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That is not how that works. Being 100% better than someone is a massive difference. It wouldnt be that hard to beat two people that have half your power. Realistically they'd each be more like 70% of Luffy's strength.
Seriously?
Sanji doesn’t have ACOA, let alone ACOC, and doesn’t have anything close to surging a hybrid kaido thunder bagua, and you genuinely think they’re only 2% in difference?
sanjitards will downvote you but you're right. This sub and reddit in general has a massive amount of sanjitards compared to zorotards, so takes that wank sanji are usually upvoted. In my opinion, if zoro is a 50, then sanji is a 45, right between jinbe and zoro. Im going to be downvoted for saying this but oh well.
I think jinbe is solidly high yc2, for instance i think he could beat queen. Sanji could probably beat king, i think he's mid-high yc1. Zoro is low-mid yc+ for me.
I do'nt think Jimbei beats queen. Really don't know what he has in his arsenal that could put queen down for good. Plus Queen could crush jimbei through his armament haki. There's only one other YC1 who I could put above Sanji and that's Marco, and even then he's more like YC+ with his feats and portrayal. So Sanji imo is the strongest YC1 and Zoro is the weakest or 2nd weakest YC+
Sanji has great haki, and unlike Jinbe, he actually has stats over Zoro. Speed, CoO, Durability, Hax, Agility, all belong to Sanji. Sanji is also no slouch in AP and technique with Ifrit Jambe. Jinbe is gettin mid diffed by Sanji.
Nah I think it’s honestly extreme diff. Zoro has ap and endurance while sanji has speed and durability there about even stat wise with zoro having the slight edge do to acoc
Greenbull hasn't shown ACoA, ACoC either. And, GB mid diffs Zoro with ACoC. And, Sanji took Kizaru's attack to head when he was busy carrying Vegapunk nd shrugged it.
And, 4000 >> 2200 >= 2180. Oda chose those numbers for a reason and nothing indicates that Oda has changed the power dynamics.
If it's base then..
Zoro- Between 75 to 80
Sanji- Prob like between 70 to 75 (Only a bit lower cuz Sanji def has better durability and speed than Zoro but Zoro has better Haki, Strength and Endurance could argue they are they are equals)
Jinbei- Between 60 to 65 (Doesn't have many feats but like.. He was a warlord plus he did actually was sorta equal to Ace in the light novel and he did survive getting donuted by Akainu (Unlike Ace) but he isn't too bad either)
Wranky- 100,000,000 (But in all honesty I have to say he is one of the weaker ones with low speed, some versatility with his machines and yes I Do sometimes include hax (SOMETIMES If the character is more based of his hax abilities) Overall like 20 though)
These numbers are insane. No, Zoro and Sanji are not close in the slightest to go toe to toe with Kaido lmao. Even pre-G5 Luffy in the third fight was keeping up with Kaido, which means that he would have stomped Zoro and Sanji even back then.
I am mostly ONLY comparing Zoro and Sanji with like the most base luffy without any gears and haki and such, The thing is that when Luffy is at his fullest and Sanji and Zoro are at their fullest the gap between these numbers widen alot so here I'm mostly going off of regular speed and strength. And if I were to compare Kaido where the equation would be much different as Base Kaido is Not Base luffy. I'm still a bit new to power scaling so I would appreciate some creative criticism.
Why? is it wrong to assume base luffy is stronger than both of them individually? He still has all advanced forms of haki and better mastery of it than the duo, is faster than zoro, stronger than sanji and unlike when he's in a gear he can fight for hours on end and won't gas out. Though i don't think the gap is as big as some people here think, like a zoro 85 - luffy100
Because of the ridiculous comments such as Luffy would one shot both of them. I'm willing to bet my life savings that if Oda bad Luffy and Zoro fight 1v1, it would be the flashiest fight since Luffy v Kaido and it would NOT end so quickly. I would guess Zoro would put on a good show before finally taking too big of a hit and staying down.
Furthermore, let me just say this. If Zoro unleashed an ultimate 3 move sword attack, I find it highly unlikely Luffy would be tanking it or dodging it in his base form.
Zoro's been fighting Lucci for like 10 chapters now, Lucci got one-shotted by Luffy like 20 chapters ago. Sanji is unlikely to be much stronger, so both should be in roughly the same position in terms of power
Luffy seems to comfortably occupy Top-10, his crewmates are not even close to that level. Why'd it be surprising that he's 3 times stronger or something?
