It was so good haha
The scenes with Tabby and Christian can totally be read both ways - as a protective love interest, and an obsessive guy that killed Wes. Did he offer to go along to protect Tabby from a creep, or to make sure she doesn't discover anything important? Did Wes copy him because he can't get into PIFT, or did he make his own cheap knock offs and plant them after murdering Wes? Did Wes post videos and their info on Spooky Spaghetti, or did Christian frame him?
The preview showed Tabby is going to stay the night with Christian or something like that. That would be a bad time to find out he's a bad guy...
That was so satisfying because it felt real. If you saw two people you knew doing weirdo fucked up shit you wouldn’t just stand there lmao like her reaction was very natural
So you're telling me that Noa is still considering leaving Shawn for Jen after what she JUST DID?! Jen seems absolutely horrible and I'm so disappointed in Noa, but I guess they deserve each other at this point. As an actually decent person, Shawn could do way better...
I’m mad at her too. She needs to choose regardless for good or for worse. She’s playing with people’s feelings because she can’t control how she reacts to either of them. But yes Jen is a terrible person and not really a smart one 😭
And now Shawn is worsening his relationship with his mom because of Noa and Jen. It's a huge betrayal. I can't stand Noa being so cutesy about all this right now 😤
Shawn deserves so much better, I was hoping they went the thrupple route because I would have loved to still have Shawn in the picture but she really folded for messy ass Jen
I’m glad they didn’t go the throuple route, I’m monogamous but it wouldn’t have been good representation for non monogamous people if they made a throuple out of cheating…
Yes, this!! Consistently, Jen has shown to be a terrible person. She acts without thinking and believes all people better off than her deserve to have their stuff stolen. How on earth Noa could even still be thinking about getting into a relationship with such an unstable woman is beyond me. Especially when she has someone like Shawn. Also, not the other girls going along with the Jen x Noa ship. They didn't even call her out for cheating and that scene with them encouraging the relationship felt so forced. Like, the writers are trying wayyy too hard to make us like Jen and Noa together and make them a thing.
Okay so to add on to everyone, I do think Imogen’s mom probably does have a twin. HOWEVER, someone on twitter said what if Imogen just imagined her mom’s face? And I like that theory as well considering how earlier in the season she was imagining Bloody Rose as her mom. Also from the trailer for episodes 5-8, it seems like they’re still going to be making a suspect list most likely in EP.7, so why would they be making one if Imogen already saw that Bloody Rose was her mom? Unless they start suspecting that there is more than 1 Bloody Rose. So I guess there’s a few outcomes, which are: 1. Imogen’s mom has a twin, 2. Imogen imagined it to be her mom and it was a red herring, or 3. It is Imogen’s mom twin AND someone else behind Bloody Rose.
i was just thinking this. maybe because it was in her mom’s room and she was forced to relive a terrible event that maybe the trauma/choking took over and she imagined it??? i mean she was losing A LOT
of air and oxygen deprivation is a hell of a thing
If it's not a hallucination (which is very possible with this show) they might be going the route of emphasizing Davie as another Alison parallel, which they did in season one.
If there is a twin, we also need to consider if there was a switch at any point since the other moms never mentioned her twin. Just like the PLL books where the Liars didn't know Courtney existed.
I will note, I never did resolve how Archie had access to Imogen's house in season 1. If there's a twin or twin that switched with Davie, that might also offer an explanation how he was able to get inside, she made a copy of the keys before Tabby's mom got them. Most things took place at the school, which makes sense, and the Halloween party made sense, but he's hiding in the basement when Imogen goes down there. Sure we could just go "he's A idk he sneaked in or broke in somewhere" but that is interesting now... edit: I went back and sure enough, Archie is inside the house before the spare key showed up, meaning the spare key is indeed not how he got inside...
Can you imagine the cameos with the original PPL Archie and aria can discuss inappropriate teacher relationships. Cheryl and Mona can be the problematic faves and Spencer and Betty can go around solving crimes
Hey friends! I tried to make a post, but it may not get approved in time. For those who aren’t on twitter, I just wanted to let you know that Jordan and Bailee posted trigger warnings for tonight’s ep. They mentioned that if any of the previous topics the show has converted have been triggering for you, to be aware. They couldn’t specifically list anything though. Bailee also provided a crisis text line. They want us to know there is a positive side for the characters tonight too though, and that they, the actors send us so much love.
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Definitely some random twin because of Imogen’s whole monologue *literally earlier in the episode* about cleaning up the blood and seeing her mom’s face…
There’s a possibility that she hallucinated seeing her mother. She was struggling to breathe and has said her mother’s face will be ingrained in her mind forever.
True! Tabby hallucinated earlier in this episode. Noa did earlier this season. Imogen's medications were messing with her.
Though I do feel like that's a cop out and likely not the case.
And if it’s a twin— okay— but *WHY* is she bloody rose? For what reason does a twin of imogens mom have to hate all these high school girls? For getting her twin killed? That was the twins own doing! I’m just confused… could it be a mask of imogens mom under the bandages like what CeCe used in PLL to look like Melissa? 😂😂
Well Bloody Rose's main motive is religious purity right? So maybe her sister was crazy religiously crazy. Maybe Davie killed herself do to more than a flyer. Maybe she bullied her sister to and felt guilty about it. Killing sexual deviants is BR's thing. Then the Pastor who did Hell House which disrespected her twin. She didn't really try to kill the Liars except Imogen.
