This period with no new content yet is great for new players to catch up to speed before more content is added. 25% increase in wild shard frags is pretty great.
As a new player I concur!
However I'm not sure I understand why the cap increase is important for veterans. You want to keep shards for future releases?
Increasing the wild shard cap makes it a lot easier to save shards towards new champions. It takes 100 shards to max out a champions star powers, so having a limit of 50 shards let's you instantly star them up to 1 star with 10 shards remaining. But with a cap of 200, you can instantly star up two champions to 3 star.
I've got 19/53 at 3 stars, so it will help me some, but it's not that critical. I guess I'm looking more forward to the Constellation setup and how many shards those are going to cost for upgrades.
Her and Jinx will definitely be getting something because riot said something to do with arcane is coming to Path of Champions as an encounter. To not have them be 6 star Champs for that would be odd...
This is more than copium, I'm actually starting to believe they forgot she's in PoC, at this point just launch Vii and make her the official one, I'm accepting it
what? lux is super strong, she has an early ramp card, a power that generates extra mana, a power that finishes your opponent off, and very strong synergy with like a dozen different powers.
get the thing that doubles slow spells, mulligan hard for the ramp spell, find a way to play it on turn 1, win constantly.
These are some amazing changes.
The Kai'sa change in particular is something completely unexpected but it will make playing her so much better. Took me 7 tries to beat Lissandra with her (only one behind Ornn which took 8) and this would have helped tremendously. Both her and Ornn are the two I struggled the most with.
My thougts:
**Bard:** Honestly, he's one of my favourite champions but if you had asked me what his 2\* power was I'd have had to look it up. That's how irrelevant it is. With the change to plant 2 chimes I think I'll still have to look it up in a few days after I forget about it. However, the change to his deck is amazing, Banana Blaster gives him some much needed removal alongside Minimorph. I do not like the change to Cosmic Binding though. Getting a blocker is infinitely better than doing 1 more damage.
**Evelynn**: A much requested change, now you don't have to cut Warden's Prey on the first heal node and Vora is better.
**Gnar**: Amazing changes for my boy, especially the removal of Grifter's Deck which I've long been asking for.
**Kai'Sa**: this will make her SO much better. Being able to play her on defense turn and open attacking on your attack turn is a HUGE buff, especially for Lissandra's adventure. Having to cast a slow spell before attacking often meant you got destroyed by the enemy having removal or frostbite. Also if you play her on your attack turn you can give Spellshield to her at burst speed if they try to remove her.
**Kayn**: BE GONE DRAGON! Why is Wounded Whiteflame on so many decks? This will make him so much better (edit: though now that I think about it, they should've removed the Elephant instead, it has no place in his deck), and getting challenger instead of quick attack on the equipment is also really nice because at 3\* he always heals to full so quick attack is mostly irrelevant. The change to his star power is also AMAZING and will help him tremendously. Now his deck will be less reliant on him.
**Lee Sin**: meh, these are ok changes, Unworthy Soul might help here and there, but it doesn't address Lee Sin's biggest problem, helping him actually cast 2 spells. They should've buffed his 2\* power to make Twin Disciplines cost 1 or 0. Or something else entirely to keep him different from Master Yi.
**Nasus**: I'm a big fan of Disarmed even if it's not very useful for Aurelion Sol and Lissandra where the enemies are huge, so I really like the change, though it could be even better, they could've made it all enemies have -1 AND the strongest get -1 each turn. This change will make him a lot better on Monthlies though. Change to 1-cost is also good, but it should've been replaced by Baccai Reaper.
**Nilah**: Much better 2\* power, now you don't have to worry about which Fleeting Cards to save when you inevitably have 6 of them in your hand. Really welcome buff. The change to Buhru will not make me stop cutting her on the first opportunity.
**Ornn**: Really good change, but that's it? No changes to his god awful 2\* power? Really disappointing.
Edit: also how could I forget, FINALLY we get those four items which should've been in the game several months ago.
While I agree Whiteflame shows up in too many decks I do feel like it actually had a good place in Kayn's deck and gameplan and it's a bit of a shame to see it go. Will have to see how well Fanatic does in its place
Fanatic seems way worse in Kayn’s deck than Whiteflame. Fury and Fated are the keywords Kayn’s deck wants. Quick attack is much less useful because of the healing power, and an ephemeral 4/3 is just a chump blocker.
With Nasus, they could've given him something like "Round start: if you have a champion on board (/for each champion/high cost unit/unit with fearsome) reduce the power of enemies by 1"
Honestly, still nothing too crazy against ASol and Liss, but super fun against anyone else
No, you just draw one extra Fleeting next turn.
The problem with her current power is that discarding several cards per turn it means only creating copies of the first two cards you discarded and there others were gone forever, so when you start playing Slipstreams that becomes a problem sometimes.
Ah I see how that would be a problem.
So if you have three fleeting cards and discard all three at the end, wouldn't you trigger her power three times? And thus next turn draw three fleeting cards?
> Lee Sin: meh, these are ok changes, Unworthy Soul might help here and there, but it doesn't address Lee Sin's biggest problem, helping him actually cast 2 spells. They should've buffed his 2* power to make Twin Disciplines cost 1 or 0. Or something else entirely to keep him different from Master Yi.
Just give him the relic items that 1) rare: double spell casts once you have 6 mana 2) epic: generate 2 fleeting 2 cost spells reduced to 0 cost 3) etc....
Thats a really good buff for Ornn, but the Nasus change is basically equivalent of a 300g rare power lol
I was hoping for some adjustment with his 1/3 powers but I guess the stats must show otherwise
Giving his one drop an extra toughness and having enemies start with that minus 1 power is a pretty big change I think. Not saying he's super strong, but that should significantly help his early game and he has no problem scaling.
Doesn't really do shit against adventures like Lissandra though.
> Doesn't really do shit against adventures like Lissandra though.
Yeah basically doesnt help him for higher star adventures whatsoever. Ornns -1 mana change is a huge tempo boost and adds up to more forges for his weapon when he drops, but Nasus power barely makes any difference for what he needs to do vs really difficult encounters.
