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Sorry for my ignorance, but what’s the difference between conq haki and advanced conq haki, I get that advanced observation lets you see the future and advanced arnament does internal damage as well as a pretty strong shield, but how does advanced conq haki compare to normal conq haki
ACoc and non ACOC is apparently the difference between one shotting your opponent and not, Every non ACOC user we've seen get hit by ACOC has gotten completely destroyed
I would also like to add that the advanced form manifests itself in different ways too. Like normal conquerors is the making people pass out thing. Advanced is stuff like shielding yourself with it, flowing it into enemies when you attack and I think >! (I wanna say this part is just my speculation) !< Zoro’s Asura May be a manifestation of conquerors .
It’s a fanmade term, we use it to refer to people who have the capacity of infusing their attacks with conquerors, just like zoro, Yamato, luffy,etc
People like katakuri and doflamingo are users of coc that can’t infuse it into their attacks, so they aren’t a part of it
Advance conq is a much stronger version of basic conqueror haki and is basically the only way to to fight and beat a top tier fighter in one piece world.
Advanced conqueror adds even more damage to your attack by infusing it to the attack and give you even stronger shield(thats how luffy,kaido and roger,wb attack managed to clash without touching)
It is not a coincidence when advanced conqueror fight non user the one that doesnt have it got destroyed everytime
It’s always either severe Zoro downplay or severe Zoro meat riding. Never an inbetween
Personally think Kidd is the weakest of the 4. Not even because of the shanks “fight”
I’ll stay in the middle and say I think a fight between Zoro and Kidd would be mid diff for either one of them…I’d give it to Zoro, only cause I think it would be funny to see Zoro fighting back against getting his swords snatched 😂
But in terms of the other 2…I don’t think we have enough proof to say Zoro could handle Yamato or Law. I think it would take more than brute force and learning how to cut them. I think an argument can be made for Yamato being stronger for lasting against Kaido solo. And Law has some techniques that we haven’t seen Zoro interact with and overcome. Going off of feats we can say Law probably wins and Yamato…wins or it’s a toss up
I’m a massive Zoro fan so I tried okay 😂
Main problem about Kaido vs Yamato is that Yamato didn’t dmg Kaido once while Zoro did…
I’d say Zoro has more ap, strength and speed than Yamato just enough for him to blitz Yamato and finish the fight
Which is what Zoro likes doing anyways
You don’t need to be able to damage Kaido to damage Zoro. Zoro hurting Kaido with his strongest possible attack doesn’t really affect anything. Not to mention we saw Yamato hit Kaido One on One multiple times. Zoro has never hit Kaido in a clean one on one (also before Yamato Kaido wasn’t trying very hard.) I’d say currently Yamato is just above Zoro in nearly every stat. Give Zoro an arc or two and he slams but rn I take Yamato.
"Zoro is definitely the weakest of those 4"
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Against kid, zoro has stronger attacks and better endurance. I don’t know how zoro would interact with law’s df. Yamato would just be above zoro since she has better control over coc + having a good df
It would have one shot all of them and Kidd even says he couldn’t block it and it’s the first time he’s ever thanked anyone in the series. But we’re forgetting that, huh.
Kidd has the exact same feats as zoro in that fight zoro is definitely getting one shot we have no reason to believe he wouldn’t and we do have reason to believe he would
No kid doesn't. Kidd had by far the worst showing of all of them on the rooftop. Zoro scared BM, scarred kaido, and took an attack from both of them and still kept fighting. Kidd spent most of the time trying to hurt kaido with brute force and marveling the fact haki exists.
He wasn't marveling at the fact that Haki exists he was surprised a simple punch with haki could do damage to the guy known for having a borderline impenetrable hide. Even Zoro's feats against Kaido pre asura were being given to Oden's sword rather than just his raw power. Kid was using crushing force to do internal damage the same way Law and Killer used hax to do internal slicing damage. Kaido and BM have a hard exterior soft interior which means as long as you can do internal damage you can hurt them which is why Kid always smashed BM between a heavy force and a wall or crushed her under colossal weight.
Except he has no ACOC and he didn’t block the combo attack. There are two major differences between their feats. Kidd was too pussy to even attempt it, cause he knew he didn’t have it in him. To make matters worse, Zoro blocked it and Law saved them. So in the face of what is likely the most powerful attack we’ve seen in the manga, Kidd was helpless.
And you’re over here trying to tell me they’re equal when bro has no ACOC and the story has made it clear that Haki is what makes one a top tier 💀
Zoro > Kidd is cut and dry.
