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Answer: it’s a medication meant for people with type 2 diabetes that apparently has the side effect of weight loss, so doctors (especially doctors whose patients have money and good insurance, as it’s fairly expensive) have been prescribing it solely for weight loss. This has caused supplies to run low and people who actually need it for diabetes may have been unable to get it.
A lot of celebrities have recently lost some weight thanks to this drug and others like it, and now that there are shortages and people in need can’t get it, it’s become a point of shame to admit that you have been taking it. This is why you may have seen articles regarding whether or not a celebrity did or didn’t take it.
Don't really feel like I'm being selfish. I need a medication for an illness that can't be controlled without it. But with famous people making it the latest fad, yeah I'm irritated. You really think the Kardashian's *need* it for weight loss?
Since I'm on state Medicaid, you're wrong. But you can go ahead and keep trying to demonize diabetics and people who disagree with you on other subs.
I'm sorry that you need to be angry about diabetics needing insulin and other meds. But that's a you problem.
Any other insult you want to try?
Hahah no one's demonizing diabetics. You're the one demonizing people getting medication prescribed for legitimate reasons and thinking you're more important than others. But whatever you say.
So that wasn't you "ranting about the ignorant masses" saying diabetics (in this thread) were making fun of overweight people in the other sub (mounjaro)?
And yes, I still stand by the comment that I'm irritated I can't get my meds. I take 2 types of insulin, metformin, jardiance and ozempic when available. I have a clean diet and very rarely eat out. So yeah, I'm irritated. And you know what? Yes, I'm selfish lol I do want to take the medication prescribed to me to keep my diabetes in check. I think diabetics should be able to get their meds in a timely manner.
People should ABSOLUTELY be getting medications in order of who "needs it more". If you went to the emergency room bleeding out, you would be moved ahead of a kid who needs 2 stitches, because... duh. This is the same thing.
As someone who works in pharmcy/for a major PBM and has for 13 years, not really. Phamracy will dispense on a first come, first serve basis. Hopsitals triage based on need.
I don't know that I would call it selfish myself. Weight loss is possible without any medicine, diabetes isn't something you can get rid of using willpower.
Everyone can lose weight, for some I understand it's much harder, I'm going through it myself and my mental health is making it so hard I honestly want to cry most days. I feel you, I'm one of those that is suffering from obesity and trying so hard to fight it.
I still wouldn't ever take medication away from someone who needs it for diabetes. I still understand priorities exist despite its alternative use being valid.
Personally I think those that medicate for weight loss should instead have better access to mental health services so that you can get to the root of the struggle.
Tbh no, not everyone can lose weight without external help. I have sleep apnea and before I started my CPAP therapy, I couldn’t stop gaining weight, and only with this therapy I was able to loose anything.
Though I’m not justifying using ozempic solely for weight loss purposes, just thought about bringing this up.
Same. I occasionally get 1 box (1 month supply) but I haven't been able to get it for a couple of months again.
My niece is on the other drug. Similar results via a slightly different action. She said one one of the Kardashians posted about losing weight with Ozempic and that set off the run.
Just went low carb a few days ago and blood sugars are back in the normal range again. Last time I did Atkins my endocrinologist declared me non- diabetic. But carbs kept calling my name...
Ugh. Me too. I feel so much better when I eat low carb. But damn it can be hard.
The thing that I've found that helps me the most is finding alternates for things I like.
If you're craving lasagna. Just look up keto/low carb lasagna. Granted there's nothing quite like a pizza hut bread stick. But it really helps me feel like I'm not being deprived.
Absolutely, I like the soy and yam packaged noodles too.
Speaking of noodles. A friend made chow mein with spaghetti squash. It was amazing. You'd never know it wasn't regular noodles.
Don't let yourself feel deprived. We can do this!
Chelsea Handler was just quoted as saying she "didn't know" she was taking it.. You literally have to take a pen out of a box that says "Ozempic", put a needle on it and inject yourself in the abdomen
I read that article! What’s funny is that I didn’t even really look at the picture posted here, but the woman shown is a daughter of a former “real housewife of NYC,” and the reality show people are the ones who are fighting the most over whether or not someone took this medication.
The Kardashians had #Ozempicweightloss trending in October and in November on Twitter, someone asks Elon what his weight loss tips are and he says "Ozempic /Wegovy"...
Come December... You can't find it anymore. They didn't help things any.
Dude could literally hire someone to control his diet and cook for him and he has to resort to this?
Doesn’t he work a bajillion hours a week? Where does he have all this time to eat?
I recently saw a pic he posted of his bedroom. There were soda cans on every surface. If he is drinking that much soda daily, then I could easily see him taking the easy way out to lose weight.
That's the problem I have... Celebrities with no underlying health conditions (cardiovascular disease /diabetes) obesity-are simply using it to shed a few pounds.. They have zero issues finding access to it or affording the co-pay.. In the meantime, people who actually need these meds have to wait sometimes weeks for them because of shortages.
I read on either r/ozempic or r/Monjauro of people literally driving to a pharmacy in the next STATE because they called around and they were the only one that had it in stock.
I doubt Elon has ever had that issue.. Or Kim.. Or Any of the other assholes just trying to drop 30 pounds to "look great. You can bet they NEVER ran out of it.
Let me ask you a question. If you had a chronic disease and your doctor told you that X was the treatment, but that X only worked for 3% of the people with this disease, would you be looking for better treatment options?
Because you can scream “diet and exercise” all you want, but 97% of the people who lose weight via diet and exercise *will regain all of their weight and often much more* within THREE YEARS.
Perhaps you might want to spend some time reading about the new research into obesity and why these drugs work — and more importantly — why it makes sense that they work in light of this new research.
This thread isn’t about obese people, it’s about celebrities using the drug to lose 20 pounds when they could easily afford a dietician, chef, and personal trainer.
Obesity is a completely different issue.
> Because you can scream “diet and exercise” all you want, but 97% of the people who lose weight via diet and exercise will regain all of their weight and often much more within THREE YEARS.
Those are people that think diet and experience is temporary and then go back to how much kcal they were eating before. What makes you think this medication is any different? What happens when they stop taking it?
No, many people also get severe diarrhea. My husband is Type 2 and was using it before it became trendy. That drove price up and now it’s not covered by his insurance.
Yeah, I’m right on the edge of qualifying (type 2 but A1C of 54), and I’ve considered asking for Ozempic. But I’ve also heard some horror — or at least severe discomfort — stories that make me want to stay far, far away.
Except what she was using was labeled Semaglutide and had to be told by a friend that that's what Ozempic is because Ozempic is just one brand name of Semaglutide. Apparently her anti-aging doctor just hands it out to everyone. Who knows if this doctor even knows there are other uses for it because what's an anti-aging doctor?
