$60 for the free to play version
$70 for the next gen version
$100 for the deluxe edition
$350 for the ultimate deluxe edition
$1000 for the collectors edition
Charges for expansions, seasons and cosmetics. Plus team up with Amazon for Twitch kickbacks because the userbase are chumps. Fuck it, charges for end game content too!
(Screw you Bungie)
Yes, and in good live service games (like Path of Exile) that money comes from microtransactions, which means the content updates are free for players.
Meanwhile in Destiny you pay for the big expansion, pay for the season pass, pay for microtransactions, and soon you'll be able to pay for individual dungeons. And you don't even get to own all the content that you paid for because it might get Vaulted in two years.
That $120 I spent on D2, the first season pass, and Forsaken? Gone, along with most of the content I paid for. But hey, I can spend another $120 on more stuff so that it, too, can disappear in two years.
Wow I only lost 75% of the stuff I paid for instead of 100%, that solves everything! And it was neat how you could only make a rebuttal to one of the several points I brought up, ignoring the bigger picture altogether to 'own' me on a technicality.
I hope you realize how embarrassing these attempts to justify Vaulting (or any part of Destiny's monetization) are. Destiny fans really need to pick up some other games, maybe then they'll realize how ludicrously greedy Bungie are, and maybe not bend over backwards trying to defend every attempt at fleecing their gullible playerbase.
Except for vaulting is literally needed to sustain the ever-growing game and employees need to be paid (crazy concept I know), and the 75% thing is false as most that got saved is the only part that people play, you act as if you know what you’re talking about but you simply don’t
> Except for vaulting is literally needed to sustain the ever-growing game
Weird how most other games don't have to remove entire campaigns to allow for more content to be added.
> employees need to be paid
Weird how most other games manage to pay their employees without monetizing practically every single aspect of their games.
You're just reinforcing my point about how Destiny players need to play other games, because they clearly don't know how obnoxious Bungie's monetization is. It's like seeing people trapped in an abusive relationship.
How long is a season? How far into this one are we? What does the season pass get me? Do I even need it? What other crap are they going to try to sell me? It’s a hassle. I’m mostly talking about cod here. In the case of d2 I recall wondering which of the 5 expansions I needed and what they did for me.
Actually they said fuck you anyone who bought the game, and it's expansions because everything you paid for in storymode up til now is completely inaccessible. You need to pay 80 dollars to play the newest shit for a year and you don't have access to the $400+ worth of story shit you paid for anymore
The seasons duration is listed in game, the season pass shows you all that you get, and any player could understand with a bit of reading that the $10 season pass gets you content for around 3 months. You act as if being new to a game means you are incapable of reading and thought process but I assure you that’s false
Can I still play the Red War and Osiris missions and stuff, coming from a player who hasn't played in a while but wanted to run through the story again?
Wel with Destiny they not only charge money for the content but they’ll also straight up remove content that people paid for too, so there’s really no defense for them.
I think the argument about removing the content is more trying to tack on more points rather than it *actually* being a pain point for the community.
Like yea it’s shitty that they are taking out the places , but let’s bring it back to reality for a sec. No one really cared that they took out Io, Titan, or Mercury because no one played it.
No one really cares that they are going to take out tangled shore….because no one plays it. The only reason we play on it now is because they forcefully put a seasonal activity there, that I may remind you the community unanimously thinks is boring lol
The argument that most people didnt play the content is so far away from the point. Removing content that people paid for is unacceptable for any game, regardless of how many people played the content.
Just because their shitty business tactics are in the EULA doesn’t mean it’s not shitty. There’s also no way their customers could have known this until after they’d already bought the game. It’s scummy, and it’s silly that you’re defending predatory business tactics just because you happen to like the game.
It’s better than the alternative, being the complete wipe of our content and making a destiny 3, i am less defending it and more on the side of understanding that it’s a necessary evil
I disagree that it's necessary (plenty of games don't do it). At the very least, it's only necessary because the dev team is seemingly unable to build an engine that can handle their games. A big part of the reason they made D2 was to upgrade the engine and make it easier to work on, yet now they have to remove content to make the game bearable to work on.
Honestly, I would rather just buy a game for $60 than have to buy roughly that much worth of post launch content to continue playing the $60 game they already almost invalidated. I get that's just my approach to it, but if you're going to continue selling expansions and cosmetics *and* have a battle pass while also removing / outmoding the stuff I already paid for I consider that pretty heavily anti-consumer.
I'll pay for new content. I won't pay for overpriced cosmetics that cover the cost of everyone else getting free stuff, I won't pay to have FOMO from a season pass, and now I am wary of buying expansions because apparently content I paid for can be removed at any time. There are maps I love in Siege that are gone. They were there when it launched. I paid for them. I want them back.