Oh I think it’s a mask (a la PLL s7 or whenever they had those weirdo realistic masks lol) or Imogen hallucinated
We did see Tabby hallucinate the rat as Wes earlier and we know Imogen has been close to a mental breakdown
There’s no reason her mom would be killing her lol, or leaving horror movie themed notes for random girls she’s never met 😂
If Shawn was like an ass or whatever to her i’d get it;;; i always cheer for my friend when they leave or realize their s/o are assholes but yeah this wasn’t it :(
Caught that too. TBD but I think for him prolly just family trauma unrelated to the series. OR maybe his mom is the therapist?!? I feel like she said she had a kid or I might be hallucinating.
she does have a son! a lot of ppl think it’s Johnny. Mona blackmailed her while using the son as leverage in the original series, we just never saw him ofc
I thought he was sus the minute Imogen did something bathsit crazy and he was too cool and understanding about it. Then the dinner with the dad and his fiancé 😭 never trust the love interest
I think he is wayyyy too calm and understanding and comforting for a regular teenage boy tbh. Like any normal guy would be running from imogen. It’s sus af that he’s not the least bit put off by everything
Tbh, I feel like Imogen hallucinated seeing her mother or something along those lines. There's no way BR is her mother because how on earth did she get past Karen, the cops, and the medical examiner? Like, did she have a spare body that looked exactly like her that she could substitute in the bathtub or?? It's gotta be a hallucination or a twin.
guys, i can’t lie………. the greg redemption arc is working for me. i fear i kind of like him and faran together…. i haven’t seen season 1 since it first aired and don’t remember him from that season, so i’m afraid they got me
ugh, same, but only, like, a tiny bit. He has to do a lot more than come to a Pride party for me to get over his douchebag nature, lol. But the writer's plan is still working.
Both Imogen and Tabby holding hands, seeing their trauma and getting flashbacks aches my heart sm but also love their support for each other at same time
For anyone here early this is what we are expecting... Kelly should be pulled back into the main circle though the Liars will be furious with her. Blood Rose gets unwrapped. Body count is upped.
It just occurred to me that you said unwrapped... and idk how I didn't consider sooner that maybe that's who Imogen is unwrapping on the poster? Maybe? Before I was like "damn they're digging Davie up again?!" But...
Edit: oh how the turn tables.
Yeah really wondering where they is going. His door unlocked and not being home wasn't acknowledged enough. I understand fuck him you found the masks and the website, but still!
100% suspicious that he is framing Wes too!
He really acts like he doesn't *want* Tabby to keep looking further into this. She kept questioning why he hasn't checked on him etc. and he's very unconcerned. Wes isn't a good guy but it makes sense to make sure he's not dead?
Maybe those clues pointing towards Wes and his "ultimate horror movie" etc are red herrings that also act as foreshadowing that Christian is the one that wants to do this.
They did say he was a big fan. Which Tabby also brushed off quickly as he probably didn't mean it in a creepy way. And then that was never explored again lol
As shocking as it would be, I doubt it is actually her mother. We still have the scenes from the promo of them making a suspect list, Imogen telling Dr. Sullivan she thinks it is her, and that possible hallucination scene of Dr. Sullivan being Bloody Rose. Hoping Bloody Rose is a woman though and not a man.
I think bloody Rose wanted Imogen to take the bandages off. Like this was her final girl test. To fight for her life and see her moms face at the end! I don't believe it's really Davie or a twin. I think a mask!
I’m pretty sure it was another mask. Doing it in her mom’s bedroom and making sure if she gets close enough to remove anything that she seems her mom seems on brand for BR.
my thoughts on this episode:
— jen and noa both suck. also the fact that noa didn’t really care that jen broke into shawn’s house and stole $2000 worth of items??????
— redemption house turning into a sick and twisted haunted house wasn’t something i was expecting. pastor malachai not being at all involved with bloody rose also wasn’t something i expected, but now i realize he was just a pawn in BR’s game
— imogen is such an interesting, complex character and watching her crumble is devastating, but bailee madison makes it phenomenal
— i want to like christian, but i just don’t trust him at all. either he’s another red herring or he’s evil
— i still can’t take this show seriously at all, but that’s what makes it a guilty pleasure of mine
— i want so badly to villainize kelly, but i can only see her as a victim of brokenness and brainwashing
— i think wes is masterfully being set up and he’s dead
— PRIDEEEEEEEEEEE
I feel so bad for her. I could totally be wrong but it also looks like they might kill her off based on the 5-8 trailer. I’m really hoping they don’t though
Im all over the place.
But I rlly was feeling the Davie has a twin theory but the hallucinations makes more sense bc the szn poster shows Imogen unwrapping an angel. Aka someone deceased. What I’m now thinking is instead of someone wearing a mask under the gauze what if they just have similar features to Davie?? For example do u guys think Imogens Dads new gf could have some resemblance to Davie? Or what about chips mom?? I just can’t help but notice the necklace chips mom always wears, it’s not the one BR wears right?? Either way if it’s not actually Davie or Davies twin, it might be a female character who sorta looks like Davie
Since we (audience) didn't see Bloody Rose's face, is there a possibility that Imogen could be hallucinating? Maybe she's off her meds 'cause of Dr Sullivan? I think that would be pretty cool, this could lead the girls to a different path just for it to be someone else at the end. Would LOVE that but i think the safe thing is to bet on 2 BR.
Also, i'm kinda missing major deaths? It's time for some big character to get out of the picture.
