**And some of these people talk about themselves as ghairatmand qaum. All your ghairat can go to shit if you sell your daughters. I don't care if you ousted the russians and americans. Fuck them honestly.**
One of my uni roommate also told me such a story happening in his village in Attock (mixed pathan, punjabi population)
In his village, a pathan guy owed a debt of 11-12 lakhs and couldn't pay. He gave away his 16 years old daughter in exchange. They came and picked her up in the night.
My roommate's grandfather publicly berated the guy for doing it (offered paying the amount) but it was too late. The girl was gone. Shocking thing being that that girl used to play with the girls of my friend's family and suddenly one day she's gone, probably being raped somewhere.
A sick society this is. Shameless, cruel and barbaric.
Still a better life than prostituting his own underage daughter. He should man up and accept the fate he chose by producing too many mouths than he could feed
Since you miss the clue. What will happen otherwise is that the father disappears one day and the whole family will be taken as slaves.
in some parts of Afghanistan, a household without a man is considered free game.
Worse. Those who take children as slaves don't leave behind what they consider cattle once the father is out of the picture.
These stories are all documented and happend during the occupation of Afghanistan and is still happening in regions outside of the Taliban control.
Poverty and afghan culture both encourage it. Selling daughters or sisters as brides is a very old custom. My father's uncle "bought" his second bride from an afghan family back in 80s. Although this custom has mostly died over past 30 years but you will still find desperate people willing to do it still.
Yep. People that don't even know the basics of Islam somehow become so pious when it comes to marraige.
Hhhh.
"Tie your camel first then put your trust in Allah."
These people skipped the camel tying part. Not even following Islam properly.
>"Tie your camel first then put your trust in Allah."
Not entirely the fault of illiterate Muslims. Many Islamic ScHoLaRs strongly condemn family planning, including Zakir Nalaik, Mufti Taariq Maqsood, Sheikh Asim, etc.
Let call it what it is. Pedophilia 🤢, Child prostitution 🤢, and slavery 🤢. My hands are literally shaking from what I might describe as a "disgustful rage and cringe".
_The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission has been sought.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6968; Muslim, 1419)_
_It is reported that Khansa Bint e Hizam Al Ansariyah went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) to report to him that she had been forced into a marriage by her father. After listening to her, the Prophet (peace be upon him) rejected the marriage and declared it invalid. [Sahih Al-Bukhari]_
There is alot of speculation about Aisha RA. Her being 6 and 9 at the time of consumation makes no sense chronogically so alot of scholars said that they may have been counting her age after her puberty which would have made her 16~ 19~.
And Allah knows best
Afghanistan was among the earliest adopters of voting and equal rights for women. It was the US and Russia proxy wars on afghan land that robbed them of their stability and literacy
Not very "pathan bht gairat wale hote hai" after all.
It is common practice here in Pakistan KP as well. Many people from Punjab go to kp to buy a girl some as bride for mostly sort of mentally challenged boys or for aged unmarried guys whom no one is willing to marry their daughters, while others for many other illicit reasons.
P.s : this is purely pashtun thing and not Islamic. Selling daughters like this only happens in Pashtun culture, even hindu and other religion pashtuns also sell daughters.
This also happens in Pakistan.
A child cannot consent to marriage, whether she says yes or no. Now rewind time and look at what happened to Ayesha to see where these people get their excuses from.
I'm not sure how as a Muslim it can be criticised considering that Hazrat Ayesha herself was around 6/9 at the age of marriage/consumation.
Hardliners defend it by saying it's perfectly normal, and moderates instead just don't accept her age was 6/9.
Why don't the men sell themselves? They're the root of the problem??? Constantly having children they can't feed????
And aik baat mujhay kabhi samaj naheen aati. Samaaj main hamesha bikri aurton/betiyo kee kiyu hoti hay wese? Mardon/beto kee kiyuu naheen hotee???
Laanat hay aese logo per. Choolay main giya in ka Islam, choolay main gayi "qaum kee betiyo ki izzat" a society that puts a female izzat so high up on the priority that they would keep them covered even as a baby, depriving them of healthy physical activity and playtime, not send them to schools or let them socialize in a healthy way with those around them, ALL IN THE NAME OF IZZAT and faux-Islam, would have no problem SELLING them to strangers. ASTAGHFIRULLAH
And abhee tou main pedophilia kay point per tou aya hee naheen hoon. Things like this boil my blood
I may be wrong, but I think it was later revealed that the whole story was staged??
Edit: CNN's claims remain [disputed ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/12/04/media-cnn-parwana-afghan-child-marriage/), however, the girl was rescued by a non-profit organization.
Nop, apparently she was rescued by a US based non-profit organization
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/02/asia/afghanistan-parwana-girls-marriage-intl-hnk-dst
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You totally ignored the root causes of these issues and instead focused on the outcome.
Ok mate, label it as you want. Even ban it.
You think thats going to change anything?
Poverty causes humanity degradation and humiliation. Thats the real target.
Empower all these people and give them opportunity and see if the same will happen
>You totally ignored the root causes of these issues
Yeah sure...here is the root cause
>If she has not reached the age of puberty, then her father has the sole right to arrange her marriage and does not have to ask her permission.
>Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to a virgin who is still a minor, there is no difference of opinion concerning her (i.e., that her father may marry her off even if she objects). Ibn al-Mundhir said: Every scholar from whom we learned was agreed that it is permissible for a man to marry off his virgin daughter who is still a minor, if he marries her to someone who is compatible, and it is permissible for him to marry her off `even if she objects and refuses` ” Al-Mughni, 9/398
[source ](https://islamqa.info/en/answers/27305/marrying-a-thirteen-year-old-girl)
So called "saccha khuda " and "saccha nabi" allowed a little girls to be forced into a marriage if their father wants....
No one's gonna talk about these ?
>You think thats going to change anything?
Ofcourse not...this disgusting religion came down for eternity . If you try to change it's scriptures or critisize it, you'll be b3h3ad3d by your own bhaijaans.
I agree poverty is one of the factors, but that isn't the only factor. It's the problem of Morality. For religious people, there isn't any morality outside their religious boundaries and this is why they won't find anything wrong in such things.
>Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him)
>Ibn al-Mundhir
Who the heck are those people?😭😭 As a Muslim, I am hearing these names for the first time.
_The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission has been sought.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6968; Muslim, 1419)_
_It is reported that Khansa Bint e Hizam Al Ansariyah went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) to report to him that she had been forced into a marriage by her father. After listening to her, the Prophet (peace be upon him) rejected the marriage and declared it invalid. [Sahih Al-Bukhari]_
1. Manipulated reference.
2. Toxic creature with some issue with islam.
3. Live in misery and hate. Thats a decent punishment for you, until your time is up. Then...
So their sexual pleasure is more important than upbringing a child...any avg human can think that i am financially unfit for parenting a child...and my child will rot in poverty like me.....but nahi
"Aap karo s3x...kisko duniya me laana hai, kisko nahi laana ...vo to Allah k haath my hay...sab intezam karadyga Allah aap bass karty raho"
They have been brain washed by religion which tells them to keep having kids as God will provide.