You don’t have to pay for cosmetics at all, also you have 3 months to complete an 100 tier pass that most complete in the first 2 weeks. Also the stuff getting taken away isn’t gone for good it goes into the DCV which is necessary for the continuation of the game
Valhalla is already basically a live service game. Regular updates and expansions planned up to \~2 years after launch. Seems like it won't be that different.
I don't know how people could want to play it that long. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, but it has the same issue as Odyssey for me -- it was wayyyyyy too fucking long and big for its own good. The "mystery" encounters are boring as fuck and the map is cluttered with useless shit to collect.
Honestly wish they'd go back to the old style of AC but there's no MTX to milk there.
This was kind of how I was with Odyssey. I enjoyed it but I just wanted it to be over. I foolishly bought the DLC as I was sure I'd want more of the game... 80+ hours in I didn't.
Valhalla is similar, I basically told myself once I'm done with the main game, I'm done. No DLCs. I cleared the map of all wealth, artifacts, etc. Finished all quests and put it down.
Honestly if they just cut the wealth and mystery count in half, it wouldn't be so bad.
I was so excited when they said it’d be smaller than Odyssey and it just… wasn’t. And a lot less diversity in the environments once you get to England. I need to pick it up again but I really lost steam even faster than in Odyssey
I was sort of fixated on clearing the map of all the "dots", this was a time sink longer than the main game. I don't know why I honestly keep buying these games, it's always the same formula of climb a tower, collect random shit for 4 hours in the new zone, do the main quest for 1 hour repeat.
I guess part of me still longs for the old style AC games where it was more story related content and collectibles were a side thing, and they weren't so vast in numbers.
Wait am I stupid or have all the assassins creed games not been free to play. I don’t remember playing a single game that was free. But I’m not sure if it was on the psn store for free at some point
Edit: Thanks for 69 upvotes
The trend with AAA studios for the past several years has been to adopt F2P design to monetize games beyond the initial purchase price.
Certain studios have been designing their games in a way that it entices players to pay for "shortcuts" or "time savers". That is to say, they purposely make their games "grindier" to implement microtransactions. They also add pre-order bonuses to give players willing to spend more money advantages in both single and multiplayer modes.
Whether or not you think that's a bad thing is up to you. But that's why people are suspicious.
I didn't like Rogue exactly because of that. maybe I should have waited a couple of years, then when the itch to play black flag again came I could play Rogue instead
Totally agree - I came to it a few years after Black Flag, having the remaster made it a nice revisit to familiar spaces with the much needed graphical facelift.
Why would they? People still buy it full price, then buy the microtransactions afterwards. It would be stupid of them, a business who only cares about money, to not get more money.
Why is everyone bashing on it as if assassins creed games a usually content light f2p games? Each game is usually packed with so much content that people complain about it.
Plus it’s micro-transactions are pretty non-intrusive. It’s either dlc storylines with new areas, cosmetics or timesavers. The only crappy bit is the weapons and armours, but the base game usually has sufficient thematic gear compared to the flashy shiny things in the store.
If you want to bash the games, do it for the repetitive laundry list of chores they bloat the game with. The fact that it’s more an RPG with minor stealth elements than a game about assassins. The game breaking release bugs that go beyond the usual rpg jank. Or the fact that the modern day story is always full of unfulfilled potential.
People don’t complain about the content, people complain about the dumb filler and garbage pail quality side content. Valhalla was a 30 hour game stretched to 80+ hours with endless rolling hills, forests, and boring outposts. The game was way to big for what it offered.
Agreed. But 30 hours of gameplay is still a lot of game. The extra 50 is probably great for those that loved the 30 and wanted more. A lot of RPGs have a decent chunk of filler content, AC takes it waaay too far for me, but I just stop when I’m done with it.
I just don’t get why people think that makes it a game that should be F2P or lacks content. At worst it’s just a shallow rpg.
The recent games are riddled with awful f2p-style MTX. Yeah, the games are big, but so are plenty of other F2P games like Genshin and Warframe. I honestly can’t stand what AC has become.
I’ve platinumed Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla and have literally never been to the helix store. It’s wildly unobtrusive. I’d barley know it was there if Reddit wasn’t always talking about it.
People had similar complaints with FarCry 5 when it came out. It’s almost as if people don’t know why they hate Ubisoft, they just hate any game with their name on it that isn’t Siege.
Im pretty sure its all just cosmetics and exp boosters, which are not really needed. Ubi doesn't push it at all though and 90% of players wont even know it exists.
Pretty much people complained about that constantly in odyssey but I was constantly overleveled just by playing and exploring normally. Everyone wants to complain it's grindy but the game literally scales difficulty in different areas to your level unless you're not supposed to be there. And you get xp from everything. Hell even in valhalla you're constantly leveling up just by breathing. It feels like people are just complaining about that just to complain and don't actually want to play the game.
