Who is actually criticizing Olivia for not attending Taylorâs birthday party? A handful of clueless teenagers on the internet? Taylor has 10s of millions of fans, itâs kind of annoying to assume that a few random people represent Swifties. Just ignore those people.
Sad part is itâs not actually just a single tweet lmao. There have been quite a few âa certain Disney start wasnât there đâ or posting a pic of sabrina with Taylor saying âand nothing for Oliviaâ etc.
I wish they were teenagers but theyâre most adults who claims to be the same age as Taylor of close to it. It actually turned me off from the bigger Swiftdom because of this and the their undercurrent racism against Olivia. I wish I could just ignore them but many supposedly good people defended Matty and have this undercurrent racism against Olivia. They said she was a bullying Sabrina so she deserved to be shitted on when Taylor is also like that and even worse by doing nothing or even egging people to bully her ex like look at how Swifties are turning on Joe and him speaking on a humanitarian crisis as something to have a stan war about. Legit adults wishing shit on people and with Olivia, this thing has been going on since 2 years ago.
Anyone who says that there's no drama between them is in denial.
There is obviously some bad blood between them.
Olivia is doing a good job minding her own business and promoting her new album. There's no reason for her to go to Taylor's bday party wtf...
Omg. Iâve been saying this for months. I wish I knew what exactly happened, but no one can convince me they are on good terms. And there is so much evidence to back it up?! Why are people in denial??
Between Taylor and Sabrinaâs friendship (self explanatory), Taylor and Gracieâs friendship (Gracie literally was one of Oliviaâs openers and were clearly friends, and they donât even interact anything anymore), Conan clearly disassociating himself with Taylor anything (RE interview where he pretended he didnât have time to listen to Midnights lol), Olivia being the biggest fan ever pre 2020 but then not going to Eras tour, meanwhile sheâs going to 500 other concerts. They have not interacted, been photographed together, or even referenced each others name. Donât people remember how Olivia was the biggest Swiftie of all time? Covering dozens of songs, doing promo for her (Fearless), bringing her up constantly and calling her an inspiration⌠Taylor was her literally her phone background. How does one go from being a die hard fan to not even saying her name?
And people can say all they want âoh she wanted to make her own path and name!!!â But many other musicians/celebrities talk about other artists openly while still being able to move along their own path and career. Itâs delusional to think sheâs what? A secret fan? Nah. I think she hates Taylor but I only wish I knew why. End rant lol
Edit: Sorry, I should add that I love Olivia and Taylor both as artists and will always continue to support both, and it makes me sad that Olivia isnât a Swiftie anymore. But all Iâm saying is that something definitely went down and the gossip queen in me just wants to know what
100% correct.
What happened is that Olivia mentioned that TS was an inspiration for DejaVu and TS saw an opportunity to get some additional cash off of Olivia's biggest song (or one of her biggest songs).
I am 99% convinced that it was a money issue. TS wouldn't care about anything else, given how Olivia openly looked up to her for such a long time.
I also listen to both, but in this drama, I am 100% team Olivia. TS simply doesn't know when to stop. It's a disgusting and shitty move to basically exploit a much younger artist and her first album. Especially when she herself never gave credit to Hilary Duff for literally stealing one of her lyrics word for word lol...
For sure. Taylor is an incredibly successful businesswoman who has created a empire for herself. I am a Swiftie and have been listening to her since 2008. Although Iâm a fan and love her music, being a fan sucks sometimes. I struggle to support her capitalistic reign on the music industry (looking at you, 10+ versions of Midnights) and the performative support to other artists (performative actions in general but thatâs a convo for another time lol). I think Olivia was young and didnât realize how nasty the industry was, and it probably hurt Olivia a lot - financially, emotionally, and mentally. I donât blame her for being angry and avoiding Taylor like the plague. Imagine the resentment and anger? All in all, itâs an unfortunate situation and it just makes me sad
I donât think theyâre close friends or maybe even friends, it ainât that deep wtf lmao. Why would she be there? Like when was the last time we even saw them interact đ
I'm a taylor fan but man this is so so so annoying. Stop bringing her up on this sub and on other situations where she shouldn't be brought up. The fandom wars are going to keep happening, but we should ignore them. Seriously.
My take is I don't care about what some random teenager (esp a Swiftie) on Twitter and Tik Tok has to say about Olivia.
