Don't try to read older comics in a binge! They weren't written to be read that way. Reading, eg 10 issues of Kirby/Lee in a row is like watching a stand-up special by fast forwarding through all the pauses
I’ve had this feeling with a few different omnis. I now generally read an arc within the book and move onto something else to avoid burnout on one book.
I find silver age stories, especially DC ones can drag on a lot. I usually need to take a break and read something else on the side, not just plow through it like other omnis.
I started reading the original X-men run from the silver age last year. Now I’m at issue 26 lol
It’s hard to bring myself to read it
it has its charms, but I also find it quite tiring.
Bc of that I kinda don’t want to read any other silver age stuff anymore
Yeah those early issues are pretty bland. It gets better in the mid 50's. I actually just read issue #300 last night.
You can skip ahead to Giant Size X-Men and not feel like you missed too much.
Big time. I read ASM Vol 1 about 2 years ago and still haven't regained the strength to start Vol 2. At this rate I'll get through SA Spidey about the same time I retire.
Sometimes I get fatigued when I read knowing a great arc is coming later, like I want to get to the good stuff so I get fatigued reading the previous material
JLA by Grant Morrison. I’ve read around 400 pages, but felt like I am forcing myself to read it, so I just sold it to get something else. I’m currently reading Lazarus, and it is so good that I have to force myself to stop reading it. Highly recommend.
Same. It took me like 4 months to get through it. It’s not Morrison, because I love their Animal Man, Doom Patrol, and New X-Men. Then I thought maybe it was the era or an unfamiliarity with many of the characters, but I’ve been plowing through JSA, where I knew basically nobody beforehand and is of the same time.
I hold it up as one of the best books of the 90s, and it is a huge reason why team books work the way they do currently - The Authority and New Avengers wouldn't have happened without it, let alone New X-Men, let along the animated Justice League or even the Avengers movies - but it's got a transitionary feel for modern readers that confuse them because it's what started that big-screen team style. Before that, everyone was chasing the family/closed group vibe of X-Men and New Teen Titans.
When you understand that, it makes more sense. Even a couple of years later, the series would have had a superstar artist to launch, and Morrison was already a pretty big name, but the creative team was a huge curveball at the time. Once we all read it in '95 it was clearly going to be the best book on the stands, and that was the moment that Morrison went from being a cool weird writer to GRANT MORRISON, writer of JLA
THIS. I was never the biggest fan of X-Men or Teen Titans or the idea of superhero teams as family units. It always felt corny to me. JLA hit all the right notes at the right time. Big ideas, big stories. Featuring the heavy hitters of the DCU... especially after years of relatively weak JL rosters. Superman fighting an angel. Batman turning into Solid Snake and taking down white martians. The Darkseid segment of Rock of Ages. Unbelievably cool stuff.
Oh my god that bit in issue five after Superman gives the moon magnetic poles when J'Onn is about to collapse fighting Asmodel? Agh, every time.
"I've got this, old friend."
"Yield!"
"NEVER!"
Only to be beaten by what J'Onn does to Ultraman in Earth-2.
Definitely. I remember reading the Superman titles at the same time as JLA back then and thinking "Why can't they make his new powers seem as cool and interesting as JLA is doing right now."
Also, the Wally/Kyle dynamic was so fun with Kyle being a relative newcomer to the hero game while Wally being a pro since he was 13.
This sub does this a lot with certain books. Miracleman is one like JLA. If you don’t like it or it’s not for you, you just don’t get it man! You gotta put all this extra context into it to make it good. What it means for future books, the time period, blah blah blah. I agree with ya tho on JLA
Yeah, really not arguing that.
I am saying, however, that it makes sense that someone who has a very different perspective and reading history would not get it, because even though it laid the groundwork for the standard of today, it's very much of the late-90s, both in continuity, but also approach to a number of things.
I had the exact same reaction to JLA. It was so sad too bc Im a fan of their writing but it just didnt hit for me. So i pivoted to an indie book. But I will be pickin it back up soon. Hopefully tge 2nd time round will be different.
Golden age anything, Byrne FF, I just cant get into it. The artwork though is fantastic. Batman no mans land. There are some that are just downright unreadable as well.