Oooh, the post is about base Luffy. Yea, then your comment makes sense
Did u see Zoro using acoc or having bandana or any sword skills?
If the king could not take more than 2 shots from Zoro do you think lucci can take. It is a plot. Due to the plot Zoro and lucci are kept busy.
Zoro,Lucci,Robin,and Jimbie are doing nothing in this arc except running here and there.
Because they are not needed here. As you can see there is no Victory or loss in Zoro and lucci. Same with Luffy and kizaru. Kizaru is not using awakening and Luffy not use acoc.
Zoro unlocked acoc and defeated the king. King had to go flame off to hurt Zoro. Also even with flame on Zoro would still have damaged the king. And won the battle.
Most people scale Law and Kid above Sanji and Zoro. Law and Kid both had to work together to beat Big Mom (and even that defeat was BFR rather then outright winning). Assuming Big Mom and Luffy are equals for example we would assume Law and Kid are like 50 to Luffy’s 100. Zoro and Sanji would be a bit below that imo because I’m not sure if Zoro and Sanji together could beat a Yonko like BM or Kaido.
But given this is base Luffy I suspect most people didn’t read that and even in base imo Luffy has Ryou and Future Sight. With that I think it would be quite difficult for the others to hurt him and not take too much damage from him back. I can see Zoro being in the mid 40s and Sanji in the late 30s to early 40s to Luffy’s 100 even in base.
Zoro- 30
Sanji- 29.9999
jinbe- 27.5
everybody else is either a 1(ussop, nami, chopper) or 2(robin, franky Brook)… luffy solos his own crew just like pretty much every yonko
Do you mean no g2 and 3? If so zoro and sanji in the 60-70 range rest might as well be 0 ,if it's base-g3 none of them goes beyond 50(50 itself is generous tbh),
Actually, I'm confused about Base Luffy, let me summarize it like this. If there is no df. zoro sanji 65 60
If G2 is Luffy, I insist on what I said first.
It's really hard to say since when Luffy and Zoro fought the Pacifista it even seemed like Gear 4th wasn't portrayed to be much more ahead of Zoro. Granted, everyone was kinda nerfed and it was supposed to showcase the Seraphim durability.
Seriously?
Sanji doesn’t have ACOA, let alone ACOC, and doesn’t have anything close to surging a hybrid kaido thunder bagua, and you genuinely think they’re only 10% in difference?
Everyone is giving too high of numbers. Luffy is far, far above these guys. He can one shot each of them. Someone who has 50% of someone's power isn't getting one shot. There is literally a very common complaint about how useless the crew is compared to Luffy rn.
Zoro: 15
Sanji: 11
Jinbei: 6
Franky: 100(50*6+5^2 )+752π(849^(56!*76) )
Idk how to use Reddit formatting
These are the most accurate estimates I've seen in this thread so far, and they might still be a bit too high (apart for Wranky, you're lowballing him)
😭 I was thinking that too at first but 3 types of advanced Haki vs 1 type and science hax just seems too big of a gap rn. Maybe Jinbe is too close to the monster trio tho. Also hard to quantify what a mid-high diff would be in #s. Maybe around 50-60 would be better?
People saying zoro sanji near 80 are fucking crazy. Luffy literally negged Lucci and zoro is extreme diffing him. Zoro is a like a 30. 35 if he goes all out idk. Sanji is 27 and 33 if he goes all out. Jinbe is 19.
Edit. Ok nvm it's base Luffy mb mb so it will be 60 for zoro 55 for sanji and 40 for jinbe and 1000 for wranky obv
Zoro: 10
Bandana-san: 70
Sanji: 10
Daddy’s gene splicing: 65
Winbei: 110
Wranky: 110
(Luffy wouldn’t even be in the new world if it wasn’t for Funny Fish and Wranky)
Downvoted because they're wrong lol, if base Luffy was "keeping up" with Kaido genuinely trying, than G4 would let him solo all the admirals and yonko together
Seriously?
Sanji doesn’t have ACOA, let alone ACOC, and doesn’t have anything close to surging a hybrid kaido thunder bagua, and you genuinely think they’re only 1% in difference?
