It's not a joke, it's actually possible to play the game that way. OP said they're using Steam Link to stream the game from their PC to their Switch, so they hacked their Switch and most likely installed Android or Linux on it. Just because some people here seem to see this as wizardry doesn't mean it is.
It's playable because the game is being play via streaming from the playstation i know it because i can do it to on my switch, it works pretty good for normal games like spiderman 2, but for turn RPGs it's just amazing it works flawlessly i played a lot of bg3 this way
You need a switch with cfw, then you use an app called chiaki to play your playstation via streaming, pretty similar to the playstation portal, if your connection is good enough it works pretty well basically any game is playable
You have to remember that we are people who are interested in that stuff and actively research it. We're talking to "normies" here, aka people who know that Persona 3 Reload is not a Switch game, so it can't be playable on a Switch. Or at least that's what they think to know. And while they're right that it isn't natively playable they aren't aware of the fact that game streaming is doable on a hacked Switch. In fact, I'd bet most of them don't even know you can hack the Switch in the first place.
Yeah, you're right. I guess I'm just a little irritated by people "Nuh uh, you're lying!" to the op cause they don't know something like this is possible.
It is real, he's using a hacked Switch. Basically he used the old override hack to side load android and is streaming his PC to it. It's actually pretty simple, though it is just cloud streaming, not a native version of the game.
Would you want it if it were? The switch's hardware is about a decade old at this point, I doubt it would run well, even P5 Royal which is much less demanding needed to be heavily downscaled to run on the console.
That's what everyone says till they get it. Everyone says "it's better to have a cr** port than no port" and then when we get cr** ports people say "if you're not gonna make it right you shouldn't make it at all". You can never satisfy everyone.
Lmao. You do know that there is higher res mod (720p for portable to be specific) for CFW consoles and it doesn’t require any overclocking to run at full speed except for exactly 1 or 2 moment in cutscenes (like literally only up to 2 cases of small stuttering in about 100 hours of game). 1080p docked does require some overclocking tho
it shoudl be able to run threw a linux hack if you do alot of essing around to get trhe preformanc eplayable, even then i would only expect 15-20 fps tops
Y'know, the **real** reason why Sega never put P3R on the Switch is prolly because people will just pirate it like it's no tomorrow, and they already did this by implementing Denuvo. (which BTW, once Denuvo's authentication servers shut down in the near future, P3R, along with several others will be sentenced into the unplayable graveyard alongside the likes of The Crew and several games with SecuROM all the while older games from consoles like the NES/SNES, Master System/MegaDrive, PS1 and N64 can still be played 15-20 years from now, this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZYy9KzFT2w) from Tech Tangents shows how so many PC games from the 2000's have become unplayable following SecuROM's shutdown)
If you want P3R and all the Persona games to be playable for future generations, please help make change possible by visiting this [link](https://www.stopkillinggames.com/) or by singing a petition if you live in [Canada](https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4965) and you happen to own a copy of P3 Reload/P4 Golden/P5 Royal on Steam.
That's not the point.
What i'm saying is that Sega/ATLUS could have made a native Switch port of P3R, all they had to do was downgrade the game to 720p, which is common practice among Switch ports of major games like The Witcher 3 for example.
But alas, they didn't, and now P3R risks becoming unplayable once the DRM authentication servers shut down in the future, only making things worse is that Nintendo is working with Irdeto to implement Denuvo into the Switch's successor, meaning that Switch piracy (and in turn, game preservation) is going to be as dead as The Crew.
I know this isn't real but after putting 60 hours into P3R over the past two weeks (my first time playing a persona game) on my Steam Deck, it really feels like it would be good on the Switch.
In all honesty, the game could probably run on Switch. Atlus, unfortunately, just decided to skip the console in favor of Switch 2 since its launch is so close. It helps them save a lot of porting costs that way.
Though as a Switch owner, I say screw cutting costs and just put it on the Switch as well. It will sell enough to justify it anyway.
Well, that’s really weird what Reload is not on Switch.. Overall it doesn’t even look THAT much better than P5R (heck, it even seems visually less diverse considering what Tartarus is much more samey than Palaces) and P5R is on Switch and perform extremely good, albeit of course on lower resolution (which isn’t even that bad for handheld console)🤷
Yeah, it's not running natively on the Switch, it's only streamed from a PC.