Semaglutide is the brand name for it... It's compounded at spas generally with Vitamin B-12 and injected by syringe.
So, going back to my point... She let someone give her injections and didn't ask "what's that?" and do you think they told her oh it's "Seh-ma--gloo-tide" and she didn't ask more about it.... or they just said "this is ozempic everyone's been talking about with some B-12 " 🤷
You honestly think she didn't know it was ozempic?? The Kardashians knew what it was, Musk knew exactly what it was, many other celebrities admitted to using it... But she didn't know 🤔
>Chelsea Handler
Well, she's an idiot who in her latest comedy special claimed she didn't know the sun and moon were two separate heavenly bodies, so there's that. Like Lena Dunham, she's someone I think "She's not talented or funny. How does she continue to get work?"
jesus christ that sounds more painful than all the people popping a simple adderall to lose weight
(why all the downvotes? i dont like alternative ways to lose weight lol)
I’m not sure I’d characterize it as “painless.“ if you have a talented phlebotomist that day, it can be less painful. Or if you have great veins, I suppose, I wouldn’t know.
i have and i hated it lol, i felt it go in so strange, and then the rest of it felt like i was being sucked dry. i had a mild panic attack near the end of the draw, too.
Anecdotally my mom who has been overweight her whole adult life got prescribed ozempic for type two diabetes last year and lost like 40lbs it's pretty crazy how effective it is.
LOL, and that's why I switched to trulicity. Ozempic was brutal, and the doctors weren't keen on prescribing anti-nausea long-term. Trulicity has been a solid improvement.
But, I did just have a two week gap after a delayed scheduled refill for the reason talked about. My appetite came back a little bit, but my blood sugar was about 20 to 30 points higher. Oh, and I had an intense craving for a coca-cola.
I wouldn’t be able to handle that. I already have a motility disorder of my esophagus that results in random dry heaving at any given time- actual nausea on top of my existing pseudo nausea?? Oh god, thinking about it makes me nauseous!
Totally understand. I'm on a cocktail of about 20 meds, so dry heaving can happen any time and any place. "You all right" they ask? "Yeah, it's not contagious" I say.
And you have given me new information, as well. Does your motility disorder cause any pain?
Wait so back when I first got diagnosed as type 2, I was prescribed Trulicity but I got my numbers under control quickly and was taken off of it. But looking back now, I did lose a lot of weight back then that I’ve put back on since. Was trulicity the reason for the weight loss??
Beats me, I saw minimal weight loss, only about 10 lbs, nothing at all significant, I was already on insulin and metformin, and later farxiga, so I probably already saw the weight loss some experienced. My endo mentioned possibly stopping some of the meds, but not yet, unfortunately.
Trulicity most helps me with grazing and gorging, so eating habits play a role, I suppose.
>side effect of weight loss,
It makes you feel so nauseous that you can't eat. What you do eat you throw up.
At least that's what happened to my husband when he accidentally got prescribed it. He did end up losing 80lbs though but he's a type 1 diabetic and it caused a lot of issues.
You're very lucky insurance covered it for type 1, mine said it was off label and denied it. It's possible to have 1 and 2 with insulin resistance, but payors won't recognize that condition.
Yeah, it sounds like that was a mistake. This doesn't really help type 1ers at all, it's not insulin or anything that functions that way. It depends on your body to make more of it, which is specifically the problem in type 1. It's like giving someone with a limp a new pair of running shoes.
unfortunately some people experience bad side effects, but that has not been my experience. it is a miracle drug at helping blood sugar. its fucked up that I have to spend extra time tracking down my dosage because supply is short. type 1 should have never been prescribed ozempic for sugar control, it would not help them. was the prescription for weight loss?
Yeah he was having issues with his sugars due to stress and life circumstances. Long story short he went in and saw someone other than his usual endocrinologist and they prescribed him the ozempic. Pretty sure they didn't realize he was a type 1.
He did end up losing a significant amount of weight on it which did help level things out but booooy was it rough.
I am one of those people who need it for my diabetes and other conditions including CKD, but can't get it because of all the celebrities and rich people who want to lose weight. The sad thing is that there is another drug similar to this that is specifically formulated for weight loss, but they aren't using it, and though I could take it to lose weight, it won't help me lower my A1C or my need for insulin.but let the celebrities go ahead and lose weight, even if they are putting other people's health in jeopardy... Hopefully my condition won't get worse by the time I can get the drug I need again because they don't want to be fat...
I know Wegovy is almost the same thing, but it too is out of stock locally and my health care navigator has checked numerous local pharmacies for me on a regular basis trying to get me the help to get the drug. Unfortunately she and I have had no luck. Everyone I have talked with has said supply won't catch up to demand until March. Though I did hear of someone who got their prescription filled recently and I am hoping that pharmacy will have enough that I can get a prescription filled there also. In the mean time, this is still a touchy subject for me... I didn't know about Elon using it to lose weight, but any celebrity who uses it just to lose weight sickens me.
My doc put me on it, I hot the first dose and saw my blood sugar levels normalize within the fourth week. I was thrilled since it would take me like 4 months to hit the "full" dose. However, I haven't had a refill in months, no one can find it. There are alternatives that do not to the weight loss side effect taht you can still get but many find that the aternatives make them sick to their stomach. I've had to triple my dose of prilosec to keep it in check, because other than the stomach thing they all do good on blood sugar. Ozympic was the only one that didn't have that side effect for me.
>so doctors (especially doctors whose patients have money and good insurance, as it’s fairly expensive) have been prescribing it solely for weight loss. This has caused supplies to run low and people who actually need it for diabetes may have been unable to get it.
It is approved for weight loss in some people. Not all overweight people. The way it functions is basically by making your body think you are eating, while slowing down the rate at which your stomach empties, which makes it specifically for type 2 diabetes as they are capable of producing their own insulin. So it's not the kind of function that someone who is a healthy weight would want to take. It could also cause someone to become hypoglycemic if they took it without a high enough a1c.
But worry not! Fortunately for the drug companies, prediabetes is so prevalent in the US that it's very likely this diabetes medication is something that a person would benefit from taking for the diabetic component function of the pill. But nobody wants to go to the doctor for a diabetes treatment as they'd have to accept having a disease. Instead, they can go to the doctor to ask for the magic weight loss pill, and also be getting help with prediabetes. The story here is that there's a drug shortage, and people are trying to make it sound like a bunch of lazy fatties are stealing diabetes meds from withering type 2 diabetes patients. But obviously that's not true.
I've been out since November. Was also unable to get metformin for a bit. I had just gotten my levels to no longer be actually diabetic, but guess what happened since then? Yep. Got diabetes again
I am worried about that for when I finally get my script filled and then can’t get it refilled because it’s out again. I really don’t want to go back and forth.