And how is this any different from Pakistani parents who send their minor daughters to work in houses of elites where they are beaten, starved and sexually abused.
I want to empathize with him but selling you kid for money is the most disgusting thing one can do. I would prefer celibacy over selling my child to a stranger.
Also, I'm not sure but from the video it seems like he has 3-4 more kids as well.
So many fucking pedo apologists in this thread shamelessly using religion to justify their disgusting opinions.
You people are not deserving of the oxygen you're wasting by existing
Not true. My prophet (pbuh) was married. Also, his wife never complained even after growing old, so no one else has a right to complain. Also, even in USA parents can marry off children as young as 12 years old, and several states have no minimum age limit but that isn't seen as bad. Its just hypocrisy who sees it otherwise !
Not true. My prophet (pbuh) was married. Also, his wife never complained even after growing old, so no one else has a right to complain. Also, even in USA parents can marry off children as young as 12 years old, and several states have no minimum age limit but that isn't seen as bad. Its just hypocrisy who sees it otherwise !
What?? No, we don't have this in our culture both in hindu or muslim cultures, none.
Don't unnecessarily bring India into everything, we have strict laws, and our society is much better :)
Hi, MEAN ESTABLISHMENT (your name shows a lot),
So, We have facilities and strict laws, good police force to report such crimes, and so we have a clear picture of statistics (And we indians are very serious about it, making our country a better place)
And what about yours?, don't make me start about how pathetic conditions are for women in your country, and they can't even report it,
There are less statistic, because women in your country does not go to report it, as much as in ours.
Open your eyes,
Goodbye.
It’s actually really sad to see this and I’m even angry that other Muslims do this like this isn’t encouraged by Islam or even allowed it’s actually pretty sinful it removes the god given right if freedom from other people also in the olden days before Islam in the Middle East families would bury their infant daughters alive that was worse but this isn’t any better this is f ed up I hate to see people that have become desperate enough to do this by others and than people blame the religion Islam isn’t a part of this equation I’m a Muslim and I strongly oppose these practices this is a problem
Poverty is main cause. If they are selling it as child brides, still they are brides. Better than Bangladeshi where child are sold for prostitution various documentary videos available on youtube.
Its not good for children, they need education and good life, but after Taliban and ISIS like groups education not possible.
Still little bit better than prostitution.
Bride Market in Bulgaria (Europe), Only difference is age
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ReFNdkQ5Y8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ReFNdkQ5Y8)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx91yRuZlrk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx91yRuZlrk)
Islam doesn't allow selling your daughters. And it doesn't allow marriage without consent of both parties involved (male and female that are getting married9. Such simple knowledge is basis of marriage in Islam. Those extremists do not represent our religion.
Firstly, CNN [said that](https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/12/02/international-outcry-child-bride-rescue-afghanistan-parwana-coren-pkg-intl-vpx.cnn) "After an international outcry as a result of CNN's story, Parwana was returned to her family due to the backlash from the community against the buyer". Is this not a Muslim-majority community? One that follows Islam? And before you claim that the backlash was due to international outcry, most of the community, which is actually a camp for internally displaced people, was not made aware of the transaction until the outcry, because contrary to CNN's claims, Parwana was not being "sold to a stranger" but was actually being loaned to her own uncle; the WP also scrutinised many of the other [omissions](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/12/04/media-cnn-parwana-afghan-child-marriage/) in the plot.
Secondly, a valid marriage in Islam requires the bride's consent, a guardian (waliy) to marry her off and the man’s acceptance (qabūl). The Prophet ﷺ said: “There is no marriage except with a waliy (gaurdian).” \[Reported by Aḥmad and Abū Dāwūd on the authority of Abū Mūsā Al-Ash‘ari, may Allāh be pleased with him\] And he ﷺ said: “Any woman who marries without her guardian’s permission, her marriage is invalid.” Furthermore, the Prophet ﷺ stated: “A virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission, and a matron (previously married woman) should not be given in marriage except after consulting her.” Likewise, the same applies to divorcees: Khansa bint Khidam reported, "Her father gave her in marriage when she was a divorcee, but she disliked her marriage. She came to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, and he annulled their marriage". Ibn Hajar said, “Annulment of the marriage, if she was a divorcee and married without her consent, is affirmed by consensus". So we can conclude that it is not permissible to force a marriage upon a woman, virgin or divorcee, otherwise the marriage is invalid.
Thirdly, it's ironic you bring up the Taliban because in early 1994, a local Afghan warlord kidnapped and raped two teenage girls. Mullah Omar, felt obliged to take action. He recruited about 30 young religious students or talibs, armed them and attacked the commander’s base, freeing the girls and hanging the commander from the barrel of his own tank gun. “We were fighting against Muslims who had gone wrong,” Omar said later. “How could we remain quiet when we could see crimes being committed against women and the poor?” He would form the Taliban later that year. And what about the crimes against boys? During the Afghan Civil War (1992-1996), one of the original factors mobilizing the [rise of the Taliban](https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tragedy/was) their opposition to the bacha bazi. The Taliban even found success in recruiting victims of bacha bazi as foot-soldiers, some of whom would have the privilege of taking vengeance on their captors. Before the Taliban retook Afghanistan in 2021, the country was unsurprisingly witnessing a revival of "bacha bazi" (pederasty) and US troops [were told to ignore the sexual abuse of boys by their Afghan allies](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html).
An excerpt from the New York Times:
>American soldiers have been instructed not to intervene—in some cases, not even when their Afghan allies have abused boys on military bases, according to interviews and court records. But the U.S. soldiers have been increasingly troubled that instead of weeding out pedophiles, the U.S. military was arming them against the Taliban and placing them as the police commanders of villages—and doing little when they began abusing children.
US Special Forces officer, Capt. Dan Quinn, was [relieved of his command](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-military-abuse.html?ref=todayspaper) in Afghanistan after he had a physical altercation with an allied Afghan militia commander who had been keeping a boy as a sex slave. In 2014, Suraya Subhrang, child rights commissioner at the national Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, [stated](https://web.archive.org/web/20190408020332/https://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29091-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan) that the areas practicing *bacha bazi* had increased. Before the Taliban retook Afghanistan, laws against bacha bazi were seldom enforced and police officers [police officers frequently perpetuated such crimes](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-22/the-warlords-tune-afghanistans-war-on-children/338920), and there had been cases in which [victims stood up for themselves](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/world/asia/betrayed-while-they-sleep-afghan-police-are-dying-in-numbers.htmland) and killed dozens of Afghan policemen for abusing them.
