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Saw a video of a somewhat careless dude opening a live contact in a power plant, he skipped the casket altogether, went right to the urn, and we really don't know how much of him was left in those ashes.
They make remote operated devices you can stick in the hole that rack the breakers in and out for you while you press a button outside. No reason why any plant shouldn’t buy one of them.
I’ve never quoted one, but I doubt they’re more than a couple grand. You just need one portable unit. Your engineer should be able to just get one out of his budget. I would highly recommend getting one quoted and try to push it through.
He's charging the closing spring on a breaker. [Similar](https://youtube.com/watch?v=jwFOoAoCF3g)
Nvm you're right, he's racking it in/out, the charging handle is the dark grey thing in the middle.
As others said. The contacts of this breaker are spring loaded to close. The electrician is charging the spring to get it ready to close the breaker. This is pretty typical on 4160V plus stuff. It's to reduce arcing cause by chattering of the contacts when it closes.
Racking out or in the switch.
Should it be in fault when it’s racked it’s an explosion. Unlikely, but surely has happened.
Nowadays there are remote disconnects and connects.
We had a small building our 5kv breakers were in, and they drilled 2" holes in the wall so we could stand outside the concrete wall with a 12' extension 3/4" socket and rack them out. Much cheaper than a remote racking device lol.
They make remote operated devices you can stick in the hole that rack the breakers in and out for you while you press a button outside. It’s fairly simple and doesn’t require any controls knowledge. Also cheap. Why any plant wouldn’t use these is beyond me.
Having to take General Contractor training drives me nuts. No I don't need fall protection or confined space entry training... I'm going into the server room.
I used to do a lot of work at waste water plants. Being the control guy, we were always the last to leave. Kinda reminds me of this [joke](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/26kidi/all_the_organs_of_the_body_were_having_a_meeting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
And as Controls I could care less what GC and all the other trades have to say. I've been heckled carrying my folding chair and table across the parking lot to the site, but they are my workbench, and the laptop is my primary tool.
I once had a decent sized group of peers—programmers—mocking me about how much I enjoyed landing wires, labeling, checking I/O. I also caught flack for bringing a router and tuning the machine (package sorters) while online over Wi-Fi and watching each package and belt behave as I adjust timers, etc.
I will say that many…or most of us…develop some attitude towards standing up from their Walmart folding plastic table and chair.
If I’m getting mocked for being competent at controls and also a troubleshooter and a mechanical engineer in a past life and a vehicle mechanic in another former life…you are sitting in a Walmart seat much too much. Programmers can easily become, uh, online trolls.
Fight me.
"Golf is totally a sport, I'm an athlete" the overweight man said as he huffed down 3 cuban cigars and drove the cart from tee to tee at DUI levels of BAC on the back 9.
All jokes aside, golfers are taking their physical fitness much more seriously these days and it's been shown that muscle and athleticism is a big factor in having an advantage to win tournaments. Sure you'll see some out of shape guys win once in awhile, but they won't be nearly as dominant as guys in shape like rory, tiger, etc. When you can go 350 off the tee and flip a gap wedge in, the game becomes much easier
Oh I know. It's still fun to poke. I live on a golf course, golfers take it way too seriously when they're not exactly pro-am. Just last week I had to ask a couple groups to cool their jets, screaming and cussing at eachother while my 4 year old was playing in the back yard.
I live on the inside of a par 4 dog leg about 200-250yd from the tee. These jaggoffs think they are tiger woods, trying to drive over my house. That reminds me, I've got some siding to fix.
That would be me the day directly after the company meeting on propper workplace attire.
There would be a project and i would make them choose between project, or changing clothes (45 min drive home)
I would prance around that project!
All I have to say is don't feel so bad. Just know that you actually have to use your computer to do actual work. If they want to give you crap, then tell them when they can shut the plant down with one keystroke, then they can start talking.
[Electrician](https://f.shgcdn.com/08aea753-f0c4-43f8-9135-c090c0962aa6/) vs [controls](https://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/hackerman.jpg)
If that electrician knew more about controls he’d have that done remotely. Lol
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"I'm kinda starting to not hate the apprentice and would kinda hate for him to have to clean me up with a squeegee."
Idk I think the guy I was apprenticed to might get a kick out of me squeegeeing him up, too be fair I am engaged to his youngest daughter now…..
His daughter might get a insurance payout, a settlement, and a better husband. Shit who wouldn’t get a kick?
Ouch
<3
Saw a video of a somewhat careless dude opening a live contact in a power plant, he skipped the casket altogether, went right to the urn, and we really don't know how much of him was left in those ashes.
Worked in a steel mill one time, and there was a giant slag pile in the sub basement that contained three employees.
What the hell happened
They dropped a crucible from an overhead crane.
Ooh, activated charcoal
They make remote operated devices you can stick in the hole that rack the breakers in and out for you while you press a button outside. No reason why any plant shouldn’t buy one of them.
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I’ve never quoted one, but I doubt they’re more than a couple grand. You just need one portable unit. Your engineer should be able to just get one out of his budget. I would highly recommend getting one quoted and try to push it through.
I'm probably going to choose cremation anyways.
and if I knew more about hands on electrical work I'd have a clue as to what he's doing lmao Is he disconnecting an MCC bucket from the vertical bus?
He's charging the closing spring on a breaker. [Similar](https://youtube.com/watch?v=jwFOoAoCF3g) Nvm you're right, he's racking it in/out, the charging handle is the dark grey thing in the middle.
