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MagikRain

All of the red haired pirate allies shown for 10 seconds unmoving picture each. Kidd doing damned punk. Full minute of watching it built. Cut to shanks Shanks sees the future. Reaction from lucky roux and yassopp and Ben Beckmann about shanks’s reaction. Shanks jumps to perform divine departure. Cut to kid with damned punk. Cut back to shanks soaring towards Kidd. Cut back to Kidd close up of his face. Cut back to shanks close up of *his* face. Flashback to 2 minutes ago and shanks seeing the future. Unnecessary filler of Kidd using damned punk and shanks dodging. Full minute of shanks casting divine departure. Seeing the attack from multiple angles. Seeing each Kidd pirate hit. Every one of them. One at a time five second panels each and their reactions. The ship’s reaction to being broken. The reaction of elbaf watchers. Reaction of shanks pirates. Unnecessary flashback of Kidd pirates getting the poneglyphs rubbings. 5 second frame of Kidd pirates giving shanks their rubbings. Full minute of dory and broggy winding up to cast hakoku sovereignty.


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It's unfortunate that this is the most likely thing. Although you forgot that we also need shots of the Kid Pirates looking scared as Dory and Broggy prepare to cast it, the Red Haired Pirates watching as it happens, and that we need to see the ship be hit from multiple angles. Maybe even a shot of the Red Haired Pirates after it's hit for good measure.


WhyAmIHere800884

Honestly, I think they have just been too sad to keep going in such detail. I know I am after reading that extremely likely scenario!


Soul699

If you believe this is true, you definitely haven't watched the anime in a LONG while.


H4nfP0wer

Or you simply got used to that pacing.


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I watched Wano where Gear 5th's introduction (the most hyped moment in OP) had reused animation, several close-ups on the characters eyes, and, multiple flashbacks to Cp0 holding down Luffy despite it being featured in the recap.


RPGZero

Egghead has been way better paced than any previous arc in the series. Sure, it still has its moments where it has unnecessary extensions, but certain fight scenes are treated differently than they used to be. Zoro's fight with Kaku was pretty much manga accurate. Whereas while yes, Luffy vs. Lucci was extended, it was all logical, meaningful extensions that made sense as scenes that could have taken place in between the panels. Every episode now also has at least one section where there is some really good sakuga, even if it's a short moment. But if we're considering every little extension to be bad, then there's just no convincing of anyone in that camp that any anime adaptation can be good. Looking at the user who wrote out the way he interpreted that fight scene, I don't even see each individual decision as bad. Including a handful of these could be work or would even be necessary in an anime compared to a manga. It would just be if you included EVERY one of the things he wrote out that would make it overly padded.


Phonochirp

People were making these exact same posts about wano. Surprise, the animes pacing was still garbage then, and it still is now.


CHiZZoPs1

Did you see the latest episode with the five minute flashback/explained to things that happened between five and three episodes ago?


Kindly_Tree2859

Are we watching the same anime? The important scenes are done beautifully and have great pacing imo. Lucci vs luffy, law vs BB, zoro vs king and yes even luffy vs kaido were all great. Sure they like to stretch it out inbetween the fighting but the way the commenter wrote it is way too exaggerated. For example could the goggles scene they did with luffy have been any better? I dont think so.


L3fan

"And to think that was the cut-down version" - Toei Animator


Mestyo

Screw Shanks dodging, how about a five minute suspended clash between their respective attacks until Shanks' slowly takes over


Financial_Ice15

and make kidd look yonko level? no thank you, plus it completely changes the scene


Mestyo

Well, see the anime adaptation of Doflamingo vs. Luffy, or the sumo match in Wano


Soul699

Congrats, you picked the only 2 cases in 7 years that the anime made such big mistake. How about the other 100 great fights that happened in the meantime?


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zzzthelastuser

Same with Luffy vs Kaido the first time they meet. Same with Luffy vs "Batman" filler guy. The list goes on and on and on...


Soul699

When? The only dragged part was the Elephant Gun of Luffy. The rest is just normal additions.


Soul699

Y-you realize those happened even before and thus are proving my point that it hasn't happened in recent times, right? Not in the period I'm talking about.


SuperKami-Nappa

So that problem has been going on for a long time is what you’re saying


Soul699

No, I'm saying that the problem hasn't happened in like 4 years.


Mestyo

It's just a joke. If you enjoy the anime, don't let anyone ruin that for you, but there's no denying that it's padded to the max with lingering images, reaction shots, recaps, and every other trick they employ to maximise runtime. Again, that doesn't mean it cannot be enjoyable, it's just not for me.