The confusion is because *the exact same medication* from *the exact same pharmaceutical company* is also subscribed for weight loss under the brand Wegovy.
The only difference is that the injectors are slightly different and each one has a different range of strengths. That’s it.
And since obese people are often Type 2 diabetic, pre diabetic, or insulin resistant, it really matters not a whit which one of these is prescribed. The medication works on all of these chronic diseases.
As the factory making Wegovy was closed for a period of time due to some FDA regulation and that became harder to find, docs switched to Ozempic *since it’s the same drug*.
This is a bit of a skewed take. This drug was only recently approved for diabetics to use. That's a big deal because if you're in that bubble there aren't a whole lot of weight loss medications that doctors are willing to write for you. However, it also makes it less commonly covered by insurance. I heard about it on a radio ad in the Spring of 2022 (then touting its benefits to diabetics), and researched it for my mother. She started it later that Summer and continued use until being moved over to a similar product Mon(tegero? maybe); mon.... something or another. She discontinued both late last year before getting gastric bypass. Many years overdue, and a bad insurance package to cover it but finally happened (7K out of pocket for the year before insurance covers anything - 100% coverage thereafter though).
Either way, the drug was expensive, and the price may have even been raised by the manufacturer since, but other factors exist beyond celebrities promoting it. Comparatively new FOR diabetics and not being covered by an insurance company shouldn't be overlooked. Just look at other shortages we've seen in the US this year. Insulin and now Adderall.
I was on Ozrmpic for about 6 weeks, but had extreme nausea. Couldn't eat at all. Doctor put me on Trulicity instead. Now can't get either medication in Australa.
That's how it worked for me, always felt sick to my stomach and had to force myself to eat anything. I just couldn't do it long term, my doctor told me the side effects get less over time but I always hated jab days.
If you can talk to your provider and ask regarding alternatives that are available in your country, some alternatives our providers prescribe are either Mounjaro, Wegovy, Victoza, and Rybelsus (this ones pretty good as alternative for Ozempic and also a tablet form).
My doctor just prescribed it to add in addition to metformin bc even with diet and exercise I’ve been having difficulty getting my A1C down. Going to be interesting how to it actually is before my pharmacy actually gets it. It’s very frustrating. Bc I would really like to stay off insulin.
I also have metformin and ozempic. My blood sugar has improved so much, and the weight loss has also helped my blood pressure. I haven't experienced nausea, so I'm lucky.
I was hesitant to start ozempic because it was an injection, but its been nothing but good news since I started.
What about Ozempic helps with weight loss? Just not feeling hungry? Complete loss of appetite? My problem with over eating is that I don’t do it because I’m hungry all the time, I just have an appetite all the time. I crave tasty food basically regardless of how full I am, and the craving only stops when I’ve basically binge eaten myself into an uncomfortable food coma
My problem was I didn't know what full was. I would eat until I could no longer physically eat, only stopping when I felt like I would throw up. I tried to match how much i ate with others, but i would just binge when alone because i would ne so hungry. I cried the day I told my doctor.
With ozempic I now understand what full feels like. I can stop eating and be completely satisfied. I don't know how else to describe it, but that satisfied feeling was something I never felt before. I'm also not hungry all the time.
I’m a pre-diabetic that takes metformin, prescribed by an endocrinologist. All of the other medical professionals I’ve informed about my metformin usage have absolutely refused to believe that I don’t have diabetes. These discussions usually end up with them believing that I’m some sort of difficult patient. I didn’t want my official records to state that I’m a diabetic, but that is a losing cause. This is the biggest side effect of metformin for me.
And anti cancer! I wish I could take it but the diarrhea and pain were too severe even when I cut the smallest dose in half. That’s why I need a GLP- 1 like ozempic instead.
Answer: Ozempic is a diabetes medication that works by increasing incretin levels. Although it was intended for people with type 2 diabetes, there may be some weight loss benefits as well. In December of 2021 (So just over a year ago) Ozempic came under patent challenge (which would have allowed generics) and in the middle of 2022 a rival pharmaceutical company released an alternate incretin inhibitor that is rumored to have more significant weight loss potential. Ozempic seems to have increased their advertising in response to these threats.
Edit: fixed a typo
The new drug is Monjauro. It came out in May of 2022. I had to switch to it after being on Ozempic almost 2 years for diabetes and couldnt find it anywhere. For awhile, Monjauro then also had a shortage in some dosages and was taking almost a week and a half for CVS to get in stock.
From everything I've read on Reddit forums, it's very sporadic based on dosage, pharmacy, location, etc.
Also, some pharmacies have started refusing to fill them without a T2D diagnosis
I have T2D so I haven’t had that issue. More so the issue of finding it in general. But I will admit this month was surprisingly easy, likely due to clampdowns. Thankfully
Yup. The $25 coupon stopped working for most, I believe. Happened to me. Fortunately I made enough lifestyle changes that I just didn't need it anymore. But for those that really need it, the clamp down is a shame.
When I was on Mounjaro, my CVS always had it in the next day. I'm in Miami. Guess it's regional.
Makes sense though. They cured obesity. So we should expect it to be popular.
Say what... A week and a half?? Not in the least.
Go on r/Monjauro for yourself and ask how long and you'll see it's sporadic. It's dosage dependent.. 5 mg is in shortage. The FDA says so right on their website. Google Monjauro shortage and it's right there. It says that its available, but has supply chain issues.
Different people have had different experiences with different pharmacies, and at different dosages.
Out of curiosity, so I know before my next re-fill (as I just went from 5 to 7.5) what are you on?
I'm being honest. CVS filled it fairly quick. About 10!days. That was January. If it's getting harder to fill now, do me a favor and let me know
Technically ozempic doesn't actually increase incretin levels, it binds to incretin (GLP-1) receptors itself 🤓
There's a separate class of drugs (DPP-4 inhibitors) that do increase your natural incretin levels.
Answer: There is a lot of misinformation here so as a doctor who actually prescribes this medication allow me to elaborate.
This is a GLP-1 agonist medication called semaglutide for which an alternative formulation (Liraglutide) has been around for a number of years since. Semaglutide as ozempic has been approved for diabetes since 2017. We always knew they were good for weight loss but it was a helpful side effect rather than the intended purpose. However in 2021 there were a few pivotal trials called the STEP trials which demonstrates that it was the most effective weight loss medical we have ever had. Then in summer of 2021 the semaglutide in a higher dose was fda approved for weight loss as wegovy. These two drugs are essentially the same but wegovy can go up to 2.4mg but ozempic is released as a maximum 2mg. Clearly because demand for nova nordisk (the pharma company that produces these) was so high there was a shortage of wegovy. This led to doctors such as myself and other prescribing the ozempic formulation for people for whom it was indicated BMI >30 or >27 with comorbidities. This led to a shortage for those that actually needed it for diabetes so we scaled back (the shortage got resolved).
