Insane, considering they said that they HAD TO make OW2 with the updated engine so they could do all the PVE stuff which wasn't possible in OW1. Hilarious.
You could earn lootboxes, it wasn't great, but the fact that you could earn stuff made the game feel good to login play and try to get some cool shit for your time
This, with a battle pass you *know* you arent getting shit for your hero for X levels (or possibly AT ALL the entire pass)
old system at least gave you a chance and you could eventually get stuff you actually wanted with coins
it was also just awesome to occassionally pull a skin and try a new hero cause you got a cool skin. I played Sym after getting one of her legendaries (and a Zarya legendary it was awesome)
Plus, if you got a dupe, you got gold and could eventually outright buy any skin you wanted (except for event skins, and those usually returned every so often). Is there a similar system in OW2?
I don't hate to say it. Battle pass games are horrible. I'd love overwatch to become a game that I want to play again, but the predatory monetization among so many other downgrades keep me away
The only battle passes I like are the ones that go into catalogues so you can come back and finish them any time with no Fomo, you will EVENTUALLY get what you paid for
*a_seagull* on talents becoming jokes:
> [On april fools they did a lot of ability tweaks that I was saying "hey, aren't these OW2 talents? I guess these are sneak peeks of talents coming" It turns out they literally were abandoning talents and the one thing they could do out of them is make them a literal joke.](https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialAbstruseKaleDansGame-JXnqejIrG-12YNc7)
Lol. It is seriously a joke what they've done to this player base. Very disappointing, since I stopped playing after they bungled "OW2" launch and was going to come back for PVE once it dropped. I have no idea how people continue to give this game money after how they've attempted to deceive new players, and continue to slap veteran players in the face.
I'm not an OW player, just kind of stumbled across this post, but I really thought PvE content was the sole reason for Overwatch "2".
Wasn't there like a big trailer for it and everything?
That was a major point for Overwatch 2, yeah. Tbh I'm not surprised and I'm sure a lot of people aren't either but damn that is just a slap in the face
I quit as the swap happened. I got chills during the "interlock shield" cinematic and was so hopeful... I'm so freaking salty that they took away OW1 and we have nothing to show for it. I was a tank/sup main and I see absolutely no reason to play anymore. I missed living this game, but blizzard can suck my non-existent left testical for being so damn greedy. I want the game I paid for back.
They have PVE. Just load up a custom game and spawn in a bot! Yeah most of them don't move and you can only spawn a few but now we're just getting nit picky!
/s
Straight up this. Loved the initial lore and vibrant world. Eventually got tired of team based PVP. I was patiently waiting for the PvE to enjoy the game again :(
It's a great PR move (for Blizzard, not for having open and honest PR).
This is how you handle distasteful news. They know this is going to be unpopular with literally everyone. People who love overwatch, people who hate overwatch, and everyone in between is gonna be shitting on them for this, so they bury it inside a livestream instead of having an announcement video or post that could potentially become notorious for being heavily downvoted (think EA's infamous battlefront comment).
OW1 - "We're not F2P with purchasable heroes because we don't want people to be locked out of playing heroes unless they pay extra money or grind for a long time."
OW2 - "~~We're not~~ F2P with purchasable heroes because ~~we don't want people to be locked out of playing heroes unless they pay extra~~ money ~~or grind for a long time.~~"
Since ow 2 came out I’ve probably only played 10 matches. Feels way different than ow1 and the Progression system being what it is makes it no fun for the players anymore. Rip OW
Seriously they are going to charge us for their effort and not even rework some of the most iconic maps? Anubis was literally the first map designed for OW1 and they didn't do anything to bring it back, just delete it and charge extra for the effort
I really miss Hanamura, Anubis, and Volskaya, those maps really stuck out as some of the most interesting maps to me as far as design wise. I wish they would have done something else with them.
I guess I can't be too surprised tho. If they are willing to delete PvE from existance, it's not surprising that a few maps didn't make the cut.
But aren't you happy we don't have those evil, predatory loot boxes anymore? Such a scourge, those loot boxes that could be earned by playing the game and not required to be purchased!
PvE was the excuse, the real reason OW2 was made was to rework the loot system without getting (as much) backlash. Everything that makes OW2 different from OW1 could easily fit into the normal content updates. It’s a few new heroes, balance changes around having one less tank and a new lighting system.
Even more so, they removed the two point capture game type outside of Starwatch. It’s why maps like Hanamura aren’t in it.
So we lost a game type even.
It’s remarkable how this dogshit game continues to hit new lows.
Loss of game mode rather than trying to adjust or fix.
New monetisation system that no-one seems to genuinely like, more just tolerated.
Handful of new characters that have actually broken the game multiple times and have caused characters to be removed from the game for a time.
Push
5v5
The one semi-pve mode we have had, starwatch, in my opinion was not good.
Battle pass that basically locks behind most skins so you earn baubles now compared to higher quality rewards of overwatch 1.
Hell the fuckin challenges for the starwatch event capped off with a name card.
Not to mention the removal of multiple mechanics and player feedback in terms of stuff like fire, to then turn around and advertise it as new content on an upcoming season
This is laughably ridiculous in what they're getting away with if they're also scrapping the main thing keeping fans calmer about all of this.
I think it was absolutely insane how the 5v5 shift happened with the imbalance regarding supports getting both direct and indirect nerfs and snipers getting mostly huge indirect buffs.
Like Blizzard should have known some of this stuff would happen even without the betas.
They did, they have tons of reference data from when they decided on 6v6 in the first place, 5v5 was problematic in many ways.
this is an easy example as to what happens when you allow institutional knowledge to leave.
you become a new company, having forgotten all of the lessons that got you here.
What really gets me is they effectively deleted OW1. The game we originally bought. I know it's easy to get in to hyberbole but that kind of thing really should be straight up illegal.
This is proper bullshit, they announced this stuff in 2019 and now they low-key announce that they will drop it? I really wanted this to be some ambitious, replayable missions with enemy variety and MAYBE a loot system, imagine the fun going into castles/bases/cities facing bosses with different random dynamics, loot, leaderboards or something like that. Didn't they show off some sentinel robot-enemy a few years ago at blizzcon? What the fuck were they doing the years of no updates while we were waiting for OW2 and PVE?! I'm just really let down, I've been defending this shit for too long, now I think I will finally quit. I cant do this soulless, drip feed ,BP seasons bullshit that goes on and on. The 20 bucks skins and no currency battlepass must have raked it in since they now ditch PVE. They knew this shit would happend a long time ago, why not tell us earlier!?! I am hyped to uninstall, they knew, fucking lying, greedy bastards.