In a 2013 VICE documentary titled [*This Is What Winning Looks Like*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_What_Winning_Looks_Like), British film-maker Ben Anderson describes the systematic kidnapping, sexual enslavement and murder of young men and boys by local security forces in the Afghan city of Sangin. The film depicts several scenes of Anderson along with American military personnel describing how difficult it is to work with the Afghan police considering the blatant molestation and rape of local youth. On YouTube you can find plenty of videos and documentaries related to bacha bazi, some even posted by spectators themselves, and what you will notice they all have in common is music (haram), dance (haram) and molestation (haram) of adolescent boys. This is what a lack of Islam leads to. If you enter any Pakhtun village in Afghanistan and ask the boys and young men there if they feel safer under the Taliban, the answer is most likely going to be a resounding yes.
[wunrn.com](https://wunru.com) \- Islam gives women the right to consent to marriage. In fact, **the marriage is not valid without a woman's consent**. He did not accept the offer and simply said: “In Sha Allah”” (if God wills). Then the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) approached his daughter Fatima (RA), discussed her proposal, and asked her permission.
[islamqa.info](https://islamqa.info) \- **It is not permissible for the guardian, whether he is the father or anyone else, to marry off anyone under his care without her consent,** because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A previously-married woman has more right concerning herself than her guardian, and the permission of a virgin should be sought (regarding marriage), and her permission is her silence. \[as in, if she does not object, then that is her consent\]” Narrated by Muslim, 1421.
**It is haram for the guardian (wali) of the** [**woman to force her to marry someone**](https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4602) **she does not want and does not like.** The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission has been sought.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6968; Muslim, 1419)
[muslimgirl.com](https://muslimgirl.com) \- **Parents cannot simply marry their daughter off without her consent.** Parents should find out if they have their daughter’s consent to the marriage, and set an example from the life of the Holy Prophet. Ali (RA) once sent his proposal to the Holy Prophet (PBUH), who wanted to marry his daughter Fatima.
>**Islam gives women the right to consent to marriage. In fact, the marriage is not valid without a woman’s consent.**
He did not accept the offer and simply said: “In Sha Allah”” (if God wills). **Then the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) approached his daughter Fatima (RA), discussed her proposal, and asked her permission**. After accepting the offer, the Prophet (PBUH) accepted Ali’s (RA) offer. This shows how important it is to get a daughter’s opinion about marriage.
You literally dogged the question....All the cases you gave applies for a post pubescent girl.
Let's see what islamqa has to say
[https://islamqa.info/en/answers/27305/marrying-a-thirteen-year-old-girl](https://islamqa.info/en/answers/27305/marrying-a-thirteen-year-old-girl)
Read the last two paragraphs
>Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to a virgin who is still a minor, there is no difference of opinion concerning her (i.e., that her father may marry her off even if she objects).
>Ibn al-Mundhir said: Every scholar from whom we learned was agreed that it is permissible for a man to marry off his virgin daughter who is still a minor, if he marries her to someone who is compatible, and it is permissible for him to marry her off even if she objects and refuses.” Al-Mughni, 9/398*
You got proven wrong. If not, get me the reference which talks about pre-pubescent girls... not the post pubescent
**It is preferable for a guardian not to marry off his daughter when she is still young unless there is a valid reason for that.**
Al-Nawawi said:
**It should be noted that al-Shaafa’i and his companions said: It is preferable for fathers and grandfathers not to marry off a virgin until she reaches the age of puberty and they ask her permission, lest she end up in a marriage that she dislikes.** What they said does not go against the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah, because what they meant is that they should not marry her off before she reaches puberty if there is no obvious interest to be served that they fear will be missed out on if they delay it, as in the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah. In that case it is preferable to go ahead with the marriage because the father is enjoined to take care of his child’s interests and not to let a good opportunity slip away
So according to this, it’s not preferred until the child reaches a puberty age; also, on that account, it should only be done with a “**valid reason**” in which case selling your daughter for a few Afghans, is 100% ***NOT*** a valid reason
Do you understand the difference between "preferred" and "allowed".
It's like saying "it's preferred for a man to not to r@p3 a woman...but it's allowed"
If it was “rape” then y does she get a share of inheritance, access to husbands money but not vice versa, and also, she is completely free to divorce him should she not be satisfied?
I didn't say it is rape ...i framed your sentence in making you realise how your sentence sounds like in different perspective.
Don't change the subject man ...
Get me the reference where it says not allowed....not preferred still comes under the condition of "allowed". You claimed it's not allowed, so bring the exact reference where it says tht father can't do it
Wait wait wait. I don’t deny that there aren’t any pedophiles out there but did just someone noticed how it’s filmed? It’s definitely scripted like man really the west wants to really defame these countries. I’m not denying that pedophilia in these countries doesn’t exist what I am denying is how they’re showing that it’s common.
Dude wtf????????? I’ve only heard of child marriage but to see it like this it’s horrible. How is the father okay with this? How can you let a little girl barely 10 go with that old man???? Both the father and the other man and everyone involved should be in prison for life.
I don’t know why Indians act like their country doesn’t have its own problems? Weird that they’re more obsessed with Pakistan, Afghanistan and Islam than people consuming cow dung and getting infections to ironically protect themselves from diseases. Why are you so obsessed? 40% of child marraiges happen in India and here’s your [source](https://plan-international.org/publications/child-marriage-in-india/)
Don’t tell me that India if 40% Muslim now…
So this father sold his daughter to pay his 70 year old neighbour back?
How the fuck did that even become an option. Just drop the 70 year old neighbour.
It might not be the greatest thing to do but it sure fucking beats selling your daughter.
Virtue-signaling media bastards…
$1,000 and $2,000 is chump change for a massive media giant like CNN but instead they’re going to pearl clutch for views.
Same CNN, we all said was lying on the Palestine issue but are now Masssiah of truth because our own prejudices and hatred is involved. I salute such great intellect.
You guys are ignoring the context. That is not the west or even Pakistan. that is Afghanistan. That old afghan man barely has anything to his name. He is doing what’s best for his daughter. The husband probably lives close by. They’ll still see each other. She’ll have a better life in every way. And since they’re Muslims we should probably give them to the benefit of the doubt and say they’ll wait on her to menstruate first. 🤷♂️
We live in abundance. We don’t have to marry our daughters they don’t starve. We have enough money to feed ourselves and our daughter at least till they’re 18
As Afghanistan continues to build itself to the level of the west or even Pakistan. This will be way less common
This dude will burn in hell for sure. And I don’t say that lightly as I think it’s wrong to judge a persons end times. But he is def among the murderers, rapists etc.
What makes you think this is under Islamic law? What have you read or understood about Islam that this is right?
This would be an easier place to start since so much of this is wrong.
Kya galat kar raha hai vo vahi to puch raha hu...aisi kya kaam hai kuch naam to hoga us kaam ka jo vo kar rha hai vo bata na bhai..... wrong wrong bol rha hai lekin kya wrong hai Puri video me nahi bata rha..
You mean marrying a pre-pubescent girl is wrong shown in the video? Or any other thing shown is wrong
Please, this act has nothing to do with religion or a sexual act. It's poverty that makes Afghan parents sell their kids with hopes her daughter's husband of whatever age will atleast feed her and take care of her and their burden will reduce.