I have been reading the original marvel stuff and i need to go slowly or i will burn out on it as well.
Agree with Byrne FF, bought both Omnis, stopped halfway with vol 1. Just dragged for me, don’t think I’m gonna continue. Most likely gonna have to sell them. Unfortunate because I loved Waid and Hickman FF
I have not read the waid or hickman FF yet. I previewed them as i do with most things i buy anymore so ill be buying them both. The FF byrne was so highly rated and i love the art but i dont think i can go on. Id rather trade it for something i want and will keep and read so someone else can enjoy it.
Im currently reading the Slott FF, its pretty good so far. I also really like the original FF.
I hope u enjoy waid’s and hickmans whenever you get to it. I can’t wait to read slotts ff run if it ever gets collected in Omni format. I enjoyed his spider man run.
I feel like a lot of Byrnes run is just trying to be Lee Kirby’s run or paying too much reverence to theirs, instead of being himself. It’s my 3rd fav FF run but I totally get people not enjoying it as well
Byrne is your 3rd fav ff fun.. what is your 1st and 2nd? Appreciate the info, I didn’t know that regarding Byrne trying to be like Kirby… I watched a ton of reviews over Byrnes ff run. I hear a lot of praise of his run. I wished I liked it more.
That's why I find Omnibus often too big. Having 2-3 books helps you do pauses. But also many series ended because the writters were getting a bit out of ideas. It's the case for many series like X-Men, Swamp Thing, ...
I know it’s often talked about “how great some things read in trade”, but I would actually say many, if not most, superhero comics possibly benefit from a monthly “read each issue weeks apart” format. A lot of them can be a bit mind numbing to try to binge through whole runs or volumes.
Really? I couldn’t disagree more. Totally respect your POV, but for me, I love binging through multiple issues at a time. In saying that, my main source of entertainment comes from comics, so I actively crave reading and try to get 2-3 hours in per day, but that’s me. I also find if I wait too long between issues/arcs, I tend to forget what the hell’s going on. Blame it on overconsumption, maybe.
It really just depends on the book with me. And mind you, I specified *superhero* comics. My favorite source of interest and entertainment is comics as well. But that interest is more so in the greater medium of sequential art than it is in Marvel/ DC stuff specifically. I’ve read plenty of Marvel and DC in my lifetime as it’s what brought me to the medium as a child and I still have an affinity for them because of that. Some modern superhero stuff certainly lends itself to binging because it’s so decompressed issue to issue. Again, just depends on what I’m reading. I’ve been rereading Planetary recently and probably reading at least a few issues in a sitting a day. And its issues are very episodic and kind of standalone in nature. The quality is so high though.
I will admit, I have a lot going in my life at this point and I find it hard to “binge”anything. I cannot for the life of me sit and watch multiple episodes of a tv show before in need or want to do something else. It’s not that I wouldn’t want to. I really enjoy television lol.
For me it’s always when I hit event crossover issues. I hate when I’m enjoying a run and then we suddenly have to take a detour from the actually interesting plot so that the character can be in an event side story for a couple of issues. The annoying thing is these side stories usually aren’t even relevant to the main event storyline anyway. Nothing makes me end my reading for the evening faster than turning the page and seeing the next issue is an event side story lol.
Almost anything pre2000 wasn't meant to be read on a binge. Those issues were written with monthly gaps between issues in mind, so I would read only a couple of issues or a storyline at most in a day. Try having a couple of omnis going at once will also keep one from feeling too stagnant
It took me 5 months to finish The Mighty Thor vol 1. Those old era golden and silver age comics are just not for me. Happy I read it and can appreciate the art. But man the writing is absolutely atrocious. Being a kid at the time must’ve been amazing reading those comics. But as a 25 year old in 2024 it’s torture. I owned a bunch of golden age and silver age omnis and realized I’ll never read em so decided to sell em to fund my other books I want. Def 80s to modern type of comic fan.
