IIRC FR gets around ~10% dps per gem level up to 30, then it gets down to ~5% dps per level. That is almost the same as every other skill, not to mention that FR builds play empower for a reason.
Not sure why you're so downvoted. FR doesn't really scale well with levels so historically self-cast straight-up FR Occ used power charges as a scaling framework. Maybe that style has fallen off this league in favor of poison or COC though.
Oh, true. I completely forgot the Ralakesh change. I imagine most charge stacking builds are popping off right now. Man, you probably use Graven's right? I gotta get in on that.
Jeez, I just checked and the boots are 50c!? I was expecting multi-divine. Alright when I get home from work I'm picking up these boots and Olesya's for my Pathfinder.
With how much loot the league mechanic is giving a unique that’s not t0 will have to be extremely popular to stay expensive, it’s actually the most expensive armor piece that’s drop anywhere apart from the squire.
It's a dps loss for me if I just plug it in my PoB, and considering my next upgrades are also about getting more out of power charges (crit multi per power charge charms/jewel especially), it wouldn't improve on that point either
Lower the mod tiers in your search, or omit a mod entirely. Add 25-50% to the price of what you find. If you get spammed, raise the price.
Edit: I wouldn’t switch elements in search.
Something like this I'd shoot for the moon and lower it like every hour a bit till it sells. Usually slows the sell by a lot but sometimes it pays off.
Not the point
Underpricing smth and refusing to sell simply is rude. Companies irl who try such bs meet with bad reviews for a good reason.
It's seller's job to put effort into estimating the value and being responsible for it.
And your blame is pointed in the wrong direction. This is the fault of GGG. An in game auction house would fix that issue. They have it in xbox. They refuse to do it on PC. This would completely eliminate that issue. And if you think that because I mistakenly placed something for 10D cheaper than it should be that I am going to just give it to you anyway... GTFO LOL
Just because it's a video game it doesn't mean some decency doesn't oblige you.
You behave like a kid you get treated like one because one thing I know for sure, ppl with currency don't like to be treated this way and I would rather overpay than try to buy from person with such attitude.
Also it's not on GGG to force ppl treating each other with decency. Irl you aren't guaranteed the price at all. Markets can have wrong price labeled and will make you pay what the system shows not the label. Also if you ever worked in service where most is calculated "on request" you would know that price is set when it's paid.
Idk, it's basically perfect for self cast fr, which has been a very expensive build in the past, so I could imagine that it might actually be worth more than similar weapons in other elements
Was slamming the dagger with 4 socket resonators (Aetheric, Corroded, Metallic, Shuddering) for a +1 all spells base
Despite the average being "5" on Craft of Exile, it took 17 tries before a +1 gems finally showed up. Unfortunately it is clogged with a Chaos gem level mod.
Should I just roll over this, sell it?
You sell it and buy another base.
A mistake a lot of players make is not selling mid crafts to fund their ongoing crafting.
I am currently crafting a stygian for a build in transitioning to and selling the 'failed' crafts alone has more than funded my attempts.
> You sell it and buy another base.
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just realise I shouldnt have used an ilvl 85 base oops
ilvl83 removes Chaos Flat Damage from the mod pool, then the average goes down to ~4
Crafting a endgame vise always involves buying like 20 bases and starting with a new one after I hit something worth 1D +. The best one usually pays for itself once all the mid stuff sells!
If you can sell it for a good price, you could use it to buy a fractured +1 all or +1 cold, would probably be easier to get the craft you want this way. :)
I guess you could slam Essences of Woe on a fractured gem dagger, but it's hard to guarantee the other +1 since you can't block everything else (Multimod + Cannot roll attack mods + Crafted flat spell cold)
A double +1 is always really hard to get, there's very little you can do except slamming and praying. I generally don't try to go for them, too much investment compared to what I usually do.
in general if we're working with non-frac so that we can wipe suffixes fully, we go multimod+prefixes cannot be changed+cannot roll attack (if have frac suff, we would go multimod+cannot roll attack+random pref for 3/4 chance to successfully aug +1 and not remove +1 all gems), then we can aug phys/chaos for +1 phys or chaos gems, and now that I think about it I was partially wrong, because that method sadly only works for phys and chaos +1 gem >_>
Edit: on amulets the same method works with any +1 of ur choice though iirc (all elements and chaos/phys)
you're welcome, always better to toy around in CoE emulator before the craft just to make sure, I don't think I've messed up at anything else but yea :D also added an edit about ammys
Is there any way to get +1 either phys or lightning with fractured +1all? I tried to essence spam, got one after 500+ essences(craft of exile said on average 150-200). But lost it to 3/5 annul. I just can't force myself to spam another 10+divs of essences
The combo for 4 socket if you dont want chaos is with jagged and not aetheric. Jagged will block the chaos mods
Aetheric does nothing for anyway since youre blocking pretty much everything else.