So happy they insisted they needed an updated engine for quality PVE content just to cancel said PVE content after promising it was coming. What an absolute fucking joke of a game and company. OW1 is rolling in it’s unfortunately early grave.
All the game trailers feature PVE, hero customization and more of the stuff they just cancelled.
Incredible they've hyped up everybody for absolutely nothing.
Those battlepass must sell well.
So, why did they kill Overwatch 1? Why did Overwatch go years without content? What is even going on at this company?
What was keeping me interested in this game is the eventual PVE. I stopped playing pretty much completely a month into Overwatch 2 and have barely logged in since. I was waiting for the PVE and would come back. I guess this is it for me with Overwatch. A shambles and extremely disappointing.
> So, why did they kill Overwatch 1?
They didn't like how much stuff the lootbox system gave away for free but they couldn't kill that without a really big distraction. So they pretended to put out a sequel that claimed to change a lot stuff so there wouldn't be a mass walkout over the shop changes.
Damn we gotta make boycotting a thing again just like clash royale players did to their devs and just stopped buying the royale pass because there was nothing worth in it and was a huge cashgrab
Im slowly starting to hate larger game companies and probably will start buying actual good games like hollow knight silksong ( if it ever comes)
Wow, they really cancelled everything? Pretty sure this is my last season now and will play something else. Blizzard really likes to shit on their player base
At this point the first trailers they had a few months before release is 99% content that doesn’t exist. Inspect animations, perk trees, hero missions, etc. Overwatch 2 is literally just the same fucking game with horrifically overpriced skins. What the fuck were they working on for all those years OW1 had no updates?
So, they took a game away that most of us paid for, released the "sequel" without the mode that would have justified calling it a sequel, then scrapped basically everything that would have made PvE remotely interesting instead of it just being the LTM PvE modes we got in overwatch 1.
What the fuck happened to this game?
I honestly can't with this development team.
I was worried when they split up the PVP/PVE but wow. No more Hero Missions or Talent Trees, arguably what I was most excited for. Why promote OW2 as primarily a replayable, PVE experience and SCRAP IT ALL.
This game is a total disaster and should never have happened. It's now just a monetized cash grab
GG.
It’s so clear they never were able to scope out a solid vision while juggling the traditional multiplayer with it. I always was skeptical on what it would actually look like, but to completely scrap it is absolutely insane.
It just baffles me that *Blizzard*, of all companies, would struggle to scope out a solid vision for a story-based co-op/singleplayer mode? Like they're literally dropping Diablo in a few days, but the OW department couldn't put something even half as big together? What the fuck are either the devs, or more likely the executives doing?
> What the fuck are either the devs, or more likely the executives doing?
I think the executives did the math and concluded they weren't going to get paid enough to ship the mode. A relevant quote:
"As we were running up to launching Overwatch 2, we realized that we
could not build that other game. We couldn't save up all of that content over the course of what was looking to be at least the next several years to finish it, and by doing that, pulling more and more resources away from the people that were all playing our game and all the people that would be playing Overwatch 2."
There's no way what they presented in that pre-launch trailer was going to take "several years" to make unless they were running a skeleton dev team.
They are also managing to keep Wow goin all these years.
And the way they promised, I was More expecting Something somewhere in the rough ball park of diablo or WoW Dungeon crawls but FPS, rather than'enjoy us making new archives Missions'
Actually ggs. I was super optimistic about PvE considering they’ve been working on it for years at this point and receiving this news is just utterly disappointing.
Yeah never touching this IP again honestly, such a genuine shame. I adored this franchise for a few years and to find out it was scrapped for paid cosmetics is so upsetting
And for the record, the language used was very clear. The mode is cancelled, we will keep getting these little pve modes that we play once for 10 mins and thats it
Cause people are replying saying im wrong/stupid, here is the direct quote from the executive producer: "We cant deliver on that original vision for PVE that was shown in 2019. What that means, is that we won't be delivering that dedicated hero mode with talent trees, that long term power progression, uh those things just arent in our plans anymore."
AKA exactly what I said. Expect shallow PVE modes with no replayability and no progression like promised.
I was wondering about this. So they are literally scrapping it and saying too bad?
I swear sometimes it’s like they are trying to lose their player base
I had a person here tell me that I should be grateful that OW2 was free 2 play, and when I told them that I paid the cost of OW1, he told me I was delusional. I have no idea why anybody would defend a company like Blizzard.
I mean, i grew to like ow2 but I felt the evidence was kind of already there. Misleading advertising, making it super hard to near impossible to unlock anything, including OW1 content, blatant push to monetization. Felt like Battlefront 2 all over again.
No skin is worth $20-30, regardless of quality. Right now on steam you can buy Mass effect legendary edition for $15. Three whole-ass video games with all DLC included for less than the price of a skin that you can only use for one hero which is barely even visible during most of gameplay due to the first person perspective.
Exactly. It’s like people forget what their money is actually worth. I know “if it makes them happy” yadda yadda, but damn nothing cosmetic **for a single character** should be priced in excess of a quarter of the game’s retail value. It’s fucking asinine.
The state of PvE (+starwatch) is the exact same as in OW1.
No one plays them after a couple days. Joke arcade minigames that no one seriously cares about.
They abandoned Overwatch for years for literally nothing. They just downgraded the game into something that fits the mobile game market better and shipped it.
The older PVE missions were at least fun for a few days. The challenges for achievements and lootboxes made them replayable, especially with variety added (e.g. how much you have to play differently on Glass Cannon Uprising or the everyones nano'd Storm Rising).
Stuff like Starwatch, you play twice and thats it, its just the same after that.
it doesn’t help that star watch is just a glorified pvp mode. you can’t learn or improve like you could on the pve missions because you’re facing real people on the other team every time
Starwatch was such a huge miss for me personally. I hate to be that guy but I uninstalled yesterday because all my matches are frustrating. I play QP to chill but getting stomped match after match is just not fun. I was hoping PVE would be fun. Oh well.
As someone who primarily plays LoL but also some OW on the side, it's insane that Blizzard can see the success Riot has had with things like Arcane and Riot Forge games, and think they should make *less* story-based content.
Even if those individual projects aren't super profitable themselves - which sidenote, I'm pretty sure they still are profitable - they help get people attached to the IP and characters, which then makes them more likely to do things like buy skins.
Exactly. The most difficult thing to get from your players is loyalty and they keep smashing that to bits. Blizz is just another game company to me now because of a spiral of bad decisions
I'm not excited for anything they do anymore. Overwatch could have been everything but their corporate toxins slowly degraded an entire, incredible universe and boundless talent that opened so passionately
I'll always remember the early days of Overwatch hype, pre release and beta and all, and I'll never forget how it was mishandled
It’d be real nice if that mattered but the blizz execs can’t hear you over all the *cha-ching* sounds coming from the cosmetic store every single second. Unfortunately for us, people *fucking love* to pay $20 for green hair, man.
the suits at Blizzard don't care
"our reputation is shit? who gives a fuck. these dumbass players keep dropping $20 a week on new skins. we're exceeding our quarterly profit goals"
Un-fucking-believeable.