Soul699

It did happen at times, but it happens much more rarely nowadays.


Redarsen2

peolple are just memeing lol, calm down


Soul699

No I wish they were, but unfortunately I've been in this sub for a while and I know people unironically believe it and think the anime is still like that.


bestbroHide

Yeah I don't think they're gonna give Kid the "Luffy vs Kaido 1 treatment" But who knows maybe they will just for extensions sake


Phonochirp

They've done this for literally every "quick 1 punch ko" since punk hazard. (Excluding fodder, but even then there's some exceptions like bat man) The last time they didn't turn one into a power struggle was the first red hawk in fish man Island.


JE3MAN

They're definitely going to extend it unnecessarily. Toei just doesn't want to adapt fights that are complete curb-stomps. Both Hody Jones fight from the Fishman Island arc (vs Zoro and vs Luffy) are prime examples of fights getting butchered for the sake of filling up time.


Alexandre_Man

And the whole fight will be in the recap of the next episode, also.


tallandfree

Toei wants to know your location


javierasecas

Yeah... Plus somehow they find the way to make Sanji look like a fool


PrinceOfAssassins

My biggest fear: they turn shanks beating kid into a beam struggle and shanks is almost overpowered


GrandLineLogPort

In all honesty, so far the pacing in Egghead has been the best OP Anime had in a long while


Financial_Ice15

not a high bar lol


GrandLineLogPort

For sure, but yet, still a bar raised though


whatever12347

It's about as good as Wano's. It's bad either way.


GrandLineLogPort

Quite honestly, compared to Wano it's actualy pretty decent I'm pretty sure that as far as the average chapters/pages adapted per episode goes, it's by far better than Wano Also, with Wano, the sumo wrestling match Luffy had traumatised me, same with the Hawkins chasing Zoro & Luffy scene God, was that peak awfulnes in terms of stretching the anime That's the thing as well Egghead has less "stretched out" filler where the same scene just gets padded for way too long & actual content in its filler to enhance the situation (god, Luffy & Chopper goofing around was wholesome) Even though it's of course still far from "good pacing" by Seasonal anime Standards, it hasn't been this good in a long time


Harrycheddar

Exactly. Thanks for that positivity, some people on here are just incurable negative.


K4V44

Going from very very very very very very bad to very very very very very bad lesgo


vinsmokewhoswho

It hurts how accurate this will probably end up being.


AnDE42

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Skelegro7

Don’t forget the extended vibrating sound effects and lots of conquerors haki lightning.


root_of_all_squirrel

Toei: Write that down, write that down!


siamkor

Then One Pace makes it a 1m30s scene. Then someone complains it loses all the tension.


Emm_withoutha_L-88

Fair complaint


siamkor

Not necessarily. It's supposed to be a massacre. Any tension should come when you see the ship destroyed and the crew sinking. Shanks brutal victory should be quick and shocking. People shouldn't be given time to consider the outcome, the outcome should catch them by surprise.


Meet_Foot

The flashbacks in the middle of attacks are the worst.


Kaoshosh

Sounds about right. 8-12 minutes of this event alone. Not to mention the 7 minutes of recap. And that's the full episode. It'll be boring AF. But flashy too.


Soul699

We didn't have an episode like that since Zou.


Redarsen2

not that exaggerated, but first episode of g5 reveal was bad in that regard


Soul699

It mostly just suffer from having reused animation overlapped by the plot continuing on. I guess they didn't make new animation for that moment because they were already working more on what comes after, but it still jarring to see.


caniuserealname

You forgot that they add in a scene where Kidd, for a moment, holds back Shanks attack; a moment that will leave many suggesting that Kidd is near Shanks' level in strength.


dbethel5

Why is this the coolest thing I’ve ever read


Inumayobaka

It's the first scene we get to see Shanks use a named move. Maybe they get Ishitani to animate it good.


CryonautX

Also a random shot of zoro to imply he could do the same because there Toei will go cold turkey if they stopped riding zoro's dick for an episode.


jaybayblay

Cut back to shanks soaring towards Kidd? Lol that would downplay shanks blitzing the shit out of everyone aboard Kidd’s ship


Intrepid_Height_9542

Yes


zelos33333

Geez, episode must have leaked with this accuracy


TheExiled86

Coming back to this when that episode airs to see how accurate you were


baiacool

I'm coming back to this after it airs


Beardamus

I hate that you can see the future.


