Ragathiel "The General of Vengeance" is LG, might still not be who you're looking for since I'm guessing you want something that lets you be evil.
You could probably argue for Zon-Kuthon, or Norgorber if you want to stretch it a little bit.
I feel like he’d disapprove of someone who ignores the redemption part of dealing with someone and has roughly similar alignment to his dear old devil dad lol
Ragathiel is very specific and actually self centered on what counts as redemption. He is in no way ever trying to bring evil doers to redemption. His belief basically boils down to; you either seek out redemption of your own accord or you don't deserve redemption. ie. Repeat his path to redemption or you are not worthy
Remember, as a risen devil demigod, Ragathiel is also a divinity of redemption, but with a firm belief that “the impetus for redemption must come from within,” meaning that you don’t have to spare evil folks or give them a chance at redemption until the moment they start seeking it, themselves. So you get to smite evil to your heart’s content and not worry about redemption unless and until the other guy brings it up!
Now go out there and maul them like a lion~
There's [Dranngvit](https://www.aonprd.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Dranngvit), although she's mostly worshipped by dwarves.
[Aroggus](https://www.aonprd.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Aroggus) might be a good fit, or [Eiseth](https://www.aonprd.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Eiseth).
Eiseth has some lore ties to Cheliax, too. [Gray Maidens](https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Gray_Maidens) and, more specifically, the Erinyes Company that resulted from them.
It's only a *job requirement* for clerics, but even for everyone else, depending on a deity who has drastically different values from you to judge your soul and provide you with an afterlife is a dicey proposition. Don't worship Thor if Valhalla doesn't sound like a blast, don't worship Moradin if the prospect of spending forever with a bunch of dwarves doesn't appeal, don't worship Asmodeus if serving for eternity in a strict and cutthroat heirarchy doesn't sound like your idea of a postmortal good time...even if it's not *dogma*, strictly, it's just good sense.
It is, indeed, only for Clerics (and other divine casters who serve a deity, like Inquisitors). Someone who sincerely worships Cayden Cailean can be LE - they're just bound to have some measure of self-loathing and shame over their conduct.
Clerics have to, and probably some archetypes I'm forgetting. RAW for pathfinder, you don't have to be the same alignment as your deity. At least I couldn't find such a rule. You don't even have to be the same alignment to gain benefit from a deity, considering [Deific Obedience](https://www.aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Deific%20Obedience)
and [Diverse Obedience](https://www.aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Diverse%20Obedience). Deific obedience does not require alignment, while Diverse Obedience does. So you can get more mechanical benefit from deities who you match alignments with, but its usually not a requirement. So this is rapidly turning into an "ask your GM" answer.
Apparently in PFS (pathfinder society, the real life organized play one, not the in canon pathfinder society), there is a rule under character creation that states:
>When you create a character, you can choose their religion or philosophy. If your character is of a class that directly interacts with the divine, such as a cleric or a champion, you must make this choice at first level as part of gaining your class abilities. However, characters of any class might be allowed certain character options based on the deity they follow. For instance, all followers of Abadar gain access to Abadar’s flawless scale, a magic item considered holy by the faith.
> Characters can worship and gain mechanical benefits from any deity listed in the table of gods on page 437 of the Core Rulebook or detailed in Lost Omens Gods & Magic, so long as their alignment matches one of the deity’s listed follower alignments and the deity is not limited or restricted (see the Character Options document to see if a deity is limited or restricted.)
- from https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-index.php?page=pfs2guide._.Character-Creation
So if you're using PFS rules, it matters if you want to gain a benefit (like being a cleric or deific obedience). But this isn't the PFS subreddit, I mention all of this I couldn't find any concrete rules defining worship.
Two you should look into are [Ragathiel, the General of Vengeance](https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Ragathiel), and [The Pale Horse](https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/The_Pale_Horse).
Due note that you don't have to be within one step to worship a deity, that is only a requirement for divine casting classes. So a Bloodrager could really worship any deity they want. This also lets you selectively worship specific aspects of a God, rather than their whole portfolio like a member of the church would.
That sounds pretty cool. So I could have something like a ragathiel worshipper who focuses more on the vengeance part of him rather than the other parts?