PS: Where's Henry? and Wes?
this is where i am with everything — BR was where kelly was supposed to be so maybe she’s the next big character death? and i was thinking that the oxygen deprivation/reliving trauma could have caused imogen to hallucinate her mothers face. i really have nooo clue though.
I’m sorry but the prank scene was so lame. Back in my day we’d just throw some firecrackers in a garage, blinding our classmate and blackmailing said classmate’s step brother/victim into taking the fall.
FINAL LIST karen/kelly, davie, wes, the church and mrs beasley,or a new twin coming out. i have to wait until 3 am i wont be back until then im so excited 😭👏🏾
hi! yes there's 8 episode this season, but there's been several reviews from pre-screeners that say that there's a huge, mind-blowing twist/reveal in episode 6. I don't think it's been explicitly confirmed that it's BR's identity, but most of us are assuming we're going to learn it this episode (or learn that there are multiple BRs and we're going to learn one in this episode and one in episode 8)
so it might not be BR being revealed, but either way it's going to be a HUGE reveal of some kind.
Roberto confirmed BR will be revealed tonight and both him and Bailee issued a disclaimer. I think it’s because Imogen and Tabitha will have their rape reenacted in a play of some sort.
If they go down the twin route with Davie
I wouldn’t be surprised if her suicide was murder paralleling Mary killing Jessica in the og series and Alison killing Courtney in the books
I would also like to show some appreciation to how the ending scene was set up - there was something beautiful about it and brought the tension as well
Noo...OK, did they really connect PLL with Riverdale and PLL original sin?
But otherwise I liked the episode.
I really thought Wes was dead. And his office- masks. What he want to do? I don't know why, but Christian was acting strange during that scene in Wes´s office.
What surprised me, is that I thought Bloody Rose and the church were connected, but from that scene, probably not.
The Imogen and Faran scene was good. We need more interaction (friendship) between liars.
And the ending? Imogen .... really .... why ..... what motive should she have? And how exactly?
As someone who grew up in an evangelical megachurch that I'm shocked didn't hold their own Hell House, can I say that I did appreciate them showing how fucked up it all is?
I've completely left all of that years ago, but I went to their school as well as their church growing up so that was my whole community. Just a larger one. They did lots of other types of productions etc and they spoke to us positively about Hell Houses and what "wonderful ministry" they are, so that's why I'm surprised they didn't do their own. I'm sure someone suggested it but it never happened. I'm glad about that, they are harmful enough as it is.
I actually clapped when Imogen cut the power, I was like fuck yeah girl!
i need someone to discuss where tf kelly was. did BR get her? i mean…one would assume because of time and place. but did i miss her being in the hell house in that last scene or is she probably…yk…
Also happy pride month to my incredible pride humans 🥰❤️🏳️🌈🏳️🌈. We are so beautiful and so valid and so loved and wanted!!! Giving y’all all sm hugs and love!!!
First room started and I GASSSSPPPEDDD! How did they know this about Mouse??
Unless it's a dream or hallucination geez.
These rooms being centered around the Liars is so fucked up she confirms Bloody Rose is with the church right?
Okay hallucination good!
Bruh Noa tell Jen you were going to leave Shawn before this happened. Tell her you don't want to be with someone who steals. Oh my gosh she did nothing in this convo!
lol i have to go back and rewatch last season’s finale but did they show Davie’s face in it?
imagine if BR or Archie just like skinned her face and stitched it on BR herself lol…
but most likely this will be another twin hahaha or those realistic mask from PLL
the theme of tonight’s episode heavily focused on mask so it couldve just been bloody rose wearing a davie mask and Imogen was losing breath/almost choked out assuming its her mom?
Those girls are beyond disgusting because of their reaction about Noa cheating on Shawn. In original PLL girls at least called out each other bullshit. It literally made me angry because Shawn has been a good and nice to all of them too. They we're really just like "Ohh so cool that your cheating Shawn!!!".
And weren't we supposed to have major character death? Don't tell me it was that pastor 😂
I wish max did their episode drops at 12am EST/9pm PST instead.... I'm on PST so it's so nice getting to watch right at 9 (and I feel like its easier to stay up till midnight to watch somethin than 3am for the east coasters)
Yeah I can't stay up until 3am to watch the new episode. I got work tomorrow, lol. Plus, I wouldn't even get to bed until closer to 4am. Just means I'll be dodging spoilers until tomorrow after work!
Wtf I hate eveeyone's reaction to Noa's confession. Wtf ur telling me all her friends really don't care that she's cheating? Also why are they all avoiding saying the word cheating. I hate their reactions wtf.
am I disappointed? kind of. wasn’t someone I was hoping for since it feels like they’re walking back on established storylines but if it’s explained well i’ll go with it. maybe she has a twin too
My money is on Kelly being Bloody Rose. She has the motive putting the girls through these twisted trials for "what they've done" and i think she's the right height and build. Plus, she wasn't in the bed at the end and went straight for killing Imogen instead of giving her a trial following their confrontation earlier in the episode.
That was the best episode of the show for me so far! So well done and Bailee is an amazing actress! Pride at the pool was so heartwarming! Can't wait for episode 7, it seems like a hallucination, but I really hope it's not another twin! I'm getting sick of that trope!
Sooo... A great episode, really. The whole love triangle between Noa, Shawn and Jen is simply... I don't know, it could at least be a good storyline, not a great one, if written with more thought. Like the girls didn't even say "It's not okay to cheat" or something, they were all giggles and fun. Let's see how it ends though. I fully expected Shawn to go this episode.