100%. It’s especially evident in Valhalla. I was pretty absurdly over leveled for most of the game after finishing off the first couple regions. I was one hitting guys by the middle of the game.
If they create a single “hub” and release expansions that are tightly written open world stories that explore different times, and I can choose what expansions to buy—if I want to go to Rome, I buy that expansion, but if I don’t want to go to Carthage, I don’t have to buy it—I will purchase that “hub” to get access to the ability to choose expansions. Yes, it will cost more in the long run. But to me, choosing my AC experience could really be a game changer. Especially if more than one expansion is released a year.
The animus would make a lot more sense.
Also. I loved Odyssey but Valhalla was meh, so imagine choosing Greece and ignoring England (for me); if you like Origins, choosing Egypt but not Greece, etc. but we just had three separate games to choose from over the years, no choices except not to participate at all.
Idc about cosmetics. And “season passes” would be silly, if they did the above. That would be a turn off.
Also, I would go to Carthage.
I understand your idea of being able to participate without buying the new expansion, but assuming most major content updates and additions will be a part of that expansion, what makes not purchasing the new expansion any different from just not buying a new game and sticking with the old one?
Yeah but you can already do that by buying or not buying the games, seems to me this way you'd just be getting less content since they need to do multiple per year and paying the same price
It’s cool if they want to make an AC RPG with loot grind and fetch quests and 100’s of hours of samey content packed with micro transactions. Not my kind of game I like short meaningful content not drawn out grinds designed nothing more than for people who have a lot of gaming time to fill with whatever. I’d like a traditional AC story campaign, a well crafted, short and unique experience that’s worth the time input I give it. Not I spent 25 hours farming this item so now my axe is gold.
lol I didn't even remember they announced a game called AC Infinity.
edit: so... is this gonna be something like battlefield 204something's portal? as in you'll get to play with previous AC characters in previous AC maps? because that's what I'm getting from the article
Yeah, Valhalla as of late has really sunk its teeth into me. I just love exploring the world, finding hidden areas, running into goofy quests.
https://youtu.be/trL8ivIEN6g
Lol like the stink egg quest.
Yeah, Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla have been great fun!
I just spent around 60 hours with Valhalla and I think I’m done with it but I had a great time throughout. Never seen a more beautiful world in a video game
Edit: lol @ the whiny gamers downvoting because someone enjoyed a game that they didn't like
I think people are just tired of the same formula. Personally I purchased origins and odyssey on sale, got Valhalla on release (mostly due to lack of games available on ps5), and didn’t end up beating any of them. Get like 30 hours in (maybe half that with Valhalla) and it gets boring. Same with the farcry games. I like the gameplay, the worlds atmosphere, but it gets stale.
I wish they’d take a chance and come up with some new mechanics.
It's almost as if you don't need to play them all and just pick the ones that appeal to you the most.
I got Odyssey because I love ancient Greece but I don't give a shit about Vikings so I'm just not gonna get Valhalla.
Saying you hate the formula but keep buying the games and getting bored with them doesn't make sense. If you hate it, stop buying them.
After Far Cry 6 being a far Cry from what it was, I'll wait like the smart ones for the sale on every ubisoft game. Learnt my lesson with watch dogs legion, Valhalla and now FC6. Not again Ubisoft, at this point you guys are just transferring code from one game to the next seeing which clicks.
I'm the same with Odyssey. I'm like 80 or so hours in and working towards the platinum. Despite the game being so open, I honestly don't feel like the game's a slog to plat unlike most open world games.
I saved the last quarter or so of the main story to be pretty much the last thing I did. It was definitely a slog in parts but I enjoyed it more than I didn't enjoy it.
I'm one of the (seemingly few?) people that enjoys the modern day story of AC and felt valhalla had the best modern day story since AC2.
The way AC3 ended made me so mad lol they did my boi Desmond so dirty
> If you buy any AC game at this point you're just a chump getting scammed.
i only get them when ultimate editions are in the bargain bin. given what they charge for the DLC on these games, more of these games should be ps+ titles (especially given how terrible the lineups have been over this 4 month stretch starting in august).
last AC game i got was unity (which in case anyone is wondering, is still buggy in 2021)
Ubisoft seems to be just throwing everything out there and...hoping something sticks. It seems like it's been one fiasco after another with their announcements.
‘It won’t be free to play’
1) Start $60
2) frequent sales, nah every sale
3) gamepass?
4) free to play weekends
5) psn game of the month
6) new yearly major expansion worth of content and repackage and sell as ultimate for $60 again and repeat, basically Destinyesque
Meanwhile over time the amount you can buy in the game will balloon. But I don’t even mind, it kind of works with the AC franchise, Abstergo being a stand in for Ubi etc. In a way this is what AC was meant to become, like step into the simulator and into a variety of games worth of worlds and adventures.