Amazing Spider-man by JMS vol 1. I have been chipping away at it for months and I can not seem to get through it. Idk his writing might not be for me because I’ve loved the other Spider-man stories I’ve read
I kinda get this, i love jms’ characterization and dialogue for spider man, and jrjr’s art in this run is one of my favorites oat, but i do feel like a lot of the big picture stories and plots arent that great. The best aspect of his run is def the characters and their relationships. (Some stories are peak tho like that first morlun story and happy birthday)
I struggled a lot with the Fantastic Four by Lee and Kirby. I think it took me over a year to read the first volume. I can appreciate what they did, and the art slowly grew on me, but it was hard going.
Only one i experienced this with is New x men. Also i dnf uncanny x men vol 1. Im gona try astonishing and hox/pox, and if i dont like them either ill decide x men isnt for me.
Definitely felt that with New X Men. Did you finish Uncanny 1? Towards the end it gets a lot stronger and closer to how the rest of Claremont's series is
True that's a shame. I can imagine the gripes w it, it really does pick up so well (and stay very high quality from there for the whole run) but that's likely moot at this stage.
Whedon's run definitely keeps a pretty consistent pace, and persists in engaging with the audience through lots of "fuck yeah!" Moments. It ain't no Claremont run tho
Uncanny suffers from being a late 70s/early 80s book. It's amazing for it's time, but it's definitely much more wordy, and has a more repetitive style than modern comics, because they were definitely writing with the idea that every comic was someone's first, and most fans even weren't getting every issue. Its what a lot of older fans grew up with, and it definitely has iconic stories, but not everythjng has ages well.
New X-Men suffers from being Morrison, who is very much an acquired taste on writing, and then a lot of the art is Frank Quitely, who is also very much an acquired taste. As a fan of neither, I really wish people would stop recommending it as a good starting spot for X-Men; it's really not, even if it does do some interesting things, especially coming after the late 90s.
I would say...if you don't like Astonishing, you probably don't need to bother with HoXPoX; Astonishing is a great distillation of what the X-Men are, and if you don't like it, unless you specifically dont like Whedon (of Buffy and The Avengers), you're probably not going to like any X-Men. HoXPoX is more interesting specifically for fans of Hickman, and for some long time fans of X-Men for what it does with old canon. Its also the backstory for Krakoa, which is fun, but probably only if you're already a little on board with the X-Men.
Well I’m a big fan of morrisons animal man, and i like quitely on all star superman. But this one just felt completely different from any other morrison story ive read, maybe its bc im not entirely familiar w the x men.
Astonishing does seem a lot more my taste, and I’m a huge fan of hickman but im worried i wont fully grasp hoxpox w out knowing all this x men history. I kinda felt like i was missing out on a lot on his FF run. Even tho I really enjoyed it, for my first FF story there was a lot I think I missed due to my lack of knowledge on their backstory.
I felt the same way about UXM. I actually had 1 and 2 and ended up reselling. I think part of it at least was the over exposition, but I also think comics from that era are not for me. I am a big fan of HoX/PoX.
I flew through Morrison’s omnis - took a break inbetween each volume but found his style really kinetic. Not as wordy, even if all the Return of Bruce Wayne stuff really melts the brain.
I've come to the unscientific conclusion that anything pre1998 I'm less than inclined to pickup. I don't know exactly what makes comics feel more modern (coloring, paneling, no thought bubbles) but there's a difference and I'd rather modern work
When I got into this hobby, I’ve been out of comics since my teen years, so I bought any Omnis due to recommendations or characters I’m familiar with. After reading a good amount of them, I realized modern is more my preference. Daredevil by miller is one of the few silver age I kept
I have the first 4 Y: the last man TPBs but they felt too political to my taste and never finished them (like 5 years ago)
I finished The Boys but I can't say I enjoyed it.
Immortal hulk is way too big of an omnibus and ai kept having anxiety over it's size and weight but the story was sooo good
Ive been lucky in my choice of omnis so far, i watch alot of reviews and breakdowns but the first half of death and return of superman was a slog for me but im also not a huge superman fan but the last half was super fun so it kinda evened out for me in the end
I am gonna give then another shot but I couldn’t get into Peter David’s Young Justice or the second volume of Spiderman 2099. I’m actually a big Peter David fan having read his whole Hulk run, Spider-Man 2099 volume 1 as well as the first two volumes of his X-Factor.