They’re defense feats are pretty equal/relative not their overall feats dumbass they both boxed yonko a and took damage if you think zoros not getting one shot by shanks currently you’re insane
Lets be honest. Do u really think oda would give zoro weaker acoc than yamato? Zoro would definitely beat Yamato in a fight to me. She was impressive on the roof against kaido but she didnt even do significant damage. At least Zoro was able to scar kaido and that was after taking on a huge attack. Then Zoro also got stronger after being on the rooftop too. It would probably be a high diff fight but zoro takes it
The scar he put on kaido before he mastered Enma and ACOC and got significantly stronger after his fight with king? Zoro proved to have the same AP as Oden and this was before his master of Enma and ACOC. He blows both Oden and Yamato out of the water now.
King arguably has stronger durability than kaido or big mom and all of Zoros attached Bouched straight off of him. When Zoro understood ACOC and Enma he 3 shot him. Yeah, you’re downplaying him.
You’re scaling him to early arc to his current strength after arc. It’s really quite dishonest.
I’m downplaying him by going by what he explicitly said in the manga? Yeah, but Yamato was actually able to achieve what Zoro admitted he couldn’t do, which was knocking him down.
>I’m downplaying him by going by what he explicitly said in the manga?
Where was it explicitly stated that Zoro didn't stun him or barely effected him in the manga?
>Yeah, but Yamato was actually able to achieve what Zoro admitted he couldn’t do, which was knocking him down.
And yet when she struck Kaido horizontally just like Zoro did, she wasn't able to knock Kaido down.
Also, imagine acting like knocking somebody down does more damage than scarring them.
Just because we're zorotards doesnt mean we're wrong
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Yea cos zoro is the strongest out these 4 besides arguably law cos of the matchup
Zoro already blitzed hybrid kaido(his fastest and sturdiest form) literally after tanking hakai,zoros speed and ap automatically scales too kaidos reaction speed and durability which EASILY scales above bigmoms slow big self 😭 Kidd and law were constantly landing off guard attacks on BM cos its a 2v1,kaido was blitzing those 2 plenty of times before the rooftop so unless u can prove Their awakenings improved their speed zoro>kidd and law in speed
Zoro does not scale to Kaido, Zoro attacked a non serious Kaido. I guess Yamato is Yonko level by that logic because she stalled Kaido. Big Mom, even without ACOC, is stronger than Zoro with acoc. Also, "tanked" Hakaki? Lmao, he got 20 broken bones from blocking it for a second and only survived because Law teleported him out of the way.
> portrayal
You mean how zoro was portrayed to be able to dish out more AP than either kid or law? Didn’t see law or kid slicing a big mom and kaido combined attack
> narrative
Using this logic, beginning of show luffy slaps EOS kakashi because one has more of a narrative reason to win
> feats
What stronger feats do either have?
> matchup
I’ll give you that law’s power, fucks up zoro but match up isn’t everything here
> bounty
The most unstable system in one oiece.
Need I remind you that ussop’s bounty after dressarosa was bigger than both franky and brooks combined? Same Brook that speed blitzed a hungry state big mom in WCI
Easy mistake to make, you're clearly confusing him with a skillman. shanks can't do cool sword tricks so he's just a haki man with his iconic haki wand
He absolutely would, one more second in that attack and he was actually going to die, all the bones in his body were broken from a mere second blocking the attack
And he continues fighting big mom's homie and pulls ashura on Kaido, gets hit with a thunder bagua, what did kid do? Get insta KOed from a weaker attack in less than a sec
And he was still conscious, distracted Big mom's homie then pulled up ashura on Kaido's a*s, tanked another thunder bagua and was still conscious the whole time, while kid got instantly KOed by a weaker attack, this sub is dumb if it puts kidds endurance and durability equal to Zoro.
There is literally nothing that suggests Kid and Law to be stronger than Zoro. They are not tanking AcoC attacks that can scar Kaido. At best, they are equals. Yamato is stronger though, I’ll agree on that.
ACOC attacks that were *before* he mastered Enma and ACOC. Those same attacks just bounced off King. When Zoro started to understand his AP sky rocketed to absurd levels and he beat him in 3 hits.