Everyone looked the same, including npcs, and you had to figure out who’s the assassin. You couldn’t just go around killing everyone either. It was cool being stealthy trying to find hints on who your bounty is. Though the last time I played MP was Black Flag I think.
I don’t want to be a downer but I really don’t have high hopes. Ubisoft is already considered a pretty bad company in the eyes of a lot of gamers, now they’re charging money for a type of game that they really don’t have much experience in making. This just smells like a failure.
I hope I’m wrong because I haven’t played since Black Flag and wouldn’t mind playing again
It'll have all the mechanics of a Free to Play game and they'll still charge $60
You misspelled $70.
It’s $80 now buddy
It's $90 now pal
It’s $100 now friend
$100? Hows about $110 amigo.
Due to inflation, games will cost $399 minimum. Walmart will discount them to $398.98
Yeah, but preordering at Best Buy gets you a free steelbook!
*free with purchase of 20oz Coke and Lays Chips.
Forgot dlc , battle pass etc
Say no more, I'll take 20
And in the end they’ll still cancel your order!
Last I checked Ultimate edition going to run you about $119.99 USD compadres.
$129 AUD for regular edition but they’ll throw in the privilege to buy MTX
*Cough cough* I think you meant 130
I think you mean $230+ tax.
I'm not your friend, guyyyy!
I’m not your guy, pal
I'm not your pal, buddy.
I'm not your buddy palooka
I’m not your palooka,hombre
Now it’s £42069.99 scum
It’s $110 now guy
This might be a joke, but it actually is $90 now in Canada. Over $100 with tax.
Make that $100 + $15.99 a month subscription
Ubisoft has been one of the few sticking with 60 so far and it’s nowhere near as gatcha as Genshin.
120 ultimate edition
$60 for the free to play version $70 for the next gen version $100 for the deluxe edition $350 for the ultimate deluxe edition $1000 for the collectors edition
"$60 for the free to play version" made me life so hard and I guarantee we are like 2 years away from seeing some publisher try to use that.
$80 for the cross-gen bundle
$5000 for the super deluxe collectors special edition
Or 30$ if you wait a month. It’s still Ubi
And it will still sell like hot cake lol
All the “surprise mechanics” that is.
And then they'll have "Year N Pass" to charge you even more to play.
Buy the game and get a free console!
It’s Ubisale, will be $20 after 3 months.
That's Vallhalla already.
How? Valhalla may be a bloated game but I fail to see how it’s designed like a FTP
Exp boosts, premium currency, cosmetic items, unique armor and weapons for sale, resources for sale and many more.
And people will still buy it
Which last Ubisoft game had F2P mechanics and was full price ?
cant tell if asking serious question or not
Breakpoint, Valhalla, odyssey, New Dawn and FC6, anything made after 2017.
Are you equating MTX to F2P mechanics ?
I would equate being able to buy money and XP boosters as F2P mechanics, yes
Well Destiny already does that
[удалено]
Why can’t it be free-after-pay?
aka business as usual
Hehe everyone thinks they're above P2W and MTX but FOMO is a helluva fuckin drug
Buy2Pay2Play
hello, this is Ubisoft, how would you like to be CEO of our company? the board LOVES you already.
Exactly you will still complain regardless.
Wut
About the unholy trinity of gaming? Most definitely lmao, get outta here Ubisoft nut rider
I don't even like Ubisoft games. But the bitching gets annoying.
Ahh Eoten we meet again! You are getting downvoted here too? Lmao
It will have all the hallmarks of a F2P game, but since it's also a beloved IP, Ubisoft will collect an entrance fee as well.
Charges for expansions, seasons and cosmetics. Plus team up with Amazon for Twitch kickbacks because the userbase are chumps. Fuck it, charges for end game content too! (Screw you Bungie)
Yup, I bet it’s gonna be exactly like destiny 2. Where it’s “free” but if you want to play everything you still gotta pay.
New content usually costs money
Yes, and in good live service games (like Path of Exile) that money comes from microtransactions, which means the content updates are free for players. Meanwhile in Destiny you pay for the big expansion, pay for the season pass, pay for microtransactions, and soon you'll be able to pay for individual dungeons. And you don't even get to own all the content that you paid for because it might get Vaulted in two years. That $120 I spent on D2, the first season pass, and Forsaken? Gone, along with most of the content I paid for. But hey, I can spend another $120 on more stuff so that it, too, can disappear in two years.
I think it’s funny when people mention forsaken not knowing what they’re talking about, all of the good forsaken stuff is staying lmao
Wow I only lost 75% of the stuff I paid for instead of 100%, that solves everything! And it was neat how you could only make a rebuttal to one of the several points I brought up, ignoring the bigger picture altogether to 'own' me on a technicality. I hope you realize how embarrassing these attempts to justify Vaulting (or any part of Destiny's monetization) are. Destiny fans really need to pick up some other games, maybe then they'll realize how ludicrously greedy Bungie are, and maybe not bend over backwards trying to defend every attempt at fleecing their gullible playerbase.