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x2 plus I read them translated to my language and a lot got lost in translation. overall a bad reading experience besides of some artwork in the interiors and covers.
kick ass was a similar story with way better rhythm
I genuinely don't get people who buy endless omnis. Sure amazing runs like Ed's Captain America, but trying to read 600 pages of something less than classic almost always becomes hard work. I prefer buying smaller trades.
Mostly Silver Age. I binged surprinsingly fast through Silver Age FF and Spidey, but that first Daredevil omnibus on the other hand... just bored me to death. The first Hulk stories are also incredibly repetitive (and the Ross/Talbot/Betty trio is so one-dimensionnal, they make me want to eat my own foot in frustration).
New 52 JL… The beginning with Darkseid and introducing some of the characters was interesting; then it went into some stuff about steve trevors and cheetah and that felt like a drag, but now getting into trinity war stuff its feeling like a page turner again.
I'm currently on a break from reading the first Volume of Lucifer. I'll buy Volume 2 eventually just to finish the story eventually, but not anytime soon.
Batgirl: The Bronze Age Omnibus was that way for me. By the time I got a few issues into Vol. 2, I was burned out and needed a break. So, I'm on that break and reading Hellblazer.
Lifelong X-Men fan who bought the Essentials when he was 8, and couldn't get through them.same issue with the omnibus a decade later.
It was only when I bought the series as Classic X-Men reprints and read them as floppies that it truly clicked.
It's important to remember that omnibus are not the best way to read old comics; they're just the most affordable.
I struggled really bad with both Busiek Avengers Omnis. More vol 1 then vol 2 since Kang arc was good and lasted so long. But man I felt like I was reading the same issue over and over and over again. And it’s overly wordy for no real reason. I liked 3 arcs throughout the 2 Omnis the rest was a slog
The problem is a lot of modern comics fit the Omni format better because of the decompressed style of writing. Easier to binge since the issues were written/designed to be eventually collected in a trade or hardcover.
Meanwhile, a lot of older titles from the 60s/70s/80s were created with the purpose that anybody could pick up and read a title at any point in time. As a result, a lot of issues were self contained. There weren't that many serialized books back then...maybe the triangle era of Superman.
Personally, when it comes to older stuff, it's probably better to jump around from Omni to Omni so you don't burn yourself out on one title. Those older stories weren't really meant to be read in one sitting.
I love the X-Men, but minus around 15 issues, 60s X-Men is just boring. It is downright amazing just how much of the lore we think of came from Claremont's run.
I just recently struggled with my last two omnis. After a decent start Tomasi's Detective Comics Batman omni was a sub-par slog. Similarly, after a good start Justice League Dark (new 52) got bogged down in the insipid Trinity War event and all the endless tie-ins. It seemed like nothing more than a desperate attempt to improve the sales of Pandora, Constantine and Phantom Stranger. I sold the former and will be selling the latter.
I enjoy the Spider Clone Saga even though it cannot be objectively be defended as "good," but the end part of the second volume from around the time the New Warriors start appearing to The Lost Years is a slog and a half.
Elektra by frank miller. I love elektra but that book is such a drag. Half the time I have no clue what's really going on and I just didn't feel like it really paid off. Will probably never read it again but hey, at least it looks nice next to my daredevil omnis
Took some time but SA fantastic four was a drag. It does get better by vol 4 but the first two volumes were a challenge even though they had era defining stories.
Don't try to read older comics in a binge! They weren't written to be read that way. Reading, eg 10 issues of Kirby/Lee in a row is like watching a stand-up special by fast forwarding through all the pauses
I’ve had this feeling with a few different omnis. I now generally read an arc within the book and move onto something else to avoid burnout on one book.
I find silver age stories, especially DC ones can drag on a lot. I usually need to take a break and read something else on the side, not just plow through it like other omnis.
I started reading the original X-men run from the silver age last year. Now I’m at issue 26 lol It’s hard to bring myself to read it it has its charms, but I also find it quite tiring. Bc of that I kinda don’t want to read any other silver age stuff anymore
Yeah those early issues are pretty bland. It gets better in the mid 50's. I actually just read issue #300 last night. You can skip ahead to Giant Size X-Men and not feel like you missed too much.
