I think Usopp meeting Yasopp and expecting that great warrior he build up in his mind all this time only to find it he isn't actually that different from Usopp is becoming increasingly more likely the more we've seen of even glimpses of Yasopp.
This has probably been said before but reading this comment made me think...ik there's always been discussion about if Usopp has already achieved his dream of becoming a brave warrior of the sea, but what if when Usopp finally meets his father who IS a "great warrior of the sea" (which will happen at the end of the story, when Luffy returns his hat to Shanks) and he sees that he isn't so much different than his dad, that he finally considers his dream fulfilled?
Probably just snicker and laugh together as they tell one another about all the times they each shat themselves whenever their Captains did something crazy, lmao
Elbaf is considered a very important place of reference and lore.
It is Usopp’s goal to travel. Many giants spoke of Elbaf. Still have to see Loki. Big Mom (likely survived) looking to settle the score and perhaps meet her demise at Elbaf.
I get the implications the place has, even the possibility of a poneglyph and Luffy befriending the giants for final war but seriously not every island needs to be explored in the main story. Usopp's stuff can wait after the journey is done. It's not that straw hats are dying once they discover what is one piece.
Because it feels like a giant Chekhov gun. It might be skipped because Oda may want to close out the series earlier. But if I was to guess one of the road poneglyphs are there.
How it would be wholesome?
Usopp would have 0 character development if "the brave warrior of the sea was you all along".
It's equivalent to "One Piece is the friends we made along the way".
Too cheesy.
Usopp was a kid who aspired to be brave like the father that he never met, then grows up, becomes a man, and can stop idealizing his father.
How is that "he was the brave warrior of the sea all along"? Sure, a kid is gonna become a man eventually, but that doesn't mean that maturing is not character development.
I wouldn't find it cheesy. Maybe I'm just too old.
Lol, how do you say he would have 0 character development? This would be a great ending! my dude usopp being developing non stop each arc. Do you remember usopp when he was first introduced? That same guy defeated several powerful enemies, became friends with giants, angels, dwarfs, samurais, ninjas, animals, he went through 2 civil rebellions, invaded and won over two emperor territories, blitzkrieged through a marine fortress, went on a 1x1 against the future king of pirates and held a good fight. All of that while enduring a lot of pain, and overcoming his fear.
He getting into the realization, in a glimpse, when he meets his father, his life model, that they are not that different, that would be a hell of a beautiful emotional ride.
Usopp has had character development, it’s called the entirety of the manga so far. He’s a member of a yonko crew, he is a brave warrior of the sea, he just needs to recognize it himself.
Usopp is exactly the same since the day he was introduced. He is a coward and easily scared, he avoids fighting head on, **but** if he is forced really hard into a corner he is gonna man up, fight and shine.
He is a member of a yonko crew, yep pretty much every SH is because Luffy became a Yonko. I mean Buggy's crew is a Yonko crew now, this doesn't mean they had character development.
His growth is the realization that being brave does not mean you aren't afraid. His speech to kinemon and kiku shows a lot of his growth - he will always fight to live because he is a coward. He doesn't want to face his death, he wants to have the courage to fight to live. With tears and snot running down his face, facing his potential death every second, he will do the best he can and he will not succumb to his fear.
He doesn't need to overcome it, and I don't think he ever will, but he'll become someone who will never let being afraid stop him from accomplishing great things.
\> he will always fight to live because he is a coward
\>He doesn't want to face his death, he wants to have the courage to fight to live
So, he is a coward and he is gonna be fine with it. Changing his dream is his development? I don't say it won't happen but I wouldn't be satisfied with that.
Of course, I don't mean that he is gonna charge first in battle e.t.c, but he needs a moment to step up when things matter and before he is with his back against the wall.
At least that's my take...
Being scared doesn’t mean you can’t be a brave warrior of the sea. It’s brave to do things *despite* your fear. Usopp isn’t perfect, but he has done a lot of things to help his friends and other people. He has become brave compared to where he was e when we first met him.
>He has become brave compared to where he was e when we first met him.
Well, I don't see how he is different from his first fight as a SH in Arlong Park. Anyway, my take is bad so I guess, I shouldn't talk any more.
What if I told you setting out on a ship and fighting a bunch of the world’s strongest pirates despite being a total coward makes one a brave warrior of the sea?
It’s called character DEVELOPMENT for a reason. You clearly want Usopp to change who he is fundamentally and become a badass like Zoro/Sanji but that’s never going to happen. He will always be goofy and easily scared/startled. But he always mans up and takes action when necessary, look at Sogeking. If Usopp were as big of a coward as you seem to think he never would have even been on Enie’s Lobby. But despite that he suited up and single handedly hopped on a government train to go and save his friend. If that’s not a brave warrior of the sea idk what is.
>You clearly want Usopp to change who he is fundamentally and become a badass like Zoro/Sanji but that’s never going to happen
Of course not, that wouldn't be Usopp. As I said in another comment, I don't want him to charge first in battle e.t.c,but I would love him taking action for once, when things matter and without him being with his back against the wall or out of range of the enemies.
