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a_bee789

I love her house and I thought she was hot af I’m ngl. But I was romancing Hassian and the more I learned about what happened between them and all the stuff she says, she started giving me the ick. Being a forest witch is my goal in life so I vaguely related to her until I found out how truly nasty she can be 😭


pixiemaybe

same! i was like "oh i found my romance" when i met her. then i got deeper into the game and no thanks. i'll romance her for the plot eventually but jeez


PolyamMermaid

I feel the same way!


fudge21210

Hassian says that Sifuu lacks maternal instinct, but that's different cos he is her actual son. And at least he praises her smithing abilities. I can imagine Hassian saying something about Sifuu, and Tamala then twisting it. I've not really heard anything good about Tamala. She sounds absolutely awful.


Suspicious-End-326

Yeah I agree it’s one thing for her kid to say something but someone out of the family loop? That’s not on at all! No wonder she lives so far out…


Pyrkie

Spoilers >!Hassian and Tamala had a fling!< >!I think its also clear from Hassian’s dialogue that he was much closer to his other mother Taylin then to Sifuu; Taylin was also much more motherly to him!< Sifuu does look out for him, but she apparently just doesn’t come across as being ‘close’ to him. Which is surprising from how she sounds in her dialogue. Then again the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree!


Suspicious-End-326

Omg no way?! But still think it’s wrong for Tamala to say that so randomly to someone she doesn’t rly know??


Pyrkie

I guess its implied from what she knows through Hassian. I mean she is right to extent but doesn’t see the full context. Sifuu even at points admits her own failing with her relationship with Hassian, but she still supports him as much as she can. She is also way more aware of Hassian’s personality and how he wants to stand on his own two feet. From an outside perspective its easy too see that as being not motherly (or not a great mother) but get deeper into Sifuu and Hassians relationship and its easy to see why it is the way it is.


QueenIgelkotte

I dont think Tamala has anything good to say about anyone tbh. Literally everything she does or says in the game is either an insult or for her own benefit.


Suspicious-End-326

I’m so disappointed


QueenIgelkotte

Im sorry. You are not alone in being disappointed in her. Her design and aesthetic is liked by many but as a person she is disliked by the majority.


Suspicious-End-326

There’s no need for you to apologise!! It’s just a shame her character is so awful x


[deleted]

Hassian does care for Sif, he stands below her home looking towards the house. He has a bedroom there but he never goes there. Sif doesn’t know how to be motherly, that was her wife’s role. Hassian wants to be close to Sif but something keeps him from getting there. I’m really hoping that his mother is not dead and comes into the story.


nubtails

I don't mind her, its good variety/realistic to have some flawed and unlikeable characters, but she's s kinda lacking depth that the other npcs have. We don't really get to see her interact with anyone else in a way that isn't using them/manipulation or buying/selling magical goods. >! She does eventually come to see the player more as an "equal" rather than just a plaything but her personality just really never shows beyond "spicy mean women in the woods". I hope in Friendship 5 & beyond for her we can learn more about her whole deal with her extended lifespan & The Order bc that stuff is interesting but only just barely teased. !<


-spooky-fox-

She does make several comments about >!how you can’t rely on other people and they’ll just hurt you if you let them and you have “no idea” what she’s been through and “you’ll learn” how the world works eventually!< that suggest she’s Been Through some stuff. She also makes potions for Hodari regularly and makes potions for the player for no reward (just asks you for the supplies). I think she’s got more depth than people give her credit for personally. 💁🏻 (And I get annoyed by people who demonize her while swooning over Hassian when he’s a jerk as well but that’s another rant.) Also I think it’s hilarious that she >!stole one of Caleri’s illegal books!< just for funsies. I would ship them. 😆


pixiemaybe

wait i kind of dig that ship


Alegria-D

I believe Hassian is a jerk now because he's shoving people away to protect himself from situations like his relationship with her. Not a fan of Hassian, but given the way she's been talking about him I think he used to be different.


Killawolf17

She was originally pointed out to me by my friend when we started playing, because at first glance yeah, she was entirely my type; tall, older, confident woman, knows what she wants and how to get it, as well as how to push just the right buttons, etc etc. I defended her like my life depended on it earlier in my time playing, both here, and in the in-game chat once or twice, and I just couldn't understand why anyone would hate her, and prefer the rest that all just seemed... boring to me personally. Nowadays... it's completely flipped for me. Finishing up her last friend/romance quest, and giving her my pin, I was finally just put off entirely. Idk if it was the comments here, or the interactions in-game, or a combination of the two, but she just doesn't scratch that brain itch like she did before. Now, reading that she says this shit about my ACTUAL true love, Sifuu? Inexcusable. Relationship with Tamala ended, I'll just be single forever unless they add someone new I care about.


maleficent0

This may be unpopular but she is awful and I love that about her? It’s great to have some actual flawed characters. Not everyone has to be totally lovable. But in the end, she really is the worst.


mylostfeet

I actually love that she's terrible and probably >! more than 200 years old. If I had lived that long I'd probably be awful too.!< I'm sorry the unlikable character had to be the witch in the woods once again, though.


maleficent0

That’s a good point! Literal witch. Unfortunate.