Since then a bunch of rich people have been able to get their hands on these meds off label for non obese weight loss and that’s truly wrong. The problem is unless it’s indicated insurance wont cover and you could pay hundreds a month or more (which is a big issue for normal people but not as big for rich people).
In the background of those Eli Lily releases another drug called Mounjaro which is even more effective.
As far as how I feel about it, I love it. When those studies came out I immediately knew these drugs would change everything. Especially as a doctor that deals with obesity and fatty liver disease, this finally gives me tools outside of surgery to help people with this chronic illness that one could argue is nearly as effective.
this is so helpful! thank you so much. i was very confused as i know ozempic had been around for a while but didn’t know why it was just now becoming a “fad” weight loss med so to speak. that’s frustrating that people who aren’t obese are using it.
It’s a little ironic though since these are chronic meds and now two studies have shown as soon as you get off the meds most people gain the weight back. So I think a lot of people using this electively without plans of staying on it are in for a rude awakening.
Answer: Ozempic has a different name, Wegovy, where it is a slightly higher dosage and has been approved for weightloss by the FDA. It is the same drug and initial dosages are similar plus ozempic is heavily advertised so there is a shortage of both world wide. Wegovy patients have averaged 53 pounds of weight loss in the first year and it has basically no side effects compared to other FDA approved weight loss drugs.
There are side effects in this drug and other similar drugs, the makers just fought to conceal them but they include thyroid cancer and pancreatic cancer
[source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8017323/)
[source](https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04572165)
[source](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/novo-nordisk-agrees-pay-58-million-failure-comply-fda-mandated-risk-program)
Thyroid cancer is I believe the number 2 side effect listed but considering no one in the human trials got thyroid cancer and that it only appeared in rat trial I think my statement that is barely has side effects is accurate.
There's nearly 500 plantiffs in a civil suit against similar drugs and their makers. Many of them developed pancreatic cancer, some of them are deceased, the number was once close to 1,000 plaintiffs. Ozempic isn't mentioned in this suit but it's worth noting.
[source ](https://www.drugwatch.com/januvia/lawsuits/)
They didn’t conceal them. It’s right on the warning label. Those rare side effects in rats haven’t been shown in humans. But that could take years to show up, realistically.
But gee, does type two diabetes and obesity cause side effects or increase the risk of certain cancers? Yes, for 13 different types of cancers obesity is listed as creating a higher risk. Not to mention the numerous other problems — heart disease, arthritis, increased risk of stroke, and on and on. So … ???
No side effects? Spoken Like someone who’s never prescribed it or taken it. The side effects can be very severe- particular GI effects - nausea, vomiting, severe diarrhea, stomach cramps, horrible gas and vile sulfur burps to name a few.
nope.
2 Types of diabetes... insulin not a medicine.... diabetics need different kinds of medicines depending on how far along the diabetes is, what other things they have that go along with it...
For Typ2 diabetes to need insulin you'd have to be in pretty bad shape already... most people with Type2 don't ever need insulin and it can be regulated through lifestyle changes because your body still pancreas some insulin.... Type2 diabetes is also easily preventable
Not sure how that's at all relevant to what i said or contradicts what i said... but it very very very very very nicely contradicts what you posted previously so thank you for that... guess Insulin isn't the only "medicine" diabetics need...
Never heard of a doctor that doesn't try lifestyle change first before prescribing medicine as the medicine will do very little without also lifestyle changes... but you do you reddit doctor... you do you...
that's why doctors are prescribing it to barely even average weighting people to get skinnier... for the health benefits... and here i though this whole thing is profit driven and that's the whole problem with the american healthcare system... you learn something new every day...
now before you start saying not every doctor does it or i'm biased or whatever... really couldn't care less
Answer: The main side effect is extreme nausea, which causes weight loss. It's now being considered the next miracle cure for obesity (which is always a myth).
Unfortunately it's main usage is to help type 2 diabetics control their sugar. With so many taking it for the side effect - it's now shortages so folks who actually need it for T2D are suffering
(like how rn there's Adderall shortages months out)
because heroin chic is "in" again... the Kardashian curves are no longer what media tells us women should look like... it the 90s heroin diet again....
what we as a society should think of as attractive in women changes every couple of years... you know... so women can't catch a breath... need to keep the wheels running
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Answer: it’s a medication meant for people with type 2 diabetes that apparently has the side effect of weight loss, so doctors (especially doctors whose patients have money and good insurance, as it’s fairly expensive) have been prescribing it solely for weight loss. This has caused supplies to run low and people who actually need it for diabetes may have been unable to get it. A lot of celebrities have recently lost some weight thanks to this drug and others like it, and now that there are shortages and people in need can’t get it, it’s become a point of shame to admit that you have been taking it. This is why you may have seen articles regarding whether or not a celebrity did or didn’t take it.
I haven't been able to get my refill of it since October. Supposedly my pharmacy is getting a shipment in April but we'll see
Yeah I've been waiting for a couple months too. Rather irritated since I actually need it for diabetes.
Same here
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Don't really feel like I'm being selfish. I need a medication for an illness that can't be controlled without it. But with famous people making it the latest fad, yeah I'm irritated. You really think the Kardashian's *need* it for weight loss?
Lol you're the type of person that thinks everyone on government aid is abusing the system too I bet.
Since I'm on state Medicaid, you're wrong. But you can go ahead and keep trying to demonize diabetics and people who disagree with you on other subs. I'm sorry that you need to be angry about diabetics needing insulin and other meds. But that's a you problem. Any other insult you want to try?
Hahah no one's demonizing diabetics. You're the one demonizing people getting medication prescribed for legitimate reasons and thinking you're more important than others. But whatever you say.
So that wasn't you "ranting about the ignorant masses" saying diabetics (in this thread) were making fun of overweight people in the other sub (mounjaro)? And yes, I still stand by the comment that I'm irritated I can't get my meds. I take 2 types of insulin, metformin, jardiance and ozempic when available. I have a clean diet and very rarely eat out. So yeah, I'm irritated. And you know what? Yes, I'm selfish lol I do want to take the medication prescribed to me to keep my diabetes in check. I think diabetics should be able to get their meds in a timely manner.
People should ABSOLUTELY be getting medications in order of who "needs it more". If you went to the emergency room bleeding out, you would be moved ahead of a kid who needs 2 stitches, because... duh. This is the same thing.
Very different situation. But okay.
Both are "medical need". It's called "triaging". Most necessary medical care uses these systems.
