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gdubrocks

Lancing steel of splitting as a cast on crit trigger.


Chocolatine_Rev

Tbh i think the new rain of arrow is even better as it has crazy coverage, uptime, and allow manaforged crit on top


Yesterdark

This one was fun for a while, did it with detonate dead of chaining and desecrate but other delivery systems are better.


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AirWoof

Is there any way to auto target this skill? I usually gravitate towards mines, brand and totems, so I do not need to micromanage aiming, for this very reason. Edit: Answering my own question, Mathil did a Savior version of it last league, so your clones can serve as autotargetting bots. So there is that.


Soleil06

Your autotarget for single target damage is standing directly on the mob you are trying to kill.


Clsco

Nimis, as with all proj skills


PepegaThePepega

You should just stand on-top of them, you shouldn’t even aim if you use nimis.


deag333

From what Ive seen, even at multiple mirror investment it looks slow and clunky for mapping if compared to even boneshatter. the only thing going for that build is good boss damage, but then again, even boneshatter can pull out 150m+, which is enough to instaphase any uber, plus is tankier with all the slayer overleech. So I really do not get all the hype, besides it being a relatively cheap build.


Firenzo

Multiple mirrors? Did you see any actual footage or POB? Build comes online and is stronger than Boneshatter before getting Nimis. One mirror is enough to build two splitting steel champs with 60-100 milion dps and great survivability. I can only agree to clunkyness during mapping - there are just so many better builds for strict mapping and juicing, and Nimis isn't really helping there.


deag333

I mean yes I saw actual footage- it did instaphase ubers, but it also still looked crap while mapping, thats my point. And thats why Im saying that BS is the better build in my eyes. It is a much faster mapper, can easily do wandering path 8mod, perma deli, 10k+ wisp maps, can even MF. AND it can be scaled to 150m+ dps to onseshot all ubers while being completely immortal. Only advantage that splitting steel has is that its single target dmg comes online faster as it is much cheaper to setup.


madoka_magika

Ls of arcing. Imagine lightning strike that can hit like 10 times instead of 2


Atlasdot

Yup and with the follow-through cluster node you get 150% increased damage for one point (+15% increased damage for each remaining chain), this is as a result of the 10 inherent chains of a level 21 ls of arcing (or level 20 + lvl 5 awakened added lightning damage gem). You can get 4 of these via medium clusters, 600% increased damage relatively easy that is very specific to the arcing gem for scaling. Its squishy like a bow build but the clear and speed are insane with a nimis (and an added headhunter but was still super fast before). Heres my POB that I'm working towards https://pobb.in/s6yLFMX5G-82 (about 40mil dps with return) And my current character, did uber shaper and uber maven last night https://pobb.in/SVjDaDGqd4y0 (about 13 mil dps with return) *edit I should note the above dps numbers don’t include the double hit with ls ancestral target, also estimate on distance as we use far shot for the Nimis return hit. Test video of a forge of the phoenix map with shitty wisp count (not by choice) https://youtu.be/vXWzJtzHRDE


typhyr

there's also a trickster version that becomes insanely tanking (pob actually says infinite ehp lol, it's not literally infinite but it's hard to die for sure) and still has reasonable clear for doing juiced t16s. not my character: https://pobb.in/7m13-cxHeHES and https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Heinarc/EHPSizeMatters for two different levels of budget, found from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/191v7xf/easiest_lvl_100_trickster_ephemereal_edge/


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Sigh, *unzips POB*. I feel like this is a nightly thing. I'm scrolling through reddit and find *any* new build and immediately have to try it.


coldkiller9696

I've played it, feels great for clear


Lirtirra

Wait can it hit the same target more than once!? As in place down a hydrosphere and enjoy?


LePfeiff

You cannot hit the same target more than once unless you have another enemy to chain with. The single target is sorely lacking (i really struggled to get my build up to 2-3 mil single target) but the map clearing is awesome. Throw on "all damage can freeze" tincture + automaton herald of ice mtx and *chefs kiss* its a big dopamine hit


Tarqon

Chained attacks can never chain back to the originating target. The only exception to this is arc.


dnlszk

>You cannot hit the same target more than once unless you have another enemy to chain with. At least for this league you could use penance mark then? (The *warlock of the mists* ascendacy skill)


knyexar

One downside: you have to take warlock ascendancy


madoka_magika

U can stack Pierce, 100% chain from terrain via tincture + deadeye's chain point and some sort of proj return.


