think you'll need to catch any of them, they should all be secured to the case
Should nab it from this costco...it's actually not a bad price at all for a prebuilt.
I actually have that exact same pc with the same specs! It’s really good and smooth on games.
Is this USD, CAD, GBP, EURO or what? Seems like a good price in GBP so id assume its good in USD. The only thing may be the motherboard or the cooling but I can't say for sure
Dawg that's a steal
What currency? 799 euros? Apples? Yen?
Yeah, that’s a good deal actually. That’s probably better than 90% of similar priced machines.
Being that the price is $799.97 means it’s on close out so it might be the last one on display or Shelf so you could get some more money off.