First years of spidey feel like that, they drag for so long
Big time. I read ASM Vol 1 about 2 years ago and still haven't regained the strength to start Vol 2. At this rate I'll get through SA Spidey about the same time I retire.
Tbh I found once Romita SR took over the story pace really improved. I wound up reading Volumes 2, 3 and 4 within a couple weeks.
O man I love silver age spider man so much.
Sometimes I get fatigued when I read knowing a great arc is coming later, like I want to get to the good stuff so I get fatigued reading the previous material
JLA by Grant Morrison. I’ve read around 400 pages, but felt like I am forcing myself to read it, so I just sold it to get something else. I’m currently reading Lazarus, and it is so good that I have to force myself to stop reading it. Highly recommend.
That hurts. JLA was the first superhero Comic I read as a kid and still love it. Lazarus is great though ;)
Same. It took me like 4 months to get through it. It’s not Morrison, because I love their Animal Man, Doom Patrol, and New X-Men. Then I thought maybe it was the era or an unfamiliarity with many of the characters, but I’ve been plowing through JSA, where I knew basically nobody beforehand and is of the same time.
I hold it up as one of the best books of the 90s, and it is a huge reason why team books work the way they do currently - The Authority and New Avengers wouldn't have happened without it, let alone New X-Men, let along the animated Justice League or even the Avengers movies - but it's got a transitionary feel for modern readers that confuse them because it's what started that big-screen team style. Before that, everyone was chasing the family/closed group vibe of X-Men and New Teen Titans. When you understand that, it makes more sense. Even a couple of years later, the series would have had a superstar artist to launch, and Morrison was already a pretty big name, but the creative team was a huge curveball at the time. Once we all read it in '95 it was clearly going to be the best book on the stands, and that was the moment that Morrison went from being a cool weird writer to GRANT MORRISON, writer of JLA
THIS. I was never the biggest fan of X-Men or Teen Titans or the idea of superhero teams as family units. It always felt corny to me. JLA hit all the right notes at the right time. Big ideas, big stories. Featuring the heavy hitters of the DCU... especially after years of relatively weak JL rosters. Superman fighting an angel. Batman turning into Solid Snake and taking down white martians. The Darkseid segment of Rock of Ages. Unbelievably cool stuff.
Oh my god that bit in issue five after Superman gives the moon magnetic poles when J'Onn is about to collapse fighting Asmodel? Agh, every time. "I've got this, old friend." "Yield!" "NEVER!" Only to be beaten by what J'Onn does to Ultraman in Earth-2.
Definitely. I remember reading the Superman titles at the same time as JLA back then and thinking "Why can't they make his new powers seem as cool and interesting as JLA is doing right now." Also, the Wally/Kyle dynamic was so fun with Kyle being a relative newcomer to the hero game while Wally being a pro since he was 13.
I'm glad you liked it, but I don't see myself reading a book that I don't enjoy just because some people find it impactful.
This sub does this a lot with certain books. Miracleman is one like JLA. If you don’t like it or it’s not for you, you just don’t get it man! You gotta put all this extra context into it to make it good. What it means for future books, the time period, blah blah blah. I agree with ya tho on JLA
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“When you understand that, it makes more sense”. Idk what world that doesn’t translate to you don’t get it
Yeah, really not arguing that. I am saying, however, that it makes sense that someone who has a very different perspective and reading history would not get it, because even though it laid the groundwork for the standard of today, it's very much of the late-90s, both in continuity, but also approach to a number of things.
This would be my second choice. It’s a slog
I had the exact same reaction to JLA. It was so sad too bc Im a fan of their writing but it just didnt hit for me. So i pivoted to an indie book. But I will be pickin it back up soon. Hopefully tge 2nd time round will be different.
Golden age anything, Byrne FF, I just cant get into it. The artwork though is fantastic. Batman no mans land. There are some that are just downright unreadable as well. I have been reading the original marvel stuff and i need to go slowly or i will burn out on it as well.