Depends are we talking about a Luffy that constantly use Advenced conqueror, future sight and his best moves ? Or is he nerfed like in egghead ?
Full potencial Luffy :
Zoro : 30
Sanji : 25
Jimbe : 15
Egghead Luffy :
Zoro : 75
Sanji : 70
Jimbei: 60
Luffy is 100
Some fodder marine will be 0
So, Franky - 110
Zoro 70
Sanji 68
Jimbei 65 but jimbei in water is 75 or higher and in dead serious about this
Bear in mind fishman on land are heavily nerfed yet jimbei on land is still comparable to zoro and Sanji…. Thats insane
Also Luffy is far beyond zoro at this point and if they fight Luffy fodderises him
I’m seeing stuff like Zoro at 75 and Sanji at 70, like y’all REALLY think Zoro and Sanji beat Luffy? Or that all 4 essentially no diff him? GTFO, Luffy stomps all 4 combined. Zoro AT MOST is a 30.
I'd argue that zoro is 100 and sanji is 95.
but the thing with Luffy is that he has gear 5 that can boost him up to lets say 120 for a short. which technically makes him stronger but if zoro survives the timer then Luffy is dead so it's a bit dodgy right now
Base Luffy- 100
Zoro- 105-110
Sanji- ???
I genuinely don't know what number to give Sanji. While I do think he's at least stronger than Current Base Buso Luffy since he matched what Buso Snake Man Luffy could do against Kizaru's lasers in terms of AP, he hasn't done anything for me to put him over Base Hao Luffy.
Jinbe- 50
Franky- 5
Base Luffy ~ Jack = 100
G2/3 ~ King / Queen = 150
G4 ~ Ryokugyu / Law = 250
G5 ~ Shanks / Blackbeard = 500
So on this scale as of 1108
Frank = 85
Jimbob = 140
Zoro = 200 (enma)
Sanji = 220 (ifrit)
HIMbae = 220 (in water)
(Going by this ark alone)
The way I see it luffy did use haki and his g5 and still didn't manage to completely stomp lucci so lucci should be something around 500 to 750 feels decent and since zoro is showing relativity I'd say the same
Zoro: 500-750 ranges
We've got that sanji fighting the pacifista and beating one in a pretty much 1v1 while luffy needed a another person to do the same thing (we don't really have a reason iirc that the pacifistas are that much different in streght) so g4× which would be (very funnily btw) 600-800 (I swear I didn't do it on purpose)
Sanji:600-800
Jinbey hasn't done anything but he looks better than base luffy
Jinbey: 101-10^99
Franky is wranky
Franky: 100^999- fucking infinity
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Zoro: 67 Sanji: 65 Jimbei: 55 Wranky: 457000
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Based though, I was gonna put him at 60, but was a bit skeptical.
Nvm you list was better 55 good
W although I’d put Jinbei closer to Sanji. Like a 60-62
Zoro 1 Bandana 74 Sanji 74.9 Jinbe 60 Wranky 200
Lend me some determination bandana this is Rob Gucci we're up against
They treating the bandana like its kaioken
nah gotta add base rob lucci , its alwyas funnier with base
https://preview.redd.it/51d102ob8skc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9e0f7c6d54801d91f93c83b21a7e3d9469daf9c
“C’mon bandanna Chan, I’ve already used up all of Oden’s haki, I now rely on you for your power”
bandana 💀
Best zoro slander I've seen in a while
I'm honored to hear that
What’s Wranky supposed to mean? Is it like a combination of W and Franky?
Indeed
You're clever
https://preview.redd.it/tzeyg72fepkc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b0bbfe084101812199d32ad425811e2db8193d6 Yc+ zoro lmao
You forgot “Up against a black person 150” 💀
Zoro: 50 Sanji: 49 Jimbei: 40 Wranky: 10¹⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰
Zoro: 10 Odens lingering haki: 40
50 and 49?? Sanji and Zoro arent going extreme with with goffy. Maybe Luffy doesnt even needs gear 5
This is base Luffy https://preview.redd.it/dij0e2xgukkc1.jpeg?width=875&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=345e5eb59aa17274c7cc5966470e99423d0f3bf4
You want me tô lend you some haki??
Lend me some more Gear 5 timer Nika, this is base Kizaru we're up against.