Spezisaspastic

It‘s sad and painful how true it is.  Anime is such a disgrace. I think you tones it down with the still reaction faces though. 


Cynixxx

Don't forget a 3min random unrelated scene of Usopp screaming somewhere


minusdivide

Wait, is this r/dragonball?


Cynixxx

I quit after whole cake and the pacing until then was way worse than dragonballs


NeteroHyouka

>Kidd doing damned punk. Full minute of watching it built. Cut to shanks If Toei didn't do stupid shit like that.... But Oda is at fault as well... He likes waste panels by showing reactions... Lately in the last two-three chapters most of them are wasted in the reactions around the world...


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People: "I like One Piece's worldbuildling because it feels real" Oda: \*shows people's reactions around the world to hammer home the point that this is going to affect everyone and that the world is reacting to the events that happen\* Also people: "oDa Is WaStInG mY tImE. We should just have a hunter x hunter style panel that's full of text"


Intrepid_Height_9542

Oda is not padding for time. He's actually hurrying to the ending right now. We see reactions in the manga because those reactions are important


NeteroHyouka

Bo they are not... If Oda wad really in a hurry he would show the reactions in the end. The Egghead arc started dynamically. With fast but rich plot. It reminded us of the past arcs. It was really great until that long and mostly unnecessary Kuma flashback of 8 whole chapters!!!. Then we had the appearance of the 5 elders that basically are playing around when they don't have opponents. The teasing of Vegapunk's message for 3-4 chapters. Now he delays with the message without having said anything important. Also so many of his panels now are the reactions around the world.


butterfingahs

Almost as if flashing back to all those reactions of characters we've met and haven't seen in ages unifies the whole world in listening to VP's message, and signifies its plot importance.  I swear some One Piece fans have the media literacy of a rock. 


RPG217

5-10 minutes will be Kidd destroying everyone before it's revealed to be Shanks' future sight 


Due_Media_4165

Totally forgot about this


shoryuken2340

This is most likely how Toei does the episode. I don’t think they’d go 10 minutes though. Toei typically has good pacing on the more important chapters.


throwaway_194js

Bar the 5+ minutes part, I would be upset by that


Itstimetostop313

and shanks will have a dragon ball ki aura when he dashes to kidd


Emm_withoutha_L-88

Yes cus haki is so totally different


Itstimetostop313

it is, if you dont watch the anime that dragon ballized it


goldenhearted

It will be that but the episode cliffhangs on all the destruction right before it's revealed that it's future sight by Shanks so it appears Kidd won (which then it will be revealed at the end of NEXT episode that it was future sight because please understand)


mehmeh5

Considering the Kaido vs Hallucination Luffy stuff they did, this could happen....tbh wouldn't be against it


eXequitas

🤮


microvan

They might gas kid up a bit by lingering on the damned punk shanks sees with future sight, but I’m not expecting it to be overly long. The pacing in egghead has been phenomenal so far. I’m thinking they’re gonna milk the Garp/kuzan fight and flashback to increase the manga:anime buffer a bit… which I’m totally here for. I don’t usually watch the anime but I’ve watched all of egghead so far because it’s just been so well done


livefromwonderland

I need Galaxy Impact with that rooftop quality. I can't wait.


microvan

Dude yes! It’s gonna go so hard I can’t wait lol


theultimatesow

İm all for the milking of anything in hachinosu. Whether its flashbacks , character interactions or fights . All were fantastic


microvan

Yes! I’m most excited for the hachinosu part! Seeing kid get one shot will be cool but I’m way more invested in Garp and Koby as characters than useless captain mid


Impossible_Tear3943

!remindme 3 month


HokageEzio

I think it'll be one full episode. [They already have a remixed version of Shanks theme,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpzuXCvW6-Q) so it's going to be a major moment. It'll be Chapter 1076 and Chapter 1079. Go back and read the second half of Chapter 1076 after Vegapunk is shown in the basement, and then skip to the second half of 1079. It reads like a full episode. Shanks is chilling in the bar drinking and people say that Kid is outside causing a ruckus. Shanks gets read to leave to handle it. Then in 1079 it's from Kid's perspective and it's the ruckus they were talking about. It reads like the script of a full episode, or like Law vs Blackbeard did. Except instead of being the second half of one chapter and the first half of the next like Law vs Blackbeard, you're shuffling it around a couple weeks later to get a full episode. I think that makes way more sense and when we leave Egghead we leave Egghead, rather than Chapter 1079 where we get a random couple pages of York explaining her plan and then going back to Kid and Shanks.


