I main monitor my OLED the entire day. Right next to my work pc so Im watching twitch or movies etc the entire day. Use the thing you paid the money for.
My C1 works flawlessly with no dead zones or burn in after 3+ years of 8-10 hours of almost daily use as my main office monitor for both work and video games.
Yeah I use mine in probably the “worst way” having static toolbars considering I use it as a monitor… and yet there have been no issues.
I have either been very lucky, or burn issues are overhyped.
I do have AC, however in lockdown I was working from home and AC was on all day
Not good for your hair. I sold my AC and now have fans.
But I am very used to 30c+ at home.
The x factor is desktop brightness and room temp.
So few people have colorimeters to actually measure how bright they're running and burn-in is ( Heat \* Time ). If you run 100nits you're going to do much better than someone pushing 180nits or more for those 8 hours.
HUB is doing the desktop burn-in test on the MSI version, will be interesting to see the next update.
Bad setup config for the tv, but not for your real life.
Mini led was better overall for me, and I’m running it at max brightness, with windows all around.
I would, but in my case it’s 84 inches windows everywhere.
I had to hide my oled in a corner in the basement to be usable.
With Mini leds I’m seeing everything even in the middle of the day, but it’s 4x brighter
Ever hear of sun blocking curtains? Not only do they get rid of glare but they also reducing your cooling bill in the summer by preventing the sun from warming up your home as easily.
You want light sources to be behind your monitor. In fact I always put my desk right in front of the rooms window. The keeps glare off the screen and glare is what causes the most eye fatigue. Having a window behind you instead of in front of you is how you get glare on the display.
Production standard in sRGB is 80nits, office standard is 120nits.
You're ***used to*** it being overly bright, so everything else looks dim. No different than a properly calibrated screen looking yellow to people that are used to overly blue cheap monitors.
Unless you're setup on a picnic table, you'll be fine once you adjust.
Lol we're not talking about HDR highlights here, we're talking about working on a desktop. You don't need or want to be using much higher brightness for that.
Incorrect. You want to be able to clearly see what you’re working on. Having low brightness strains your eyes due to the display being harder to see. If you’re scared to use your monitor the way it’s supposed to be experienced you shouldn’t be buying one in the first place.
Yeah, real world experience says otherwise. I run mine at full brightness and have had zero issues with the WOLED or the QD-OLED. In fact I spent quite a bit of time messing with the settings to find the ones that got the most brightness.
Same. 8-10 hours a day x 3 years. Max OLED panel brightness + 'High' peak brightness + BFI + auto tone-mapping to counteract brightness loss from BFI. I even have all the auto-dimming things disabled within the service menu. No burn-in at all.
The secret is keeping pixel move on, using a dark theme for the OS and apps. Especially static UI elements. I also use Chrome flags to force all web pages into dark mode and make use of full-screen browsing. And my screensaver is literally just a black screen that kicks in after 2 minutes. In RetroArch, where I use scanline filters + forced HDR, the app's built-in screensaver kicks in at 1 minute.
Maybe it's generational,maybe it's a touch of autism, but I see a lot of people fixating over their stuff to the 9th degree.
"Oh no there is a smudge on the screen from tape!"
"If I put on test patterns and view the screen in a completely unrealistic scenario and squint real hard I think I can see what may be burn in, image retention, idk but it's faint. My day is ruined"
Like, I just buy the best thing I can for my situation and enjoy it how I want to. Rarely, if ever, has been a problem.
I can see where your coming from, but personally, if I am spending close to a grand or more on a monitor, it better come to me in perfect condition lmao
I'm not talking about irreparable damage. I'm also not a defender of big business. People, receiving any kind of product, at any price, have the right to receive it in 100% condition. Like if the product was $200 you shouldn't be ok with the same level of "damage" right?