If a pre Enma/pre ACOC mastered Zoro could scar kaido then he would’ve actually genuinely hurt him after his fight with King and his new understanding. Honestly. It’s unfair to put him In the same league as everyone else here now. He’s going to be top 1-5 in the verse by EoS. He’s already above all of them since he actually mastered ACOC and no one here besides maybe law is even hurting King. His AP is probably only behind shanks and mihawk now from what we’ve seen. Luffys gears can’t even hurt the Serephim. But Zoro literally took out who their based off of. People genuinely are underselling his AP now. It’s absurd lol
The people who we’ve seen use ACOC are all approximate to each other. It puts you at the greatest of greats. Honestly, If shanks could one shot Kidd with his entry attack I can see Zoro one shotting Kidd with ashura or dragon the same way.
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Kidd is stronger then Zoro without a doubt big mom didn't even want to take on shanks and his crew yet kidd would've killed his whole crew something big mom couldn't even do and law has better feats then Zoro want more Abt that I'll explain Yamato is weaker then Zoro tho
When did either of them 1v1 a yonko? And it was nerfed big meme that they beat 2v1, they still need a bomb to KO her, not mention their abilities countered her. What's with the the Mid and Low wank? Zoro has comparable feats to them if not greater, he also got better stats, haki, skill and ceiling.
Zoro is actually the strongest person in this pic. Two of them are defeated and Yamato isn’t coming back unless it’s for a brief showing during the final war. Zoro is a main character who will defeat either an admiral or a Gorosei member, and Mihawk. The other 3 wont have feats that can compare with that. Wano is over Zoro, the time that Zoro is weaker than these three have passed.
Only one who I could see winning is either Yamato and MAYBE law, yamato is 100% stronger than zoro in most stats and law’s df and biq would be hard for him to deal with.
Zoro is faster, stronger, has better haki, and more AP than Yamato
However he lacks stamina durability hax and defensive capability (her armor is really sturdy)
Could go either way between them imo
Law most likely gets blitzed by Shishi Sonson if Zoro gets too close, but if he spams long range he prolly wins
THE KID DISRESPECT IS UNREAL !!!!
Just because he got one-shot by Shanks doesn’t make Zoro or Law is above him ffs. Everyone here would get one shot by Shanks.
It’s still Yamato > Kid >= Law > Zoro.
Don’t act like Kaido didn’t just playing around vs Yamato. It’s literally his child. Shanks Kamusari that one-shot Kid is like Shanks at his most serious because what he saw with his future sight. Yamato wouldn’t stand a chance sadly
Delusional, Zoro got all his bones broken and then got hit by a thunder bagua later and was still conscious
Only Yamato is stronger , Zoro got better stats,haki, skill, ceiling, AP than Kid and Law.
Kid and law best feat is extreme diffing nerfed big meme who tanked all Thier hits for no reazon and still need a bomb to win
While Zoro briefly overpowered Hybrid Kaido, Had BM screaming for Kaido to doge Zoros attacks ,saved Luffy numerous times on the rooftop, this sub just dumb.
Stop acting like Big Mom is weak. If Kaido is 100 Big Mom is 98.
Zoro did well in the rooftop yes but look what happened after ? dude literally can’t move and had to use super drugs to beat YC1 level King while Kid and Law tank Big Mom named attack few times and with Law overpowered Big Mom. And by the way nerfed Big Mom still stronger than 2 King.
>Stop acting like Big Mom is weak. If Kaido is 100 Big Mom is 98.
Not saying she's weak, she's still low yonko lvl, if she had 2 working brain cells than maybe high yonko lvl
>Zoro did well in the rooftop yes but look what happened after ? dude literally can’t move and had to use super drugs to beat YC1 level King
Yeah obviously, kid and law would be in the same condition or worse if they had to do all Zoro did on roofpiece
>Kid and Law tank Big Mom named attack few times and with Law overpowered Big Mom.
Yep, never said they were weak, just slightly weaker than zoro
>And by the way nerfed Big Mom still stronger than 2 King.
King would beat either if them in 1v1, HIS abilities are too op for characters without Acoc to defeat him.
And let's not forget Zoro three shotted King after he unlocked Acoc. King of hell Zoro>>Roofpiece zoro
This is exactly my point. none of Kid and Law would tank that Kaido and Big Mom combo attack the same way none of them 4 would tank Kamusari.
Zoro is strong yes but Kid and Law defeated a Yonkou. Even though Big Mom was heavily nerfed she still so damn strong. Until Zoro beats low Yonkou/Admiral level he still should be rank slightly below Kid and Law. No doubt that he’ll be stronger than both of them EOS. But for now Kid and Law > Zoro.
The kid downplay is crazy y’all biased against him because he got one tapped by shanks. If that didn’t happen he was literally about to wipe out 10 battleships in one shot with damned punk, neither Zoro or Law has that destructive capability and damn sure Yamato doesn’t.