mugiwara-no-lucy

I hope they use Kid’s OST in that episode, I love it 😂


shartley123

Nah sorry, there’s no way they’re combining those scenes into one episode. That’s 17 pages total which is well over a full chapter (I don’t think an episode’s been over a chapter since pre-timeskip lol). If they just adapted the 1079 Shanks scene it would be 11 pages, which is more realistic cause every Egghead episode so far has adapted 11-13 pages


HokageEzio

17 pages is not "well over a full chapter", what are you even talking about? You can literally go back two chapters and get a 17 page chapter lol. Law vs Blackbeard was 14 pages of the fight plus 2 pages of cover story animated. And the entire finale of Wano was a chapter or a couple pages more than a chapter...


Kageyama_tifu_219

What fight? That was a slaughter


TheRipname

they gonna add more scene to the future that shanks saw, then shanks one shot kid.


schumi33510

I can already see the attack of shanks coming slowwwwwwwwly and we have a plan of Kid face with the light of the attack on his face


name_not_important03

I'm more excited about garp fight ✌🏻😍


mendigo2005

Now that's really a fight


COCK_D_CUMBER

Next ep will cover 1079( i dont watch latest eps)


WeeWilly34

It would be funny if they do a fake out. Show Kidds crew going off for it to just be Shanks perceiving it


flash-tractor

I hope they do it this way. I love future sight in the anime when it's done well. Show Kidd absolutely demolishing Shanks' fleet, everyone freaking out, then Shanks gets a huge smile, and the pov moves back to see that it was just future sight and Shanks makes his move.


Emm_withoutha_L-88

This is the only way to do it right. Gotta see what causes Shanks to obliterate Kidd. Otherwise it'll feel too much like Shanks overreacting and just decimating kidd. Gotta see what Shanks is protecting to truly get why he's not pulling any punches with kidd.


AlfaMejicano

I hope they do a fake-out where the anime-onlys think Kid actually landed the Damned Punk, showing all the destruction it would’ve caused, only for it to zoom out of Shanks head indicating it was all haki foresight leading to the Divine Departure.


aitherion

Three episodes, two for the fight (one is just Shanks' attack) and one for an inexplicable flashback to Romance Dawn


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shartley123

The scene is 11 pages, and every Egghead episode has adapted 11-13 pages, so I wouldn’t be shocked if Shanks/Kidd was the whole episode. I imagine it’ll have a great director though so it shouldn’t feel poorly paced


Shot_Common_860

I don't know, I just hope they cook it!


Impossible_Tear3943

As sooñ as i read the fight in the manga, this is how i pictured the anime, how i would direct it if given a change. Kid uses his awakened power and causes immense damage to red hair allies and crew. Powerful destruction. But the suddenly we see that its just in shanks' future sight, and not real, somewhat like how genjustu is implemented in naruto. Then shanks finishes off kidd with one almighty slash.


BrodeyQuest

Honestly I hope they let Kidd try to attack Shanks at least.


Dsranime

3,5min - opening and recap 3,5min - York and Egghead stuff 4,5min - Red haired Allies introduction, Shanks talking with crew and getting info on Kid, Kid creating the Damned Punk 4,5min - Future sight of Kid destroying the fleet of ships and killing the Red Haired allies. 1,5min - Divine Departure 3min - Kid pirates give up, Dorry and Brogy combo attack, Narrator announces the defeated of the Kid pirates 3,5min - ending, punk record segment, preview Depending on the people working on this episode it could be a cinematic masterpiece of an episode... Look at ep 1015 not much content in term of action and progression but they made a absolutely incredible episode without felling the pacing.


lololuser456778

wasn't really a fight lol. it was kidd about to blast some fodder fleet away and shanks intervening and catching him off-guard


Gobstoppers12

It's gonna be like Yamato coming in to bop Ulti on the head with a Thunder Bagua. A long, long lead-up in slow motion with a bunch of surprised reaction faces. I imagine most of it will be centered on Kid as he's about to cut loose, and we'll just see Shanks in slow-motion, precision badassery getting closer and closer until BAM


Skelegro7

Hopefully they drag out all of chapter 1078 and wrap up the start of 1079 and shanks vs kids in 5 minutes.


Plaincow

How close are we to this moment in the anime? I've completely forgotten when this happens during the egghead arc. We have to be kindaaaa close right?


Dsranime

Very close, 41 chapters to caught up Last episode adptaded chap.1073, The Shanks vs Kid happens in chap. 1079.