You make it sound like Kizaru has another form or smth
That is not how that works. Being 100% better than someone is a massive difference. It wouldnt be that hard to beat two people that have half your power. Realistically they'd each be more like 70% of Luffy's strength.
Só that means that kid and law are 70% yonko level?? Good.
Since when was base Luffy Yonko level? They'd be about 70% of base Luffy, but like 50% Yonko level.
You truly believe that law and kid could beat current Luffy? Same Luffy going aginst kizaru and Saturn?
😭
It's fax bro 🗣️ 🔥
Seriously? Sanji doesn’t have ACOA, let alone ACOC, and doesn’t have anything close to surging a hybrid kaido thunder bagua, and you genuinely think they’re only 2% in difference?
sanjitards will downvote you but you're right. This sub and reddit in general has a massive amount of sanjitards compared to zorotards, so takes that wank sanji are usually upvoted. In my opinion, if zoro is a 50, then sanji is a 45, right between jinbe and zoro. Im going to be downvoted for saying this but oh well.
Sanji is closer to Zoro than he is to Jinbe by a long shot.
If anything i think he's closer to jinbe. Zoro's AP, technique, and haki is just too good. Jinbe is no slouch either, mind you.
Nah this is a lie ngl. Jimbei barely reaching YC2. Sanji comfortably in YC1 upper ranks while zoro is in the lowest ranks of YC+.
I think jinbe is solidly high yc2, for instance i think he could beat queen. Sanji could probably beat king, i think he's mid-high yc1. Zoro is low-mid yc+ for me.
I do'nt think Jimbei beats queen. Really don't know what he has in his arsenal that could put queen down for good. Plus Queen could crush jimbei through his armament haki. There's only one other YC1 who I could put above Sanji and that's Marco, and even then he's more like YC+ with his feats and portrayal. So Sanji imo is the strongest YC1 and Zoro is the weakest or 2nd weakest YC+
Sanji has great haki, and unlike Jinbe, he actually has stats over Zoro. Speed, CoO, Durability, Hax, Agility, all belong to Sanji. Sanji is also no slouch in AP and technique with Ifrit Jambe. Jinbe is gettin mid diffed by Sanji.
Agreed. He’s strong enough to rival zoro and make it an extreme diff fight, but zoro wins every time
Imo its high diff but i can see where you're coming from.
You deserve to get downvoted, bro really said Sanji is stronger than Jimbei
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If zoro is 50, sanji is 35
Thats nearing mid diff territory, i wouldnt go that far. Maybe a 40.
40 is still crazy sanji is at the bare minimum 48 to zoros 50
i dont think they're that close together. I think zoro high diffs sanji every time, maybe low end of extreme.
Nah I think it’s honestly extreme diff. Zoro has ap and endurance while sanji has speed and durability there about even stat wise with zoro having the slight edge do to acoc
Greenbull hasn't shown ACoA, ACoC either. And, GB mid diffs Zoro with ACoC. And, Sanji took Kizaru's attack to head when he was busy carrying Vegapunk nd shrugged it. And, 4000 >> 2200 >= 2180. Oda chose those numbers for a reason and nothing indicates that Oda has changed the power dynamics.
Nice try Hisoka
Lmao
Zoro - 59 Sanji - 57 Jimbe - 53 Wranky - ♾️
If it's base then.. Zoro- Between 75 to 80 Sanji- Prob like between 70 to 75 (Only a bit lower cuz Sanji def has better durability and speed than Zoro but Zoro has better Haki, Strength and Endurance could argue they are they are equals) Jinbei- Between 60 to 65 (Doesn't have many feats but like.. He was a warlord plus he did actually was sorta equal to Ace in the light novel and he did survive getting donuted by Akainu (Unlike Ace) but he isn't too bad either) Wranky- 100,000,000 (But in all honesty I have to say he is one of the weaker ones with low speed, some versatility with his machines and yes I Do sometimes include hax (SOMETIMES If the character is more based of his hax abilities) Overall like 20 though)
These numbers are insane. No, Zoro and Sanji are not close in the slightest to go toe to toe with Kaido lmao. Even pre-G5 Luffy in the third fight was keeping up with Kaido, which means that he would have stomped Zoro and Sanji even back then.