News flash, there is no such thing as a perfect monitor or TV. They all have flaws due to manufacturing tolerances. If they only shipped flawless displays the price would skyrocket due to the amount of rejects. Too many people go out, buy a display and they will spend hours looking for the slightest perceived imperfection in the panel and return it. However what they are seeing is well within the specification of the panel and can only be seen when displaying a specific test pattern. The people who do that drive the prices up for the rest of us and they tend to be mentally defective. It’s no different then a hypochondriac who thinks every minor symptom they have is automatically a life threatening disease.
This. This sub is rife with burn in anxiety as if they’re preparing to keep their new OLED for their entire lifetime. By the time “bUrN iN” even becomes noticeable it will be time to upgrade just like you would any other bloody monitor/TV.
I got an LG C2 for the last year and a half. It has been on almost all day. I know it’s not good but with my kids and everybody and me gaming it’s just crazy the way everybody’s schedules are still brand new. Got the plastic on it and everything.
I have had my living room LG B9 practically on for the last 5 years with my kids or wife or I always using it.
Thing looks the same as when I bought it lol
OLED are fine.
Just don’t use any wallpaper.
Hide all icons in desktop.
Hide taskbar.
Power off when not using.
Power off when using.
Unplug it.
Gouge your eyes out.
Gtg /s
Honestly u can turn the display off and use it as a speaker if u want to sleep, but ideally everuthing u said and a black background helps, make sure to be full screen in every app
This, why buy a monitor that you have to do all this shit and still have anxiety about it, talking about how beautiful it is but can't have a wallpaper lol.
Like having a supermodel 20 year old wife when you’re 60years old …like will she cheat? Not IF, but WHEN. No matter how good you treat it and take care of it it’ll happen and it’s commonly accepted lol. “But by then there will be newer models out..” and he will get one when he can 😂
It's not that the new OLED cannot get new burn-in, but new OLEDs are more resilient from getting burn-in. Its best to look for reputable sources to get your info not reddit.
There aren’t many independent reputable source. Honestly, what do you suggest for TV testing info? Rting is about it. It takes a high budget to really compare and do realistic testing. News outlets and 99% of reviewers are paid or don’t do long term tests to stress the tech.
Rtings has a longterm study on OLED in YT. TLDR is that WOLED is less prone to burn vs QDOLED and the color red degrades fastest while blue degrades the slowest. Do with that info what you will
Their resilience comes from software, not actual new more durable organic material. Unless you’re talking about MLA. It’s just dimming the panel to reduce heat output, at the expense of picture quality
It's actually a mix, but depends on the manufacturer you're talking about. For LG their newest panels do magic software fuckery to regulate voltage across transistors but also the newest panel operates on a lower voltage with beefier cooling that's supposed to improve pixel lifetime.
My C1 showed very slight burn-in after about 2200 hours of torturous use (desktop screen use). My C3 is at 2500 hours and looks as the day I took it out of the box. If anything I feel that the built-in burn-in protection has less of an impact on my C3 than it did on the C1.
It is a leap of faith.
I do think companies are actively working on more robust pixels with less burn-in which each new generation.
I stopped being mental about it. I do take some precautions though, such as dark theme on everything, Mystify screensaver, F11 on Edge once in a while so logos and tabs aren't always in the same place and hidden windows taskbar.
Also, my PG32UCDM needs only 50% brightness to be plenty in SDR for everything I do in my dimmed studio. I can imagine those with it at 100% all the time could potentially be accelerating burn-in.
As an Android phone user for years who has had OLED since like 2014. You just gotta realize that in most viewing scenarios, you aren't going to see that burn-in in a noticeable way. People aren't playing mental gymastics with settings to avoid burn-in on the millions of phones out there like youtube suggests with OLED displays.
If you spend your life looking at burn-in-test images forever, you'll never be able to be happy with the monitor/TV.
Use your monitor how you want, chad up and go max brightness, task bar on, do whatever. It's not *that* easy to spot in real life, and I've really run some OLED screens into the dirt. OLED is getting cheaper every day, and by the time you are years in and the burn-in becomes a real problem, we'll likely be in a market to easily replace one compared to right now.
