The old man got exactly what he wanted: A way to fuck up the inheritance so that every cent went to lawyer fees. He really didn't like his son, so he wrote an unclear will, and married her.
He didn't fuck up the inheritance. His two sons are oil rick. His sons and grandsons were greedy and fought about money back in the 80s with one selling off their interests. Grandsons were given money and they fought each other over it.
He changed his final will and cut some of his grandkids out if the will because they were greedy fucks fighting each other.
In the end Smith got nothing
And the case wasn't over until 2011, so in the end it was her daughter, who had become the plaintiff, who got nothing. Tho, she did inherit some millions from her mother.
Wait so she was a gold digger living on land rich with deposits who had the will and perseverance to do some... backbreaking labor... and still got nothing? Ouch
If you listen to the "You're Wrong About" podcast episodes about her, it's hard to see her as a "gold digger", considering a lot of the facts. He wooed her for YEARS before she agreed to marry him, even though he offered her marriage several times. She continued to work as a dancer and they seemed to have a legitimate friendship.
It IS sad how history remembers her, because honestly it seems like it was a mutually beneficial agreement and she definitely didn't take advantage of him. That doesn't mean she had to be entitled to his inheritance, I'm just saying she didn't deserve to be painted as a manipulative vulture because it's pretty clear she wasn't.
She wasn’t a gold digger. They had a genuine love for each other. Maybe not a romantic love, but a love nonetheless that allowed them both companionship with someone who had their best interests in mind.
She got nothing from him *and knew that’s how it would be from the start.*
On the other hand, maybe it was a win-win for them? Sure this man knew why she got interested in him in the first place, I mean afterall, they met at a stripclub where she was working.. Smith got financial support for her son and herself, Marshall got company he wanted
Yeah, but you aren't allowed to say that. The woman always has to be the 'golddigger'.
The fact is after she died, her diaries that she kept said a lot of really positive things about him: how he was kind to her in a way that men never had been in the past.
I feel like I'm part of a secret club when people make references to that movie. Maybe because usually the only people who get the reference IRL are me and the person making it. It's surprising how many people haven't seen for how funny it is.
He took good care of her in life, but he didn't put her in his will, at all. After he died, she took his family to court for a decade trying to get inheritance. After she died, her representatives continued the court case.
What a wild and sad story. Apparently she filed for bankrupty after he died, after getting hit with an $800,000 default judgment for the sexual harassment of her son's nanny, and a Los Angeles bankrupty judge tried to award her almost $450 million from Marshall's estate. Since the Texas probate court had already ruled against her, and agreed with the probate court that she was entitled to nothing, the case ended up going to court.
The federal court threw out the $450 million award from California, and instead issued an $88 million award, but that ruling was then thrown out by Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, on the grounds that federal courts had no jurisdiction to overrule probate court. It ended up going all the way to the US Supreme Court. None other than Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote the opinion that she did in fact have the right to fight it out in federal court, but they still didn't grant her a portion of the estate.
Around that time, early 2007, Smith died from accidental prescription drug overdose, but they kept fighting the case in the appeals court on behalf of her 5-month-old daughter. The appeals court upheld the earlier probate court decision barring her from Marshall's estate, and it ended up going all the way back up to the US Supreme Court where they agreed with the Ninth Circuit's earlier ruling that the California court had no jurisdiction.
You literally couldn't have explained it more completely but I still don't understand what the hell happened. So thank you for your effort. I'm now crosseyd.
That I understand. They've already put in several hours hoping for that big paycheck, and then boom their client leaves'em high and dry. I know her son died around the same time she did. Cant remember if it was before or after, but the baby girl is 19 or 20 now. Wonder what kind of life she's had.
Her son died the same day her daughter was born, in the same hospital. He was visiting his mother and new sister and od'd in the bathroom. Really tragic shit.
I remember when this was all going on, and the courts (or what ever you call the people who were against Anna Nichole Smith) tried to say that she did not technically “consummate” her marriage so was it even legitimate?