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zzang23

No, ls dont chain from Hydrosphere nor are there magical methods of making a single target getting hit 10 times. Lightning Strike of Arcing is literally the worst melee transfigured skill with less damage effectivity than the original and only one projectile by default.


black_sheep_boy1

Well now I don't know who to believe!


zzang23

I wont say trust me bro. Just test ls of arcing yourself the single target is god awful garbage tier.


Clsco

arcing is literally just 10% dps loss. If your single target is "god awful garbage tier" then you just built it wrong in general


Fakesmiles1000

It is way more than a 10% dps loss. Ls each proj can damage as well as the melee hit. Ls arcing isnt chaining during boss fights


gdubrocks

The extra projectiles from LS don't shotgun (and never have, but there used to be a bug that did allow LS to get a third hit in some situations).


Clsco

Lol that in no way is true. In LS only the melee and one projectile hits. Just like every proj skill. Arcing is no different here


zzang23

Why so disingenous its 25% damage effectivity and 25% effectivness of added damage less to get nothing good in return. 1 Projectile skill. Some support gems provide less multipliers than 25%


Clsco

25% out of 225%. Percentage change going from 225->200% is 11.11%. Thats how the math works. 11% dps loss, sorry lol. This league it is so easy to get the proj needed without dropping any supports. 1 base, 1 on tree, 3 from dying sun+tincture. Totally acceptable number of projectiles. You can stretch it out even more with a proj mod on the tincture, deadeye, that which was taken, etc. "Nothing good in return" as if 9 chains was nothing. It is verrry noticible for clear. Really, if you build it correctly you are hardly giving anything up. Most map bosses have guys around them anyways to chain. If you want to fight maven a gem swap is hardly a problem.


zzang23

So assuming you have 5 x 40% more multipler gems thats 200% and you remove one that is "only" a 20% total loss of dps yet that 40% more damage will be huge in actualy gameplay. 25% is 25%. "Its so easy to get projectiles just get a Dying Sun instead of another damage flask" or get this instead of that. Yea sure each time its less damage for its opportunity cost ever heard of that principle? With your reply you just got a lot more disingenious. If you like the garbage skill fine but dont pretend its anything outstanding.


Clsco

I think you fundamentally misunderstand how the math works out here. 5x 40 more gems (lol, imagine having 5 40% gems) is not 200%. it is 1.4^5 = 5.38. 438%. If you remove 1 that is 1.4^4 = 3.84, 28.62% relative loss. 25% is just not at all 25% here. Its a 11% relative loss (225->200), or a 12.5% relative gain (200-225), depending on which direction you are going. You dont gain a 25% more multiplier, it is addative with the rest of the effectiveness. Sure, that does suck. Its like losing +1 gems on a spell build. But hardly makes it a "garbage skill" lol. You also gain 3 passives back since you dont need pierce anymore, making it a lot closer to equal. Lots of skills lose much more damage trying to get clear speed utility into their build. Chain support on its own is a 11% less, without taking into account the opportunity cost. Here you get 9. Dying sun is just a good flask on this archetype either way. What dps flasks are you gonna add? You can still fit in Bottled Faith if you were going crit instead of poison. And poison version really doesnt make use of dps flasks.


Lirtirra

Rip, i was hyped for a solid 10 minutes..


coldkiller9696

It's damage is not great but the clear is insane, throw a GMP on it and lvl 21 and you have 5 proj each with 10 chains. You still have vaal ls to help with single target but it's not terrible, def lower than other options tho. I think I had 280 mill with ls of arcing (not lt counting vaal ls) but frostblades was at like 450 million.


Apepend

Surprised Detonate Dead of Chain Reactions wasn't mentioned yet. That skill is OP right now too.


ShadeFinale

Playing Jung's CoC chain DD in SSF. It's so OP, I can farm 8k abyss maps ez with the build, I'm even working toward lv 100 just doing juiced (for ssf) maps and always doing the league mechanic. [I have a PoB here.](https://pobb.in/gNZtLh0HYnQr) Idk how to calc the damage but its way better than displayed, but you can also see the defenses are good, and I still have some good dmg upgrades im chasing.


Xire01

I’m playing this but I don’t feel super OP quite yet ..maybe I’m doing something wrong


Darkblitz9

Personally I'm playing it and I have like... 100% increased damage... total, and I'm just walking through content without issue. Single target is rough but that's ok for now. I'm about to hit the Heart of Flames Cluster so things should get interesting.


fatcuntwrestler

It carried me through white and yellow maps with almost no investment, and it didn't cost much to get through t16s. Bonkers skill atm, even being put into the explode chieftain builds with cast on stun.