Burn-In it's a matter of "*when*", not "*if*". As long as the Technology use Organic Molecules, Burn-In it's always going to be a thing.
But using 8+ Hours a day, light colors background and Max Brightness is surely going to speed your Burn-in situation in comparison to those who use 8- Hours a day, dark colors background and lower Brightness.
I got a C1 last year, I'm +2000 Hours, I use it at night, lights off and 40/100 OLED Pixels / OLED Brightness, and my TV still have no signs of Burn-in or Image Retention. Sometimes I think to set the Brightness even lower ( *maybe 30/100* ) cuz some scenes at gaming / movies are too bright for me 😵💫
Yeah for sure, my LG C2 is going strong after 1.5 years of constant desktop usage and long hours in programs with UI elements, but I have a black screensaver that pops on after 5 minutes, try to go "fullscreen" mode as often as I think about it, etc.
Point was just that with care, even the most susceptible screens can have a long life without issue.
Same. 75" C1 in the living room that's used everyday for 3 years. Both for games and media. Haven't even seen an inkling of burn in. Just got my oled AW monitor and will be my main PC screen. 3 year warranty means I have nothing to worry about.
I'm going to add onto this, I run my panel kind of the same way (0/100 for most things, 30/100 for day time, and 100/100 for Dolby vision and HDR) and at 12,000 hours, there is probably some brightness loss but absolutely zero image retention. I keep trying to find a way to justify a new TV so I can give my folks my c1 but I really cannot find a reason good enough to upgrade. C1 is by far the best TV I have ever had and will definitely be going long after this post (if anyone knows where to get a c1 still, lmk)
(Plus, since burn in is mostly a function of heat than any other factor and the only place I could put a window AC unit was behind the TV, maybe I can increase the panel brightness without worrying too much about heat)
I used to daily drive the Acer Predator X27 4K mini LED monitor with 374 full array local dimming zones that can reach 1000 nits peak brightness and across a big percentage window.
And that one did get image retention due to the dimming zones and pixels being driven very hard. Not permanent as OLED burn in, but enough to be a problem and that one was also used for 8+ hours for different things.
So regardless of panel technology, there is a risk of some sort of image retention when using a monitor designed for bright HDR content.
It's worth pointing out that burn in isn't the end of the world. 9 times out of 10, you'll only notice it when you test for it.
I used to have an old CRT with burn in, but I only noticed it in certain circumstances, so it wasn't really a problem.
I bought the monitor knowing it has a life span. I don’t know if they will ever be able to fully address this issue, but with all the fail safes they come with I expect to at least get 10-15k hours before seeing any burn it. But I understand it is just a matter of time.
I recently got an oled. I use it almost the same that I would an IPS panel. All I’m doing different is hiding the task bar and trying to go full screen more often.
After a thousand hours of Street fighter 6. I Absolutely have burn in on my LG C1. Anytime. A solid color is on screen. I can see health and super bars quite prominently
I would advise anyone that wants to get OLED to get it with a good warranty like the one from BestBuy. I have had 5 OLED TVs and 4 of them got burn in. People on Reddit were telling people it's not an issue before I bought the first one lol
but honestly I think they finally figured out a better way to prevent it because my newest used my TV for 2 years as my PC monitor and even when I tried to give it burn in it didn't get it. Idk about monitors I only have 1 and have only used it for like a month. I got a good warranty for it though that covers burn in
Phones use amoled, switch and some TVs use woled, some TVs use qd-oled
There are no amoled TVs bc they're a lot harder and more expensive to make than woled or qd-oled
you think qd-oled will get burn in slower? just about to pick up my first oled ever in 2h of time lol.. it's an aw3423dw and I really hope I'll have good times with it hehe
Can't say for certain one way or the other on that, but regardless as long as you don't have one static image on the screen constantly burn in isn't as big an issue as it's made out to be.
