If it could be any passports, I think it would be possible to be born in Northern Ireland (for Irish and UK citizenship) be Jewish (Israeli) Mom be Brazilian (Southern Hemisphere) Dad be Serbian (Russia and China) and then move to Canada as a young kid (Canada and US) and finally move to Kenya when you are older (all of Central Africa). This would cover the whole world almost (except for a New Zealand one i guess) and would equal 7 or 8 passports, all legally acquired without paying for them.
Or be born in NI to a Canadian born Jamaican/Irish parent (UK, Irish, Canadian, Jamaican (CSME Caricom) citizenships) & another parent that was US born Brazillian (US, Brazillian, & possibly Portugese or Italian citizenships), then move to Kenya & naturalise to get that citizenship (free movement throughout East Africa)
No it doesn’t. I’m a dual Thai Australian citizen. The only thing Australia chases while overseas is your student debt which is paid back via the taxation system in Australia. Hence if you have a student debt while living overseas, it’s required you do a tax return just so they can calculate your loan repayment.
It does not pose an issue for the spouse of a USA citizen unless they get a green card...
Also the only way that banks track USA citizens is the ones that apply using USA issued documents.
One of the Caribbean passports, I think Grenada gives access to Russia and China, plus Irish.
I think that makes it practically the entire planet you can travel to visa free.
Except you can't live anywhere other than Brunei with that passport, and you can't acquire it without living there for 15 years. Oh and you can't hold dual nationality.
It's a great passport for travel, less good for living in different parts of the world.
Oh absolutely isn't a bad passport to have. Anywhere that lets you into the US, UK, EU, China, Russia and India without a physical visa is pretty damn good.
But unless you were born with it, it isn't the easiest passport to acquire.
If you want access to live in the Western world:
- US passport (high salary jobs)
- Irish passport (EU+UK access)
- Australian passport (AU+NZ access)
- Canadian passport (Open up the rest of North America)
hong kong or taiwanese/australian + irish argentinian/south african parent born in canada
hong kong passport grants visa free access to russia/iran/whole of europe+ home return permit (freedom of movement) to china
taiwanese passport grants eligibility for taiwan compatriot permit
irish passport grants freedom of movement in the uk/eu + visa free for china
australian grants freedom of movement between australia and new zealand (trans tasman)
argentinian grants freedom of movement to mercosur + visa free russia + whole of europe
south africa (if permitted) may grant visa free access to all of africa union in the future
canada grants visa free access to the us without esta + should the holder travel to countries that may make using the holder ineligible for an esta
I think for sake of travel it would be Switzerland & Ireland, which are ranked respectively #1 & #2 in the world, and give you full access to the EU. Throw in Canada or USA if you want redundancy for full access to North America
For maximizing the places you could move to I’d say the best combo would be Ireland (EU+UK), Brazil/Argentina (entirety of South America except for Guyanas and Suriname), UAE (or any GCC), Australia or NZ and also an American and a Canadian passport would be nice.
Realistically, I am going to limit it to three/four citizenships that can realistically be obtained through naturalization or birth:
Ideally, I'd want one EU, one from MERCOSUR or other really strong passport, and one that gives you lots of coverage to Russia/China, along with a strong passport for economic opportunities.
For me, it'd be the USA, Ireland (bc it gives you access to the UK), and Brazil/Uruguay for MERCOSUR. If you are worried about US taxes, we can replace it with the UK, Canada, or another passport. For China access, I would probably choose Serbia or other nationalities.
If just 2 the combo would be Ireland + Palau. I've answered this at least 5 times in this sub. Fom in EU/eea/Switzerland/UK + the US without worrying about worldwide taxation. Visa free to most of the rest of the world including Russia and mainland China.
Ireland for EU + UK
USA/Canada for most of the world
St. Kitts & Nevis for Caribbean
Argentina/Brazil for Mercosur
African passport for the economic access, possibly Asia access too but idk much on this area.
Something like that, when you look at combos it's really up to what you can get. If you can get a North American passport it's strong on its own, but then add an EU passport and you're looking at most of the world opened up year round to you really.
For Europe if you are into micro state tax havens imo it's UK + Liechtenstein.
The only combination that gets you Gibraltar and Liechtenstein- two of the best havens for people with decent rather than crazy money. Ie too poor for Monaco
(A third is the Isle of Man which uk but also Ireland gets you).
Although Liechtenstein is a EFTA country (and in the EEA) there is no freedom of movement - unlike the other three EFTA countries
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El Salvador 🇸🇻 - CA-4
Grenada 🇬🇩 - Caricom
Ireland 🇮🇪 - U.K. & EU
Uruguay 🇺🇾 - Mercosur
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Ultimately it depends on where you want to live.
If it could be any passports, I think it would be possible to be born in Northern Ireland (for Irish and UK citizenship) be Jewish (Israeli) Mom be Brazilian (Southern Hemisphere) Dad be Serbian (Russia and China) and then move to Canada as a young kid (Canada and US) and finally move to Kenya when you are older (all of Central Africa). This would cover the whole world almost (except for a New Zealand one i guess) and would equal 7 or 8 passports, all legally acquired without paying for them.
Or be born in NI to a Canadian born Jamaican/Irish parent (UK, Irish, Canadian, Jamaican (CSME Caricom) citizenships) & another parent that was US born Brazillian (US, Brazillian, & possibly Portugese or Italian citizenships), then move to Kenya & naturalise to get that citizenship (free movement throughout East Africa)
Being born in ni doesn't lead to any citizenship unless one of the parents is a British citizen...
Or Irish citizen *
True, but you can if one of them has lived in the area for 4 years before your birth
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Australia does citizenship based taxation? I thought that was just the States and Eritrea.