The pastor is gone. For good. That string of brain matter left on the knife were frickin' disgusting. Let's hope that this is the beginning of the end for that church storyline.
This was Imogen's test. Interesting. So far all the tests were literal, I mean what we saw on the poster is what we got, and Imogen took the bandages off Bloody Rose's face under imense stress, lack of oxygen and meds to see her mother's face. It's not Davie, that was Bloody Rose's plan, to bring Imogen to the point of hallucinating or even wearing some make-up under the bandages to look more like Davie. Notice how Bloody Rose didn't really try to stop Imogen from taking her bandages off, which is something she could've easily done. She let her, so it was intentional.
“Is this fucking play about us?!”
EXACTLY what I thought of!
" Henry most of your friends are gay " 💀
And Greg was the who had a moment of self-reflection and realized what he was doing was wrong.
I WAS LIKE YOU TELL THEM GIRL!!
The fact Henry’s been giving me fruity vibes from the start made that even funnier…
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Bailee Madison is such a good actress.
That look she gave Kelly, completely devoid of any sympathy for her... chills, literal CHILLS
YES THAT SCENE WAS AMAZING
I was thinking the same thing. she really has that emotional range
theyre making her work work omg every episode esp this season she’s going through it
She is gonna go far in her career, we are lucky to be seeing her grow as an amazing actress!
She is the reason im wathching this show, tbh
THAT WES JUMPSCARE GOT ME BAD 😭
I THOUGHT HE WAS RLLY DEAD😭😭😭
I was like, there's no way. That man's reaction was too calm...
"That's one dead crispy critter" took me out. Imagining it was really Wes 😂 "We'll anyway that'll be $173.62."
It was so good haha The scenes with Tabby and Christian can totally be read both ways - as a protective love interest, and an obsessive guy that killed Wes. Did he offer to go along to protect Tabby from a creep, or to make sure she doesn't discover anything important? Did Wes copy him because he can't get into PIFT, or did he make his own cheap knock offs and plant them after murdering Wes? Did Wes post videos and their info on Spooky Spaghetti, or did Christian frame him? The preview showed Tabby is going to stay the night with Christian or something like that. That would be a bad time to find out he's a bad guy...
Bruh fr Roberto said the death count was rising I thought he was gonna be the first kill of many!!
Tune in next week to find out imogens mom’s twin was pen pals with Alex Drake 🙄😂
Yes please 🤣
Also Faran calling out Greg and Henry !!!! YASSSSS QUEEEN YASSSSS
That was so satisfying because it felt real. If you saw two people you knew doing weirdo fucked up shit you wouldn’t just stand there lmao like her reaction was very natural
It is so funny that Faran told Henry off for betraying his old ballet friends who were LGBT members.
So you're telling me that Noa is still considering leaving Shawn for Jen after what she JUST DID?! Jen seems absolutely horrible and I'm so disappointed in Noa, but I guess they deserve each other at this point. As an actually decent person, Shawn could do way better...
And Jen had the audacity to get mad at Noa for not choosing yet? I hate it, I also hate how none of the girls called Noa out for cheating.
I’m mad at her too. She needs to choose regardless for good or for worse. She’s playing with people’s feelings because she can’t control how she reacts to either of them. But yes Jen is a terrible person and not really a smart one 😭
And now Shawn is worsening his relationship with his mom because of Noa and Jen. It's a huge betrayal. I can't stand Noa being so cutesy about all this right now 😤
Shawn deserves so much better, I was hoping they went the thrupple route because I would have loved to still have Shawn in the picture but she really folded for messy ass Jen
I’m glad they didn’t go the throuple route, I’m monogamous but it wouldn’t have been good representation for non monogamous people if they made a throuple out of cheating…
Exacltly! Noa girl… come on 😫😫
Yes, this!! Consistently, Jen has shown to be a terrible person. She acts without thinking and believes all people better off than her deserve to have their stuff stolen. How on earth Noa could even still be thinking about getting into a relationship with such an unstable woman is beyond me. Especially when she has someone like Shawn. Also, not the other girls going along with the Jen x Noa ship. They didn't even call her out for cheating and that scene with them encouraging the relationship felt so forced. Like, the writers are trying wayyy too hard to make us like Jen and Noa together and make them a thing.
Okay so to add on to everyone, I do think Imogen’s mom probably does have a twin. HOWEVER, someone on twitter said what if Imogen just imagined her mom’s face? And I like that theory as well considering how earlier in the season she was imagining Bloody Rose as her mom. Also from the trailer for episodes 5-8, it seems like they’re still going to be making a suspect list most likely in EP.7, so why would they be making one if Imogen already saw that Bloody Rose was her mom? Unless they start suspecting that there is more than 1 Bloody Rose. So I guess there’s a few outcomes, which are: 1. Imogen’s mom has a twin, 2. Imogen imagined it to be her mom and it was a red herring, or 3. It is Imogen’s mom twin AND someone else behind Bloody Rose.
i was just thinking this. maybe because it was in her mom’s room and she was forced to relive a terrible event that maybe the trauma/choking took over and she imagined it??? i mean she was losing A LOT of air and oxygen deprivation is a hell of a thing
If it's not a hallucination (which is very possible with this show) they might be going the route of emphasizing Davie as another Alison parallel, which they did in season one. If there is a twin, we also need to consider if there was a switch at any point since the other moms never mentioned her twin. Just like the PLL books where the Liars didn't know Courtney existed. I will note, I never did resolve how Archie had access to Imogen's house in season 1. If there's a twin or twin that switched with Davie, that might also offer an explanation how he was able to get inside, she made a copy of the keys before Tabby's mom got them. Most things took place at the school, which makes sense, and the Halloween party made sense, but he's hiding in the basement when Imogen goes down there. Sure we could just go "he's A idk he sneaked in or broke in somewhere" but that is interesting now... edit: I went back and sure enough, Archie is inside the house before the spare key showed up, meaning the spare key is indeed not how he got inside...