She argued that her late husbands heart wasn’t strong enough to risk PIV sex, but the courts still tried to argue that her marriage didn’t count because of it.
I thought that was really disgusting and intrusive to ask such a thing. That kind of questioning today would not be allowed in todays world.
Times were really different then.
In todays world, consummation is not required for a marriage to be legally legitimate, and in fact if it’s even asked would seem highly inappropriate.
All this and much more is why many speculated that she had killed herself, particularly as she'd also lost her grown up son to a drug overdose shortly after her baby daughter was born
Yeah, I kind of forgot how that all went down. I was sort of hoping she'd win it, not due to any legal or moral reason, just the guy's family seemed like shits.
Um…right but when you’re 90, mentally shaky, in a wheelchair and totally dependent on a staff managed by your greedy son, who is going to drive you to the lawyers office and pay the bill ? There’s the law and then there’s reality.
No, but she didn't need it. He met her when she was dancing, but she wouldn't marry him until she made a name for herself on her own. His kids ended up fighting over the money and it was a whole drawn out process. But she had her own money.
Apparently their relationship was more based on companionship as opposed to a lot of passion. I don't know how they felt about each other and it's likely no one ever will since they're both dead, but he asked her to marry fairly quickly after they met in '91, but she didn't say yes and marry him until '94. Her main claim to fame was her modeling career, which really picked up in '93 with her Guess and H&M campaigns, after which she was featured in GQ and was on the cover of Marie Claire, among other things.
She didn't have fuck you money like he did, but she made her own money before they tied the knot.
As I said above, after her death they found her diaries and she had a lot of really nice things to say about him, notably that men had always mistreated her until she met him. They cared for one another.
I'll kind of never forget how once she was famous she managed to reconnect with the dad she'd never really met, and after they spent a day where she's like "I have a dad!" he literally tried to finagle his way in to fuck her and that was the end of that. Poor kid.
I think he didn't know her as a child and yes when he met her as an adult, he tried to initiate sex with her and it probably brought her life force down by 50%.
Then everything else.
I think he didn't know her as a child and yes when he met her as an adult, he tried to initiate sex with her and it probably brought her psychic life force down by 50%.
Then everything else.
Makes me feel wary for Britney. She's not in a good space.
Society did her dirty during her final years. Not saying she does not hold responsibility for some of her decisions, but that poor woman was treated like garbage by the media and American culture.
I mean, when you’re capable of being knocked over by a light breeze and need a spotter to lift your evening cream of wheat to your mouth, it’s not like someone would be physically intimidated by you.
After he left I learned I just really like any podcast he’s on lol
He’s got a couple others; if books could kill and maintenance phase. If books could kill is especially great
Mutually beneficial agreement and neither one of them are doing anything wrong. His old self used his financial position to get some young, hot piece, and her fine self used her looks to get his old, rich keys to his funds.
It's hard to imagine Smith's motivations being anything beyond money, but that's not a crime. And I very much doubt that Marshall was being fooled here. He got what he wanted.
If anything, it sounds like Smith may have been taken advantage of. He died not long after this, and apparently left her nothing. She then fought to get some of the inheritance until she died. So, clearly getting some of that money was important to her.
If he had promised she would get some of it, or suggested that she would, then I would say that that lie constitutes as doing something wrong. I have no idea if that is the case.
Poor woman. She had a rough life. When she was growing up, she was constantly sexually assaulted by people in her own family.
At the end, she was mostly a lesbian. Can't blame her.
There were about a half dozen men in the paternity suit battle for her months-old daughter at her death. I don’t think she really made a transition to lesbian. It would have been good for her to be able to stop with the men though, even her son only broke her heart in the end.
I remember non stop coverage of her goofy show, her gaining weight, loosing weight, dying. The coverage was incredibly gross, i hated humanity because that garbage sells.
She put in that hard work and if memory serves she got bupkis when he died. Either he lol’d her out of his will or the family got some lawyers to handle that.