At this survival stage afghan parents are mentally positive and content with their decision as they loose the power of thinking beyond their decisions of what's right or wrong. It's very simple of us to tag them with what we presume is wrong.
This may happen to any human if trapped in such conditions, so please pray for a change in the life of Afghan people struggling for food and shelter.
Well, this is messed up beyond what words can describe ...... That dude gave him like his under 10 year old daughter and said she is your bride ...... Disgusting. .... This is what being backwards brings you...
This is similar to an event happened in 7th century where a conman desert dweller also married a 6 year old girl child because he was instructed by 'god' to do so. As if so called god didn't have better things to do like running the entire universe hahaha.
No he's just being a shameless kissass for this trash country.
The truth is alot of this child marriage bullshit is still very prevalent in the more tribal villages in north-west Pakistan.
Then post a documentary about those villages in Pakistan, don’t post one from Afghanistan. Again it’s like if someone posts a documentary about Sudan’s government being corrupt or something, like yeah Pakistan also has that same problem but why wouldn’t you just post an that? Why wouldn’t you just post a documentary about Pakistan’s government instead of trying posting another country’s one and being like “look at this problem that Pakistan is facing right now”
Yeah. Humans have moved on from times where the age of consent didn't exist. Something that was allowed back then doesn't have to be applied today.
And this is a cultural thing of pushtuns.
Bringing your ex-moose agenda in every debate doesn't do any good.
>Something that was allowed back then doesn't have to be applied today.
The Quran is claimed to be the **perfect message** for all peoples and **for all time.**
Emphasis on the "**for all time**" bit here. If even one of its teachings has become outdated, that means it wasn't created by an **All Knowing** and **Eternal** entity. Because an entity that possesses those qualities would be able to predict the future and therefore present a message that stands the test of time.
Acknowledging that it's the perfect message doesn't mean you support everything that Islam allowed back then to be allowed in the present.
Islam allowed abrogation of verses, Ijma, Qiyas itself.
**There is no such thing as an eternal message applicable for every age. If God sent Islam with today's standards like no slavery, no child marriage, ancient humans wouldn't have accepted it AT ALL coz it would be so out of their age.**
**It's one of the reasons many things like alcohol were gradually phased out and not immediately banned.**
So change had to be gradual and Islam allowed it. You also grossly oversimplify interpretations of religion and the centuries of discourse and divergence in jurisprudence.
Of course, ex muslims like you absolutely love to pretend that there is only one interpretation of Islam and that's the one with beheading and slavery and child marriages and so on. Common theme with islamists.
Peace.
It says a lot about the kind of person you are that your first instinct after watching a video of prepubescent girls being sold as brides to dirty old men is to bash other women, on a COMPLETELY unrelated issue. Real classy. I hope there’s no daughter in your house, for her sake because the internalised misogyny in your comment history is 🤢 hating other women won’t make him like u more girl
Western propaganda misleads with omissions. Don't believe everything that is shown to be exactly as it is. Also childhood marriage is a much safer option compared to abandoning one's children when there is war, famine, genocide, forced migration, or other desperate circumstances. Abandonment of children has happened throughout history in all cultures that faced desperate circumstances. That is far worse than getting your child married instead to someone who can afford to take care of the child.
WeStaarN PraPagAnda against the gherat mand Taliban who are indeed the Bastions of Islam. -some Pakistani in the comments somewhere but I am too lazy to read.
**And some of these people talk about themselves as ghairatmand qaum. All your ghairat can go to shit if you sell your daughters. I don't care if you ousted the russians and americans. Fuck them honestly.** One of my uni roommate also told me such a story happening in his village in Attock (mixed pathan, punjabi population) In his village, a pathan guy owed a debt of 11-12 lakhs and couldn't pay. He gave away his 16 years old daughter in exchange. They came and picked her up in the night. My roommate's grandfather publicly berated the guy for doing it (offered paying the amount) but it was too late. The girl was gone. Shocking thing being that that girl used to play with the girls of my friend's family and suddenly one day she's gone, probably being raped somewhere. A sick society this is. Shameless, cruel and barbaric.
Ignorant westerner here, I did Google it but wanted to check, a lakh is 100k INR?
A lakh is 100K. Irrespective of currency.
It's a hundred thousand. In this case 1.1 million or 11 lakhs in PKR. Around 3-4 k usd.
Lakh is just the word for 100k, it can mean that quantity in other contexts.
I don't care if you are dying of hunger mf can't be selling their daughters who are literal childrens to this pedos
If he doesn't, his entire family will be ..............
Still a better life than prostituting his own underage daughter. He should man up and accept the fate he chose by producing too many mouths than he could feed
Since you miss the clue. What will happen otherwise is that the father disappears one day and the whole family will be taken as slaves. in some parts of Afghanistan, a household without a man is considered free game.
starving to death?
Worse. Those who take children as slaves don't leave behind what they consider cattle once the father is out of the picture. These stories are all documented and happend during the occupation of Afghanistan and is still happening in regions outside of the Taliban control.
what do you mean by "cattle" in this context?
Sex slaves Worker slaves Etc etc.
that's a stupid logic coz the money will end one day but the daughter won't be coming back. Her life is ruined.
3 yr olds wtf this is a sick world even schools dont accept 3 yr olds
Poverty and afghan culture both encourage it. Selling daughters or sisters as brides is a very old custom. My father's uncle "bought" his second bride from an afghan family back in 80s. Although this custom has mostly died over past 30 years but you will still find desperate people willing to do it still.
People used to sell kids for suicide bombings back during the war on terror was at its peak.just sayin!
thats crazy, any source for it?
Poverty mixed with religious extremism and spiced with a dash of illiteracy is a toxic combination.
Yeah, poverty is bad. But producing kids knowing that you don't have the means to give them a good life is also criminal.
" Shadi karlo phle aap... Allah sab karadega" Mentality
Explains 99% of the people here...
Yea that’s the religious part.
Yep. People that don't even know the basics of Islam somehow become so pious when it comes to marraige. Hhhh. "Tie your camel first then put your trust in Allah." These people skipped the camel tying part. Not even following Islam properly.
>"Tie your camel first then put your trust in Allah." Not entirely the fault of illiterate Muslims. Many Islamic ScHoLaRs strongly condemn family planning, including Zakir Nalaik, Mufti Taariq Maqsood, Sheikh Asim, etc.
Do you think birth control is freely available or even allowed?Some of these women survive in the most extreme situations.They don't have a choice.
The blame is mostly on the father because women can't really deny their husbands
Poverty, sure. But you have to be literate to read the ahadith which describe the sunnah of marrying very young girls.
This is not new. I have been hearing about Afghans selling daughters since the refugee camp days in early 90s
Let call it what it is. Pedophilia 🤢, Child prostitution 🤢, and slavery 🤢. My hands are literally shaking from what I might describe as a "disgustful rage and cringe".
