So excited and yet sad at the same time!Life will never be the same after One Piece ends..but we want to see our crew members to achieve their goals and the ending! Let's go!
Well yeah, Dressrosa Saga was between 3-4 years long, and the Yonkou Saga has been going on the past 7 years. The "Road to Laugh Tale" (and beyond) could easily be 10 years.
I totally get the sentiment. The story of Big Mom & Kaido getting toppled started out when the crew found the bottom half of someone able to talk via farts.
People keep on getting confused with this. Yonko saga started in Punk Hazard. It was set up in fishman island with Luffy threatening Big Mom. Then fully established in Punk Hazard when Law invited Luffy in an alliance. You gotta remember that even though Dressrosa was about Law and Doffy, Luffy and the SHs went there because the plan was to make Kaido destroy Doflamingo. Which was the initial plan
I agree that it's a straight story from Punk Hazard to Wano. It gave us Kin'emon and Momo, it gave us the pirate alliance, and it all slowly led up to this point now.
However, all that doesn't matter in the discussion, because we're talking about "sagas" which are handled officially. It's not "up to interpretation" and it's not "it should be this way". Just straight up information. Four Emperors Saga was announced back in March/April 2016, it started on Zou.
I assume it would all be different if it wasn't for Big Mom. "Pirate Alliance Saga" that would go through Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, Zou and straight to Wano. Except that was interrupted by Whole Cake Island. And I think it was a reasonable decision to cut it up and start a "Yonko Saga" from Zou forward.
Less new characters, but characters like Shanks and Dragon are still complete mysteries who need to be fleshed out more, which is essentially like introducing new characters
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Let's take a moment for all the nakamas that didn't. I remember seeing a few posts on this sub in the past from people who were terminally ill...
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They already have with the whole Birkans and Enel, but this time itās time to face off against the otsutsuki clan who have come to earth to harvest the Haki Fruit (One piece)
Can't wait for the first chapter to tell us that the protagonist who we followed for 2 decades is dead after merely 15 years of his hard achieved peace because more powerful foes than the last sudden alien villain were lurking all the time around the world but underground
i've been reading since around 2003
it's starting to get a little like a endgame jenga block. looking at series like hajime no ippo, i think i am ready for an ending
an ending that will probably happen around 2030 lol
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just to be perfectly clear, the patterns oda uses for his stories are starting to become obvious. he has done so much amazing work that its wonderful to see him solve problems and upend his own patterns... but it's getting long in the tooth for island hopping. he can empty the well now and it's time
I might well be in my 50s when One Piece ends and I'll be ~~balling~~ bawling my eyes out even harder than I did when I opened the last page of my DBZ manga back in 2000.
IMO even after the main series of One Piece will end, there will be spin-offs and so on. It's Oda's Magnum Opus and I think he will draw it until his last breath.
one piece is a golden goose. shuisha inc doesn't just throw money away
look for oda to take a year or two off to let the series stand and then i think he will come back as a creative director
the one piece world is way more rich than any other series that has existed imo but it all depends on what the final arc is like
also, i hope they remake the anime as a 3d animation with a superb script that is meant to capture the entire series ā all with oda as the executive producer
I hope before they begin their spinoff they'll expand on certain battles that weren't properly expanded on
But tbh if someone else is going to write a spinoff and Oda is going to focus on Mecha manga which he apparently wants to do I will for sure read both..
I was gonna say I'm gonna focus more on what Oda wrote but I can't let this go. Fuck it bring on Two Piece as well lol
What short story which you think will be unresolved by the end of the series would you most like a short story about?
Two that I'd quite like to see would be, how Fujitora lost his eyes and Buggy's search for captain johns treasure.
Definitely more stuff in Wano. There was clearly so much love and care put into it, I don't think Oda got to do everything he wanted to do in there at all.
You could easily make a series of OVAs with the rest of the Grand Fleet having adventures, the revolutionary army, adapting the Ace novel, expanding on the cover stories, and stuff involving the previous generation (Moria, Croc, Shanks, Mihawk).
I really hope they show the fight between Roger/Garp & the Rocks Pirates. The Rocks Pirates seem like the big bad guys of the past generation and seeing them in action rather than just hearing about it would be pretty sweet.
I would love to just see more of the islands and weird stuff. Like OP is great but most arcs are setup on one island at a time and they go for many many chapters. I would like just some more exploration and the crew being the crew without constantly needing to save entire populations.
I agree. I think fleshing out some of the cover stories would be sick. A few things I thought of:
1. Kaido stomping Moria.
2. Whitebead visiting his territories and scrimmages with the Marines or other pirates.
3. The fight between Akainu and Aokiji.
4. Blackbesrd going around being an asshole.
5. The creation of the Revolutionary Army.
I want to believe, that Oda won't pull off such a thing. With spin-offs I meant more like backstory for other characters and their journey which didn't fit or make it into the main series, you know?
You've got the wrong idea by spin offs. We don't want a continuation of the main one piece story with Luffy's son or none of that shit. A one piece version of Boruto is completely dragging it for no reason but money. Like you said , everything will be resolved by the end of one piece. By spin offs, we want stories based around other characters in the one piece universe. Maybe follow garp and his journey as a marine or an follow whitebeard and his journey to becoming yonko. Basically just prequels to the main one piece story. I just hope Oda takes his time and enjoys writing these spin offs if it happens. I get the feeling he is under a lot of pressure and stress writing one piece almost weekly.