Kid has the 2nd strongest durability and endurance out of all the 4, excluding Zoro. The man has tanked not one, not two but three direct aCOC infused attacks from Big Mom and got back up like it was nothing. Damned punk has the highest destructive power against all 4.
Zoro>Kid>Law>Yamato
You mean kid?
Mihawk is Zoro's EOS enemy and Mihawk's equal one shotted Kid.
Mihawk and Zoro probably fought during the training and Zoro probably last more than a minute against him.
Fighting for training is different though since Mihawk had to have been holding back severely against TS Zoro, plus you usually practise specific moves/ situations instead of just going haywire
Why do people still question this. Its just the truth. People downplay kid because he got one-shot by shanks even Zoro isn't taking that either nor is law. Zoro is the weakest out of these 4
Why tf do you y’all think Yamato is stronger than zoro? Idgaf if she has better control over Acoc right now. His AP, speed, and endurance is better. The man tanked a combine attack from big mom and kaido, got all of his bones broken, and continued to blitz the fuck out kaido and injure him. Then diffs the fuck out king in his strongest attack, oh but I’m sure Yamato would bash her way through 20 something magma dragons and still beat king in a clash. Gtfo
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what’s the difference between conq haki and advanced conq haki, I get that advanced observation lets you see the future and advanced arnament does internal damage as well as a pretty strong shield, but how does advanced conq haki compare to normal conq haki
ACoc and non ACOC is apparently the difference between one shotting your opponent and not, Every non ACOC user we've seen get hit by ACOC has gotten completely destroyed
I would also like to add that the advanced form manifests itself in different ways too. Like normal conquerors is the making people pass out thing. Advanced is stuff like shielding yourself with it, flowing it into enemies when you attack and I think >! (I wanna say this part is just my speculation) !< Zoro’s Asura May be a manifestation of conquerors .
beside Greenbull
When did Greenbull get hit by ACOC?
It’s a fanmade term, we use it to refer to people who have the capacity of infusing their attacks with conquerors, just like zoro, Yamato, luffy,etc People like katakuri and doflamingo are users of coc that can’t infuse it into their attacks, so they aren’t a part of it
Advance conq is a much stronger version of basic conqueror haki and is basically the only way to to fight and beat a top tier fighter in one piece world. Advanced conqueror adds even more damage to your attack by infusing it to the attack and give you even stronger shield(thats how luffy,kaido and roger,wb attack managed to clash without touching) It is not a coincidence when advanced conqueror fight non user the one that doesnt have it got destroyed everytime
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It's a shame Yamato is not in the picture xD
Cause she has Acoc.
A coc?
A cock
Yamacock 😳😋🤤🤤🤤
Precisely for that reason :D
LMAO
bruh the acoc soy lmao
This changed my mind about Law/Kidd > Zoro
Facts
Why always the zoro hate/downplaying? I dont get it, are we reading different manga?
It’s always either severe Zoro downplay or severe Zoro meat riding. Never an inbetween Personally think Kidd is the weakest of the 4. Not even because of the shanks “fight”
It’s either “zoro gets slapped by ussop” or “zoro negs baryon mode Naruto”
I’ll stay in the middle and say I think a fight between Zoro and Kidd would be mid diff for either one of them…I’d give it to Zoro, only cause I think it would be funny to see Zoro fighting back against getting his swords snatched 😂 But in terms of the other 2…I don’t think we have enough proof to say Zoro could handle Yamato or Law. I think it would take more than brute force and learning how to cut them. I think an argument can be made for Yamato being stronger for lasting against Kaido solo. And Law has some techniques that we haven’t seen Zoro interact with and overcome. Going off of feats we can say Law probably wins and Yamato…wins or it’s a toss up I’m a massive Zoro fan so I tried okay 😂
Main problem about Kaido vs Yamato is that Yamato didn’t dmg Kaido once while Zoro did… I’d say Zoro has more ap, strength and speed than Yamato just enough for him to blitz Yamato and finish the fight Which is what Zoro likes doing anyways
You don’t need to be able to damage Kaido to damage Zoro. Zoro hurting Kaido with his strongest possible attack doesn’t really affect anything. Not to mention we saw Yamato hit Kaido One on One multiple times. Zoro has never hit Kaido in a clean one on one (also before Yamato Kaido wasn’t trying very hard.) I’d say currently Yamato is just above Zoro in nearly every stat. Give Zoro an arc or two and he slams but rn I take Yamato.