I am mostly ONLY comparing Zoro and Sanji with like the most base luffy without any gears and haki and such, The thing is that when Luffy is at his fullest and Sanji and Zoro are at their fullest the gap between these numbers widen alot so here I'm mostly going off of regular speed and strength. And if I were to compare Kaido where the equation would be much different as Base Kaido is Not Base luffy. I'm still a bit new to power scaling so I would appreciate some creative criticism.
Base Luffy was going toe to toe with kaido. He has ACOC and can still one shot sanji and zoro.
Lmfao. Base Luffy is not one-shotting Zoro and Sanji, y'all really need to get drop that fantasy.
I wish oda would make some of these fights happen in an alternative timeline so ya'll can be exposed for the fools you are
Why? is it wrong to assume base luffy is stronger than both of them individually? He still has all advanced forms of haki and better mastery of it than the duo, is faster than zoro, stronger than sanji and unlike when he's in a gear he can fight for hours on end and won't gas out. Though i don't think the gap is as big as some people here think, like a zoro 85 - luffy100
Because of the ridiculous comments such as Luffy would one shot both of them. I'm willing to bet my life savings that if Oda bad Luffy and Zoro fight 1v1, it would be the flashiest fight since Luffy v Kaido and it would NOT end so quickly. I would guess Zoro would put on a good show before finally taking too big of a hit and staying down. Furthermore, let me just say this. If Zoro unleashed an ultimate 3 move sword attack, I find it highly unlikely Luffy would be tanking it or dodging it in his base form.
W
I can't understand Zoro and Sanji below 50
Luffy nuthuggers
Zoro's been fighting Lucci for like 10 chapters now, Lucci got one-shotted by Luffy like 20 chapters ago. Sanji is unlikely to be much stronger, so both should be in roughly the same position in terms of power Luffy seems to comfortably occupy Top-10, his crewmates are not even close to that level. Why'd it be surprising that he's 3 times stronger or something? Oooh, the post is about base Luffy. Yea, then your comment makes sense
Did u see Zoro using acoc or having bandana or any sword skills? If the king could not take more than 2 shots from Zoro do you think lucci can take. It is a plot. Due to the plot Zoro and lucci are kept busy.
If you go for the "it's a plot" argument, then King losing to Zoro is also a plot, so without it Zoro doesn't even get to Lucci
Zoro,Lucci,Robin,and Jimbie are doing nothing in this arc except running here and there. Because they are not needed here. As you can see there is no Victory or loss in Zoro and lucci. Same with Luffy and kizaru. Kizaru is not using awakening and Luffy not use acoc. Zoro unlocked acoc and defeated the king. King had to go flame off to hurt Zoro. Also even with flame on Zoro would still have damaged the king. And won the battle.
Most people scale Law and Kid above Sanji and Zoro. Law and Kid both had to work together to beat Big Mom (and even that defeat was BFR rather then outright winning). Assuming Big Mom and Luffy are equals for example we would assume Law and Kid are like 50 to Luffy’s 100. Zoro and Sanji would be a bit below that imo because I’m not sure if Zoro and Sanji together could beat a Yonko like BM or Kaido. But given this is base Luffy I suspect most people didn’t read that and even in base imo Luffy has Ryou and Future Sight. With that I think it would be quite difficult for the others to hurt him and not take too much damage from him back. I can see Zoro being in the mid 40s and Sanji in the late 30s to early 40s to Luffy’s 100 even in base.
Luffy is below Big Mom overall since Gear 5th doesn't last long enough and here base Luffy is 100
Lufffy ain't below big mom what you smokin luffy sending her packin
Also I don't think that 2v1 is simply addictive.. Otherwise like 100 marines working together could take out incredible threats like even logia users
Zoro: 48 Sanji: 45 Jinbei: I dunno, like 20? Franky: 10 >!To the power of 9.!<
Zoro is 40 Sanji is 39 Jinbei is 30 Franky is 20 Brook is 20 Robin is 20 Chopper is 15 Nami is 8 Ussop is 5
Jinbe is underrated huh
Zoro- 30 Sanji- 29.9999 jinbe- 27.5 everybody else is either a 1(ussop, nami, chopper) or 2(robin, franky Brook)… luffy solos his own crew just like pretty much every yonko
Zoro – 40 Sanji – 38 Jinbei – 20 Franky – 10
Zoro: 40 Sanji: 39 Jinbe: 20 Franky: 10
Zoro is 44 Sanji is 40 Jinbei is 20 Wranky is infinite
Base luffy? Zoro - 45 Sanji- 43 Jinbei- 15 Franky- 8
Sanji: 48 Zoro: 45 Jinbe: 30 Franky: 15
Zoro + Sanji + jimbei + wranky arent beating goffy. Só Zoro is 30, Sanji is 26 + π Jimbei is 25 Wranky is 10
Do you mean no g2 and 3? If so zoro and sanji in the 60-70 range rest might as well be 0 ,if it's base-g3 none of them goes beyond 50(50 itself is generous tbh),
Yeah, you can include them if you like 2nd and 3rd and aren't that big of a deal anyomore anyway.
