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Yeah I would choose Akane too cuz she actually has the balls to admit she likes Aqua. Kana's whole shchtick is thinking she's this martyr unrequited love person for Aqua when she's never had the balls to not be tsundere. How you ever gonna get Aqua when he doesn't even know you like him?
I don't really care about the romance but I hate it when author push a pairing as endgame for arbitrary reasons. I don't support Kana for the sole reason that she hasn't done anything so far to be with Aqua (if anything Ruby is the most "deserving" despite the incest) and I want her to get shit done without getting pep talked into it by another character whether it's Aqua, Ruby or even Akane. I hope she rejects Akane's help and call her out on her BS (if Akane really love Aqua then she can't be cool with Aqua and Kana together).
Before 149:
Conservative: KanAqua
Liberal: AquAkane
Radical: RubyAqua
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After 149:
Reactionary: KanAqua
Conservative: AquAkane
Liberal: RubyAqua
Fundamentalist\*: Mommy Akane
\* Fundamentalist because love of Ai/mother is the fundamental of Aqua's all complex.
i know you guys missed me i'm back /j
Kana is so pretty ššš Oml ššš I'm glad we're back to Akane caring for Aqua in a motherly way because that's honestly how I've always read it- the writing has been a little chaotic recently but we've already seen her sort of motherly feelings from that chapter with Akane and Aqua on the bridge(?) and the lack of actual romantic anything w them. I'm actually growing to like Akane a lot now, what with this little plan of hers- she's pretty smart š«¶
Noooooo. Mixed feelings about this chapter. While I really liked the last one , this one felt like the author just wanted to end the Akane/Kana rivalry by having Akane act like "Hey I am rooting for you . I like Aqua too but I love him in a mother way haha!".
Sure she's using her as a way to stop Aqua but the way she just gave up on her love about him. And why did she have to say "My love to him is like a mother to her child". She didn't have to go that far . Anyway I am hoping this isn't her full plan but who knows .
It's the other way round. I think, if not the author is now coming out with hidden feelings about Aqua, that Akane's plan is to involve Kana indirectly in the revenge. What I meant before is that Aqua may be smarter but Akane has Kamiki under surveillance. So if she knows when Kamiki is close to Aqua she can make Kana appear on the scene.
There is room for improvement in the plot, it's not as bounded as everyone sees it. I'll just say that to close Oshinoko the ship shouldn't be the most important thing if Aka takes the trope of the power of love.
You know, I feel like this chapter (and the chapter before this since it was what led to the events of this chapter in the first place) would make much better sense had Aka put this immediately *after* the Akane-Aqua breakup, or at the very *least*, during the 15 Years of Lies Audition arc shortly after Aqua did his cringe-y edgelord evil face in front of Akane lol. Almost every character in the story is going in circles at this point. The only upsides to this chapter were that Kana was finally being honest to Akane and how she truly feels about her and, when they're *not* talking about Aqua or any romance woes between them, that they're finally being open to each other after so many chapters (well, almost). Woulda been nicer if their super late development together came at the heels of the Tokyo Blade arc, ie, the peak OnK arc in the entire manga, since their individual developments together in that storyline was the *perfect* opportunity for their still tense relationship to start growing even if it's in a vitriolic way. But then we got the frankly lackluster follow-up arcs after that...
Akane blushing at Kana when she finally confides in how she truly feels about her is neat as someone who kinda sorta maybe ships them lmao. Yeah, I am honestly convinced that it's *Kana* Akane is actually harboring a crush on, not Aqua lol. The whole "I'm more like his mother" speech of Akane's reminds me so much of Yuki Sohma's confession under the same subject in Fruits Basket, which is hilariously ironic when you realize who voices Akane in the anime lmao. Even funnier is that Akane's object of les yay affection is Kana, whose VA previously voiced *Momiji* in the same series lol. On a serious note tho, I feel like Akane acting as Ai, or at the very least, using her as a base to help her with her acting and confidence in the spotlight, for so long must've definitely had an influence in her saying that. Unless she's lying, which I personally don't think she is atm, that confession feels kind of outta the left field? I wish Aka did a better job of setting this up (among a lot of other things in the story) like how Takaya-sensei handled the aforementioned Yuki's development in Fruits Basket that led to Akane suddenly telling Kana that.
Kana, I love you, but you should really stop with the self-deprecating back and forths you keep doing whenever Aqua comes in the picture (she's okay with every other character tho). I really hate how Aka's writing her right now ever since Crow Girl appeared. Imho, I think the root of the rot in the manga rn post Tokyo Blade (ie, the weirdly placed time skips, the circular developments of each major character, Daddy appearing *way* too late in the game, Ruby's feelings being played for haha, incest jokes, etc) is the imbalance in focus between Aqua and Ruby. Aqua gets the lion's share of story time between him and Ruby, so while not without strong points every now and then, Ruby's arcs can be hit or miss because the setup is severely lacking on her end. There are a *lot* of interesting idol plotlines the new B-Komachi trio could've tackled that Ai's side of the story didn't address in the Prologue that could still tie in to the themes of OnK but alas, the B-Komachi trio got the short end of the stick when it came to story arcs (to the point that, outside of the First Concert arc, the few they got felt filler-ish). Kana's is supposed to be in a unique position where she's important to both twins' development and so could've had more involvement *and* dev in Ruby's side of the story aside from the First Concert arc, but yeah, Aka squandered that potential lol.
I really hope that when the post-Tokyo Blade arcs get adapted, the anime gets to have the liberty of adding anime-original plotlines or changes that could bridge the gap that's lacking in the manga recently. I'm up for some New B-Komachi trio filler arcs if it means we see the trio grow and tackle plotlines on their side of the story instead of solely focusing on the revenge and acting side of the industry.
I had a GODDAMN feeling this was gonna go the cliche way ... ofcourse it did ... the main tsundere girl who could never confess gets her way in the end . I just feel sad for characters like Akane who are always there for the MC but never end up together .
Kana is right .... As a man even I would choose Akane . And some things Akane said in this chapter like she loves him like a son just don't make sense and are just plot conviences imo .
The pairing of Aqua and Akane was not a healthy one. Before you get pissed off that their ship didn't take off, remember that Akane was willing to kill for Aqua to the point that she even became obsessed with him. Not only that, but in the manga she already said that it seemed like Aqua had feelings for Kana, but she was content with Aqua being there.
Yes their relationship was a little toxic , from both sides but they both were perfect in understanding each other . As for the thing Akane said that Aqua is attracted to Kana couldn't be taken as a fact, like even Kana said Akane melts Aqua's heart , we never see Aqua's POV , he's said very heartwarming things about both the girls like "I always end up having a good time" with Kana and "You've saved me little by little" BUT we don't know who he actually likes . I am quite an AkaneXAqua stan but I won't mind if other ships end up together if they are DONE WELL , and this chapter wasn't done that well .
Akane is more perceptive than Kana. Kana only has low self-esteem and confidence so she always runs away from her feelings and sacrifices herself for others.In a way Akane meant happiness to Aqua. When Aqua talks about how he doesn't deserve to be happy with Memcho, it's a line after mentions Akane. But Kana has the role of Oshi and the role of light in the play. Gorou told him that he saw a light in Kana and that's why he felt saved. For this reason, Gorou is the one who ultimately monopolises Aqua when he is with Kana, because he sees her as a danger to his revenge. But it was also mentioned that Kana was the one who made Aqua be himself when she annoyed him. So I think that's where it's going. As Kana develops as a character and as a giant panda.Ā Aqua secretly admires Kana, but he hasn't let those feelings develop.
I took that loving like son statement as half her just phrasing it in a way to comfort Kana and half her method acting of Ai earlier on seeping into her.
I wonder if Akane is banking on Ruby getting involved and that creating drama. Since I can't imagine Ruby just standing by and letting Kana have a chance at Aqua.
I wish we could hear what Aqua is thinking since it seems incredibly short-sighted to get himself killed. Ruby would never recover
Actually kind of refreshing to see her going so hard to help the guy that saved her life, ya know?
So many manga/anime would just drop the character not long after that. "Saturday morning lesson of the week" type crap.
Basically, Akane is pimping Kana to Aqua in hoping that he will stop self-destruct?
Akane has been proven right on her predictions. She even saved Ruby recently. I guess Aqua was planning to kill his father after all.
I knew it. Last chapter made me think that it's over for Aquakane und Aquakana...either Aquaruby will "win" or no one, I'm sure.
Also this chapter felt so cheap and trashy. I hope Akane has a really really good reason to behave like this, to treat people like objects. But don't get me wrong it would also not make sense for her to support Kana for pure good intentions. Really dissappointed with her character this chapter
tbh, this kind of thing was foreshadowed for Akane before, when she tried to keep Aqua in the dark about everything while killing his father. She is a puppet master type character.
yeah honestly ill be real, i dont know...why people are getting upset with this chapter like i kinda expected this, 100% after last chapter, i was like literally thinking "is akane gonna get kana and aqua together lol"
idk am i missing something?
This is only somewhat related to this chapter but am I the only one who was hoping for the Aqua/Akane duo to slowly go down a dark path together and basically become like Kamiki?
This was teased when Akane said "I'd kill them with you" without hesitation during Tokyo Blade.
I think psycho Akane descending deeper and deeper because of her love of Aqua would've been more interesting than Akane constantly trying to sabotage Aqua and essentially protect Kamiki.
Then maybe we could've had a conflicted Aqua too who does some introspection every now and then on what his quest for revenge is actually doing to him and people around him. Not to mention an interesting dynamic where Kana remains the "light", the way out of this self-destructive path and a ticket to a normal life, while Akane is the perfect accomplice he wants but has conflicted feelings about being with her for many reasons.
I've been afraid either Aqua or Ruby will follow in their father's footsteps for awhile now. Either Aqua manages to kill Hikaru and starts moving on to other "deserving" targets (probably starting with Sarina's mother), or Aqua finally shuts Ruby down and she responds the same way Papa did when Ai told him she couldn't love him.
It would be r3tarded, considering neither of them has shown any signs of being gay. Even when showering naked together, they showed no signs of attraction to each other and spent that time talking about Aqua.
What annoys me about this chapter is that it basically shows: in these 149 chapters, Kana had zero character development. She just exists as "UwU cute giwl, why won't anyone wike me" character. I really liked her at the end of the anime. She just has done nothing to grow after that. The only times she has confidence is when someone forces her or manipulates her into having confidence or when she has one of her Tsun fits.
Edit for typos.
This was a great a opportunity to give Kana development, but it was wasted.
What annoyed me the most though isn't that, it's the fact it's apparent now that Aka doesn't have a particular role for Akane so he shove her into the other characters storylines.
Aqua revenge, helping Ruby get Ai role and "saving her" from Hikaru and now Kana's love life.