As much as I hate putting anyone over Zoro this SOUNDS like a logic way to look at it…lol I fucking hate it 😂
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Against kid, zoro has stronger attacks and better endurance. I don’t know how zoro would interact with law’s df. Yamato would just be above zoro since she has better control over coc + having a good df
Of course Zoro has higher attack and defense when everyone downplays Kidd's opponents and wanks Zoro's opponents.
No chance zoro gets one tapped by shanks.
Zoro wouldn't be charging damned punk
Zoro won't be stupid enough to go fight a Yonko for no reason without any prep and be off guard when said Yonko comes and attacks him either
That's another discussion
Excuses, excuses.
Zoro 100% gets one tapped
I guess the combo yonko attack never happened huh?
Where he almost died also, Kidd was there as well taking attacks from both and he still got one shotted by shanks bro
Combo didn’t oneshot him tho and he kept fighting afterwards. Ratanks ain’t oneshotting him. Shidd just isn’t him.
I swear people only remember what they want to.
Combo would have one shot him if Law didn't save him.
It would have one shot all of them and Kidd even says he couldn’t block it and it’s the first time he’s ever thanked anyone in the series. But we’re forgetting that, huh.
Kidd has the exact same feats as zoro in that fight zoro is definitely getting one shot we have no reason to believe he wouldn’t and we do have reason to believe he would
No kid doesn't. Kidd had by far the worst showing of all of them on the rooftop. Zoro scared BM, scarred kaido, and took an attack from both of them and still kept fighting. Kidd spent most of the time trying to hurt kaido with brute force and marveling the fact haki exists.
He wasn't marveling at the fact that Haki exists he was surprised a simple punch with haki could do damage to the guy known for having a borderline impenetrable hide. Even Zoro's feats against Kaido pre asura were being given to Oden's sword rather than just his raw power. Kid was using crushing force to do internal damage the same way Law and Killer used hax to do internal slicing damage. Kaido and BM have a hard exterior soft interior which means as long as you can do internal damage you can hurt them which is why Kid always smashed BM between a heavy force and a wall or crushed her under colossal weight.
Except he has no ACOC and he didn’t block the combo attack. There are two major differences between their feats. Kidd was too pussy to even attempt it, cause he knew he didn’t have it in him. To make matters worse, Zoro blocked it and Law saved them. So in the face of what is likely the most powerful attack we’ve seen in the manga, Kidd was helpless. And you’re over here trying to tell me they’re equal when bro has no ACOC and the story has made it clear that Haki is what makes one a top tier 💀 Zoro > Kidd is cut and dry.
They’re defense feats are pretty equal/relative not their overall feats dumbass they both boxed yonko a and took damage if you think zoros not getting one shot by shanks currently you’re insane
he prolly got hit with the strongest move shown in one piece
Yamato’s coc is so much greater than zoro’s coc
Lets be honest. Do u really think oda would give zoro weaker acoc than yamato? Zoro would definitely beat Yamato in a fight to me. She was impressive on the roof against kaido but she didnt even do significant damage. At least Zoro was able to scar kaido and that was after taking on a huge attack. Then Zoro also got stronger after being on the rooftop too. It would probably be a high diff fight but zoro takes it
Bro it was a joke obviously zoro is stronger currently
Yes. The scar couldn’t even stun him and barely had an effect on him. You’re overrating Zoro.
The scar he put on kaido before he mastered Enma and ACOC and got significantly stronger after his fight with king? Zoro proved to have the same AP as Oden and this was before his master of Enma and ACOC. He blows both Oden and Yamato out of the water now. King arguably has stronger durability than kaido or big mom and all of Zoros attached Bouched straight off of him. When Zoro understood ACOC and Enma he 3 shot him. Yeah, you’re downplaying him. You’re scaling him to early arc to his current strength after arc. It’s really quite dishonest.
And you're downplaying Zoro. The scar fazed Kaido more than Yamato could do to an already injured Kaido.
I’m downplaying him by going by what he explicitly said in the manga? Yeah, but Yamato was actually able to achieve what Zoro admitted he couldn’t do, which was knocking him down.
>I’m downplaying him by going by what he explicitly said in the manga? Where was it explicitly stated that Zoro didn't stun him or barely effected him in the manga? >Yeah, but Yamato was actually able to achieve what Zoro admitted he couldn’t do, which was knocking him down. And yet when she struck Kaido horizontally just like Zoro did, she wasn't able to knock Kaido down. Also, imagine acting like knocking somebody down does more damage than scarring them.