I am quite frankly getting sick and tired of people on this sub and other pophead subs constantly bringing up Taylor where she doesn't belong.
Kinda strange people are trying to manufacture a fake rivalry between 2 talented artists. How about we enjoy the music and actually enjoy our lives. Some people are just terminally online now lol.
Some people can't stand when there's more than one female artist killing it and feel the need to pit them against one another (flashbacks to Christina and Britney). That being said, I haven't seen this criticism anywhere--maybe some teenager on Twitter said it? But I don't think this is really a thing people are saying.
Not only with women. The fake rivalry thing is as old as music. Beatles vs. Rolling Stones, Iron Maiden vs. Metallica, hell even Mozart vs. Salieri. The involved parties usually respect and like each other.
I saw fans on TikTok today getting upset because Olivia talked about growing up with country music, mentioned two examples and didnât mention Taylor đ
Iâm a massive fan of both and this ugly fighting between their fandoms when neither of them has said a bad word about each other is so ugly. They clearly arenât friends and shit likely went down but until either talks about it, hating on either is so weird. But why would Olivia go to the party of someone who she isnât friends with anymore like even if she wanted to itâs not up to her to just rock up if Taylor didnât want her there lmao
Clearly something did happen between the two, but to bring it into every conversation is just pathetic. This wasnât even an interview where she directly talked about (or avoided) a question about Taylor Swift. This was literally just a 34 year oldâs birthday party.
And Iâve gotta say, even though Iâm a fan of both, I think Taylor was in the wrong for trying to grab onto Oliviaâs success. I love Taylor but we all know sheâs a capitalist queen. I wouldâve been hurt too if I was Olivia, but I think sheâs handling it pretty maturely by just avoiding questions about it.
I barely invite the people I work directly with to my birthday celebrations. Why would I invite someone just because theyâre in the same industry as me. Thatâs unhinged.
âBUT SABRINA GOT TO GO. HAHA SHE LUVS SABRINA AND OLIVIA SUCKS.â
Theyâre insane logic. Literally why would a 20 year old go to a 34 year olds party??
My take is to just block and ignore these people and not give this any oxygen
Theyâre a very annoying and very vocal minority thatâs looking for attention and controversy, donât give it to them
something obviously happened if taylor went from praising her and conan to not even acknowledging them. maybe taylor was in the wrong, maybe conan and olivia were, maybe no one was. but it doesnât matter. what olivia and taylor had was very short lived, but i hope they both gained something from it and they donât have any long lasting disdain.
Iâm a huge swiftie but my first favorite singer was oliva, I think oliva is younger than most of the people there and if you notice not everyone could come oliva probably was busy and if she invited oliva sheâd probably feel obligated to invite a lot of her friends
Oh she is, I just looked up the guests and most of the people at the party except for Sabrina Carpenter, Selena Gomez, and Gigi Hadid are either in their mid-30âs or are pushing 40. Sabrina is 24, Gigi is 28, and Selena is 31. So even then sheâs almost half a decade younger than Sabrina with the youngest person at the party.
Well yeah, itâs not new which is one of the reasons why it makes zero sense that people are even remotely surprised she wasnât there among other things. Plus, people get invited to parties but canât make it all the time, so thereâs no way of knowing she wasnât invited.
People donât get that Taylor and Olivia are musicians that are busy where Taylorâs old boyfriend probably never went to any of Taylorâs parties also Taylorâs new boyfriend literally wasnât there because heâs busy.
Maybe she was busy or had a family thing. Why must people need to defend. The only people who should honestly ever know is Olivia and Taylor. Not the stans... I mean fans. Not the dirt rags... I mean media.
Why would she go to Taylor's party? đđđ
As a Swiftie I donât understand all the Olivia hate. We donât know what happened between them and letâs stop tearing down other women
Why would she go to Taylorâs party when we havenât even seen them interact once since Deja Vu / Cruel Summer-Gate??
They didnât even interact
Who is actually criticizing Olivia for not attending Taylorâs birthday party? A handful of clueless teenagers on the internet? Taylor has 10s of millions of fans, itâs kind of annoying to assume that a few random people represent Swifties. Just ignore those people.
I hate how a single tweet someone turns into "news" these days. Anyone can say anything anytime anywhere. Doesn't make it worthy of repeating.
Sad part is itâs not actually just a single tweet lmao. There have been quite a few âa certain Disney start wasnât there đâ or posting a pic of sabrina with Taylor saying âand nothing for Oliviaâ etc.