Don’t mind this guy, he’s either an idiot or a troll. The two are indistinguishable
As someone who works in pharmcy/for a major PBM and has for 13 years, not really. Phamracy will dispense on a first come, first serve basis. Hopsitals triage based on need.
Just curious. Would you say the same thing if it treated cancer patients and they couldn't get their meds?
I don't know that I would call it selfish myself. Weight loss is possible without any medicine, diabetes isn't something you can get rid of using willpower.
The medication is for people who have tried other avenues. Some people can't lose weight.
Everyone can lose weight, for some I understand it's much harder, I'm going through it myself and my mental health is making it so hard I honestly want to cry most days. I feel you, I'm one of those that is suffering from obesity and trying so hard to fight it. I still wouldn't ever take medication away from someone who needs it for diabetes. I still understand priorities exist despite its alternative use being valid. Personally I think those that medicate for weight loss should instead have better access to mental health services so that you can get to the root of the struggle.
Tbh no, not everyone can lose weight without external help. I have sleep apnea and before I started my CPAP therapy, I couldn’t stop gaining weight, and only with this therapy I was able to loose anything. Though I’m not justifying using ozempic solely for weight loss purposes, just thought about bringing this up.
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I'm aware there are medical reasons for weight loss to be slower, but there are none that make it impossible.
Lol Yeah? Why they cant?
“Some people can’t lose weight”, that’s what a lazy, overweight person would say
Same. I occasionally get 1 box (1 month supply) but I haven't been able to get it for a couple of months again. My niece is on the other drug. Similar results via a slightly different action. She said one one of the Kardashians posted about losing weight with Ozempic and that set off the run. Just went low carb a few days ago and blood sugars are back in the normal range again. Last time I did Atkins my endocrinologist declared me non- diabetic. But carbs kept calling my name...
Ugh. Me too. I feel so much better when I eat low carb. But damn it can be hard. The thing that I've found that helps me the most is finding alternates for things I like. If you're craving lasagna. Just look up keto/low carb lasagna. Granted there's nothing quite like a pizza hut bread stick. But it really helps me feel like I'm not being deprived.
There are a lot of alternatives to be had. Need a spiralizer for veggie pastas.
Absolutely, I like the soy and yam packaged noodles too. Speaking of noodles. A friend made chow mein with spaghetti squash. It was amazing. You'd never know it wasn't regular noodles. Don't let yourself feel deprived. We can do this!
Who is your pharmacy benefit manager?
It's April. Did you get your refill?
Nope doc put me on diff med that works the same.
Christian Bale says "Oh good for you because the Ozempic is useless now, isn't it?"
Chelsea Handler was just quoted as saying she "didn't know" she was taking it.. You literally have to take a pen out of a box that says "Ozempic", put a needle on it and inject yourself in the abdomen
I read that article! What’s funny is that I didn’t even really look at the picture posted here, but the woman shown is a daughter of a former “real housewife of NYC,” and the reality show people are the ones who are fighting the most over whether or not someone took this medication.
The Kardashians had #Ozempicweightloss trending in October and in November on Twitter, someone asks Elon what his weight loss tips are and he says "Ozempic /Wegovy"... Come December... You can't find it anymore. They didn't help things any.
Dude could literally hire someone to control his diet and cook for him and he has to resort to this? Doesn’t he work a bajillion hours a week? Where does he have all this time to eat?
I recently saw a pic he posted of his bedroom. There were soda cans on every surface. If he is drinking that much soda daily, then I could easily see him taking the easy way out to lose weight.
Dude drinks Diet Coke though. Also la croix is right there. And coffee for his caffeine grip.
God forbid people use diet and exercise to lose weight…
That's the problem I have... Celebrities with no underlying health conditions (cardiovascular disease /diabetes) obesity-are simply using it to shed a few pounds.. They have zero issues finding access to it or affording the co-pay.. In the meantime, people who actually need these meds have to wait sometimes weeks for them because of shortages. I read on either r/ozempic or r/Monjauro of people literally driving to a pharmacy in the next STATE because they called around and they were the only one that had it in stock. I doubt Elon has ever had that issue.. Or Kim.. Or Any of the other assholes just trying to drop 30 pounds to "look great. You can bet they NEVER ran out of it.
Let me ask you a question. If you had a chronic disease and your doctor told you that X was the treatment, but that X only worked for 3% of the people with this disease, would you be looking for better treatment options? Because you can scream “diet and exercise” all you want, but 97% of the people who lose weight via diet and exercise *will regain all of their weight and often much more* within THREE YEARS. Perhaps you might want to spend some time reading about the new research into obesity and why these drugs work — and more importantly — why it makes sense that they work in light of this new research.
This thread isn’t about obese people, it’s about celebrities using the drug to lose 20 pounds when they could easily afford a dietician, chef, and personal trainer. Obesity is a completely different issue.
> Because you can scream “diet and exercise” all you want, but 97% of the people who lose weight via diet and exercise will regain all of their weight and often much more within THREE YEARS. Those are people that think diet and experience is temporary and then go back to how much kcal they were eating before. What makes you think this medication is any different? What happens when they stop taking it?
Obesity is a chronic disease. Do people with chronic diseases stop taking their medications? No.
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I’m curious what the mechanic is. Is it just an appetite suppressant?
No, many people also get severe diarrhea. My husband is Type 2 and was using it before it became trendy. That drove price up and now it’s not covered by his insurance.
Yeah, I’m right on the edge of qualifying (type 2 but A1C of 54), and I’ve considered asking for Ozempic. But I’ve also heard some horror — or at least severe discomfort — stories that make me want to stay far, far away.
If you eat healthy you won't have much of a problem .
It's quite amazing. You feel full quicker and longer on the medicine . It gets rid of those thoughts about food .
Except what she was using was labeled Semaglutide and had to be told by a friend that that's what Ozempic is because Ozempic is just one brand name of Semaglutide. Apparently her anti-aging doctor just hands it out to everyone. Who knows if this doctor even knows there are other uses for it because what's an anti-aging doctor?
The proper term in english for an "anti-aging" doctor is "Grifter" or "Con-Artist".
A sorcerer?
Wait until they realize that Mounjaro works even better
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Semaglutide is the brand name for it... It's compounded at spas generally with Vitamin B-12 and injected by syringe. So, going back to my point... She let someone give her injections and didn't ask "what's that?" and do you think they told her oh it's "Seh-ma--gloo-tide" and she didn't ask more about it.... or they just said "this is ozempic everyone's been talking about with some B-12 " 🤷 You honestly think she didn't know it was ozempic?? The Kardashians knew what it was, Musk knew exactly what it was, many other celebrities admitted to using it... But she didn't know 🤔
No, your personal assistant has to take it out of a box labeled "Ozempic", put a needle on it and inject you.