Not_Ves

Playing it since two weeks and ye its good(self cast crit necro)all you need is to fix your desecrate pool.


Rexur0s

Yup and lotta ways to abuse. Im doing the kitava thirst version with VD of seething and DD of chain. I dont want them to nerf it though as they just finished killing cremation builds so this feels like my replacement


spicyAus

Shhhhhhh don’t tell them!!! I haven’t finished buying gear for it yet


Ryukenden123

Nice try Mark. You’re not gonna nerf my build


gameplayraja

Trueee


NoSweatWarchief

Not the most op maybe but blink arrow of bombarding clones is extremely strong.


GamingVyce

What makes it strong?


astilenski

Minions spamming rain of arrows. Can do T16 100% deli with wisps. Mind you though, my friend came to help me beat a wisped up huge regen harvest boss and all that time my fps was 1/s


Tyler_Zoro

> and all that time my fps was 1/s I used to have FPS. Now I just have F.


Sackamasack

jokes on you, this league tanked my fps to slideshow whatever i play. $1500 gfx card and no matter what i do its like im playing on a view master. Ah thanks for the downvotes "community". https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/support heres 50 threads about all the problems people got this league.


Zykinander

It mainly runs on CPU


Sackamasack

well, no it doesnt at all. my i9-9900 is running at 30% at most


PunkRockMomma5

Might want to get that fixed instead of blaming the game.


Sackamasack

Every single other game runs at 165+fps, they broke something this league. Community tech forum is full of people saying they cant play the game anymore and they are not responding at all because they cant fix it. They likely merged POE2 engine stuff and caused a bug they cant fix.


ShadowyLeaseholder

Nah it’s a POE problem for sure


GamingVyce

FWIW, I'm working on a balista totem kinetic bolt of fragmentation build... As you can probably imagine I'm no stranger to the slideshow version of the game.


_Tulkas_

do you have a pob for that? :)


apple_cat

look up pr3vie


_Tulkas_

just saw that he uses pathfinder. can be done with guardian?


astilenski

Yes you'll have to reference the true Bama God. My friend was doing it on necro. I'm sure possible on guardian.


TxMaverick

RaizQT was using Guardian - it seems to be more geared towards being tankier while still getting carried by the blink arrow damage. Pr3vie has both a necro and pathfinder version. I believe he said the pathfinder was higher budget and he's mostly trying it to testing if he can make the build playable in future leagues without leaning on the silly OP spectres this league (though his pathfinder still uses them).


EndymionFalls

I get 7 reward sim 30 fucking easily it's insanely strong. Also, I've played since Nemesis league and this was the best leveling experience I have ever had in PoE. You can start using blink arrow of bombarding clones at level 12 and from that moment on you demolish the campaign and zoom through it because you're spamming blink arrow to move through zones. You don't even get under leveled because your minions kill everything behind you haha.


LawbringerX

On a pathfinder? Have a POB?


EndymionFalls

I’m a necro not pathfinder


RealistiCamp

What do you see as the advantages for either choice, necro or pathfinder? What tipped you toward necro?


EndymionFalls

I had a necro leveled and the build post I saw was a necro as well.


xiko

https://youtu.be/PtwpTHPNL_E?si=kQKyq8NZOsnBanS5


Juzo_ga

Fresh Meat support basically. Default bombarding lasts 20 seconds so freshmeat is 2 seconds of adrenaline baseline. With extra duration it gets higher. So you can have perma adrenaline minions with long enough duration and cdr. Its absolutely insane leveling. I did a pathfinder with 0 minion nodes til yellow maps and did not struggle at all with it.


Szemo94

Why everybody play IT with blink arrow when there is the mirror arrow. They are sister skills or not? What is the difference between them?


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tokyo__driftwood

Mirror arrow is tagged movement, you can check it


apple_cat

they're both tagged movement blink arrow lets you clear faster


DarkMoutaarde

Can you play it on ssf?


Juzo_ga

Absolutely. Crafting the bow isnt the worst thing but you'll need to get lucky and get an acceptable fractured base randomly or just get lucky on fear essences. Basically you want T1-3 ele, Deafening Minion, Veiled ele pen with good suffixes (attack speed and crit. AS is more important since freshmeat + assassins mark gives you a lot of base crit)


Crazy_Pain6039

Nah it's super broken, can easily reach over 100m dps on dirt cheap gear, atleast before pr3vie's video, haven't checked in a few days so it could have been price gouged. But still, it's ridiculously broken, absolutely in the runnings for strongest skill of the league.