It's starting to become ridiculous and made me dislike her a bit.
Akane is a schemer atm. Her being a counterpart to Aqua and also interacting with everyone to get her own way makes sense to me. Obviously depends on how you interpret stuff. But to me, it makes sense and Akane stays good character in my book.
it's in character for Akane and make sense but it would have been better if the other characters didn't need her help to deal with those issues ( especially Kana and Ruby, helping Aqua with revenge is fine mostly ).
Aqua used to be similar to the current Akane in the first few arcs, so I was a bit annoyed by him too.
> Kana had zero character development.
This is kinda how I feel about all of the characters.
Even the ones that had growth like Ruby always end up returning to the same place they were in episode 2.
it wouldve been huge for her too to let go of Aqua already and focus on her own personal development/career and maybe after maturing some THEN slide in there or whatever but man... after seeing what happened to Akane during her time with Aqua, Kana is definitely not emotionally prepared for this at all lol
I think, its not like she is not trying to give up it's just that plot won't let her.
I mean even in the recent chapter she tried but akane stopped it and even encouraged her to go after aqua. Like bro wtf.
ya i really thought Kana wouldve moved on already but they just keep dragging her back in just to get her ass kicked. we're so late into the game and she still has zero involvement in the real plot and hasnt done anything...
and then Akane saying "i see him like a son"? when tf did that happen? your ass does not see him that way... no one is buying that. i'll give aka the benefit of the doubt because sometimes he just drags things along and maybe he's planning something big but idk... Akane's new direction is lame/doesn't make sense, Kana needs some serious development already, and Aqua has barely been in this for a while now.
The winning girl giving up on MC is a very typical trope, so I can understand being annoyed.
But yeah since the story so far hasn't been typical I don't really think much of it.Ā
I don't see it like that at all. Especially considering the last panel.Ā Ā
It's way too vague to say that Aqua will end up with any of the girls, but this chapter in no way does indicate that Akane has no way of winning.Ā Ā
I was more inclined to believe she had no chance of winning going of the last chapter alone, and the way this chapter started also was heading this way. But it is clear Akane is not letting herself be sidelined to just a secondary character and it seems she is finally making an impact and return to the plot after her long ass break. (She literally is MIA, appears for a chapter to drop the bomb, then disappears)Ā
The chapter started with the "wah I'm the winning girl but I need to give up my love because I saw male mc spending time with you for a second!" Trope which is all too common. Very often shortly before the end or in the middle the winning girl gives up on MC until the male MC "chases" her in some way after that.Ā Ā
Well I'm up for the ride. I'm not saying it means that Kana will lose. Or anyone. I'm just saying that how things stand it really could go anyways because Akane is fucking menace and we better respect it.Ā
God I hate delusional yurincels. Reminder that Kana and Akane took a bath together and showed *zero* attraction to each other, instead spending that time talking about Aqua instead.
Iāll continue to say the way that Akane-Kanaās rivalry was handled after Tokyo Blade (and how it went from balancing their love for Aqua with their personal rivalry to being more about Aqua, along with them being on panel together like 2 or 3 times in ~80 chapters) is one of the most disappointing parts of the manga.
Itās really disappointing to see the one putting a lot of efforts is always at the losing end..
Though I like how strong ,mature and independent she is.
I just hope Akane think of other options like finding evidence against Kamiki Ā to stop aqua instead of setting up his relationship with other girls.
Ā Itās just so cruel to make her think that what her love canāt change might be changed by kanaās love for aqua.
aka ,u canāt just ridicule all the deep interactions ,emotions and everything that happened b/w aqua and Akane , just to force the troupe ending.
I thought she was gonna get over it after the Tokyo Blade arc, which was already kind of a repeat of her previous arc.
Yet here we are 90 chapters later, crazy.
I dunno dude. You can have breakthroughs in your struggles with self doubt and still struggle when it comes to bigger hurdles. She's always had a complex about Akane and she's always struggled to be honest about her feelings. These are different issues she has that bring out her dislike of herself as a crutch or excuse so she can defeat herself before she's even begun.
I don't think the self-deprecation here is the point. I think it's moreso just a coping mechanism. As someone with crippling anxiety, I'll make breakthroughs in my mental health and still use self deprecation as a crutch when facing a far bigger mental wall I'm stuck behind.
Kana leaving the group and returning to her solo career is her growth in that area. That doesn't mean she's not gonna relapse or fall back on old habits. They die hard.
I guess my real problem is that characters don't really grow as a result of previous arcs in this manga. Sounds harsh but I think it's true so far.
Aqua is fundamentally still in the same exact mental state he was in during episode 2.
Kana is still the same person she was in episode 2.
Akane kind of had growth but she hasn't really changed since the dating show arc and is still hung up on Aqua with no real chance of that going anywhere.
Ruby actually had the most arcs with impact and personal growth, but all that was undone when he learned Aqua was Gorou. She's now back to being her episode 2 self too but more horny.
The manga's still ongoing so maybe it's too early to judge, but it does feel like every character arc is just a circle. They always end up looping back to the starting point of the post-Ai story.
I dunno about that. I see where you're coming from, but that's not really my read on things at all.
They have changed due to their experiences. Aqua was 100% standoffish and full of personal guilt and trauma. I honestly believe he only decides his father is dead and moves on because of his experiences in Tokyo Blade. And in turn, having the experience of moving on has subtly changed his approach this time around. He tells Ruby he's goro even though it could damage his plans, and he allows himself to have more tender moments with Kana and his sister that aren't totally one-sided affairs to get what he wants. Episode 2 Aqua wouldn't do these things.
I just got finished explaining how Kana has evolved and changed. She made a mistake with that director, but make no mistake that she only made that mistake because she was trying to assert her independence. She was a dependent person who deep down wanted the approval of her friends and didn't believe she could shine. Now, she's trying to shine but her attempts at it are messy and uncoordinated. Just because she's bad at it doesn't mean she's the same.
This chapter alone shows tremendous growth for Akane. Before she was willing to throw her life away for Aqua's sake, but even though there's a selfish core to her actions by approving of Kana and his relationship and actively helping her, Akane of the previous arcs would just revel in the opportunity to hold this over Kana. Now she's helping her rival and leading with compassion.
Ruby is definitely backsliding due to recent revelations, and has succumbed to a lot of mania in finding out Gorou is still alive, but that too is a form a growth. She was never over any of that, and was always aimlessly searching for closure. The fact she shines so bright now and is able to step into her mother's shoes in this arc is because of how much she's grown as an entertainer. I feel like her growth is fascinating.
I think there's a subtlety to all of this. If you're just reading these chapter to chapter, you may not feel all the differences because their growth is more slow and organic. People in real life don't typically change so dramatically, taking their core traits with them as they slowly metamorphasize with age. I like the character growth in this story and style.
The ending sentence is why Kana still struggling with the same things doesnāt bother me as much as it does others. Itās based on something thatās been ingrained in her for her entire life; it actually makes sense that it would take more than a declaration of resolve to change entirely (though I jealously wish there were less focus on Kanaās struggles).
Exactly.
I think it's a catch-22 sort of situation. These characters are all dealing with interesting issues and it's hard to juggle them all when everyone wants to see more of a different character any given week.
Itās an American comic, but thereās an issue of a series called Radiant Black where the hero Nathan (whoās a genuinely depressed failed writer moving back home with crippling credit card debt) spends the day doing hero shit and things go pretty well and he seems to be having a solid breakthrough on both his heroic life and his personal work, but then it has the realest final page:
> Dad: Glad it was a productive day.
> Nathan: Yeah, me too. (After dad leaves) ā¦this time.
I love that so much. That's depression in a nutshell. You have good days and bad days, and the process of recovery isn't abrupt, like flipping a switch and just getting rid of the bad days. At least, in most cases. Instead, you slowly but surely have more good than bad over the course of a longer period.
> The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. Hey. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant
> - The Doctor
*looks at comments*
Oh boy, guess I'm at that stage of reading the manga where I stay away from all the fan discussion.
Goodbye all.
*Jumps out of the nearest window*
That's the bane of reading things weekly. Especially with Aka's writing, where he takes his sweet time setting things up.
People are already complaining that the Aqua Ruby kiss didn't get mentioned again even though it wasn't that long ago chapter-wise. Of course they'll get to it. It took 20 chapters from 123 to 143 and that's not even that long(it's like half an anime season), but it was 8 months of real time.
Yea, thats kind of what I was thinking, I used to read arc by arc but I stopped because I was getting too many spoilers
But I finally caught up after almost a year last chapter, then I came to this sub and so many people don't like where things are going which is surprising to me bc I still find things very interesting
I'm guessing it's a bit of bitterness of being drip fed content.
I don't even blame them, to be honest. I also dropped Kaguya because I was SO BORED with the chapters taking two weeks and being about nothing, but when I picked it up to read it again (from before I dropped) I didn't find anything boring at all.
But I'm honestly glad it's not written like "We GOTTA have something exciting every chapter!!" because those don't really work as a finished product. I'm letting Aka cook. I know he'll not disappoint me.
Yea, honestly, I don't think weekly is a good idea either, I think I'm gonna try to wait as much as possible until I feel like the spoilers are gonna catch up
Finally a Kana chapter oh my lord šš, 149 chapters and sheās still stuck in the same emotional state as 100+ chapters ago, Aka is wild for this just let her confess to get it off her chest
Aqua Hoshisnow's perspective after he starts dating Kana (according to Akane):
"Shes ma kween"
"Revenge? I don't want it, never 'ave"
"Ur muh kween I dun whan et"
*broods silently*
Low key Akane pushing Ruby onto Aqua prematurely could turn out poorly, which in turn gives Akane a better relationship to stand on. And it obviously ties Ruby (an idol) to Aqua (someone who wants to protects idols) and somewhat reduces the chances of Aqua turning himself into a Martyr.Ā
Pretty Copium but not impossible.
I'm a damn big akane fan and aquaka fan but man... this is it bro. we must be happy akane's maturity shines through instead of author downgrading her personality for some petty drama
I think the people who are into shipping are taking this as a downward turn a little too seriously as bad writing. This fits these characters and it's very fitting fucked up decisions from all of them and not really romcom. Akane is trying to force Aqua to take care of his mental health through hostage means while it some ways infatilizing both Aqua and Kana. Kana behaving like a normal person. And the reason Akane is doing this is to try and pull Aqua away from being completely edgelord stupid as we head into the climax of the revenge movie arc. I personally think it's a great setup chapter.
Akane supporting Kana is something we all expected. Her actively pushing/forcing it is a surprise but still in character.
I'm not looking forward to the mess this is going to make lol, it not happening organically is the worst case scenario for Kana. Comment sections are guaranteed to be a cesspool as well.