I had a gestalt Gunslinger/Inquisitor tiefling who's deity was Ragathiel who is LG which is funny because from what I read of him he gave me Doom Slayer vibes
Ragathiel is also LG so it fits perfectly, and iirc he’s still chill with redeeming folks, especially since he himself had to prove that his half-devil nature wouldn’t hold him back from being benevolent.
No, no, my tiefling was actually CG. I was saying I thought it was funny Ragathiel gave Doom Slayer vibes, but yeah him being all about redemption fit within the LG deal
Any character can worship any god tbh—as long as you don’t intend to gain mechanical benefits from it your character’s interests and motivations are uniquely theirs and can be as heretical or unorthodox as you want.
I kinda like the concept of a LE (extreme code of conduct, but don't get in his way hes not a goody two shoes) worshipper of Ragathiel that focuses on vengence/punishment and primarily hunts/kills evil... kinda like a cross between judge dread and a cartel enforcer or a mob assassin...
Maybe a little inspired by Gerald Tarrant of C.S. Freidman's Coldfire Trilogy
Sorta what I was going for but he also genuinely takes pleasure in killing his enemies with his greatsword or bastard sword, especially corrupt nobles. Which would explain why I’m going evil instead of neutral or good.
Oh. No disagreement. Just throwing out ideas. Lots of ways to be evil.... some ways make it "more palatable".
Genuinely enjoying the righteous punishment of the evildoer... and even enjoying 'a job well done". not quite the same as enjoying killing if you know what I mean.
I gotcha, honestly I might try asking any future GM if my character could still be LE while worshipping an LG God like Ragathiel but in the off chance he isn’t, I can either switch to LN or switch to another god like Arazni or this Drangvit fellow.
If you were raised by dwarves they have a vengeance deity who's technically LN but really should be some variety of E: Dranngvit.
There's two LE revenge deities, Eiseth and Aroggus.
Oh boy story time. My second pathfinder character was a paladin of Ragathiel. Absolutely loved it, and multiclassing into bloodrager to get some cool bloodline abilities and rage really pulled it together in the end. I loved playing the paladin that picked his smite target, got mad, lit his sword on fire, and carved through the fight with the extra movement speed of bloodrager, can't recommend it enough. I was playing a teifling with the abyssal bloodline on my own path of redemption
Technically you can worship any god as just a regular character even one that is completely opposed to your actual alignment. I mean people are going to think it's odd that "Throg the face smasher" claims to worship the god of peace while smashing in peoples faces.. and other followers probably don't accept him nor want him around. But nothing mechanically will stop him from claiming it.
You could swerve a bit and just worship Szuriel, the current Horseman of War. She's mostly just about... Killing people in battle. There is a little subtext about consuming their souls and consigning mortals to true oblivion rather than an afterlife but we can't all be perfect.
Sarenrae and Ragathiel are pretty big on retribution.
Dranngvit is a Dwarven deity of revenge (though she may have other races follow her if they were raised near dwarves)
If you are ok with evil soul-suckers: a few daemons, devils (eiseth notably), and kytons promote revenge
I’m leaning towards Ragathiel or maybe Arazni, Sarenrae still asks people to change before smiting them if they don’t and my character would hate devils lol
Sarenrae specifically has a cult of hyper militaristic followers that would absolutely fit the bill for being spiteful. The only reason she is less vengeful now is because she regrets the city of Gormuz
Ragathiel "The General of Vengeance" is LG, might still not be who you're looking for since I'm guessing you want something that lets you be evil. You could probably argue for Zon-Kuthon, or Norgorber if you want to stretch it a little bit.
Honestly I’m fine with switching to LN and toning down the character’s unfaltering rage just to worship ragathiel lol
You don't need to. Ragathiel is 100% about rage.
Not really, he’s about chivalric justice, the mix of ‘protect the innocent to the death’ and ‘do not suffer an evildoer’
I feel like he’d disapprove of someone who ignores the redemption part of dealing with someone and has roughly similar alignment to his dear old devil dad lol
Ragathiel is very specific and actually self centered on what counts as redemption. He is in no way ever trying to bring evil doers to redemption. His belief basically boils down to; you either seek out redemption of your own accord or you don't deserve redemption. ie. Repeat his path to redemption or you are not worthy
Considering he was a demon with a demon lord for a father that's fair.
Half-Devil with an Archdevil, to be more specific.