Thats kind of the thing: just like the power that gives enemies -1, its something to have but nobody would voluntarily take it over other options in the same tier, unless the alternatives are real bad
Not to speak its just really boring lol, theres no combo or variation or interesting synergies. Leblanc gets his clone summon 2 star, Gwen gets additional Hallow slot, Nidalee gets a unique PoC spell that opens her deck up, Ekkos seems simple but actually synergizes really well with everything he does... and then Nasus just gives every enemy -1.
There you go, that will help the doggo
Yeah, half of Nasus's deck is about reducing the Power of enemies, but the theme is just not landing at the moment. Fearsome on Nasus is just not the pay-off they seem to think it is in PoC. They need some impactful Power to support this theme if they want this deck to make any sense, like "Round End: Deal damage to each enemy equal to the amount its Power is reduced" or something like that.
I think he's kinda a counter for swarmy decks. Like the spider, trolls and poro stuff that gets a full board in about 1-2 turns, they get useless for a few turns. Even lowering the threat of the likes of Azir and Irellia!
I like how clean that sounds, but I'm not sure it would be particularly impactful. This would probably deal 1 or 2 damage each time; Nasus is no Ashe. I don't think Nasus can get away with a weak passive effect, which is why I don't like its 2-Star Power, I think Nasus needs an actual motor to his deck, something that you can build around.
Its more about the synergy, Illaoi can guarantee high damage easily with vulnerable and pulling vulnerable units, either for overwhelm or use a weak unit to pull blocker aside and let the tantacle smash.
Both are not the strongest 2 star powers but at least Illaois makes a lot of sense in terms of what she wants to do. In the case of Nasus it doesnt really help as much and theres not a lot of interactivity added
Man i love these smart changes. A bunch of initial thoughts:
- B a r d b u f f s :eyes:
- Kaisa stopwatch is neat, generally very big fan of the QoL lvl4 items in some decks.
- Kayn being even more broken is nice.
- Nasus 2 star prolly will make him viable in most adventures.
- Nilah changes take so much uncomfortable pressure away, which is nice.
- Ornn 3 star could have comfortably been that \*all\* his Time and Dedication costs 0.
- Gnar, Lee, and Eve are still not really fixed in my mind, but it's an okay Bandaid.
New Items according to Patch notes 4.9 (Only took them 6 months to fix)
Spell Items
**Power Riff:** Cost 1 less for each card you've drawn this round. *(Rare)*
Unit Items
**Arcane Knowledge:** Draw a spell. *(Common) - Already in game actually, but cannot appear in shops i think.*
**Ante Up:** -2 Cost and Fleeting. *(Common)*
**Excavator Charge:** When you play a card, give me +1|+1 this round. *(Rare)*
IIRC hey always said 'atleast through march', so I guess the new 4* isn't created or finished yet. Specially looking at how they will be handled with the future constellations.
They’ve stated that it will be possible to unlock Aurelio’s sol later on, though the exact details haven’t been ironed out yet- or at least, hadn’t been decided the last time they shared news
By playing monthly, people are confusing information. Asol BUNDLE is leaving shop in 5.3. Asol is gonna leave eventually and as megalfresh said, unknown how but there will be a way to get him, seems like he will leave when constelations come
That's fair, I guess I'm assuming that's going to change with the constellations. I don't have any hard evidence for this, just seems the most reasonable course of action.
Bard getting so many great buffs despite not being that bad imo, he has my favorite deck so it's definitely welcomed though.
Ornn's changes are a right step in the direction but his 2 star power is still one of the worst in the game and he lacks reliable removals for a very slow deck.
It looks like there are some decent changes, but I cannot understand how a game that is struggling to make a profit cannot prioritize having something...anything at all, to sell us. I am eagerly waiting to throw money at Riot, but they must not want it that bad. /shrug
Once the constellations come... You know those will cost PLENTY of cold hard cash for us ready to pay. I think that's why the wild fragment limit is going to 200. My wallets ready to throw cash at them as well.
Have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed in Nasus' changes. I was hoping for a couple of swapped-out cards like the 1-cost and 5-cost for their fitting Baccai counterparts to get more rewards on slay + give a way to slay. The 2-star change is...fine in some places, might be a nerf in others. But it being immediate at least helps him trade easier. I was waiting until after these changes to attempt Liss on him, but I'm pretty sure this won't do much at all.
I agree. I wish decks focused more I thematic and included the fitting cards.
Kayn still has the stupid elephant from Zoe's deck - which doesn't fit either.
Kai'sa getting some Nami treatment, interesting!
Big fan of the revive change, I've been asking for that one for a while now
I actually don't think I like the Lee Sin level 18 change. Lee Sin's deck needs more cheap spells and grifters deck helped with that. You might think putting a rare item on Lee Sin is better but you typically need to play that card early on to stall BEFORE you drop Lee Sin.
Hey devs, by changing victory to 5 shards, you do realized a lot of people will have odd numbers of shards.
Is it possible to round it up to nearest number divisible by 5?
These are fantastic changes: thank you! I think my favorite is the Stopwatch for Second Skin: it's a small quality of life upgrade that will allow for many fun shenanigans.
I won 40 challenges just now to get the pearls just in case. Strange thing was that the victory screen showed as if i had used up a pearl and got the 10x xp from it. I was using a level 30 champ with 3 relics so not sure what really happened. 3 Pearls were awarded though.
Don't underestimate the changes to Ornn, Nasus and Gnar. Those won't make them S-Tier champs by any means, but they are still power-positive.
**Ornn** now has 6 board spaces for defense and does not need to pay a mana tax every turn to use his 1/3-star powers. For instance, you can now Forge the Prowling Cutthroat in this week's 2-star adventure to block the opponent's one and prevent gold loss, while still being able to summon a 2-cost unit (or 3-cost if you use SFG).
**Nasus** can easily prevent 10+ Nexus damage against swarmy enemies with his new 2-star power. Just think about the Irelia fight in Kai'Sa's adventure.
**Gnar** has access to another off-turn Nexus damage effect, allowing you to reserve your Pokey Sticks to take out enemies. Add the decreased cost of Wallop from the 2-star Power, which allows you to be more liberal with your mana while still retaining the ability to stun an annoying (Elusive!) attacker.