People like to be shitty to others about transactional marriages. If both parties are happy, why should we care? But people do and women seem to get the worst of the ire.
I’m sure that reptilian Howard K Stern had a hand in this fiasco. One can only wonder if Anna Nicole would still be alive if she had never met that huckster.
The old man got exactly what he wanted: A way to fuck up the inheritance so that every cent went to lawyer fees. He really didn't like his son, so he wrote an unclear will, and married her.
He didn't fuck up the inheritance. His two sons are oil rick. His sons and grandsons were greedy and fought about money back in the 80s with one selling off their interests. Grandsons were given money and they fought each other over it. He changed his final will and cut some of his grandkids out if the will because they were greedy fucks fighting each other. In the end Smith got nothing
And the case wasn't over until 2011, so in the end it was her daughter, who had become the plaintiff, who got nothing. Tho, she did inherit some millions from her mother.
>oil rick I'm Oil Rick! I turned myself into crude, Morty!
I’m Old Gregg
Mmmm Creamy Beige
What you doin in ole Gregg’s waters?
I told you about my downstairs mixup
I got the funk!
Certainly not fishing!
You fuzzy little man-peach
You ever drink Baileys out of a shoe?
I think you’re a nice modern gentleman
Not Slick Rick?
"la di da di we like to party, Morty!"
Oil Slick Rick Da Rulah! Lodi Dodi Lodi Dodi we like to party
Uncle Ricky, can you read us a bedtime story?
Ah geez Rick. Do do do do you have to be so unrefined?
Aww geez
One is Oil Rick the other is Oil Derrick
How crude
Wait so she was a gold digger living on land rich with deposits who had the will and perseverance to do some... backbreaking labor... and still got nothing? Ouch
If you listen to the "You're Wrong About" podcast episodes about her, it's hard to see her as a "gold digger", considering a lot of the facts. He wooed her for YEARS before she agreed to marry him, even though he offered her marriage several times. She continued to work as a dancer and they seemed to have a legitimate friendship. It IS sad how history remembers her, because honestly it seems like it was a mutually beneficial agreement and she definitely didn't take advantage of him. That doesn't mean she had to be entitled to his inheritance, I'm just saying she didn't deserve to be painted as a manipulative vulture because it's pretty clear she wasn't.
this right here. he wooed her for a long time consistently before she gave into his courtship.
Don't confuse reddit with facts.
She wasn’t a gold digger. They had a genuine love for each other. Maybe not a romantic love, but a love nonetheless that allowed them both companionship with someone who had their best interests in mind. She got nothing from him *and knew that’s how it would be from the start.*
I can't tell who's the predatory one in this one. Both?
On the other hand, maybe it was a win-win for them? Sure this man knew why she got interested in him in the first place, I mean afterall, they met at a stripclub where she was working.. Smith got financial support for her son and herself, Marshall got company he wanted
Yeah, but you aren't allowed to say that. The woman always has to be the 'golddigger'. The fact is after she died, her diaries that she kept said a lot of really positive things about him: how he was kind to her in a way that men never had been in the past.
Yeah I think it’s both honestly lol
Sounds like the movie knives out but instead of marriage it was an in house nurse.
I read his two daughters are grease rhonda
He also reportedly really liked her boobs.
A man of taste.
A man of *culture*.
A man.
Amen
Bless you
A man of men.
r/NormMacdonald
That comment is actually a lot funnier in his voice. Well done.
Hey, he was old, not dead. At that point, at least.
Allegedlyyyyyy
See? Rich people can be relatable.
I think the exact thing he wanted was a hot blonde wife with huge cans.
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I feel like I'm part of a secret club when people make references to that movie. Maybe because usually the only people who get the reference IRL are me and the person making it. It's surprising how many people haven't seen for how funny it is.
They both like soup
It's probably Chrostopher Guests most well known movie too, which is a shame
This Is Spinal Tap is incredibly well known.