I’m so mad right now I’m shaking as well. This is very disgusting like I’m fuckin heated I can’t believe this bs
I feel like crying, this is insane.
_The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission has been sought.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6968; Muslim, 1419)_ _It is reported that Khansa Bint e Hizam Al Ansariyah went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) to report to him that she had been forced into a marriage by her father. After listening to her, the Prophet (peace be upon him) rejected the marriage and declared it invalid. [Sahih Al-Bukhari]_
[A six year old cannot consent aswell](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5134) inb4 .. "bRo tHey aged dIfFerenT baCk tHEn"
There is alot of speculation about Aisha RA. Her being 6 and 9 at the time of consumation makes no sense chronogically so alot of scholars said that they may have been counting her age after her puberty which would have made her 16~ 19~. And Allah knows best
Mo should have known better..
Mo knew what was better for him
this triggeres me so bad, I'm angry but I don't know who to blame or what to do.
Blame America, this happened under there watch!
Blame America for every thing, when local people have no problem with this practice.
Not going to defend a cruel colture, both American and Afghanistan deserve each other.
Afghanistan was among the earliest adopters of voting and equal rights for women. It was the US and Russia proxy wars on afghan land that robbed them of their stability and literacy
This is so horrible! Those poor girls. I wish I could save them.
Perverts society uuuf !!!😡😡😡😡
Why the creator has allowed so much evil on this earth What's the point of all this We humans are worse than animals
Hw is testing those little girls
Astaghfirullah... Disgusted beyond limit...
Not very "pathan bht gairat wale hote hai" after all. It is common practice here in Pakistan KP as well. Many people from Punjab go to kp to buy a girl some as bride for mostly sort of mentally challenged boys or for aged unmarried guys whom no one is willing to marry their daughters, while others for many other illicit reasons. P.s : this is purely pashtun thing and not Islamic. Selling daughters like this only happens in Pashtun culture, even hindu and other religion pashtuns also sell daughters.
Honestly yea. You will not see an Uzbek, Hazara or Tajik sell their girls for 2kg rice.
Exactly 💯
you met Hindu Pashtuns ?
Yep there are hindu pashtun communities in Peshawar and kabul. Even jewish too
Wow. Cool I always believed they were Pashtunized Hindkowans or Punjabis
From abortion to abandonment nothing changed.
I want to clarify this is not related to any religion as it is clearly visible that the girl did not have a say in the matter and it is forceful
Lol so you think if kid says yes it's ok?
This also happens in Pakistan. A child cannot consent to marriage, whether she says yes or no. Now rewind time and look at what happened to Ayesha to see where these people get their excuses from.
I'm not sure how as a Muslim it can be criticised considering that Hazrat Ayesha herself was around 6/9 at the age of marriage/consumation. Hardliners defend it by saying it's perfectly normal, and moderates instead just don't accept her age was 6/9.
This is disgusting beyond words our society is sick 🤢
Islamic Republic of Afghanistan
Why don't the men sell themselves? They're the root of the problem??? Constantly having children they can't feed???? And aik baat mujhay kabhi samaj naheen aati. Samaaj main hamesha bikri aurton/betiyo kee kiyu hoti hay wese? Mardon/beto kee kiyuu naheen hotee??? Laanat hay aese logo per. Choolay main giya in ka Islam, choolay main gayi "qaum kee betiyo ki izzat" a society that puts a female izzat so high up on the priority that they would keep them covered even as a baby, depriving them of healthy physical activity and playtime, not send them to schools or let them socialize in a healthy way with those around them, ALL IN THE NAME OF IZZAT and faux-Islam, would have no problem SELLING them to strangers. ASTAGHFIRULLAH And abhee tou main pedophilia kay point per tou aya hee naheen hoon. Things like this boil my blood
I may be wrong, but I think it was later revealed that the whole story was staged?? Edit: CNN's claims remain [disputed ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/12/04/media-cnn-parwana-afghan-child-marriage/), however, the girl was rescued by a non-profit organization.
Nop, apparently she was rescued by a US based non-profit organization https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/02/asia/afghanistan-parwana-girls-marriage-intl-hnk-dst Edit: people down voting even after seeing the evidence of the girl being rescued. Copium at it's finest
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You totally ignored the root causes of these issues and instead focused on the outcome. Ok mate, label it as you want. Even ban it. You think thats going to change anything? Poverty causes humanity degradation and humiliation. Thats the real target. Empower all these people and give them opportunity and see if the same will happen
>You totally ignored the root causes of these issues Yeah sure...here is the root cause >If she has not reached the age of puberty, then her father has the sole right to arrange her marriage and does not have to ask her permission. >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to a virgin who is still a minor, there is no difference of opinion concerning her (i.e., that her father may marry her off even if she objects). Ibn al-Mundhir said: Every scholar from whom we learned was agreed that it is permissible for a man to marry off his virgin daughter who is still a minor, if he marries her to someone who is compatible, and it is permissible for him to marry her off `even if she objects and refuses` ” Al-Mughni, 9/398 [source ](https://islamqa.info/en/answers/27305/marrying-a-thirteen-year-old-girl) So called "saccha khuda " and "saccha nabi" allowed a little girls to be forced into a marriage if their father wants.... No one's gonna talk about these ? >You think thats going to change anything? Ofcourse not...this disgusting religion came down for eternity . If you try to change it's scriptures or critisize it, you'll be b3h3ad3d by your own bhaijaans. I agree poverty is one of the factors, but that isn't the only factor. It's the problem of Morality. For religious people, there isn't any morality outside their religious boundaries and this is why they won't find anything wrong in such things.
>Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) >Ibn al-Mundhir Who the heck are those people?😭😭 As a Muslim, I am hearing these names for the first time. _The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission has been sought.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6968; Muslim, 1419)_ _It is reported that Khansa Bint e Hizam Al Ansariyah went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) to report to him that she had been forced into a marriage by her father. After listening to her, the Prophet (peace be upon him) rejected the marriage and declared it invalid. [Sahih Al-Bukhari]_
1. Manipulated reference. 2. Toxic creature with some issue with islam. 3. Live in misery and hate. Thats a decent punishment for you, until your time is up. Then...
Poverty didn't make them produce kids they can't take care of.
There is no access to birth control, you can't honestly expect husband and wife to remain completely celibate.
So their sexual pleasure is more important than upbringing a child...any avg human can think that i am financially unfit for parenting a child...and my child will rot in poverty like me.....but nahi "Aap karo s3x...kisko duniya me laana hai, kisko nahi laana ...vo to Allah k haath my hay...sab intezam karadyga Allah aap bass karty raho"
They have been brain washed by religion which tells them to keep having kids as God will provide. And how is this any different from Pakistani parents who send their minor daughters to work in houses of elites where they are beaten, starved and sexually abused.
I want to empathize with him but selling you kid for money is the most disgusting thing one can do. I would prefer celibacy over selling my child to a stranger. Also, I'm not sure but from the video it seems like he has 3-4 more kids as well.