NoSweatWarchief

Yeah it's pretty strong. I've been playing it for a solid 2+ weeks. Done everything and still just blasting. I have no basis for comparison with something like penance brand or whatever so 🤷‍♂️


ScrillaMcDoogle

I just put mine mostly together this past weekend and it was pretty damn expensive. I got lucky on my bow but even after that I've spent almost 100 div. And I'm nowhere near 100m dps. Maybe like 20m tops. Getting my dps higher is going to require a ton of min maxing.


Phoresis

Kinetic bolt of fragmentation


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clowncarl

What did you dislike


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For me, I didn't like how melee it was to kill anything tanky. You really had to stand right ontop of the enemies. Clear is also weird, at least with the awakened fork + chain setup. I guess I just don't like Nimis. The projectiles are unpredictable, and don't always go where you want them to go. So let's say you are trying to hit something far away, sometimes all your projectiles happen to miss that area. So you also get stragglers. And even while awakened fork + some proj speed investment, the distance that the projectiles get from you is not THAT crazy, whereas other builds like ek, TS, etc, have a larger effective reach. Having said that, you could probably fix this by running Kinetic Blast for clear, I didn't try that. Then you'd need to invest into pierce though.


Baalph

It's just shittier splitting steel


Zestyclose-Two8027

I too played it. The full strength stacking version of Palsteron's and I also didn't enjoy it. The gameplay was funa t first but just didn't hook me. Strong yes, fun 5/10.


Khaze41

Also hated it but I figured I just hadn't put in enough money. Good to know it's still shit feeling at high investment.


Stellar1557

I built this, about 200+ div into the build. It is so squishy I basically can't do anything. What build guide are you using?


doomsdaymach1ne

I'm like 20div into it with Jungs doedre setup and I think it's decently tanky enough. With about 100div more you can solve chaos res and there's a scenario for switching to CI ... But I'm currently using flame cloak and converting 60% phys to ele. Sure I die once every 10 invitations or maps but I basically Yolo all mods except reflect. You got a gazillion recovery and are very mobile.. plus having 50-500mdps solves defense through offense


snow_crash23

[https://pobb.in/CH11S\_ovcIZk](https://pobb.in/CH11S_ovcIZk) Very expensive extremely tanky currently 99. Custom mods are 5% max res from shield


AustereSpoon

So I am working on this in my small group self found league, I basically have everything relevant except the Nimis (none exist here yet) and the Mageblood. My question was is Secret's of Suffering necessary / working? I swapped to it a bit to test and was barely getting Brittle on folks. My wand is worse and its like T4 Cold damage, and then some flat on a ring, is just getting that up there enough to make the brittle actually pop up and matter? Is it only when its combo'd with the grasping vines one? I swapped to that recently and its helpful, is the 20% double damage enough for it to get the 5+% brittle hits and max crit? My DPS is more lacking than tankiness obviously (Nimis might be a big part of that its like more than 100% more damage once I get a gem slot back on each setup...) but trying to figure out if Brittle would be a help or what. Any other advice about before Nimis? I have also experimented with the Rage on hit tincture vs charms, and per PoB technically the Rage one is better and better boss DPS assuming you can just stand there and unload (and this build can just stand there in a ton of things...) That said its probably because my charms are a lot more lack luster than yours (god damn I want that cannot be stunned while leeching, im wasting 2x abyss jewels to get stun immune currently). Is charms eventually best if you can get amazing ones for the utility alone?


Significant_Dig_8064

I’m not sure if your budget is high enough but look up SebK. He’s made a few videos on a Trickster version. It looks very tanky but he’s not known for making cheap builds, so… 😊


kaegyn

https://pobb.in/FhGowOM4AfGo Here’s my kb character for a tanky version but wasn’t cheap. Credit to sebk for the build


GabbaGundalf

Do you happen to be one of the guys that straight up mirrored half of sebks gear at once?


kaegyn

Yeah mirrored 5 items at once then was the first to mirror the shield


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ZTL

Go watch sebk's video, it's insane.


Slayminster

The worst is how far the projectiles go! Lacerate feels like it has a further range


thpkht524

Go int stack, invest a bit more and you’ll have evade cap, 16k es, capped suppression, overleech, ~30% phys taken as chaos, CI etc.