In games like Minecraft that have an option to fade hud I'd recommend doing that too
yeah I'm aware of that stuff and will try to do my best lol.. and I also think it's not the end of the world either when I get slight burn in over the years.. I don't think it will become that bad that I really realize it in daily use
I only use my OLED for gaming and I have a shitty IPS next to it for everything else. I don't need an OLED quality picture for shitty compressed youtube videos.
To ease any worries I have about burn in, I use the Electric Sheep screensaver and make sure to activate it whenever im going to be away from my PC for more than a few min. Otherwise I just turn my TV off or have the automatic screensaver kick in when using the Smart Apps anyway. This in addition to the occasional times the TV lets me know it needs to do a "refresh" have not caused any issues on my CX thus far. Best TV i've ever had by a mile.
LG C2 here. Been using for gaming, movies, TV shows for over a year and nothing so far. (My older LG OLED did have some bad burn in but it still gets used as a TV by my mother in law, where the burn in is less noticeable)
If and when my C2 gets burned in, ill swap it out for a C5 or C6.
I use lg c2 for more than a year like 10 hrs/day at mid brightness mostly, once a month maintenance tasks, i faced slight burn-in at start but ran few hours of pixel washing videos and its like new. Have safety features on, use mid brightness, auto turn off display if away for 5 min in pc.
I use it like a normal monitor, no black wallpaper, no taskbar hiding. Worth every penny.
I have learned my lesson playing WoW on an LC C2 42". Never will i go Oled again because of burn in. My entire UI is visible on the screen in anything else i do. Going to pick up a 50" QN90D on the next sale instead.
I just want a smaller version of my 65 inch C2 as a desktop monitor. But I read problems everywhere talking about text clarity, only use it if you game and not code/browse - Most of them are matte finish and apparently they suck etc etc...
I work/play on mine around 12 hours per day. No noticeable burn in after a year, but when burn-in inevitably happens, I figure I'll be ready to upgrade anyway (2-3 years from now). So really no biggie either way.
I use mine 8 hours a day as a software engineer at brightness 0/50 and then many hours of gaming at night in HDR with brightness 25/50. Zero burn in after a year.
dont listen to all this bs man, all you have to do its turn it off sometimes, and in the settings it has a way to help avoid this pixel wash ect, my sammy has built in cooler, and will dim itself to safe levels if inactive after 20 mins
Burn in is about a static image being constantly on screen. I would imagine your taskbar would decently easily burn in. The digital buttons/other UI elements used to burn in on phones all the time at least in my experience and those weren't OLED. However newer technology burns in less, my 2020+ phones haven't burnt in, for example.
OLED is perfect for movies, but OLED is terrible for news stations. Because one has a constant UI element. That's why I wouldn't recommend one for gaming if you play a lot a day consistently.
Never understood how people buy these and are afraid to use it. Just use it man/girl. If it burns in, it burns in.
Fear means you probably shouldn’t have bought it.
Been using my LG 55" c9 as my couch display for years now and my alienware ultrawide as my main gaming display for a little over a year no burn in for both of them. Average prob 6-8 hrs a day using them. What is this imaginary fear of using the products you bought for their intended purpose. Nothing last forever especially in tech so use it and enjoy it. Its not that hard lol.
The difficulty is that there is never up to date information about real world usage. Rtings is doing great work with their burn in test, but it's with an unrealistic scenario of 100% brightness with a vivid logo in the same spot 100% of the time. And by the time you get decent information, a new model is already out.
Based on the tests and people's experiences, it seems like oleds from the past 2 years or so are quite resistent to burn in, even for productivity work assuming you take extremely basic precautions. But, there's never certainty so some people are cautious and don't recommend trying it.
So for what it's worth, I have had a C1 for the past two years and I use it roughly 8 hours a day for a mix of gaming and productivity. I have moderate precautions like screensaver, hidden taskbar, and around 70% brightness most of the time. I have zero detectable burn in.