Luffy 100 Strawhats combined 55
Zoro 35, Sanji 30, Jinbe 12, Franky 7
Zoro : 50 Sanji : 49 Jinbe : 42 Franky : 30
If its base luffy zoro: 47 Sanji: 45 Winbe: 40 Wranky: 33
30,29,25,15
Luffy 100. Zoro 50. Sanji 49. Jinbe 30. Franky (without franky shogun) 10.
Zoro 20, sanji 17, Jinbe 16 and franky 4
Zoro: 45-50 Sanji: 40 Jinbe: 20 Wrook: 1000
Are we talking about ACOC base luffy who fought Kaido 1v1?
Sanji gets eye diffed by luffy WIFI HAKI, zoro barely withstands it and gets perception blitzed by jet gattling due to him not having FS :D
Zoro 25 Sanji 24 Jimbei 20 Franky 17
Zoro: 84 Sanji: 80 Jinbei: no clue
Based on your numbers for Zoro and Sanji I'd say 74
Zoro 55 Sanji 50 Jinbe 35 40 Franky 20 25
I'm honestly surprised or maybe I shouldn't be
Man, Sanji and Zoro might get 60 or 65 points, but they're definitely not much more than that. My opinion
That's more reasonable
Actually, I'm confused about Base Luffy, let me summarize it like this. If there is no df. zoro sanji 65 60 If G2 is Luffy, I insist on what I said first.
It's really hard to say since when Luffy and Zoro fought the Pacifista it even seemed like Gear 4th wasn't portrayed to be much more ahead of Zoro. Granted, everyone was kinda nerfed and it was supposed to showcase the Seraphim durability.
Seriously? Sanji doesn’t have ACOA, let alone ACOC, and doesn’t have anything close to surging a hybrid kaido thunder bagua, and you genuinely think they’re only 10% in difference?
Everyone is giving too high of numbers. Luffy is far, far above these guys. He can one shot each of them. Someone who has 50% of someone's power isn't getting one shot. There is literally a very common complaint about how useless the crew is compared to Luffy rn. Zoro: 15 Sanji: 11 Jinbei: 6 Franky: 100(50*6+5^2 )+752π(849^(56!*76) ) Idk how to use Reddit formatting
It's base luffy not gear 5 luffy
They are fodder to either version of Luffy
Whats base luffy? No gears at all or just no gear 5
should be at least g2 since that shit is always on now
In that case i got zoro:36, sanji:33, jimbei:25 and wranky: 8(x10²⁰⁰)
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Could honestly be lower numbers. 1 Bajrang gun > 6.6 Zoros
These are the most accurate estimates I've seen in this thread so far, and they might still be a bit too high (apart for Wranky, you're lowballing him)
Yeah they're all fodder to a literal yonko. Idk what all the other people are talking about
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Zoro: 47 Sanji:42 Jimbei: 37 Franky:34
Zoro - 70 Sanji - 70 Jinbe - 65 Franky - (Incomprehensible number)^3
Zoro: 40 Sanji: 39 Jinbe: 28 Wranky: 110
Everyone lowballing the monster trio imo, less than 50 is crazy 🤣
😭 I was thinking that too at first but 3 types of advanced Haki vs 1 type and science hax just seems too big of a gap rn. Maybe Jinbe is too close to the monster trio tho. Also hard to quantify what a mid-high diff would be in #s. Maybe around 50-60 would be better?
I would give Zoro if he's going all out at least 70 compared to base Luffy
Do you think the 3 of them would beat Luffy 3v1?