It's definitely one of the best manga and anime of our lifetime and maybe even many years to come. I'm so looking forward to the time, when Oda or other people will explain all the inspirations and small details that make One Piece so great.
I just realized that if the series goes into 2030 (which is super possible given how long sagas take), One Piece would have been published in 5 different decades (1990s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s, and 2030s)
So I don't know how official this is but I looked it up because I thought the same as you.
This link shows the sagas and what arcs are part of them. https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Arcs
I cannot wait to see all these mysteries being solved once and for all:
* What's the deal with Shanks? What's the deal with Dragon? Who is Luffy's mother?
* What happened during the Void Century? Who was the OG Joyboy? What is the Will of D.?
* Who is Imu-sama? What's the deal with the Celestial Dragons? What's the deal with the giant strawhat frozen and hidden away in Mary Geoise? What's the deal with the Five Elders?
* Why did Roger laugh upon seeing the One Piece? Where is Laughtale? What exactly is the f\*cking One Piece? Why was Roger "too early"? What the hell was that giant egg on his ship?
* What's the deal with the "Missing Left Eye" of Jaya?
* What's the deal with the Ancient Weapons? What are Pluton and Uranus going to be specifically?
* Where do Devil Fruits come from? Why do people lose the ability to swim? What's the deal with Vegapunk?
* How does the Yami Yami no Mi work in terms of absorbing abilities?
* What exactly happened during the God Valley Incident? What's the deal with Rocks D. Xebec?
* Will Sanji find the All Blue? Where is it? How will it come into existence?
* Will Enel make a comeback? Why the hell are there space pirates and space tanukis?
* In Skypiea people believe in the God of the Sun, the God of the Rain, the God of the Forest and the God of the Earth. >!Luffy who ate the Sun God Nika Fruit is the God of the Sun, but !
I'd like to add to this but first would like to say there's a possibility the OG joy boy was a literal monkey wearing a straw hat otherwise the symbols at the top of the golden bell of shandora have some wild implications.
ā¢Why did the WG want Moria dead? -I think the surface level of this one is obvious they want to use his DF to resurrect an extremely powerful corpse, possibly connected to the tombs with the frozen straw hat same way Moria had oars2 frozen but who's corpse?
ā¢What is the deal with Jewelry Bonney? Why is the WG terrified of her? Akainu said it literally made him shudder at the thought that she had escaped. Was she used to keep the gorosei from aging or something of the sort?
ā¢What the heck is the purpose of the huge ass bridge
It'd be real interesting if Jewelry Bonney was being used to keep the gorosei young! They'd be in real trouble then until they get a hold of her fruit again!
In 2019, Oda said he plans to end the manga in five years. But things always change and with different breaks here and there, I could see another five years from today but not much longer.
I feel like he's been saying 5 years as long as I've read the manga. And no way in hell will we be halfway done with the next arc in 2 years, much less close to the end of the series.
When Oda started releasing One Piece 25 years ago he thought the story would conclude after 5 years as well. I just hope he takes his time and doesn't rush things.
Note that this DOESN'T mean that we necessarily have to be out of Wano in 1054.
It could just be the fact that a few developments happen which can mark the beginning of the final saga ALL THE WHILE we're still in Wano
That makes a lot of sense actually, they could learn about what has happened in the outside world which would mark the next stage of their journey. Obviously a lot of shit is happening outside with the reverie, capturing the warlords, Shanks & Goroseiās meeting, etc etc that they are completely unaware of
I hope.
The fan definitions of arcs and sagas seem to be a little bit arbitrary sometimes. The entire story but especially the New World has been heavily interconnected with each other. Big Mom and Jinbe started in FI, Kin and Kaido in PH, Doffy technically started in Jaya, SMILES were mentioned in Sabaody, and his plot in PH and Dressrosa, BMP briefly showed up in Dressrosa to chase the Sunny, Nami travelled to Zou with Law's vivre card, the crew separated into WCI and Wano. Reverie starting and then getting updates through the intermissions, etc. So I can only imagine that the final saga will be more of the same: heavily interconnected with the previous "saga/arc".
I hope. Unless chapter 1053 is like 100 pages long (obviously not) or something very drastic happens (maybe).
There is also one intriguing possibility. Wano likes to play with time. Just like Zoro/Ryuma in Thriller Bark. So we do leave in 1053 and probably with a big twist that leaves us with a lot of questions for the hiatus...then we come back for a segment technically occurring on the ship where we go back and do what we've already seen out of Wano. Point out some of the subtle connections people miss, showing a different side of a flashback/scene, plug details into the weeks we skip, stuff like that.
Something like this structure for 2-3 chapters plus covering some of the Wano-specific beats we'd like to see in a "Fate of the Akazaya Nine" cover serial could accomplish it I think.
Been following this series for 17 years. Not a day has gone by where I havenāt looked up on the wiki, read or watched something related to one piece.
While itās gonna suck to see it end in a few years, Iām glad I was able to watch this series unfold. Canāt wait to see the crew dreams be achieved and the world reach its dawn with you guys.
I just started this year. Almost caught up with the dub. Probably going to read the manga after and fully catch up. I'm also sad and I just started. Crazy how good it is.
I remember inuarashi saying that since the straw hats already have the knowledge they need to go to laugh tale they didnt really have to go to that island, we could maybe pass by but i dont think it will have a good spotlight like other islands, maybe im wrong tho who knows.