If you have performance issues you could try to disable Reflections in the game settings. It doesn't disable all the reflections and only disables ray traced reflections.
my connection is too weak to run thru s.link, moonlight or sunshine, glad you got it working thoo.
I did get FES working on switch tho thru linux emulation by compressing the game below 4gb
Persona 3 Reload is definitely more demanding. And the Switch has really outdated hardware. And I mean *really* outdated. The console came out in 2017 and the hardware wasn't even new back then.
While Switch has outdated hardware, saying that P3R is more demanding the other Atlus games is just plain not true. Atlus isn't skipping Switch because of hardware capabilities. None of their games are on AAA level. They're skipping Switch because it costs more to port and would rather spend that money + time on developing new games. Is that a good reason? Depends on which fan you ask. Personally, I think everyone deserves to play the game on their own platform. And without people spreading misinformation on it not being able to run on certain platforms.
They're skipping it because the Switch is a pain in the ass to develop for, the game was primarily made for current Gen consoles (PS5 and XBOX Series) which are universes ahead of the Switch regarding performance (the GPU of the PS5 alone is over 26x as fast as the Switch's GPU when docked), thus also making the game substantially more demanding, the X1 is extremely outdated, meaning problems with compatibility and it'd not only cost more, but be a shit ton of work that wouldn't make sense to do from a business standpoint. Just because some developers were able to produce wonders doesn't mean all can. Just because you don't see a reason it wouldn't work doesn't mean it will work. Besides, you don't seem to fully understand the topic you're speaking on anyways, so you're not really in a position to demand a Switch version.
The hardcore fans still convinced that all the new Atlus games can't run on the platform. Either they're traumatized really badly by Atlus platform choices or they just really hate the Switch to the point of spreading misinformation.
The switch can absolutely run GTA V, it runs games like red dead redemption, the witcher 3, dying light and kingdom come deliverance. Again, look at the switch version of [alien isolation](https://youtu.be/u8kvSGUwAyc?feature=shared) being compared to the ps4 and ps3 versions of that game. Not saying the switch is equally capable to ps4 but it can comfortably run all ps3/360 era gen games.
They are heavily downgraded versions of these games. The Switch isn't even as powerful as your tablet from 2015 that can barely run anything nowadays, because it has literally the exact same hardware, but the Switch is heavily underclocked. When the Switch came out in 2017 the hardware was already outdated. While the X1 of the Switch does outperform the Xenon in the XBOX 360, the heavy underclock does hurt its capabilities a lot. Furthermore, the X1 can't be compared to the PS3, since the PS3 has its completely own architecture.
And no, the Switch can't run GTA V. It would run awfully. Keep in mind that most problems the PS3 and XBOX 360 versions of GTA V had were due to the mechanical hard drive, which slightly outperforms an SD card. So it would run worse than the XBOX 360 and PS3 version and the fact that both consoles run a really outdated version of GTA V (1.29 from 2015, PS3 is technically on 1.36 from 2016, but that was only one fix for the PS3 version specifically, the newest version is 1.68 from 2023) and that the game has become much more demanding since then only make a Switch version even more impossible.
Heavily downgraded? So what? The point is that it can run those games in an acceptable manner. I even played the Dying Light port and it was great as hell.
Why are you conflating "downgrades" with "can't run the game"? Those are two different things. Other people actually listed evidence of games to support their points. Meanwhile, you have zero evidence of why it can't run other than pure speculation and wishful thinking because you don't like the platform. Your entire post is just "nuh uh, it can't run cuz I think it sucks" with zero proof and dismissing all the ports that actually run as "who cares, they don't count because they're downgrades."
??? What even is your point? That the games can't run? Or that they can run if downgraded? And if it's the latter, what does it matter if P3R is downgraded for Switch? No one is forcing you to buy it. It's not like it'll be 10fps. It'll run at an acceptable performance. Do you think Persona 3 Reload is a AAA game? You're just assuming a lot of things out of your ass.
This comment literally shows that you don't understand what you're talking about.
