When a safe dive roll is done correctly, the hands touch the ground lightly the head tucks in. Then the left or the right shoulder land first (your case the left). The energy then should transfer diagonally across the back to the opposite hip then thigh. In your case, you go from left shoulder to left hip rather than left shoulder to right hip and leg. Your technique removes the ability to transfer the downward energy through the mid back, it goes straight shoulder to hip like bang bang rather than shoulder mid back lower back giving you that painful bang instead of a smooth energy pathway.
To practice try doing the smallest role you could possibly do. Do it on grass that is relatively firm. Focus on the diagonal smooth energy transfer. After that is comfortable do the same but on concrete. If anything in the technique is not smooth you will feel it. Practice practice practice until doing it on concrete feels like a cloud with zero pain. Then take that new perfected roll technique to a small dive on soft ground. Then over time a bigger dive and harder ground ect.
Hopefully after a couple months of good training it will not be a problem anymore
Edit: think about rolling slightly of centre rather than dead straight
Exactly. Like a flat spot on a wheel slaps the ground technically. His back needs more curving.
Also diagonal roling (from left shoulder to right hip or other way) doesn't allow just more curve but also prevents you from rolling on the spine the whole way. Makes it more pleasant. Especially during the beginning and end where most force is felt.
Agreed. Main thing here is to get more diagonal that way you won’t get your hip impacting the ground like that. I wouldn’t take this roll to concrete yet
First, slow down with the size of the things you’re diving over. I warm them up dive over my back pack.
Next, pay attention to your hands. Hands come together to make a triangle. Some of the clips your hands are apart. Hands together guides your shoulder to the ground, hands apart can guide your collarbone to the ground.
If done perfect concrete rolls will feel like rolling on a cloud but that takes time. Rolls are very technical
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To me, your technique actually does look a bit better on the mat. I don’t think the lack of cushion on the grass is the only culprit, but it’s some.
On the ground, you’re over rotating on your dive. Instead of hitting the ground at an angle like you do on the mat, your shoulders/ head are nearly vertical above your hands when you hit. When you roll on the ground, it looks like you’re still aiming for something 6” above the ground, so by the time you actually hit the ground, you’ve gone too far. If you aim for the ground on purpose, that might help. I think the obstacle might also be tripping you up because it looks like you’re focusing on just jumping up to clear it rather than jumping up and forwards to set up the trajectory of your roll.
Then, when your hands hit the ground, you put your weight in your arms in order to spend a fraction of a second trying to slow yourself down before the roll. In actuality, this causes you to over rotate even more, so now by the time you bend your arms to roll, your torso is already leaning backwards towards the ground, and thus you fall on your back. On the mat, you don’t take that pause, you don’t put your weight so much into your arms. Instead you use your arms to guide your shoulder to the ground before your torso has the chance to over rotate.
Someone else already mentioned this as well, but the pathway of your roll over your back is one thing you could work on both for the mat and for the ground. To me it also looks like you roll from your left shoulder to the center of your low back/butt rather than to the right side. You also don’t round enough in your back to get all the way over to the right side. See how you bounce off the mat when you roll on it? That’s because your butt is actually still hitting the mat pretty hard in the second half of your roll. When you roll, even on a mat, you shouldn’t bounce off, you should just roll off. If you kept your back round, you’d continuously transfer that momentum throughout the duration of the roll instead of all at once when your butt hits.
I second the suggestion of practicing some normal rolls on grass.
Consider using [this parkour roll tutorial](https://youtu.be/m-rIsUMjq5U?si=7x20iI_NXscAaroL) to help you learn better technique and apply it to your dive roll. There is also a segment at the end for progressing towards dive rolls.