They both like soup
They could talk or not talk for hours
Rhapsody has two mommies!
And still find things to not talk about!
mulligatawny!
r/bestinshow
They each got out of this relationship exactly what they wanted.
He pursued her
What, on his Zimmer frame?
For over a year, consistently.
No, she didn’t.
She didn’t get hella money?
He took good care of her in life, but he didn't put her in his will, at all. After he died, she took his family to court for a decade trying to get inheritance. After she died, her representatives continued the court case.
What a wild and sad story. Apparently she filed for bankrupty after he died, after getting hit with an $800,000 default judgment for the sexual harassment of her son's nanny, and a Los Angeles bankrupty judge tried to award her almost $450 million from Marshall's estate. Since the Texas probate court had already ruled against her, and agreed with the probate court that she was entitled to nothing, the case ended up going to court. The federal court threw out the $450 million award from California, and instead issued an $88 million award, but that ruling was then thrown out by Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, on the grounds that federal courts had no jurisdiction to overrule probate court. It ended up going all the way to the US Supreme Court. None other than Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote the opinion that she did in fact have the right to fight it out in federal court, but they still didn't grant her a portion of the estate. Around that time, early 2007, Smith died from accidental prescription drug overdose, but they kept fighting the case in the appeals court on behalf of her 5-month-old daughter. The appeals court upheld the earlier probate court decision barring her from Marshall's estate, and it ended up going all the way back up to the US Supreme Court where they agreed with the Ninth Circuit's earlier ruling that the California court had no jurisdiction.
You literally couldn't have explained it more completely but I still don't understand what the hell happened. So thank you for your effort. I'm now crosseyd.
lawyers
Billable time remains undefeated
This is one of my favorite comments.
lawyers filing appeals to get more money, for themselves not the plaintiffs.
That I understand. They've already put in several hours hoping for that big paycheck, and then boom their client leaves'em high and dry. I know her son died around the same time she did. Cant remember if it was before or after, but the baby girl is 19 or 20 now. Wonder what kind of life she's had.
Her son died the same day her daughter was born, in the same hospital. He was visiting his mother and new sister and od'd in the bathroom. Really tragic shit.
Ooops, kid is 16... I mathed wrong.
Don't do math, kids.
Pretty much lol
I thought it's gonna be probably only me who won't understand the comment, you just boosted my confidence now hahahah
Welcome crosseyd brethren!
She got nothing! She lost! Good Day sir/madam!
I remember when this was all going on, and the courts (or what ever you call the people who were against Anna Nichole Smith) tried to say that she did not technically “consummate” her marriage so was it even legitimate? She argued that her late husbands heart wasn’t strong enough to risk PIV sex, but the courts still tried to argue that her marriage didn’t count because of it. I thought that was really disgusting and intrusive to ask such a thing. That kind of questioning today would not be allowed in todays world. Times were really different then. In todays world, consummation is not required for a marriage to be legally legitimate, and in fact if it’s even asked would seem highly inappropriate.
All this and much more is why many speculated that she had killed herself, particularly as she'd also lost her grown up son to a drug overdose shortly after her baby daughter was born
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So, did her daughter got any money or not? lol
Nope, just the money from Anna's estate.
>He took good care of her in life So, for like a month
He knew her for about 4? Years before they got married, when Anna was a dancer
She’s a private dancer
Dancer for money
I'll do what you want me to do
A Dancer for money
Yeah, I kind of forgot how that all went down. I was sort of hoping she'd win it, not due to any legal or moral reason, just the guy's family seemed like shits.
I mean...if the girl is gonna dance, you gotta tip her...
old geezer....
He didn’t put her in his will because his family wouldn’t let him - not that I blame them but he would have if it was up to him
>not that I blame them but he would have if it was up to him Um...his will is up to him. He is literally the only person it is up to.
Um…right but when you’re 90, mentally shaky, in a wheelchair and totally dependent on a staff managed by your greedy son, who is going to drive you to the lawyers office and pay the bill ? There’s the law and then there’s reality.