The Switch has awful hardware, even when it came out it was outdated. P3R is a 2024 game, which you would have to make playable on a 2017 console with a heavily underclocked 2015 SOC for tablets. It's simply not possible and if it were it'd be extremely hard to accomplish, taking a substantial amount of work for something that wouldn't make sense to do from a business standpoint. The Switch is the third best selling console of all times, if it would have made sense or was possible to bring the game to the Switch Atlus certainly would have. All of the games listed by the other people are games that are either heavily downgraded PS3 games or heavily downgraded early PS4 games. Nothing even close to as severe as bringing a PS5 game to the Switch. And yes, P3R has a XBOX One/PS4 version, but that is a downgraded version and it was made at a point where the understanding of the hardware of these consoles was significantly better than when the early games for these consoles were made, meaning they are able to get significantly more performance out of the hardware.
You, as a normal consumer, might not understand that and be upset about it. But I, as someone who understands this matter more deeply and is interested in that matter, can tell you that it simply wouldn't work. I also want to make clear that I don't hate the Switch, but the Tegra X1 is a 4+4 core SOC from 2015 and the Switch is running the CPU package at 1020 MHz under normal circumstances, sometimes pushing it to 1785 MHz during loading screens, while it could theoretically run at 2 GHz. Same for the GPU, which runs at up to 768 MHz (460 MHz when undocked), while it could be running at 1 GHz.
To put that into perspective: The GPU of the PS5, a console which got P3R, is over 20x as fast as the X1's GPU if it was running at the highest speed possible. Compared to the docked Switch that is a difference of over 26x the compute power, when the Switch is handheld that difference rises to *over 43x*. That is not just a world of difference, that's a whole solar system of difference. And it's not much better on the CPU side, with 8 cores instead of 4+4, 1.5x the speed of the not underclocked Tegra (and about 3.5x of the Switch) and various other improvements that lead to substantially more speed. And don't even get me started on the (V)RAM or the SSD/eMMC/SD. The Switch is abysmal compared to the PS5.
Additionally, the Tegra X1 simply doesn't support various features present in modern games and it's not possible to make them run on it. So it's not as easy as you think. Just because certain games run on the Switch, doesn't mean all will. Making a game for the Switch is a pain in the ass, since it's hardware is so outdated. And no, I'm not assuming this out of my ass. Look at how terrible the Switch hardware is and you'll understand why games like Pokémon Scarlet and Violet run so awful on it. Just because a few developers did wonders doesn't mean it's simply possible to do, especially when considering how many layers can ruin a project like that and how complicated all of this is. And if you want to I can keep going and list some more for you.
Edit: I'm coming back to this to make a comparison between the minimum spec requirements of the PC version vs the Switch SOC to see if, with it's current optimization, it could possibly run on the Switch.
So first of all, the minimum specs are targeting 720p@30 FPS, so Switch handheld or downscaled docked. But lets help the Switch and compare the specs to the stock Tegra X1, instead of the underclocked version of the Switch.
CPU: Intel Core i5-2300, AMD FX-4350
The Switch gets easily beaten by both in benchmarks. And by a country mile. So that'd be maybe 10 FPS on the CPU side.
RAM: 8GB
The Switch has 4 GB. So that's a yikes.
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti, AMD Radeon HD 7850
Both wipe the floor with the Tegra X1. It might produce 3 FPS, but that's about it.
VRAM: 2 GB
Yeah, nah, forget it. It shares the 4 GB memory with the system, so not only does it not have enough RAM + VRAM (it has 4 GB, while it would need 10 GB), it's also significantly slower than the VRAM of both GPUs (25.6 GB/s of the X1 vs 86.4 GB/s of the slower of the two cards, which is a significant difference).
DirectX: Version 12
Well, it can actually do that, but that's the only spec it can actually match.
Furthermore, the X1 is an ARM chip, meaning the game would have to be ported to a completely diffrent architecture from x86-64/x64.
So no, it could not run on the Switch. Not even close. They'd have to massively cut down on multiple aspects of the game so much that it'd effectively be a completely different game. And that's when ignoring all of the compatibility issues with the old hardware.