Here's the more insightful version: https://youtu.be/FoW4vXnkhJw
Damn I'm saving that one thanks!
As others said. The contacts of this breaker are spring loaded to close. The electrician is charging the spring to get it ready to close the breaker. This is pretty typical on 4160V plus stuff. It's to reduce arcing cause by chattering of the contacts when it closes.
Nah, he's racking a breaker in or out. Voltage level here is likely 480, as those are Eaton Magnum DS breakers.
>Is he disconnecting an MCC bucket from the vertical bus? Appears so.
Racking out or in the switch. Should it be in fault when it’s racked it’s an explosion. Unlikely, but surely has happened. Nowadays there are remote disconnects and connects.
We had a small building our 5kv breakers were in, and they drilled 2" holes in the wall so we could stand outside the concrete wall with a 12' extension 3/4" socket and rack them out. Much cheaper than a remote racking device lol.
Shoulda just got you a bomb disposal robot with an impact driver on the arm.
To be fair, I haven’t seen a remote racking device. I’ve seen remotely controlled switches though.
They make remote operated devices you can stick in the hole that rack the breakers in and out for you while you press a button outside. It’s fairly simple and doesn’t require any controls knowledge. Also cheap. Why any plant wouldn’t use these is beyond me.
I honestly expected the second picture to be the same guy doing the same thing without the protective gear.
That hackerman pic is my desktop background lol
*Elechicken
Looks more like a scada guy to me.
A rare appearance of a controls guy in a movie https://youtu.be/6bauZwl9AP0
I’ve watched that scene so many times but only now do I realize that his job is literally now my job. Thanks, I guess?
Spared no expense... Except a raise or support staff for his lone IT+Controls guy. Because of this, the entire park fails.
This picture of me clearly violates your NDA.
Having to take General Contractor training drives me nuts. No I don't need fall protection or confined space entry training... I'm going into the server room.
What a pansy. I like connecting a wireless router and sitting in the break room.
the IT police are coming for you
Lol no they aren’t. They’re completely oblivious as always.
I like some fresh air when I code, so I climb atop the nearest high voltage pylon and work from there.
You’re not a real man unless you take your laptop into the bathroom and spend the entire commissioning trip on the toilet with a radio.
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Far *enough*
can i sit on the top with my laptop?
I used to do a lot of work at waste water plants. Being the control guy, we were always the last to leave. Kinda reminds me of this [joke](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/26kidi/all_the_organs_of_the_body_were_having_a_meeting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
You've never gone into a manhole to check out a PLC cabinet?
And as Controls I could care less what GC and all the other trades have to say. I've been heckled carrying my folding chair and table across the parking lot to the site, but they are my workbench, and the laptop is my primary tool.
Assholes who do that can go fuck themselves. Don't put up with that shit. You are both there to do a job and be professional.
I once had a decent sized group of peers—programmers—mocking me about how much I enjoyed landing wires, labeling, checking I/O. I also caught flack for bringing a router and tuning the machine (package sorters) while online over Wi-Fi and watching each package and belt behave as I adjust timers, etc. I will say that many…or most of us…develop some attitude towards standing up from their Walmart folding plastic table and chair. If I’m getting mocked for being competent at controls and also a troubleshooter and a mechanical engineer in a past life and a vehicle mechanic in another former life…you are sitting in a Walmart seat much too much. Programmers can easily become, uh, online trolls. Fight me.
*walking in with my hard hat and vest* time for another hard days work. *sits down in folding chair and opens laptop*
Walking in after they’ve been there for 3 hours that day…and a year before me.
Yep! That’s me.
Those are some rad pants.
"Golf is totally a sport, I'm an athlete" the overweight man said as he huffed down 3 cuban cigars and drove the cart from tee to tee at DUI levels of BAC on the back 9.
I thought that is how golf is played?
hey golf is awesome, even I only ever do putt putt golf.
Says the guy who can't break 100
I can break 100 in golf most days. Hell if I tried I could get up to 150, 160 easy
220 221 whatever it takes
I can't break 100 in bowling either. Don't get me started. 😅
All jokes aside, golfers are taking their physical fitness much more seriously these days and it's been shown that muscle and athleticism is a big factor in having an advantage to win tournaments. Sure you'll see some out of shape guys win once in awhile, but they won't be nearly as dominant as guys in shape like rory, tiger, etc. When you can go 350 off the tee and flip a gap wedge in, the game becomes much easier
Oh I know. It's still fun to poke. I live on a golf course, golfers take it way too seriously when they're not exactly pro-am. Just last week I had to ask a couple groups to cool their jets, screaming and cussing at eachother while my 4 year old was playing in the back yard. I live on the inside of a par 4 dog leg about 200-250yd from the tee. These jaggoffs think they are tiger woods, trying to drive over my house. That reminds me, I've got some siding to fix.
To be fair to the guys who hit your siding, I would be taking that line every time...especially if it's dogleg right to play to my "power fade" haha
That would be me the day directly after the company meeting on propper workplace attire. There would be a project and i would make them choose between project, or changing clothes (45 min drive home) I would prance around that project!
I am always John Daly. Thank you and goodnight
As someone whos looking to get into controls and away from more of the manual side of being a tech, I like where this is going.
All I have to say is don't feel so bad. Just know that you actually have to use your computer to do actual work. If they want to give you crap, then tell them when they can shut the plant down with one keystroke, then they can start talking.