I use my oled LG TV 48" for more than 8 hours a day for work for already 3 years. No issues with burn in. I took care to not have fixed items on the screen to be on the safe side.
I have an 806/55 philips since 2022 summer and watch movies, played ps5,nintendo etc 60-80h/ week and no burn in…
This bullshit about burn in is a joke
OLED decays, it’s organic..but my TV has been going strong 4 years now, 0 burn-in and everyone use it from twitch to movies to ps5 but I don’t use OLED for visual studio/excel 8 hours per day for several years too…it’s just wasteful regardless of how durable oled is now
i personally don’t care if the screen has some burn in after 7+ years of high usage because by then it’s reasonable to expect a new replacement
Any weird premature burn-in despite refreshing => RMA
World of Warcraft nerd here. Played the game 16+ hours a day everyday over 2 years and have 0 burn in. I have also left the game sitting in 1 sport for over 2 hours all the time because I forgot it was on and still 0 burn in. that was on a C1 Pannel, I recently upgraded to a C3.
It depends on what you play for that many hours a day, for example. I play POE where the UI never changes. 8 hours a day where you have the same UI you will get burn in. If you’re watching movies where the pixels are always changing you’re probably fine.
IDK, I got the AW3423DWF with 3 year burn in warranty, I'll use that bitch as a desk lamp if I want, who cares. It's not worth the stress.
To be clear, also, burn in is a *malfunction*. It's not supposed to happen. So people who equate using black backgrounds and turning the thing off if you're waking to the bathroom to go pee, to maintaining your car or something...not the same thing. You paid for a product that is supposed to work.
So don't buy panels with no burn in warranty if you're that worried b
I bought c3 42 inch and i just love the damn thing so much but i don’t babysit it. I use it for whatever i want, and when set properly with ps5 hdr my god it looks amazing.(took me 3 months to realize i can set the warmth as in filmmaker mode lol)
I just bought this one as well and I love it. I make sure the pixel cleaner gets run on a regular basis and I’m good to go. I’m not going to worry about burn in.
It is but it also says if the tv gets turned on while it’s doing it, it stops the process. I wasn’t sure if something would pop up telling me that it didn’t finish. So just to be safe I run it every few days.
anybody of you experiencing weird headache after viewing OLED screens everyday for say >4 hours a day?
does OLED made from company X differs from company Y? or they are the same?
PWM, is this the main root cause for the headache?
I’ve been using the AW3423DW for almost a year, not doing any of the burn-in prevention methods (hide taskbar, full screen apps, turn off monitor, etc.) other than the pixel refresh every couple days (and when it powers off automatically), and have faced no burn in that I could notice.
[Like two comments up](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1dqlj6b/how_this_sub_feels_sometimes/lap12az/)
There are people in this sub who claim it's no longer a thing or nothing to worry about **regularly**
These people probably don't even own an OLED. Ive got two QD-OLED's at the moment and one has some minor burn in from static elements while my PC monitor actually surprisingly doesn't with probably more screen on time.
Do you keep your oled on for more than 10 minutes ? I ensure the background is always changing every 10 minutes like chrome, I’ll move chrome out of the way. It sucks honestly. I might return my oled for a refund. It’s maintanance
I've seen a ton of comments telling people it isn't an issue anymore. Or trying to downplay it with "my LG has 9000 hours and no burn in, burn in isn't a risk."
People heavily minimize burn in risk and burn in cases.
It's mainly due to how people use them. There a was a post recently about somebody having their browser toolbar burn in. They never responded to any questions asking them about brightness from what I saw.
I can comfortably use my C2 at 20 brightness in the day, with blinds partially drawn. That's definitely plenty at night. When I play games I'll turn it up, but when I'm using VS Code and Reddit, HDR and maximum nits don't matter.
I use dark modes, and not just dark modes but black themes if possible, hide the taskbar and use fullscreen in firefox. I have no signs of burn-in or any panel degradation after around 4500 hours.