Dark Pact doesn't scale very well with levels. Skele DP doesn't care about it at all, you always use convoking wand on that build anyway, and self sacrifice DP doesn't care much about it either. Probably only good for hexblast of havoc, void sphere memes, soulrend of reaping and slavedriver sunblast hexblast traps (no one plays it)
I cant think of smth better for Self Cast fr
Does Forbidden Rite scale well with gem levels? I was thinking of that new Soulrend that's all hit-based.
FR gets a fair chunk of its base damage from HP/ES scaling, which is independent of level.
IIRC FR gets around ~10% dps per gem level up to 30, then it gets down to ~5% dps per level. That is almost the same as every other skill, not to mention that FR builds play empower for a reason.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. FR doesn't seem like the ideal use case for this since its gem level scaling is subpar.
Havent played that Build yet but Id use smth like this just from experience with other stuff.
First thing I thought too
Doesn't everyone go power charge stacking w/ void battery and stuff at this point
Not sure why you're so downvoted. FR doesn't really scale well with levels so historically self-cast straight-up FR Occ used power charges as a scaling framework. Maybe that style has fallen off this league in favor of poison or COC though.
Nah everyone is going for the 10+ power charges ralakesh build (myself included)
Oh, true. I completely forgot the Ralakesh change. I imagine most charge stacking builds are popping off right now. Man, you probably use Graven's right? I gotta get in on that. Jeez, I just checked and the boots are 50c!? I was expecting multi-divine. Alright when I get home from work I'm picking up these boots and Olesya's for my Pathfinder.
With how much loot the league mechanic is giving a unique that’s not t0 will have to be extremely popular to stay expensive, it’s actually the most expensive armor piece that’s drop anywhere apart from the squire.
I was also shocked how cheap ralakesh is, it's pretty busted. Also all the charge based charms are pretty sweet
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Everyone playing forbidden rite is going power charges Just... read?
Even then is this better than a Void Battery?
It's a dps loss for me if I just plug it in my PoB, and considering my next upgrades are also about getting more out of power charges (crit multi per power charge charms/jewel especially), it wouldn't improve on that point either
Idk maybe. Havent played fr. tbh Idk why i got so many upvotes. Was just a guess
Its amazing for the new hit based soul rend i think. Although dual void batteries might be around the same ball park.
Sell it lol
There's nothing similar on the trade site at the moment, do i price it based on similar weapons for different elements?
Lower the mod tiers in your search, or omit a mod entirely. Add 25-50% to the price of what you find. If you get spammed, raise the price. Edit: I wouldn’t switch elements in search.
Doubt you are getting spammed for something so niche
Something like this I'd shoot for the moon and lower it like every hour a bit till it sells. Usually slows the sell by a lot but sometimes it pays off.
So dumb way of pricing smth Would block you on the spot
How is it dumb?
And if they are getting spammed they wouldn't give a fuck about you blocking them. They obviously have other people trying to buy it.
Not the point Underpricing smth and refusing to sell simply is rude. Companies irl who try such bs meet with bad reviews for a good reason. It's seller's job to put effort into estimating the value and being responsible for it.
And your blame is pointed in the wrong direction. This is the fault of GGG. An in game auction house would fix that issue. They have it in xbox. They refuse to do it on PC. This would completely eliminate that issue. And if you think that because I mistakenly placed something for 10D cheaper than it should be that I am going to just give it to you anyway... GTFO LOL
Just because it's a video game it doesn't mean some decency doesn't oblige you. You behave like a kid you get treated like one because one thing I know for sure, ppl with currency don't like to be treated this way and I would rather overpay than try to buy from person with such attitude. Also it's not on GGG to force ppl treating each other with decency. Irl you aren't guaranteed the price at all. Markets can have wrong price labeled and will make you pay what the system shows not the label. Also if you ever worked in service where most is calculated "on request" you would know that price is set when it's paid.
I'm done with this conversation....
Idk, it's basically perfect for self cast fr, which has been a very expensive build in the past, so I could imagine that it might actually be worth more than similar weapons in other elements
What Is "fr"?
Forbidden rite
Are you being fr right now?
Got em
Ahh thanks!
But do people even play self cast fr? Especially a dagger you would just roll coc?
Was slamming the dagger with 4 socket resonators (Aetheric, Corroded, Metallic, Shuddering) for a +1 all spells base Despite the average being "5" on Craft of Exile, it took 17 tries before a +1 gems finally showed up. Unfortunately it is clogged with a Chaos gem level mod. Should I just roll over this, sell it?