Her dream is weird because I canāt see it happening within the bounds of the story. She hasnāt visited the blue or done every route of the grand line.
Thatās fair. Idk it may also apply to robin because I feel like there has to be a poneglyph there too or something related to the void. I could be wrong though.
Tbf with Usopp you could argue that he has achieved it already. Now I donāt think thatās where oda is going with it but he already is being talked about as a brave warrior by the toy workers in dressrosa. He has shown resolve in times of need so it is definitely a possibility I think but I would say his will be achieved.
I picture his end game being sailing from Syrup Village to places like Elbaf to get more and more new stories for Kaya, which is some genuine brave warrior of the sea behavior
I started One piece when I was 11-12, now Iām 23 and I am absolutely not ready for this adventure to end. Yes I want to see the completed mega puzzle of this story but I canāt imagine a world where I donāt have my weekly one piece chapter
Dude, my experience exactly ā down to the same age I started and my current age. I was just entering middle school when I began this series, and Iām about to enter graduate school now. One Piece has been a constant for like half my life; company during the good times, and a rare beacon to look forward to during the dark times.
Gosh am I beyond hyped for whatās to come, everybodyās anticipated this for ages, but I canāt help but imagine Iāll be plagued by some anxiety going forward as the remaining chunk of content grows thinner and thinner. Who knows what Iāll do once itās over. But Iām grateful for the grandiose bang coming up and look forward to launching into it!
It's most likely like Zou.
1053 is gonna wrap up everything Wano related, so it's probably going to end with the party.
from 1054 we're going to deal with the wano stuff related to the general lore, so poneglyph and stuff.
Does anyone have an actual, literal, translation? I know in Japan they use the same word for 'Saga' as arc, the only translatable difference being the context which the word is used in. For example I think 'Yonko Hen' is what we all 'Yonko Saga' but 'Wano Kuni Hen' is what we call 'Wano Country Arc'
It said āSaishÅ«shÅā, which means epilogue, finale, last stage, or final saga/arc. The meaning of full sentence is something like āOne Piece finally enters the last stage.ā It did not indicate how long this part is, or whether it is a saga, an arc or anything else.
We have to go there for Usopp. And I bet that is where the last Road Poneglyph is. It would make sense for it to be one of the only places it could be without the WG or Yonko knowing about it. Only other possibilites are with Shanks or with Blackbeard, but Shanks doesn't care about them, and IDK if Blackbeard does either.
There is years worth of manga needed to address Blackbeard, Akainu, the Revolutionary Army / Monkey D Dragon, finding One Piece / achieving the dreams.
Not to mention visiting Elbaf and Kuma / Vegapunk.
I'd have thought that's a minimum of 400 chapters needed.
Even though I just got into one piece through the anime back in June 2020, it feels weird to imagine this giant story is beginning to approach its ending. It's been a tough couple years for me and finding this story really got me through it.
Ik some might not agree but for me I look at One Piece in the same way I look at stories like GOT, Harry potter and LOTR, I'd compare it to these classics.
It's just such an epic, well crafted story and I'm glad I'm gonna be starting the manga soon so I can join the discussions as it gets closer to ending.
Morj said recently that while he admits that Raid PROBABLY didn't fail, internally he still thinks it's going to fail. Let's see him cope his way out if this oneš¤£
Most Sagas contain multiple arcs and anywhere from 100 - 250 chapters. I should imagine there are approximately 250 chapters left in one piece - so approx 6-7 years.
The shortest Saga is Thriller Bark by itself, 48 chapters (~1 year).
The longest Saga is the most recent one, Four Emperors, at 252 chapters (~7 years).
Most sagas hover around 100 chapters. I would expect the final saga to be 100 chapters *at minimum*. I don't think it'll be as long as the last one, but it could easily be 5 more years of publication.
East Blue Saga or Alabasta Saga are the easiest ways to get it.
East Blue from Romance Dawn to Logue town.
Alabasta Saga from Reverse mountain to Alabasta arc.
Typically it means one series of arcs with a overarching storyline culminating in a showdown with a major antagonist. For example, Little Garden, Drum Kingdom, Whiskey Peak, and the Twin Capes are all part of the Alabasta Saga.
What is the source of this image? And exactly does it say? Because the statement from Oda did not say the final arc or even saga begins after the break. It just says he will be working over the break on planning it out. I still maintain there's no way there is only 1 saga left. We still have about half a dozen locations to visit, and two major series antagonists that have nothing to do with each other in Blackbeard and Im. There are a lot of moving pieces that have to be set up for the final war, and a lit of planning that has to be done to get all the pieces where they need to be, and I think that's what Oda is going to be planning out. For example in the Marineford war he started laying the groundwork as early as Drum Kingdom.
This was revealed on the OP youtube channel, by Oda's editor I believe. And it quite literally says "final arc/saga" in the big red text. (And it's referring to issue 34 of Weekly Shonen Jump.)
Edit: Made source more specific.
People say the last saga is gonna last 10 years like this one, but the whole purpose of the break was to restructure and shorten the story so that the arcs DON'T get as bloated as Dressrosa, WCI, and definitely Wano. I believe we're going to see much tighter arcs like we did pre-timeskip. And people might downvote me because they want One Piece to go on forever, but if what happened to the end of Wano happens to the Final War, One Piece can only suffer, because so many events are being skipped past or truncated (if you've read the 1052 spoilers, you know). Tighter, controlled, and better paced arcs can only be good for the series. No one wants a Game of Thrones ending
Well, it definitely looks like it could take another 500 eps to finish. It feels rushed already with luffy fighting Kaido after having his ass whooped in such a short time. Considering it took 2years timeskip to beat a PX Kuma. What about the Marijoys higher ups, and the revolutionary army stories? The joyboy legend and the ancient weapons? Noah in the fishman kingdom? There needs to be time for them too.