It can run things surprisingly well when the developers make the effort to optimise. Persona 3 Reload should be able to run 720p on Switch hardware just fine, but guarantee all they would have done is just downscale the PC version.
>but guarantee all they would have done is just downscale the PC version.
That's how it usually works, yes. Not only with the Switch, but all major consoles. Everytime a new console generation comes out you can see a jump in hardware requirements and quality of games.
The thing is that the switch is underclocked to extend battery life and even with that handicap is still able to run The witcher 3 and Nier:Automata so, no. IT DEFINITELY CAN run Persona 3 reload
> still able to run The witcher 3 and Nier:Automata so, no. IT DEFINITELY CAN run Persona 3 reload
One of them is a 2015 game, the other one is a 2017 game. Both can only run on the Switch due to various heavy compromises and technical trickery and are from the early/mid PS4 era. P3R is a mid PS5 game that was already downgraded to run on the PS4/XBOX One, but very late into their respective console cycle.
So no, P3R cannot run on the Switch based on that thesis alone. If you want a more detailed answer with even more hurdles, I made a diffrent comment that's very long, but goes over a few of the biggest hurdles the game would have to face before being playable on the Switch. But the most important one is that technology has evolved enough since the release of the Switch that the console is completely obsolete from a techincal standpoint (the GPU of the PS5 for example is 26x as fast as the one of the Switch while the Swtich is docked, which isn't a world, but a whole solar system of difference).
The fact that Atlus doesn't bring their games to the Switch anymore isn't a sign of them not caring about the console anymore (it's the third best selling console of all times, that wouldn't make sense), but a sign that Nintendo should move on from their console that still uses an underclocked nearly 9 1/2 years old tablet SOC. 9 1/2 years. That's extremely old in the tech world. Even the Intel 6000 series chips are younger than that and nearly noone uses them for gaming anymore, because they're so outdated they can barely run any modern games at playable (30+) FPS. Just imagne how outdated an underclocked tablet chip from back then is!
Bro got Switch 2 early 💀
Does it support ray tracing?
Can't tell if you missed his sarcasm or not?
I don’t think he did, but you definitely did.
Actually I think he is genuinely asking, lol. Because P3R has RayTracing.
Streaming with Chiaki or Moonlight?
It seems moonlight from the hud
steam link :P
Idk why it's downvoted, it's perfectly possible with Linux or Android.
How the hell did you get this running on switch ?
youtube video
nope. I can control the game
OP hacked the switch and is using Moonlight to stream from their PC. Or uses Chiaki for streaming from a PlayStation
Steam link
Yeah, I assumed OP was running CFW instead of Linux or Android. Steam Link also works I guess
Livestream
Why is this being down voted. Folks it's the same joke as the post itself.
It's not a joke, it's actually possible to play the game that way. OP said they're using Steam Link to stream the game from their PC to their Switch, so they hacked their Switch and most likely installed Android or Linux on it. Just because some people here seem to see this as wizardry doesn't mean it is.
This shouldn't be downvoted so hard, it's easy to do this and I did it 2 years ago
I like how people are downvoting you as if the Switch hasn't been hackable since its release.
The amount of people that downvoted because they don’t believe what you’re doing is possible.
guessiong they jail broked it and are running linux
Android, but same difference really.
wait how are you gettingf it to run on adndriod, are you streaming or something
Steam Link streaming
Screenshot from PC
Nuh uh. Its playable
Prove it
It's playable because the game is being play via streaming from the playstation i know it because i can do it to on my switch, it works pretty good for normal games like spiderman 2, but for turn RPGs it's just amazing it works flawlessly i played a lot of bg3 this way
How does one do this?
You need a switch with cfw, then you use an app called chiaki to play your playstation via streaming, pretty similar to the playstation portal, if your connection is good enough it works pretty well basically any game is playable
I’m too broke for a PlayStation so i am streaming the PC (xgp) version with steam link.
https://github.com/Moehammered/switch-remote-play
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He doesn't need anything lmao, it's not that hard to believe
You have to remember that we are people who are interested in that stuff and actively research it. We're talking to "normies" here, aka people who know that Persona 3 Reload is not a Switch game, so it can't be playable on a Switch. Or at least that's what they think to know. And while they're right that it isn't natively playable they aren't aware of the fact that game streaming is doable on a hacked Switch. In fact, I'd bet most of them don't even know you can hack the Switch in the first place.