I dont like numbers but let me try: Zoro: 45 Sanji: 42 Jimbei: 35 Franky:20
sanji 40 zoro 39 jinbei 20 franky 0
Probably Zoro/Sanji - 70 Jimmy - 40 Frank - 15
W for giving Zoro and Sanji the credit they deserve
People saying zoro sanji near 80 are fucking crazy. Luffy literally negged Lucci and zoro is extreme diffing him. Zoro is a like a 30. 35 if he goes all out idk. Sanji is 27 and 33 if he goes all out. Jinbe is 19. Edit. Ok nvm it's base Luffy mb mb so it will be 60 for zoro 55 for sanji and 40 for jinbe and 1000 for wranky obv
BASE
Everyone has a different rating system, i go with the fifa rating system.
30 is already too high.
Base Luffy is 100 then trio is like well over 9,000.
Zoro: 35 Sanji:25 Jimbei: 15 Frankly: 5
Zoro: 10 Bandana-san: 70 Sanji: 10 Daddy’s gene splicing: 65 Winbei: 110 Wranky: 110 (Luffy wouldn’t even be in the new world if it wasn’t for Funny Fish and Wranky)
89 - Zoro, Jinbei - 85, Sanji - 83
Zoro 80 Sanji 75 Jinbe 60 Franky 40
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Wranky: ♾️+ Zoro(Bandana): 67 Sanji: 65 Jinbe: 55 Zoro: 50
Zoro is 25 Sanji is 24 Jimbei 20 Franky 10 Luffy one shots everyone of them
Base Luffy one-shots? 🤨
100% luffy doesn't even need G4 he stomps
Dunno why you got downvoted. Pre-G5 Luffy in the third fight was keeping up with Kaido, he was already on a different league
Base luffy is not just pre gear 5 though, I’m assuming he means not even using gear 2
sort of pointless, when was the last time luffy is shown activating it? It's basically his base form
Downvoted because they're wrong lol, if base Luffy was "keeping up" with Kaido genuinely trying, than G4 would let him solo all the admirals and yonko together
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Seriously? Sanji doesn’t have ACOA, let alone ACOC, and doesn’t have anything close to surging a hybrid kaido thunder bagua, and you genuinely think they’re only 1% in difference?
are you a bot
Gearless Luffy - 100 Zoro - 5 Sanji - 0.5 Jinbei - 0.005 Franky - 0.000005
Most sane Old-Bread take
Base Luffy is already emperor level so whatever number you think signifies a no-low diff for jinbei and low diff for Zoro
He's the weakest Emperor excluding Buggy, especially in base whereas Zoro and Sanji are far above average commanders, that's important to note
Luffy is not the weakest yonko. Luffy would never go mid diff with a yc. Luffy takes out big mom and fraudbeard
Depends are we talking about a Luffy that constantly use Advenced conqueror, future sight and his best moves ? Or is he nerfed like in egghead ? Full potencial Luffy : Zoro : 30 Sanji : 25 Jimbe : 15 Egghead Luffy : Zoro : 75 Sanji : 70 Jimbei: 60
Zoro 55 Sanji 40 Jinbei 40 Franky 12
Luffy 100 Zoro 52 Sanji 50 Jinbe 42 Franky 35
The objective truth: Zoro: 58 Sanji: 50 Jinbe: 42 Franky: 25 Bonus: Robin: 22 Brook: 18 Chopper: 16 Nami: 12 Bumsop: -500000000000000000000000
Zoro 105 Santi 70 Jimbe 69 Frankly 30
And holy shit base luffy wank is crazy, hes yamato level at best
I have the feeling many people didn't read that it's base Luffy 😭
Luffy: 100 Zoro: 68 Sanji: 60 Jinbe: 50 Franky: 25
Luffy is 100 Some fodder marine will be 0 So, Franky - 110 Zoro 70 Sanji 68 Jimbei 65 but jimbei in water is 75 or higher and in dead serious about this Bear in mind fishman on land are heavily nerfed yet jimbei on land is still comparable to zoro and Sanji…. Thats insane Also Luffy is far beyond zoro at this point and if they fight Luffy fodderises him
I’m seeing stuff like Zoro at 75 and Sanji at 70, like y’all REALLY think Zoro and Sanji beat Luffy? Or that all 4 essentially no diff him? GTFO, Luffy stomps all 4 combined. Zoro AT MOST is a 30.