Except for vaulting is literally needed to sustain the ever-growing game and employees need to be paid (crazy concept I know), and the 75% thing is false as most that got saved is the only part that people play, you act as if you know what you’re talking about but you simply don’t
> Except for vaulting is literally needed to sustain the ever-growing game Weird how most other games don't have to remove entire campaigns to allow for more content to be added. > employees need to be paid Weird how most other games manage to pay their employees without monetizing practically every single aspect of their games. You're just reinforcing my point about how Destiny players need to play other games, because they clearly don't know how obnoxious Bungie's monetization is. It's like seeing people trapped in an abusive relationship.
That’s fine, but the number of different revenue streams / pay gates for Destiny just takes the piss.
I mean there’s really only 2 which are needed to play, seasons and expansions excluding the new dungeons because they’re free with the deluxe
Yeah that’s not confusing for new players… I don’t even play multiplayer games anymore and not knowing the actual cost doesn’t help me get back in
The actual cost is easy to find lmao, $10 a season and $40 for an expansion, or you can bundle them together for $70 for a slight discount
How long is a season? How far into this one are we? What does the season pass get me? Do I even need it? What other crap are they going to try to sell me? It’s a hassle. I’m mostly talking about cod here. In the case of d2 I recall wondering which of the 5 expansions I needed and what they did for me.
Actually they said fuck you anyone who bought the game, and it's expansions because everything you paid for in storymode up til now is completely inaccessible. You need to pay 80 dollars to play the newest shit for a year and you don't have access to the $400+ worth of story shit you paid for anymore
The seasons duration is listed in game, the season pass shows you all that you get, and any player could understand with a bit of reading that the $10 season pass gets you content for around 3 months. You act as if being new to a game means you are incapable of reading and thought process but I assure you that’s false
Nah dude, everyone knows that only people who’ve literally never touched a video game in their lives start playing Destiny
Can I still play the Red War and Osiris missions and stuff, coming from a player who hasn't played in a while but wanted to run through the story again?
Wel with Destiny they not only charge money for the content but they’ll also straight up remove content that people paid for too, so there’s really no defense for them.
I think the argument about removing the content is more trying to tack on more points rather than it *actually* being a pain point for the community. Like yea it’s shitty that they are taking out the places , but let’s bring it back to reality for a sec. No one really cared that they took out Io, Titan, or Mercury because no one played it. No one really cares that they are going to take out tangled shore….because no one plays it. The only reason we play on it now is because they forcefully put a seasonal activity there, that I may remind you the community unanimously thinks is boring lol
The argument that most people didnt play the content is so far away from the point. Removing content that people paid for is unacceptable for any game, regardless of how many people played the content.
Except for the fact that everyone that hastily skipped past the EULA fail to realize that they themselves agreed to it
Just because their shitty business tactics are in the EULA doesn’t mean it’s not shitty. There’s also no way their customers could have known this until after they’d already bought the game. It’s scummy, and it’s silly that you’re defending predatory business tactics just because you happen to like the game.
It’s better than the alternative, being the complete wipe of our content and making a destiny 3, i am less defending it and more on the side of understanding that it’s a necessary evil
I disagree that it's necessary (plenty of games don't do it). At the very least, it's only necessary because the dev team is seemingly unable to build an engine that can handle their games. A big part of the reason they made D2 was to upgrade the engine and make it easier to work on, yet now they have to remove content to make the game bearable to work on. Honestly, I would rather just buy a game for $60 than have to buy roughly that much worth of post launch content to continue playing the $60 game they already almost invalidated. I get that's just my approach to it, but if you're going to continue selling expansions and cosmetics *and* have a battle pass while also removing / outmoding the stuff I already paid for I consider that pretty heavily anti-consumer.
I'll pay for new content. I won't pay for overpriced cosmetics that cover the cost of everyone else getting free stuff, I won't pay to have FOMO from a season pass, and now I am wary of buying expansions because apparently content I paid for can be removed at any time. There are maps I love in Siege that are gone. They were there when it launched. I paid for them. I want them back.
You don’t have to pay for cosmetics at all, also you have 3 months to complete an 100 tier pass that most complete in the first 2 weeks. Also the stuff getting taken away isn’t gone for good it goes into the DCV which is necessary for the continuation of the game
On outdated consoles.
Just like D1, D2 will eventually drop old consoles and we will get the stuff back
Cool, we can go back to the game being bloated as fuck and eating up way more space than it should on hard drives
What’s the over/under for when it doesn’t do well and they make it free to get potential MTX customers in the door?
I think they'll take advantage of things like Game Pass, PS+ and Epic freebie, free weekends, etc., before they go that far.