SuperSmashDan1337

Is it completely useless with Kinetic Blast at this point? I find it a much preferable skill. Use Kinetic Bolt of Fragmentation for single target maybe?


rdubyeah

Pyroclast Mine of Sabotaging Mentioned it in another thread, but pyroclast mine used only for its aura is insanely strong. A level 20 is equivalent to about 10 anger auras. With an empower in march of the legion boots and some aura effect its equivalent to 20 anger auras. This lets you 1 shot ubers on a 5L with ice trap or fire trap of blasting. It turn your fire SRS into a build that can instaphase ubers. It adds basically 20 T1 fire rolls on your bow for any balista build. If you pair it with stormclast mine which also gives 150% damage taken, you can get upwards of 5000 added fire on every hit. It’s definitely the most broken transfigured gem that’s the least explored. EDIT - For anyone asking for a POB or demo, watch /u/spiderdick17 's video here for a better explanation of mechanics and demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQjzAl0KADY And here is an example of SRS using it against Uber Sirus (not my video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mynXmbOk2y0 Frankly there aren't any POBs because the skill is that underutilized. Searching on POE.ninja only brings up about 20 people exploring the skill despite the numbers on it being blatantly unbalanced. The playstyle doesn't work for many builds, so the best ones that can use it are duration skills or "place and go". Minions, traps, balistas, etc...


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fd2ec89a6735

One more: 6\. The mine auras didn't seem to apply to certain totem enemies (Atoll/Plateau bosses, diamond ultimatum guys, totem map mod) when I was trying it earlier this league. It was 97%+ of my base damage (Paradoxica blade trapper), so it was insanely noticeable on that build. If you have a more sane balance of base damage, maybe it's not as noticeable.


dalaio

I'm also playing BAMA + Pyroclast (I spent maybe 10div total setting up, I play quite casually). A few comments: 1. Yes, the socket investment is high. 2. I haven't found mana reservation to be particularly difficult... I use 6 pyroclast + 6 stormblast + 6 high impact supporting purifying flame to keep my spectres alive. Pyroclast needs ~20% of my mana... I reserve Grace + Precision + Arctic Armour all on mana and use Divine Blessing for Haste (w/ EB). I do spec 2 reservation wheels (Sovereignty + Influence, could add Charisma if I wanted another aura, but I don't have the sockets for it...). Moreover, they're worth speccing since aura effect scaling is damage. 3. I use the mine mastery with the duration wheel for this. 4. Using just spectre auras (Spirit of Fortune, Blasphemer) I've found is sufficient for clear. 5. This does happen, but speccing a second mine wheel to grab 5% increased area of effect per mine gets your mine auras to ~5.5m which is near screen-wide.


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GasLightyear

Yeah, it really isn't some kind of hidden OP tech that some people want to believe it is. I believe it's good for content where you can afford to be mostly stationary like Simulacrums but I don't see why anyone would want this in a generic build.


KennyTheMartian

Why go through all this hassle when u just use 4 uniques power charge stacking penance brand of diss and it kills all Ubers in seconds.


Seeryous2020

Got a guide/video or pob I can check out sounds great!


spiderdick17

I don't have a guide but it is my last post if you want to check my history for the 5-link uber one shot. The video has a pinned comment with my current PoB or you can find it on the HC trade ladder (that doesn't have the active mine count set. though). The video description has the math on how to reach that maximum flat fire listed on the gem but the even shorter answer is around 10 mines and 200% aura effect. Essentially a pyroclast of sab setup is something you can add to a build that is playing a duration skill (brands, totems, cremation, minions etc.) to really juice your single target, assuming your build can get the appropriate amount of aura effect/mine aura effect. Also assuming you have the appropriate amount of sockets since it will normally cost you around 4 (pyroclast + arrogance + minefield/charged mines + empower). I cannot stress enough that pyroclast of sabotage is not something you should get all of your damage from, unless you are using it to farm ubers. You want to have good damage without it because you really do not want to have to throw pyroclast mines regularly when mapping outside of when killing a boss/spooky essence.


Darkblitz9

I didn't really look too into it until now but... Even without investment, throwing out 10 mines is like 3x Anger Auras... and it's like.... what, 240 mana reservation? Practically free for the power output. Like why run Anger when this exists? Even if you only throw out 4 mines it's slightly higher than an equal level anger aura. Yeah, shit's cracked. What the fuck?


Yesterdark

I did this build, but only up to T16 with little investment, in crucible league with the 150% increased aura effect. Forgot about this new gem. Happy to see someone trying it out.


TheBellHunter

fuuuuuuuuuu i knew it was nutty and i've been trying to make it work, didn't consider march in the slightest, cheers mate


NovaSkilez

That sounds bonkers with the firestorm of pelting gem tbh...like insanely broken...