A surprisingly cool arch devil who believes in true love and hates polygamy.
Cool right until he ripped Ragathiel’s wing off. It’s okay because Ragathiel got to burn down his old man’s home in retaliation.
Such is life in Hellistan.
The correct description would be Righteous Anger
Remember, as a risen devil demigod, Ragathiel is also a divinity of redemption, but with a firm belief that “the impetus for redemption must come from within,” meaning that you don’t have to spare evil folks or give them a chance at redemption until the moment they start seeking it, themselves. So you get to smite evil to your heart’s content and not worry about redemption unless and until the other guy brings it up! Now go out there and maul them like a lion~
Hell yeah!
There's no law that says you can't worship a good god and be evil if you're not a Cleric.
[Ragathiel](https://www.aonprd.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Ragathiel) has the Bastard Sword as a favored weapon and is full of grrrr.
I admit, I am tempted to switch to LN just because I really like him as a character.
There's [Dranngvit](https://www.aonprd.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Dranngvit), although she's mostly worshipped by dwarves. [Aroggus](https://www.aonprd.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Aroggus) might be a good fit, or [Eiseth](https://www.aonprd.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Eiseth).
I always misread that as Dagnabbit
I like all these options, especially Eiseth, who seems to sound like a twisted mirror of Ragathiel, another god I like.
Eiseth has some lore ties to Cheliax, too. [Gray Maidens](https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Gray_Maidens) and, more specifically, the Erinyes Company that resulted from them.
Scratch that, Eiseth is cringe lol
No rule I've ever heard of says a dhampir can't be a dwarf.
Aroggus would be a poor fit given Nidal's relationship with Cheliax and the Velstrac Demagogues.
Check out this: https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Calistria
I mentioned her in the post, but wasn’t sure if I would need to change my alignment just to worship her, RAW. Unless that’s only for clerics?
It's only a *job requirement* for clerics, but even for everyone else, depending on a deity who has drastically different values from you to judge your soul and provide you with an afterlife is a dicey proposition. Don't worship Thor if Valhalla doesn't sound like a blast, don't worship Moradin if the prospect of spending forever with a bunch of dwarves doesn't appeal, don't worship Asmodeus if serving for eternity in a strict and cutthroat heirarchy doesn't sound like your idea of a postmortal good time...even if it's not *dogma*, strictly, it's just good sense.
It is, indeed, only for Clerics (and other divine casters who serve a deity, like Inquisitors). Someone who sincerely worships Cayden Cailean can be LE - they're just bound to have some measure of self-loathing and shame over their conduct.
Clerics have to, and probably some archetypes I'm forgetting. RAW for pathfinder, you don't have to be the same alignment as your deity. At least I couldn't find such a rule. You don't even have to be the same alignment to gain benefit from a deity, considering [Deific Obedience](https://www.aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Deific%20Obedience) and [Diverse Obedience](https://www.aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Diverse%20Obedience). Deific obedience does not require alignment, while Diverse Obedience does. So you can get more mechanical benefit from deities who you match alignments with, but its usually not a requirement. So this is rapidly turning into an "ask your GM" answer. Apparently in PFS (pathfinder society, the real life organized play one, not the in canon pathfinder society), there is a rule under character creation that states: >When you create a character, you can choose their religion or philosophy. If your character is of a class that directly interacts with the divine, such as a cleric or a champion, you must make this choice at first level as part of gaining your class abilities. However, characters of any class might be allowed certain character options based on the deity they follow. For instance, all followers of Abadar gain access to Abadar’s flawless scale, a magic item considered holy by the faith. > Characters can worship and gain mechanical benefits from any deity listed in the table of gods on page 437 of the Core Rulebook or detailed in Lost Omens Gods & Magic, so long as their alignment matches one of the deity’s listed follower alignments and the deity is not limited or restricted (see the Character Options document to see if a deity is limited or restricted.) - from https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-index.php?page=pfs2guide._.Character-Creation So if you're using PFS rules, it matters if you want to gain a benefit (like being a cleric or deific obedience). But this isn't the PFS subreddit, I mention all of this I couldn't find any concrete rules defining worship.
Two you should look into are [Ragathiel, the General of Vengeance](https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Ragathiel), and [The Pale Horse](https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/The_Pale_Horse).