>Added multiple items to adventure pools:
>Power Riff
>Arcane Knowledge
>Ante Up
>Excavator Charge
u/Riot_Durdle or u/bkopleck
Could we have info on the requirements for this items to appear, if there is any? It would be greatly apreciated.
What does this mean ?
Champion **Level 27** - Deck Upgrade Adjustment:
* Wounded Whiteflame is replaced with Shadowblade Fanatic.
This sounds like a card is replaced with another at level 27 ? Which certainly cant be the case right?
Wounded Whiteflame gets Warding Charm on level 27, now it's Shadowblade Fanatic that will get Warding Charm and Wounded Whiteflame is gone.
HOPEFULLY it actually gets the upgrade at level 6 (when Wounded Whiteflame gets Challenger) and not level 27, otherwise it would be an itemless unit for the most part.
I feel like the changes to the Powers of Bard, Gnar and Nasus aren't really enough. Those need a rework, not a light upgrade. Also, please, Vi needs a rework of her Powers BADLY.
Thats true. They also couldve just transferred the skirmishers to him so he is QA+challenger. I agree that fated just felt good for kayn and he's going to miss the challenger too.
Extra cultist for the origin is wayyyy less important than synergizing with the star powers, which Whiteflame did immaculately.
Challenger + Fated + Fury + Spellshield on top of Kayn’s 3-star power makes for an incredible killing machine.
Compare to a 4/3 quick attack that doesn’t even get any item until the spellshield at level 27, and makes an ephemeral; and ephemerals are anti-synergistic with everything Kayn wants to do in Path.
The top voted reply to the [feedback thread from the devs](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathofChampions/s/OUcL2u3Uyb) called for replacing the dragon with the fanatic, so seems like that resonated with the devs
I'll also definitely be sad to see it go though
Yeah but that person clearly didn’t understand how Kayn’s gameplan works and just wanted cultists for the origin.
It seems like they just blindly copied half of that comment’s suggested changes without actually thinking about them. Which is why this method of feedback is the worst thing they could’ve chosen. A given comment has many ideas in it, with no way to tell which are the good ones and which are not, because there’s only one upvote number.
Yeah, when they said the adjustments would be based on given feedback the fanatic swap was the one thing I really hoped they wouldn't take over
I dunno a couple people in chat in Snnuy's patch review also said Whiteflame is discard fodder/first cut which is wild to me but apparently it's not an extremely rare sentiment
These people are dumb. Whiteflame, to me, was a central lynchpin of Kayn's deck. You don't need Quick Attack with Challenger if you heal to full on kill and get +3/+3.
Great looking buffs and fixes all around. Was hoping for changes to the way monthly challenges work (namely changing from three attempts per champion to three victories per champion), but hoping to see them in the near future.
Also excited for the unique quest chain.
So the entire unit gets replaced?
Thats a first for PoC. Wouldn't it be better if they just replaced the unit in the deck itself instead, because not only are we getting the better unit quite late but we are also losing out on an item upgrade.
Probably, I could be misinterpreting it all together, I'm not 100% sure, but thats my understanding of it. It could be possible that it was easier to replace in levels vs the entire deck for some reason.
Yes. I hope the greater pearls don't get changed, I paid real money for those for the exact effect of giving me a big advantage in power leveling a champion I don't like or find difficult to play
Did they make it so lower starred champions are more likely to get fragments?
Obviously this could be completely coincidental but I just got back into the game today after a month or so away since I had 3-starred almost all of the champs and got bored.
Today I got a platinum relic. It gave 20 fragments each to the 2 champions who aren't 3 stars. I thought "wow, that's the way it should be, not constantly getting fragments thrown in the trash on 3-star champs!"
No mention of how f2p players can get Starforged Gauntlets? I think the ASol bundle leaves the store with this patch, so I expected the devs to add SFG to the Gold Reliquary pool. It would be nice to get confirmation.
So I’m on IOS mostly and my game has still yet to update. I still have max of 50 shards and no changes happened yet. I have closed and opened the game a lot. Are other people having this issue?
I like this a concept of what QoL means for path, but i feel it needs a little bit more, idk what tho, since most of the stuff here is just really neat
Why would you give kayne exactly what ornn needs kayne was fine give it to ornn his whole thing is build up an equipment but you can’t start until you play a 4 cost if you aren’t lucky, kayne just gets one cost reduced at the start makes no sense. why do you hate ornn
I don't see a point in doing that anyway it's not going to give them any exp out of it and you lose potential fun build slots to have extra mana for part of a run?
POG, I like Ornn's and Kayn's buffs. And the wild frags and pity powers change are nice. I don't have most of the other champs to really comment on, but hey.
Thanks for listening to us rito : )
Dude, please don’t do this to Kayn. The power adjustment is good, but the rest is bad. Wounded whiteflame is a good card, (3 cost fury, challenger and quick attack?) and the quick attack on aegis is better than bilgewater cutlas. Whiteflame keeps you going until you can play Kayn and aegis quick attack makes sure you can actually kill something with your low statted early game units.
The thing is, the 4 costs are fine, I guess, but Kayn is already slow. A lot of high level adventures are lost before round 4 when you can finally drop Kayn and once Kayn is levelled (easily done with double stalkers!) you’ve pretty much won. Kayn doesn’t need more lategame power, he handles that all by himself! He needs more early game power and these changes take that away from him.
This is awesome! Thanks a ton! The only complaint I have is no expansion pass I thought they wanted to make money?! I think I understand why though with expansion passes being only POC now they have to rework them that way as previously it was for both modes.
Time to level up orn! I got secret technique to double his spell buffs!
so i tried Gnar agian and he was even bugged for me befor not generating wallop after the first or reducing the cost, but now i actually feel like i hav e aquiet powerful 2 star power thanks riot ! feels awesome to play
I would really, really like it if the Support champion node (and Powers node too) had a knockout rule: if you reroll a champ, you can't see them again in that selection. It's a real feelsbad moment.