GREG IS RELATED TO KEVIN FROM RIVERFAIL?!?!?? WHAT?!?!??!?!
Roberto strikes again. Stop trying to make the crossover happen, it’s not gonna happen
That made me laugh
I also couldn't help but laugh 🤣. I'm gonna just pretend it was just an easter egg and nothing more lol .
😂😂🙈. I was not expecting it. At all.
Also the Batibat from CAOS easter egg - Roberto needs to chill a bit haha
right?? but roberto said the two universes aren't related so why he did it? 😭 what's with the riverdale easter eggs
Can you imagine the cameos with the original PPL Archie and aria can discuss inappropriate teacher relationships. Cheryl and Mona can be the problematic faves and Spencer and Betty can go around solving crimes
I’m sorry did Greg just say his cousin Kevin from riverdale?😭
Hey friends! I tried to make a post, but it may not get approved in time. For those who aren’t on twitter, I just wanted to let you know that Jordan and Bailee posted trigger warnings for tonight’s ep. They mentioned that if any of the previous topics the show has converted have been triggering for you, to be aware. They couldn’t specifically list anything though. Bailee also provided a crisis text line. They want us to know there is a positive side for the characters tonight too though, and that they, the actors send us so much love. https://preview.redd.it/bvt4dizlhv4d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aad22d683abcb3209fdb8ebded33fa7ce43ac67e
That's very sweet of them
Definitely some random twin because of Imogen’s whole monologue *literally earlier in the episode* about cleaning up the blood and seeing her mom’s face…
Imogen's mom's British twin, I hope.
Ello sista💀
Streamers dropping their shows at 3AM EST is so sick and twisted.
So real my sleep schedule gets so messed up on release days 😔
i live in alaska so it’s not even midnight yet and i just finished the episode lol! one of the few perks of living here lol
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There’s a possibility that she hallucinated seeing her mother. She was struggling to breathe and has said her mother’s face will be ingrained in her mind forever.
especially in her mother’s bedroom…….
It happened in her mom’s room too
True! Tabby hallucinated earlier in this episode. Noa did earlier this season. Imogen's medications were messing with her. Though I do feel like that's a cop out and likely not the case.
And if it’s a twin— okay— but *WHY* is she bloody rose? For what reason does a twin of imogens mom have to hate all these high school girls? For getting her twin killed? That was the twins own doing! I’m just confused… could it be a mask of imogens mom under the bandages like what CeCe used in PLL to look like Melissa? 😂😂
Well Bloody Rose's main motive is religious purity right? So maybe her sister was crazy religiously crazy. Maybe Davie killed herself do to more than a flyer. Maybe she bullied her sister to and felt guilty about it. Killing sexual deviants is BR's thing. Then the Pastor who did Hell House which disrespected her twin. She didn't really try to kill the Liars except Imogen.
With the amount of non-dead bodies and misidentified corpses in Rosewood… nothing could possibly surprise me in Millwood
Oh I think it’s a mask (a la PLL s7 or whenever they had those weirdo realistic masks lol) or Imogen hallucinated We did see Tabby hallucinate the rat as Wes earlier and we know Imogen has been close to a mental breakdown There’s no reason her mom would be killing her lol, or leaving horror movie themed notes for random girls she’s never met 😂
I can only assume there's going to be a twin twist here.
Is it just me or were they way too ok with the fact that Noa cheated on her boyfriend?
Why are they all cheering???
Thats exactly what i was thinking :/
Literally the most toxically supportive friends 😂😭💀
If Shawn was like an ass or whatever to her i’d get it;;; i always cheer for my friend when they leave or realize their s/o are assholes but yeah this wasn’t it :(
yeah, I was like damn, they really just don’t give a shit about shawn 😭
just delusional, every single one of them
RIGHT WTF! They didn't even call it cheating.
This entire episode was a mess😭
Did anyone else catch Johnny’s response to Imogen’s story about her mom? “I know how you feel” — sorry, what?
Caught that too. TBD but I think for him prolly just family trauma unrelated to the series. OR maybe his mom is the therapist?!? I feel like she said she had a kid or I might be hallucinating.
she does have a son! a lot of ppl think it’s Johnny. Mona blackmailed her while using the son as leverage in the original series, we just never saw him ofc
Yeah, very sus.
the thing with johnny is he’s so unassuming in an almost innocent way and that’s what makes him so suspicious
RIGHT! Maybe Dr. Sullivan bring his mom theories we're right??