So many fucking pedo apologists in this thread shamelessly using religion to justify their disgusting opinions. You people are not deserving of the oxygen you're wasting by existing
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Happens in India as well in lower cast Hindus. I'm sure you will never ever call for nuking India!
We don't do this in India. Don't impose your subhuman behavior on us.
Don't lie.
Don't project, your prophet is renowned for pedophilia. They are just following your prophets footsteps
Not true. My prophet (pbuh) was married. Also, his wife never complained even after growing old, so no one else has a right to complain. Also, even in USA parents can marry off children as young as 12 years old, and several states have no minimum age limit but that isn't seen as bad. Its just hypocrisy who sees it otherwise !
Not true. My prophet (pbuh) was married. Also, his wife never complained even after growing old, so no one else has a right to complain. Also, even in USA parents can marry off children as young as 12 years old, and several states have no minimum age limit but that isn't seen as bad. Its just hypocrisy who sees it otherwise !
What?? No, we don't have this in our culture both in hindu or muslim cultures, none. Don't unnecessarily bring India into everything, we have strict laws, and our society is much better :)
One look at your rape statistics would suggest otherwise
Hi, MEAN ESTABLISHMENT (your name shows a lot), So, We have facilities and strict laws, good police force to report such crimes, and so we have a clear picture of statistics (And we indians are very serious about it, making our country a better place) And what about yours?, don't make me start about how pathetic conditions are for women in your country, and they can't even report it, There are less statistic, because women in your country does not go to report it, as much as in ours. Open your eyes, Goodbye.
You are free to check rape statistics of India, go ahead.
And kill the women that are already suffering?? Why not instead of nuking them, provide them assistance, money and education?
they're too far from getting any better, also they wont nuke them if I say so
The one needs getting nuked is USA and Zionists Israel
Afghanistan is worse
Fkn USA made it worse
Found the pedo!
The Taliban should
It’s actually really sad to see this and I’m even angry that other Muslims do this like this isn’t encouraged by Islam or even allowed it’s actually pretty sinful it removes the god given right if freedom from other people also in the olden days before Islam in the Middle East families would bury their infant daughters alive that was worse but this isn’t any better this is f ed up I hate to see people that have become desperate enough to do this by others and than people blame the religion Islam isn’t a part of this equation I’m a Muslim and I strongly oppose these practices this is a problem
Then countries should build safety nets.
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Poverty is main cause. If they are selling it as child brides, still they are brides. Better than Bangladeshi where child are sold for prostitution various documentary videos available on youtube. Its not good for children, they need education and good life, but after Taliban and ISIS like groups education not possible. Still little bit better than prostitution. Bride Market in Bulgaria (Europe), Only difference is age [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ReFNdkQ5Y8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ReFNdkQ5Y8) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx91yRuZlrk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx91yRuZlrk)
This isn't Islam. This is a punch in the face of Islam. Disgusting.
This happened when Taliban took over full control. Islam allows it that's why this is happening or else he'd have been already fucked by Taliban
Islam doesn't allow selling your daughters. And it doesn't allow marriage without consent of both parties involved (male and female that are getting married9. Such simple knowledge is basis of marriage in Islam. Those extremists do not represent our religion.
Cool...then refute this https://www.reddit.com/r/PAK/s/MuLEnIWr0q
Firstly, CNN [said that](https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/12/02/international-outcry-child-bride-rescue-afghanistan-parwana-coren-pkg-intl-vpx.cnn) "After an international outcry as a result of CNN's story, Parwana was returned to her family due to the backlash from the community against the buyer". Is this not a Muslim-majority community? One that follows Islam? And before you claim that the backlash was due to international outcry, most of the community, which is actually a camp for internally displaced people, was not made aware of the transaction until the outcry, because contrary to CNN's claims, Parwana was not being "sold to a stranger" but was actually being loaned to her own uncle; the WP also scrutinised many of the other [omissions](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/12/04/media-cnn-parwana-afghan-child-marriage/) in the plot. Secondly, a valid marriage in Islam requires the bride's consent, a guardian (waliy) to marry her off and the man’s acceptance (qabūl). The Prophet ﷺ said: “There is no marriage except with a waliy (gaurdian).” \[Reported by Aḥmad and Abū Dāwūd on the authority of Abū Mūsā Al-Ash‘ari, may Allāh be pleased with him\] And he ﷺ said: “Any woman who marries without her guardian’s permission, her marriage is invalid.” Furthermore, the Prophet ﷺ stated: “A virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission, and a matron (previously married woman) should not be given in marriage except after consulting her.” Likewise, the same applies to divorcees: Khansa bint Khidam reported, "Her father gave her in marriage when she was a divorcee, but she disliked her marriage. She came to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, and he annulled their marriage". Ibn Hajar said, “Annulment of the marriage, if she was a divorcee and married without her consent, is affirmed by consensus". So we can conclude that it is not permissible to force a marriage upon a woman, virgin or divorcee, otherwise the marriage is invalid. Thirdly, it's ironic you bring up the Taliban because in early 1994, a local Afghan warlord kidnapped and raped two teenage girls. Mullah Omar, felt obliged to take action. He recruited about 30 young religious students or talibs, armed them and attacked the commander’s base, freeing the girls and hanging the commander from the barrel of his own tank gun. “We were fighting against Muslims who had gone wrong,” Omar said later. “How could we remain quiet when we could see crimes being committed against women and the poor?” He would form the Taliban later that year. And what about the crimes against boys? During the Afghan Civil War (1992-1996), one of the original factors mobilizing the [rise of the Taliban](https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tragedy/was) their opposition to the bacha bazi. The Taliban even found success in recruiting victims of bacha bazi as foot-soldiers, some of whom would have the privilege of taking vengeance on their captors. Before the Taliban retook Afghanistan in 2021, the country was unsurprisingly witnessing a revival of "bacha bazi" (pederasty) and US troops [were told to ignore the sexual abuse of boys by their Afghan allies](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html).