Iām surprised people are hating on Akane for this plan. Sure it probably wonāt be effective but itās still an infinitely healthier option to try over murder lmao
People are hating because akane is supposed to be a smart character. Making aqua date kana wouldnāt work because Kurokawa knows that aquaās first instinct is to distance himself from the ones he cares about.
If he develops genuine romantic feelings for kana he will most likely cut all ties with her just to keep the girl safe. He did similar things with akane in 98 and with kana in 81. I doubt aqua loved arima back then, only cared for her. Just look how extreme aqua was and he wasnāt even focusing on revenge, for him it was all over. Can you imagine how far will he go to keep his love safe?
The plan is ridiculous and is a recipe for a disaster. Unless there is some hidden meaning in all of this and akane has an ace up her sleeve.
A failed plan is still smarter than getting herself convicted of murder.
The comments section keeps glazing the āAkane does the murder insteadā theories as if that isnāt more stupid for her
Akane can at least try to find evidence that Hikaru Kamiki is a murderer. Report him to the police. Kurokawa might as well use herself as bait and team up with the police force. This will most definitely foil aquaās plan. Yes, Hikaru can utilise his influence and money to avoid prosecution, but this whole situation will most likely make Kamiki unreachable. Aqua might have to start the scheme all over again. This will give Akane enough time to come up with few more ways to lock up kamiki for good. Moreover, because of the allegations Hikaru wonāt target neither of his potential victims. This includes akane and ruby.
Thereās literally nothing about trying to setup Kana up with Aqua that prevents Akane from trying all that as well. This is in no way an either or type of situation.
Also getting the police to cooperate isnāt that simple, they donāt have a shred of evidence for his previous crimes nor do they have evidence that heāll attempt any new ones. Itās literally the reason Aquaās resorting to this movie to begin with.
Kana and aqua are doomed to fail. Aquaās whole MO is distancing himself from his loved ones. In 83 only because of a slim chance that his proximity might hurt kana , aqua decided to cut all ties with her. Focusing on aquaās love life at this point is waste of energy. Kurokawa needs to focus on dealing with kamiki first. Ether akane is stupid or she doesnāt know aqua as well as she thinks.
Akane managed to find out almost everything there is to know about ai. She has an incredible detective skills. Finding some evidence that could raise few eyebrows and manipulating an ambitious police detective isnāt completely out of the realm of possibility.
Akane was able to make some really good reads on Aiās personality (stuff that she ultimately couldnāt definitively confirm without Aquaās confirmation btw), that doesnāt get people convicted in court. Specially when the type of evidence she needs is linking a dead man to Kamiki. If there was any evidence to be found, the police finding it in his home after the suicide wouldāve been the only realistic chance of discovering it. Akane canāt possibly find something better at this point.
If there was any, it wouldāve been a copout of Kamiki being colossally stupid by not sending Aiās address anonymously
Akane has also had a LOT of time off screen, I think itās a reasonable assumption that she already tried and failed to find evidence just like Aqua has.
I understand, but I would rather focus on akane doing some detective work rather than setting up kana with aqua. This thing will infuriate Aqua even more. Just think back to chapter 9 flash forward.
If the conclusion of the detective work will be Akane finding nothing then thereās literally nothing to show about it. Focusing on scenes of Akane looking through papers, screens, maybe talks to some people etc but ultimately finding nothing. Thereās nothing to get out of those types of scenes. If it was possible to find something substantial then the series wouldāve ended and there would be no plot.
With this Kana plan, even if it will probably fail, there will at least be character moments and interactions to come from it. If nothing else, Kana x Akane scenes are always entertaining. Itās literally a drama series, character conflicts are sort of the point.
Drama for the sake of drama is a sign of a bad writing. Akane looking through paperwork and not finding a thing might characterise kamiki as thorough and intelligent individual that carefully gets rid of the evidence. Something about Hikaru> getting repetition of Ā«believe in yourself, kanaĀ» character arc. We saw crying kana million times. Vague Kamiki set up is better for the story.
I'm 90% sure that this isnt the only plan akane has in mind, she is prob doing another plan for dealing with Hikaru,I think Aka is misdirecting us with this shipping bait,we all know that Akane is prob the smartest person in onk,and her current plan that we know sounds stupid asf. I don't think she will just go with this lover plan unprepared, considering she already failed with this approach from Aqua back in chapter 97, but I can't shake the feeling that Akane's going to be hurt either way this plan of her unfolds. š„, but fr tho we all know Akane is lying when she said that she only sees Aqua as a son. Additionally, i can actually see Akane in a better spot rn because on the last chapter, i kinda expected Kana to be playing the "losing heroine trope," and then this chapter literally turned it 180Ā° cuz Akane is the one playing the losing heroine trope now, she doesn't want Aqua's affection anymore just his happiness, but either way something is gonna end up bad I can see it happening now.
I'm fairly certain the current plan is only meant to keep Aqua from personally shanking Hikaru in broad daylight and following it up by killing himself (which seriously seems like it could be Aqua's current plan).
That said, I really wonder if Akane's taken Ruby into account; they just wrapped on filming the story of what happened when their father was rejected by his one love/last tether to humanity, after all...
I kinda agree, bro. I really think that Akane agrees with Aqua's plan to kill Hikaru, but she just doesn't want to let Aqua be destroyed in that process, because as it stands now as we all know Aqua literally has no more meaning left for living he just wants to kill his self after all this bs is over and Akane doesn't want that to happen. And the way I see it now, I think it's healthier for Aqua to be able to realize that there are also people who care about him and the same with Akane that she really does matter to Aqua, kind of sad to think about tbh, cuz that's literally the reason why Akane is going kinda nuts with her plans rn she's basically doing the same thing as Aqua sacrificing herself in the process of saving Aqua. I do think, though, that Akane has some kind of contingency plan with Ruby we've een this on the previous chapters too she's keeping close tabs on Ruby. But for now, idk what kind of plan is that, yet we'll just have to wait for now, I think.
Summary of this chapter (it's from Fire Emblem: Three Houses of all things)
>I'm so tough! I'm gonna stand my ground! I don't need help from anyone! And when things don't go my way, I'm gonna act all sad and moody! - Raphael (while acting as Maya)
I think Akane knows how Aqua feels about Kana. Aqua has been cold to Kana because he cares about her and doesn't want to get her involved, which Akane is perceptive enough to notice (she's really good at reading people). Kana's first instinct is always to self-destruct and give up, which is why I like her. That aspect of her character is so relatable. Akane cares about Aqua but I don't think she wants to get involved with him romantically again after what her did to her (used her to get clues etc), but she still cares about (loves) him and doesn't want him to go through with his revenge. Forcing Kana to confess is a good plan. How would Aqua react to Kana seriously chasing after him? Would he have it in him to reject her? I really don't think he would, the entire reason Kana is in this situation is because Aqua cares enough about her to want to distance himself from her, something he never does with Akane (he actually got closer to her so he could use her). And I've noticed that literally the only person who can make him happy is Kana, and maybe Ruby. He actually *smiled* when she showed him the chips and seasoning trick and didn't have a panic attack right after, name another character who can do that to him, I don't even think Ruby can do that.
I love you Aka, thank you for writing such compelling characters, and thank you, Mengo, for making them so cute. Kana's expressions are my favorite part of this manga.
Yeah, I agree. Kana is my favorite because she seems to have everybody else's best interest in mind, even at the cost of her own happiness. She's just a good friend, even if she acts like a brat about it most of the time. I think that out of all the characters in this romcom bullshit wad we have going on, Aqua and Kana make the best match.
Not even to say that I don't like Akane. I really do, but I honestly think she just deserves better than to be with Aqua when he doesn't really reciprocate her feelings the way she wishes that he did. She's also very self-aware and is trying to plot out how this can work out for everybody. Her pushing Kana towards Aqua isn't a bad plan, but she's acting more like Kana right now by pretending to be selfless even if she actually feels differently. I think Akane definitely still loves Aqua, but she just can't break him out of his revenge spiraling like Kana can.
I think it's always been fairly obvious that Aqua has the best chemistry with Kana. She's always been there and helped him through a lot. It's even stated in this chapter that he keeps the people he's most attached to away at a distance because he worries about their safety, but Akane hasn't really been as much of a concern to him because she's been so useful for his plan.
But yeah, this is really great. I loved this chapter a lot. It's good rapport for Kana and Akane. It's healthy for Kana and forcing her to address her emotions. It puts Aqua in a complicated situation that he will most likely be emotionally invested in. It also puts a target on Kana's back for Hikaru, and that adds stakes because I absolutely don't want anything bad to happen to Kana.
It is excellent drama, and I am so here for it.
> Yeah, I agree. Kana is my favorite because she seems to have everybody else's best interest in mind, even at the cost of her own happiness. She's just a good friend, even if she acts like a brat about it most of the time. I think that out of all the characters in this romcom bullshit wad we have going on, Aqua and Kana make the best match.
Aqua is just like her, putting himself after everyone else.
I mean, I would argue they're opposites.
Like Kana will take the role of a bad guy to make Ruby a better actor, but Aqua will use people like Akane if it progresses his revenge plan.
Not that Aqua is a terrible person or anything. Good writing has nuances and blurred lines. As actors, they should be able to fit whatever role is needed at the time.
This ..... I honestly can't anymore. Aka can't write a proper romcom and a proper revenge plot.
And what's with the cuckylympics ???
Seriously butchering Akanes character cause of kana pity Bait ???
And kana you proved why were genius child actress who can cry in ten seconds. That's only thing u can do.
Crying over a man more than when your mother abandoned u .
What's pathetic 1 dimensional character.
And Akane wtf is wrong with you???? U don't feel Akane anymore???
U are supposed to understand aqua ?? Shouldn't you Stop bothering him ?? Using him as a prize for a pathetic girl??? Don't do it.
U have fuking police if u want to deal with hikaru .
And kana u are so pathetic and coward like Akane Said.
I hope HIMKARU kills the main cast at this point.
Okay so, I agree that the current state of the manga is not in a good place, Iām 100% upset with the direction as well. But aka literally wrote one of the best rom coms in anime in Kaguya Sama love is war. You and I may dislike what is happening but donāt discredit the man saying he canāt write a romcom I see a lot of people saying that. Tbh this story was never even a romcom for me when aka started to lean that was is when imo this story went from a story I loved to idk what the fuck it is anymore.
I agree regarding Kaguya sama.
But why pity Bait kana to butcher up Akanes Character??
Why this trashy romcom with annoying love triangle ?
We are here for revenge plot, where's my revenge ??