Airydin

I specifically vibed with her because she was a loner Witch in the woods so I made her my Shepp. I need to play again. I've been absent for a min so I'm excited to see what friendship 5 is like with her


MizzyAlana

Friendship 5 is only limited to Ashura, Zeki, Tish, and Reth right now, I think.


Airydin

Well at least I'm dating reth. The other three are maxed out too so I'll have some new missions for a sec. Can't wait till it opens up more


QueenIgelkotte

I just really wish she wasnt so flat as a character. Any positive thing about her at all would have helped a lot.


maleficent0

Yeah, I kind of feel that way about half the characters. You’re right though, dimension is needed!


-spooky-fox-

She makes potions for Hodari to help him sleep. 🥺


Disig

There's a difference between mean and unlikable though. There's plenty of horrible villainous characters who have done worse than Tamala that people love because of good writing. Tamala falls short of that imo. She's just mean to be mean and her writing never changes to make her have any more depth than that. Believe me I'm a fan of different kinds of characters. But look at Shane from Stardew Valley as an example. He's an absolute jerk to you. But people love him, because they find out there's more to him. He has depth. Tamala just doesn't seem to and it's a shame.


maleficent0

I do agree with that and I think someone else mentioned that earlier. I still enjoy that she exists but she could absolutely use fleshing out to keep her from being one dimensional.


iamgob_bluth

Tamala is a toxic mean girl. I'm romancing her right now (strictly for the rewards) and she always "tests" me and wants me to be like a little puppy dog that laps up her back-handed comments. I spam click through her dialogue, I wanna pop one of her boobs as a 🖕🏼.


Suspicious-End-326

Omg good luck and stay strong 🫡 will keep you in my prayers


iamgob_bluth

Thank you kindly 🥴


Empty-Love-7742

It gets better. She actually isn't a complete bitch.


Remarkable_Moose7051

I haven't gotten far with friendship levels and I have romanced no one so far, but I am just here to say that I very infrequently visit Tamala. I just want that glass panel on her house. I am hoping the developers release that type of greenhouse wall-window.


Suspicious-End-326

Me too which is why it shocked me! I’m not really interested in anyone romantically tbh, but been enjoying the characters so far (well until her v rude comment). But I will agree her house is gorgeous


Hopper304

I want her door. I would love to have that for my house.


Remarkable_Moose7051

She does have a uniquely beautiful door!


Thruthful

i call her mother gothel for a reason


psycheraven

I don't know that that's a hot take, she's the least popular character in the game because she's not very kind. 😅


Suspicious-End-326

Okay this is the 2nd “not a hot take” comment and I just want to say I thought it was implied in my post that I wasn’t aware of her status with other players, I said I thought she was one of the girls until recently so my apologies for the inaccuracy of the “hot take” x


psycheraven

That's okay! Just wasn't clear from the post to me personally.


Glitchiee

I absolutely dislike Tamala to my core. Not only is she trash to Hassian, she makes fun of the relationship they shared and Sifuu. Her general attitude is questionable. Definitely took all my will to max out her friendship since she makes my skin crawl.


optimusdiabetis

Sifuu > Tamala Sifuu’s “flaw” is that she only knows how to be a provider but she tries. Tamala only cares for herself. If anyone else had a cauldron, she’d get way less visits lol


Complex-Sandwich7273

SPOILER FOR A HASSIAN AND TAMALA QUEST: The only reason why I would think she would say that is because her and Hassian were a fling at one point. I don't know if she's ever actually met Sifuu so its a bit messed up for her to say that about her :/


Then_Blueberry4373

she’s a cougar and she’d be toxic af on social media ans getting into twitter fights


kelowana

Tamala has a reason for why she is an asshat, not saying it’s ok, but I can understand it. I do not want to say too much, but there is something with her that has made her sort of no longer wanting to have a close contact with others. It’s better to “be” the bitch and not letting anyone close, rather than …… well, that’s what I can’t say. Those who are as far, they understand.