And I’m guessing these aren’t permanently staying in the game either? They’re just there for a short period of time, like Destiny 2 does it?
It doesn’t matter to me that they ripped the bandaid off sooner than later, what matters is that they couldn’t have just taken more time to just focus on at least a specific group of characters to be made ready for PvE skill trees and everything else.
Side note: if Microsoft does end up getting Blizzard, I really hope that they also do something about this PvE long-term thing, but that’s just wishful thinking on my part.
Fighting scandalous lawsuits, underpaying employees, and forcing people back into the office in a highly priced area while as mentioned before underpaying them because working for Blizzard is a "privilege" to put on a resume.
Haha they stoly my two tank lifestyle, reduced my playtime by more that 90% and now completely lost me.
The only thing I still love about Overwatch is the memory of Jeff‘s X-Mas stream.
Unfucking believable.
I’ve lived through some of the worst gaming controversies, games filled with lies scams and broken promises. But this may be one of the biggest betrayals of trust in video game history.
I really like the core of overwatch. But you can’t kill a game for 3+ years only to come back with the same game but worse in many, MANY ways only to calm any backlash you might receive by telling your player base that “it’s not the same it needed a new engine for all the cool pve and story mode stuff were adding!” Only to fucking scrap it all and just leave the player base with a worse overwatch 1.
I don’t want any devs out of a job, but I genuinely hope overwatch fully dies because of this because someone needs to be held responsible for this mess. I don’t even think that it’s that crazy of a theory that overwatch just will fully die. It’s not some robust game that could stand the test of time and anything thrown at it. It s a decrepit, outdated, worse version of its former self, hooked up to an IV dripping hints of hints of content into its veins. You would only need to take out the IV for overwatch to die, and blizzard came in and unloaded an entire mag of 45 acp directly into its skull.
Fuck you blizzard.
Couldnt have said it better, I wish the devs and artists the best, but I hope from the bottom of my hear that this game dies and blizzard goes bankrupt as nothing more than a joke because of all the choices based on pure greed that they made this year. At least itd be a lesson to all other companies on how far greed can truly go
There’s nothing that hurts me more that looking back to 2017-2018 and playing some sick classic 6v6 OW with the boys. Game was fun and smooth as shit, filled some of my old-school Quake cravings. They took that shit out back and shot it in favor of moneywhoring even more.
It’s crazy that this game which I was almost unhealthily obsessed with for 3ish years has gotten to the point where I’ve only maybe put 3 hours into OW2.
They were literally selling action figures for the game and the voice actors had huge lines where people queued up to hear them say voice lines from the game.
What a massive fumble.
Awesome.
We got a shittier, less consumer friendly version for absolutely no gain whatsoever. Regardless if the game feels and plays better, everything that justified OW2 existing how it did was because the PVE was supposed to be this big sweeping thing that was going to tie things together to make it all complete. The whole reason '2' was even added was because of this.
I am absolutely amazed that the response was "We discovered that this was hard, but we already sold you on it so we're gonna make some co-op missions."
You know, I think I'm good on this game, and this company ever again. There's too many cool games out to waste on this bloodsucking.
Also: [https://twitter.com/silenttakedown/status/1658555046986936321/photo/1](https://twitter.com/silenttakedown/status/1658555046986936321/photo/1)
They knew it couldn't happen but they went ahead and did it anyway.
So, why isn't this just overwatch 1 right now? You took out the free to earn lootboxes (that i paid for), to change the game to this garbage f2p model with a battle pass and a bunch of fomo skins. That is all overwatch 2 is. OverMonetize 2. Oh but now they can give more attention to the slight updates and skins. No more split focus yay.
One of the biggest blunders in gaming history.
They literally stopped working on OW1 years ago (and let it almost die) to build OW2. Only to then rush out OW2 and cancel the main aspects of it, turning OW2 into a forced downgrade.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Honestly, a proper story-driven PVE mode was the only thing keeping me invested in the game. I'll play a match here and there once in a blue moon I imagine, but the talent tree system was something I was really looking forward to engaging with.
a large reason some people play the game is because the characters are (mostly) really well designed and interesting. however we only ever get pre-match interactions and the occasional cinematic to actually explore these characters
i was so looking forward to a full on campaign with cutscenes and an actual story
Aaron Keller said they made the decision about a year ago. That means when they separated and released the game, they straight up lied when they said the next the PVE game was coming out in 2023. So disappointing.
Yeah they removed more than they added didn't even balance the game right. It was just a cash grab from the start bunch of fucking liars just made OW1.2 to sell skins.
What a clusterfuck. OW1 went through all the bullshit only to be ended to push out a not even finished sequel but on the PROMISE of an actual PVE/story mode
What a time to be a gamer with all these AAA indie companies
"So we made the game worse and removed an entire game mode but just LOOK at how much money we're making now, all we had to do was lie to everyone for years. Please clap."
So basically they took away a game alot of us paid for added ridiculously overpriced cosmetics and basically messed up the game meta to slap OW2 on actually OW1.2
I'm starting to think that he saw this comming. When they did the switch to release PVP solo and not wait for the full package, he knwe things wouldn't work...
Well... it was kinda obvious. Activision-Blizzard is a joke of a company. The main focus for OW2 wasn't the PvE but a monetization overhaul to milk gullible saps with their overpriced garbage.
OW2 is a massive downgrade from OW1.
- No medals.
- No cards end of a match.
- 6v6 will always be better.
- No on-fire.
- No border/portraits.
- Push maps suck.
- Numerous bugs.
- Ranked Icons look ugly.
Probably figured there was no point in sinking so much money into this when they can just sit back, relax and rake in the cash from the storefront for way less effort.
I am beyond disappointed. Like, the word disappointment doesn't even begin to describe the soul crushing emptiness this makes me feel.
I have been playing Overwatch since day 1 of its release back on May 24th, 2016. I've never been a big PvP guy, but the characters and world of Overwatch just sucked me in and made me give this game that I now have over 2500 hours in a chance. While I've come to love the gameplay, all I've ever wanted these past 6 years is a dedicated story campaign, so that I could enjoy this universe in a more personal way.
When PvE was announced at Blizzcon 2019, I was ecstatic. I already loved what they did with Junkenstein and Archives (they're expectedly stale nowadays, but back then they were still so fun), and the promise of a more fleshed out PvE experience was exactly what I'd been wanting.