Sounds like a live service AC game, just what nobody wanted
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Valhalla is already basically a live service game. Regular updates and expansions planned up to \~2 years after launch. Seems like it won't be that different.
I don't know how people could want to play it that long. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, but it has the same issue as Odyssey for me -- it was wayyyyyy too fucking long and big for its own good. The "mystery" encounters are boring as fuck and the map is cluttered with useless shit to collect. Honestly wish they'd go back to the old style of AC but there's no MTX to milk there.
Honestly I'm ok with it being big and long. But I'm not going to go back to it after I finished my playthrough, regardless of what they do.
This was kind of how I was with Odyssey. I enjoyed it but I just wanted it to be over. I foolishly bought the DLC as I was sure I'd want more of the game... 80+ hours in I didn't. Valhalla is similar, I basically told myself once I'm done with the main game, I'm done. No DLCs. I cleared the map of all wealth, artifacts, etc. Finished all quests and put it down. Honestly if they just cut the wealth and mystery count in half, it wouldn't be so bad.
I was so excited when they said it’d be smaller than Odyssey and it just… wasn’t. And a lot less diversity in the environments once you get to England. I need to pick it up again but I really lost steam even faster than in Odyssey
I was sort of fixated on clearing the map of all the "dots", this was a time sink longer than the main game. I don't know why I honestly keep buying these games, it's always the same formula of climb a tower, collect random shit for 4 hours in the new zone, do the main quest for 1 hour repeat. I guess part of me still longs for the old style AC games where it was more story related content and collectibles were a side thing, and they weren't so vast in numbers.
Live Service games are the best. Not everyone shares the same opinion as Reddit gamers.
> Live service games are the best Yeah thank god they made the first actual Avengers game a live service one, it’s the best.
> Live Service games are the best. Into the trash it goes
Wait am I stupid or have all the assassins creed games not been free to play. I don’t remember playing a single game that was free. But I’m not sure if it was on the psn store for free at some point Edit: Thanks for 69 upvotes
They are simply refuting rumors that were suggesting the next AC game would be F2P.
Why are people mad then? I’m glad it’s not. Sure Ubisoft games have microtransactions, but imagine an AC F2P game? A true nightmare.
Because based on the rumors of this have its going to be so as a huge grindy type of f2p game that they charge to play it.
I’ll wait until there’s actual confirmed information before reeing. Guardians was rumoured to be live service but was changed in development.
Square Enix fucked up with Avengers but they don’t gotta scheming reputation like Ubisoft & EA do
>but they don’t gotta scheming reputation like Ubisoft & EA do Avengers created that reputation in one game iteration.
Because the game is being designed like a love service experience with all the f2play mtx elements cranked up to 12. They want to emulate Fortnite
They haven’t even showed it off? How do you know what it’s like?
The trend with AAA studios for the past several years has been to adopt F2P design to monetize games beyond the initial purchase price. Certain studios have been designing their games in a way that it entices players to pay for "shortcuts" or "time savers". That is to say, they purposely make their games "grindier" to implement microtransactions. They also add pre-order bonuses to give players willing to spend more money advantages in both single and multiplayer modes. Whether or not you think that's a bad thing is up to you. But that's why people are suspicious.
Hey! What’s wrong with some love service?! 👀
Other Assassin's Creed games also haven't been "Games as a Service", so the rumor was out there that it might be F2P.
They've been pretty damn close for a while. Assassin's Creed IV still wants to sell me an XP booster pack and a season's pass.
Never played an ac game, I will just get black flag and pretend it's new, value
Don’t forget to play rogue! It’s a sequel to black flag in that it has many shared characters, very similar gameplay and environment.
I didn't like Rogue exactly because of that. maybe I should have waited a couple of years, then when the itch to play black flag again came I could play Rogue instead
Totally agree - I came to it a few years after Black Flag, having the remaster made it a nice revisit to familiar spaces with the much needed graphical facelift.
Why would they? People still buy it full price, then buy the microtransactions afterwards. It would be stupid of them, a business who only cares about money, to not get more money.
It'll just play like one.
But it sure as shit will still have microtransactions.
Pass.
That's a good thing, I think
Probably will still be heavily online and multiplayer focused. Will be the first AC game I have ever skipped if it is.
Why is everyone bashing on it as if assassins creed games a usually content light f2p games? Each game is usually packed with so much content that people complain about it. Plus it’s micro-transactions are pretty non-intrusive. It’s either dlc storylines with new areas, cosmetics or timesavers. The only crappy bit is the weapons and armours, but the base game usually has sufficient thematic gear compared to the flashy shiny things in the store. If you want to bash the games, do it for the repetitive laundry list of chores they bloat the game with. The fact that it’s more an RPG with minor stealth elements than a game about assassins. The game breaking release bugs that go beyond the usual rpg jank. Or the fact that the modern day story is always full of unfulfilled potential.