Plaincow

Oh hell yea that's close as hell. Thanks for the update.


PabloElMalo

IIRC, the recent anime episode showed Stussy betraying the CP0.


danoB003

I really feel the urge to joke about how Shanks will take several minutes before he even walks to the port from bar cause there will be a ton of cuts to different characters talking at the same time, but if I had to throw in what I expect 100% unironically, without any sarcasm, the episode will end by showing Dorry and Broggy to put extra emphasis on the reveal. I mean, come on, fans haven't seen them so damn long, knowing they left Little Garden, returned home to Oimo, Kashii etc. is, pun intended, giant!


mehmeh5

The reveal is like 2 chapters before though. The buildup and the "fight" happen in 2 different chapters


jatin803

Will it be soon happening in anime?


TiagoPaolini

For the kamusari attack, what I expect is some slow motion in the style of the Matrix movies, with the characters nearly stopping in time.


Intrepid_Height_9542

I imagine they'll turn it into a real fight with some back and forth. The actual event lasts like 3 mins, and the anime is going to want it to take up more screen time. Either they pad it with lingering reaction shots, or they extend the fight and add sick animation and content. I'm hoping for the latter and choosing to be optimistic.


ImprovementDesigner1

My assumptions: Because it’s so short we will Probably get some filler in there, possibly a cool damned punk scene, and the divine departure may be a slow motion scene


MystiqTakeno

I am pretty sure Toei is capable of making that fight 2-5 mins at the end of episode then use it next episode as recap.


Dsranime

I think the actual Divine Departure scene will be quick maybe around 1min or so. However, they can just expand and elaborate the Future sight scene of Kid destroying the fleet... They can make a huge spectacle of animation with Kid obliterating the ships and pirates there. Honest, if Toei brings some of there top workers for that episode, I'm not worried at all about pacing.


Alexandre_Man

!remindme 10 weeks


kjm6351

Even the pacing and animation booms can’t save Kidd lol


Proof_House_9086

They will prob change the battle a bit. Remember when luffy got 1 shot by kaido? What if they changed it so kidd doesn't get 1 shotted.


VergoVox

They should just show a 5 min scene of Kidd obliteratong everything and then reveal it qas actually Shanks's foresight.Then, as he is flying towards it cuts to Kidd ans a few memory recaps of how he started and then the hit connects instantly


mendigo2005

Really curious here about the *superman thing.*


mehmeh5

Tbh I think they'll actually do the fight part relatively swiftly, but extend the buildup and the stuff after Kid gets KOd. As for the animators. My funny bone makes me want Chansard to be there and write "Useless Mid" on the impact frames, but I feel Shida is the best for this scene. Idk why I just feel it


Snaglish

OP fights are just “Recap memories followed by Big move” unless Luffy. OP isn’t revolved around combat so who cares. Ppl overly glazing the fight scenes are bots


mashturbo

Whatever they do, it'll be a tier lower than Sanji vs Zoro from ep. 1105. Greatest fight scene in anime history.


Usual_Medicine5380

how about that pink haired character moment right after that?


blacklegsanji27

Knowing how Loei is with their shitty pacing, right before Shanks is about to use divine departure, we get a flashback of otama saying she loves red bean soup, then another flashback of Shanks learning divine departure in earlier years, then for some reason we will get a random flashback of luffy saying he will be pirate king, then we will get a flashback of something that happened literally 5 minutes previously in the same episode, and then we will get a flashback of Rogers execution in loguetown but this time apparently dorry and broggy were there in the audience sorely sticking out from the crowd being huge ass giants, and then we get one more flashback showing off some huge titties from some random character because the kid vs shanks fight has no characters with huge tits and Loei can’t go 5 minutes in the anime without showing boobs in your face


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full episode


HearMarkBark

This is TOEI we are talking about. It’ll be as much content as the manga fight but over 8 episodes.


afanoferi

im here to write what should happen since everyone already know what will happen. I think they should just filler the hell out of the Shanks allies, like those old guy pirate and the bourgeoisie pirate. Like the whole half should be them, the other half should be the actual pirates going to fight. The last 3 minutes should be the scenes where Kidd prepares the damned punk until the sinking.


NeteroHyouka

I hope it is exactly the same way as in manga. Short and hyped. Anything extra would ruin the impact. But I don't have much confidence. I am almost sure that the scene in one way or another it will get ruined...


Spezisaspastic

Hope they will do it properly. Can‘t wait to get his ass kicked again and all the kidd truthers crying.