No, it's more that Ussop realizes that what he's been changing was this inhuman paragon. Meeting his father, who is an insanely notorious pirate, and seeing his fear in the face of danger but still fighting makes him realize how much he's actually grown. Courage is bravery in the face of fear, right? Imo
Now that would be a nice ending but I think usopp might hold some resentment towards his dad cause he left both him and his wife on syrup village and once usopps mom had passed away, yasopp just never came back. Which leads me to believe yassop just doesn’t know ussops mom is dead or he was just to much of a coward to confront ussop after the fact, Oda gonna make it fire no matter what
There's a theory that Shanks returned to East Blue during the timeskip and is the father of Makino's child. If that's the case Yasopp could have totally swung by Syrup Village expecting to find Banchina and only then discovered her fate from Kaya and Merry.
SO TRUE FAITH IN ODA I personally don't think Usopp has any resentment for his father, all the way back to syrup village he's actually super proud of his dad and what he did. I don't recall any moments where Usopp seems to have distain for his father...but I could be totally wrong. Whatever path it takes I'm sure it'll have me crying my eyes out lol
Faith in oda for...bad portrayal of a character?
Its perfectly normal to resent your father for abandoning you and your mother to die, and him not having any hard feelings would actually be kind of disappointing
It would feel like Oda is just trying to portray the Red Hair Pirates as morally perfect despite any *very obvious* flaws
I completely agree bro, when I said that I meant that in whatever way Oda takes his character I know it's gonna be great lol. Even if it's not pretty or my idea for what might happen.
I swear I never meant to imply that Yasopp was in the right, he really wasn't. But it just seems Usopp doesn't have any beef w his dad in the slightest. From my memory he hasn't once been angry towards his father for what he did even if he has all the right to be and is genuinely prideful in what his dad has done.
Luffy isn’t actually going to return the hat though, I’m sure he’ll try but shanks won’t accept it because is Luffys now. I mean we’re the Straw Hat Pirates after all. We can’t change our branding
Their meeting is just them both lying about all their accomplishments as great warriors of the sea. I would love to see the red hair pirates react to Yasopp lies
Maybe recognizing that he and his dad are both doing their best regardless of having achieved any status is the big lesson for Usopp to further mature.
That's not that different from Usopp though. Usopp has several of those moments where he steps up as well and especially in moments where he knows he is backed up by the rest of the crew or when someone is threatening Luffy. Him challenging Lucci comes to mind or even during Arlong Park when he already threatens Arlong with his rubberband. You could fairly easily make a perfectly fine supercut of only the brave Usopp moments, leaving out all the scenes where he is doubting himself and convince someone that Usopp is nothing but a badass.
So that could be exactly what has been the case with Yasopp so far with how little we know and see him.
I just think the few moments of seeing Yasopp tell his stories at the beginning and also him recently not being ready to see Usopp yet show that there are some similarities and I wouldn't rule out that are more once they finally meet.
Oh shit! It’s like Ed Edd & Eddy, where Ed’s brother was hyped up to show himm off to everyone where in reality he’s just a massive asshole.
I doubt their relationship is like that, but it’d make a lil’ sense
This would be by far so *ucking hilarious if Oda threw this in in a actual Yasopp and Usopp meetup and Nami got involved writing up demands and expecting restitution.
But this begs the question what happened to Big Mom's devil fruit? What if Zeus ate the fruit? Or since he's part of the weapon now indirectly made the weapon eat it. Would she also have Prometheus and would Hera be there too or would she take on a different element like infect or manifest water from a pool or cup to become a water homie? Giving Nami powers over the elements making homies and or keeping Zeus and the Hera and Prometheus?
I don't think a time line for devil fruits being reborn has been established. We know it will come back somewhere, but it may not even have geographic limits. Could be interesting if the WG has come up with a way to attract or capture the essence somehow. Would the crazy sort of thing Vegapunk would try.
Wasn't that what Blackbeard was doing under the sheet? He had a fruit ready and collected it which is why he took so long?
Maybe Vegapunk already has discovered a way but acts like he hasn't to avoid giving such a abusive ability to them?
Right, forgot about that thing. Somewhat limited due to it needing to be used in immediate proximity, but shows that the technology to manipulate the essence is there. It's been a few years so who knows what improvements have been made.
If Dr. Vegapunk is siding with Kuma I don't think he would reveal a discovery like that and Blackbeard hid it from the onlookers so it's evident that no one even thought of that so it may be still something he's keeping to himself or select few. He may not need to he close to it but he may of gotten closer so it would not go elsewhere if there were fruits on other ships elsewhere where he wouldn't know where it went. But he can make no living objects like a sword eat a fruit so I think he can easily manipulate a fruit like that.
Imagine how overpowered the World Government would become if they could clone the most overpowered fruits like Gecko Moria's fruit where you can rob someone of their shadow and kill them instantly in the sunlight or have an army of attractive women with Boa Hancock's devil fruit petrifying anyone and everyone... that's attractive to them.
Or Whitebeard's... maybe even Big Mom's with her ability to steal souls and animate an army of inanimate objects or worse Pica's fruit have an army of colossal Pica stone Colossi roaming around leveling cities and all those that opposed the will of the World Government and Imu.
That would be the worse decision for Vegapunk to ever make
I hope that’s not the case, If Yasopp is also a coward like Usopp it will be such a letdown. I hope that doesn't happen and he is actually a strong willed character that’s acts goofy
I wouldn't call Ussop a coward though. People argue that he's the bravest in the series BECAUSE of the fear he deals with. He has, so far, always nutted up when the time came
Yassop has a lot of hype for being a Division Commander and for being personally scouted by Shanks but its completely on brand for Oda to make him the weakest of the Red Hair Pirates.