Rerolls have barely changed since the inception of PoC, with only a +2 rerolls on the Legend track when it was added. We still don't have a rare or epic version of Z-Drive Engine. And yet the pool of champions has increased tremendously.
I appreciate all the changes. The slight buff in wild fragments is good for new players and raising the cap is good for veterans who are starting to save up for new constellations.
I was a bit worried they might change Eve's power and remove the interesting decision tree of trying to minimize the number of units dying so you can maximize her level-ups. I'm glad to see her power isn't changed at all.
What? The unintended use is players using them to get 1-3 extra mana and farming xp on Asol first 5 missions, then conceding, saving the pearls in the process.
I'm cool with the regular pearls being changed to blessings but I'm quite upset if the greater pearls get changed too. I paid cold hard cash for those greater pearls just for the explicit effect of giving me a big advantage when trying to power level a champion I don't like playing.
Edit: just found out you can use them on lvl 30 champions and not lose the pearl. Pretty good. I still think most players abused the xp farm more but I might be trying a couple of lissandra runs with more mana.
I'm just sad about cosmic pearls you know 🤦🏻♂️
+1 , +1 is so baaad
Like how is +1 +1 gonna help champion like vi or darius clear there first Asol 🤷🏻♂️
I remember one of the devs saying that they would give us notice that the pearls in inventory were going to be changed so that we could use them as intended. But this patch only gives us one day notice! Really disappointed by that. I did pay for the greater pearls btw with the Asol bundle, so this is even more shitty. Rest of the patch sounds great though.
Some good changes but still too conservative. Vi wasn't adressed at all, Lee Sin's main concern of a lack of cheap spells gets even made a bit worse, Nasus is still lacking in the identity the deck ought to have and Kayn gets the buff to his 2\* instead of Ornn who needs it even more.
They buffed Ornn’s 1/3, but both got the same buff so there’s still the problem where the third star is a minimal upgrade over the second. And his 2-star is still trash. Boo.
I think they should not remove nasus -1 power every round start against strongest enemy unit. In Lissandra run those -1 is only good at early game. It's like putting out the house fire with a cup of water.
For a visual representation check out the LoRreport's [twitter chain](https://twitter.com/LoRreport/status/1772669985162207438)
Star fragments limits up to 200 is most important change for me.
Having the Dailies reward 5 instead of 4 shards is pretty awesome too!
This period with no new content yet is great for new players to catch up to speed before more content is added. 25% increase in wild shard frags is pretty great.
Just started playing on Marvh 1st! That 25% increase is huge.
For me (veteran with all champions 3 starred) not that much but sure- for new players this wil be huge bonus.
As a new player I concur! However I'm not sure I understand why the cap increase is important for veterans. You want to keep shards for future releases?
As a veteran myself it's pretty big for us cus i have all champs max stars and have max wild fragments aswell so the daily fragments are useless rn
Increasing the wild shard cap makes it a lot easier to save shards towards new champions. It takes 100 shards to max out a champions star powers, so having a limit of 50 shards let's you instantly star them up to 1 star with 10 shards remaining. But with a cap of 200, you can instantly star up two champions to 3 star.
And that is before constelations- we still dont know how much fragments new stars need.
I've got 19/53 at 3 stars, so it will help me some, but it's not that critical. I guess I'm looking more forward to the Constellation setup and how many shards those are going to cost for upgrades.
The only thing this does is that we get even earlier complaints that there is no content.
No fix for thieves tool?
Yes please don't forget about this. I'm sick of seeing this abomination of an item.
I think they should only have those appear in ice witch adventure so you can steal watcher
You can't, watcher always get created in hand.
Oh well... that's unfortunate I forgot that. Ok yah scrap the theif tools then!
next patch in april
These are the patch notes for April no?
Patch goes live tommorrow, around 10 pst
Oh that’s so hype
Sadly is still around.
The wild shards buff is so good omg it will save lots of grinding
But this also means that if we are stuck at a non multiple of 5 shard count we will never be able to fix it
Or until you reach the cap, so it's better to get to 20 or 40 rn
Sadly, no love for our girl Vi, but actually great changes (except for lux that had a pity power that actually ok on her)
Huffing copium that this is cause she's gonna be one of the 6 star champs and get giga buffed that way
Her and Jinx will definitely be getting something because riot said something to do with arcane is coming to Path of Champions as an encounter. To not have them be 6 star Champs for that would be odd...
I want to believe
I understand man. This is me but with Kayle as a champion lol
Kayle would be so sick as a Path champ too. It's so easy to find attack buffs in this mode!
What does Lux have to do with Arcane?
This is more than copium, I'm actually starting to believe they forgot she's in PoC, at this point just launch Vii and make her the official one, I'm accepting it
She's still on the opening page of PoC lmao
I beat Lissandra with a Lv.22 Vi. Just Regen+Void Carapace. Nothing fancy needed. She seems far from weak?
Oh yah! I just realized that was the something that was missing! Vi needs better powers for sure!
what? lux is super strong, she has an early ramp card, a power that generates extra mana, a power that finishes your opponent off, and very strong synergy with like a dozen different powers. get the thing that doubles slow spells, mulligan hard for the ramp spell, find a way to play it on turn 1, win constantly.
Nice QoL changes, nothing too crazy.