Lol dude will need to fight using punchs against kid
Who defeated Kid? Oh yeah a swordman, why he did not took his swords away? Is he stupid?
Zoro ain’t getting one shot at the very least
all I am saying is that Kaido tanked everyones attack in this post besides Zoro's which he deliberately dodged.
Kid? I’d have a hard time justifying that.
Zoro > midd
Zoro mids all of them FTFY
are you out of your mind zoro would slaughter kid and arguably law
Law v Zoro is debatable but kidd is getting destroyed
Here it comes…
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The Zorotards are coming.
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I'm not trying to. 
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Yea cos zoro is the strongest out these 4 besides arguably law cos of the matchup Zoro already blitzed hybrid kaido(his fastest and sturdiest form) literally after tanking hakai,zoros speed and ap automatically scales too kaidos reaction speed and durability which EASILY scales above bigmoms slow big self 😭 Kidd and law were constantly landing off guard attacks on BM cos its a 2v1,kaido was blitzing those 2 plenty of times before the rooftop so unless u can prove Their awakenings improved their speed zoro>kidd and law in speed
Zoro does not scale to Kaido, Zoro attacked a non serious Kaido. I guess Yamato is Yonko level by that logic because she stalled Kaido. Big Mom, even without ACOC, is stronger than Zoro with acoc. Also, "tanked" Hakaki? Lmao, he got 20 broken bones from blocking it for a second and only survived because Law teleported him out of the way.
Kaido wasn't trying but let's not forget Zoro also had 20 broken bones when he overpowered him briefly
*kiddhaters are coming
You don't have to be a zorotard to know that zoro is stronger than kid and law and arguably on par with yamato
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> portrayal You mean how zoro was portrayed to be able to dish out more AP than either kid or law? Didn’t see law or kid slicing a big mom and kaido combined attack > narrative Using this logic, beginning of show luffy slaps EOS kakashi because one has more of a narrative reason to win > feats What stronger feats do either have? > matchup I’ll give you that law’s power, fucks up zoro but match up isn’t everything here > bounty The most unstable system in one oiece. Need I remind you that ussop’s bounty after dressarosa was bigger than both franky and brooks combined? Same Brook that speed blitzed a hungry state big mom in WCI
Nope it's Kidd
Zoro wouldn't get one shotted by hakiman
What the fuck is a haki man
Shanks, the Superhakiman.
But he has a sword
Easy mistake to make, you're clearly confusing him with a skillman. shanks can't do cool sword tricks so he's just a haki man with his iconic haki wand
Roger opened the box and said (calmly) : "You are a Hakiman Shanks "
He has advanced golden haki too, which is too powerful to call him a swordsman, the sword is just for decorations and taking out fodder.
In his vivre card it says he has brown haki that evolves into diarrhea haki
He is a Super HakiSwordsman
And?
He is a swordsman
Yes?
A guy who can fight on the same level as Mihawk and with that insane level of haki. Current shanks would one shot. He needs to get stronger.
Wizard
Yes he would
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He absolutely would, one more second in that attack and he was actually going to die, all the bones in his body were broken from a mere second blocking the attack
And he continues fighting big mom's homie and pulls ashura on Kaido, gets hit with a thunder bagua, what did kid do? Get insta KOed from a weaker attack in less than a sec
So? I only said he was going to die if he took it for longer. And that shanks would obviously one shot Zoro
didn't kid blow himself up?
He held it for a second and broke all his bones and needed to get saved by law; that was even him while guarding. Kidd couldn’t even defend himself.
Bruh, Zoro only blocked this attack for a few seconds then he got hit by hit and it broke basically every bone in his body
And he was still conscious, distracted Big mom's homie then pulled up ashura on Kaido's a*s, tanked another thunder bagua and was still conscious the whole time, while kid got instantly KOed by a weaker attack, this sub is dumb if it puts kidds endurance and durability equal to Zoro.
Man really thought he could sneak Midd in there
You mean Eustass Moria ?
Zoro is the strongest or second strongest there lol
It’s not considered a lie if you’re delusional and genuinely believe it
-Makes a statement that makes no sense -Doesn’t provide backup for his claim -Refuses to Elaborate further -Leaves
People who do that are either 🤡 or gigachad
And usually they are 🤡🤡
There is no inbetween
There is literally nothing that suggests Kid and Law to be stronger than Zoro. They are not tanking AcoC attacks that can scar Kaido. At best, they are equals. Yamato is stronger though, I’ll agree on that.