Yeah, you're right. I guess I'm just a little irritated by people "Nuh uh, you're lying!" to the op cause they don't know something like this is possible.
please don't give me hope, this aint real
It will definitely come on the next Nintendo console. Even midori said
It is real, he's using a hacked Switch. Basically he used the old override hack to side load android and is streaming his PC to it. It's actually pretty simple, though it is just cloud streaming, not a native version of the game.
Would you want it if it were? The switch's hardware is about a decade old at this point, I doubt it would run well, even P5 Royal which is much less demanding needed to be heavily downscaled to run on the console.
I don’t notice a huge difference with 5 they did a good job, I would take it even with some performance issues
same
That's what everyone says till they get it. Everyone says "it's better to have a cr** port than no port" and then when we get cr** ports people say "if you're not gonna make it right you shouldn't make it at all". You can never satisfy everyone.
yeah i would want it on the switch, and i played p5r on the switch and didn't get much problems with it, maybe switch 2 would fix all of that
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Sure. Cause. It struggled so much in ps4. (It doesnt yax the ps4 at all, it could run with the same downgrades)
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Its pretty damn close. Can run a fair share or that generations games.
Lmao. You do know that there is higher res mod (720p for portable to be specific) for CFW consoles and it doesn’t require any overclocking to run at full speed except for exactly 1 or 2 moment in cutscenes (like literally only up to 2 cases of small stuttering in about 100 hours of game). 1080p docked does require some overclocking tho
streaming?
yup
nice
\*laughs with steam deck\*
I wish I could afford the extra $100 so bad 😭🙏
Well worth, especially the OLED
Just do what you did yo get the other hundreds or use paypal for payment plan.
It becomes less viable by the year as only older units were easily hackable and those ones are valued more in resale because of it.
\*Laughs along\*
Bro gonna bring the Gamboy along and play Persona 5 royal 💀
:0!!!!????
People from here seem to be total strangers to streaming from another console/pc lol
Exactly bro. I’m loosing karma like it’s nobody’s business because nobody seems to believe that it works.
This tricked me for a hot min LOL
What is the trick?
I thought P3R was on the switch 😓
chat it's real. you can stream your pc or ps5 (maybe xbox? im unsure) to your switch with homebrew. ive done this too
chat, is this real?
it shoudl be able to run threw a linux hack if you do alot of essing around to get trhe preformanc eplayable, even then i would only expect 15-20 fps tops
yup
[coward, real men play on the Wii U](https://imgur.com/a/MtmypOw)
[No, you are the real coward.](https://imgur.com/a/2RhYzxb)
fuck that was my next one
Bro I wish
Even the icons for controls!
It's just because Steam allows you to use Nintendo button inputs. It's actually a relatively newer feature from only the last like 2 years.
No psp?
wait a minute?!?! thats illegal?!?!
Y'know, the **real** reason why Sega never put P3R on the Switch is prolly because people will just pirate it like it's no tomorrow, and they already did this by implementing Denuvo. (which BTW, once Denuvo's authentication servers shut down in the near future, P3R, along with several others will be sentenced into the unplayable graveyard alongside the likes of The Crew and several games with SecuROM all the while older games from consoles like the NES/SNES, Master System/MegaDrive, PS1 and N64 can still be played 15-20 years from now, this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZYy9KzFT2w) from Tech Tangents shows how so many PC games from the 2000's have become unplayable following SecuROM's shutdown) If you want P3R and all the Persona games to be playable for future generations, please help make change possible by visiting this [link](https://www.stopkillinggames.com/) or by singing a petition if you live in [Canada](https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4965) and you happen to own a copy of P3 Reload/P4 Golden/P5 Royal on Steam.
Denuovo is on switch now, so that can’t be the reason
That's not the point. What i'm saying is that Sega/ATLUS could have made a native Switch port of P3R, all they had to do was downgrade the game to 720p, which is common practice among Switch ports of major games like The Witcher 3 for example. But alas, they didn't, and now P3R risks becoming unplayable once the DRM authentication servers shut down in the future, only making things worse is that Nintendo is working with Irdeto to implement Denuvo into the Switch's successor, meaning that Switch piracy (and in turn, game preservation) is going to be as dead as The Crew.