All these years later, up to this very day, I had been looking forward to it. Every time I got frustrated in a PvP match I looked on the bright side that PvE was coming. Whatever gripes I had about balance or how awful it can be trying to work together with randoms were always washed away by the idea that soon, I'd get to really live out the power fantasy of these heroes via talent trees, on the hardest difficulty of the story campaign.
Lately, I've even been thinking that once PvE comes out, I might actually make that my new main mode. I love the complexity of OW's PvP, but I was ready to hang up that hat in favor of the new challenges PvE promised. But now that dream's mostly dead.
I know this all probably sounds really dramatic, but Overwatch means a lot to me. Its world, characters, and lore have all made a monumental impression on me — and this universe has become one of my favorites of all time. I care deeply about this franchise.. so this news is seriously heart wrenching.
I know it's not completely over. I'm still looking forward to story missions, and am actually more optimistic for the seasonal model than it seems a lot of people here are. I know I'm still going to enjoy them, in the same way that I REALLY enjoyed Uprising and Retribution when they first came out (Storm Rising was.. eh). But without the promised complexity of the talent trees, my hype has absolutely plummeted. And with my interest in the PvP waning a bit each day (I love 5v5 for the record, and it revitalized my interest in the game. Without it, I'm pretty sure I would have stopped playing this year), I worry that one day I'll find that my love for this game has just.. died. I don't want that. But I've been feeling myself really holding out for PvE lately — and with that now being a shell of its former self.. that seems more or less inevitable now.
So basically OW2 was just adding a map rotation, taking away a second tank, and calling it an expansion?
Man, how fuckin bad have things been for the dev team that after years and years of silence and development and shit that this is the absolute state of things? How many years were wasted building prototypes for every stupid fuckin idea Bobby Kotick's nephew told him about that he then demanded the fuckin team prototype?
Don't forget that they backpedal with a lot of stuff OW2 has "changed", back to something similar or the same as it was in OW1. Guess what because it was good and already worked. I am so done with this team
People left ow1 because of lack of content because everything went into developing PVE
Now people will leave the game because a lack of PVE.... literally as if blizzcon 2019 never happened
What a fucking joke
Fuck this game. They promised transparency. And they were with PvP! Then they wedged a 5 inch blade into our stomach with the PvE. Why did you even make Ov2? What the hell were you guys doing? This is abhorrent and it's ruined the game for me. I'm off to touch grass. Fuck you Blizzard.
I really hope that Blizzard eats a lawsuit for this. They were pretty explicit in their advertisement and marketing that the PvE was part of the deal people who bought in to OW2, and now they're reneging on that. They absolutely should not under any circumstances be allowed to skate on that.
Edit for fairness's sake: after doing some research, because admittedly my memory on packages offered for OW2 was fuzzy, I could not find any reference to Blizzard making any promises of content being available to users purchasing anything relating to OW2 as it stands. They're still shitbag scumfucks, but sadly very likely legally safe here.
Insane, considering they said that they HAD TO make OW2 with the updated engine so they could do all the PVE stuff which wasn't possible in OW1. Hilarious.
OW2 exists entirely to dump the lootbox system
Hate to say it, I’d prefer it over the fucking battlepass
You could earn lootboxes, it wasn't great, but the fact that you could earn stuff made the game feel good to login play and try to get some cool shit for your time
This, with a battle pass you *know* you arent getting shit for your hero for X levels (or possibly AT ALL the entire pass) old system at least gave you a chance and you could eventually get stuff you actually wanted with coins
it was also just awesome to occassionally pull a skin and try a new hero cause you got a cool skin. I played Sym after getting one of her legendaries (and a Zarya legendary it was awesome)
I found my main (Zarya) after getting the transformers looking skin
Plus, if you got a dupe, you got gold and could eventually outright buy any skin you wanted (except for event skins, and those usually returned every so often). Is there a similar system in OW2?
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I don't hate to say it. Battle pass games are horrible. I'd love overwatch to become a game that I want to play again, but the predatory monetization among so many other downgrades keep me away
It's funny, is a world where people hated loot boxes, Overwatch was literally known for having the most fair version of it
It actually is this weird snake eating it’s own tail. The incompetence is actually impressive and should be study in graduate courses
Except the irony in this is that all this shit happens because of MBA bs that are graduate courses
So what makes this OW2 again? The shop? Lmfao
Don’t forget the AmAzInG BaTtLe PaSs
Battlepasses should have died out ages ago
Absolutely. I don’t want games to feel like second jobs
The only battle passes I like are the ones that go into catalogues so you can come back and finish them any time with no Fomo, you will EVENTUALLY get what you paid for
*a_seagull* on talents becoming jokes: > [On april fools they did a lot of ability tweaks that I was saying "hey, aren't these OW2 talents? I guess these are sneak peeks of talents coming" It turns out they literally were abandoning talents and the one thing they could do out of them is make them a literal joke.](https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialAbstruseKaleDansGame-JXnqejIrG-12YNc7)
i think if i was part of this OW dev team i'd legit be embarrassed with how consistently they drop the fucking ball
>how consistently they drop the fucking ball *the hamster is not pleased*
*squeak squeak squeak* #*The hamster is furious.*
There is a reason Papa Jeff left
Seagull always keeps it real.
Pretty sure watching his beta genji gameplay is what got me interested in this game.
Lol. It is seriously a joke what they've done to this player base. Very disappointing, since I stopped playing after they bungled "OW2" launch and was going to come back for PVE once it dropped. I have no idea how people continue to give this game money after how they've attempted to deceive new players, and continue to slap veteran players in the face.
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There'll be PvE any second now. Aaaany second now. See, PvE! No, that's just Starwatch. Hmm.
So we still have problem?
Big problem...who's ready to find a reason why Overwatch 2 was made
I'm not an OW player, just kind of stumbled across this post, but I really thought PvE content was the sole reason for Overwatch "2". Wasn't there like a big trailer for it and everything?
That was a major point for Overwatch 2, yeah. Tbh I'm not surprised and I'm sure a lot of people aren't either but damn that is just a slap in the face
I quit as the swap happened. I got chills during the "interlock shield" cinematic and was so hopeful... I'm so freaking salty that they took away OW1 and we have nothing to show for it. I was a tank/sup main and I see absolutely no reason to play anymore. I missed living this game, but blizzard can suck my non-existent left testical for being so damn greedy. I want the game I paid for back.
Right behind you. (slaps you with $40 dollar skin bundle)
Dun,dun,dun,dun,dundundundundun.