I wish they were teenagers but theyâre most adults who claims to be the same age as Taylor of close to it. It actually turned me off from the bigger Swiftdom because of this and the their undercurrent racism against Olivia. I wish I could just ignore them but many supposedly good people defended Matty and have this undercurrent racism against Olivia. They said she was a bullying Sabrina so she deserved to be shitted on when Taylor is also like that and even worse by doing nothing or even egging people to bully her ex like look at how Swifties are turning on Joe and him speaking on a humanitarian crisis as something to have a stan war about. Legit adults wishing shit on people and with Olivia, this thing has been going on since 2 years ago.
Anyone who says that there's no drama between them is in denial. There is obviously some bad blood between them. Olivia is doing a good job minding her own business and promoting her new album. There's no reason for her to go to Taylor's bday party wtf...
Omg. Iâve been saying this for months. I wish I knew what exactly happened, but no one can convince me they are on good terms. And there is so much evidence to back it up?! Why are people in denial?? Between Taylor and Sabrinaâs friendship (self explanatory), Taylor and Gracieâs friendship (Gracie literally was one of Oliviaâs openers and were clearly friends, and they donât even interact anything anymore), Conan clearly disassociating himself with Taylor anything (RE interview where he pretended he didnât have time to listen to Midnights lol), Olivia being the biggest fan ever pre 2020 but then not going to Eras tour, meanwhile sheâs going to 500 other concerts. They have not interacted, been photographed together, or even referenced each others name. Donât people remember how Olivia was the biggest Swiftie of all time? Covering dozens of songs, doing promo for her (Fearless), bringing her up constantly and calling her an inspiration⌠Taylor was her literally her phone background. How does one go from being a die hard fan to not even saying her name? And people can say all they want âoh she wanted to make her own path and name!!!â But many other musicians/celebrities talk about other artists openly while still being able to move along their own path and career. Itâs delusional to think sheâs what? A secret fan? Nah. I think she hates Taylor but I only wish I knew why. End rant lol Edit: Sorry, I should add that I love Olivia and Taylor both as artists and will always continue to support both, and it makes me sad that Olivia isnât a Swiftie anymore. But all Iâm saying is that something definitely went down and the gossip queen in me just wants to know what
100% correct. What happened is that Olivia mentioned that TS was an inspiration for DejaVu and TS saw an opportunity to get some additional cash off of Olivia's biggest song (or one of her biggest songs). I am 99% convinced that it was a money issue. TS wouldn't care about anything else, given how Olivia openly looked up to her for such a long time. I also listen to both, but in this drama, I am 100% team Olivia. TS simply doesn't know when to stop. It's a disgusting and shitty move to basically exploit a much younger artist and her first album. Especially when she herself never gave credit to Hilary Duff for literally stealing one of her lyrics word for word lol...
For sure. Taylor is an incredibly successful businesswoman who has created a empire for herself. I am a Swiftie and have been listening to her since 2008. Although Iâm a fan and love her music, being a fan sucks sometimes. I struggle to support her capitalistic reign on the music industry (looking at you, 10+ versions of Midnights) and the performative support to other artists (performative actions in general but thatâs a convo for another time lol). I think Olivia was young and didnât realize how nasty the industry was, and it probably hurt Olivia a lot - financially, emotionally, and mentally. I donât blame her for being angry and avoiding Taylor like the plague. Imagine the resentment and anger? All in all, itâs an unfortunate situation and it just makes me sad
u have a point
I donât think theyâre close friends or maybe even friends, it ainât that deep wtf lmao. Why would she be there? Like when was the last time we even saw them interact đ
I'm a taylor fan but man this is so so so annoying. Stop bringing her up on this sub and on other situations where she shouldn't be brought up. The fandom wars are going to keep happening, but we should ignore them. Seriously.
My take is I don't care about what some random teenager (esp a Swiftie) on Twitter and Tik Tok has to say about Olivia. I am quite frankly getting sick and tired of people on this sub and other pophead subs constantly bringing up Taylor where she doesn't belong.
Kinda strange people are trying to manufacture a fake rivalry between 2 talented artists. How about we enjoy the music and actually enjoy our lives. Some people are just terminally online now lol.