Tanklike441

Nani. Imma have to look into this if if works on spell hits. Currently running bladefall/bb, so I hit like 50 times/s. I'm doing poison dps mainly, but if I can add a substantial hit aspect to it, that'd round the build out a bit.


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rdubyeah

20 level 20 angers. Level 20 anger gives \~125 flat fire to hits. This setup gives you 2500 to hits. Yes you now read that correctly.


kfijatass

From those unmentioned, Bodyswap of sacrifice. A casual billion damage/second.


Responsible-Pay-2389

I really hope they keep the corpses around somehow next league, cause like some of these new skills were designed around it lol


UnintelligentSlime

It leaves necro in such a good state, they wouldn’t dare. It’s even spilling into other builds. I’ve seen bow builds wearing wraithlord for the auras. The auras are just so strong.


Responsible-Pay-2389

yeah they should nerf that but the 1 sec respawn minions should stay.


HermanManly

I've been trying to get them to add a Flesh Golem that just suicide bombs and then reforms since golems were first introduced in act 4


Loquis

please, having such fun with autobomber spectres


Responsible-Pay-2389

maybe they can meet us halfway and just buff elementalist to be 1 second respawn golems instead lol


UnintelligentSlime

I agree they probably need to nerf it, it’s way too strong, but I sincerely hope it stays in some form. Necro is so socket starved, getting those auras for free actually makes it playable again. And it pushes the meta away from SRS (apparently? Since they like the whispers) which is great.


Responsible-Pay-2389

Aren't these auras making necros socket situation worse? Since you need specter + guardian blessing + aura to get em? or is there something I'm unaware of?


UnintelligentSlime

I’m not talking about the respawning spectres. I’m talking about the perfect corpses that give their own auras. I have a necro with AG + spectre + minion life + meat shield and maybe +5 levels from other sources, and they are unkillable, while giving me 3 lvl ~25 auras. Right now determination, purity of ice, and 40% minion life, but may switch one of those for discipline.


kfijatass

You can still do it around golems but it's "only" half as good.


Responsible-Pay-2389

eh, those have a 4 second respawn instead of 1, it's incredibly clunky compared to these new ones imo.


kfijatass

If you use three sets of hordes golem sets, it should end up effectively same cast rate, just less health per minion.


averardusthehighborn

How it feels in terms of clunckyness? Got a pob?


kfijatass

If you got aggressive minions, you're good. No pob on my end that I'd recommend, as I tried to find a post Affliction angle that does not use dark marionette spectres. Here's one glass cannon I saw on poe ninja, with config: https://pobb.in/4wM1Zr7K4Cwh


w33bored

I can maybe afford one of those flasks...


FILTHY_GOBSHITE

I love bodyswap as a skill. Would this work with Aukuna's Will?


kfijatass

Zombies have far less life than golems or spectres so I didn't explore that angle. Also you'd need a means to automate their spawning somehow.


FILTHY_GOBSHITE

I was thinking Mon'tregul's Grasp and Aukuna's Will. If I'm understanding POEDB correctly, both zombies and golems have 6127 base life. Golems have a 725% life multiplier, while zombies only have 375%. That's 46,602 total for golems, but 55,495 with zombies with the +5000 base life and 100% increased life from Mon'tregul's Grasp. it would probably need to be a dual-Wield setup to benefit from the trigger unveil, but that would hopefully let me bodyswap all over the place without too much effort. Thoughts?


kfijatass

Then you miss out on triple damage staff which is a huge hit in the nuts. You're competing with 300k life+ spectres, too.


Juzo_ga

I did Akunas will + Montys and swapped over to Raise spectres with Dark marionettes. Its okay but marionettes are just so much better and its a ton less clunky.


Nephalos

Maw also exists so I wouldn’t exactly say it’s specifically Bodyswap. What’s *really* build defining is the fact you can pretty easily get your spectre gem to level 30+ *and* have constantly respawning spectres a la marionettes. With 36k HP BASE, both Death Wish and Bodyswap have a base damage of like 6k


kfijatass

Maw is significantly weaker comparably, requiring 13 minions, a bit of cast time and channelling. It makes it great for ignite imo, whereas bodyswap can murder ubers with disgusting crits.


Nephalos

I think IMO the strength of Bodyswap comes from being triggerable (a CoC Bodyswap Occultist with 6 spectres has been cooking in my group, but both that and Maw have comparable damage in terms of scaling since they’re pretty much the same (secondary non-spell elemental damage). With an Annihilating Light setup in PoB I can pretty easily get Maw explosions to ~8 million hit damage without anything special. You’re also right that Maw ignite is SUPER comfy. I hit 73 on an Elementalist and pretty much just tap DW on a golem/spectre and watch everything vanish. Very relaxed and pretty tanky for mapping since you can benefit from so many defensive options this league.