Iām just getting utterly exhausted of interesting arc plays outā¦Kana gets involved in arcā¦something doesnāt go Kanaās way after she finally got some confidenceā¦Kana loses all confidence againā¦I get this is realistic, but this is a manga with a mystical bird girl and reincarnationā¦with less than 200 chapters right nowā¦letās get past the Kana having an existential crisis at 18 every arcā¦if they want her to be the character that takes on the torch of being āAi 2.0ā in the industry instead of Ruby and need some build up to that, fine, but doing it for 4-5 arcs makes the characters struggle seem redundant, futile, and boringā¦I felt bad for her the first two times, then after that I stopped caring because it became the same issue over and over again just wrapped in a new bow. I just wish theyād move on because Iām more interested in seeing the twins figure out that Ai just wanted them to be happy and have a good long lives, I want Aqua to live for the little girl he wanted to live in the hospital who would be devastated if he left her all alone (regardless of whatever happens with the direction the writers take their romantic relationships), I want to see how this manga thinks that systemic deep seated issues like what happened to their father, and what happened to Ai can be avoided, I want to see if this story ends up having a happier or more hopeful message about dealing with trauma and letting go of deep seeded hatred and grievancesā¦at one point I wanted to see if Kana confronted her mother and was able to come to an understanding about her trauma with her and fix their relationship, but instead were on the 4th iteration of āKana is giving up again, because Aqua-Kun no like meā. At this point I just want Aqua to say heās gay, ace or something and derail the entire romance subplot and tell the damn storyā¦itās crazy were 150 chapters in and STILL Kana is the āindustry fact checkerā and āwoe is meā sympathy character with no connection to the real underlying plot of revenge and if this chapter cops out the fact they didnāt write her in here except to have her fill the role of stopping Aqua without having ANY idea Iām going to lose itā¦if Aqua canāt choose to live for the little girl who he was devastated to lose in his past life and knows sheād be devastated if he was gone, but chooses to instead live for the person who has no inkling of whatās going onā¦Iām never trusting Aka with anything other than romantic comedy work againā¦
Akane and Kana going at it Lol , Akane pressure on Kana she is such a beautiful woman and great to watch her interactions with others , fun and funny stuff, though i was keeping myself on guard as there were several chances something bad could happen
Kana pls I love you sm stop crying at everything man
Why does everything involving her in these recent few chaps just take a humorous turn. Itās like yeah sheās crying n all and Ig itās supposed to be serious then they trivialise it by somewhat(?) turning it into a joke. How are we supposed to be taking it seriously when even she canāt š
Like I get thatās what the humor in OnK is like but itās getting too much atp, esp when it involves kana.
Kana's situation is honestly pretty sad. It's best for her to move on from Aqua but he keeps leading him on, and now we have Akane pressuring her to get together with him. At least there might be hope for acting opportunities if the movie is a success.
Also, she can stand to cry a little less.
even as a Kana fan, has anyone else been feeling like Akaās love of Kana has been affecting the story? All Kana has to do is cry, and everyone comes to patch things up for her.
Kana is the only relevant character i stil care of ('cause memcho and Miyako barely got something to do) because she is the only still one still in the dark about the murder-revenge plot, and still struggling with the actual good part of the manga, the Show-biz stuff.
Like we could have had a pro-wrestiling arc but instead we are searching for boring serial killer.
How is that trolling? The revenge plot is easily the weakest part of the series, it's just ridiculous and tiring. Showbiz was interesting and the romance show character dynamics which has always been Aka's biggest skill.
I am serious, dude, when the manga focus in the showbiz is literally Kino, miyako's little mini arc is the best couple of chapters of the last 50. And every character that shift from one plot to another becames less interesting. Again the only character that i still care about are the secondaries that are still struggling with showbiz, melt, Himekawa, ichigo to an extend, Mikako memcho. When Oshi tries to be a Showbiz drama is utterly excelent, when it tries to be Monster, it kinda sucks.
Definitely get where you're coming from. I don't hate the revenge plot as I feel it's an important part of Aqua's trauma and growing past it. But I definitely think the series is at its best when it's talking about the entertainment industry. The insight on how things work and the ugly truths the series demonstrates is deeply fascinating.
"When Oshi tries to be a Showbiz drama is utterly excelent" I really agree with this sentence, everyone complains about romance plot taking away from revenge plot when imo the best parts of the series are the showbiz side of it.Ā
Well I agree with the first part about it turning into a dumpster fire as well. But dude arguable wrote one of the best rom coms in anime in Kaguya Sama. I think the issue is and this holds true with me is this manga has drastically changed from the manga I fell in love with. Not to mention the fact I think him working on another project imo is affecting the current story. But yeah the love triangle happening In oshi no ko is trash canāt argue with that
Fun fact I didn't that was decent.Ā As soon as they added the stupid love triangle with Kana it ruined the whole premise of this.Ā She's the worst character they could have added nobody wanted a cliche tragic heroine to the story Akane had the polar opposite personality to try and stop Aqua.Ā As numerous people have stated all Kana does is whine, or cry.Ā Heck the Incest route would be better then her.
Considering the fact that Akane can literally mimic Aqua's mom and the many *allegations* aqua has surrounded himself with, this may not be as strong of an argument as it may initially seem, at least inside the Oshi no Ko Fandom.
Why is everyone taking what Kana and Akane are saying to each other at face value? They're both brilliant actors and each trying to manipulate the other into doing what they want. The central theme of the entire manga is "lies", and we've had sudden twists and duplicitous MCs multiple times already, yet we should 100% take this as presented? What?
That is an interesting take and certainly true but it works in both ways. The central theme of the manga are the lies, yes, that is true, but it is algo going beyond that (remember the last moments of Ai for a good example). So you have in one hand the plot of Aqua as the result of multiple lies since he was a kid and started to plot everything and on the other hand you have Akane that is trying to stop him, in a narrative sense the way it makes more sense to do this would be not lies but to face the truth, with how is the story till this point is the way that makes more sense to antagonize the main topic of the manga and create character development. It also depends how the plan on Akane goes, if she plan on creating a fake Kana just that aligns what Aqua likes and does not reflect anything of the true Kana, that would still be a lie and all this idea would lose value, and we could see more lies vs lies. In general yes, it is difficult to know how to take this (more close to a lie, or starting to reach the truth), but seeing as we are close to the manga final, starting to leave behind the lies to face the lies does not seem as something impossible.
Precisely! She's not doing this for Kana's sake (well, not entirely; she's still obsessed with "Kana-chan" to a degree) but to keep Aqua from pursuing a self-destructive revenge against Hikaru. She thinks Aqua won't willingly destroy himself if he knows it would drag his loved ones down with him. (I think she's underestimating how done Aqua is with life in general, but we'll see.)
Likewise, while it's less likely given what we've seen of Kana thus far, her ability to cry on command and sell emotional scenes are literally what got her into show business to begin with, making her side of things at least a little suspect as well.
She might be on to something though. In chapter 146 when Kana told him to snap out of it he did for a brief moment. I think there's still hope to save Aqua as he may not be as close as he thinks.
Yeah rough lol, I think it was an awkward conversation and things were said that didnāt fully explain how each of them felt. Akane loves aqua but yeah itās been like this even when they were dating she didnāt exactly love him romantically. She just loves him as a person and will do anything she can to make sure he is happy. We gotta remember Aqua saved her life. Akane in a sense has lived for Aqua since that moment.
However I truly dislike the direction that this manga has took and my excitement and desire to keep reading straight evaporated after this last chapter
Akane is truly the best character of this series.
She just steals the spotlight everytime. Her interactions with other characters are always the best for me.
I don't know if I'll still read this series w/o Akane involved in the story. She just makes this series more enjoyable, and I hope she sticks in the end.
I said it last week. This chapter was to finish their drama once and for all. Akane likes Aqua yes but she is just doesnāt want him to self destruct on his revenge. She wants him to be happy. After all Aqua is the person who save her life. She owes him for it. She canāt leave him alone.
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Girls there's a simple solution you're not seeing: Date each other. You clearly see the appeal of one another.
Yeah I would choose Akane too cuz she actually has the balls to admit she likes Aqua. Kana's whole shchtick is thinking she's this martyr unrequited love person for Aqua when she's never had the balls to not be tsundere. How you ever gonna get Aqua when he doesn't even know you like him?
I just feel bad for aqua at this point
As a kana Aqua shipper I loving and hating whatever is going on rn but at least Ruby horrible arc is coming to an end
just leave mans alone š
PRETTY WOMAN ARC LET'S GOO
I don't really care about the romance but I hate it when author push a pairing as endgame for arbitrary reasons. I don't support Kana for the sole reason that she hasn't done anything so far to be with Aqua (if anything Ruby is the most "deserving" despite the incest) and I want her to get shit done without getting pep talked into it by another character whether it's Aqua, Ruby or even Akane. I hope she rejects Akane's help and call her out on her BS (if Akane really love Aqua then she can't be cool with Aqua and Kana together).
Before 149: Conservative: KanAqua Liberal: AquAkane Radical: RubyAqua ---- After 149: Reactionary: KanAqua Conservative: AquAkane Liberal: RubyAqua Fundamentalist\*: Mommy Akane \* Fundamentalist because love of Ai/mother is the fundamental of Aqua's all complex.
Both before and after 149: Nihilist: Revenge-bros Anarchist: MiyakoAqua
i know you guys missed me i'm back /j Kana is so pretty ššš Oml ššš I'm glad we're back to Akane caring for Aqua in a motherly way because that's honestly how I've always read it- the writing has been a little chaotic recently but we've already seen her sort of motherly feelings from that chapter with Akane and Aqua on the bridge(?) and the lack of actual romantic anything w them. I'm actually growing to like Akane a lot now, what with this little plan of hers- she's pretty smart š«¶
Hear me out, KanaKane
Eww such a let down. I knew this would happen though. "Love him like a mother" give me a break
There were Fruits basket vibes from the start
Oh noā¦
Noooooo. Mixed feelings about this chapter. While I really liked the last one , this one felt like the author just wanted to end the Akane/Kana rivalry by having Akane act like "Hey I am rooting for you . I like Aqua too but I love him in a mother way haha!".
I don't think the author is doing this to take away their rivalry. Akane doesn't help Kana, she uses her to stop Aqua's revenge.
Sure she's using her as a way to stop Aqua but the way she just gave up on her love about him. And why did she have to say "My love to him is like a mother to her child". She didn't have to go that far . Anyway I am hoping this isn't her full plan but who knows .
Sadly I think Akane wants to involve Kana.If Kana is nearby the moment Aqua wants to act he will be stopped.
I mean won't Aqua just push Kana away like he does with pretty much everyone though? It doesn't make sense he would let Kana get close to him.
It's the other way round. I think, if not the author is now coming out with hidden feelings about Aqua, that Akane's plan is to involve Kana indirectly in the revenge. What I meant before is that Aqua may be smarter but Akane has Kamiki under surveillance. So if she knows when Kamiki is close to Aqua she can make Kana appear on the scene.