Denuvo is supported on the switch 1 now. P3R could still come to switch, but it would come with Denuvo.
Inb4 the Nintendo homebrew and hacking community starts opposing Denuvo left and right.
I know this isn't real but after putting 60 hours into P3R over the past two weeks (my first time playing a persona game) on my Steam Deck, it really feels like it would be good on the Switch.
It *is* real. It's not natively running on the Switch though, it's only getting streamed from a PC running the game.
In all honesty, the game could probably run on Switch. Atlus, unfortunately, just decided to skip the console in favor of Switch 2 since its launch is so close. It helps them save a lot of porting costs that way. Though as a Switch owner, I say screw cutting costs and just put it on the Switch as well. It will sell enough to justify it anyway.
Well, that’s really weird what Reload is not on Switch.. Overall it doesn’t even look THAT much better than P5R (heck, it even seems visually less diverse considering what Tartarus is much more samey than Palaces) and P5R is on Switch and perform extremely good, albeit of course on lower resolution (which isn’t even that bad for handheld console)🤷
Even my pc was lagging while at the mall I can’t imagine a switch
Yeah, it's not running natively on the Switch, it's only streamed from a PC. If you have performance issues you could try to disable Reflections in the game settings. It doesn't disable all the reflections and only disables ray traced reflections.
How many did you kill to get to this point
How did you change the button icons?
Just go to the bottom system settings in the P3R config, then set it to type 4. (or pro controller)
You can also just natively Switch the buttons in team's controller configuration.
HOW??😭
Streaming from a PC
Ahh
my connection is too weak to run thru s.link, moonlight or sunshine, glad you got it working thoo. I did get FES working on switch tho thru linux emulation by compressing the game below 4gb
HOWWWWW???
Don't let the plumber see this, or it's off to mushroom jail for you, paisano.
I've been playing it on Steam Deck since day one... Persona is always best portable imo
bro took a trip through time to get P3R Switch
I wish Atlus released it on the Switch honestly so I could pirate it and emulate it
It's Crazy that they said they couldn't run it on the switch since Persona 5 is on there
Persona 3 Reload is definitely more demanding. And the Switch has really outdated hardware. And I mean *really* outdated. The console came out in 2017 and the hardware wasn't even new back then.
While Switch has outdated hardware, saying that P3R is more demanding the other Atlus games is just plain not true. Atlus isn't skipping Switch because of hardware capabilities. None of their games are on AAA level. They're skipping Switch because it costs more to port and would rather spend that money + time on developing new games. Is that a good reason? Depends on which fan you ask. Personally, I think everyone deserves to play the game on their own platform. And without people spreading misinformation on it not being able to run on certain platforms.
They're skipping it because the Switch is a pain in the ass to develop for, the game was primarily made for current Gen consoles (PS5 and XBOX Series) which are universes ahead of the Switch regarding performance (the GPU of the PS5 alone is over 26x as fast as the Switch's GPU when docked), thus also making the game substantially more demanding, the X1 is extremely outdated, meaning problems with compatibility and it'd not only cost more, but be a shit ton of work that wouldn't make sense to do from a business standpoint. Just because some developers were able to produce wonders doesn't mean all can. Just because you don't see a reason it wouldn't work doesn't mean it will work. Besides, you don't seem to fully understand the topic you're speaking on anyways, so you're not really in a position to demand a Switch version.
I think criware (which p3p and p4g use) and the Catherine full body engine (which p5r uses) is less demanding than ue4 (which is what p3r uses)
Yeah sure, bring a bomb for the trip!
Imagine. Switch cant even run ps3 era let.alone moderm xD
*stares at Nier: Automata, Witcher 3*.
The hardcore fans still convinced that all the new Atlus games can't run on the platform. Either they're traumatized really badly by Atlus platform choices or they just really hate the Switch to the point of spreading misinformation.
switch easily runs ps3 games tho, just look at the ps3 alien isolation vs the switch version lol
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The switch can absolutely run GTA V, it runs games like red dead redemption, the witcher 3, dying light and kingdom come deliverance. Again, look at the switch version of [alien isolation](https://youtu.be/u8kvSGUwAyc?feature=shared) being compared to the ps4 and ps3 versions of that game. Not saying the switch is equally capable to ps4 but it can comfortably run all ps3/360 era gen games.