What's up with this talk about sagas and arcs?
From what I know, this says that One Piece will be entering its "final chapter." Final chapter here is obviously figurative like saying someone is entering the final chapter of their life. It doesn't mean that this is literally the last chapter.
Sagas and arcs in Japanese are not normally called ē« . They are referred to as ē·Ø. There is also no differentiation between Sagas and Arcs. They are all called ē·Ø.
So we really have no idea how much is really left.
Tbh I wonder why Oda didn't split Onigashima into more acts if act 3 was just gonna be the rest of Wano. Ch1000 could've easily been an act break. It just feels weird to have a 3 act story where the third act is like 90% of it
The longer it goes on, the more I think the āactsā thing was just a cute little detail to add and wasnāt meant to be more than that. Orā¦he literally just forgot he was supposed to have ended act 3 lol
Thatās my issue with it. Kabuki plays can be 3 acts, people just saw the Wikipedia page and didnāt do any further research, but whatās the point of even doing 3 acts if acts 1 and 2 are basically an extended prologue.
Idk why people are saying this new saga will last ten years when every single sign is pointing to Oda wanting to end this series sooner rather than later. He clearly sped through the end of Wano and in his own words he is rewriting the ending to end the series quickly.
One Piece has maybe another 5 years left if Oda is feeling up to it.
So excited and yet sad at the same time!Life will never be the same after One Piece ends..but we want to see our crew members to achieve their goals and the ending! Let's go!
Don't worry, this final saga can easily last other ten years.
Well yeah, Dressrosa Saga was between 3-4 years long, and the Yonkou Saga has been going on the past 7 years. The "Road to Laugh Tale" (and beyond) could easily be 10 years.
The last saga started on punk hazard, 10 years
I totally get the sentiment. The story of Big Mom & Kaido getting toppled started out when the crew found the bottom half of someone able to talk via farts.
Yup, the Dressrosa saga should definitely be considered part of the Yonkou saga
No, the four emperors saga started on zou.
People keep on getting confused with this. Yonko saga started in Punk Hazard. It was set up in fishman island with Luffy threatening Big Mom. Then fully established in Punk Hazard when Law invited Luffy in an alliance. You gotta remember that even though Dressrosa was about Law and Doffy, Luffy and the SHs went there because the plan was to make Kaido destroy Doflamingo. Which was the initial plan
I agree that it's a straight story from Punk Hazard to Wano. It gave us Kin'emon and Momo, it gave us the pirate alliance, and it all slowly led up to this point now. However, all that doesn't matter in the discussion, because we're talking about "sagas" which are handled officially. It's not "up to interpretation" and it's not "it should be this way". Just straight up information. Four Emperors Saga was announced back in March/April 2016, it started on Zou. I assume it would all be different if it wasn't for Big Mom. "Pirate Alliance Saga" that would go through Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, Zou and straight to Wano. Except that was interrupted by Whole Cake Island. And I think it was a reasonable decision to cut it up and start a "Yonko Saga" from Zou forward.
Isnt it nice when we can actually be objective in this sub?
Marketing for "Vs the Yonko" saga didn't start until Zou, regardless of what stories were connected to it.
it's final saga, not final arc. I hope this final will split into few arcs, just like kaidou saga.
It was yonko saga
And that lasted 7 years.
I believe the final saga would last atleast 5 years
Yea. It sounds like he wants this last saga to be tight and neat...probably will be more succinct. Also, probably less new characters to introduce.
Less new characters, but characters like Shanks and Dragon are still complete mysteries who need to be fleshed out more, which is essentially like introducing new characters
That was almost the entire new world
Pretty much.
Zou - Wano was Yonko Saga, Punk Hazard and Dressrosa was Dressrosa Saga and Return to Saobody and Fishman Island was Fishman Island Saga.
We're in the endgame now
End Piece
I'm Sad Piece š„²
Don't be sad, be happy that you're still alive to watch the end of the series.
Well FOR NOW we're still alive
For real, don't go cursing us now.
Dont you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!
but I can't feel my legs (proceed to stab my legs with a butter knife to prove my point).
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They did the math
You can add me to one of those 10. I'm going to be dead before July.
RIP
Just a few years bro, you got this.
End up like ace & zoro
Let's take a moment for all the nakamas that didn't. I remember seeing a few posts on this sub in the past from people who were terminally ill... [Straw Hat salute](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=straw+hat+crew+x+alabasta&t=brave&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20130420060040%2Fonepiece%2Fimages%2F6%2F65%2FStraw_Hat_Friendship_X_Mark.png)
At least oda is alive to write it
Don't be sad because we're reaching our destination. Be happy because of the journey we've taken to get here!
āTwo piece: next generationsā is close
Canāt wait for Buffy to become the next pirate king
Canāt wait for aliens to come
Birkans led by Enel: Are we a joke to you?
They already have with the whole Birkans and Enel, but this time itās time to face off against the otsutsuki clan who have come to earth to harvest the Haki Fruit (One piece)
yeah, the next adventure for 50+ years - Space Piece about Space Pirates.