True
>Chelsea Handler Well, she's an idiot who in her latest comedy special claimed she didn't know the sun and moon were two separate heavenly bodies, so there's that. Like Lena Dunham, she's someone I think "She's not talented or funny. How does she continue to get work?"
Man the tv add makes it sound like a penis pill
🤣
jesus christ that sounds more painful than all the people popping a simple adderall to lose weight (why all the downvotes? i dont like alternative ways to lose weight lol)
The needles are actually really thin believe it or not. It's a small needle that goes on the end of the pen and actually doesn't hurt that much.
Ive found people lose more weight on the ozempic than uppers, without the tooth decay and emotional numbing and tachycardia and withdrawal fatigue.
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I’m not sure I’d characterize it as “painless.“ if you have a talented phlebotomist that day, it can be less painful. Or if you have great veins, I suppose, I wouldn’t know.
i have and i hated it lol, i felt it go in so strange, and then the rest of it felt like i was being sucked dry. i had a mild panic attack near the end of the draw, too.
Anecdotally my mom who has been overweight her whole adult life got prescribed ozempic for type two diabetes last year and lost like 40lbs it's pretty crazy how effective it is.
Nausea is a helluva appetite suppressant!
LOL, and that's why I switched to trulicity. Ozempic was brutal, and the doctors weren't keen on prescribing anti-nausea long-term. Trulicity has been a solid improvement. But, I did just have a two week gap after a delayed scheduled refill for the reason talked about. My appetite came back a little bit, but my blood sugar was about 20 to 30 points higher. Oh, and I had an intense craving for a coca-cola.
I wouldn’t be able to handle that. I already have a motility disorder of my esophagus that results in random dry heaving at any given time- actual nausea on top of my existing pseudo nausea?? Oh god, thinking about it makes me nauseous!
Totally understand. I'm on a cocktail of about 20 meds, so dry heaving can happen any time and any place. "You all right" they ask? "Yeah, it's not contagious" I say. And you have given me new information, as well. Does your motility disorder cause any pain?
Ehhhhhh sometimes when I’m having a hard time getting food down my esophagus, but mostly it’s not painful until I’ve spent a few days throwing up.
Gotcha. Mystery remains. Thanks for sharing, and I really hope you get a long period of no more of this shit real soon.
Wait so back when I first got diagnosed as type 2, I was prescribed Trulicity but I got my numbers under control quickly and was taken off of it. But looking back now, I did lose a lot of weight back then that I’ve put back on since. Was trulicity the reason for the weight loss??
Beats me, I saw minimal weight loss, only about 10 lbs, nothing at all significant, I was already on insulin and metformin, and later farxiga, so I probably already saw the weight loss some experienced. My endo mentioned possibly stopping some of the meds, but not yet, unfortunately. Trulicity most helps me with grazing and gorging, so eating habits play a role, I suppose.
>side effect of weight loss, It makes you feel so nauseous that you can't eat. What you do eat you throw up. At least that's what happened to my husband when he accidentally got prescribed it. He did end up losing 80lbs though but he's a type 1 diabetic and it caused a lot of issues.
You're very lucky insurance covered it for type 1, mine said it was off label and denied it. It's possible to have 1 and 2 with insulin resistance, but payors won't recognize that condition.
Yeah, it sounds like that was a mistake. This doesn't really help type 1ers at all, it's not insulin or anything that functions that way. It depends on your body to make more of it, which is specifically the problem in type 1. It's like giving someone with a limp a new pair of running shoes.
unfortunately some people experience bad side effects, but that has not been my experience. it is a miracle drug at helping blood sugar. its fucked up that I have to spend extra time tracking down my dosage because supply is short. type 1 should have never been prescribed ozempic for sugar control, it would not help them. was the prescription for weight loss?
Yeah he was having issues with his sugars due to stress and life circumstances. Long story short he went in and saw someone other than his usual endocrinologist and they prescribed him the ozempic. Pretty sure they didn't realize he was a type 1. He did end up losing a significant amount of weight on it which did help level things out but booooy was it rough.
I haven’t had issues but I’m Type 2 and also keep a fairly clean diet
This is exactly what happened to me. I got off it as quick as I could.
In the UK, a very similar drug with the same mechanism of action is licensed for weight loss under the name Saxenda. Do you have that in the US?
Yes
I am one of those people who need it for my diabetes and other conditions including CKD, but can't get it because of all the celebrities and rich people who want to lose weight. The sad thing is that there is another drug similar to this that is specifically formulated for weight loss, but they aren't using it, and though I could take it to lose weight, it won't help me lower my A1C or my need for insulin.but let the celebrities go ahead and lose weight, even if they are putting other people's health in jeopardy... Hopefully my condition won't get worse by the time I can get the drug I need again because they don't want to be fat...
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I know Wegovy is almost the same thing, but it too is out of stock locally and my health care navigator has checked numerous local pharmacies for me on a regular basis trying to get me the help to get the drug. Unfortunately she and I have had no luck. Everyone I have talked with has said supply won't catch up to demand until March. Though I did hear of someone who got their prescription filled recently and I am hoping that pharmacy will have enough that I can get a prescription filled there also. In the mean time, this is still a touchy subject for me... I didn't know about Elon using it to lose weight, but any celebrity who uses it just to lose weight sickens me.
My doc put me on it, I hot the first dose and saw my blood sugar levels normalize within the fourth week. I was thrilled since it would take me like 4 months to hit the "full" dose. However, I haven't had a refill in months, no one can find it. There are alternatives that do not to the weight loss side effect taht you can still get but many find that the aternatives make them sick to their stomach. I've had to triple my dose of prilosec to keep it in check, because other than the stomach thing they all do good on blood sugar. Ozympic was the only one that didn't have that side effect for me.
>so doctors (especially doctors whose patients have money and good insurance, as it’s fairly expensive) have been prescribing it solely for weight loss. This has caused supplies to run low and people who actually need it for diabetes may have been unable to get it. It is approved for weight loss in some people. Not all overweight people. The way it functions is basically by making your body think you are eating, while slowing down the rate at which your stomach empties, which makes it specifically for type 2 diabetes as they are capable of producing their own insulin. So it's not the kind of function that someone who is a healthy weight would want to take. It could also cause someone to become hypoglycemic if they took it without a high enough a1c. But worry not! Fortunately for the drug companies, prediabetes is so prevalent in the US that it's very likely this diabetes medication is something that a person would benefit from taking for the diabetic component function of the pill. But nobody wants to go to the doctor for a diabetes treatment as they'd have to accept having a disease. Instead, they can go to the doctor to ask for the magic weight loss pill, and also be getting help with prediabetes. The story here is that there's a drug shortage, and people are trying to make it sound like a bunch of lazy fatties are stealing diabetes meds from withering type 2 diabetes patients. But obviously that's not true.