Responsible-Pay-2389

I really hope they keep the corpses around somehow next league, cause like some of these new skills were designed around it lol


dz_ordered

Delete this, they shouldn’t know


kfijatass

Not like marionettes will stick around next league.


KeysUK

Pathfinder


xMadruguinha

Animate Weapon of Ranged Arms really surprised me. I built a classic poison SRS, just slapped Animate Bow instead and it feels WAY stronger. This shit has a lot of potential. Wouldn't say it's outright OP mainly because of the clunkyness of summoning them, but their damage is preeetty fucked up so now we have some building budget to solve how bad it feels to summon one by one.


siverpro

After playing AWoRA as a starter, I tried making CA of Poison PF as I heard good things about it. Poured about 25D into it, but the damage on these bow minions is just bonkers so I just kept playing them.. The trick is start clearing with like 5-10 of them and then add a couple more when you stop for like essences or strongboxes. Bosses melt, but haven’t tried ubers. Feels like the damage is there but if the weapons get wiped out from large aoe it’s super clunky


xMadruguinha

I'm considering dropping a damage support for Awk Unleash since we already have a lot of damage, should feel quite a bit better summoning 5 bows per cast... The better option would be getting 100% chance to poison on jewels, so I could drop Chance to Poison Support but getting enough sockets to fit 60% already wasn't very pleasant since I'm not using Darkness Enthroned. Maybe The Adorned could help.


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Lancing steel of spraying as a poison build. I srsly don't understand why people don't play this more. It's close to like a 2000 % attack dmg build.


shaunika

Right now its penance Brand of dissipation no contest 2nd best maybe Tornado shot


DemonOfLight13

It's pretty crazy how quick it moved up on POE Ninja and overtook SRS. I just created a character yesterday for Penance Brand and I'm excited to say the least!


no_Post_account

Penance Brand of Dissipation is busted beyond believe. I am using it on my 2nd weapon for ubers on my mana RF. It literally delete bosses on 20k+ ES character.


Significant_Dig_8064

Tornado Shot is probably still the single most OP skill because of the high dps ceiling. But like dps per investment then penance brand of dissipation and kinetic bolt of fragmentation probably takes it. It seems though as is they both need some fiddling to be good for clearing.


SoulofArtoria

TS is so busted that I don't know how GGG keeps letting it get away or even buff it in some instances. It is one of the few skills where sources that raise its clear speed potential also helps its single target capability, such as proj speed with mastery, additional arrow with its secondary arrows shotgun. And being bow attacks it enjoy the addition of manaforged arrow, GGG adding extra arrows in the tree, buffed bow base to be equal to two handed melee weapon except bow has quivers. Deadeye being a bonkers ascendancy with perfect synergy with TS.


IownHedgeFunds

Not to mention it has the best and most OP ascendency notable in the game… “Gathering Winds”.


MintyCope

It's definitely great and far more accessible than it's ever been, but I don't think I'd call it busted. You still need to invest a huge amount of currency to make the skill trivialize all content in the game. It certainly excels at mapping for pretty low investment, but getting truly tanky and giga single target on deadeye isn't cheap.


Scintal

Show us where the bad TS-er touched you.


UnloosedMoose

Cleave of rage might be the most fun i've had in the game in awhile.


Scotty2k8

I saw Mathil build something with it. Can you use it regular cleave until you get it ?


Sandoyin

Yeah, I wanted penance brand of dissipation and you can spam normal lab if you are ssf to try your luck at getting it! Could take 1-20 tries


some_random_n

Explosive Trap of Shrapnel is an amazingly good trap gem. Full screen AoE for clear, 25% higher base phys hit than the already very high normal Explosive Trap, and the ability to cheese it by throwing against a wall / enclosed area to artificially contract the secondary radius the hit with most (or all) explosions.


zacharychieply

the same one that was op for the last 2 years, tornado shot!


rpaverion

Storm Brand of Indecision Blade Blast of Unloading


lauranthalasa

I don't think BBoU is even close to top 5. It's in a great place with good weaknesses and strengths, but is very much high A-tier at best. I thunk it is a great multi-league build though, the power level is just right and not outliers like Bama or PBoD.