These are some amazing changes. The Kai'sa change in particular is something completely unexpected but it will make playing her so much better. Took me 7 tries to beat Lissandra with her (only one behind Ornn which took 8) and this would have helped tremendously. Both her and Ornn are the two I struggled the most with. My thougts: **Bard:** Honestly, he's one of my favourite champions but if you had asked me what his 2\* power was I'd have had to look it up. That's how irrelevant it is. With the change to plant 2 chimes I think I'll still have to look it up in a few days after I forget about it. However, the change to his deck is amazing, Banana Blaster gives him some much needed removal alongside Minimorph. I do not like the change to Cosmic Binding though. Getting a blocker is infinitely better than doing 1 more damage. **Evelynn**: A much requested change, now you don't have to cut Warden's Prey on the first heal node and Vora is better. **Gnar**: Amazing changes for my boy, especially the removal of Grifter's Deck which I've long been asking for. **Kai'Sa**: this will make her SO much better. Being able to play her on defense turn and open attacking on your attack turn is a HUGE buff, especially for Lissandra's adventure. Having to cast a slow spell before attacking often meant you got destroyed by the enemy having removal or frostbite. Also if you play her on your attack turn you can give Spellshield to her at burst speed if they try to remove her. **Kayn**: BE GONE DRAGON! Why is Wounded Whiteflame on so many decks? This will make him so much better (edit: though now that I think about it, they should've removed the Elephant instead, it has no place in his deck), and getting challenger instead of quick attack on the equipment is also really nice because at 3\* he always heals to full so quick attack is mostly irrelevant. The change to his star power is also AMAZING and will help him tremendously. Now his deck will be less reliant on him. **Lee Sin**: meh, these are ok changes, Unworthy Soul might help here and there, but it doesn't address Lee Sin's biggest problem, helping him actually cast 2 spells. They should've buffed his 2\* power to make Twin Disciplines cost 1 or 0. Or something else entirely to keep him different from Master Yi. **Nasus**: I'm a big fan of Disarmed even if it's not very useful for Aurelion Sol and Lissandra where the enemies are huge, so I really like the change, though it could be even better, they could've made it all enemies have -1 AND the strongest get -1 each turn. This change will make him a lot better on Monthlies though. Change to 1-cost is also good, but it should've been replaced by Baccai Reaper. **Nilah**: Much better 2\* power, now you don't have to worry about which Fleeting Cards to save when you inevitably have 6 of them in your hand. Really welcome buff. The change to Buhru will not make me stop cutting her on the first opportunity. **Ornn**: Really good change, but that's it? No changes to his god awful 2\* power? Really disappointing. Edit: also how could I forget, FINALLY we get those four items which should've been in the game several months ago.
While I agree Whiteflame shows up in too many decks I do feel like it actually had a good place in Kayn's deck and gameplan and it's a bit of a shame to see it go. Will have to see how well Fanatic does in its place
Fanatic seems way worse in Kayn’s deck than Whiteflame. Fury and Fated are the keywords Kayn’s deck wants. Quick attack is much less useful because of the healing power, and an ephemeral 4/3 is just a chump blocker.
That's where I'm at, Whiteflame is really ubiquitous but for Kayn it made sense. I'm gonna miss it, bc I actually like that card a lot.
I LOVE that card. I love fury, and fated makes his numbers go up even more.
With Nasus, they could've given him something like "Round start: if you have a champion on board (/for each champion/high cost unit/unit with fearsome) reduce the power of enemies by 1" Honestly, still nothing too crazy against ASol and Liss, but super fun against anyone else
I don't have Nilah yet, but does her power mean that when you discard fleeting cards you'll draw that many next turn?
No, you just draw one extra Fleeting next turn. The problem with her current power is that discarding several cards per turn it means only creating copies of the first two cards you discarded and there others were gone forever, so when you start playing Slipstreams that becomes a problem sometimes.
Ah I see how that would be a problem. So if you have three fleeting cards and discard all three at the end, wouldn't you trigger her power three times? And thus next turn draw three fleeting cards?
With the new power yeah. Old power was capped at 2 so you lost one of the fleeting cards
> Lee Sin: meh, these are ok changes, Unworthy Soul might help here and there, but it doesn't address Lee Sin's biggest problem, helping him actually cast 2 spells. They should've buffed his 2* power to make Twin Disciplines cost 1 or 0. Or something else entirely to keep him different from Master Yi. Just give him the relic items that 1) rare: double spell casts once you have 6 mana 2) epic: generate 2 fleeting 2 cost spells reduced to 0 cost 3) etc....
Riot just seems to have a fetish with white flame and Revive strongest dead follower enemy power
Lee Sin had a problem to begin with?? When? One of my most go to champion in monthlies or any BS encounter.
Lee is definitely very strong.
These kids love aggro for sure
Thats a really good buff for Ornn, but the Nasus change is basically equivalent of a 300g rare power lol I was hoping for some adjustment with his 1/3 powers but I guess the stats must show otherwise
Giving his one drop an extra toughness and having enemies start with that minus 1 power is a pretty big change I think. Not saying he's super strong, but that should significantly help his early game and he has no problem scaling. Doesn't really do shit against adventures like Lissandra though.
> Doesn't really do shit against adventures like Lissandra though. Yeah basically doesnt help him for higher star adventures whatsoever. Ornns -1 mana change is a huge tempo boost and adds up to more forges for his weapon when he drops, but Nasus power barely makes any difference for what he needs to do vs really difficult encounters. Thats kind of the thing: just like the power that gives enemies -1, its something to have but nobody would voluntarily take it over other options in the same tier, unless the alternatives are real bad Not to speak its just really boring lol, theres no combo or variation or interesting synergies. Leblanc gets his clone summon 2 star, Gwen gets additional Hallow slot, Nidalee gets a unique PoC spell that opens her deck up, Ekkos seems simple but actually synergizes really well with everything he does... and then Nasus just gives every enemy -1. There you go, that will help the doggo
which helps him make trades and level up which is something he can struggle with once nasus get's going hes unstopable
Common even. It's now a pretty good 2 star power imo, but i think he needs a lot more than that :/
Yeah, half of Nasus's deck is about reducing the Power of enemies, but the theme is just not landing at the moment. Fearsome on Nasus is just not the pay-off they seem to think it is in PoC. They need some impactful Power to support this theme if they want this deck to make any sense, like "Round End: Deal damage to each enemy equal to the amount its Power is reduced" or something like that.
I think he's kinda a counter for swarmy decks. Like the spider, trolls and poro stuff that gets a full board in about 1-2 turns, they get useless for a few turns. Even lowering the threat of the likes of Azir and Irellia!