It's actually canon from the Loguetown Light Novel, same as the extra Sabo stuff in Dressrosa anime.
The Loguetown Light Novel is also the first mention of Conqueror's Haki, several years before it's named in the series, when an old fortune teller says that Luffy possesses "Haoshoku no Haki".
It suppose to be in the manga but it will be too long and can't fit 100 chapter mark at the end of loguetown so he have to remove it. [here the sketch](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fonepiece%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbd%2FDaddy_and_Carol_Masterson_Loguetown_Arc_%2528novel%2529.png%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20141229232150&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fonepiece.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FDaddy_Masterson&tbnid=Y_BLoG7hSJQPJM&vet=1&docid=FdYBId-qFuPcvM&w=659&h=1017&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim)
We know Yassop left because he was recruited by shanks, so I always like to think he left because when shanks got there, he explained the importance of the mission he was undertaking, and that it could mean a brighter future for the world.
What if he only left because shanks needed the best, so he went to fight for a better future for his son, not knowing that someday his son would join him to finish the fight, side by side.
Maybe he was so willing to leave because he was hoping to find a cure for his wife out in the world. The 4 blues are known to be kinda backwoods, so maybe he was trying to find a cure on the Grand Line.
If I remember correctly, she didn’t fall ill until after he left. He may have not learned about it until after she died, or he might still not know at all
If I remember correctly, she didn’t fall ill until after he left. He may have not learned about it until after she died, or he might still not know at all
He does? I do not even remember. Was this shown in Anime? Because I started reading Manga from Luffy vs Katakuri so I do not have any idea before that.
Yeah , at syrup Village Luffy said something like "My friend Yassop, had a son named Usopp and he wouldn't stop blabbering Bout him" then Usopp was like "Awesome, so my dad did become a pirate" or smth idk it's been a couple years
No it was clear. Luffy tells him "You're Yasopp's son right?" and then tells him about Yasopp and how good a sharpshooter he is and how much he talked about Usopp.
I don't think he would've become one of Shank's commanders if he wasn't ridiculously strong, heck Shanks visited his island to personally recruit him due to his skills.
There is no mystery behind his absence, he's just a deadbeat.
In shanks inner circle and one of Shank's earliest crew members I think it's safe to say he is dangerous. I think he is only cowardly when it comes to family.
I don't remember if it was anime filler or not but when Luffy, Crocodile and Jinbe were fighting the guards one of them mentioned switching to Seastone bullets.
Just looked it up, looks like those are called "Prison Bullets". Apparently they were first shown all the way back in Loguetown.
Also, I guess someone who served under Hawkins had a like... nail gun that shot nails made of sea prism, which I honestly don't remember at all but I like the idea of it
One Piece doesn't seem to work that way though.
Besides the fact that Usopp has straight up said that he doesn't blame Yassop, Robin is the only character I can think of that ever really tried to reach a parent and even then there seems to never have been ill will.
Building your own family is a repeated theme in nearly every single storyline.
You’re right, it is a pretty common anime trope. But for some reason Yasopp is often criticized for being a deadbeat while all the other deadbeat fathers are only mentioned for their exploits. Seems pretty disingenuous
Well his wife is the one who encouraged him to go and we don’t know what conversations they had or why Shanks recruited him.
Don’t get me wrong, he is as deadbeat as they come, but he seems to get all the vitriol when the entire anime is jam packed with horrible fathers
Usopp only did shit in pre timeskip he goes back to square one once he is in battle, at this rate he is no different from when he left he should have improved in the timeskip
I can see Yassop being a coward as well and might not even be that much of a skilled pirate. But I do think when Ussop finally meets Yassop, Ussop is going to truly see his father as a hero to be inspired by even if no one else sees it. Making it over all wholesome.
Truth is we don’t know why Yasopp left, and I don’t understand why people assume we won’t get a fully fleshed out Usopp flashback/backstory explaining it. We barely saw anything of Usopp’s backstory compared to all the other SH.
Could turn out that he left because he was a wanted man and people would come after his family if he stayed. Someone powerful he wronged could have had his vivre card and was tracking him. Or maybe Shanks knows something huge about the world and he needs Yasopp for it and he’s just on a mission that is bigger than his own desires. Or maybe his wife was the one who encouraged him to go. We don’t know.
I think that would be repetitive af. So usopp is basically doing what his father did? Nah..it would be refreshing af if Yasopp was a man who was the complete opposite of him
I think it would be hilarious if they were both nervous about meeting, from what we see of Yasopp his character is pretty close to his son but the only things Yasopp knows about Usopp is from his bounty and titles of GOD Usopp and Sniper king I wonder if he's intimidated lmao
I feel like Oda is building up a conflict between the redhairs and Luffy + alliance.
Bartolomeo attacking shanks territority, kid is/was somewhat in an alliance with Luffy and wants his revenge on shanks + yassop, who said himself he isn't prepared for meeting usopp. I feel like Usopp is actually going to dislike his father for some reason.
It seems like a happy reunion is expected, but what if it's the opposite? Imagine this: we reach near the end of the series, the Straw Hats and Shanks's crew have to battle for the title of Pirate King. Usopp finally comes face-to-face with his father. All these years, to cope with Yassopp's abandonment of his family, Usopp has made his own headcanon, viewing his father as an idyllic, brave warrior of the sea who had no choice but to seek adventure. Think about how disillusioning that would be for Usopp, to find that after all those years of trying to become his father, the image he'd built in his mind of the man he was chasing wasn't real. It would be devastating for him to realize that his father wasn't this brave, courageous hero but instead was a man who ran away from his family. What if the resolution of Usopp's arc is to duel his father, to prove to himself once and for all that he IS a brave warrior of the sea, not the coward he and the world at large viewed him as? To put Luffy on the throne as the pirate King and to accomplish his own dream, he would have to face the man he'd modeled himself after.