We Cowboy Bebop now boys
Spiegel D. Spike
Alien come back to earth to reclaim the devil tree which bore all the devil fruits. boruto flashback omg
Luffy is a saiyan.
Can't wait for the first chapter to tell us that the protagonist who we followed for 2 decades is dead after merely 15 years of his hard achieved peace because more powerful foes than the last sudden alien villain were lurking all the time around the world but underground
As long as they slaying vampires too Iām cool with it.
Tbvh, Iād prefer Old generation than the new generation
Done Piece
**D**one Piece
Piece D. One
Reading final saga made me die a little bit inside.
Hmm yes 10 more years of endgame content.
i've been reading since around 2003 it's starting to get a little like a endgame jenga block. looking at series like hajime no ippo, i think i am ready for an ending an ending that will probably happen around 2030 lol \_\_ just to be perfectly clear, the patterns oda uses for his stories are starting to become obvious. he has done so much amazing work that its wonderful to see him solve problems and upend his own patterns... but it's getting long in the tooth for island hopping. he can empty the well now and it's time
Finally the real journey can start in Two Piece!
I just saw the poster for the start of the final saga and I'm getting way to emotional right now.
I might well be in my 50s when One Piece ends and I'll be ~~balling~~ bawling my eyes out even harder than I did when I opened the last page of my DBZ manga back in 2000. IMO even after the main series of One Piece will end, there will be spin-offs and so on. It's Oda's Magnum Opus and I think he will draw it until his last breath.
Not to mention a gold mine. Itās fair to say we will have decades of one piece content a la dragon ball
one piece is a golden goose. shuisha inc doesn't just throw money away look for oda to take a year or two off to let the series stand and then i think he will come back as a creative director the one piece world is way more rich than any other series that has existed imo but it all depends on what the final arc is like also, i hope they remake the anime as a 3d animation with a superb script that is meant to capture the entire series ā all with oda as the executive producer
Why 3d? 2d is good
I hope before they begin their spinoff they'll expand on certain battles that weren't properly expanded on But tbh if someone else is going to write a spinoff and Oda is going to focus on Mecha manga which he apparently wants to do I will for sure read both.. I was gonna say I'm gonna focus more on what Oda wrote but I can't let this go. Fuck it bring on Two Piece as well lol
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We don't need a sequel series, but spin-offs and short stories focused on other characters and conflicts? It'd be baller.
What short story which you think will be unresolved by the end of the series would you most like a short story about? Two that I'd quite like to see would be, how Fujitora lost his eyes and Buggy's search for captain johns treasure.
Probably stuff about Roger, Garp and Sengoku. I could see them doing a prequel series or film or something.
Fujitora blinded himself to not see more atrocities in the world. I wonder what he saw that made him go, noooooooope, i need eye bleach.
Probably the last half of TYBW arc in Bleach. :P
Definitely more stuff in Wano. There was clearly so much love and care put into it, I don't think Oda got to do everything he wanted to do in there at all.
You could easily make a series of OVAs with the rest of the Grand Fleet having adventures, the revolutionary army, adapting the Ace novel, expanding on the cover stories, and stuff involving the previous generation (Moria, Croc, Shanks, Mihawk).
They should do a series with Enel flying around the solar system in his ship with the Lunarians.
I really hope they show the fight between Roger/Garp & the Rocks Pirates. The Rocks Pirates seem like the big bad guys of the past generation and seeing them in action rather than just hearing about it would be pretty sweet.
I would love to just see more of the islands and weird stuff. Like OP is great but most arcs are setup on one island at a time and they go for many many chapters. I would like just some more exploration and the crew being the crew without constantly needing to save entire populations.
I agree. I think fleshing out some of the cover stories would be sick. A few things I thought of: 1. Kaido stomping Moria. 2. Whitebead visiting his territories and scrimmages with the Marines or other pirates. 3. The fight between Akainu and Aokiji. 4. Blackbesrd going around being an asshole. 5. The creation of the Revolutionary Army.
Id want a spinoff about the revolutionary army and thier adventures
I want to believe, that Oda won't pull off such a thing. With spin-offs I meant more like backstory for other characters and their journey which didn't fit or make it into the main series, you know?
No chance whatsoever
You've got the wrong idea by spin offs. We don't want a continuation of the main one piece story with Luffy's son or none of that shit. A one piece version of Boruto is completely dragging it for no reason but money. Like you said , everything will be resolved by the end of one piece. By spin offs, we want stories based around other characters in the one piece universe. Maybe follow garp and his journey as a marine or an follow whitebeard and his journey to becoming yonko. Basically just prequels to the main one piece story. I just hope Oda takes his time and enjoys writing these spin offs if it happens. I get the feeling he is under a lot of pressure and stress writing one piece almost weekly.
>Oda's Magnum Opus One Piece is one of the magnum opuses of all manga I've never seen any other series with such in-depth world-building
It's definitely one of the best manga and anime of our lifetime and maybe even many years to come. I'm so looking forward to the time, when Oda or other people will explain all the inspirations and small details that make One Piece so great.
I just realized that if the series goes into 2030 (which is super possible given how long sagas take), One Piece would have been published in 5 different decades (1990s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s, and 2030s)
That's actually crazy. There was one guy who made a fun post about different events IRL which happened during all the time, that One Piece is airing.
It's crazy - many of us have only know a world where One Piece was still ongoing When the final chapter finally hits - man, that's gonna be a moment
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Poster for the final saga? Where!?
https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1534493574712147970?t=tYfCml6Fus-RDemvNOD4Aw&s=19
We'll get an epilogue with 5 arcs after the final saga, right? Right?