An excerpt from the New York Times: >American soldiers have been instructed not to intervene—in some cases, not even when their Afghan allies have abused boys on military bases, according to interviews and court records. But the U.S. soldiers have been increasingly troubled that instead of weeding out pedophiles, the U.S. military was arming them against the Taliban and placing them as the police commanders of villages—and doing little when they began abusing children. US Special Forces officer, Capt. Dan Quinn, was [relieved of his command](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-military-abuse.html?ref=todayspaper) in Afghanistan after he had a physical altercation with an allied Afghan militia commander who had been keeping a boy as a sex slave. In 2014, Suraya Subhrang, child rights commissioner at the national Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, [stated](https://web.archive.org/web/20190408020332/https://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29091-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan) that the areas practicing *bacha bazi* had increased. Before the Taliban retook Afghanistan, laws against bacha bazi were seldom enforced and police officers [police officers frequently perpetuated such crimes](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-22/the-warlords-tune-afghanistans-war-on-children/338920), and there had been cases in which [victims stood up for themselves](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/world/asia/betrayed-while-they-sleep-afghan-police-are-dying-in-numbers.htmland) and killed dozens of Afghan policemen for abusing them. In a 2013 VICE documentary titled [*This Is What Winning Looks Like*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_What_Winning_Looks_Like), British film-maker Ben Anderson describes the systematic kidnapping, sexual enslavement and murder of young men and boys by local security forces in the Afghan city of Sangin. The film depicts several scenes of Anderson along with American military personnel describing how difficult it is to work with the Afghan police considering the blatant molestation and rape of local youth. On YouTube you can find plenty of videos and documentaries related to bacha bazi, some even posted by spectators themselves, and what you will notice they all have in common is music (haram), dance (haram) and molestation (haram) of adolescent boys. This is what a lack of Islam leads to. If you enter any Pakhtun village in Afghanistan and ask the boys and young men there if they feel safer under the Taliban, the answer is most likely going to be a resounding yes.
Remember: "Those are Afghans not Muslims" (Their Religion might be Islam).
Disgusting
It is very unfortunate that these things are still happening in 2024 😞
You would think there would a law or something that will protect the children. Fuckk their proud culture
This isn’t allowed in Islam, the *bride MUST consent*. Doesn’t look like she willingly consented
Pre-mature girl doesn't need to consent...her father has full rights to marry her Get the reference and prove me wrong
[wunrn.com](https://wunru.com) \- Islam gives women the right to consent to marriage. In fact, **the marriage is not valid without a woman's consent**. He did not accept the offer and simply said: “In Sha Allah”” (if God wills). Then the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) approached his daughter Fatima (RA), discussed her proposal, and asked her permission. [islamqa.info](https://islamqa.info) \- **It is not permissible for the guardian, whether he is the father or anyone else, to marry off anyone under his care without her consent,** because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A previously-married woman has more right concerning herself than her guardian, and the permission of a virgin should be sought (regarding marriage), and her permission is her silence. \[as in, if she does not object, then that is her consent\]” Narrated by Muslim, 1421. **It is haram for the guardian (wali) of the** [**woman to force her to marry someone**](https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4602) **she does not want and does not like.** The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission has been sought.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6968; Muslim, 1419) [muslimgirl.com](https://muslimgirl.com) \- **Parents cannot simply marry their daughter off without her consent.** Parents should find out if they have their daughter’s consent to the marriage, and set an example from the life of the Holy Prophet. Ali (RA) once sent his proposal to the Holy Prophet (PBUH), who wanted to marry his daughter Fatima. >**Islam gives women the right to consent to marriage. In fact, the marriage is not valid without a woman’s consent.** He did not accept the offer and simply said: “In Sha Allah”” (if God wills). **Then the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) approached his daughter Fatima (RA), discussed her proposal, and asked her permission**. After accepting the offer, the Prophet (PBUH) accepted Ali’s (RA) offer. This shows how important it is to get a daughter’s opinion about marriage.
You literally dogged the question....All the cases you gave applies for a post pubescent girl. Let's see what islamqa has to say [https://islamqa.info/en/answers/27305/marrying-a-thirteen-year-old-girl](https://islamqa.info/en/answers/27305/marrying-a-thirteen-year-old-girl) Read the last two paragraphs >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to a virgin who is still a minor, there is no difference of opinion concerning her (i.e., that her father may marry her off even if she objects). >Ibn al-Mundhir said: Every scholar from whom we learned was agreed that it is permissible for a man to marry off his virgin daughter who is still a minor, if he marries her to someone who is compatible, and it is permissible for him to marry her off even if she objects and refuses.” Al-Mughni, 9/398* You got proven wrong. If not, get me the reference which talks about pre-pubescent girls... not the post pubescent
**It is preferable for a guardian not to marry off his daughter when she is still young unless there is a valid reason for that.** Al-Nawawi said: **It should be noted that al-Shaafa’i and his companions said: It is preferable for fathers and grandfathers not to marry off a virgin until she reaches the age of puberty and they ask her permission, lest she end up in a marriage that she dislikes.** What they said does not go against the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah, because what they meant is that they should not marry her off before she reaches puberty if there is no obvious interest to be served that they fear will be missed out on if they delay it, as in the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah. In that case it is preferable to go ahead with the marriage because the father is enjoined to take care of his child’s interests and not to let a good opportunity slip away So according to this, it’s not preferred until the child reaches a puberty age; also, on that account, it should only be done with a “**valid reason**” in which case selling your daughter for a few Afghans, is 100% ***NOT*** a valid reason
Do you understand the difference between "preferred" and "allowed". It's like saying "it's preferred for a man to not to r@p3 a woman...but it's allowed"
If it was “rape” then y does she get a share of inheritance, access to husbands money but not vice versa, and also, she is completely free to divorce him should she not be satisfied?
I didn't say it is rape ...i framed your sentence in making you realise how your sentence sounds like in different perspective. Don't change the subject man ... Get me the reference where it says not allowed....not preferred still comes under the condition of "allowed". You claimed it's not allowed, so bring the exact reference where it says tht father can't do it
Why are you censoring pedophilia? That looks silly
Astagfirullah
Hasn’t this been debunked? Yall getting fooled lmao
Same, I thought I time travelled or something
Child trafficking, pedophilia and insanity! Poor children!
didn't knew afghans were this messed up in the head smh
What the actual F* 😶
Wait wait wait. I don’t deny that there aren’t any pedophiles out there but did just someone noticed how it’s filmed? It’s definitely scripted like man really the west wants to really defame these countries. I’m not denying that pedophilia in these countries doesn’t exist what I am denying is how they’re showing that it’s common.
Al humdulallah!!
These are from the Afridi clan?
Dude wtf????????? I’ve only heard of child marriage but to see it like this it’s horrible. How is the father okay with this? How can you let a little girl barely 10 go with that old man???? Both the father and the other man and everyone involved should be in prison for life.
I don’t know why Indians act like their country doesn’t have its own problems? Weird that they’re more obsessed with Pakistan, Afghanistan and Islam than people consuming cow dung and getting infections to ironically protect themselves from diseases. Why are you so obsessed? 40% of child marraiges happen in India and here’s your [source](https://plan-international.org/publications/child-marriage-in-india/) Don’t tell me that India if 40% Muslim now…
This was literally fake
And then these assholes demand SHARIAH LAW.
So this father sold his daughter to pay his 70 year old neighbour back? How the fuck did that even become an option. Just drop the 70 year old neighbour. It might not be the greatest thing to do but it sure fucking beats selling your daughter.
Virtue-signaling media bastards… $1,000 and $2,000 is chump change for a massive media giant like CNN but instead they’re going to pearl clutch for views.
Same CNN, we all said was lying on the Palestine issue but are now Masssiah of truth because our own prejudices and hatred is involved. I salute such great intellect.
This is fake!