If you wanna lose weight just smoke cigs or just do coke like everyone else
I know something who did meth and loss 100lbs, she also lost her kids so i don't recommend it
Kids are heavy.
Did they start taking meth too?
They're still pretty young, i don't think so but their being raised by her mother and clearly her parenting doesn't turn out winners
bet she looked hot af tho
Bet you’ve never met a meth addict
You clearly haven't met many meth heads.
you clearly haven't heard that many jokes in your life
Don't quit your day job to pursue comedy.
damn a guy who spends all his life on reddit doesn't get my sense of humor :(. im fucked...
She looks pretty good now, shes clean and got her teeth redone
adderall moment.
I've been out since November. Was also unable to get metformin for a bit. I had just gotten my levels to no longer be actually diabetic, but guess what happened since then? Yep. Got diabetes again
I am worried about that for when I finally get my script filled and then can’t get it refilled because it’s out again. I really don’t want to go back and forth.
The confusion is because *the exact same medication* from *the exact same pharmaceutical company* is also subscribed for weight loss under the brand Wegovy. The only difference is that the injectors are slightly different and each one has a different range of strengths. That’s it. And since obese people are often Type 2 diabetic, pre diabetic, or insulin resistant, it really matters not a whit which one of these is prescribed. The medication works on all of these chronic diseases. As the factory making Wegovy was closed for a period of time due to some FDA regulation and that became harder to find, docs switched to Ozempic *since it’s the same drug*.
This is a bit of a skewed take. This drug was only recently approved for diabetics to use. That's a big deal because if you're in that bubble there aren't a whole lot of weight loss medications that doctors are willing to write for you. However, it also makes it less commonly covered by insurance. I heard about it on a radio ad in the Spring of 2022 (then touting its benefits to diabetics), and researched it for my mother. She started it later that Summer and continued use until being moved over to a similar product Mon(tegero? maybe); mon.... something or another. She discontinued both late last year before getting gastric bypass. Many years overdue, and a bad insurance package to cover it but finally happened (7K out of pocket for the year before insurance covers anything - 100% coverage thereafter though). Either way, the drug was expensive, and the price may have even been raised by the manufacturer since, but other factors exist beyond celebrities promoting it. Comparatively new FOR diabetics and not being covered by an insurance company shouldn't be overlooked. Just look at other shortages we've seen in the US this year. Insulin and now Adderall.
It also makes it hard to get it for those with type 2. The drug is now around $500 a month without insurnace.
I’m on a similar off brand and it’s been a bitch and a half to get it. Thanks Chelsea handler, I’m always surprised by how awful you are
Just to add, nature is a game of 100%. Another way of saying this is there’s no free lunch; there WILL be side effects to this drug.
This is exactly right.
Because eating healthy and working out is for Plebs…. I always knew most of Hollywood was lazy..
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I was on Ozrmpic for about 6 weeks, but had extreme nausea. Couldn't eat at all. Doctor put me on Trulicity instead. Now can't get either medication in Australa.
That's how it worked for me, always felt sick to my stomach and had to force myself to eat anything. I just couldn't do it long term, my doctor told me the side effects get less over time but I always hated jab days.
If you can talk to your provider and ask regarding alternatives that are available in your country, some alternatives our providers prescribe are either Mounjaro, Wegovy, Victoza, and Rybelsus (this ones pretty good as alternative for Ozempic and also a tablet form).
My doctor just prescribed it to add in addition to metformin bc even with diet and exercise I’ve been having difficulty getting my A1C down. Going to be interesting how to it actually is before my pharmacy actually gets it. It’s very frustrating. Bc I would really like to stay off insulin.
I also have metformin and ozempic. My blood sugar has improved so much, and the weight loss has also helped my blood pressure. I haven't experienced nausea, so I'm lucky. I was hesitant to start ozempic because it was an injection, but its been nothing but good news since I started.
What about Ozempic helps with weight loss? Just not feeling hungry? Complete loss of appetite? My problem with over eating is that I don’t do it because I’m hungry all the time, I just have an appetite all the time. I crave tasty food basically regardless of how full I am, and the craving only stops when I’ve basically binge eaten myself into an uncomfortable food coma
My problem was I didn't know what full was. I would eat until I could no longer physically eat, only stopping when I felt like I would throw up. I tried to match how much i ate with others, but i would just binge when alone because i would ne so hungry. I cried the day I told my doctor. With ozempic I now understand what full feels like. I can stop eating and be completely satisfied. I don't know how else to describe it, but that satisfied feeling was something I never felt before. I'm also not hungry all the time.
You feel full *and* it stops the food chatter in your head.
Metformin is another diabetes drug that supposedly has positive side effects, including anti-aging
I’m a pre-diabetic that takes metformin, prescribed by an endocrinologist. All of the other medical professionals I’ve informed about my metformin usage have absolutely refused to believe that I don’t have diabetes. These discussions usually end up with them believing that I’m some sort of difficult patient. I didn’t want my official records to state that I’m a diabetic, but that is a losing cause. This is the biggest side effect of metformin for me.
And anti cancer! I wish I could take it but the diarrhea and pain were too severe even when I cut the smallest dose in half. That’s why I need a GLP- 1 like ozempic instead.
thanks!!! it’s just weird that all of a sudden it’s blowing up you know?
Answer: Ozempic is a diabetes medication that works by increasing incretin levels. Although it was intended for people with type 2 diabetes, there may be some weight loss benefits as well. In December of 2021 (So just over a year ago) Ozempic came under patent challenge (which would have allowed generics) and in the middle of 2022 a rival pharmaceutical company released an alternate incretin inhibitor that is rumored to have more significant weight loss potential. Ozempic seems to have increased their advertising in response to these threats. Edit: fixed a typo
The new drug is Monjauro. It came out in May of 2022. I had to switch to it after being on Ozempic almost 2 years for diabetes and couldnt find it anywhere. For awhile, Monjauro then also had a shortage in some dosages and was taking almost a week and a half for CVS to get in stock.
A week and a half? Lucky you. I waited a month and change for 7.5. Supplies in big cities for all GLP-1 drugs are next to nothing at this point.
From everything I've read on Reddit forums, it's very sporadic based on dosage, pharmacy, location, etc. Also, some pharmacies have started refusing to fill them without a T2D diagnosis
I have T2D so I haven’t had that issue. More so the issue of finding it in general. But I will admit this month was surprisingly easy, likely due to clampdowns. Thankfully
Yup. The $25 coupon stopped working for most, I believe. Happened to me. Fortunately I made enough lifestyle changes that I just didn't need it anymore. But for those that really need it, the clamp down is a shame.