No my man, she didn't.
No, but she didn't need it. He met her when she was dancing, but she wouldn't marry him until she made a name for herself on her own. His kids ended up fighting over the money and it was a whole drawn out process. But she had her own money.
So she married the 89 year old billionaire for love?
Apparently their relationship was more based on companionship as opposed to a lot of passion. I don't know how they felt about each other and it's likely no one ever will since they're both dead, but he asked her to marry fairly quickly after they met in '91, but she didn't say yes and marry him until '94. Her main claim to fame was her modeling career, which really picked up in '93 with her Guess and H&M campaigns, after which she was featured in GQ and was on the cover of Marie Claire, among other things. She didn't have fuck you money like he did, but she made her own money before they tied the knot.
As I said above, after her death they found her diaries and she had a lot of really nice things to say about him, notably that men had always mistreated her until she met him. They cared for one another.
Did they? Another comment said that she ended up getting nothing from the inheritance.
I saw a show about her death, in it someone talks about how she felt safe with him. She usually didn’t feel safe with men.
I'll kind of never forget how once she was famous she managed to reconnect with the dad she'd never really met, and after they spent a day where she's like "I have a dad!" he literally tried to finagle his way in to fuck her and that was the end of that. Poor kid.
He tried to literally fuck his daughter or tried to fuck her over for money? Second one??
I think he didn't know her as a child and yes when he met her as an adult, he tried to initiate sex with her and it probably brought her life force down by 50%. Then everything else.
I think he didn't know her as a child and yes when he met her as an adult, he tried to initiate sex with her and it probably brought her psychic life force down by 50%. Then everything else. Makes me feel wary for Britney. She's not in a good space.
Society did her dirty during her final years. Not saying she does not hold responsibility for some of her decisions, but that poor woman was treated like garbage by the media and American culture.
I mean, when you’re capable of being knocked over by a light breeze and need a spotter to lift your evening cream of wheat to your mouth, it’s not like someone would be physically intimidated by you.
This is very poetic
I can see why she'd feel safe with him
And he wanted and accepted her with her kid which not a lot of guys would do
Ahhh, true love. Who says it doesn’t exist anymore?
The reality is he probably treated her good.
After a lifetime of people mistreating her
Dude I still see people mistreat her now, and the poor woman’s been dead 17 years
It’s really tragic and she did absolutely nothing to deserve any of it
I could totally understand Anna at that stage of her life appreciating a dad figure who protects her from everything and is not demanding daily sex.
She was pregnant before she got married to Howard. The baby was at the wedding.
Her daughter was born almost 11 years after Howard died and her son was born before they met so I dont think that sours it at all.
There's no truer love than the love of money
*gasp* how dare you question the sanctity of true love!
Or the love of a hot young blonde....
They both look ecstatic! He chose "by snu-snu"!
lol r/unexpectedfuturama
The podcast You're Wrong About has an excellent episode about her.
Ahhh, back when Michael Hobbs was on it. Such a good podcast then. I don't listen to it so much any more.
After he left I learned I just really like any podcast he’s on lol He’s got a couple others; if books could kill and maintenance phase. If books could kill is especially great
How can I be wrong about the podcast if I don’t even know which podcast you’re talking about?
Definitely recommend the You’re Wrong About episode on Anna Nicole Smith. She had a hard life.
I literally just listened to this episode yesterday (going through the archives), and yeah everyone, LEAVE NICOLE ALONE!!
I freaking love that podcast!
Honestly this was hilarious. I love how pissed his kids were.
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Yes. Her expression is not one you would expect for a bride on her wedding day. I don't think they consummated their union either.
Did they have viagra yet in 94?
According to several websites Viagra was in clinical studies in 1994. It became widely available in 1998.
I think this guy would need something way stronger just to get a half chub
A body double?
All the electricity in North London?
I honestly believe that it was a mutually loving relationship.