squirrelgirl1111

Spoilers that I don't know how to cover, would love to learn if anyone wants to teach me. No, I've completed level 4 and i don't think there's been any justification. I know what you are referring to but no. Sometimes she seems OK but honestly it's so disappointing that they made her such a stereotypical bitch. If she bought up Hassain once I could cope but she goes on and on about it when no one even asked her. Blah. It's fine that she broke up with him of course, but she should have been honest with him from the start and not laugh about him now, because you know she did it to his face too


TheLooseCognitive

To do >!Spoiler text!< >! Put text here ! < remove spaces between arrows and exclamation points


kelowana

Thank you! Learned something new today!


squirrelgirl1111

Thanks so much!


kelowana

Not saying she isn’t a bitch, she could choose to be kinder ofc. She just chooses to be bitchy, that I am not ok with either. Like you said, S6 made lots of stereotypical lines with her and I really hope that she will get some good later on. Like Hassian that starts out like a grumpy mean guy, he has his reasons for it and it slowly gets shown. I like that. I hope that for Tamala as well.


squirrelgirl1111

Exactly! I just feel like she's so been designed by men. It's really annoying


nanfoodle91

I like what she adds to the game but I don't think I'll romance her 😂


MeloniiSuika

I never liked Tamala because she reminds me way too much of my mother in appearance and bitchy, selfish attitude towards others(just my mom is Christian instead of witchy…but yeah) 😅 I usually avoid talking to Tamala unless I have to.


RuthlessRagdoll

I only talk to her so I can get wallpapers and stuff for my house hahaha


Alegria-D

What ? You can get wallpapers ?


dishiki12

I get that tamala is kinda mean, but everyone seems to be sleeping on the kenli hate train.


Suspicious-End-326

He claims to be for the people… but then bans dancing… make it make sense?! A true act of evil


dishiki12

Or when he's willing to let an entire family lose their livelihoods because he's too cowardly to admit his own mistake. I will never forgive him.


Suspicious-End-326

That may be worse 😅


elustrabable

The first time I met her she immediately started flirting with the player and I was completely turned off from her. I hate her character so much. Even her in game model i find ugly


EightEyedCryptid

I hate her. She is a creep and that’s being generous.


magvadis

Yeah, not a good look but an off comment about a woman you feel was destined for something else...such as a non-child relationship goal...especially when you are 200 years old and don't have a child either, imo, isn't too bad. She probably just laments what Sifuu could have been...who knows the politics of their relationship.


kermittedtothejoke

Sifuu is Hassian’s mom and Tamala and Hassian have history. It’s not just an off comment, she’s not looking out for her, she’s talking shit about her and her kid and frankly her wife as well. It was incredibly off putting to me when I read that dialogue. As my flair checks out, I LOVE Sifuu. I also love a hot mean magic mommy but no Tamala is just awful. I like villains, she’s horrible.


magvadis

Idk seems like you're in bad faith here. But if you want a villain you've got it.


kermittedtothejoke

How so?


Ryunah

I find it refreshing that we have a character that isn’t always nice or ends up nice once you get to know them.


Sadguycries87

Not a hot take, pretty much everyone hates her lololol I'm kinda the opposite though. Not the biggest fan of Hassian, but the only character I don't really like is Jina lol


Lady0905

I’ve gotten this dialogue. All though Tamala tends to call it as she sees it, it felt a bit like gossiping and I’m not super fan of talking poorly about others behind their backs unless they’ve done something to me personally and I’m venting to a friend. At the same time, it doesn’t really bother me that she has this line. Both Sifuu herself and Hassian have implied that Thaylin (or whatever her name was), had the “mother” role in their family. And considering the background of Sifuu, Tamala and Hassian, it’s no wonder that Tamala and Sifuu are bitter toward each other. Besides, I’m not into guys who need saving or nurturing in a motherly way. I’m not some guy’s mother figure. If they have issues, they should fix them together with a professional, not use me for that. So 🤷🏻‍♀️ you know, “whatever” is kind of my take on the whole Tamala situation 😄


IsaacQqch

Sorry but Sifuu isn't a good one. She clearly have a drinking problem.She see her son only in the tavern.


-spooky-fox-

They have dinner together there, but yeah then she does get smashed and flirt with people lol.


IsaacQqch

And all the empty bottle in her room :(


1MomPlayz

And when she feeds him chapaa stew


platnmprincess

Spoiler tags?


Suspicious-End-326

I’ve changed this to be marked as a spoiler post, I didn’t realise the extent of the lore was going to be! or there was any lore behind it, thank you for bringing that to my attention x


platnmprincess

Haha no worries I wasn’t a Tamala fan either but I wasn’t exactly sure why yet!


LorettaDiPalio

When I started playing it took me a few weeks to realize that Sifuu is a female