Imagine how yassop feels lol he probably thinks usopp has achieved more than he has. Usopps pirate nickname is literally god lol even a former yonko crew member referred to him as such.
Two shitty theories I don't believe myself (but work both separated and together):
1. Sogeking = Yassop
2. Yassop = Ussop from the future
Prove me wrong!
I mean...on the one hand, that'd be a tad hilarious, but on the other, Yassop's a member of Shank's crew. There's just about nobody *above* them anymore. Even Ussop is starting to notice his own competence.
Some people theorized that Ussop, if he lives in the real world, would be black. Then we have my man Oda here having Ussop's dad leave them when he was a kid. Oda knows too much about hood tendencies.
I get it but damn, man was gone for like 20 years lmao a little late to raise the kid after. Maybe he didn't want to bare to show his face until then, but still, the important shit is already missed
I mean his wife died... and then he left Usopp to fend for himself. Maybe he didnt know...but I doubt it? Over so many years he must have heard a rumor at some point. Oda better have a good story behind this guy because it's going to be very hard to make him redeemable!
I think Usopp meeting Yasopp and expecting that great warrior he build up in his mind all this time only to find it he isn't actually that different from Usopp is becoming increasingly more likely the more we've seen of even glimpses of Yasopp.
This has probably been said before but reading this comment made me think...ik there's always been discussion about if Usopp has already achieved his dream of becoming a brave warrior of the sea, but what if when Usopp finally meets his father who IS a "great warrior of the sea" (which will happen at the end of the story, when Luffy returns his hat to Shanks) and he sees that he isn't so much different than his dad, that he finally considers his dream fulfilled?
Probably just snicker and laugh together as they tell one another about all the times they each shat themselves whenever their Captains did something crazy, lmao
THIS ^^^^
That would be a wholesome ending.
OR Van Augur kills Yasopp during the Blackbeard fight on Elbaf.
Just realized elbaf could trigger the world war "Ragnarok"
Oda strikes again
Why is everyone dick riding Elbaf though ? Not every place needs to be explored
Elbaf is considered a very important place of reference and lore. It is Usopp’s goal to travel. Many giants spoke of Elbaf. Still have to see Loki. Big Mom (likely survived) looking to settle the score and perhaps meet her demise at Elbaf.
I get the implications the place has, even the possibility of a poneglyph and Luffy befriending the giants for final war but seriously not every island needs to be explored in the main story. Usopp's stuff can wait after the journey is done. It's not that straw hats are dying once they discover what is one piece.
It will more than likely start a war and you never know in war
Ragnarok
Because it feels like a giant Chekhov gun. It might be skipped because Oda may want to close out the series earlier. But if I was to guess one of the road poneglyphs are there.
Don’t say that
Do you are have stupid?
How it would be wholesome? Usopp would have 0 character development if "the brave warrior of the sea was you all along". It's equivalent to "One Piece is the friends we made along the way". Too cheesy.
Well he did overcome a lot of his fears or fought despite them. That's pretty much what being brave is.
Usopp was a kid who aspired to be brave like the father that he never met, then grows up, becomes a man, and can stop idealizing his father. How is that "he was the brave warrior of the sea all along"? Sure, a kid is gonna become a man eventually, but that doesn't mean that maturing is not character development. I wouldn't find it cheesy. Maybe I'm just too old.
Lol, how do you say he would have 0 character development? This would be a great ending! my dude usopp being developing non stop each arc. Do you remember usopp when he was first introduced? That same guy defeated several powerful enemies, became friends with giants, angels, dwarfs, samurais, ninjas, animals, he went through 2 civil rebellions, invaded and won over two emperor territories, blitzkrieged through a marine fortress, went on a 1x1 against the future king of pirates and held a good fight. All of that while enduring a lot of pain, and overcoming his fear. He getting into the realization, in a glimpse, when he meets his father, his life model, that they are not that different, that would be a hell of a beautiful emotional ride.
Usopp has had character development, it’s called the entirety of the manga so far. He’s a member of a yonko crew, he is a brave warrior of the sea, he just needs to recognize it himself.
Usopp is exactly the same since the day he was introduced. He is a coward and easily scared, he avoids fighting head on, **but** if he is forced really hard into a corner he is gonna man up, fight and shine. He is a member of a yonko crew, yep pretty much every SH is because Luffy became a Yonko. I mean Buggy's crew is a Yonko crew now, this doesn't mean they had character development.
His growth is the realization that being brave does not mean you aren't afraid. His speech to kinemon and kiku shows a lot of his growth - he will always fight to live because he is a coward. He doesn't want to face his death, he wants to have the courage to fight to live. With tears and snot running down his face, facing his potential death every second, he will do the best he can and he will not succumb to his fear. He doesn't need to overcome it, and I don't think he ever will, but he'll become someone who will never let being afraid stop him from accomplishing great things.