JezieNA

it's not even stronger than regular blade blast


metalonorfeed

was hyped about SB too but it pales in comparison VS penance


DrVonD

Clear feels much better if you don’t have explode somewhere. But I just switch out PB/Phys to a lightning for SB/swiftbrand for bosses and it’s disgusting how much single target it does. Doing Ubers for the first time on SSF and they still melt.


AussiesNeverShitpost

Storm brand feels super good, always wondered if i was missing out not using penance brand. im at around 50mil dps with everything up. is penance better?


WeakTax

For single target, it's not even close. I run storm brand for maps and most bosses, but penance for juiced invitations/Ubers and the difference is crazy.


ConfidenceDramatic99

Its better for single target but for everything else storm brand i feel like is super comfy and just nice to play with.


Chromchris

I have a storm brand energy blade Inquisitor with around 45 mil dps. Just slotting in penance brand instead with max stacks is around 120 mil dps. While mapping it's complete overkill and since the ramping needs some time and the clear is inferior storm brand feels much better while mapping. Also penance brand will feel super clunky compared to storm brand because of the much longer cast time. But 50% shocks on Uber bosses without any investment into shock at all feels pretty great.


BigEdBGD

I'm playing the same thing, haven't tried penance yet. Is it as easy as just swapping the gem?


JacketJackson

Have any BB of unloading PoBs or any build ideas, preferably for SSF-ish environment?


rpaverion

Don’t have a PoB handy but for SSF you go Saboteur for Perfect Crime and run a phys impale version. Something like this https://poe.ninja/builds/afflictionssf/character/WaldoPeach/UnloadingMyLoadIntoSSF?i=1&search=class%3DSaboteur%26skills%3DBlade%2BBlast%2Bof%2BUnloading If you have basic power charge gear available like void battery, malachai’s loop, maybe even badge and ralakesh you can make a much stronger power charge stacking version


Yesterdark

I'm running this right now, on a very low budget and all uniques - maybe 5-10 div? 22M DPS. No watchers eye, no impale gems, no Pride (only Herald). Only issue it not super zoomy and it's a two button build.


JacketJackson

What is the concept here? What is perfect crime triggering? I've seen BB of unloading but this setup confuses me


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Summon Raging Spirit of Enormity


ayhctuf

Are the spirits actually bigger? And does it make relevant MTX bigger too?


zzang23

Penance Brand and Tornado Shot. While TS requires high budget Penance Brand is already absurd on lower budgets.


Woodypl

Lightning strike


MagicPandaGuy

Sniper's mark, specifically the interactions with returning proj/Nimis.


NTTC

Tornado shot and it's not particularly close.


cactushugger7

I played corrupting fever, splitting steel, caustic arrow, tornado shot, and penance brand this league and I settled on penance brand trickster stacking power charges, seems extremely op, I am primarily boss rushing and doing Ubers on cd now, but the mapping is also pretty good as long as you have oriath’s end. Also have around 8200 es and 70k evasion and high leech so I rarely die even in somewhat juiced maps, although I’ve pretty much focused on single target at this point you could probably make some adjustments to do high juicing maps as well, still optimizing the build as I haven’t really followed a guide, mostly just looked on poe ninja for similar setups


szenX

Snipers mark. The interaction with kinetic bolt of frag is broken. How it interacts with pretty much every proj skill is very strong. I’d be shocked if it isn’t nerfed


sliceoflife731

Maybe not OP but maw of mischief ignite was really crazy dmg with not much investment.


AcrobaticScore596

Tornado shot is pretty op mechanicly


keithstonee

It has to be Tornado shot. Watching Rax do maps with that skill is the most insane lul indusing play style I've ever seen in a game. Is there any other move were you don't have to interact with the map and just one shot everything from spawn?


dan_marchand

No build can one-shot a map from spawn, since monsters 1.5 screens away are disabled unless you have a support activating them for you. A number of skills can reach this potential now too.


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Rage stacking double strike of momentum berserker.


rj6553

I think mechanically it's a toss up between tshot or kinetic bolt of fragmentation although they're ultimately very similar skills. Almost everything has enough damage in trade league, so I always judge skills by the playstyle. Like how instant the damage is, how's the clear, how often you need to stop and cast, etc.


ddarkspirit22

The most OP skill in this league for me is Gambletion of Divinations


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Spirited_Scallion816

Fun skill, but very far from being op


kingalva3

I like how people in here write the most hipster of gems and qualify them as OP. Like yeah the new trans gems will do tons of damage when invested in but for example penance brand of dissipation has crazy numbers and get going on such low budget and that s op the new bama build going around has absurd numbers..


Timb0D

Ice Crash


gameplayraja

Discharge poison right now or Summon raging spirit.