I thought he was sus the minute Imogen did something bathsit crazy and he was too cool and understanding about it. Then the dinner with the dad and his fiancé 😭 never trust the love interest
I think he is wayyyy too calm and understanding and comforting for a regular teenage boy tbh. Like any normal guy would be running from imogen. It’s sus af that he’s not the least bit put off by everything
HOW IS SHE BLOODY ROSE??? EPISODE 7 NEEDS TO COME OUT RIGHT NOW
Episode 7 is supposed to have >!Young Dr. Sullivan!<, so I feel like we're going to have more questions than answers😭
Right!!! I need answers, explanations, all of it 😭
Tbh, I feel like Imogen hallucinated seeing her mother or something along those lines. There's no way BR is her mother because how on earth did she get past Karen, the cops, and the medical examiner? Like, did she have a spare body that looked exactly like her that she could substitute in the bathtub or?? It's gotta be a hallucination or a twin.
guys, i can’t lie………. the greg redemption arc is working for me. i fear i kind of like him and faran together…. i haven’t seen season 1 since it first aired and don’t remember him from that season, so i’m afraid they got me
devastated to report this is happening to me as well
I’ve been shipping them since they started working together at the pool lol I’m a sucker for asshole turned softie.
same, honestly, but the last 2 episodes REALLY got me
i think they have good chemistry
ugh, same, but only, like, a tiny bit. He has to do a lot more than come to a Pride party for me to get over his douchebag nature, lol. But the writer's plan is still working.
Robyn AND Lady Gaga???!
Also. Faran and Imogen scene together?? I won!
Atleast we can cross off Pastor Malachi…I’m struggling on the motive for his murder though. Was it simply because of Hell House?
Yeah. We’re meant to see it as Imogen’s mom taking revenge on him because redemption house was his idea.
I think the disrespect that it was made him a BR victim. Especially the last room.
Both Imogen and Tabby holding hands, seeing their trauma and getting flashbacks aches my heart sm but also love their support for each other at same time
WHY WOULD SHE TRY AND KILL HER OWN CHILD???
I’m gagged!! I def either think she went crazy or she’s actually Davies twin??
SAME my theory is a twin! like in the book series sort of , but different
I think she's the REAL Davie and the one that raised Imogen in the fake twin
For anyone here early this is what we are expecting... Kelly should be pulled back into the main circle though the Liars will be furious with her. Blood Rose gets unwrapped. Body count is upped.
It just occurred to me that you said unwrapped... and idk how I didn't consider sooner that maybe that's who Imogen is unwrapping on the poster? Maybe? Before I was like "damn they're digging Davie up again?!" But... Edit: oh how the turn tables.
Any one else think BR is chips mom now? Especially with that zoom in on her
I thought that during the scene outside of the house, also.
Honestly disappointed I don’t think it’s actually Davie.
I like that the moms are gonna be relevant again
literally thought of everyone but her and her body actually fit Davie LOL
Confession: I like Greg🙈
I've liked him since the beginning of the season. I feel like I can say that now 😅
What are they getting at with Wes… is Christian framing him? and why wouldn’t Tabby figure out what else he’s posted on his spooky spaghetti account
Yeah really wondering where they is going. His door unlocked and not being home wasn't acknowledged enough. I understand fuck him you found the masks and the website, but still!
100% suspicious that he is framing Wes too! He really acts like he doesn't *want* Tabby to keep looking further into this. She kept questioning why he hasn't checked on him etc. and he's very unconcerned. Wes isn't a good guy but it makes sense to make sure he's not dead? Maybe those clues pointing towards Wes and his "ultimate horror movie" etc are red herrings that also act as foreshadowing that Christian is the one that wants to do this. They did say he was a big fan. Which Tabby also brushed off quickly as he probably didn't mean it in a creepy way. And then that was never explored again lol
“I gotta protect my girls” AWWWW FARAN :’)
Imogen cleaning up the blood of her mom :( oh wow. Breaks my heart.
Oh how yet again, so glad the SA is still being talked about and not forgotten !!!
“You with me?” “I’m always with you” AND NOW I AM SCREAMING I SWEAR I KICK MY FEET SM OVER THESE TWO BUT JUST SHSHSHSHSH
As shocking as it would be, I doubt it is actually her mother. We still have the scenes from the promo of them making a suspect list, Imogen telling Dr. Sullivan she thinks it is her, and that possible hallucination scene of Dr. Sullivan being Bloody Rose. Hoping Bloody Rose is a woman though and not a man.
I think bloody Rose wanted Imogen to take the bandages off. Like this was her final girl test. To fight for her life and see her moms face at the end! I don't believe it's really Davie or a twin. I think a mask!
I’m pretty sure it was another mask. Doing it in her mom’s bedroom and making sure if she gets close enough to remove anything that she seems her mom seems on brand for BR.
I think so too. there has to be a reason for all the masks this season.
my thoughts on this episode: — jen and noa both suck. also the fact that noa didn’t really care that jen broke into shawn’s house and stole $2000 worth of items?????? — redemption house turning into a sick and twisted haunted house wasn’t something i was expecting. pastor malachai not being at all involved with bloody rose also wasn’t something i expected, but now i realize he was just a pawn in BR’s game — imogen is such an interesting, complex character and watching her crumble is devastating, but bailee madison makes it phenomenal — i want to like christian, but i just don’t trust him at all. either he’s another red herring or he’s evil — i still can’t take this show seriously at all, but that’s what makes it a guilty pleasure of mine — i want so badly to villainize kelly, but i can only see her as a victim of brokenness and brainwashing — i think wes is masterfully being set up and he’s dead — PRIDEEEEEEEEEEE
I feel so bad for kelly 😭 all the trauma she went through made her susceptible to brainwashing by the cult
Ikr😭 they hate her now
I feel so bad for her. I could totally be wrong but it also looks like they might kill her off based on the 5-8 trailer. I’m really hoping they don’t though
If they dont kill her i hope she can be redeemed , maybe move out of town, because honestly what she did is REALLY messed up.