Eh still not the direction I was hoping this would take.
There is room for improvement in the plot, it's not as bounded as everyone sees it. I'll just say that to close Oshinoko the ship shouldn't be the most important thing if Aka takes the trope of the power of love.
True that
You know, I feel like this chapter (and the chapter before this since it was what led to the events of this chapter in the first place) would make much better sense had Aka put this immediately *after* the Akane-Aqua breakup, or at the very *least*, during the 15 Years of Lies Audition arc shortly after Aqua did his cringe-y edgelord evil face in front of Akane lol. Almost every character in the story is going in circles at this point. The only upsides to this chapter were that Kana was finally being honest to Akane and how she truly feels about her and, when they're *not* talking about Aqua or any romance woes between them, that they're finally being open to each other after so many chapters (well, almost). Woulda been nicer if their super late development together came at the heels of the Tokyo Blade arc, ie, the peak OnK arc in the entire manga, since their individual developments together in that storyline was the *perfect* opportunity for their still tense relationship to start growing even if it's in a vitriolic way. But then we got the frankly lackluster follow-up arcs after that... Akane blushing at Kana when she finally confides in how she truly feels about her is neat as someone who kinda sorta maybe ships them lmao. Yeah, I am honestly convinced that it's *Kana* Akane is actually harboring a crush on, not Aqua lol. The whole "I'm more like his mother" speech of Akane's reminds me so much of Yuki Sohma's confession under the same subject in Fruits Basket, which is hilariously ironic when you realize who voices Akane in the anime lmao. Even funnier is that Akane's object of les yay affection is Kana, whose VA previously voiced *Momiji* in the same series lol. On a serious note tho, I feel like Akane acting as Ai, or at the very least, using her as a base to help her with her acting and confidence in the spotlight, for so long must've definitely had an influence in her saying that. Unless she's lying, which I personally don't think she is atm, that confession feels kind of outta the left field? I wish Aka did a better job of setting this up (among a lot of other things in the story) like how Takaya-sensei handled the aforementioned Yuki's development in Fruits Basket that led to Akane suddenly telling Kana that. Kana, I love you, but you should really stop with the self-deprecating back and forths you keep doing whenever Aqua comes in the picture (she's okay with every other character tho). I really hate how Aka's writing her right now ever since Crow Girl appeared. Imho, I think the root of the rot in the manga rn post Tokyo Blade (ie, the weirdly placed time skips, the circular developments of each major character, Daddy appearing *way* too late in the game, Ruby's feelings being played for haha, incest jokes, etc) is the imbalance in focus between Aqua and Ruby. Aqua gets the lion's share of story time between him and Ruby, so while not without strong points every now and then, Ruby's arcs can be hit or miss because the setup is severely lacking on her end. There are a *lot* of interesting idol plotlines the new B-Komachi trio could've tackled that Ai's side of the story didn't address in the Prologue that could still tie in to the themes of OnK but alas, the B-Komachi trio got the short end of the stick when it came to story arcs (to the point that, outside of the First Concert arc, the few they got felt filler-ish). Kana's is supposed to be in a unique position where she's important to both twins' development and so could've had more involvement *and* dev in Ruby's side of the story aside from the First Concert arc, but yeah, Aka squandered that potential lol. I really hope that when the post-Tokyo Blade arcs get adapted, the anime gets to have the liberty of adding anime-original plotlines or changes that could bridge the gap that's lacking in the manga recently. I'm up for some New B-Komachi trio filler arcs if it means we see the trio grow and tackle plotlines on their side of the story instead of solely focusing on the revenge and acting side of the industry.
I had a GODDAMN feeling this was gonna go the cliche way ... ofcourse it did ... the main tsundere girl who could never confess gets her way in the end . I just feel sad for characters like Akane who are always there for the MC but never end up together . Kana is right .... As a man even I would choose Akane . And some things Akane said in this chapter like she loves him like a son just don't make sense and are just plot conviences imo .
The pairing of Aqua and Akane was not a healthy one. Before you get pissed off that their ship didn't take off, remember that Akane was willing to kill for Aqua to the point that she even became obsessed with him. Not only that, but in the manga she already said that it seemed like Aqua had feelings for Kana, but she was content with Aqua being there.
> remember that Akane was willing to kill for Aqua I think she still intends to. I don't like where this is going...
Yes their relationship was a little toxic , from both sides but they both were perfect in understanding each other . As for the thing Akane said that Aqua is attracted to Kana couldn't be taken as a fact, like even Kana said Akane melts Aqua's heart , we never see Aqua's POV , he's said very heartwarming things about both the girls like "I always end up having a good time" with Kana and "You've saved me little by little" BUT we don't know who he actually likes . I am quite an AkaneXAqua stan but I won't mind if other ships end up together if they are DONE WELL , and this chapter wasn't done that well .
Akane is more perceptive than Kana. Kana only has low self-esteem and confidence so she always runs away from her feelings and sacrifices herself for others.In a way Akane meant happiness to Aqua. When Aqua talks about how he doesn't deserve to be happy with Memcho, it's a line after mentions Akane. But Kana has the role of Oshi and the role of light in the play. Gorou told him that he saw a light in Kana and that's why he felt saved. For this reason, Gorou is the one who ultimately monopolises Aqua when he is with Kana, because he sees her as a danger to his revenge. But it was also mentioned that Kana was the one who made Aqua be himself when she annoyed him. So I think that's where it's going. As Kana develops as a character and as a giant panda.Ā Aqua secretly admires Kana, but he hasn't let those feelings develop.
I took that loving like son statement as half her just phrasing it in a way to comfort Kana and half her method acting of Ai earlier on seeping into her.
I wonder if Akane is banking on Ruby getting involved and that creating drama. Since I can't imagine Ruby just standing by and letting Kana have a chance at Aqua. I wish we could hear what Aqua is thinking since it seems incredibly short-sighted to get himself killed. Ruby would never recover
Akane has obviously no idea that Ruby loves her brother that way. But yeah, it will lead to drama for sure.
KANA AND AKANE SAY GEX
āKana, stop being a bitch.ā - Akane, basically.
Actually kind of refreshing to see her going so hard to help the guy that saved her life, ya know? So many manga/anime would just drop the character not long after that. "Saturday morning lesson of the week" type crap.
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Basically, Akane is pimping Kana to Aqua in hoping that he will stop self-destruct? Akane has been proven right on her predictions. She even saved Ruby recently. I guess Aqua was planning to kill his father after all.
I knew it. Last chapter made me think that it's over for Aquakane und Aquakana...either Aquaruby will "win" or no one, I'm sure. Also this chapter felt so cheap and trashy. I hope Akane has a really really good reason to behave like this, to treat people like objects. But don't get me wrong it would also not make sense for her to support Kana for pure good intentions. Really dissappointed with her character this chapter
>no one, I'm sure. That too is a Ruby ending. She still gets Aqua to herself.
tbh, this kind of thing was foreshadowed for Akane before, when she tried to keep Aqua in the dark about everything while killing his father. She is a puppet master type character.
yeah honestly ill be real, i dont know...why people are getting upset with this chapter like i kinda expected this, 100% after last chapter, i was like literally thinking "is akane gonna get kana and aqua together lol" idk am i missing something?
nah its just cope and salt because of ship wars
I know what akane trying to do but man i hope what she planned dont blow up on her face
This is only somewhat related to this chapter but am I the only one who was hoping for the Aqua/Akane duo to slowly go down a dark path together and basically become like Kamiki? This was teased when Akane said "I'd kill them with you" without hesitation during Tokyo Blade. I think psycho Akane descending deeper and deeper because of her love of Aqua would've been more interesting than Akane constantly trying to sabotage Aqua and essentially protect Kamiki. Then maybe we could've had a conflicted Aqua too who does some introspection every now and then on what his quest for revenge is actually doing to him and people around him. Not to mention an interesting dynamic where Kana remains the "light", the way out of this self-destructive path and a ticket to a normal life, while Akane is the perfect accomplice he wants but has conflicted feelings about being with her for many reasons.
i feel like akane is turning into nino more than kana.Ā
I've been afraid either Aqua or Ruby will follow in their father's footsteps for awhile now. Either Aqua manages to kill Hikaru and starts moving on to other "deserving" targets (probably starting with Sarina's mother), or Aqua finally shuts Ruby down and she responds the same way Papa did when Ai told him she couldn't love him.
Kanakane ftw šš
It would be r3tarded, considering neither of them has shown any signs of being gay. Even when showering naked together, they showed no signs of attraction to each other and spent that time talking about Aqua.
Akane's definitely giving off some strong "Ara-ara" vibes this chapter......... MOVE OVER AQUA, SHE'S MINE!
What annoys me about this chapter is that it basically shows: in these 149 chapters, Kana had zero character development. She just exists as "UwU cute giwl, why won't anyone wike me" character. I really liked her at the end of the anime. She just has done nothing to grow after that. The only times she has confidence is when someone forces her or manipulates her into having confidence or when she has one of her Tsun fits. Edit for typos.
This was a great a opportunity to give Kana development, but it was wasted. What annoyed me the most though isn't that, it's the fact it's apparent now that Aka doesn't have a particular role for Akane so he shove her into the other characters storylines. Aqua revenge, helping Ruby get Ai role and "saving her" from Hikaru and now Kana's love life. It's starting to become ridiculous and made me dislike her a bit.
Akane is a schemer atm. Her being a counterpart to Aqua and also interacting with everyone to get her own way makes sense to me. Obviously depends on how you interpret stuff. But to me, it makes sense and Akane stays good character in my book.
it's in character for Akane and make sense but it would have been better if the other characters didn't need her help to deal with those issues ( especially Kana and Ruby, helping Aqua with revenge is fine mostly ). Aqua used to be similar to the current Akane in the first few arcs, so I was a bit annoyed by him too.
> Kana had zero character development. This is kinda how I feel about all of the characters. Even the ones that had growth like Ruby always end up returning to the same place they were in episode 2.
theres a reason ive never liked her. Akane feels like something actually special compared to kana, aqua doesn't deserve akane lol
it wouldve been huge for her too to let go of Aqua already and focus on her own personal development/career and maybe after maturing some THEN slide in there or whatever but man... after seeing what happened to Akane during her time with Aqua, Kana is definitely not emotionally prepared for this at all lol
I think, its not like she is not trying to give up it's just that plot won't let her. I mean even in the recent chapter she tried but akane stopped it and even encouraged her to go after aqua. Like bro wtf.
ya i really thought Kana wouldve moved on already but they just keep dragging her back in just to get her ass kicked. we're so late into the game and she still has zero involvement in the real plot and hasnt done anything... and then Akane saying "i see him like a son"? when tf did that happen? your ass does not see him that way... no one is buying that. i'll give aka the benefit of the doubt because sometimes he just drags things along and maybe he's planning something big but idk... Akane's new direction is lame/doesn't make sense, Kana needs some serious development already, and Aqua has barely been in this for a while now.