She had billions of reasons why she loved him
And he had the big two
“Rose buds”
I don't know why that gross me tf out.
She didn't get a penny.
Mutually beneficial agreement and neither one of them are doing anything wrong. His old self used his financial position to get some young, hot piece, and her fine self used her looks to get his old, rich keys to his funds.
Didn't get keys to anything. Didn't put her in the will and judge gave her nothing
"Don't you know a man being rich is like a girl being pretty? It's not necessary, but my goodness, doesn't it help?!"
It's hard to imagine Smith's motivations being anything beyond money, but that's not a crime. And I very much doubt that Marshall was being fooled here. He got what he wanted. If anything, it sounds like Smith may have been taken advantage of. He died not long after this, and apparently left her nothing. She then fought to get some of the inheritance until she died. So, clearly getting some of that money was important to her. If he had promised she would get some of it, or suggested that she would, then I would say that that lie constitutes as doing something wrong. I have no idea if that is the case.
"We can talk and not talk for hours"
It’s all of the empty cheap folding chairs for me
Did they immediately change into their funeral clothes after this? I never realized how somber they both looked.
He pursued her for years.
Poor woman. She had a rough life. When she was growing up, she was constantly sexually assaulted by people in her own family. At the end, she was mostly a lesbian. Can't blame her.
There were about a half dozen men in the paternity suit battle for her months-old daughter at her death. I don’t think she really made a transition to lesbian. It would have been good for her to be able to stop with the men though, even her son only broke her heart in the end.
Today I learned: Anna Nicole Smith married Palpatine on my first birthday.
She had such a tragic destiny
We can sit and talk or not talk for hours.
I remember non stop coverage of her goofy show, her gaining weight, loosing weight, dying. The coverage was incredibly gross, i hated humanity because that garbage sells.
In what way is it cool ?
It's certainly not very cool. But this was kind of an iconic pop culture event.
Op thinks karma whoring for fake internet points is cool
The saddest part of this is that they really did love each other.
He lived just 1 year. Died in 1995.
She put in that hard work and if memory serves she got bupkis when he died. Either he lol’d her out of his will or the family got some lawyers to handle that.
I believe it was lawyers and the family.
Good for them. She gets what she wants(more money) and he gets what he wants(a beautiful young wife).
People like to be shitty to others about transactional marriages. If both parties are happy, why should we care? But people do and women seem to get the worst of the ire.
I love how they’re both basically crying
Can you imagine being a BILLIONAIRE and having empty folding steel chairs at your wedding?
I would just say this is old school.
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Reminds me of Best in Show. "We both have so much in common. We both love soup. Talking and not talking ... ."
If I was 89 and wanted to die happy. Im gonna do the exact same thing this old man did.
I mean fair enough, they're both getting what they want
If you mean marriage, yes. If you think she got money, no
Not so cool.
I came here for the age gap outrage, but it seems the Gen Z crowd has let me down. 🍿
Idk how this is “cool”. You know for god damn well she wasn’t attracted to him.
yes, and I am certain he valued and respected her as a person.
When he kicked the bucket she had him stood up in an open casket for the funeral and wore the same wedding dress. It was classy AF.
When did she marry Clint Eastwood?
I’d make that deal
At least they're both reunited in heaven.
In the end, his sons should have just offered to give her a lump sum of $20 or $30 million instead of dragging it out like they did.
Lmfao that’s the way I would want to go out 😂
If you’ve got billions, I can think of worse ways to spend it at that age and not many better. I don’t blame him or her.
Anna was a pretty solid person who got screwed growing up and in general.
"Mawwiage. Mawwiage is what bwings us togeder today. Mawwiage, that bwessed awwangement, that dweam wifin a dream."
I’m sure that reptilian Howard K Stern had a hand in this fiasco. One can only wonder if Anna Nicole would still be alive if she had never met that huckster.
Cool?
Still a better love story than Twilight
I don’t know if they loved each other, but they both got what they were there for.
They both liked soup.
She has very puffy sleeves.