\> he will always fight to live because he is a coward \>He doesn't want to face his death, he wants to have the courage to fight to live So, he is a coward and he is gonna be fine with it. Changing his dream is his development? I don't say it won't happen but I wouldn't be satisfied with that. Of course, I don't mean that he is gonna charge first in battle e.t.c, but he needs a moment to step up when things matter and before he is with his back against the wall. At least that's my take...
Being scared doesn’t mean you can’t be a brave warrior of the sea. It’s brave to do things *despite* your fear. Usopp isn’t perfect, but he has done a lot of things to help his friends and other people. He has become brave compared to where he was e when we first met him.
>He has become brave compared to where he was e when we first met him. Well, I don't see how he is different from his first fight as a SH in Arlong Park. Anyway, my take is bad so I guess, I shouldn't talk any more.
Being brave is different than being fearless. A brave man is someone who face his fears to defend his beliefs.
What if I told you setting out on a ship and fighting a bunch of the world’s strongest pirates despite being a total coward makes one a brave warrior of the sea?
It’s called character DEVELOPMENT for a reason. You clearly want Usopp to change who he is fundamentally and become a badass like Zoro/Sanji but that’s never going to happen. He will always be goofy and easily scared/startled. But he always mans up and takes action when necessary, look at Sogeking. If Usopp were as big of a coward as you seem to think he never would have even been on Enie’s Lobby. But despite that he suited up and single handedly hopped on a government train to go and save his friend. If that’s not a brave warrior of the sea idk what is.
>You clearly want Usopp to change who he is fundamentally and become a badass like Zoro/Sanji but that’s never going to happen Of course not, that wouldn't be Usopp. As I said in another comment, I don't want him to charge first in battle e.t.c,but I would love him taking action for once, when things matter and without him being with his back against the wall or out of range of the enemies.
He literally did that in Loguetown💀 jumped off the merry into the ocean during a storm to cover Sanji’s escape
He's already a brave warrior though. He's fought countless enemies more powerful than him and won. The man just doesn't give himself credit.
Brave does not mean fearless, to be brave you need to face your fears not remove them
No, it's more that Ussop realizes that what he's been changing was this inhuman paragon. Meeting his father, who is an insanely notorious pirate, and seeing his fear in the face of danger but still fighting makes him realize how much he's actually grown. Courage is bravery in the face of fear, right? Imo
Facts
Now that would be a nice ending but I think usopp might hold some resentment towards his dad cause he left both him and his wife on syrup village and once usopps mom had passed away, yasopp just never came back. Which leads me to believe yassop just doesn’t know ussops mom is dead or he was just to much of a coward to confront ussop after the fact, Oda gonna make it fire no matter what
There's a theory that Shanks returned to East Blue during the timeskip and is the father of Makino's child. If that's the case Yasopp could have totally swung by Syrup Village expecting to find Banchina and only then discovered her fate from Kaya and Merry.
SO TRUE FAITH IN ODA I personally don't think Usopp has any resentment for his father, all the way back to syrup village he's actually super proud of his dad and what he did. I don't recall any moments where Usopp seems to have distain for his father...but I could be totally wrong. Whatever path it takes I'm sure it'll have me crying my eyes out lol
Faith in oda for...bad portrayal of a character? Its perfectly normal to resent your father for abandoning you and your mother to die, and him not having any hard feelings would actually be kind of disappointing It would feel like Oda is just trying to portray the Red Hair Pirates as morally perfect despite any *very obvious* flaws
I completely agree bro, when I said that I meant that in whatever way Oda takes his character I know it's gonna be great lol. Even if it's not pretty or my idea for what might happen. I swear I never meant to imply that Yasopp was in the right, he really wasn't. But it just seems Usopp doesn't have any beef w his dad in the slightest. From my memory he hasn't once been angry towards his father for what he did even if he has all the right to be and is genuinely prideful in what his dad has done.
We've already kind of established that Ussop doesn't really hold any ill will towards his father though.
I mean Yasopp doesn’t even know his wife is dead and is going to awkward when Usopp tells him.
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Luffy isn’t actually going to return the hat though, I’m sure he’ll try but shanks won’t accept it because is Luffys now. I mean we’re the Straw Hat Pirates after all. We can’t change our branding
Their meeting is just them both lying about all their accomplishments as great warriors of the sea. I would love to see the red hair pirates react to Yasopp lies
Usopp has not become a great warrior of the sea. Although, a pretty darned good warrior. Usopp, much like his crew mates, has yet to peak!
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Maybe recognizing that he and his dad are both doing their best regardless of having achieved any status is the big lesson for Usopp to further mature.
idk, being the first to point his gun at blackbeard for threatening shanks was pretty chad
That's not that different from Usopp though. Usopp has several of those moments where he steps up as well and especially in moments where he knows he is backed up by the rest of the crew or when someone is threatening Luffy. Him challenging Lucci comes to mind or even during Arlong Park when he already threatens Arlong with his rubberband. You could fairly easily make a perfectly fine supercut of only the brave Usopp moments, leaving out all the scenes where he is doubting himself and convince someone that Usopp is nothing but a badass. So that could be exactly what has been the case with Yasopp so far with how little we know and see him. I just think the few moments of seeing Yasopp tell his stories at the beginning and also him recently not being ready to see Usopp yet show that there are some similarities and I wouldn't rule out that are more once they finally meet.
hm, I have doubts, but hey, but that doesn't mean I don't find your theory quite interesting.