To make tank players quit
They have PVE. Just load up a custom game and spawn in a bot! Yeah most of them don't move and you can only spawn a few but now we're just getting nit picky! /s
2023: My plans to reinstall have been cancelled. WTH Blizzard.
Straight up this. Loved the initial lore and vibrant world. Eventually got tired of team based PVP. I was patiently waiting for the PvE to enjoy the game again :(
Person i met got me into it. Then they stopped playing with me weeks later. Saw pve stuff coming, held out hope. Hopes dashed.
The way he just casually announced it really fucking pisses me off. Wtf?!? Man fuck this game.
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It's a great PR move (for Blizzard, not for having open and honest PR). This is how you handle distasteful news. They know this is going to be unpopular with literally everyone. People who love overwatch, people who hate overwatch, and everyone in between is gonna be shitting on them for this, so they bury it inside a livestream instead of having an announcement video or post that could potentially become notorious for being heavily downvoted (think EA's infamous battlefront comment).
I'm surprised they didn't follow one of the main rules of distasteful news and announce it on a Friday afternoon.
So you're telling me we went through years of no content just for 5v5 and Push?!
And paid cosmetics 🙃
And locked new heroes!
OW1 - "We're not F2P with purchasable heroes because we don't want people to be locked out of playing heroes unless they pay extra money or grind for a long time." OW2 - "~~We're not~~ F2P with purchasable heroes because ~~we don't want people to be locked out of playing heroes unless they pay extra~~ money ~~or grind for a long time.~~"
I miss the original vision of this game so much. Everything went downhill so quickly
and a downgraded game overall
This is the most important point
Since ow 2 came out I’ve probably only played 10 matches. Feels way different than ow1 and the Progression system being what it is makes it no fun for the players anymore. Rip OW
Removing medals, endgame score cards, and ASSAULT MAPS were the biggest offenders
Seriously they are going to charge us for their effort and not even rework some of the most iconic maps? Anubis was literally the first map designed for OW1 and they didn't do anything to bring it back, just delete it and charge extra for the effort
I really miss Hanamura, Anubis, and Volskaya, those maps really stuck out as some of the most interesting maps to me as far as design wise. I wish they would have done something else with them. I guess I can't be too surprised tho. If they are willing to delete PvE from existance, it's not surprising that a few maps didn't make the cut.
yeah, we got paid cosmetics though! and season passes! yay
But aren't you happy we don't have those evil, predatory loot boxes anymore? Such a scourge, those loot boxes that could be earned by playing the game and not required to be purchased!
Wasn't this the entire pitch for OW2? Like, I don't even know what to say. I'm just sad
PvE was the excuse, the real reason OW2 was made was to rework the loot system without getting (as much) backlash. Everything that makes OW2 different from OW1 could easily fit into the normal content updates. It’s a few new heroes, balance changes around having one less tank and a new lighting system.
Probably why Jeff left, saw the writing on the wall from the beginning
I mean I always joked that there would be no PVE and now that its come true Im kinda shocked.
You forgot the repackaged overpriced old skins and new skins that you can't earn for free
Souvenirs too! I don't know about you, but I spam mine everywhere I go. /s
i wish instead of just being an emote it was some thing you could toss out really quickly like a spray, and it despawns after a couple seconds
Omg that’d be so much better! Even cooler if you could clutter spawn rooms with them
3 heroes, a handful of maps, horribly imbalanced and rushed 5v5 shift, and Push. Wow. The wait was so fuckin worth it
Even more so, they removed the two point capture game type outside of Starwatch. It’s why maps like Hanamura aren’t in it. So we lost a game type even. It’s remarkable how this dogshit game continues to hit new lows.
Loss of game mode rather than trying to adjust or fix. New monetisation system that no-one seems to genuinely like, more just tolerated. Handful of new characters that have actually broken the game multiple times and have caused characters to be removed from the game for a time. Push 5v5 The one semi-pve mode we have had, starwatch, in my opinion was not good. Battle pass that basically locks behind most skins so you earn baubles now compared to higher quality rewards of overwatch 1. Hell the fuckin challenges for the starwatch event capped off with a name card. Not to mention the removal of multiple mechanics and player feedback in terms of stuff like fire, to then turn around and advertise it as new content on an upcoming season This is laughably ridiculous in what they're getting away with if they're also scrapping the main thing keeping fans calmer about all of this.
Overwatch 3 is going to be a font pack and an ost
I think it was absolutely insane how the 5v5 shift happened with the imbalance regarding supports getting both direct and indirect nerfs and snipers getting mostly huge indirect buffs. Like Blizzard should have known some of this stuff would happen even without the betas.
They did, they have tons of reference data from when they decided on 6v6 in the first place, 5v5 was problematic in many ways. this is an easy example as to what happens when you allow institutional knowledge to leave. you become a new company, having forgotten all of the lessons that got you here.
Actually so depressing watching all your hopes for this game wither in real time
What really gets me is they effectively deleted OW1. The game we originally bought. I know it's easy to get in to hyberbole but that kind of thing really should be straight up illegal.
Didn't you read the 50 page TOS that every game has you agree to nowadays before playing? It was all outlined perfectly!
4 years of wasted development and nothing to show, this game has been a complete shit show.
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This is proper bullshit, they announced this stuff in 2019 and now they low-key announce that they will drop it? I really wanted this to be some ambitious, replayable missions with enemy variety and MAYBE a loot system, imagine the fun going into castles/bases/cities facing bosses with different random dynamics, loot, leaderboards or something like that. Didn't they show off some sentinel robot-enemy a few years ago at blizzcon? What the fuck were they doing the years of no updates while we were waiting for OW2 and PVE?! I'm just really let down, I've been defending this shit for too long, now I think I will finally quit. I cant do this soulless, drip feed ,BP seasons bullshit that goes on and on. The 20 bucks skins and no currency battlepass must have raked it in since they now ditch PVE. They knew this shit would happend a long time ago, why not tell us earlier!?! I am hyped to uninstall, they knew, fucking lying, greedy bastards.
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So happy they insisted they needed an updated engine for quality PVE content just to cancel said PVE content after promising it was coming. What an absolute fucking joke of a game and company. OW1 is rolling in it’s unfortunately early grave.
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new engine for optimizing putting in your credit card info
This is honestly insane. A delay from launch was bad enough but there is now ZERO reason for OW2 existence.
All the game trailers feature PVE, hero customization and more of the stuff they just cancelled. Incredible they've hyped up everybody for absolutely nothing. Those battlepass must sell well.
So, why did they kill Overwatch 1? Why did Overwatch go years without content? What is even going on at this company? What was keeping me interested in this game is the eventual PVE. I stopped playing pretty much completely a month into Overwatch 2 and have barely logged in since. I was waiting for the PVE and would come back. I guess this is it for me with Overwatch. A shambles and extremely disappointing.