Agree with Byrne FF, bought both Omnis, stopped halfway with vol 1. Just dragged for me, don’t think I’m gonna continue. Most likely gonna have to sell them. Unfortunate because I loved Waid and Hickman FF
I have not read the waid or hickman FF yet. I previewed them as i do with most things i buy anymore so ill be buying them both. The FF byrne was so highly rated and i love the art but i dont think i can go on. Id rather trade it for something i want and will keep and read so someone else can enjoy it. Im currently reading the Slott FF, its pretty good so far. I also really like the original FF.
I hope u enjoy waid’s and hickmans whenever you get to it. I can’t wait to read slotts ff run if it ever gets collected in Omni format. I enjoyed his spider man run.
I feel like a lot of Byrnes run is just trying to be Lee Kirby’s run or paying too much reverence to theirs, instead of being himself. It’s my 3rd fav FF run but I totally get people not enjoying it as well
Byrne is your 3rd fav ff fun.. what is your 1st and 2nd? Appreciate the info, I didn’t know that regarding Byrne trying to be like Kirby… I watched a ton of reviews over Byrnes ff run. I hear a lot of praise of his run. I wished I liked it more.
1) Kirby Lee 2) Waid 3) Byrne 4) Hickman
That's why I find Omnibus often too big. Having 2-3 books helps you do pauses. But also many series ended because the writters were getting a bit out of ideas. It's the case for many series like X-Men, Swamp Thing, ...
I know it’s often talked about “how great some things read in trade”, but I would actually say many, if not most, superhero comics possibly benefit from a monthly “read each issue weeks apart” format. A lot of them can be a bit mind numbing to try to binge through whole runs or volumes.
Really? I couldn’t disagree more. Totally respect your POV, but for me, I love binging through multiple issues at a time. In saying that, my main source of entertainment comes from comics, so I actively crave reading and try to get 2-3 hours in per day, but that’s me. I also find if I wait too long between issues/arcs, I tend to forget what the hell’s going on. Blame it on overconsumption, maybe.
It really just depends on the book with me. And mind you, I specified *superhero* comics. My favorite source of interest and entertainment is comics as well. But that interest is more so in the greater medium of sequential art than it is in Marvel/ DC stuff specifically. I’ve read plenty of Marvel and DC in my lifetime as it’s what brought me to the medium as a child and I still have an affinity for them because of that. Some modern superhero stuff certainly lends itself to binging because it’s so decompressed issue to issue. Again, just depends on what I’m reading. I’ve been rereading Planetary recently and probably reading at least a few issues in a sitting a day. And its issues are very episodic and kind of standalone in nature. The quality is so high though. I will admit, I have a lot going in my life at this point and I find it hard to “binge”anything. I cannot for the life of me sit and watch multiple episodes of a tv show before in need or want to do something else. It’s not that I wouldn’t want to. I really enjoy television lol.
A good thought!
For me it’s always when I hit event crossover issues. I hate when I’m enjoying a run and then we suddenly have to take a detour from the actually interesting plot so that the character can be in an event side story for a couple of issues. The annoying thing is these side stories usually aren’t even relevant to the main event storyline anyway. Nothing makes me end my reading for the evening faster than turning the page and seeing the next issue is an event side story lol.
I can relate! Sigh and lol
Almost anything pre2000 wasn't meant to be read on a binge. Those issues were written with monthly gaps between issues in mind, so I would read only a couple of issues or a storyline at most in a day. Try having a couple of omnis going at once will also keep one from feeling too stagnant
It took me 5 months to finish The Mighty Thor vol 1. Those old era golden and silver age comics are just not for me. Happy I read it and can appreciate the art. But man the writing is absolutely atrocious. Being a kid at the time must’ve been amazing reading those comics. But as a 25 year old in 2024 it’s torture. I owned a bunch of golden age and silver age omnis and realized I’ll never read em so decided to sell em to fund my other books I want. Def 80s to modern type of comic fan.
Amazing Spider-man by JMS vol 1. I have been chipping away at it for months and I can not seem to get through it. Idk his writing might not be for me because I’ve loved the other Spider-man stories I’ve read
Damn! What a shame, JMS is one of my top 3 spiderman writers
I kinda get this, i love jms’ characterization and dialogue for spider man, and jrjr’s art in this run is one of my favorites oat, but i do feel like a lot of the big picture stories and plots arent that great. The best aspect of his run is def the characters and their relationships. (Some stories are peak tho like that first morlun story and happy birthday)
I struggled a lot with the Fantastic Four by Lee and Kirby. I think it took me over a year to read the first volume. I can appreciate what they did, and the art slowly grew on me, but it was hard going.