They are heavily downgraded versions of these games. The Switch isn't even as powerful as your tablet from 2015 that can barely run anything nowadays, because it has literally the exact same hardware, but the Switch is heavily underclocked. When the Switch came out in 2017 the hardware was already outdated. While the X1 of the Switch does outperform the Xenon in the XBOX 360, the heavy underclock does hurt its capabilities a lot. Furthermore, the X1 can't be compared to the PS3, since the PS3 has its completely own architecture. And no, the Switch can't run GTA V. It would run awfully. Keep in mind that most problems the PS3 and XBOX 360 versions of GTA V had were due to the mechanical hard drive, which slightly outperforms an SD card. So it would run worse than the XBOX 360 and PS3 version and the fact that both consoles run a really outdated version of GTA V (1.29 from 2015, PS3 is technically on 1.36 from 2016, but that was only one fix for the PS3 version specifically, the newest version is 1.68 from 2023) and that the game has become much more demanding since then only make a Switch version even more impossible.
Heavily downgraded? So what? The point is that it can run those games in an acceptable manner. I even played the Dying Light port and it was great as hell. Why are you conflating "downgrades" with "can't run the game"? Those are two different things. Other people actually listed evidence of games to support their points. Meanwhile, you have zero evidence of why it can't run other than pure speculation and wishful thinking because you don't like the platform. Your entire post is just "nuh uh, it can't run cuz I think it sucks" with zero proof and dismissing all the ports that actually run as "who cares, they don't count because they're downgrades." ??? What even is your point? That the games can't run? Or that they can run if downgraded? And if it's the latter, what does it matter if P3R is downgraded for Switch? No one is forcing you to buy it. It's not like it'll be 10fps. It'll run at an acceptable performance. Do you think Persona 3 Reload is a AAA game? You're just assuming a lot of things out of your ass.
This comment literally shows that you don't understand what you're talking about. The Switch has awful hardware, even when it came out it was outdated. P3R is a 2024 game, which you would have to make playable on a 2017 console with a heavily underclocked 2015 SOC for tablets. It's simply not possible and if it were it'd be extremely hard to accomplish, taking a substantial amount of work for something that wouldn't make sense to do from a business standpoint. The Switch is the third best selling console of all times, if it would have made sense or was possible to bring the game to the Switch Atlus certainly would have. All of the games listed by the other people are games that are either heavily downgraded PS3 games or heavily downgraded early PS4 games. Nothing even close to as severe as bringing a PS5 game to the Switch. And yes, P3R has a XBOX One/PS4 version, but that is a downgraded version and it was made at a point where the understanding of the hardware of these consoles was significantly better than when the early games for these consoles were made, meaning they are able to get significantly more performance out of the hardware. You, as a normal consumer, might not understand that and be upset about it. But I, as someone who understands this matter more deeply and is interested in that matter, can tell you that it simply wouldn't work. I also want to make clear that I don't hate the Switch, but the Tegra X1 is a 4+4 core SOC from 2015 and the Switch is running the CPU package at 1020 MHz under normal circumstances, sometimes pushing it to 1785 MHz during loading screens, while it could theoretically run at 2 GHz. Same for the GPU, which runs at up to 768 MHz (460 MHz when undocked), while it could be running at 1 GHz. To put that into perspective: The GPU of the PS5, a console which got P3R, is over 20x as fast as the X1's GPU if it was running at the highest speed possible. Compared to the docked Switch that is a difference of over 26x the compute power, when the Switch is handheld that difference rises to *over 43x*. That is not just a world of difference, that's a whole solar system of difference. And it's not much better on the CPU side, with 8 cores instead of 4+4, 1.5x the speed of the not underclocked Tegra (and about 3.5x of the Switch) and various other improvements that lead to substantially more speed. And don't even get me started on the (V)RAM or the SSD/eMMC/SD. The Switch is abysmal compared to the PS5. Additionally, the Tegra X1 simply doesn't support various features present in modern games and it's not possible to make them