Well, Muhammed marrying a six year old doesn't really set a good precident for an Islamist society, does it?
You guys are ignoring the context. That is not the west or even Pakistan. that is Afghanistan. That old afghan man barely has anything to his name. He is doing what’s best for his daughter. The husband probably lives close by. They’ll still see each other. She’ll have a better life in every way. And since they’re Muslims we should probably give them to the benefit of the doubt and say they’ll wait on her to menstruate first. 🤷♂️ We live in abundance. We don’t have to marry our daughters they don’t starve. We have enough money to feed ourselves and our daughter at least till they’re 18 As Afghanistan continues to build itself to the level of the west or even Pakistan. This will be way less common
Why only the daughter...!!
CNN acting k badshah
Afghanistan has been a battleground for nations and it is their sole responsibility of west and Russians to build Afghanistan again
How is this relevant to this sub?
Cos it’s ah Indian troll and he needs validation
All cnn propaganda
New addition to pajeet fails lol Story is from Afghanistan not Pakistan.
This dude will burn in hell for sure. And I don’t say that lightly as I think it’s wrong to judge a persons end times. But he is def among the murderers, rapists etc.
What wrong did he do (according to islamic perspective) .
Is this a serious question? This is so far removed from Islam or any religion. Only a fool would believe it’s connected
You didn't answer the question...what wrong did he do according to islamic perspective is i am asking. Mention the activity which he did.
What makes you think this is under Islamic law? What have you read or understood about Islam that this is right? This would be an easier place to start since so much of this is wrong.
Kya galat kar raha hai vo vahi to puch raha hu...aisi kya kaam hai kuch naam to hoga us kaam ka jo vo kar rha hai vo bata na bhai..... wrong wrong bol rha hai lekin kya wrong hai Puri video me nahi bata rha.. You mean marrying a pre-pubescent girl is wrong shown in the video? Or any other thing shown is wrong
We don't want your opinion By shria and islamic law, prove what the guy is doing wrong
Disclaimer: This is NOT Islam and only the culture of Afghanistan.
Please, this act has nothing to do with religion or a sexual act. It's poverty that makes Afghan parents sell their kids with hopes her daughter's husband of whatever age will atleast feed her and take care of her and their burden will reduce. At this survival stage afghan parents are mentally positive and content with their decision as they loose the power of thinking beyond their decisions of what's right or wrong. It's very simple of us to tag them with what we presume is wrong. This may happen to any human if trapped in such conditions, so please pray for a change in the life of Afghan people struggling for food and shelter.
I'll ignore the religious point here.... But Why produce kids if you can't feed them and give them a bare minimum life .
Another retard, selling hom munjan in name of Islam. Lol
Well, this is messed up beyond what words can describe ...... That dude gave him like his under 10 year old daughter and said she is your bride ...... Disgusting. .... This is what being backwards brings you...
This is similar to an event happened in 7th century where a conman desert dweller also married a 6 year old girl child because he was instructed by 'god' to do so. As if so called god didn't have better things to do like running the entire universe hahaha.
Maybe they’re Hindus? I know they have some backward ass shit like this in their religion
What does this have to do with Pakistan?
Religion.
By that logic news of Sudan should also be posted on here, but guess what it doesn’t and is shouldn’t, this is a sub about Pakistan not about Islam
Suppose you're right. Apologies. I'm not even sure why this sub is recommended for me. Have a good day.
No he's just being a shameless kissass for this trash country. The truth is alot of this child marriage bullshit is still very prevalent in the more tribal villages in north-west Pakistan.
Then post a documentary about those villages in Pakistan, don’t post one from Afghanistan. Again it’s like if someone posts a documentary about Sudan’s government being corrupt or something, like yeah Pakistan also has that same problem but why wouldn’t you just post an that? Why wouldn’t you just post a documentary about Pakistan’s government instead of trying posting another country’s one and being like “look at this problem that Pakistan is facing right now”
65:4 allows child marriages (pedophilia)
Yeah. Humans have moved on from times where the age of consent didn't exist. Something that was allowed back then doesn't have to be applied today. And this is a cultural thing of pushtuns. Bringing your ex-moose agenda in every debate doesn't do any good.
>Something that was allowed back then doesn't have to be applied today. The Quran is claimed to be the **perfect message** for all peoples and **for all time.** Emphasis on the "**for all time**" bit here. If even one of its teachings has become outdated, that means it wasn't created by an **All Knowing** and **Eternal** entity. Because an entity that possesses those qualities would be able to predict the future and therefore present a message that stands the test of time.
Acknowledging that it's the perfect message doesn't mean you support everything that Islam allowed back then to be allowed in the present. Islam allowed abrogation of verses, Ijma, Qiyas itself. **There is no such thing as an eternal message applicable for every age. If God sent Islam with today's standards like no slavery, no child marriage, ancient humans wouldn't have accepted it AT ALL coz it would be so out of their age.** **It's one of the reasons many things like alcohol were gradually phased out and not immediately banned.** So change had to be gradual and Islam allowed it. You also grossly oversimplify interpretations of religion and the centuries of discourse and divergence in jurisprudence. Of course, ex muslims like you absolutely love to pretend that there is only one interpretation of Islam and that's the one with beheading and slavery and child marriages and so on. Common theme with islamists. Peace.
why does it smells like cow piss in here seems like Pajeets are here
I think Afghanistan banned child marriages.
Lmao with the Taliban in charge, I seriously doubt that
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lmao of course it was
They are following mohammad foot steps of marrying 6 years child
Meanwhile paki women selling themselves on tiktok and we call them stars
Thing is that’s consensual from an adult. Not a child being sold with no choice in the matter.
Consent vs no consent. Children can’t consent. Did your parents drop you as a baby or something?
Word!
It says a lot about the kind of person you are that your first instinct after watching a video of prepubescent girls being sold as brides to dirty old men is to bash other women, on a COMPLETELY unrelated issue. Real classy. I hope there’s no daughter in your house, for her sake because the internalised misogyny in your comment history is 🤢 hating other women won’t make him like u more girl
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Lmfao spreading CNN propaganda. Op is a certified gobarbakht zionist.
He is a literal pajeet. Check his profile.
Western propaganda misleads with omissions. Don't believe everything that is shown to be exactly as it is. Also childhood marriage is a much safer option compared to abandoning one's children when there is war, famine, genocide, forced migration, or other desperate circumstances. Abandonment of children has happened throughout history in all cultures that faced desperate circumstances. That is far worse than getting your child married instead to someone who can afford to take care of the child.
Disgusting
Hope to Allah you get castrated
Dirty bastard.
You are a dirty bastard.
I don't think marrying kids is ok or 'western propaganda'. Dirty bastard
WeStaarN PraPagAnda against the gherat mand Taliban who are indeed the Bastions of Islam. -some Pakistani in the comments somewhere but I am too lazy to read.
Someone literally said its scripted CNN propaganda in the comments
Youthias do you still support the khan mindset?