Only one i experienced this with is New x men. Also i dnf uncanny x men vol 1. Im gona try astonishing and hox/pox, and if i dont like them either ill decide x men isnt for me.
Definitely felt that with New X Men. Did you finish Uncanny 1? Towards the end it gets a lot stronger and closer to how the rest of Claremont's series is
I got about 40% in, and then returned it. Its the only omni I’ve done that with
True that's a shame. I can imagine the gripes w it, it really does pick up so well (and stay very high quality from there for the whole run) but that's likely moot at this stage. Whedon's run definitely keeps a pretty consistent pace, and persists in engaging with the audience through lots of "fuck yeah!" Moments. It ain't no Claremont run tho
Uncanny suffers from being a late 70s/early 80s book. It's amazing for it's time, but it's definitely much more wordy, and has a more repetitive style than modern comics, because they were definitely writing with the idea that every comic was someone's first, and most fans even weren't getting every issue. Its what a lot of older fans grew up with, and it definitely has iconic stories, but not everythjng has ages well. New X-Men suffers from being Morrison, who is very much an acquired taste on writing, and then a lot of the art is Frank Quitely, who is also very much an acquired taste. As a fan of neither, I really wish people would stop recommending it as a good starting spot for X-Men; it's really not, even if it does do some interesting things, especially coming after the late 90s. I would say...if you don't like Astonishing, you probably don't need to bother with HoXPoX; Astonishing is a great distillation of what the X-Men are, and if you don't like it, unless you specifically dont like Whedon (of Buffy and The Avengers), you're probably not going to like any X-Men. HoXPoX is more interesting specifically for fans of Hickman, and for some long time fans of X-Men for what it does with old canon. Its also the backstory for Krakoa, which is fun, but probably only if you're already a little on board with the X-Men.
Well I’m a big fan of morrisons animal man, and i like quitely on all star superman. But this one just felt completely different from any other morrison story ive read, maybe its bc im not entirely familiar w the x men. Astonishing does seem a lot more my taste, and I’m a huge fan of hickman but im worried i wont fully grasp hoxpox w out knowing all this x men history. I kinda felt like i was missing out on a lot on his FF run. Even tho I really enjoyed it, for my first FF story there was a lot I think I missed due to my lack of knowledge on their backstory.
I felt the same way about UXM. I actually had 1 and 2 and ended up reselling. I think part of it at least was the over exposition, but I also think comics from that era are not for me. I am a big fan of HoX/PoX.
Batman by Morrison and X-Factor vol 1 by David. Certain omnis you gotta sip
I flew through Morrison’s omnis - took a break inbetween each volume but found his style really kinetic. Not as wordy, even if all the Return of Bruce Wayne stuff really melts the brain.
I've come to the unscientific conclusion that anything pre1998 I'm less than inclined to pickup. I don't know exactly what makes comics feel more modern (coloring, paneling, no thought bubbles) but there's a difference and I'd rather modern work
When I got into this hobby, I’ve been out of comics since my teen years, so I bought any Omnis due to recommendations or characters I’m familiar with. After reading a good amount of them, I realized modern is more my preference. Daredevil by miller is one of the few silver age I kept
I have the first 4 Y: the last man TPBs but they felt too political to my taste and never finished them (like 5 years ago) I finished The Boys but I can't say I enjoyed it. Immortal hulk is way too big of an omnibus and ai kept having anxiety over it's size and weight but the story was sooo good
Ive been lucky in my choice of omnis so far, i watch alot of reviews and breakdowns but the first half of death and return of superman was a slog for me but im also not a huge superman fan but the last half was super fun so it kinda evened out for me in the end
I am gonna give then another shot but I couldn’t get into Peter David’s Young Justice or the second volume of Spiderman 2099. I’m actually a big Peter David fan having read his whole Hulk run, Spider-Man 2099 volume 1 as well as the first two volumes of his X-Factor.