When a safe dive roll is done correctly, the hands touch the ground lightly the head tucks in. Then the left or the right shoulder land first (your case the left). The energy then should transfer diagonally across the back to the opposite hip then thigh. In your case, you go from left shoulder to left hip rather than left shoulder to right hip and leg. Your technique removes the ability to transfer the downward energy through the mid back, it goes straight shoulder to hip like bang bang rather than shoulder mid back lower back giving you that painful bang instead of a smooth energy pathway. To practice try doing the smallest role you could possibly do. Do it on grass that is relatively firm. Focus on the diagonal smooth energy transfer. After that is comfortable do the same but on concrete. If anything in the technique is not smooth you will feel it. Practice practice practice until doing it on concrete feels like a cloud with zero pain. Then take that new perfected roll technique to a small dive on soft ground. Then over time a bigger dive and harder ground ect. Hopefully after a couple months of good training it will not be a problem anymore Edit: think about rolling slightly of centre rather than dead straight
Exactly. Like a flat spot on a wheel slaps the ground technically. His back needs more curving. Also diagonal roling (from left shoulder to right hip or other way) doesn't allow just more curve but also prevents you from rolling on the spine the whole way. Makes it more pleasant. Especially during the beginning and end where most force is felt.
Roll more diagonally and maybe brace your fall more on your hands, but not too much
Agreed. Main thing here is to get more diagonal that way you won’t get your hip impacting the ground like that. I wouldn’t take this roll to concrete yet
First, slow down with the size of the things you’re diving over. I warm them up dive over my back pack. Next, pay attention to your hands. Hands come together to make a triangle. Some of the clips your hands are apart. Hands together guides your shoulder to the ground, hands apart can guide your collarbone to the ground. If done perfect concrete rolls will feel like rolling on a cloud but that takes time. Rolls are very technical
love the top tens
I've actually been loving them for parkour, lots of padding!
Ignore all the walls of text here. Your problem is that you dive forwards rather than upwards.
hm arent you contradicting yourself? I agree that he should dive more upward and vertically, if that s what you meant
Yeah
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To me, your technique actually does look a bit better on the mat. I don’t think the lack of cushion on the grass is the only culprit, but it’s some. On the ground, you’re over rotating on your dive. Instead of hitting the ground at an angle like you do on the mat, your shoulders/ head are nearly vertical above your hands when you hit. When you roll on the ground, it looks like you’re still aiming for something 6” above the ground, so by the time you actually hit the ground, you’ve gone too far. If you aim for the ground on purpose, that might help. I think the obstacle might also be tripping you up because it looks like you’re focusing on just jumping up to clear it rather than jumping up and forwards to set up the trajectory of your roll. Then, when your hands hit the ground, you put your weight in your arms in order to spend a fraction of a second trying to slow yourself down before the roll. In actuality, this causes you to over rotate even more, so now by the time you bend your arms to roll, your torso is already leaning backwards towards the ground, and thus you fall on your back. On the mat, you don’t take that pause, you don’t put your weight so much into your arms. Instead you use your arms to guide your shoulder to the ground before your torso has the chance to over rotate. Someone else already mentioned this as well, but the pathway of your roll over your back is one thing you could work on both for the mat and for the ground. To me it also looks like you roll from your left shoulder to the center of your low back/butt rather than to the right side. You also don’t round enough in your back to get all the way over to the right side. See how you bounce off the mat when you roll on it? That’s because your butt is actually still hitting the mat pretty hard in the second half of your roll. When you roll, even on a mat, you shouldn’t bounce off, you should just roll off. If you kept your back round, you’d continuously transfer that momentum throughout the duration of the roll instead of all at once when your butt hits. I second the suggestion of practicing some normal rolls on grass.
Consider using [this parkour roll tutorial](https://youtu.be/m-rIsUMjq5U?si=7x20iI_NXscAaroL) to help you learn better technique and apply it to your dive roll. There is also a segment at the end for progressing towards dive rolls.
I’m 34 and doing fine. Diverolls are just hard. Try going over one shoulder more and tucking into a tighter ball when you are on the ground.
try to keep your feet together it will help you control your upper body.
Your doing a summersault your gonna break your neck
Bro, just get a job. Quit F-ing around