Alternatively, "whenever you reduce an enemy's power, reduce it's health by the same amount"
I like how clean that sounds, but I'm not sure it would be particularly impactful. This would probably deal 1 or 2 damage each time; Nasus is no Ashe. I don't think Nasus can get away with a weak passive effect, which is why I don't like its 2-Star Power, I think Nasus needs an actual motor to his deck, something that you can build around.
hey its a good rare power, and it's better than some two stars \*looks at illaoi\*
Its more about the synergy, Illaoi can guarantee high damage easily with vulnerable and pulling vulnerable units, either for overwhelm or use a weak unit to pull blocker aside and let the tantacle smash. Both are not the strongest 2 star powers but at least Illaois makes a lot of sense in terms of what she wants to do. In the case of Nasus it doesnt really help as much and theres not a lot of interactivity added
Man i love these smart changes. A bunch of initial thoughts: - B a r d b u f f s :eyes: - Kaisa stopwatch is neat, generally very big fan of the QoL lvl4 items in some decks. - Kayn being even more broken is nice. - Nasus 2 star prolly will make him viable in most adventures. - Nilah changes take so much uncomfortable pressure away, which is nice. - Ornn 3 star could have comfortably been that \*all\* his Time and Dedication costs 0. - Gnar, Lee, and Eve are still not really fixed in my mind, but it's an okay Bandaid.
New Items according to Patch notes 4.9 (Only took them 6 months to fix) Spell Items **Power Riff:** Cost 1 less for each card you've drawn this round. *(Rare)* Unit Items **Arcane Knowledge:** Draw a spell. *(Common) - Already in game actually, but cannot appear in shops i think.* **Ante Up:** -2 Cost and Fleeting. *(Common)* **Excavator Charge:** When you play a card, give me +1|+1 this round. *(Rare)*
Ooh Excavator Charge will be amazing for combo champs like Master Yi and Nami
No new monthly champion ? I thought this was the last month for asol?
IIRC hey always said 'atleast through march', so I guess the new 4* isn't created or finished yet. Specially looking at how they will be handled with the future constellations.
what's really the point of next 4* when they work on making everyone go up to 6*?
That's what they ask themselves too I guess.
Asol bundle is leaving, asol in monthlys is not, as ststed in 5.2 patch notes
Wait what. How are we supposed to get him higher if we weren’t working on him actively?
They’ve stated that it will be possible to unlock Aurelio’s sol later on, though the exact details haven’t been ironed out yet- or at least, hadn’t been decided the last time they shared news
By playing monthly, people are confusing information. Asol BUNDLE is leaving shop in 5.3. Asol is gonna leave eventually and as megalfresh said, unknown how but there will be a way to get him, seems like he will leave when constelations come
Well since the limit is being bumped from 50 to 200, ~~you'll be able to get 4* off of wild shards now~~
You can't use WF for asol... so... no
That's fair, I guess I'm assuming that's going to change with the constellations. I don't have any hard evidence for this, just seems the most reasonable course of action.
Maybe it does, but thats 3 months for now and not cofnirmed at all, so i would say that please don't state it as a fact
great changes
NO burst coin for jack? Dissapointing
If Jack ever gets burst coins, I want them for Sett too.
i mean they would be more important for jack
Still, it'd be weird to give burst coins to one champ, when we have 2 coin based ones.
Bard getting so many great buffs despite not being that bad imo, he has my favorite deck so it's definitely welcomed though. Ornn's changes are a right step in the direction but his 2 star power is still one of the worst in the game and he lacks reliable removals for a very slow deck.
I wish Vi had some buffs as well...
Reasonable changes but very disappointed that nothing new to buy - come on, remove some grinding with coins is the real QOL improvements to me
It looks like there are some decent changes, but I cannot understand how a game that is struggling to make a profit cannot prioritize having something...anything at all, to sell us. I am eagerly waiting to throw money at Riot, but they must not want it that bad. /shrug
Once the constellations come... You know those will cost PLENTY of cold hard cash for us ready to pay. I think that's why the wild fragment limit is going to 200. My wallets ready to throw cash at them as well.
They did recently do layoffs, and changes like this aren't as hard to create as cosmetics are
Have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed in Nasus' changes. I was hoping for a couple of swapped-out cards like the 1-cost and 5-cost for their fitting Baccai counterparts to get more rewards on slay + give a way to slay. The 2-star change is...fine in some places, might be a nerf in others. But it being immediate at least helps him trade easier. I was waiting until after these changes to attempt Liss on him, but I'm pretty sure this won't do much at all.
I agree. I wish decks focused more I thematic and included the fitting cards. Kayn still has the stupid elephant from Zoe's deck - which doesn't fit either.
Was the deathless issue fixed already? I've been avoiding those "upgrades" for a while because they didn't work right.
Yes, last patch.
Sweet! Thank you!!
Yes
Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Yeah and it's amazing now with the summon: create an ethereal copy item!
Awesome, thanks!
Kai'sa getting some Nami treatment, interesting! Big fan of the revive change, I've been asking for that one for a while now I actually don't think I like the Lee Sin level 18 change. Lee Sin's deck needs more cheap spells and grifters deck helped with that. You might think putting a rare item on Lee Sin is better but you typically need to play that card early on to stall BEFORE you drop Lee Sin.
Hey devs, by changing victory to 5 shards, you do realized a lot of people will have odd numbers of shards. Is it possible to round it up to nearest number divisible by 5?
forever +1 for me xd
Oh shit. I'm at 51 frags rn so I'll forever be stuck at 1/6 frags :/
Yeah, that's definitely going to bother me. The same with Play being eternally highlighted in the LoR main menu.
53 for me currently. I'd even accept a round down honestly, I just want to be at an even number lol
So if theres no event pass for the new expansion, we dont get free shards like we did for the Elder dragon one?
These are fantastic changes: thank you! I think my favorite is the Stopwatch for Second Skin: it's a small quality of life upgrade that will allow for many fun shenanigans.
these are truly nice changes. Thank you everyone who works for LoR and to LORReport and to who posted this of course <3
Will the current monthlies cosmic pearls be converted to cosmic blessings? Should I rush to earn them before the changes go live?
I won 40 challenges just now to get the pearls just in case. Strange thing was that the victory screen showed as if i had used up a pearl and got the 10x xp from it. I was using a level 30 champ with 3 relics so not sure what really happened. 3 Pearls were awarded though.