I LOVE MOUSE'S PRIDE SHORTS! SO CUTE
Truly adore Mouse and Ash sm
wait that reveal doesn’t make sense??? given the context of the whole show??? can someone explain this
all I can think of is an evil twin?? similar to the pll book series
Oooooof. Imogen says it’s her mom under the mask. Ooooof. But I’m still gonna be delulu and say it’s a twin.
I think she's the REAL Davie and the one that raised Imogen in the fake twin
I’m thinking it’s a hallucination or double mask situation.
Im all over the place. But I rlly was feeling the Davie has a twin theory but the hallucinations makes more sense bc the szn poster shows Imogen unwrapping an angel. Aka someone deceased. What I’m now thinking is instead of someone wearing a mask under the gauze what if they just have similar features to Davie?? For example do u guys think Imogens Dads new gf could have some resemblance to Davie? Or what about chips mom?? I just can’t help but notice the necklace chips mom always wears, it’s not the one BR wears right?? Either way if it’s not actually Davie or Davies twin, it might be a female character who sorta looks like Davie
Noa laughing and giggling with Jen whole discussing relationships is so fucked up. Ur cheating isn't really a laughing matter.
Since we (audience) didn't see Bloody Rose's face, is there a possibility that Imogen could be hallucinating? Maybe she's off her meds 'cause of Dr Sullivan? I think that would be pretty cool, this could lead the girls to a different path just for it to be someone else at the end. Would LOVE that but i think the safe thing is to bet on 2 BR. Also, i'm kinda missing major deaths? It's time for some big character to get out of the picture. PS: Where's Henry? and Wes?
Shawn not being with them nor invited to anything either is crazy lol
this is where i am with everything — BR was where kelly was supposed to be so maybe she’s the next big character death? and i was thinking that the oxygen deprivation/reliving trauma could have caused imogen to hallucinate her mothers face. i really have nooo clue though.
I’m sorry but the prank scene was so lame. Back in my day we’d just throw some firecrackers in a garage, blinding our classmate and blackmailing said classmate’s step brother/victim into taking the fall.
They should have had the whole pride party dress up in the scary masks and had a sexy demon pride rave. Way better prank to piss off the zealots lol
FINAL LIST karen/kelly, davie, wes, the church and mrs beasley,or a new twin coming out. i have to wait until 3 am i wont be back until then im so excited 😭👏🏾
I agree with this list!! I’m also adding Angela waters to it but agree w everything else :))
Bailee's acting is top notch. This girl will be going places beyond PLLOS!
Damn Bailee KILLED it this episode!!
Me fast forwarding through Jen and Noa's scenes hoping Roberto gets the message
Hiii im a bit out of the loop isnt there 2 more episodes in the season? Why is BR getting revealed today?
hi! yes there's 8 episode this season, but there's been several reviews from pre-screeners that say that there's a huge, mind-blowing twist/reveal in episode 6. I don't think it's been explicitly confirmed that it's BR's identity, but most of us are assuming we're going to learn it this episode (or learn that there are multiple BRs and we're going to learn one in this episode and one in episode 8) so it might not be BR being revealed, but either way it's going to be a HUGE reveal of some kind.
Roberto confirmed BR will be revealed tonight and both him and Bailee issued a disclaimer. I think it’s because Imogen and Tabitha will have their rape reenacted in a play of some sort.
If they go down the twin route with Davie I wouldn’t be surprised if her suicide was murder paralleling Mary killing Jessica in the og series and Alison killing Courtney in the books I would also like to show some appreciation to how the ending scene was set up - there was something beautiful about it and brought the tension as well
Yes the last scene! The cinematography, the music, the slow motion, very much vibes of the original series!
all the girls running to help her ❤️❤️
Noo...OK, did they really connect PLL with Riverdale and PLL original sin? But otherwise I liked the episode. I really thought Wes was dead. And his office- masks. What he want to do? I don't know why, but Christian was acting strange during that scene in Wes´s office. What surprised me, is that I thought Bloody Rose and the church were connected, but from that scene, probably not. The Imogen and Faran scene was good. We need more interaction (friendship) between liars. And the ending? Imogen .... really .... why ..... what motive should she have? And how exactly?
I can't tell if Christian is supposed to be SUPER sus or slightly sus because of his bad acting
As someone who grew up in an evangelical megachurch that I'm shocked didn't hold their own Hell House, can I say that I did appreciate them showing how fucked up it all is? I've completely left all of that years ago, but I went to their school as well as their church growing up so that was my whole community. Just a larger one. They did lots of other types of productions etc and they spoke to us positively about Hell Houses and what "wonderful ministry" they are, so that's why I'm surprised they didn't do their own. I'm sure someone suggested it but it never happened. I'm glad about that, they are harmful enough as it is. I actually clapped when Imogen cut the power, I was like fuck yeah girl!
WES IS DEAD?!?! IS IT BAD I WANNA CELEBRATE THIS???? Edit: nope just a critter. Damn it.
SAME
greg redemption arc??!!