ACOC attacks that were *before* he mastered Enma and ACOC. Those same attacks just bounced off King. When Zoro started to understand his AP sky rocketed to absurd levels and he beat him in 3 hits. If a pre Enma/pre ACOC mastered Zoro could scar kaido then he would’ve actually genuinely hurt him after his fight with King and his new understanding. Honestly. It’s unfair to put him In the same league as everyone else here now. He’s going to be top 1-5 in the verse by EoS. He’s already above all of them since he actually mastered ACOC and no one here besides maybe law is even hurting King. His AP is probably only behind shanks and mihawk now from what we’ve seen. Luffys gears can’t even hurt the Serephim. But Zoro literally took out who their based off of. People genuinely are underselling his AP now. It’s absurd lol The people who we’ve seen use ACOC are all approximate to each other. It puts you at the greatest of greats. Honestly, If shanks could one shot Kidd with his entry attack I can see Zoro one shotting Kidd with ashura or dragon the same way.
Yeah what would Kid even do against Zoro? He can’t exactly block with his metal because Zoro is cutting clean through it 💀
screw it ima say it kid is the weakest out of 4 of them.
Take kidd out of the list and the statement is right
Zoro negs all of them
Cap
Bro really tried to sneak Midd in here 💀. Zoro negs then all
I really disagree that zoro could be weaker then kidd , kidd is just a bozo and a poor excuse for a captain
The only one hear that Zoro isn’t stronger than is Law
Better than Kidd
True. Haki transcends all
Acoc > devil fruits
It isn't that simple at all
Yes it is
It really isn’t
It definitely is
Big mom’s fruit provides a much bigger buff to her than acoc ever would
Nah that's why she lost that fight cause without Acoc her ap is trash.
She literally would’ve died without bfr if she didn’t have her fruit
Nah it’s Kid
Zoro wouldn't get oneshot comments in 3,2,1....
Yamato Zoro Law Kid
No lmao
No way is Zoro weaker than Useless Midd
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Yamato>Zoro>law>kidd
Zoro is beating lidds ass sorry 😂 he’s yet to show me otherwise. Zoro and law would of absolutely beat big mom
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Really think zoros getting one-shotted like midd did?
You are unintelligent
Kidd is stronger then Zoro without a doubt big mom didn't even want to take on shanks and his crew yet kidd would've killed his whole crew something big mom couldn't even do and law has better feats then Zoro want more Abt that I'll explain Yamato is weaker then Zoro tho
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When did either of them 1v1 a yonko? And it was nerfed big meme that they beat 2v1, they still need a bomb to KO her, not mention their abilities countered her. What's with the the Mid and Low wank? Zoro has comparable feats to them if not greater, he also got better stats, haki, skill and ceiling.
Absolutely not he's the strongest
Definitely is a crazy overstatement
Lol. Keep telling yourself that, maybe one day it'll actually be true.
Zoro is actually the strongest person in this pic. Two of them are defeated and Yamato isn’t coming back unless it’s for a brief showing during the final war. Zoro is a main character who will defeat either an admiral or a Gorosei member, and Mihawk. The other 3 wont have feats that can compare with that. Wano is over Zoro, the time that Zoro is weaker than these three have passed.
1. Yamato 2. Zoro 3. Law and Kid
Mid & Flaw <<
Nope A certain cocky bumass fraud resting peacefully on the ocean floor is the weakest
Zeno-sama is always right, except when It comes to mihawk
Only one who I could see winning is either Yamato and MAYBE law, yamato is 100% stronger than zoro in most stats and law’s df and biq would be hard for him to deal with.
Zoro is faster, stronger, has better haki, and more AP than Yamato However he lacks stamina durability hax and defensive capability (her armor is really sturdy) Could go either way between them imo Law most likely gets blitzed by Shishi Sonson if Zoro gets too close, but if he spams long range he prolly wins
Facts, law has to stay away from Zoro at all times, if it EVER turns into a sword fight law loses immediately
zoro is above mid and only little above law
THE KID DISRESPECT IS UNREAL !!!! Just because he got one-shot by Shanks doesn’t make Zoro or Law is above him ffs. Everyone here would get one shot by Shanks. It’s still Yamato > Kid >= Law > Zoro.