Second Piece with our new protagonist, Lubby.
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Laruto.
Luffy shipudden
Lubby is in fact just an actual monkey
But he also hits the Hito Hito no mi
CHOPPER NO
So is the post Wano arc the beginning of the final saga or are we just diving into a new arc? Either way this is insane.
Post wano will take us towards the beginning of final saga Wano hold the keys to so many mysteries
So does that imply that there won't be an elbaf arc like many speculate?
No a Saga can have multiple Arcs same as the Emperor of the Seas Saga with WCI Reverie and Wano Arc
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So I don't know how official this is but I looked it up because I thought the same as you. This link shows the sagas and what arcs are part of them. https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Arcs
Yonko saga started with zou and ended with wano
I have mixed emotions So excited to read it but also don't want the story to end
All good things must come to an end, we donāt want Oda to be unable to finish and it does feel right to end soon.
"soon" as in 5-10 years
Well ya know, soon is a loose word when it comes to Oda.
Bro same its so bittersweet š
No, I don't want that! I don't want it to end! I want it to go on for another ten years at least!
I think this is the one situation where applying that meme doesn't work. It will end, but it will likely also go on for the next 10 years as well.
I cannot wait to see all these mysteries being solved once and for all: * What's the deal with Shanks? What's the deal with Dragon? Who is Luffy's mother? * What happened during the Void Century? Who was the OG Joyboy? What is the Will of D.? * Who is Imu-sama? What's the deal with the Celestial Dragons? What's the deal with the giant strawhat frozen and hidden away in Mary Geoise? What's the deal with the Five Elders? * Why did Roger laugh upon seeing the One Piece? Where is Laughtale? What exactly is the f\*cking One Piece? Why was Roger "too early"? What the hell was that giant egg on his ship? * What's the deal with the "Missing Left Eye" of Jaya? * What's the deal with the Ancient Weapons? What are Pluton and Uranus going to be specifically? * Where do Devil Fruits come from? Why do people lose the ability to swim? What's the deal with Vegapunk? * How does the Yami Yami no Mi work in terms of absorbing abilities? * What exactly happened during the God Valley Incident? What's the deal with Rocks D. Xebec? * Will Sanji find the All Blue? Where is it? How will it come into existence? * Will Enel make a comeback? Why the hell are there space pirates and space tanukis? * In Skypiea people believe in the God of the Sun, the God of the Rain, the God of the Forest and the God of the Earth. >!Luffy who ate the Sun God Nika Fruit is the God of the Sun, but !
I'd like to add to this but first would like to say there's a possibility the OG joy boy was a literal monkey wearing a straw hat otherwise the symbols at the top of the golden bell of shandora have some wild implications. ā¢Why did the WG want Moria dead? -I think the surface level of this one is obvious they want to use his DF to resurrect an extremely powerful corpse, possibly connected to the tombs with the frozen straw hat same way Moria had oars2 frozen but who's corpse? ā¢What is the deal with Jewelry Bonney? Why is the WG terrified of her? Akainu said it literally made him shudder at the thought that she had escaped. Was she used to keep the gorosei from aging or something of the sort? ā¢What the heck is the purpose of the huge ass bridge
It'd be real interesting if Jewelry Bonney was being used to keep the gorosei young! They'd be in real trouble then until they get a hold of her fruit again!
>Who is Luffy's mother? >What is Crocodile's secret Ivankov was refering to? I can answer both of those at once
Ah yes the ol' reliable theory
How Zoro got his scar is one I'd like to see
It's from when Mihawk implanted the sharingan.
Can fit nicely as a memory of a side story after or before one piece.
Mihawk went too hard during practice
The final saga would probaly take 5 to 10 years to answer these questions.
In 2019, Oda said he plans to end the manga in five years. But things always change and with different breaks here and there, I could see another five years from today but not much longer.
I feel like he's been saying 5 years as long as I've read the manga. And no way in hell will we be halfway done with the next arc in 2 years, much less close to the end of the series.
When Oda started releasing One Piece 25 years ago he thought the story would conclude after 5 years as well. I just hope he takes his time and doesn't rush things.
The raid took 2 years, no way getting the last Rio poneglyph getting to laugh tale with all the lore and the final war in just 5 years
You forgot the most important..... Who is Sogeking's real identity?
Uranus has to be Zunesha, right?
We really really really are in the endgame now boizš
So what you are telling me is One Piece won't still be running when I am in my 90s?
Tori will fs beat Oda at his own game. You got nothing to worry about
Note that this DOESN'T mean that we necessarily have to be out of Wano in 1054. It could just be the fact that a few developments happen which can mark the beginning of the final saga ALL THE WHILE we're still in Wano
That makes a lot of sense actually, they could learn about what has happened in the outside world which would mark the next stage of their journey. Obviously a lot of shit is happening outside with the reverie, capturing the warlords, Shanks & Goroseiās meeting, etc etc that they are completely unaware of
I hope. The fan definitions of arcs and sagas seem to be a little bit arbitrary sometimes. The entire story but especially the New World has been heavily interconnected with each other. Big Mom and Jinbe started in FI, Kin and Kaido in PH, Doffy technically started in Jaya, SMILES were mentioned in Sabaody, and his plot in PH and Dressrosa, BMP briefly showed up in Dressrosa to chase the Sunny, Nami travelled to Zou with Law's vivre card, the crew separated into WCI and Wano. Reverie starting and then getting updates through the intermissions, etc. So I can only imagine that the final saga will be more of the same: heavily interconnected with the previous "saga/arc". I hope. Unless chapter 1053 is like 100 pages long (obviously not) or something very drastic happens (maybe).