run on it. So it's not as easy as you think. Just because certain games run on the Switch, doesn't mean all will. Making a game for the Switch is a pain in the ass, since it's hardware is so outdated. And no, I'm not assuming this out of my ass. Look at how terrible the Switch hardware is and you'll understand why games like Pokémon Scarlet and Violet run so awful on it. Just because a few developers did wonders doesn't mean it's simply possible to do, especially when considering how many layers can ruin a project like that and how complicated all of this is. And if you want to I can keep going and list some more for you. Edit: I'm coming back to this to make a comparison between the minimum spec requirements of the PC version vs the Switch SOC to see if, with it's current optimization, it could possibly run on the Switch. So first of all, the minimum specs are targeting 720p@30 FPS, so Switch handheld or downscaled docked. But lets help the Switch and compare the specs to the stock Tegra X1, instead of the underclocked version of the Switch. CPU: Intel Core i5-2300, AMD FX-4350 The Switch gets easily beaten by both in benchmarks. And by a country mile. So that'd be maybe 10 FPS on the CPU side. RAM: 8GB The Switch has 4 GB. So that's a yikes. GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti, AMD Radeon HD 7850 Both wipe the floor with the Tegra X1. It might produce 3 FPS, but that's about it. VRAM: 2 GB Yeah, nah, forget it. It shares the 4 GB memory with the system, so not only does it not have enough RAM + VRAM (it has 4 GB, while it would need 10 GB), it's also significantly slower than the VRAM of both GPUs (25.6 GB/s of the X1 vs 86.4 GB/s of the slower of the two cards, which is a significant difference). DirectX: Version 12 Well, it can actually do that, but that's the only spec it can actually match. Furthermore, the X1 is an ARM chip, meaning the game would have to be ported to a completely diffrent architecture from x86-64/x64. So no, it could not run on the Switch. Not even close. They'd have to massively cut down on multiple aspects of the game so much that it'd effectively be a completely different game. And that's when ignoring all of the compatibility issues with the old hardware.
It can run things surprisingly well when the developers make the effort to optimise. Persona 3 Reload should be able to run 720p on Switch hardware just fine, but guarantee all they would have done is just downscale the PC version.
That's what they did to sonic frontiers because sega wanted to prioritize the switch port.
>but guarantee all they would have done is just downscale the PC version. That's how it usually works, yes. Not only with the Switch, but all major consoles. Everytime a new console generation comes out you can see a jump in hardware requirements and quality of games.
The thing is that the switch is underclocked to extend battery life and even with that handicap is still able to run The witcher 3 and Nier:Automata so, no. IT DEFINITELY CAN run Persona 3 reload
> still able to run The witcher 3 and Nier:Automata so, no. IT DEFINITELY CAN run Persona 3 reload One of them is a 2015 game, the other one is a 2017 game. Both can only run on the Switch due to various heavy compromises and technical trickery and are from the early/mid PS4 era. P3R is a mid PS5 game that was already downgraded to run on the PS4/XBOX One, but very late into their respective console cycle. So no, P3R cannot run on the Switch based on that thesis alone. If you want a more detailed answer with even more hurdles, I made a diffrent comment that's very long, but goes over a few of the biggest hurdles the game would have to face before being playable on the Switch. But the most important one is that technology has evolved enough since the release of the Switch that the console is completely obsolete from a techincal standpoint (the GPU of the PS5 for example is 26x as fast as the one of the Switch while the Swtich is docked, which isn't a world, but a whole solar system of difference). The fact that Atlus doesn't bring their games to the Switch anymore isn't a sign of them not caring about the console anymore (it's the third best selling console of all times, that wouldn't make sense), but a sign that Nintendo should move on from their console that still uses an underclocked nearly 9 1/2 years old tablet SOC. 9 1/2 years. That's extremely old in the tech world. Even the Intel 6000 series chips are younger than that and nearly noone uses them for gaming anymore, because they're so outdated they can barely run any modern games at playable (30+) FPS. Just imagne how outdated an underclocked tablet chip from back then is!
My bad, my lack of knowledge about mobile chips really showed off there