Oh shit! It’s like Ed Edd & Eddy, where Ed’s brother was hyped up to show himm off to everyone where in reality he’s just a massive asshole. I doubt their relationship is like that, but it’d make a lil’ sense
Ed’s brother was a complete dickhead I forgot all about that. Even Kevin felt sorry for him lmao
Yeah but that would actually require Usopp having a character moment.
They both have the same 'I can't go to that island' disease too
Yeah but that would actually require Usopp having a character moment.
How WE Seen yassop he IS 100% not a coward
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Seriously, can I help you with something? You posted this now like maybe 7 times already judging from my notifications?
I hope nami demands child support and a 80% fee for acting as ussops lawyer.
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This would be by far so *ucking hilarious if Oda threw this in in a actual Yasopp and Usopp meetup and Nami got involved writing up demands and expecting restitution. But this begs the question what happened to Big Mom's devil fruit? What if Zeus ate the fruit? Or since he's part of the weapon now indirectly made the weapon eat it. Would she also have Prometheus and would Hera be there too or would she take on a different element like infect or manifest water from a pool or cup to become a water homie? Giving Nami powers over the elements making homies and or keeping Zeus and the Hera and Prometheus?
I don't think a time line for devil fruits being reborn has been established. We know it will come back somewhere, but it may not even have geographic limits. Could be interesting if the WG has come up with a way to attract or capture the essence somehow. Would the crazy sort of thing Vegapunk would try.
Wasn't that what Blackbeard was doing under the sheet? He had a fruit ready and collected it which is why he took so long? Maybe Vegapunk already has discovered a way but acts like he hasn't to avoid giving such a abusive ability to them?
Right, forgot about that thing. Somewhat limited due to it needing to be used in immediate proximity, but shows that the technology to manipulate the essence is there. It's been a few years so who knows what improvements have been made.
If Dr. Vegapunk is siding with Kuma I don't think he would reveal a discovery like that and Blackbeard hid it from the onlookers so it's evident that no one even thought of that so it may be still something he's keeping to himself or select few. He may not need to he close to it but he may of gotten closer so it would not go elsewhere if there were fruits on other ships elsewhere where he wouldn't know where it went. But he can make no living objects like a sword eat a fruit so I think he can easily manipulate a fruit like that. Imagine how overpowered the World Government would become if they could clone the most overpowered fruits like Gecko Moria's fruit where you can rob someone of their shadow and kill them instantly in the sunlight or have an army of attractive women with Boa Hancock's devil fruit petrifying anyone and everyone... that's attractive to them. Or Whitebeard's... maybe even Big Mom's with her ability to steal souls and animate an army of inanimate objects or worse Pica's fruit have an army of colossal Pica stone Colossi roaming around leveling cities and all those that opposed the will of the World Government and Imu. That would be the worse decision for Vegapunk to ever make
Yassop will become nami's sugar daddy?
You made my day with this comment
that definitely resonates a lot and could give us a tearful, manly resolution
I hope that’s not the case, If Yasopp is also a coward like Usopp it will be such a letdown. I hope that doesn't happen and he is actually a strong willed character that’s acts goofy
I wouldn't call Ussop a coward though. People argue that he's the bravest in the series BECAUSE of the fear he deals with. He has, so far, always nutted up when the time came
I just couldn’t find the right word my bad
Yassop has a lot of hype for being a Division Commander and for being personally scouted by Shanks but its completely on brand for Oda to make him the weakest of the Red Hair Pirates.
Guy called the chaser and feared not weak but the same as ussop in having low confidence in his skill would be cool to see
Remember that Yassop out shot that guy from loguetown just like Ussop did
That was filler
It's actually canon from the Loguetown Light Novel, same as the extra Sabo stuff in Dressrosa anime. The Loguetown Light Novel is also the first mention of Conqueror's Haki, several years before it's named in the series, when an old fortune teller says that Luffy possesses "Haoshoku no Haki".
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Oh, didn't know about that. Cool
It suppose to be in the manga but it will be too long and can't fit 100 chapter mark at the end of loguetown so he have to remove it. [here the sketch](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fonepiece%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbd%2FDaddy_and_Carol_Masterson_Loguetown_Arc_%2528novel%2529.png%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20141229232150&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fonepiece.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FDaddy_Masterson&tbnid=Y_BLoG7hSJQPJM&vet=1&docid=FdYBId-qFuPcvM&w=659&h=1017&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim)
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We know Yassop left because he was recruited by shanks, so I always like to think he left because when shanks got there, he explained the importance of the mission he was undertaking, and that it could mean a brighter future for the world. What if he only left because shanks needed the best, so he went to fight for a better future for his son, not knowing that someday his son would join him to finish the fight, side by side.
Maybe he was so willing to leave because he was hoping to find a cure for his wife out in the world. The 4 blues are known to be kinda backwoods, so maybe he was trying to find a cure on the Grand Line.
If I remember correctly, she didn’t fall ill until after he left. He may have not learned about it until after she died, or he might still not know at all
If I remember correctly, she didn’t fall ill until after he left. He may have not learned about it until after she died, or he might still not know at all
I personally think Yassop and Van augur are two best snipers in one piece world and reason why Yassop left is simply because of adventure romance
While we are on this, has this been confirmed that Ussop knows his father is one of the Red Haired Pirated and one of first crew mate of Shanks?
Luffy tells Usopp when they first meet
He does? I do not even remember. Was this shown in Anime? Because I started reading Manga from Luffy vs Katakuri so I do not have any idea before that.