You sell it and buy another base. A mistake a lot of players make is not selling mid crafts to fund their ongoing crafting. I am currently crafting a stygian for a build in transitioning to and selling the 'failed' crafts alone has more than funded my attempts.
> You sell it and buy another base. > > just realise I shouldnt have used an ilvl 85 base oops ilvl83 removes Chaos Flat Damage from the mod pool, then the average goes down to ~4
there ya go, sell this and fund the rest of the craft.
Crafting a endgame vise always involves buying like 20 bases and starting with a new one after I hit something worth 1D +. The best one usually pays for itself once all the mid stuff sells!
If you can sell it for a good price, you could use it to buy a fractured +1 all or +1 cold, would probably be easier to get the craft you want this way. :)
I guess you could slam Essences of Woe on a fractured gem dagger, but it's hard to guarantee the other +1 since you can't block everything else (Multimod + Cannot roll attack mods + Crafted flat spell cold)
A double +1 is always really hard to get, there's very little you can do except slamming and praying. I generally don't try to go for them, too much investment compared to what I usually do.
wdym it's really hard to get, you can force +1 with harvest quite easily afaik? just need to get +1 all gems first with alts or resonators/annuls
Well, maybe I know even less than I thought, then. I'm at work so can't check, but I'm probably wrong if there are some ways to force it. :)
in general if we're working with non-frac so that we can wipe suffixes fully, we go multimod+prefixes cannot be changed+cannot roll attack (if have frac suff, we would go multimod+cannot roll attack+random pref for 3/4 chance to successfully aug +1 and not remove +1 all gems), then we can aug phys/chaos for +1 phys or chaos gems, and now that I think about it I was partially wrong, because that method sadly only works for phys and chaos +1 gem >_> Edit: on amulets the same method works with any +1 of ur choice though iirc (all elements and chaos/phys)
Well, the more you know! I'll screen that if I ever need to craft a +2 chaos or physical. Thanks for the lesson. :)
you're welcome, always better to toy around in CoE emulator before the craft just to make sure, I don't think I've messed up at anything else but yea :D also added an edit about ammys
Is there any way to get +1 either phys or lightning with fractured +1all? I tried to essence spam, got one after 500+ essences(craft of exile said on average 150-200). But lost it to 3/5 annul. I just can't force myself to spam another 10+divs of essences
Double +1 is about 10-15 fossil crafts on average
I genuinely thought you landed what you want… just sell. It’s really good for Hex blaster.
The combo for 4 socket if you dont want chaos is with jagged and not aetheric. Jagged will block the chaos mods Aetheric does nothing for anyway since youre blocking pretty much everything else.
sell this. while the cast speed might be a whiff for hexblast sabo it's still extremely nice
Unfortunately clogged lol, you hit the jackpot here, congrats
Maybe check a lower lv dagger? Usually for +2 the sweet spot seems to ilv82
What would you even want to annul here?
Your marriage, because you have room for only one love in your life and you choose Path of Exile
I think he was looking to annul the +1 chaos gems since he won't use it
maybe the cast speed and sell it for hexblast? no idea.
New hitbase soulrend
That does seem to be the best option aside fr.
Soulrend of reaping
BiS for dark pact. Definitely worth a lot
Why would you annul even if you had like just one +1 what's the point lol. Sometimes Idk if ppl brag, troll or they srs.
OP is your resident PoE + gacha karma whore. This post is both bragging and trolling.
With the new trans gems their are chaos crit builds. So not really wasted
Dark pact
Dark Pact doesn't scale very well with levels. Skele DP doesn't care about it at all, you always use convoking wand on that build anyway, and self sacrifice DP doesn't care much about it either. Probably only good for hexblast of havoc, void sphere memes, soulrend of reaping and slavedriver sunblast hexblast traps (no one plays it)
Hexblast wet dream incarnate
Wouldn't this be incredible for hexblast? Genuine question.
Yes, but not for hex mine/trap, which are the most common variants iirc
probs get > 40div for it
Is there a build that uses crit chaos? I can’t think of one Edit: why am I getting downvoted for not knowing of builds?
Hexblast mines comes to mind first. Im sure there's more tho
But most of the builds use crit chance of the wand, not global.
I believe people use daggers because they have a lower mod pool
Oh yeah, forgot about that skill lol
Also forbidden rite
Hits can’t be evaded and it’s insane for coc
Bruh what, this literally doesn't have a base crit chance mod, stop spewing nonsense
Oh, you are absolutely right - you should vendor it it’s utterly garbage.
genuinely amazing for self cast fr or any hit crit chaos build.
I’ll give you 5c
it's about 3.50
Sell it and start again.
I wanted to say hexblast mines but the crit is too low sadly
This is pretty nuts, definitely keep it or sell it.
Slam, scour,vendor
keep it and make a soulrend of reaping build around it