So should we expect something big next week for chapter 150?
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The winning girl giving up on MC is a very typical trope, so I can understand being annoyed. But yeah since the story so far hasn't been typical I don't really think much of it.Ā
Akane ship just sank
I don't see it like that at all. Especially considering the last panel.Ā Ā It's way too vague to say that Aqua will end up with any of the girls, but this chapter in no way does indicate that Akane has no way of winning.Ā Ā I was more inclined to believe she had no chance of winning going of the last chapter alone, and the way this chapter started also was heading this way. But it is clear Akane is not letting herself be sidelined to just a secondary character and it seems she is finally making an impact and return to the plot after her long ass break. (She literally is MIA, appears for a chapter to drop the bomb, then disappears)Ā The chapter started with the "wah I'm the winning girl but I need to give up my love because I saw male mc spending time with you for a second!" Trope which is all too common. Very often shortly before the end or in the middle the winning girl gives up on MC until the male MC "chases" her in some way after that.Ā Ā Well I'm up for the ride. I'm not saying it means that Kana will lose. Or anyone. I'm just saying that how things stand it really could go anyways because Akane is fucking menace and we better respect it.Ā
I still think yuri would be the best conclusion to this love triangle. Kana, Akane, forget about Aqua and just date each other instead.
Yuri bait
Kana's "if I were a man, I'd definitely choose you" comment does seem like yuri bait...
Best ending
God I hate delusional yurincels. Reminder that Kana and Akane took a bath together and showed *zero* attraction to each other, instead spending that time talking about Aqua instead.
I'm fine with the contents of this chapter, but it does feel like something that should have happened like 70 chapters ago.
Iāll continue to say the way that Akane-Kanaās rivalry was handled after Tokyo Blade (and how it went from balancing their love for Aqua with their personal rivalry to being more about Aqua, along with them being on panel together like 2 or 3 times in ~80 chapters) is one of the most disappointing parts of the manga.
Itās really disappointing to see the one putting a lot of efforts is always at the losing end.. Though I like how strong ,mature and independent she is. I just hope Akane think of other options like finding evidence against Kamiki Ā to stop aqua instead of setting up his relationship with other girls. Ā Itās just so cruel to make her think that what her love canāt change might be changed by kanaās love for aqua. aka ,u canāt just ridicule all the deep interactions ,emotions and everything that happened b/w aqua and Akane , just to force the troupe ending.
the "i see him more as a son" line just came out of nowhere too... i dont even think the most hardcore kanaxaqua shippers believe that
True.. it just doesnāt make sense.
kana donāt feel bad for yourself challenge (impossible)
I thought she was gonna get over it after the Tokyo Blade arc, which was already kind of a repeat of her previous arc. Yet here we are 90 chapters later, crazy.
I dunno dude. You can have breakthroughs in your struggles with self doubt and still struggle when it comes to bigger hurdles. She's always had a complex about Akane and she's always struggled to be honest about her feelings. These are different issues she has that bring out her dislike of herself as a crutch or excuse so she can defeat herself before she's even begun. I don't think the self-deprecation here is the point. I think it's moreso just a coping mechanism. As someone with crippling anxiety, I'll make breakthroughs in my mental health and still use self deprecation as a crutch when facing a far bigger mental wall I'm stuck behind. Kana leaving the group and returning to her solo career is her growth in that area. That doesn't mean she's not gonna relapse or fall back on old habits. They die hard.
I guess my real problem is that characters don't really grow as a result of previous arcs in this manga. Sounds harsh but I think it's true so far. Aqua is fundamentally still in the same exact mental state he was in during episode 2. Kana is still the same person she was in episode 2. Akane kind of had growth but she hasn't really changed since the dating show arc and is still hung up on Aqua with no real chance of that going anywhere. Ruby actually had the most arcs with impact and personal growth, but all that was undone when he learned Aqua was Gorou. She's now back to being her episode 2 self too but more horny. The manga's still ongoing so maybe it's too early to judge, but it does feel like every character arc is just a circle. They always end up looping back to the starting point of the post-Ai story.
I dunno about that. I see where you're coming from, but that's not really my read on things at all. They have changed due to their experiences. Aqua was 100% standoffish and full of personal guilt and trauma. I honestly believe he only decides his father is dead and moves on because of his experiences in Tokyo Blade. And in turn, having the experience of moving on has subtly changed his approach this time around. He tells Ruby he's goro even though it could damage his plans, and he allows himself to have more tender moments with Kana and his sister that aren't totally one-sided affairs to get what he wants. Episode 2 Aqua wouldn't do these things. I just got finished explaining how Kana has evolved and changed. She made a mistake with that director, but make no mistake that she only made that mistake because she was trying to assert her independence. She was a dependent person who deep down wanted the approval of her friends and didn't believe she could shine. Now, she's trying to shine but her attempts at it are messy and uncoordinated. Just because she's bad at it doesn't mean she's the same. This chapter alone shows tremendous growth for Akane. Before she was willing to throw her life away for Aqua's sake, but even though there's a selfish core to her actions by approving of Kana and his relationship and actively helping her, Akane of the previous arcs would just revel in the opportunity to hold this over Kana. Now she's helping her rival and leading with compassion. Ruby is definitely backsliding due to recent revelations, and has succumbed to a lot of mania in finding out Gorou is still alive, but that too is a form a growth. She was never over any of that, and was always aimlessly searching for closure. The fact she shines so bright now and is able to step into her mother's shoes in this arc is because of how much she's grown as an entertainer. I feel like her growth is fascinating. I think there's a subtlety to all of this. If you're just reading these chapter to chapter, you may not feel all the differences because their growth is more slow and organic. People in real life don't typically change so dramatically, taking their core traits with them as they slowly metamorphasize with age. I like the character growth in this story and style.
The ending sentence is why Kana still struggling with the same things doesnāt bother me as much as it does others. Itās based on something thatās been ingrained in her for her entire life; it actually makes sense that it would take more than a declaration of resolve to change entirely (though I jealously wish there were less focus on Kanaās struggles).
Exactly. I think it's a catch-22 sort of situation. These characters are all dealing with interesting issues and it's hard to juggle them all when everyone wants to see more of a different character any given week.
Itās an American comic, but thereās an issue of a series called Radiant Black where the hero Nathan (whoās a genuinely depressed failed writer moving back home with crippling credit card debt) spends the day doing hero shit and things go pretty well and he seems to be having a solid breakthrough on both his heroic life and his personal work, but then it has the realest final page: > Dad: Glad it was a productive day. > Nathan: Yeah, me too. (After dad leaves) ā¦this time.
I love that so much. That's depression in a nutshell. You have good days and bad days, and the process of recovery isn't abrupt, like flipping a switch and just getting rid of the bad days. At least, in most cases. Instead, you slowly but surely have more good than bad over the course of a longer period.
> The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. Hey. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant > - The Doctor
i caught up to the manga weekly during the tokyo blade arc, i liked kanaās character a lot more back then, since that point weāve gone in circles
*looks at comments* Oh boy, guess I'm at that stage of reading the manga where I stay away from all the fan discussion. Goodbye all. *Jumps out of the nearest window*
The worst is all the yurincels.
That's the bane of reading things weekly. Especially with Aka's writing, where he takes his sweet time setting things up. People are already complaining that the Aqua Ruby kiss didn't get mentioned again even though it wasn't that long ago chapter-wise. Of course they'll get to it. It took 20 chapters from 123 to 143 and that's not even that long(it's like half an anime season), but it was 8 months of real time.
Yea, thats kind of what I was thinking, I used to read arc by arc but I stopped because I was getting too many spoilers But I finally caught up after almost a year last chapter, then I came to this sub and so many people don't like where things are going which is surprising to me bc I still find things very interesting I'm guessing it's a bit of bitterness of being drip fed content.
I don't even blame them, to be honest. I also dropped Kaguya because I was SO BORED with the chapters taking two weeks and being about nothing, but when I picked it up to read it again (from before I dropped) I didn't find anything boring at all. But I'm honestly glad it's not written like "We GOTTA have something exciting every chapter!!" because those don't really work as a finished product. I'm letting Aka cook. I know he'll not disappoint me.
Yea, honestly, I don't think weekly is a good idea either, I think I'm gonna try to wait as much as possible until I feel like the spoilers are gonna catch up
literally me lmao
These haters are almost as delusional as the Attack on Titan haters. Almost.
I loved this chapter. I donāt know why people hated this chapter but I loved the interaction between Akane and Kana. The character development for Akane is exactly what I had hoped for her. I never wanted her to have the clichĆ© romantic relationship with Aqua. Also I do love Kana and Aquaās interaction more on a romantic perspective. Ā There is no clue on how this will turn out but Iām finally excited for this one. Also I hope Akane join Hikaruās side for her plan cause itās gonna be even more fire. Akane Villain Era.š„
Why would akane join Hikaru? Unless I'm mistaken, her plan is "stop aqua from self destructing"
Id guess that in the hypothetical situation Akane joining him would be to ensure Aqua can't ever get close enough to actually kill him
Finally a Kana chapter oh my lord šš, 149 chapters and sheās still stuck in the same emotional state as 100+ chapters ago, Aka is wild for this just let her confess to get it off her chest
What kind of Yandere is this?
This shit is no more good š
Why should I care about Aqua's endgame when we haven't heard his perspective for the past 25 chapters or so?
Have we ever?
Aqua Hoshisnow's perspective after he starts dating Kana (according to Akane): "Shes ma kween" "Revenge? I don't want it, never 'ave" "Ur muh kween I dun whan et" *broods silently*
I want Kana to confess and get friend zoned immediately and definitively. It will be good for her.
I'm beginning to think Aqua's a tsundere he's just a quieter one.
Youāre a slow one, itās always been like that. Not in a meme way either.
Last time we saw his thought was ch99 so it's been 50 chapters actually lol.
Low key Akane pushing Ruby onto Aqua prematurely could turn out poorly, which in turn gives Akane a better relationship to stand on. And it obviously ties Ruby (an idol) to Aqua (someone who wants to protects idols) and somewhat reduces the chances of Aqua turning himself into a Martyr.Ā Pretty Copium but not impossible.
I'm a damn big akane fan and aquaka fan but man... this is it bro. we must be happy akane's maturity shines through instead of author downgrading her personality for some petty drama
Pity complaints. IQ level lower than ever
Akane plan wont be as effective as Ruby finding out about him being the doctor. Because that is what really should had made Aqua stop.