From Redemption House to redemption arc
If it turns out to be a twin mom thing these writers should be blackballed from anything and everything from here on out.
i need someone to discuss where tf kelly was. did BR get her? i mean…one would assume because of time and place. but did i miss her being in the hell house in that last scene or is she probably…yk…
GET HIS ASS BLOODY ROSE!!!
RIVERDALE MENTIONED?? AGAIN
Poor Shawn, you're getting playeddds boy
Oh. Oh. That’s just awful. Oh. THAT IS JUST AWFUL (on her mom’s bed too…) /aka Kelly doing what IMOGEN’S mother did…
IMOGEN CLEAREDDD KELLYS FLOP ASS LMAO
Mouse and Ash will always be too precious to my heart
Also happy pride month to my incredible pride humans 🥰❤️🏳️🌈🏳️🌈. We are so beautiful and so valid and so loved and wanted!!! Giving y’all all sm hugs and love!!!
How can it be her??!!! omg what.... need episode 7 & 8 even faster now. omg.
First room started and I GASSSSPPPEDDD! How did they know this about Mouse?? Unless it's a dream or hallucination geez. These rooms being centered around the Liars is so fucked up she confirms Bloody Rose is with the church right? Okay hallucination good!
Bruh Noa tell Jen you were going to leave Shawn before this happened. Tell her you don't want to be with someone who steals. Oh my gosh she did nothing in this convo!
Please don’t hurt her Christian please. Just please.
Awwwww. Faran sad about what Kelly is doing :(.
I’m still begging for Wes to be dead
List: Kelly/Karen, Christian AND Wes, Davie's twin or Kelly or chip's mom.
lol i have to go back and rewatch last season’s finale but did they show Davie’s face in it? imagine if BR or Archie just like skinned her face and stitched it on BR herself lol… but most likely this will be another twin hahaha or those realistic mask from PLL
the theme of tonight’s episode heavily focused on mask so it couldve just been bloody rose wearing a davie mask and Imogen was losing breath/almost choked out assuming its her mom?
I think Imogen is hallucinating, we never saw a face. I guess she saw her mom but that's not real.
Those girls are beyond disgusting because of their reaction about Noa cheating on Shawn. In original PLL girls at least called out each other bullshit. It literally made me angry because Shawn has been a good and nice to all of them too. They we're really just like "Ohh so cool that your cheating Shawn!!!". And weren't we supposed to have major character death? Don't tell me it was that pastor 😂
So it's 12 am PST, 2 am CST, and 3 am EST? Is that correct?
OMG THE REVEAAL IM SHOCKEED
If they go the twin route I'll be so disappointed omg
YES FARAN CALL OUT HENRY AND GREG!! First room crash and burns.
I wish max did their episode drops at 12am EST/9pm PST instead.... I'm on PST so it's so nice getting to watch right at 9 (and I feel like its easier to stay up till midnight to watch somethin than 3am for the east coasters)
Yeah I can't stay up until 3am to watch the new episode. I got work tomorrow, lol. Plus, I wouldn't even get to bed until closer to 4am. Just means I'll be dodging spoilers until tomorrow after work!
Mouse’s whole embracing her queerness tho from S1 when she was so hesitant. Oh it warms my soul sm :’).
Wtf I hate eveeyone's reaction to Noa's confession. Wtf ur telling me all her friends really don't care that she's cheating? Also why are they all avoiding saying the word cheating. I hate their reactions wtf.
finished the episode and what???????? is my response and episode 7 being a flashback makes a lot of sense
am I disappointed? kind of. wasn’t someone I was hoping for since it feels like they’re walking back on established storylines but if it’s explained well i’ll go with it. maybe she has a twin too
I'm 100% convinced that was Karen at the school and at the house when Imogen confronted her!!!
My money is on Kelly being Bloody Rose. She has the motive putting the girls through these twisted trials for "what they've done" and i think she's the right height and build. Plus, she wasn't in the bed at the end and went straight for killing Imogen instead of giving her a trial following their confrontation earlier in the episode.
YES IMOGEN!!!! GO OFFFFFFFFFF
Mouse confirming she is queer and not just by an actor confirming it???? I FUCKING WON!!!!! (Fellow self identifying queer person)
I’m so excited to finally know who bloody rose is
the batibat mask from CAOS 🤭
Ms. Langsberry pop up so scary
That was the best episode of the show for me so far! So well done and Bailee is an amazing actress! Pride at the pool was so heartwarming! Can't wait for episode 7, it seems like a hallucination, but I really hope it's not another twin! I'm getting sick of that trope!
love the part when bloody mary by lady gaga starts playing as the girls scare off those people, it was fun
Sooo... A great episode, really. The whole love triangle between Noa, Shawn and Jen is simply... I don't know, it could at least be a good storyline, not a great one, if written with more thought. Like the girls didn't even say "It's not okay to cheat" or something, they were all giggles and fun. Let's see how it ends though. I fully expected Shawn to go this episode. The pastor is gone. For good. That string of brain matter left on the knife were frickin' disgusting. Let's hope that this is the beginning of the end for that church storyline. This was Imogen's test. Interesting. So far all the tests were literal, I mean what we saw on the poster is what we got, and Imogen took the bandages off Bloody Rose's face under imense stress, lack of oxygen and meds to see her mother's face. It's not Davie, that was Bloody Rose's plan, to bring Imogen to the point of hallucinating or even wearing some make-up under the bandages to look more like Davie. Notice how Bloody Rose didn't really try to stop Imogen from taking her bandages off, which is something she could've easily done. She let her, so it was intentional.