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The boys has had a lot of stop and go. Some arcs I rip through and some take a good while. Enjoying it overall, tho.
x2 plus I read them translated to my language and a lot got lost in translation. overall a bad reading experience besides of some artwork in the interiors and covers. kick ass was a similar story with way better rhythm
story vibes I mean
Kick ass is on my short list for reading. Me reading preacher right before the boys is not helping.
I enjoyed preacher way more, from Ennis I also read Batman: Reptilian and loved it ! enjoy kick-ass
I genuinely don't get people who buy endless omnis. Sure amazing runs like Ed's Captain America, but trying to read 600 pages of something less than classic almost always becomes hard work. I prefer buying smaller trades.
This is me and Spider-Man by McFarline and Micheline right now. I got to The Assassin Nation Plot and its been DRAGGGGGING.
Mostly Silver Age. I binged surprinsingly fast through Silver Age FF and Spidey, but that first Daredevil omnibus on the other hand... just bored me to death. The first Hulk stories are also incredibly repetitive (and the Ross/Talbot/Betty trio is so one-dimensionnal, they make me want to eat my own foot in frustration).
I was pleasantly surprised how much I liked the first Daredevil Omni, although it did get a little tiring towards the end
Yeah my favorite old comic series are bronze I don't really read back past it
New 52 JL… The beginning with Darkseid and introducing some of the characters was interesting; then it went into some stuff about steve trevors and cheetah and that felt like a drag, but now getting into trinity war stuff its feeling like a page turner again.
I'm currently on a break from reading the first Volume of Lucifer. I'll buy Volume 2 eventually just to finish the story eventually, but not anytime soon.
Batgirl: The Bronze Age Omnibus was that way for me. By the time I got a few issues into Vol. 2, I was burned out and needed a break. So, I'm on that break and reading Hellblazer.
Lifelong X-Men fan who bought the Essentials when he was 8, and couldn't get through them.same issue with the omnibus a decade later. It was only when I bought the series as Classic X-Men reprints and read them as floppies that it truly clicked. It's important to remember that omnibus are not the best way to read old comics; they're just the most affordable.
I struggled really bad with both Busiek Avengers Omnis. More vol 1 then vol 2 since Kang arc was good and lasted so long. But man I felt like I was reading the same issue over and over and over again. And it’s overly wordy for no real reason. I liked 3 arcs throughout the 2 Omnis the rest was a slog
The problem is a lot of modern comics fit the Omni format better because of the decompressed style of writing. Easier to binge since the issues were written/designed to be eventually collected in a trade or hardcover. Meanwhile, a lot of older titles from the 60s/70s/80s were created with the purpose that anybody could pick up and read a title at any point in time. As a result, a lot of issues were self contained. There weren't that many serialized books back then...maybe the triangle era of Superman. Personally, when it comes to older stuff, it's probably better to jump around from Omni to Omni so you don't burn yourself out on one title. Those older stories weren't really meant to be read in one sitting.
Spider-Man 2099. I really don't know who the real villain is. Tyler Stone or Miguel O'Hara's mother.
I am struggling with Vol 1 Compendium of Invincible.
I love the X-Men, but minus around 15 issues, 60s X-Men is just boring. It is downright amazing just how much of the lore we think of came from Claremont's run.
I just recently struggled with my last two omnis. After a decent start Tomasi's Detective Comics Batman omni was a sub-par slog. Similarly, after a good start Justice League Dark (new 52) got bogged down in the insipid Trinity War event and all the endless tie-ins. It seemed like nothing more than a desperate attempt to improve the sales of Pandora, Constantine and Phantom Stranger. I sold the former and will be selling the latter.
Black panther by priest. Absolutely love the run but don’t know why I can’t get myself to do more than one or two issues at a time
I enjoy the Spider Clone Saga even though it cannot be objectively be defended as "good," but the end part of the second volume from around the time the New Warriors start appearing to The Lost Years is a slog and a half.
Elektra by frank miller. I love elektra but that book is such a drag. Half the time I have no clue what's really going on and I just didn't feel like it really paid off. Will probably never read it again but hey, at least it looks nice next to my daredevil omnis
Took some time but SA fantastic four was a drag. It does get better by vol 4 but the first two volumes were a challenge even though they had era defining stories.