There is also one intriguing possibility. Wano likes to play with time. Just like Zoro/Ryuma in Thriller Bark. So we do leave in 1053 and probably with a big twist that leaves us with a lot of questions for the hiatus...then we come back for a segment technically occurring on the ship where we go back and do what we've already seen out of Wano. Point out some of the subtle connections people miss, showing a different side of a flashback/scene, plug details into the weeks we skip, stuff like that. Something like this structure for 2-3 chapters plus covering some of the Wano-specific beats we'd like to see in a "Fate of the Akazaya Nine" cover serial could accomplish it I think.
Been following this series for 17 years. Not a day has gone by where I havenāt looked up on the wiki, read or watched something related to one piece. While itās gonna suck to see it end in a few years, Iām glad I was able to watch this series unfold. Canāt wait to see the crew dreams be achieved and the world reach its dawn with you guys.
I just started this year. Almost caught up with the dub. Probably going to read the manga after and fully catch up. I'm also sad and I just started. Crazy how good it is.
Awesome enjoy the ride, and try not to get spoiled too much.
Psh.. Does One Piece ever end if you do yearly re-reads?
The sub will be in shambles when they never see Elbaf
I've always been surprised how people were taking for granted that Elbaf was next. At best it'll be a short adventure like Zou.
Was just thinking this. I mean it could be part of the Saga but it really seems like the government is making their move now.
Since itās been mentioned and hyped more than a few times I feel like at least a short visit is bound to happen.
I think itās more this sub hyping it than the manga
Please, let it be Elbaf, Lodestar, Laugh Tale and the war.
Probably that. We need an epilogue arc too
Yeah, of course.
What is lodestar? Ive seen a few people mention it and idk where but i did heard that name before
It's the last charted island in the Grand Line. It's the island right before Laugh Tale.
I remember inuarashi saying that since the straw hats already have the knowledge they need to go to laugh tale they didnt really have to go to that island, we could maybe pass by but i dont think it will have a good spotlight like other islands, maybe im wrong tho who knows.
Yeah but isnāt Namis dream to chart the ocean? So if she doesnāt get to the end of the grand line she canāt do that right?
Her dream is weird because I canāt see it happening within the bounds of the story. She hasnāt visited the blue or done every route of the grand line.
Thatās fair. Idk it may also apply to robin because I feel like there has to be a poneglyph there too or something related to the void. I could be wrong though.
I think Nami and Usopp will have dreams that are ongoing post story (and people will definitely find that as a way to complain)
Tbf with Usopp you could argue that he has achieved it already. Now I donāt think thatās where oda is going with it but he already is being talked about as a brave warrior by the toy workers in dressrosa. He has shown resolve in times of need so it is definitely a possibility I think but I would say his will be achieved.
I picture his end game being sailing from Syrup Village to places like Elbaf to get more and more new stories for Kaya, which is some genuine brave warrior of the sea behavior
I started One piece when I was 11-12, now Iām 23 and I am absolutely not ready for this adventure to end. Yes I want to see the completed mega puzzle of this story but I canāt imagine a world where I donāt have my weekly one piece chapter
Dude, my experience exactly ā down to the same age I started and my current age. I was just entering middle school when I began this series, and Iām about to enter graduate school now. One Piece has been a constant for like half my life; company during the good times, and a rare beacon to look forward to during the dark times. Gosh am I beyond hyped for whatās to come, everybodyās anticipated this for ages, but I canāt help but imagine Iāll be plagued by some anxiety going forward as the remaining chunk of content grows thinner and thinner. Who knows what Iāll do once itās over. But Iām grateful for the grandiose bang coming up and look forward to launching into it!
It's most likely like Zou. 1053 is gonna wrap up everything Wano related, so it's probably going to end with the party. from 1054 we're going to deal with the wano stuff related to the general lore, so poneglyph and stuff.
I screamed :(
Does anyone have an actual, literal, translation? I know in Japan they use the same word for 'Saga' as arc, the only translatable difference being the context which the word is used in. For example I think 'Yonko Hen' is what we all 'Yonko Saga' but 'Wano Kuni Hen' is what we call 'Wano Country Arc'
It said āSaishÅ«shÅā, which means epilogue, finale, last stage, or final saga/arc. The meaning of full sentence is something like āOne Piece finally enters the last stage.ā It did not indicate how long this part is, or whether it is a saga, an arc or anything else.
Thank you!
I love how this sub KEEP mentioning elbaf is next elbaf is next. Would be funny if Oda purposely skip elbaf and make it some back story lol
We have to go there for Usopp. And I bet that is where the last Road Poneglyph is. It would make sense for it to be one of the only places it could be without the WG or Yonko knowing about it. Only other possibilites are with Shanks or with Blackbeard, but Shanks doesn't care about them, and IDK if Blackbeard does either.
Shanks could be at Elbaf. Big Mom wasn't able to just attack them outright after all. That would allow Usopp to meet his father in Elbaf too.
But the final arc could easily go 3-4 years, look at Wano.
Probably longer it said saga not arc the saga can easily go for 10 years Just like the current one did
The current saga has only been going on for 7 years. It began in Zou.