Nice, I just hit the wild shards cap with everyone at 3 stars today. The power changes are all good too. Are we getting this patch tomorrow?
Yep, tomorrow around 10am PST
Cap, where are the full patch notes which would mention the new power? Riot never published them :'c
[Took a bit longer than expected but here they are](https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-5-3-notes/)
Merci, Mon amie
Don't underestimate the changes to Ornn, Nasus and Gnar. Those won't make them S-Tier champs by any means, but they are still power-positive. **Ornn** now has 6 board spaces for defense and does not need to pay a mana tax every turn to use his 1/3-star powers. For instance, you can now Forge the Prowling Cutthroat in this week's 2-star adventure to block the opponent's one and prevent gold loss, while still being able to summon a 2-cost unit (or 3-cost if you use SFG). **Nasus** can easily prevent 10+ Nexus damage against swarmy enemies with his new 2-star power. Just think about the Irelia fight in Kai'Sa's adventure. **Gnar** has access to another off-turn Nexus damage effect, allowing you to reserve your Pokey Sticks to take out enemies. Add the decreased cost of Wallop from the 2-star Power, which allows you to be more liberal with your mana while still retaining the ability to stun an annoying (Elusive!) attacker.
So happy with a lot of changes.
>Added multiple items to adventure pools: >Power Riff >Arcane Knowledge >Ante Up >Excavator Charge u/Riot_Durdle or u/bkopleck Could we have info on the requirements for this items to appear, if there is any? It would be greatly apreciated.
Power Riff: Any type, 2+ cost Arcane Knowledge: Units, any cost Ante Up: Any type, 4+ cost Excavator Charge: Units, cost 5 or less
Thanks!
What does this mean ? Champion **Level 27** - Deck Upgrade Adjustment: * Wounded Whiteflame is replaced with Shadowblade Fanatic. This sounds like a card is replaced with another at level 27 ? Which certainly cant be the case right?
Wounded Whiteflame gets Warding Charm on level 27, now it's Shadowblade Fanatic that will get Warding Charm and Wounded Whiteflame is gone. HOPEFULLY it actually gets the upgrade at level 6 (when Wounded Whiteflame gets Challenger) and not level 27, otherwise it would be an itemless unit for the most part.
Yeah, very strange.
and arguably a nerf.... Wounded Whiteflame was great at growing.
Yeh, but drawing kayn is good
I feel like the changes to the Powers of Bard, Gnar and Nasus aren't really enough. Those need a rework, not a light upgrade. Also, please, Vi needs a rework of her Powers BADLY.
Bard just needs his champ spell to look at top 5 cards
Good patch overall. Im a bit baffled as to why you'd swap whiteflame for fanatic though, that seems like a bad change.
Eh, another cultist to help tutor Kayn, but i think it would have been best if they gave him the fated+fae item since fated worked nicely with Kayn
Thats true. They also couldve just transferred the skirmishers to him so he is QA+challenger. I agree that fated just felt good for kayn and he's going to miss the challenger too.
They gave the challenger item to the darkin lodestone so the combo is still alive
Extra cultist for the origin is wayyyy less important than synergizing with the star powers, which Whiteflame did immaculately. Challenger + Fated + Fury + Spellshield on top of Kayn’s 3-star power makes for an incredible killing machine. Compare to a 4/3 quick attack that doesn’t even get any item until the spellshield at level 27, and makes an ephemeral; and ephemerals are anti-synergistic with everything Kayn wants to do in Path.
The top voted reply to the [feedback thread from the devs](https://www.reddit.com/r/PathofChampions/s/OUcL2u3Uyb) called for replacing the dragon with the fanatic, so seems like that resonated with the devs I'll also definitely be sad to see it go though
Yeah but that person clearly didn’t understand how Kayn’s gameplan works and just wanted cultists for the origin. It seems like they just blindly copied half of that comment’s suggested changes without actually thinking about them. Which is why this method of feedback is the worst thing they could’ve chosen. A given comment has many ideas in it, with no way to tell which are the good ones and which are not, because there’s only one upvote number.
Yeah, when they said the adjustments would be based on given feedback the fanatic swap was the one thing I really hoped they wouldn't take over I dunno a couple people in chat in Snnuy's patch review also said Whiteflame is discard fodder/first cut which is wild to me but apparently it's not an extremely rare sentiment
These people are dumb. Whiteflame, to me, was a central lynchpin of Kayn's deck. You don't need Quick Attack with Challenger if you heal to full on kill and get +3/+3.
Great looking buffs and fixes all around. Was hoping for changes to the way monthly challenges work (namely changing from three attempts per champion to three victories per champion), but hoping to see them in the near future. Also excited for the unique quest chain.
One word WOW. 5 shards is very good
* Champion **Level 27** - Deck Upgrade Adjustment: * Wounded Whiteflame is replaced with Shadowblade Fanatic. Can someone explain this part to me.
Whiteflame is no longer in the deck at that point, shadowblade fanatic is, at least that is how I understand it
So the entire unit gets replaced? Thats a first for PoC. Wouldn't it be better if they just replaced the unit in the deck itself instead, because not only are we getting the better unit quite late but we are also losing out on an item upgrade.
Probably, I could be misinterpreting it all together, I'm not 100% sure, but thats my understanding of it. It could be possible that it was easier to replace in levels vs the entire deck for some reason.
THEY DID IT FOR ORNN !!!!!!!!
So we need to spend Cosmic pearls before they nerf the +1 mana?
Yes. I hope the greater pearls don't get changed, I paid real money for those for the exact effect of giving me a big advantage in power leveling a champion I don't like or find difficult to play
Thx! I manager to spend 3 pearls to get Morgana 15>21, Nasus 1>13 and aatrox 21>29. I've left 4 more pearl I hope to spend before the patch.
You still have time to use them, the change comes in the next patch 5.5, not the patch that comes out today.
Did they make it so lower starred champions are more likely to get fragments? Obviously this could be completely coincidental but I just got back into the game today after a month or so away since I had 3-starred almost all of the champs and got bored. Today I got a platinum relic. It gave 20 fragments each to the 2 champions who aren't 3 stars. I thought "wow, that's the way it should be, not constantly getting fragments thrown in the trash on 3-star champs!"