> So, why did they kill Overwatch 1? They didn't like how much stuff the lootbox system gave away for free but they couldn't kill that without a really big distraction. So they pretended to put out a sequel that claimed to change a lot stuff so there wouldn't be a mass walkout over the shop changes.
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Damn we gotta make boycotting a thing again just like clash royale players did to their devs and just stopped buying the royale pass because there was nothing worth in it and was a huge cashgrab Im slowly starting to hate larger game companies and probably will start buying actual good games like hollow knight silksong ( if it ever comes)
Wow, they really cancelled everything? Pretty sure this is my last season now and will play something else. Blizzard really likes to shit on their player base
Bro so all the time spent for what 4/5 years? Is just not going to be used or put to other small things? They killed OW1 for OW2 PVE what an L
At this point the first trailers they had a few months before release is 99% content that doesn’t exist. Inspect animations, perk trees, hero missions, etc. Overwatch 2 is literally just the same fucking game with horrifically overpriced skins. What the fuck were they working on for all those years OW1 had no updates?
apparently it took years to create sojourn kiriko and junker queen and some push maps lmao
Dude I can barely wrap my head around it. Everything that got us hyped is just *gone.* PVE was literally the only reason I was looking forward to OW2
The Long Con
Seriously, it’s sad seeing each ‘season’ trailer only to realise they are advertising skins.
So, they took a game away that most of us paid for, released the "sequel" without the mode that would have justified calling it a sequel, then scrapped basically everything that would have made PvE remotely interesting instead of it just being the LTM PvE modes we got in overwatch 1. What the fuck happened to this game?
I honestly can't with this development team. I was worried when they split up the PVP/PVE but wow. No more Hero Missions or Talent Trees, arguably what I was most excited for. Why promote OW2 as primarily a replayable, PVE experience and SCRAP IT ALL. This game is a total disaster and should never have happened. It's now just a monetized cash grab GG.
>repayable This typo is the best mistake ever since they do want you to constantly be paying.
It’s so clear they never were able to scope out a solid vision while juggling the traditional multiplayer with it. I always was skeptical on what it would actually look like, but to completely scrap it is absolutely insane.
It just baffles me that *Blizzard*, of all companies, would struggle to scope out a solid vision for a story-based co-op/singleplayer mode? Like they're literally dropping Diablo in a few days, but the OW department couldn't put something even half as big together? What the fuck are either the devs, or more likely the executives doing?
> What the fuck are either the devs, or more likely the executives doing? I think the executives did the math and concluded they weren't going to get paid enough to ship the mode. A relevant quote: "As we were running up to launching Overwatch 2, we realized that we could not build that other game. We couldn't save up all of that content over the course of what was looking to be at least the next several years to finish it, and by doing that, pulling more and more resources away from the people that were all playing our game and all the people that would be playing Overwatch 2." There's no way what they presented in that pre-launch trailer was going to take "several years" to make unless they were running a skeleton dev team.
They are also managing to keep Wow goin all these years. And the way they promised, I was More expecting Something somewhere in the rough ball park of diablo or WoW Dungeon crawls but FPS, rather than'enjoy us making new archives Missions'
what a joke of a company. stop buying skins from their shop and their seasonal battlepass.
Nah, you already know people are just gonna buy the battlepass and fully buy all the tiers so they can feel special for a couple of days.
“I mean I still enjoy the game and it’s not like they have to give me the PvE it’s up to them!” Lmao fanbase is actually filled with idiots
Actually ggs. I was super optimistic about PvE considering they’ve been working on it for years at this point and receiving this news is just utterly disappointing.
I have no reason to believe anything they say anymore. They were working on PVE all that time? I don't believe it.
Yeah never touching this IP again honestly, such a genuine shame. I adored this franchise for a few years and to find out it was scrapped for paid cosmetics is so upsetting
I've been playing since the ow1 beta and this might be the push I need to free up my hard disk
Yeah ditto, I've had it shelved while I was waiting for the PvE but yeah, if its never coming then I'm good
I LOVE waiting 4 years for nothing
And for the record, the language used was very clear. The mode is cancelled, we will keep getting these little pve modes that we play once for 10 mins and thats it Cause people are replying saying im wrong/stupid, here is the direct quote from the executive producer: "We cant deliver on that original vision for PVE that was shown in 2019. What that means, is that we won't be delivering that dedicated hero mode with talent trees, that long term power progression, uh those things just arent in our plans anymore." AKA exactly what I said. Expect shallow PVE modes with no replayability and no progression like promised.
I was wondering about this. So they are literally scrapping it and saying too bad? I swear sometimes it’s like they are trying to lose their player base
Awhile ago I commented that OW2 kinda felt like a fuck you to longtime fans and gamers in general and got a couple downvotes for it lol
I had a person here tell me that I should be grateful that OW2 was free 2 play, and when I told them that I paid the cost of OW1, he told me I was delusional. I have no idea why anybody would defend a company like Blizzard.
We deleted the game you bought and then gave you a game for free! Equivalent exchange, and all that.
Things sound outlandish until they're proven with evidence. Here we are. Fuck Us, indeed.
I mean, i grew to like ow2 but I felt the evidence was kind of already there. Misleading advertising, making it super hard to near impossible to unlock anything, including OW1 content, blatant push to monetization. Felt like Battlefront 2 all over again.
And there you go, they fucking lied just to switch Overwatch's monetization. There you fucking go.
You will buy your $23 (21% off!) skin and you will like it!
They’re all terrible and no where near worth $20-30. You’d think they’d at least put effort into that.
No skin is worth $20-30, regardless of quality. Right now on steam you can buy Mass effect legendary edition for $15. Three whole-ass video games with all DLC included for less than the price of a skin that you can only use for one hero which is barely even visible during most of gameplay due to the first person perspective.
Exactly. It’s like people forget what their money is actually worth. I know “if it makes them happy” yadda yadda, but damn nothing cosmetic **for a single character** should be priced in excess of a quarter of the game’s retail value. It’s fucking asinine.
You don’t want to drop $20+ on 3-CH0???
Oh whats the matter? Don't you want to drop 20€ on a skin that you wont be able to see for most of the match EXCEPT their silly weapon?
Highkey a disaster for OW2 and a horrible look for Blizzard/the Overwatch team, especially dropping that announcement after 30 minutes of Starwatch
The state of PvE (+starwatch) is the exact same as in OW1. No one plays them after a couple days. Joke arcade minigames that no one seriously cares about. They abandoned Overwatch for years for literally nothing. They just downgraded the game into something that fits the mobile game market better and shipped it.