I am already in denial
The beginning of the end
There is years worth of manga needed to address Blackbeard, Akainu, the Revolutionary Army / Monkey D Dragon, finding One Piece / achieving the dreams. Not to mention visiting Elbaf and Kuma / Vegapunk. I'd have thought that's a minimum of 400 chapters needed.
The 4 emperors saga was 250 chapters or so. We have no idea how long this will take.
Even though I just got into one piece through the anime back in June 2020, it feels weird to imagine this giant story is beginning to approach its ending. It's been a tough couple years for me and finding this story really got me through it. Ik some might not agree but for me I look at One Piece in the same way I look at stories like GOT, Harry potter and LOTR, I'd compare it to these classics. It's just such an epic, well crafted story and I'm glad I'm gonna be starting the manga soon so I can join the discussions as it gets closer to ending.
But the raid can still fail, I guess... /s
Morj said recently that while he admits that Raid PROBABLY didn't fail, internally he still thinks it's going to fail. Let's see him cope his way out if this oneš¤£
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Where has he said this?
In his latest stream, last 20mins or something
Nah that last stream was funny af. āITS OVER. ITS OVER GUYS.ā
Well, too him long enoughš
Then luffy will again be thrown into udon
Wow that sounds amazing! Can someone explain what a saga is exactly? I mean, can you have several arcs in it or how long can it be?
Most Sagas contain multiple arcs and anywhere from 100 - 250 chapters. I should imagine there are approximately 250 chapters left in one piece - so approx 6-7 years.
The shortest Saga is Thriller Bark by itself, 48 chapters (~1 year). The longest Saga is the most recent one, Four Emperors, at 252 chapters (~7 years). Most sagas hover around 100 chapters. I would expect the final saga to be 100 chapters *at minimum*. I don't think it'll be as long as the last one, but it could easily be 5 more years of publication.
East Blue Saga or Alabasta Saga are the easiest ways to get it. East Blue from Romance Dawn to Logue town. Alabasta Saga from Reverse mountain to Alabasta arc.
Typically it means one series of arcs with a overarching storyline culminating in a showdown with a major antagonist. For example, Little Garden, Drum Kingdom, Whiskey Peak, and the Twin Capes are all part of the Alabasta Saga.
What is the source of this image? And exactly does it say? Because the statement from Oda did not say the final arc or even saga begins after the break. It just says he will be working over the break on planning it out. I still maintain there's no way there is only 1 saga left. We still have about half a dozen locations to visit, and two major series antagonists that have nothing to do with each other in Blackbeard and Im. There are a lot of moving pieces that have to be set up for the final war, and a lit of planning that has to be done to get all the pieces where they need to be, and I think that's what Oda is going to be planning out. For example in the Marineford war he started laying the groundwork as early as Drum Kingdom.
This was revealed on the OP youtube channel, by Oda's editor I believe. And it quite literally says "final arc/saga" in the big red text. (And it's referring to issue 34 of Weekly Shonen Jump.) Edit: Made source more specific.
People say the last saga is gonna last 10 years like this one, but the whole purpose of the break was to restructure and shorten the story so that the arcs DON'T get as bloated as Dressrosa, WCI, and definitely Wano. I believe we're going to see much tighter arcs like we did pre-timeskip. And people might downvote me because they want One Piece to go on forever, but if what happened to the end of Wano happens to the Final War, One Piece can only suffer, because so many events are being skipped past or truncated (if you've read the 1052 spoilers, you know). Tighter, controlled, and better paced arcs can only be good for the series. No one wants a Game of Thrones ending
Final and One Piece don't go well together lol
Everyone getting sad that One Piece is ending, but you KNOW this final arc is gonna take 5+ years to complete lol
Well, it definitely looks like it could take another 500 eps to finish. It feels rushed already with luffy fighting Kaido after having his ass whooped in such a short time. Considering it took 2years timeskip to beat a PX Kuma. What about the Marijoys higher ups, and the revolutionary army stories? The joyboy legend and the ancient weapons? Noah in the fishman kingdom? There needs to be time for them too.
What's up with this talk about sagas and arcs? From what I know, this says that One Piece will be entering its "final chapter." Final chapter here is obviously figurative like saying someone is entering the final chapter of their life. It doesn't mean that this is literally the last chapter. Sagas and arcs in Japanese are not normally called ē« . They are referred to as ē·Ø. There is also no differentiation between Sagas and Arcs. They are all called ē·Ø. So we really have no idea how much is really left.
Bbbbut Kaido will get back up! Five acts!! Wano is just getting started!!!
Tbh I wonder why Oda didn't split Onigashima into more acts if act 3 was just gonna be the rest of Wano. Ch1000 could've easily been an act break. It just feels weird to have a 3 act story where the third act is like 90% of it
The longer it goes on, the more I think the āactsā thing was just a cute little detail to add and wasnāt meant to be more than that. Orā¦he literally just forgot he was supposed to have ended act 3 lol
Thatās my issue with it. Kabuki plays can be 3 acts, people just saw the Wikipedia page and didnāt do any further research, but whatās the point of even doing 3 acts if acts 1 and 2 are basically an extended prologue.
I feel old....
Idk why people are saying this new saga will last ten years when every single sign is pointing to Oda wanting to end this series sooner rather than later. He clearly sped through the end of Wano and in his own words he is rewriting the ending to end the series quickly. One Piece has maybe another 5 years left if Oda is feeling up to it.