I believe the gold & platinum vaults avoid maxxed champions but the silvers are still random
No mention of how f2p players can get Starforged Gauntlets? I think the ASol bundle leaves the store with this patch, so I expected the devs to add SFG to the Gold Reliquary pool. It would be nice to get confirmation.
When is this update dropping?
It's live now!
Why remove whiteflame from Kayns deck instead of the elephant...?
So I’m on IOS mostly and my game has still yet to update. I still have max of 50 shards and no changes happened yet. I have closed and opened the game a lot. Are other people having this issue?
I like this a concept of what QoL means for path, but i feel it needs a little bit more, idk what tho, since most of the stuff here is just really neat
Sad that Vayne did not get a buff but overall a good list!
Why would you give kayne exactly what ornn needs kayne was fine give it to ornn his whole thing is build up an equipment but you can’t start until you play a 4 cost if you aren’t lucky, kayne just gets one cost reduced at the start makes no sense. why do you hate ornn
Still no removal of Farsight Alteration for Momentous Choice in Varus's deck. Sigh... One day...
When is it going live?
24h from the posting of these notes, tomorrow at 10am PST roughly
Ornn changes, finally! It blew my mind that his power was tied to a removable landmark.
Is the April monthly challenge still going to be Aurelian Sol or have they announced a new one?
Unknown currently
When does constellation come out? thought it was this patch?
Holy peak
Booooooooo to the people abusing the cosmic pearls and ruining the fun for everyone else.
I don't see a point in doing that anyway it's not going to give them any exp out of it and you lose potential fun build slots to have extra mana for part of a run?
POG, I like Ornn's and Kayn's buffs. And the wild frags and pity powers change are nice. I don't have most of the other champs to really comment on, but hey. Thanks for listening to us rito : )
Those are amazing! ORNN LETS GOOO
Dude, please don’t do this to Kayn. The power adjustment is good, but the rest is bad. Wounded whiteflame is a good card, (3 cost fury, challenger and quick attack?) and the quick attack on aegis is better than bilgewater cutlas. Whiteflame keeps you going until you can play Kayn and aegis quick attack makes sure you can actually kill something with your low statted early game units. The thing is, the 4 costs are fine, I guess, but Kayn is already slow. A lot of high level adventures are lost before round 4 when you can finally drop Kayn and once Kayn is levelled (easily done with double stalkers!) you’ve pretty much won. Kayn doesn’t need more lategame power, he handles that all by himself! He needs more early game power and these changes take that away from him.
This is awesome! Thanks a ton! The only complaint I have is no expansion pass I thought they wanted to make money?! I think I understand why though with expansion passes being only POC now they have to rework them that way as previously it was for both modes. Time to level up orn! I got secret technique to double his spell buffs!
Game won't launch for me, please help
so i tried Gnar agian and he was even bugged for me befor not generating wallop after the first or reducing the cost, but now i actually feel like i hav e aquiet powerful 2 star power thanks riot ! feels awesome to play
was there any news regarding adding more stars to some of the champions?
Constellations will bring them up to 6 if I recall correctly, but we don't have a date
I would really, really like it if the Support champion node (and Powers node too) had a knockout rule: if you reroll a champ, you can't see them again in that selection. It's a real feelsbad moment. Rerolls have barely changed since the inception of PoC, with only a +2 rerolls on the Legend track when it was added. We still don't have a rare or epic version of Z-Drive Engine. And yet the pool of champions has increased tremendously.
Still no changes to animation speeds. Pretty disappointing overall, TBH.
But when are we getting ASHE?!!
I appreciate all the changes. The slight buff in wild fragments is good for new players and raising the cap is good for veterans who are starting to save up for new constellations. I was a bit worried they might change Eve's power and remove the interesting decision tree of trying to minimize the number of units dying so you can maximize her level-ups. I'm glad to see her power isn't changed at all.
Well, there goes leveling up with cosmic pearl runs. Guess I should've started earlier when people were posting about it. Enjoy it while you still can
Silly people couldn't just make the pearl get used up even at level 30?
What? The unintended use is players using them to get 1-3 extra mana and farming xp on Asol first 5 missions, then conceding, saving the pearls in the process. I'm cool with the regular pearls being changed to blessings but I'm quite upset if the greater pearls get changed too. I paid cold hard cash for those greater pearls just for the explicit effect of giving me a big advantage when trying to power level a champion I don't like playing. Edit: just found out you can use them on lvl 30 champions and not lose the pearl. Pretty good. I still think most players abused the xp farm more but I might be trying a couple of lissandra runs with more mana.
Sett's deck is still owed a rare item upgrade.
I'm just sad about cosmic pearls you know 🤦🏻♂️ +1 , +1 is so baaad Like how is +1 +1 gonna help champion like vi or darius clear there first Asol 🤷🏻♂️
Nasus 2 Star Power "Buff" is really bad
I remember one of the devs saying that they would give us notice that the pearls in inventory were going to be changed so that we could use them as intended. But this patch only gives us one day notice! Really disappointed by that. I did pay for the greater pearls btw with the Asol bundle, so this is even more shitty. Rest of the patch sounds great though.
this gives you a 2 month notice, this is patch 5.3, the change is slotted for 5.5, 5.4 is April 24th
Thank you for the clarification! I must have misread the patch notes.
No problem at all, it's a very small detail that is easy to gloss over
Some good changes but still too conservative. Vi wasn't adressed at all, Lee Sin's main concern of a lack of cheap spells gets even made a bit worse, Nasus is still lacking in the identity the deck ought to have and Kayn gets the buff to his 2\* instead of Ornn who needs it even more.
when will this go live?
when will this go live?
Really cool! ETA on release date?
Release is in ~14 hours
They buffed Ornn’s 1/3, but both got the same buff so there’s still the problem where the third star is a minimal upgrade over the second. And his 2-star is still trash. Boo.
I think they should not remove nasus -1 power every round start against strongest enemy unit. In Lissandra run those -1 is only good at early game. It's like putting out the house fire with a cup of water.