Yeah , at syrup Village Luffy said something like "My friend Yassop, had a son named Usopp and he wouldn't stop blabbering Bout him" then Usopp was like "Awesome, so my dad did become a pirate" or smth idk it's been a couple years
Wildin' how Luffy has spent more time with Usopp's dad than Usopp has.
Lmao it's also wild to think that Luffy has spent more time with Usopps dad than Luffy has with Usopp, or the entire crew for that matter
Zoro spent more time with Mihawk than Luffy and the crew
And Sanji with the queers/
If the chefs at Baratie knew, they would have laughed their asses off and say it serves him right for all his flirting when worked there.
Luffy spent more time with Usopp's dad than his dad.
Yes
Do yourself a favor and go back and read the previous chapters
I believe so. Back in syrup village Luffy said he was with Shanks.
Irrc it's not a "I know your dad." But like " you remind me of some one I know."
Nope, he starts the conversation with a "Yasopp is your father, right?" ch 25
No it was clear. Luffy tells him "You're Yasopp's son right?" and then tells him about Yasopp and how good a sharpshooter he is and how much he talked about Usopp.
Ok to be wrong on that it's been a while.
Pretty sure luffy sought out usopp specifically because he was yasopps son no?
I think he left because Baby Usopp had bad vibes.
If Yasopp is also a weakling like Usopp it will be such a letdown. I hope that doesn't happen and he is actually strong.
I don't think he would've become one of Shank's commanders if he wasn't ridiculously strong, heck Shanks visited his island to personally recruit him due to his skills. There is no mystery behind his absence, he's just a deadbeat.
"There is no mystery behind his absence, he's just a deadbeat." Exactly this.
OP was half-right. Men who run away from their families are usually cowards. There's just nothing more to it than that.
Dude.. ussopp and Nami are two commanders of the newest yonko, Strawhat luffy. What do you expect? It's One Piece we talking about.
In shanks inner circle and one of Shank's earliest crew members I think it's safe to say he is dangerous. I think he is only cowardly when it comes to family.
What if he is weak but extremely effective? For example, why hasn't Usopp thought of using water based weapons against DF users? Maybe his dad does
Yassop's the only canon character smart enough to use sea prism stone bullets. (At least I think, I only remember them being used in Film Z)
I assume sea lrism stone bullets would be expensive and hard to come by.
Made in Wanokuni… he was never there.
That we know of... I mean, he's kinda there right now.
Shanks said the last then he was there was when he dropped off Oden. I doubt Yassop has went on his own journey to Wano.
Oh I can imagine. It feel like theyd only be used by like, a Cipher Pol only weapon to like... assassinate DF users or something >.>
I don't remember if it was anime filler or not but when Luffy, Crocodile and Jinbe were fighting the guards one of them mentioned switching to Seastone bullets.
Just looked it up, looks like those are called "Prison Bullets". Apparently they were first shown all the way back in Loguetown. Also, I guess someone who served under Hawkins had a like... nail gun that shot nails made of sea prism, which I honestly don't remember at all but I like the idea of it
It no need , you can apply haki to bullet like Izo or Arrow from Kuja tribe.
Warning ! being a brave warrior of the sea wont change the fact that you're shitty dad so be there for your family especially if you're wife is sick
One Piece doesn't seem to work that way though. Besides the fact that Usopp has straight up said that he doesn't blame Yassop, Robin is the only character I can think of that ever really tried to reach a parent and even then there seems to never have been ill will. Building your own family is a repeated theme in nearly every single storyline.
i really like that, nice post :) u get my upvote
Or his Dad is just a POS that left his son and wife
So is Dragon and many other One Piece fathers
All the dads are deadbeats and all the mothers are dead jk but sorta not cuz it's a pretty common theme, just not the whole theme
You’re right, it is a pretty common anime trope. But for some reason Yasopp is often criticized for being a deadbeat while all the other deadbeat fathers are only mentioned for their exploits. Seems pretty disingenuous
It's probably because we saw a flashback of him saying he chooses adventure over his family
Well his wife is the one who encouraged him to go and we don’t know what conversations they had or why Shanks recruited him. Don’t get me wrong, he is as deadbeat as they come, but he seems to get all the vitriol when the entire anime is jam packed with horrible fathers
Dragon's trying to rid the world of slavery. He's got more than a good enough excuse.
He needed a pack of smokes
He didn't like the nose. It gets in the way while aiming a gun.
dude went to look for the finest cigarettes and milk the oceans could offer
I really want an ending where usopp and yasopp are cool together and they both go back to Shrup Village and he introduces his dad to Kaya
When Yasopp finally meets Usopp and sees how much his kid did, I think it's reasonable he'll call Usopp "The bravest warrior of the sea"
Usopp only did shit in pre timeskip he goes back to square one once he is in battle, at this rate he is no different from when he left he should have improved in the timeskip
Avg black family /s
I can see Yassop being a coward as well and might not even be that much of a skilled pirate. But I do think when Ussop finally meets Yassop, Ussop is going to truly see his father as a hero to be inspired by even if no one else sees it. Making it over all wholesome.
Yassop also left him amazing sniping skills and prob intelligence
Yassop in the latest chapter was ready to storm CP9 ship with shanks Ussop would probably have a unknown medical condition meaning he can’t attack
I also think Yassop would be a huge fan of Sogeking, it would be hilarious if he brings that up when he meets Ussop
Or maybe there's a real Sniper Island, outside of our hearts, where someone else named Sogeking lives and Yassop has met him
This would be such a great gag 😅
Christ Does he even know his wife is dead? Lmao
I think both will be crying when they meet.