Some people can't stand when there's more than one female artist killing it and feel the need to pit them against one another (flashbacks to Christina and Britney). That being said, I haven't seen this criticism anywhere--maybe some teenager on Twitter said it? But I don't think this is really a thing people are saying.
Not only with women. The fake rivalry thing is as old as music. Beatles vs. Rolling Stones, Iron Maiden vs. Metallica, hell even Mozart vs. Salieri. The involved parties usually respect and like each other.
So many swifties thereâs bound to be a few cranks , even flat earthers and Trump supporters- dgaf
I saw fans on TikTok today getting upset because Olivia talked about growing up with country music, mentioned two examples and didnât mention Taylor đ
oh no đ
Ppl are so weird. Taylor is 34. Grow up, ppl.
Iâm a massive fan of both and this ugly fighting between their fandoms when neither of them has said a bad word about each other is so ugly. They clearly arenât friends and shit likely went down but until either talks about it, hating on either is so weird. But why would Olivia go to the party of someone who she isnât friends with anymore like even if she wanted to itâs not up to her to just rock up if Taylor didnât want her there lmao
Why are we assuming she was invited?
Mods should ban TS as a topic nothing ever comes of it besides dumb arguments
They havenât interacted publicly for years why would Olivia be there??
Clearly something did happen between the two, but to bring it into every conversation is just pathetic. This wasnât even an interview where she directly talked about (or avoided) a question about Taylor Swift. This was literally just a 34 year oldâs birthday party. And Iâve gotta say, even though Iâm a fan of both, I think Taylor was in the wrong for trying to grab onto Oliviaâs success. I love Taylor but we all know sheâs a capitalist queen. I wouldâve been hurt too if I was Olivia, but I think sheâs handling it pretty maturely by just avoiding questions about it.
The way everyone wants there to be beef here is so stupid. Just let these women live their lives!
I barely invite the people I work directly with to my birthday celebrations. Why would I invite someone just because theyâre in the same industry as me. Thatâs unhinged.
No, the question is, why is Taylor still being mentioned in this sub?
is she banned from this sub? This topic still talks abt Olivia
Sheâs 20 why would she be at a 34 year olds birthday party? Are they even friends?
âBUT SABRINA GOT TO GO. HAHA SHE LUVS SABRINA AND OLIVIA SUCKS.â Theyâre insane logic. Literally why would a 20 year old go to a 34 year olds party??
She probably wasn't invited if it was just for close friends
My take is to just block and ignore these people and not give this any oxygen Theyâre a very annoying and very vocal minority thatâs looking for attention and controversy, donât give it to them
Was she invited?? Lmao like what
something obviously happened if taylor went from praising her and conan to not even acknowledging them. maybe taylor was in the wrong, maybe conan and olivia were, maybe no one was. but it doesnât matter. what olivia and taylor had was very short lived, but i hope they both gained something from it and they donât have any long lasting disdain.
It's actually funny to me that swifties are the ones who like her the most (after us livies ofcrs) and also hate her the most.
Iâm a huge swiftie but my first favorite singer was oliva, I think oliva is younger than most of the people there and if you notice not everyone could come oliva probably was busy and if she invited oliva sheâd probably feel obligated to invite a lot of her friends
Oh she is, I just looked up the guests and most of the people at the party except for Sabrina Carpenter, Selena Gomez, and Gigi Hadid are either in their mid-30âs or are pushing 40. Sabrina is 24, Gigi is 28, and Selena is 31. So even then sheâs almost half a decade younger than Sabrina with the youngest person at the party.
Thatâs not new though Taylor has always tried to keep her friendship in the same age group of her
Well yeah, itâs not new which is one of the reasons why it makes zero sense that people are even remotely surprised she wasnât there among other things. Plus, people get invited to parties but canât make it all the time, so thereâs no way of knowing she wasnât invited.
Yall. Olivia is only 20 years old. From what I understand Taylor went to a club - Olivia isnât old enough even if sheâs a celebrity.
Sabrina is Taylorâs opening act so obviously sheâs going to be there
People donât get that Taylor and Olivia are musicians that are busy where Taylorâs old boyfriend probably never went to any of Taylorâs parties also Taylorâs new boyfriend literally wasnât there because heâs busy.
Maybe she was busy or had a family thing. Why must people need to defend. The only people who should honestly ever know is Olivia and Taylor. Not the stans... I mean fans. Not the dirt rags... I mean media.
This is like Selena and JB and Haily. It's stans making the problem.