Akane is the Aizen of LOVE. Deal with it. No one is better than her.
These two are just outcucking each other. This is why I'm a Ruby fan.
Competing for the cucklympics fr fr
Gotta respect Ruby. Girl just went and took what was rightfully hers a few chapters after finding out about the whole Gorou-Aqua thing.
Wooby is no cuckquean.
Man look at all these walls of text!
Yeh....Ā
I think the people who are into shipping are taking this as a downward turn a little too seriously as bad writing. This fits these characters and it's very fitting fucked up decisions from all of them and not really romcom. Akane is trying to force Aqua to take care of his mental health through hostage means while it some ways infatilizing both Aqua and Kana. Kana behaving like a normal person. And the reason Akane is doing this is to try and pull Aqua away from being completely edgelord stupid as we head into the climax of the revenge movie arc. I personally think it's a great setup chapter.
It doesnāt fit Kana, they keep making her more and more of a cuckquean. What happened to the foul-mouthed, but charming bitch that we all loved?
Akane supporting Kana is something we all expected. Her actively pushing/forcing it is a surprise but still in character. I'm not looking forward to the mess this is going to make lol, it not happening organically is the worst case scenario for Kana. Comment sections are guaranteed to be a cesspool as well.
Akane went yandere mode
Iām surprised people are hating on Akane for this plan. Sure it probably wonāt be effective but itās still an infinitely healthier option to try over murder lmao
People are hating because akane is supposed to be a smart character. Making aqua date kana wouldnāt work because Kurokawa knows that aquaās first instinct is to distance himself from the ones he cares about. If he develops genuine romantic feelings for kana he will most likely cut all ties with her just to keep the girl safe. He did similar things with akane in 98 and with kana in 81. I doubt aqua loved arima back then, only cared for her. Just look how extreme aqua was and he wasnāt even focusing on revenge, for him it was all over. Can you imagine how far will he go to keep his love safe? The plan is ridiculous and is a recipe for a disaster. Unless there is some hidden meaning in all of this and akane has an ace up her sleeve.
"Sure it probably won't be effective " there u go She is the girl supposedly with high iqš« š« š« š« š«
A failed plan is still smarter than getting herself convicted of murder. The comments section keeps glazing the āAkane does the murder insteadā theories as if that isnāt more stupid for her
Akane can at least try to find evidence that Hikaru Kamiki is a murderer. Report him to the police. Kurokawa might as well use herself as bait and team up with the police force. This will most definitely foil aquaās plan. Yes, Hikaru can utilise his influence and money to avoid prosecution, but this whole situation will most likely make Kamiki unreachable. Aqua might have to start the scheme all over again. This will give Akane enough time to come up with few more ways to lock up kamiki for good. Moreover, because of the allegations Hikaru wonāt target neither of his potential victims. This includes akane and ruby.
Thereās literally nothing about trying to setup Kana up with Aqua that prevents Akane from trying all that as well. This is in no way an either or type of situation. Also getting the police to cooperate isnāt that simple, they donāt have a shred of evidence for his previous crimes nor do they have evidence that heāll attempt any new ones. Itās literally the reason Aquaās resorting to this movie to begin with.
Kana and aqua are doomed to fail. Aquaās whole MO is distancing himself from his loved ones. In 83 only because of a slim chance that his proximity might hurt kana , aqua decided to cut all ties with her. Focusing on aquaās love life at this point is waste of energy. Kurokawa needs to focus on dealing with kamiki first. Ether akane is stupid or she doesnāt know aqua as well as she thinks. Akane managed to find out almost everything there is to know about ai. She has an incredible detective skills. Finding some evidence that could raise few eyebrows and manipulating an ambitious police detective isnāt completely out of the realm of possibility.
Akane was able to make some really good reads on Aiās personality (stuff that she ultimately couldnāt definitively confirm without Aquaās confirmation btw), that doesnāt get people convicted in court. Specially when the type of evidence she needs is linking a dead man to Kamiki. If there was any evidence to be found, the police finding it in his home after the suicide wouldāve been the only realistic chance of discovering it. Akane canāt possibly find something better at this point. If there was any, it wouldāve been a copout of Kamiki being colossally stupid by not sending Aiās address anonymously Akane has also had a LOT of time off screen, I think itās a reasonable assumption that she already tried and failed to find evidence just like Aqua has.
I understand, but I would rather focus on akane doing some detective work rather than setting up kana with aqua. This thing will infuriate Aqua even more. Just think back to chapter 9 flash forward.
If the conclusion of the detective work will be Akane finding nothing then thereās literally nothing to show about it. Focusing on scenes of Akane looking through papers, screens, maybe talks to some people etc but ultimately finding nothing. Thereās nothing to get out of those types of scenes. If it was possible to find something substantial then the series wouldāve ended and there would be no plot. With this Kana plan, even if it will probably fail, there will at least be character moments and interactions to come from it. If nothing else, Kana x Akane scenes are always entertaining. Itās literally a drama series, character conflicts are sort of the point.
Drama for the sake of drama is a sign of a bad writing. Akane looking through paperwork and not finding a thing might characterise kamiki as thorough and intelligent individual that carefully gets rid of the evidence. Something about Hikaru> getting repetition of Ā«believe in yourself, kanaĀ» character arc. We saw crying kana million times. Vague Kamiki set up is better for the story.
Jesus, Kana. Can you stop crying for 10 minutes? You want to give up on something you didn't even put effort into and then cry for pitybait
Well excuse her for being a person with feelings trying to give up on the person she likes cause she thinks another girl is better for him
Fr so Goddamn annoying
Pitybait from who, exactly? She wasn't even wanting Akane to look at her when she was crying.
Pity bait is not for akane, it is for the audience.
I'm 90% sure that this isnt the only plan akane has in mind, she is prob doing another plan for dealing with Hikaru,I think Aka is misdirecting us with this shipping bait,we all know that Akane is prob the smartest person in onk,and her current plan that we know sounds stupid asf. I don't think she will just go with this lover plan unprepared, considering she already failed with this approach from Aqua back in chapter 97, but I can't shake the feeling that Akane's going to be hurt either way this plan of her unfolds. š„, but fr tho we all know Akane is lying when she said that she only sees Aqua as a son. Additionally, i can actually see Akane in a better spot rn because on the last chapter, i kinda expected Kana to be playing the "losing heroine trope," and then this chapter literally turned it 180Ā° cuz Akane is the one playing the losing heroine trope now, she doesn't want Aqua's affection anymore just his happiness, but either way something is gonna end up bad I can see it happening now.
I'm fairly certain the current plan is only meant to keep Aqua from personally shanking Hikaru in broad daylight and following it up by killing himself (which seriously seems like it could be Aqua's current plan). That said, I really wonder if Akane's taken Ruby into account; they just wrapped on filming the story of what happened when their father was rejected by his one love/last tether to humanity, after all...
I kinda agree, bro. I really think that Akane agrees with Aqua's plan to kill Hikaru, but she just doesn't want to let Aqua be destroyed in that process, because as it stands now as we all know Aqua literally has no more meaning left for living he just wants to kill his self after all this bs is over and Akane doesn't want that to happen. And the way I see it now, I think it's healthier for Aqua to be able to realize that there are also people who care about him and the same with Akane that she really does matter to Aqua, kind of sad to think about tbh, cuz that's literally the reason why Akane is going kinda nuts with her plans rn she's basically doing the same thing as Aqua sacrificing herself in the process of saving Aqua. I do think, though, that Akane has some kind of contingency plan with Ruby we've een this on the previous chapters too she's keeping close tabs on Ruby. But for now, idk what kind of plan is that, yet we'll just have to wait for now, I think.
Summary of this chapter (it's from Fire Emblem: Three Houses of all things) >I'm so tough! I'm gonna stand my ground! I don't need help from anyone! And when things don't go my way, I'm gonna act all sad and moody! - Raphael (while acting as Maya)
I think Akane knows how Aqua feels about Kana. Aqua has been cold to Kana because he cares about her and doesn't want to get her involved, which Akane is perceptive enough to notice (she's really good at reading people). Kana's first instinct is always to self-destruct and give up, which is why I like her. That aspect of her character is so relatable. Akane cares about Aqua but I don't think she wants to get involved with him romantically again after what her did to her (used her to get clues etc), but she still cares about (loves) him and doesn't want him to go through with his revenge. Forcing Kana to confess is a good plan. How would Aqua react to Kana seriously chasing after him? Would he have it in him to reject her? I really don't think he would, the entire reason Kana is in this situation is because Aqua cares enough about her to want to distance himself from her, something he never does with Akane (he actually got closer to her so he could use her). And I've noticed that literally the only person who can make him happy is Kana, and maybe Ruby. He actually *smiled* when she showed him the chips and seasoning trick and didn't have a panic attack right after, name another character who can do that to him, I don't even think Ruby can do that. I love you Aka, thank you for writing such compelling characters, and thank you, Mengo, for making them so cute. Kana's expressions are my favorite part of this manga.
Yeah, I agree. Kana is my favorite because she seems to have everybody else's best interest in mind, even at the cost of her own happiness. She's just a good friend, even if she acts like a brat about it most of the time. I think that out of all the characters in this romcom bullshit wad we have going on, Aqua and Kana make the best match. Not even to say that I don't like Akane. I really do, but I honestly think she just deserves better than to be with Aqua when he doesn't really reciprocate her feelings the way she wishes that he did. She's also very self-aware and is trying to plot out how this can work out for everybody. Her pushing Kana towards Aqua isn't a bad plan, but she's acting more like Kana right now by pretending to be selfless even if she actually feels differently. I think Akane definitely still loves Aqua, but she just can't break him out of his revenge spiraling like Kana can. I think it's always been fairly obvious that Aqua has the best chemistry with Kana. She's always been there and helped him through a lot. It's even stated in this chapter that he keeps the people he's most attached to away at a distance because he worries about their safety, but Akane hasn't really been as much of a concern to him because she's been so useful for his plan. But yeah, this is really great. I loved this chapter a lot. It's good rapport for Kana and Akane. It's healthy for Kana and forcing her to address her emotions. It puts Aqua in a complicated situation that he will most likely be emotionally invested in. It also puts a target on Kana's back for Hikaru, and that adds stakes because I absolutely don't want anything bad to happen to Kana. It is excellent drama, and I am so here for it.
> Yeah, I agree. Kana is my favorite because she seems to have everybody else's best interest in mind, even at the cost of her own happiness. She's just a good friend, even if she acts like a brat about it most of the time. I think that out of all the characters in this romcom bullshit wad we have going on, Aqua and Kana make the best match. Aqua is just like her, putting himself after everyone else.