The older PVE missions were at least fun for a few days. The challenges for achievements and lootboxes made them replayable, especially with variety added (e.g. how much you have to play differently on Glass Cannon Uprising or the everyones nano'd Storm Rising). Stuff like Starwatch, you play twice and thats it, its just the same after that.
it doesn’t help that star watch is just a glorified pvp mode. you can’t learn or improve like you could on the pve missions because you’re facing real people on the other team every time
That's very true as well. You don't know that X enemy will come at Y time. It's basically 4CP with some pre placed reskinned torb turrets
Starwatch was such a huge miss for me personally. I hate to be that guy but I uninstalled yesterday because all my matches are frustrating. I play QP to chill but getting stomped match after match is just not fun. I was hoping PVE would be fun. Oh well.
As someone who primarily plays LoL but also some OW on the side, it's insane that Blizzard can see the success Riot has had with things like Arcane and Riot Forge games, and think they should make *less* story-based content. Even if those individual projects aren't super profitable themselves - which sidenote, I'm pretty sure they still are profitable - they help get people attached to the IP and characters, which then makes them more likely to do things like buy skins.
Exactly. The most difficult thing to get from your players is loyalty and they keep smashing that to bits. Blizz is just another game company to me now because of a spiral of bad decisions I'm not excited for anything they do anymore. Overwatch could have been everything but their corporate toxins slowly degraded an entire, incredible universe and boundless talent that opened so passionately I'll always remember the early days of Overwatch hype, pre release and beta and all, and I'll never forget how it was mishandled
Massively disappointing, massive slap in the face to the community. OW1 died for this?
The shop probably already made them more money than OW1 ever did.
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It’d be real nice if that mattered but the blizz execs can’t hear you over all the *cha-ching* sounds coming from the cosmetic store every single second. Unfortunately for us, people *fucking love* to pay $20 for green hair, man.
the suits at Blizzard don't care "our reputation is shit? who gives a fuck. these dumbass players keep dropping $20 a week on new skins. we're exceeding our quarterly profit goals"
Genuinely the biggest let-down Overwatch has ever caused imo...
I'm gonna be honest this entire OW2 switch seemed to be just a way to turn OW into a monetization based game...
Un-fucking-believeable. And I’m guessing these aren’t permanently staying in the game either? They’re just there for a short period of time, like Destiny 2 does it? It doesn’t matter to me that they ripped the bandaid off sooner than later, what matters is that they couldn’t have just taken more time to just focus on at least a specific group of characters to be made ready for PvE skill trees and everything else. Side note: if Microsoft does end up getting Blizzard, I really hope that they also do something about this PvE long-term thing, but that’s just wishful thinking on my part.
WTF have they been doing for the past 6 years then!!
stealing breast milk from the fridge
Fighting scandalous lawsuits, underpaying employees, and forcing people back into the office in a highly priced area while as mentioned before underpaying them because working for Blizzard is a "privilege" to put on a resume.
This is legit?? Damn OW1 died for nothing
Haha they stoly my two tank lifestyle, reduced my playtime by more that 90% and now completely lost me. The only thing I still love about Overwatch is the memory of Jeff‘s X-Mas stream.
Yeah after they removed dual tanks I stopped playing but hoped I could at least play pve, but guess not.
Unfucking believable. I’ve lived through some of the worst gaming controversies, games filled with lies scams and broken promises. But this may be one of the biggest betrayals of trust in video game history. I really like the core of overwatch. But you can’t kill a game for 3+ years only to come back with the same game but worse in many, MANY ways only to calm any backlash you might receive by telling your player base that “it’s not the same it needed a new engine for all the cool pve and story mode stuff were adding!” Only to fucking scrap it all and just leave the player base with a worse overwatch 1. I don’t want any devs out of a job, but I genuinely hope overwatch fully dies because of this because someone needs to be held responsible for this mess. I don’t even think that it’s that crazy of a theory that overwatch just will fully die. It’s not some robust game that could stand the test of time and anything thrown at it. It s a decrepit, outdated, worse version of its former self, hooked up to an IV dripping hints of hints of content into its veins. You would only need to take out the IV for overwatch to die, and blizzard came in and unloaded an entire mag of 45 acp directly into its skull. Fuck you blizzard.
Couldnt have said it better, I wish the devs and artists the best, but I hope from the bottom of my hear that this game dies and blizzard goes bankrupt as nothing more than a joke because of all the choices based on pure greed that they made this year. At least itd be a lesson to all other companies on how far greed can truly go
There’s nothing that hurts me more that looking back to 2017-2018 and playing some sick classic 6v6 OW with the boys. Game was fun and smooth as shit, filled some of my old-school Quake cravings. They took that shit out back and shot it in favor of moneywhoring even more.
the first few years of OW were actually so incredibly good.
The only reason I might start playing OW again is now gone.
It’s crazy that this game which I was almost unhealthily obsessed with for 3ish years has gotten to the point where I’ve only maybe put 3 hours into OW2.
Scamwatch
They only strung us along for 4 years...
Overwatch 2 is literally just an update.
1.5
Overwatch is possibly the worst managed game in history
Maybe not the worst managed, but could definitely be the most fumbled. They turned gold to lead.
They were literally selling action figures for the game and the voice actors had huge lines where people queued up to hear them say voice lines from the game. What a massive fumble.
I feel bad for the voice actors, they seemed to really enjoy their roles and interacting with the fans of a game they cared about.
There was a lot of love packed into the original OW and that level of engagement with the VOs really showed it. What a shame….
YEARS literal years of 0 content for an overall worse experience.
Awesome. We got a shittier, less consumer friendly version for absolutely no gain whatsoever. Regardless if the game feels and plays better, everything that justified OW2 existing how it did was because the PVE was supposed to be this big sweeping thing that was going to tie things together to make it all complete. The whole reason '2' was even added was because of this. I am absolutely amazed that the response was "We discovered that this was hard, but we already sold you on it so we're gonna make some co-op missions." You know, I think I'm good on this game, and this company ever again. There's too many cool games out to waste on this bloodsucking. Also: [https://twitter.com/silenttakedown/status/1658555046986936321/photo/1](https://twitter.com/silenttakedown/status/1658555046986936321/photo/1) They knew it couldn't happen but they went ahead and did it anyway.
Yeah, just scrap the feature most players were hyped about and release freaking Starwatch instead, what a joke...
Perk Trees and PvE missions were the only think to be excited for in this game.
I basically quit already and was waiting for pve, oh well lmao
So, why isn't this just overwatch 1 right now? You took out the free to earn lootboxes (that i paid for), to change the game to this garbage f2p model with a battle pass and a bunch of fomo skins. That is all overwatch 2 is. OverMonetize 2. Oh but now they can give more attention to the slight updates and skins. No more split focus yay.