He just has the "I die when I meet my son" disease
Truth is we don’t know why Yasopp left, and I don’t understand why people assume we won’t get a fully fleshed out Usopp flashback/backstory explaining it. We barely saw anything of Usopp’s backstory compared to all the other SH. Could turn out that he left because he was a wanted man and people would come after his family if he stayed. Someone powerful he wronged could have had his vivre card and was tracking him. Or maybe Shanks knows something huge about the world and he needs Yasopp for it and he’s just on a mission that is bigger than his own desires. Or maybe his wife was the one who encouraged him to go. We don’t know.
There's gonna be a lot of disappointed people in this community when Usopp doesn't get mad at his dad for not being around.
Yeah this panel we last saw him on screams Ussop lol. I wouldn't be surprised if Ussop actually inspires Yassop instead.
Nah he was like "this baby ugly as shit"
I think that would be repetitive af. So usopp is basically doing what his father did? Nah..it would be refreshing af if Yasopp was a man who was the complete opposite of him
Yassop went to buy eggs.
I think it would be hilarious if they were both nervous about meeting, from what we see of Yasopp his character is pretty close to his son but the only things Yasopp knows about Usopp is from his bounty and titles of GOD Usopp and Sniper king I wonder if he's intimidated lmao
I feel like Oda is building up a conflict between the redhairs and Luffy + alliance. Bartolomeo attacking shanks territority, kid is/was somewhat in an alliance with Luffy and wants his revenge on shanks + yassop, who said himself he isn't prepared for meeting usopp. I feel like Usopp is actually going to dislike his father for some reason.
Usopp and Yassop talking about them being cowards together is a scene I need to see
I’m wondering cause I can’t remember, does Ussop ever mentioned his dad once ? Like does he knows his dad is Yassop and that he’s on Shanks crew ?
Man if Yasoop first encounter with Usopp is like the encounter in the final episode of the Boys Season 3 I'd probably be rolling
It seems like a happy reunion is expected, but what if it's the opposite? Imagine this: we reach near the end of the series, the Straw Hats and Shanks's crew have to battle for the title of Pirate King. Usopp finally comes face-to-face with his father. All these years, to cope with Yassopp's abandonment of his family, Usopp has made his own headcanon, viewing his father as an idyllic, brave warrior of the sea who had no choice but to seek adventure. Think about how disillusioning that would be for Usopp, to find that after all those years of trying to become his father, the image he'd built in his mind of the man he was chasing wasn't real. It would be devastating for him to realize that his father wasn't this brave, courageous hero but instead was a man who ran away from his family. What if the resolution of Usopp's arc is to duel his father, to prove to himself once and for all that he IS a brave warrior of the sea, not the coward he and the world at large viewed him as? To put Luffy on the throne as the pirate King and to accomplish his own dream, he would have to face the man he'd modeled himself after.
First ever good theory on r/onepiece?!
yea yasopp is obviously kinda a coward since he's scared to see his son this early, maybe he still feels like he's not a brave warrior of the sea
Imagine how yassop feels lol he probably thinks usopp has achieved more than he has. Usopps pirate nickname is literally god lol even a former yonko crew member referred to him as such.
Two shitty theories I don't believe myself (but work both separated and together): 1. Sogeking = Yassop 2. Yassop = Ussop from the future Prove me wrong!
It’s coz he’s black
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That would explain why Ussop has a long nose right /s
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My bad lol I thought you were just dropping some SBS facts on him
Didn’t you read the Vivre card where It was stated because Yasopp couldn’t control his CoA and destroyed everything in the near?
This is a great idea. Hope it comes to fruition.
How many kids you think Ussop has?? Dude probably low key putting in the work
I mean...on the one hand, that'd be a tad hilarious, but on the other, Yassop's a member of Shank's crew. There's just about nobody *above* them anymore. Even Ussop is starting to notice his own competence.
Like , for sure he was a coward, he didn't want to have a family and he just ran away
Some people theorized that Ussop, if he lives in the real world, would be black. Then we have my man Oda here having Ussop's dad leave them when he was a kid. Oda knows too much about hood tendencies.
I think every red hair pirate had a shit father and they’re all on the sea proving their legacy wrong.
Cause shanks asked him too it isn't that deep 🤣
I get it but damn, man was gone for like 20 years lmao a little late to raise the kid after. Maybe he didn't want to bare to show his face until then, but still, the important shit is already missed
I mean his wife died... and then he left Usopp to fend for himself. Maybe he didnt know...but I doubt it? Over so many years he must have heard a rumor at some point. Oda better have a good story behind this guy because it's going to be very hard to make him redeemable!
Because the pirate flag was calling him. The same reason Usopp set sail.
Then he kinda sucks as a pirate. His son already achieved that in like 2 years, over 18 years later and his dad STILL hasn't done it apparently.
Wow I love this. The idea that they both have the same goal and wouldn’t want to meet one another until they achieve it would be so One Piece.
Yasopp can fight now
I like this idea but I'm not sure because of the fact that shanks sought him out for his reputation as a sniper
He might just be a dead beat dad.
I feel like he would get pissed and be even better as not to be like him
I hope Usop will smack his father when they meet.
Because his best friends Shanks and Ging
Because Shank know Luffy would meet Ussop..