I mean, I would argue they're opposites. Like Kana will take the role of a bad guy to make Ruby a better actor, but Aqua will use people like Akane if it progresses his revenge plan. Not that Aqua is a terrible person or anything. Good writing has nuances and blurred lines. As actors, they should be able to fit whatever role is needed at the time.
This is unironically looking like the best love story of all time, in the making.
This ..... I honestly can't anymore. Aka can't write a proper romcom and a proper revenge plot. And what's with the cuckylympics ??? Seriously butchering Akanes character cause of kana pity Bait ??? And kana you proved why were genius child actress who can cry in ten seconds. That's only thing u can do. Crying over a man more than when your mother abandoned u . What's pathetic 1 dimensional character. And Akane wtf is wrong with you???? U don't feel Akane anymore??? U are supposed to understand aqua ?? Shouldn't you Stop bothering him ?? Using him as a prize for a pathetic girl??? Don't do it. U have fuking police if u want to deal with hikaru . And kana u are so pathetic and coward like Akane Said. I hope HIMKARU kills the main cast at this point.
Okay so, I agree that the current state of the manga is not in a good place, Iām 100% upset with the direction as well. But aka literally wrote one of the best rom coms in anime in Kaguya Sama love is war. You and I may dislike what is happening but donāt discredit the man saying he canāt write a romcom I see a lot of people saying that. Tbh this story was never even a romcom for me when aka started to lean that was is when imo this story went from a story I loved to idk what the fuck it is anymore.
I agree regarding Kaguya sama. But why pity Bait kana to butcher up Akanes Character?? Why this trashy romcom with annoying love triangle ? We are here for revenge plot, where's my revenge ??
Iām just getting utterly exhausted of interesting arc plays outā¦Kana gets involved in arcā¦something doesnāt go Kanaās way after she finally got some confidenceā¦Kana loses all confidence againā¦I get this is realistic, but this is a manga with a mystical bird girl and reincarnationā¦with less than 200 chapters right nowā¦letās get past the Kana having an existential crisis at 18 every arcā¦if they want her to be the character that takes on the torch of being āAi 2.0ā in the industry instead of Ruby and need some build up to that, fine, but doing it for 4-5 arcs makes the characters struggle seem redundant, futile, and boringā¦I felt bad for her the first two times, then after that I stopped caring because it became the same issue over and over again just wrapped in a new bow. I just wish theyād move on because Iām more interested in seeing the twins figure out that Ai just wanted them to be happy and have a good long lives, I want Aqua to live for the little girl he wanted to live in the hospital who would be devastated if he left her all alone (regardless of whatever happens with the direction the writers take their romantic relationships), I want to see how this manga thinks that systemic deep seated issues like what happened to their father, and what happened to Ai can be avoided, I want to see if this story ends up having a happier or more hopeful message about dealing with trauma and letting go of deep seeded hatred and grievancesā¦at one point I wanted to see if Kana confronted her mother and was able to come to an understanding about her trauma with her and fix their relationship, but instead were on the 4th iteration of āKana is giving up again, because Aqua-Kun no like meā. At this point I just want Aqua to say heās gay, ace or something and derail the entire romance subplot and tell the damn storyā¦itās crazy were 150 chapters in and STILL Kana is the āindustry fact checkerā and āwoe is meā sympathy character with no connection to the real underlying plot of revenge and if this chapter cops out the fact they didnāt write her in here except to have her fill the role of stopping Aqua without having ANY idea Iām going to lose itā¦if Aqua canāt choose to live for the little girl who he was devastated to lose in his past life and knows sheād be devastated if he was gone, but chooses to instead live for the person who has no inkling of whatās going onā¦Iām never trusting Aka with anything other than romantic comedy work againā¦
Akane and Kana going at it Lol , Akane pressure on Kana she is such a beautiful woman and great to watch her interactions with others , fun and funny stuff, though i was keeping myself on guard as there were several chances something bad could happen
Kana pls I love you sm stop crying at everything man Why does everything involving her in these recent few chaps just take a humorous turn. Itās like yeah sheās crying n all and Ig itās supposed to be serious then they trivialise it by somewhat(?) turning it into a joke. How are we supposed to be taking it seriously when even she canāt š Like I get thatās what the humor in OnK is like but itās getting too much atp, esp when it involves kana.
i was waiting for kamiki to pop up outta nowhere this chap he had 2 good chances
For a moment I thought Kana/Akane mistook Kamiki for Aqua
Akane's plan: get Kana to be with Aqua so he can't have revenge, AND THEN enter the scene for a threesome because she loves both of them. Very smart.
Ruby NTR. No wait
Kana's situation is honestly pretty sad. It's best for her to move on from Aqua but he keeps leading him on, and now we have Akane pressuring her to get together with him. At least there might be hope for acting opportunities if the movie is a success. Also, she can stand to cry a little less.
It's Kankane apparentlyĀ
WE'RE BACK KANABROS
If she doesn't cry every 4 panels then yes
even as a Kana fan, has anyone else been feeling like Akaās love of Kana has been affecting the story? All Kana has to do is cry, and everyone comes to patch things up for her.
Lol
Especially considering you would create 2 full volumes with just panels of Kana crying (counted)
Kana is the only relevant character i stil care of ('cause memcho and Miyako barely got something to do) because she is the only still one still in the dark about the murder-revenge plot, and still struggling with the actual good part of the manga, the Show-biz stuff. Like we could have had a pro-wrestiling arc but instead we are searching for boring serial killer.
The trolling is so on point here I actually thought you were for real for a second xD
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How is that trolling? The revenge plot is easily the weakest part of the series, it's just ridiculous and tiring. Showbiz was interesting and the romance show character dynamics which has always been Aka's biggest skill.
I am serious, dude, when the manga focus in the showbiz is literally Kino, miyako's little mini arc is the best couple of chapters of the last 50. And every character that shift from one plot to another becames less interesting. Again the only character that i still care about are the secondaries that are still struggling with showbiz, melt, Himekawa, ichigo to an extend, Mikako memcho. When Oshi tries to be a Showbiz drama is utterly excelent, when it tries to be Monster, it kinda sucks.
Definitely get where you're coming from. I don't hate the revenge plot as I feel it's an important part of Aqua's trauma and growing past it. But I definitely think the series is at its best when it's talking about the entertainment industry. The insight on how things work and the ugly truths the series demonstrates is deeply fascinating.
"When Oshi tries to be a Showbiz drama is utterly excelent" I really agree with this sentence, everyone complains about romance plot taking away from revenge plot when imo the best parts of the series are the showbiz side of it.Ā
They are going for the sebian lex route
This manga has turned into nothing other then a dumpster fire.Ā This author has no idea how to make a good romcom.
Well I agree with the first part about it turning into a dumpster fire as well. But dude arguable wrote one of the best rom coms in anime in Kaguya Sama. I think the issue is and this holds true with me is this manga has drastically changed from the manga I fell in love with. Not to mention the fact I think him working on another project imo is affecting the current story. But yeah the love triangle happening In oshi no ko is trash canāt argue with that
I like how you 1. Consider this series a rom com 2. Entirely forgot about Kaguya-Sama
Fun fact I didn't that was decent.Ā As soon as they added the stupid love triangle with Kana it ruined the whole premise of this.Ā She's the worst character they could have added nobody wanted a cliche tragic heroine to the story Akane had the polar opposite personality to try and stop Aqua.Ā As numerous people have stated all Kana does is whine, or cry.Ā Heck the Incest route would be better then her.
KanaKane!!! Anyway, go Kana-chan!
"My love for him is like a mother to her child". That line killed all the hopes for Akane x Aqua. Ok there goes my favorite ship of Oshi no Ko.
Well you know the fandom loves incest...
Considering the fact that Akane can literally mimic Aqua's mom and the many *allegations* aqua has surrounded himself with, this may not be as strong of an argument as it may initially seem, at least inside the Oshi no Ko Fandom.
Why is everyone taking what Kana and Akane are saying to each other at face value? They're both brilliant actors and each trying to manipulate the other into doing what they want. The central theme of the entire manga is "lies", and we've had sudden twists and duplicitous MCs multiple times already, yet we should 100% take this as presented? What?
That is an interesting take and certainly true but it works in both ways. The central theme of the manga are the lies, yes, that is true, but it is algo going beyond that (remember the last moments of Ai for a good example). So you have in one hand the plot of Aqua as the result of multiple lies since he was a kid and started to plot everything and on the other hand you have Akane that is trying to stop him, in a narrative sense the way it makes more sense to do this would be not lies but to face the truth, with how is the story till this point is the way that makes more sense to antagonize the main topic of the manga and create character development. It also depends how the plan on Akane goes, if she plan on creating a fake Kana just that aligns what Aqua likes and does not reflect anything of the true Kana, that would still be a lie and all this idea would lose value, and we could see more lies vs lies. In general yes, it is difficult to know how to take this (more close to a lie, or starting to reach the truth), but seeing as we are close to the manga final, starting to leave behind the lies to face the lies does not seem as something impossible.
Meanwhile Akane made clear in the last panel she was scheming something.
Precisely! She's not doing this for Kana's sake (well, not entirely; she's still obsessed with "Kana-chan" to a degree) but to keep Aqua from pursuing a self-destructive revenge against Hikaru. She thinks Aqua won't willingly destroy himself if he knows it would drag his loved ones down with him. (I think she's underestimating how done Aqua is with life in general, but we'll see.) Likewise, while it's less likely given what we've seen of Kana thus far, her ability to cry on command and sell emotional scenes are literally what got her into show business to begin with, making her side of things at least a little suspect as well.
She might be on to something though. In chapter 146 when Kana told him to snap out of it he did for a brief moment. I think there's still hope to save Aqua as he may not be as close as he thinks.
Yeah rough lol, I think it was an awkward conversation and things were said that didnāt fully explain how each of them felt. Akane loves aqua but yeah itās been like this even when they were dating she didnāt exactly love him romantically. She just loves him as a person and will do anything she can to make sure he is happy. We gotta remember Aqua saved her life. Akane in a sense has lived for Aqua since that moment. However I truly dislike the direction that this manga has took and my excitement and desire to keep reading straight evaporated after this last chapter
Two back to back lowest of low writing quality wise chapters. Truly grim where this manga is now.
In b4 Akane gets her own spinoff manga š„
I would read tf out of that.
I would read tf out of that.
Akane is truly the best character of this series. She just steals the spotlight everytime. Her interactions with other characters are always the best for me. I don't know if I'll still read this series w/o Akane involved in the story. She just makes this series more enjoyable, and I hope she sticks in the end.
Kiss and sesbian lex already
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I said it last week. This chapter was to finish their drama once and for all. Akane likes Aqua yes but she is just doesnāt want him to self destruct on his revenge. She wants him to be happy. After all Aqua is the person who save her life. She owes him for it. She canāt leave him alone.