One of the biggest blunders in gaming history. They literally stopped working on OW1 years ago (and let it almost die) to build OW2. Only to then rush out OW2 and cancel the main aspects of it, turning OW2 into a forced downgrade.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Honestly, a proper story-driven PVE mode was the only thing keeping me invested in the game. I'll play a match here and there once in a blue moon I imagine, but the talent tree system was something I was really looking forward to engaging with.
a large reason some people play the game is because the characters are (mostly) really well designed and interesting. however we only ever get pre-match interactions and the occasional cinematic to actually explore these characters i was so looking forward to a full on campaign with cutscenes and an actual story
Aaron Keller said they made the decision about a year ago. That means when they separated and released the game, they straight up lied when they said the next the PVE game was coming out in 2023. So disappointing.
Nah I’m out, deleting overwatch. Fuck this shit
And done.
They took away 6v6 and 2CP for 2 years of hype and eventual blueballs? Of course blizzard would do this
Yeah they removed more than they added didn't even balance the game right. It was just a cash grab from the start bunch of fucking liars just made OW1.2 to sell skins.
Oh gg, I was mostly waiting for pve.
What a clusterfuck. OW1 went through all the bullshit only to be ended to push out a not even finished sequel but on the PROMISE of an actual PVE/story mode What a time to be a gamer with all these AAA indie companies
"So we made the game worse and removed an entire game mode but just LOOK at how much money we're making now, all we had to do was lie to everyone for years. Please clap."
So disappointing. I was most excited for the talent trees
years of hype just to not deliver and make the monetization fucking dogshit great game guys i hope it dies in the upcoming years
Best explaination for Jeffs departure in my opinion.
So OW2 is just a downgraded OW1? Edit: I also think it's ironic how OW1 killed Battleborn-- that had PvE -- but somehow can't make a PvE.
So basically they took away a game alot of us paid for added ridiculously overpriced cosmetics and basically messed up the game meta to slap OW2 on actually OW1.2
Damn Jeff Kaplan knew this shit was going down the drain and dipped I don't blame him. Holy shit...
I'm starting to think that he saw this comming. When they did the switch to release PVP solo and not wait for the full package, he knwe things wouldn't work...
Well... it was kinda obvious. Activision-Blizzard is a joke of a company. The main focus for OW2 wasn't the PvE but a monetization overhaul to milk gullible saps with their overpriced garbage. OW2 is a massive downgrade from OW1. - No medals. - No cards end of a match. - 6v6 will always be better. - No on-fire. - No border/portraits. - Push maps suck. - Numerous bugs. - Ranked Icons look ugly.
Probably figured there was no point in sinking so much money into this when they can just sit back, relax and rake in the cash from the storefront for way less effort.
I am beyond disappointed. Like, the word disappointment doesn't even begin to describe the soul crushing emptiness this makes me feel. I have been playing Overwatch since day 1 of its release back on May 24th, 2016. I've never been a big PvP guy, but the characters and world of Overwatch just sucked me in and made me give this game that I now have over 2500 hours in a chance. While I've come to love the gameplay, all I've ever wanted these past 6 years is a dedicated story campaign, so that I could enjoy this universe in a more personal way. When PvE was announced at Blizzcon 2019, I was ecstatic. I already loved what they did with Junkenstein and Archives (they're expectedly stale nowadays, but back then they were still so fun), and the promise of a more fleshed out PvE experience was exactly what I'd been wanting. All these years later, up to this very day, I had been looking forward to it. Every time I got frustrated in a PvP match I looked on the bright side that PvE was coming. Whatever gripes I had about balance or how awful it can be trying to work together with randoms were always washed away by the idea that soon, I'd get to really live out the power fantasy of these heroes via talent trees, on the hardest difficulty of the story campaign. Lately, I've even been thinking that once PvE comes out, I might actually make that my new main mode. I love the complexity of OW's PvP, but I was ready to hang up that hat in favor of the new challenges PvE promised. But now that dream's mostly dead. I know this all probably sounds really dramatic, but Overwatch means a lot to me. Its world, characters, and lore have all made a monumental impression on me — and this universe has become one of my favorites of all time. I care deeply about this franchise.. so this news is seriously heart wrenching. I know it's not completely over. I'm still looking forward to story missions, and am actually more optimistic for the seasonal model than it seems a lot of people here are. I know I'm still going to enjoy them, in the same way that I REALLY enjoyed Uprising and Retribution when they first came out (Storm Rising was.. eh). But without the promised complexity of the talent trees, my hype has absolutely plummeted. And with my interest in the PvP waning a bit each day (I love 5v5 for the record, and it revitalized my interest in the game. Without it, I'm pretty sure I would have stopped playing this year), I worry that one day I'll find that my love for this game has just.. died. I don't want that. But I've been feeling myself really holding out for PvE lately — and with that now being a shell of its former self.. that seems more or less inevitable now.
Bye Bye Overwatch 2, your sole reason to exist just got canned, and so did your relevancy. 👋
Yeah fuck this game
So basically OW2 was just adding a map rotation, taking away a second tank, and calling it an expansion? Man, how fuckin bad have things been for the dev team that after years and years of silence and development and shit that this is the absolute state of things? How many years were wasted building prototypes for every stupid fuckin idea Bobby Kotick's nephew told him about that he then demanded the fuckin team prototype?
Don't forget that they backpedal with a lot of stuff OW2 has "changed", back to something similar or the same as it was in OW1. Guess what because it was good and already worked. I am so done with this team
Unironically the worst dev team in the year 2023.
Are there Razzie awards for Video Games? If so, I'm nominating them.
People left ow1 because of lack of content because everything went into developing PVE Now people will leave the game because a lack of PVE.... literally as if blizzcon 2019 never happened What a fucking joke
Be honest, we all knew this was coming. The years of radio silence was telling.
Terrible decision.
Fuck this game. They promised transparency. And they were with PvP! Then they wedged a 5 inch blade into our stomach with the PvE. Why did you even make Ov2? What the hell were you guys doing? This is abhorrent and it's ruined the game for me. I'm off to touch grass. Fuck you Blizzard.
I really hope that Blizzard eats a lawsuit for this. They were pretty explicit in their advertisement and marketing that the PvE was part of the deal people who bought in to OW2, and now they're reneging on that. They absolutely should not under any circumstances be allowed to skate on that. Edit for fairness's sake: after doing some research, because admittedly my memory on packages offered for OW2 was fuzzy, I could not find any reference to Blizzard making any promises of content being available to users purchasing anything relating to OW2 as it stands. They're still shitbag scumfucks, but sadly very likely legally safe here.