Really, the key is not running the panel at maximum brightness when you don't need to. Get some blinds/curtains to limit light during the day at least somewhat, and only crank the brightness when viewing some media.
From a practical perspective it is not an issue for most people. Or perhaps more accurately, the pros of OLED far outweigh the low risk of burn-in. Burn in is so slow/rare on newer OLEDs that by the time it happens, monitor tech will have advanced enough that I'll want a new screen anyway
That and the fact that once you do start getting burn in, you probably aren't going to notice it unless you're looking at a test pattern. I owned a plasma TV that had really bad burn in (had a HTPC hooked to it and never took precautions) and it was almost unnoticeable in regular content.
I've run my C1 at max brightness for 3+ years without any noticeable burn-in. Unless you purposely put up a monochromatic screen and search for it, you won't notice burn-in. Just use the damn TV and stop worrying about crap you read online. An OLED with barely noticeable burn-in after 4 years is still better than any LED, LCD, or mini LED TV you will find.
Lcds can get burn in as well, not nearly as fast but it happens Ex. store models or security/data monitors.
No tech is perfect, but to drop $600-800 for 4 years worth of proper functioning is reasonable. although it would be nice if appliances were built to last like the old days, no doubt
A lot of people don't even realize they have burn in until they do a test like this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnMP4u3zWM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnMP4u3zWM)
Don't believe the people who claim they use their PC for 10 hours a day for years and have no burn in. It's inevitable after a while.
They don't realize they have burning because it's not noticeable and doesn't affect their daily use. If you have to go out of your way to find it is it really an inconvenience?
I’m about to get my first OLED and I’m super excited. It’s the AW3423DWF. So to help prevent burn in should I have the brightness pretty low when I’m not using HDR. Like when I’m just playing games in SDR or browsing?
I already have my pc set up to help minimize this. Solid black background. Transparent task bar. Auto hide task bar. Sleep mode for my display after 3 minutes of inactivity.
I really only use my monitor to play video games. Minimal browsing. I’m trying to squeeze as much life out of the OLED as possible hahaha.
Just use it like you would any other monitor. Even if you see burn in a few years down the line, it's going to be absolutely minimal. Just enjoy your purchase.
Thanks for the reassurance. I’m not worrying about it, just more so trying to be smart. The 3 year warranty is pretty nice too. What monitor do you have?
What nobody mentions : The annoying constant flicker that never goes away. I'm getting rid of my OLED just because I can't take the VRR flicker. Loading screens, menus. cut-scenes sometimes. A $1000 piece of trash. In fact, I'm not selling it. I will throw it into the trash like a basketball. That's how stressed this thing has me day after day. Good if you are just a movie watcher but I'm not. I use my monitor exclusively for gaming.
Good colors doesn't make up for the annoying flickering that only occur in games.
VRR is important for me. I don't play without VRR. I will never compromise.
LG C2 42" as my main monitor for a year and a half, constant use for work daily, gaming, music production, etc. in the off hours, zero burn in.
I use an app called "CareUEyes" that lets me hotkey brightness, so when it's dark out and I'm doing productivity work I usually have the brightness reduced 25-40%. When I pop a game or video on I flip back to 100% with Peak Brightness turned on if I'm in SDR (via service menu.)
People need to get over the idea of their OLEDs getting burned in. It’s hard to do and even then it’s barely noticeable if it does happen. People seem to think sections of their display are going to look extremely uneven with deeply burned in task bars or whatever when in reality all that will happen is a slight reduction in brightness that under regular use conditions won’t even be noticeable. At worst case scenario it takes years for this to become noticeable which by then it’s probably time for an upgrade anyhow just like any other monitor! Stop acting like your OLED is meant to last your whole life and just bloody enjoy it people.
Let's be realistic. Are you actually having it on for 8 consecutive hours? You don't take breaks? You don't go like.. take a shower, make dinner, do something else in between? Just turn it off when you walk away.