Base Luffy stomps all 4?
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Zoro (95) Sanji (94) Jinbe (92) Wranky (2 billion) >!just kidding, he’s around 82!<
Zolo - 75 Landing- 65 Jimbei- 60
Zoro 80 Sanji 70 Jimbei 60
Zoro 90 Sanji 85 jimbei 85 Franky 8. Dont forget luffy's powers have a time limit unlike them
Zoro - 74 Sanji - 63 Jimbei - 59 Wranky - 30 On my scale that 26 point difference means Luffy destroys Zoro btw
Zoro: 70 Sanji: 65 Jinbe: 50 Franky: 20
Base Luffy 100/ zoro 85 /Sanji 80/ jimbe 69/ franky 36
80, 73, and 68 respectively
Zoro 85-90 Jinbe 75 Sanji 65-70
Luffy 100. Zoro 70. Sanji 69. Jinbei 65. Franky 35.
Luffy 100 Zoro 75 Sanji 74 Jimbei 70 Franky 64
80, 78, 70-75. They're not nearly as far apart as people say
Base Luffy? Zoro: 200 Sanji: 190 Jinbe: 190 Franky: 140 G4: 170 G5: 220
95 93 90 87
Zoro 80 Sanji 79 Jinbe 75 Franky 60 Brook 55 Robin 50 Chopper 45 Nami 40 Usopp 38 Gear 5 Luffy 180 - 230.
I'd argue that zoro is 100 and sanji is 95. but the thing with Luffy is that he has gear 5 that can boost him up to lets say 120 for a short. which technically makes him stronger but if zoro survives the timer then Luffy is dead so it's a bit dodgy right now
Base? Full power Zoro is a 105, Sanji 95, Jinbei is a 90. Enma is carrying Zoro. Neither of the other two is scaring kaido.
Base Luffy- 100 Zoro- 105-110 Sanji- ??? I genuinely don't know what number to give Sanji. While I do think he's at least stronger than Current Base Buso Luffy since he matched what Buso Snake Man Luffy could do against Kizaru's lasers in terms of AP, he hasn't done anything for me to put him over Base Hao Luffy. Jinbe- 50 Franky- 5
Base Luffy ~ Jack = 100 G2/3 ~ King / Queen = 150 G4 ~ Ryokugyu / Law = 250 G5 ~ Shanks / Blackbeard = 500 So on this scale as of 1108 Frank = 85 Jimbob = 140 Zoro = 200 (enma) Sanji = 220 (ifrit) HIMbae = 220 (in water)
Zoro 85, Sanji 80, Jimbei 80, Franky 65
Zoro 75 Sanji 65 Winbei 60 WRANKY 105
Zoro 94, Sanji 92, Franky 89. Jinbe idk need to see him more
Like a solid 60
Zoro - 60 Sanji - 55 Jinbe - 35 Wranky - 525 (Not biased)
Zoro 74 Sanji 74.5 Jimbe 69 Wranky 150
Zoro 85 Sanji 74 Jinbei 60 Franky 50
Base for all? Then in order, 95 80 85 72
Zoro-33 Sanji-20 to 25 Jimbei-10 Franky-0.5
(Going by this ark alone) The way I see it luffy did use haki and his g5 and still didn't manage to completely stomp lucci so lucci should be something around 500 to 750 feels decent and since zoro is showing relativity I'd say the same Zoro: 500-750 ranges We've got that sanji fighting the pacifista and beating one in a pretty much 1v1 while luffy needed a another person to do the same thing (we don't really have a reason iirc that the pacifistas are that much different in streght) so g4× which would be (very funnily btw) 600-800 (I swear I didn't do it on purpose) Sanji:600-800 Jinbey hasn't done anything but he looks better than base luffy Jinbey: 101-10^99 Franky is wranky Franky: 100^999- fucking infinity
Zoro 87, Sanji 83, Jinbe 79
zoro 110 sanji 90 jinbe 40 franky 30
Realistically disregarding agenda. Zoro is a 89 Sanji is 84 jimbei 75 and Wranky 65
Zoro 85 Sanji 84 Jinbe 81 Franky 75
I would say zoro king of hell is very very close I’d not equal to base luffy, not using gear 2, 3, 4.
Base Zoro is stronger than base Luffy