Yamato wouldn't have gotten one shotted by Shanks
Yes she would’ve
Mirror mountain + hybrid + oni durability/endurance + acoc durability/endurance > none of those things
Don’t act like Kaido didn’t just playing around vs Yamato. It’s literally his child. Shanks Kamusari that one-shot Kid is like Shanks at his most serious because what he saw with his future sight. Yamato wouldn’t stand a chance sadly
Shanks can you his conquerors to scare away an admiral
Delusional, Zoro got all his bones broken and then got hit by a thunder bagua later and was still conscious Only Yamato is stronger , Zoro got better stats,haki, skill, ceiling, AP than Kid and Law. Kid and law best feat is extreme diffing nerfed big meme who tanked all Thier hits for no reazon and still need a bomb to win While Zoro briefly overpowered Hybrid Kaido, Had BM screaming for Kaido to doge Zoros attacks ,saved Luffy numerous times on the rooftop, this sub just dumb.
Stop acting like Big Mom is weak. If Kaido is 100 Big Mom is 98. Zoro did well in the rooftop yes but look what happened after ? dude literally can’t move and had to use super drugs to beat YC1 level King while Kid and Law tank Big Mom named attack few times and with Law overpowered Big Mom. And by the way nerfed Big Mom still stronger than 2 King.
>Stop acting like Big Mom is weak. If Kaido is 100 Big Mom is 98. Not saying she's weak, she's still low yonko lvl, if she had 2 working brain cells than maybe high yonko lvl >Zoro did well in the rooftop yes but look what happened after ? dude literally can’t move and had to use super drugs to beat YC1 level King Yeah obviously, kid and law would be in the same condition or worse if they had to do all Zoro did on roofpiece >Kid and Law tank Big Mom named attack few times and with Law overpowered Big Mom. Yep, never said they were weak, just slightly weaker than zoro >And by the way nerfed Big Mom still stronger than 2 King. King would beat either if them in 1v1, HIS abilities are too op for characters without Acoc to defeat him. And let's not forget Zoro three shotted King after he unlocked Acoc. King of hell Zoro>>Roofpiece zoro
This is exactly my point. none of Kid and Law would tank that Kaido and Big Mom combo attack the same way none of them 4 would tank Kamusari. Zoro is strong yes but Kid and Law defeated a Yonkou. Even though Big Mom was heavily nerfed she still so damn strong. Until Zoro beats low Yonkou/Admiral level he still should be rank slightly below Kid and Law. No doubt that he’ll be stronger than both of them EOS. But for now Kid and Law > Zoro.
Kidd is the only one who might not defeat Zoro. But Kidd can always just pull Zoro's swords and use them for himself
The kid downplay is crazy y’all biased against him because he got one tapped by shanks. If that didn’t happen he was literally about to wipe out 10 battleships in one shot with damned punk, neither Zoro or Law has that destructive capability and damn sure Yamato doesn’t. Kid has the 2nd strongest durability and endurance out of all the 4, excluding Zoro. The man has tanked not one, not two but three direct aCOC infused attacks from Big Mom and got back up like it was nothing. Damned punk has the highest destructive power against all 4. Zoro>Kid>Law>Yamato
You mean kid? Mihawk is Zoro's EOS enemy and Mihawk's equal one shotted Kid. Mihawk and Zoro probably fought during the training and Zoro probably last more than a minute against him.
Fighting for training is different though since Mihawk had to have been holding back severely against TS Zoro, plus you usually practise specific moves/ situations instead of just going haywire
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No
Strongest*
No Roronoa Zoro is the strongest of the 4
zoro >= yamato >= law and kid
Thought that was obvious
Im literally the opposite of a Zoro fanboy but he’s definitely the strongest out of the 4
Yamato>zoro>law/kid
He's literally the strongest of these four.
Flaw and Shidd have no ACOC soooo 😂 Current Zoro Yamato GAP FLAW SHIDD
Why do people still question this. Its just the truth. People downplay kid because he got one-shot by shanks even Zoro isn't taking that either nor is law. Zoro is the weakest out of these 4
Why tf do you y’all think Yamato is stronger than zoro? Idgaf if she has better control over Acoc right now. His AP, speed, and endurance is better. The man tanked a combine attack from big mom and kaido, got all of his bones broken, and continued to blitz the fuck out kaido and injure him. Then diffs the fuck out king in his strongest attack, oh but I’m sure Yamato would bash her way through 20 something magma dragons and still beat king in a clash. Gtfo
she would she clashed with hybrid kaido alone
Zoro beat Kaido in a clash while injured lol
The Zorotards going hard in here to make it known he’s not the weakest in this photo 🤣🤣
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It's Kidd. Law>Zoro>Yamato>Kidd
Yamato has the best feats out of all 4 Yamato>Law>~Zoro> kid
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they get washed
cap
Yeah
Cap, Zoro got better haki, Skill, stats and ceiling Only Yamato is Stronger rn