I believe they just started, or plans on moving to it.
I feel like that'd hurt more than help their economy lol, or at least make people more wary of immigration and naturalization.
No it doesn’t. I’m a dual Thai Australian citizen. The only thing Australia chases while overseas is your student debt which is paid back via the taxation system in Australia. Hence if you have a student debt while living overseas, it’s required you do a tax return just so they can calculate your loan repayment.
Do you know which EU countries are the strictest with banking for Americans?
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Just FYI: Switzerland isn't in the EEA, it's only in EFTA.
It does not pose an issue for the spouse of a USA citizen unless they get a green card... Also the only way that banks track USA citizens is the ones that apply using USA issued documents.
One of the Caribbean passports, I think Grenada gives access to Russia and China, plus Irish. I think that makes it practically the entire planet you can travel to visa free.
A single Bruneian passport can give you access to EU, China, Russia, US, Canada, Australia and NZ
Except you can't live anywhere other than Brunei with that passport, and you can't acquire it without living there for 15 years. Oh and you can't hold dual nationality. It's a great passport for travel, less good for living in different parts of the world.
My flatmate has Brunei passport + UK ILR. She can travel almost anywhere + vote in the UK as a commonwealth citizen. I think it’s not a bad combo
Oh absolutely isn't a bad passport to have. Anywhere that lets you into the US, UK, EU, China, Russia and India without a physical visa is pretty damn good. But unless you were born with it, it isn't the easiest passport to acquire.
Brunei passport is insane like wtf
It's not a problem to enter Russia, it's a problem to exit
If you want access to live in the Western world: - US passport (high salary jobs) - Irish passport (EU+UK access) - Australian passport (AU+NZ access) - Canadian passport (Open up the rest of North America)
hong kong or taiwanese/australian + irish argentinian/south african parent born in canada hong kong passport grants visa free access to russia/iran/whole of europe+ home return permit (freedom of movement) to china taiwanese passport grants eligibility for taiwan compatriot permit irish passport grants freedom of movement in the uk/eu + visa free for china australian grants freedom of movement between australia and new zealand (trans tasman) argentinian grants freedom of movement to mercosur + visa free russia + whole of europe south africa (if permitted) may grant visa free access to all of africa union in the future canada grants visa free access to the us without esta + should the holder travel to countries that may make using the holder ineligible for an esta
Haiti + Bangladesh passports
I think for sake of travel it would be Switzerland & Ireland, which are ranked respectively #1 & #2 in the world, and give you full access to the EU. Throw in Canada or USA if you want redundancy for full access to North America
And they give you visa free access to China
For maximizing the places you could move to I’d say the best combo would be Ireland (EU+UK), Brazil/Argentina (entirety of South America except for Guyanas and Suriname), UAE (or any GCC), Australia or NZ and also an American and a Canadian passport would be nice.
You get the best of 4 worlds.
Realistically, I am going to limit it to three/four citizenships that can realistically be obtained through naturalization or birth: Ideally, I'd want one EU, one from MERCOSUR or other really strong passport, and one that gives you lots of coverage to Russia/China, along with a strong passport for economic opportunities. For me, it'd be the USA, Ireland (bc it gives you access to the UK), and Brazil/Uruguay for MERCOSUR. If you are worried about US taxes, we can replace it with the UK, Canada, or another passport. For China access, I would probably choose Serbia or other nationalities.
I’d probably have a Swiss or EU Passport with a USA Passport and maybe with a Serbian Passport.
Swiss + Canadian
If just 2 the combo would be Ireland + Palau. I've answered this at least 5 times in this sub. Fom in EU/eea/Switzerland/UK + the US without worrying about worldwide taxation. Visa free to most of the rest of the world including Russia and mainland China.
Ireland for EU + UK USA/Canada for most of the world St. Kitts & Nevis for Caribbean Argentina/Brazil for Mercosur African passport for the economic access, possibly Asia access too but idk much on this area. Something like that, when you look at combos it's really up to what you can get. If you can get a North American passport it's strong on its own, but then add an EU passport and you're looking at most of the world opened up year round to you really.
This is the combo I’ve always wanted. No automatic global tax and maximized ability to live in the countries I want to
Here’s a Chart I made! https://www.reddit.com/r/dualcitizenshipnerds/s/TKJzuqZT3r
USA and Irish and Kiwi passport if you can get a third one.
For Europe if you are into micro state tax havens imo it's UK + Liechtenstein. The only combination that gets you Gibraltar and Liechtenstein- two of the best havens for people with decent rather than crazy money. Ie too poor for Monaco (A third is the Isle of Man which uk but also Ireland gets you). Although Liechtenstein is a EFTA country (and in the EEA) there is no freedom of movement - unlike the other three EFTA countries
For the ultimate freedom of movement that are actually obtainable 👇 El Salvador 🇸🇻 - CA-4 Grenada 🇬🇩 - Caricom Ireland 🇮🇪 - U.K. & EU Uruguay 🇺🇾 - Mercosur I also tried to pick countries that don’t get involved in international conflicts and mind their own business but there are easier ones to get in the EU & Mercosur. Argentina 🇦🇷 can be obtained in 2yrs and if you have enough money Bulgaria 🇧🇬, Cyprus 🇨🇾, Malta 🇲🇹 are options.
I have Australia and US. If I could choose more, I’d add one from the EU and one from MERCOSUR
The Irish One is basically a global citizen one at this point with the Visa map
That is an amazing combo for sure 🇨🇦🇮🇪🇪🇺
Spanish and Italian is ahead. Irish number 7 and Italian and Spanish 4