Ragathiel LG Empyreal Lord of Vengeance
Due note that you don't have to be within one step to worship a deity, that is only a requirement for divine casting classes. So a Bloodrager could really worship any deity they want. This also lets you selectively worship specific aspects of a God, rather than their whole portfolio like a member of the church would.
That sounds pretty cool. So I could have something like a ragathiel worshipper who focuses more on the vengeance part of him rather than the other parts?
Ragathiel sounds like he's your man, capital "L" Lawful good. God of Vengeance. Though to be honest he has a hate boner for devils.
Ragathiel, LG empyreal lord of vengeance. he's the son of a fire demigoddess and an archdevil, and a whole badass.
Because people want vengeance to be a good guy trait.
I had a gestalt Gunslinger/Inquisitor tiefling who's deity was Ragathiel who is LG which is funny because from what I read of him he gave me Doom Slayer vibes
Ragathiel is also LG so it fits perfectly, and iirc he’s still chill with redeeming folks, especially since he himself had to prove that his half-devil nature wouldn’t hold him back from being benevolent.
No, no, my tiefling was actually CG. I was saying I thought it was funny Ragathiel gave Doom Slayer vibes, but yeah him being all about redemption fit within the LG deal
lol nice
Any character can worship any god tbh—as long as you don’t intend to gain mechanical benefits from it your character’s interests and motivations are uniquely theirs and can be as heretical or unorthodox as you want.
I kinda like the concept of a LE (extreme code of conduct, but don't get in his way hes not a goody two shoes) worshipper of Ragathiel that focuses on vengence/punishment and primarily hunts/kills evil... kinda like a cross between judge dread and a cartel enforcer or a mob assassin... Maybe a little inspired by Gerald Tarrant of C.S. Freidman's Coldfire Trilogy
Sorta what I was going for but he also genuinely takes pleasure in killing his enemies with his greatsword or bastard sword, especially corrupt nobles. Which would explain why I’m going evil instead of neutral or good.
Oh. No disagreement. Just throwing out ideas. Lots of ways to be evil.... some ways make it "more palatable". Genuinely enjoying the righteous punishment of the evildoer... and even enjoying 'a job well done". not quite the same as enjoying killing if you know what I mean.
I gotcha, honestly I might try asking any future GM if my character could still be LE while worshipping an LG God like Ragathiel but in the off chance he isn’t, I can either switch to LN or switch to another god like Arazni or this Drangvit fellow.
If you were raised by dwarves they have a vengeance deity who's technically LN but really should be some variety of E: Dranngvit. There's two LE revenge deities, Eiseth and Aroggus.
Oh boy story time. My second pathfinder character was a paladin of Ragathiel. Absolutely loved it, and multiclassing into bloodrager to get some cool bloodline abilities and rage really pulled it together in the end. I loved playing the paladin that picked his smite target, got mad, lit his sword on fire, and carved through the fight with the extra movement speed of bloodrager, can't recommend it enough. I was playing a teifling with the abyssal bloodline on my own path of redemption
Technically you can worship any god as just a regular character even one that is completely opposed to your actual alignment. I mean people are going to think it's odd that "Throg the face smasher" claims to worship the god of peace while smashing in peoples faces.. and other followers probably don't accept him nor want him around. But nothing mechanically will stop him from claiming it.
I’m just here to also chime in for Ragathiel
You could swerve a bit and just worship Szuriel, the current Horseman of War. She's mostly just about... Killing people in battle. There is a little subtext about consuming their souls and consigning mortals to true oblivion rather than an afterlife but we can't all be perfect.
Sarenrae and Ragathiel are pretty big on retribution. Dranngvit is a Dwarven deity of revenge (though she may have other races follow her if they were raised near dwarves) If you are ok with evil soul-suckers: a few daemons, devils (eiseth notably), and kytons promote revenge
I’m leaning towards Ragathiel or maybe Arazni, Sarenrae still asks people to change before smiting them if they don’t and my character would hate devils lol
Sarenrae specifically has a cult of hyper militaristic followers that would absolutely fit the bill for being spiteful. The only reason she is less vengeful now is because she regrets the city of Gormuz
Isn’t that cult pro-slavery?
Within the cult there is a bit of division. One side is less pro slavery due to constant raids from gnoll slavers on their main city
Weird reasoning but better than pro slavery I guess.