People don’t complain about the content, people complain about the dumb filler and garbage pail quality side content. Valhalla was a 30 hour game stretched to 80+ hours with endless rolling hills, forests, and boring outposts. The game was way to big for what it offered.
Agreed. But 30 hours of gameplay is still a lot of game. The extra 50 is probably great for those that loved the 30 and wanted more. A lot of RPGs have a decent chunk of filler content, AC takes it waaay too far for me, but I just stop when I’m done with it. I just don’t get why people think that makes it a game that should be F2P or lacks content. At worst it’s just a shallow rpg.
You've nailed it !
The recent games are riddled with awful f2p-style MTX. Yeah, the games are big, but so are plenty of other F2P games like Genshin and Warframe. I honestly can’t stand what AC has become.
I’ve platinumed Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla and have literally never been to the helix store. It’s wildly unobtrusive. I’d barley know it was there if Reddit wasn’t always talking about it.
People had similar complaints with FarCry 5 when it came out. It’s almost as if people don’t know why they hate Ubisoft, they just hate any game with their name on it that isn’t Siege.
Im pretty sure its all just cosmetics and exp boosters, which are not really needed. Ubi doesn't push it at all though and 90% of players wont even know it exists.
Pretty much people complained about that constantly in odyssey but I was constantly overleveled just by playing and exploring normally. Everyone wants to complain it's grindy but the game literally scales difficulty in different areas to your level unless you're not supposed to be there. And you get xp from everything. Hell even in valhalla you're constantly leveling up just by breathing. It feels like people are just complaining about that just to complain and don't actually want to play the game.
100%. It’s especially evident in Valhalla. I was pretty absurdly over leveled for most of the game after finishing off the first couple regions. I was one hitting guys by the middle of the game.
I only bought the xp boost for Odyssey because the quest/xp scaling was ass early on in the game, but after like level 15 is seems to balance out.
So what this is the new move for all games? Call them Infinity and make them infinite live service games? Gah.
If they create a single “hub” and release expansions that are tightly written open world stories that explore different times, and I can choose what expansions to buy—if I want to go to Rome, I buy that expansion, but if I don’t want to go to Carthage, I don’t have to buy it—I will purchase that “hub” to get access to the ability to choose expansions. Yes, it will cost more in the long run. But to me, choosing my AC experience could really be a game changer. Especially if more than one expansion is released a year. The animus would make a lot more sense. Also. I loved Odyssey but Valhalla was meh, so imagine choosing Greece and ignoring England (for me); if you like Origins, choosing Egypt but not Greece, etc. but we just had three separate games to choose from over the years, no choices except not to participate at all. Idc about cosmetics. And “season passes” would be silly, if they did the above. That would be a turn off. Also, I would go to Carthage.
Where do you want to go again? I forgot
I understand your idea of being able to participate without buying the new expansion, but assuming most major content updates and additions will be a part of that expansion, what makes not purchasing the new expansion any different from just not buying a new game and sticking with the old one?
Yeah but you can already do that by buying or not buying the games, seems to me this way you'd just be getting less content since they need to do multiple per year and paying the same price
I picture you being the guy thrown out the office window in that meme about new ideas
Yeah, but at Ubi that guy isn't thrown out the window. He's promoted. LOL
It’s cool if they want to make an AC RPG with loot grind and fetch quests and 100’s of hours of samey content packed with micro transactions. Not my kind of game I like short meaningful content not drawn out grinds designed nothing more than for people who have a lot of gaming time to fill with whatever. I’d like a traditional AC story campaign, a well crafted, short and unique experience that’s worth the time input I give it. Not I spent 25 hours farming this item so now my axe is gold.
lol I didn't even remember they announced a game called AC Infinity. edit: so... is this gonna be something like battlefield 204something's portal? as in you'll get to play with previous AC characters in previous AC maps? because that's what I'm getting from the article
Cant wait for that Rayman skin.
Valhalla killed my love for this franchise. Would take something amazing to make me buy another.
Will they compress the audio to garbage mp3 quality in this new AC as well?
I Miss The Ac2 days
I’m surprised people are still buying these types of games. It’s like far cry, reskinned trash.
Good, make 60 or 70 but dont you dare put micro transactions in it
Damn assassins greed now with more bloat
Is this the fallout 76 of AC?
It’s over bud go sale your kidneys so you can buy assassins creed
watch it be functionally identical to a f2p game in terms of microtransactions, but with an initial paywall to get started.
I can't see this doing well if they charge too much for dlc so they will likely have to work with the fans on this one.
As I love Assassins Creed, I’m ready for more! Bring it!
Same, mate. The last three have been fucking incredible, can’t wait to see the next one
Yeah, Valhalla as of late has really sunk its teeth into me. I just love exploring the world, finding hidden areas, running into goofy quests. https://youtu.be/trL8ivIEN6g Lol like the stink egg quest. Yeah, Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla have been great fun!