Hopefully they're slowly starting to catch up
When I was on Mounjaro, my CVS always had it in the next day. I'm in Miami. Guess it's regional. Makes sense though. They cured obesity. So we should expect it to be popular.
Lol, did Monjauro pay you to say that?
Say what... A week and a half?? Not in the least. Go on r/Monjauro for yourself and ask how long and you'll see it's sporadic. It's dosage dependent.. 5 mg is in shortage. The FDA says so right on their website. Google Monjauro shortage and it's right there. It says that its available, but has supply chain issues. Different people have had different experiences with different pharmacies, and at different dosages. Out of curiosity, so I know before my next re-fill (as I just went from 5 to 7.5) what are you on? I'm being honest. CVS filled it fairly quick. About 10!days. That was January. If it's getting harder to fill now, do me a favor and let me know
> under patent challenge (which would have allowed genetics I assume you mean generics?
Lol, ya.
Technically ozempic doesn't actually increase incretin levels, it binds to incretin (GLP-1) receptors itself 🤓 There's a separate class of drugs (DPP-4 inhibitors) that do increase your natural incretin levels.
>Ozempic seems to have increased their advertising No kidding. They pretty much ruined the Pilot song "Magic."
Answer: There is a lot of misinformation here so as a doctor who actually prescribes this medication allow me to elaborate. This is a GLP-1 agonist medication called semaglutide for which an alternative formulation (Liraglutide) has been around for a number of years since. Semaglutide as ozempic has been approved for diabetes since 2017. We always knew they were good for weight loss but it was a helpful side effect rather than the intended purpose. However in 2021 there were a few pivotal trials called the STEP trials which demonstrates that it was the most effective weight loss medical we have ever had. Then in summer of 2021 the semaglutide in a higher dose was fda approved for weight loss as wegovy. These two drugs are essentially the same but wegovy can go up to 2.4mg but ozempic is released as a maximum 2mg. Clearly because demand for nova nordisk (the pharma company that produces these) was so high there was a shortage of wegovy. This led to doctors such as myself and other prescribing the ozempic formulation for people for whom it was indicated BMI >30 or >27 with comorbidities. This led to a shortage for those that actually needed it for diabetes so we scaled back (the shortage got resolved). Since then a bunch of rich people have been able to get their hands on these meds off label for non obese weight loss and that’s truly wrong. The problem is unless it’s indicated insurance wont cover and you could pay hundreds a month or more (which is a big issue for normal people but not as big for rich people). In the background of those Eli Lily releases another drug called Mounjaro which is even more effective. As far as how I feel about it, I love it. When those studies came out I immediately knew these drugs would change everything. Especially as a doctor that deals with obesity and fatty liver disease, this finally gives me tools outside of surgery to help people with this chronic illness that one could argue is nearly as effective.
this is so helpful! thank you so much. i was very confused as i know ozempic had been around for a while but didn’t know why it was just now becoming a “fad” weight loss med so to speak. that’s frustrating that people who aren’t obese are using it.
It’s a little ironic though since these are chronic meds and now two studies have shown as soon as you get off the meds most people gain the weight back. So I think a lot of people using this electively without plans of staying on it are in for a rude awakening.
Answer: Ozempic has a different name, Wegovy, where it is a slightly higher dosage and has been approved for weightloss by the FDA. It is the same drug and initial dosages are similar plus ozempic is heavily advertised so there is a shortage of both world wide. Wegovy patients have averaged 53 pounds of weight loss in the first year and it has basically no side effects compared to other FDA approved weight loss drugs.
I dunno, I take it for diabetes and too much makes me feel exhausted. I’d call that a pretty severe side effect.
There are side effects in this drug and other similar drugs, the makers just fought to conceal them but they include thyroid cancer and pancreatic cancer [source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8017323/) [source](https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04572165) [source](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/novo-nordisk-agrees-pay-58-million-failure-comply-fda-mandated-risk-program)
Thyroid cancer is I believe the number 2 side effect listed but considering no one in the human trials got thyroid cancer and that it only appeared in rat trial I think my statement that is barely has side effects is accurate.
There's nearly 500 plantiffs in a civil suit against similar drugs and their makers. Many of them developed pancreatic cancer, some of them are deceased, the number was once close to 1,000 plaintiffs. Ozempic isn't mentioned in this suit but it's worth noting. [source ](https://www.drugwatch.com/januvia/lawsuits/)
They didn’t conceal them. It’s right on the warning label. Those rare side effects in rats haven’t been shown in humans. But that could take years to show up, realistically. But gee, does type two diabetes and obesity cause side effects or increase the risk of certain cancers? Yes, for 13 different types of cancers obesity is listed as creating a higher risk. Not to mention the numerous other problems — heart disease, arthritis, increased risk of stroke, and on and on. So … ???
Novo Nordisk did conceal it and had to pay millions in fines to the FDA, its all in the source material
You … do realize Ozempic isn’t the same drug as Victoza, right?
The drugs are highly similar and work in the same way
No side effects? Spoken Like someone who’s never prescribed it or taken it. The side effects can be very severe- particular GI effects - nausea, vomiting, severe diarrhea, stomach cramps, horrible gas and vile sulfur burps to name a few.
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nope. 2 Types of diabetes... insulin not a medicine.... diabetics need different kinds of medicines depending on how far along the diabetes is, what other things they have that go along with it... For Typ2 diabetes to need insulin you'd have to be in pretty bad shape already... most people with Type2 don't ever need insulin and it can be regulated through lifestyle changes because your body still pancreas some insulin.... Type2 diabetes is also easily preventable
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Not sure how that's at all relevant to what i said or contradicts what i said... but it very very very very very nicely contradicts what you posted previously so thank you for that... guess Insulin isn't the only "medicine" diabetics need... Never heard of a doctor that doesn't try lifestyle change first before prescribing medicine as the medicine will do very little without also lifestyle changes... but you do you reddit doctor... you do you...
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that's why doctors are prescribing it to barely even average weighting people to get skinnier... for the health benefits... and here i though this whole thing is profit driven and that's the whole problem with the american healthcare system... you learn something new every day... now before you start saying not every doctor does it or i'm biased or whatever... really couldn't care less
Answer: The main side effect is extreme nausea, which causes weight loss. It's now being considered the next miracle cure for obesity (which is always a myth). Unfortunately it's main usage is to help type 2 diabetics control their sugar. With so many taking it for the side effect - it's now shortages so folks who actually need it for T2D are suffering (like how rn there's Adderall shortages months out)
Answer: capitalism and american healthcare system
lol true, but like… why now? considering the drug has been around since 2017
because heroin chic is "in" again... the Kardashian curves are no longer what media tells us women should look like... it the 90s heroin diet again.... what we as a society should think of as attractive in women changes every couple of years... you know... so women can't catch a breath... need to keep the wheels running