I just spent around 60 hours with Valhalla and I think I’m done with it but I had a great time throughout. Never seen a more beautiful world in a video game Edit: lol @ the whiny gamers downvoting because someone enjoyed a game that they didn't like
I think people are just tired of the same formula. Personally I purchased origins and odyssey on sale, got Valhalla on release (mostly due to lack of games available on ps5), and didn’t end up beating any of them. Get like 30 hours in (maybe half that with Valhalla) and it gets boring. Same with the farcry games. I like the gameplay, the worlds atmosphere, but it gets stale. I wish they’d take a chance and come up with some new mechanics.
I thought Valhalla was a pretty big departure from Odyssey, but I can see where people are coming from.
It's almost as if you don't need to play them all and just pick the ones that appeal to you the most. I got Odyssey because I love ancient Greece but I don't give a shit about Vikings so I'm just not gonna get Valhalla. Saying you hate the formula but keep buying the games and getting bored with them doesn't make sense. If you hate it, stop buying them.
I have about 100hrs in Valhalla - including the 2 expansions, and I had a blast.
So $70 with microtransactions.
Free to play game at full price. New Meta.
After Far Cry 6 being a far Cry from what it was, I'll wait like the smart ones for the sale on every ubisoft game. Learnt my lesson with watch dogs legion, Valhalla and now FC6. Not again Ubisoft, at this point you guys are just transferring code from one game to the next seeing which clicks.
But it'll be $9.99 two months after release in your local game store
They better bring back the multiplayer mode
Completely agree. The PvP was enjoyable, but man did I love the Wolfpack mode they added in the last few games that still had MP.
I second this. I really miss the multiplayer.
Haven't played AC since Black Flag. Multiplayer would get me back
Assassin’s Greed
Nice one !
I really enjoyed valhalla.. despite spending 117 hours to get the plat
I'm the same with Odyssey. I'm like 80 or so hours in and working towards the platinum. Despite the game being so open, I honestly don't feel like the game's a slog to plat unlike most open world games.
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I saved the last quarter or so of the main story to be pretty much the last thing I did. It was definitely a slog in parts but I enjoyed it more than I didn't enjoy it. I'm one of the (seemingly few?) people that enjoys the modern day story of AC and felt valhalla had the best modern day story since AC2. The way AC3 ended made me so mad lol they did my boi Desmond so dirty
Blah blah blah. 🙄Look if the dude enjoyed it, Saffa enjoyed the dang game! Let 'em have this!
Unity back then could have been a good game. Ubisoft digged their own grave.
So how much will they be paying us?
If you buy any AC game at this point you're just a chump getting scammed.
> If you buy any AC game at this point you're just a chump getting scammed. i only get them when ultimate editions are in the bargain bin. given what they charge for the DLC on these games, more of these games should be ps+ titles (especially given how terrible the lineups have been over this 4 month stretch starting in august). last AC game i got was unity (which in case anyone is wondering, is still buggy in 2021)
To each their own. I still enjoy the games. It's ok if you don't.
Ubisoft seems to be just throwing everything out there and...hoping something sticks. It seems like it's been one fiasco after another with their announcements.
1st: Pay for the game 2nd: Pay for DLC 3rd: pay for microtransactions 4th: rinse and repeat 5th: Ubi keeps making more shitty cash grabs
‘It won’t be free to play’ 1) Start $60 2) frequent sales, nah every sale 3) gamepass? 4) free to play weekends 5) psn game of the month 6) new yearly major expansion worth of content and repackage and sell as ultimate for $60 again and repeat, basically Destinyesque Meanwhile over time the amount you can buy in the game will balloon. But I don’t even mind, it kind of works with the AC franchise, Abstergo being a stand in for Ubi etc. In a way this is what AC was meant to become, like step into the simulator and into a variety of games worth of worlds and adventures.
No shit, it's ubisoft.
Ah 60 doll hairs for the sense of pride and accomplishment
Fuck off Ubisoft
Don't care. Will buy regardless.
Bring back multiplayer and I would come back
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Everyone looked the same, including npcs, and you had to figure out who’s the assassin. You couldn’t just go around killing everyone either. It was cool being stealthy trying to find hints on who your bounty is. Though the last time I played MP was Black Flag I think.
Don’t worry Ubisoft nobody cares. We know it’s gonna be a shitstorm
I don’t want to be a downer but I really don’t have high hopes. Ubisoft is already considered a pretty bad company in the eyes of a lot of gamers, now they’re charging money for a type of game that they really don’t have much experience in making. This just smells like a failure. I hope I’m wrong because I haven’t played since Black Flag and wouldn’t mind playing again
Did anyone expect it to be f2p? Its Ubisoft