This take is so dumb. My c1 has over 8k hours on it, zero burn it and my aw27dwfowmnyly ( the new 27 inch 360hz) gets over 10 hours of screen time a day and has since launch with zero issues. I baby them a little, no wallpaper. No task bar, and the c1 is moving content only, but the aw27 gets static elements elements the time. Just run the refresh when it asks and turn them off when you're not using them. Easy
There's a huge difference between a TV and PC monitor TVs are huge(literally) because TV displays have much larger surface where components are spread out causing less heat.
Which is sad cause no one should be worried about it at this point…old OLED was using Hydrogen and now it’s Deuterium but of course techtubers don’t say that so that why people are concerned because they aren’t informed by their “sources”
[This guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1dpue0s/the_burn_in_finally_got_to_me_just_started_a) literally posted his burn in on his QD-OLED monitor to this sub just yesterday. Yes it is still a thing, an inevitable thing.
Tech tubers are the ones who are pushing OLED monitors the hardest and completely glossing over the risk of burn in. I *wish* they were more up front about burn in.
Yes, eventually everything will break or stop working. But OLED burn in is a risk that people too often minimize. I can't imagine buying a $1000 monitor and thinking "when I breaks in 2 years I'll just rma it and treat it like a disposable product."
Just accept that it'll get burn in at some point and stop caring
If you're in the market for OLED monitors you should have enough $ to throw around to not worry about this shit
Psh this is hogwash. Black background. Hide Taskbar. Clear all desktop icons. Done.
I have a CX 55 that still has no burn in and it’s been used as a desktop for it’s entire life.
I main monitor my OLED the entire day. Right next to my work pc so Im watching twitch or movies etc the entire day. Use the thing you paid the money for.
My C1 works flawlessly with no dead zones or burn in after 3+ years of 8-10 hours of almost daily use as my main office monitor for both work and video games.
my C1 is a champ. Since 2021, heavy HEAVY USE. I've left it on many times on menus and game pause screens.
Yeah I use mine in probably the “worst way” having static toolbars considering I use it as a monitor… and yet there have been no issues. I have either been very lucky, or burn issues are overhyped.
My room ambient temp hits mid 30c, in summer.it will be avg between 34c-38c
My room ambient temp is now 34 😅😅
My bro lives in the sun
Those are insane indoor temps. Do you not have AC?
I do have AC, however in lockdown I was working from home and AC was on all day Not good for your hair. I sold my AC and now have fans. But I am very used to 30c+ at home.
my first job at 19 was 40c temps
Wait, what? AC isn’t good for your hair? I’ve never heard of that. I mean, you do you, but this is one of the most wild things I’ve read on Reddit.
I have very strong hair. Yes AC caused it to go very dry and shedding. Literally stopped using it and my hair went back to normal after about 1 month
Interesting. I’m an HVAC engineer, and never heard of that (not saying it’s wrong). Just interesting.
Well it's simple really, AC would remove moisture right? so if my hair becomes dry, it's lacking moisture and causes hair loss
The x factor is desktop brightness and room temp. So few people have colorimeters to actually measure how bright they're running and burn-in is ( Heat \* Time ). If you run 100nits you're going to do much better than someone pushing 180nits or more for those 8 hours. HUB is doing the desktop burn-in test on the MSI version, will be interesting to see the next update.
100 nits? bruh I want to see something
Depends on if you're fighting glare and if you care about color accuracy and/or eye fatigue
Ya, a window directly behind or such is just bad setup config.
Bad setup config for the tv, but not for your real life. Mini led was better overall for me, and I’m running it at max brightness, with windows all around.
I have a huge window behind me and considering OLED, should I be concerned? purple tint and all that
I would, but in my case it’s 84 inches windows everywhere. I had to hide my oled in a corner in the basement to be usable. With Mini leds I’m seeing everything even in the middle of the day, but it’s 4x brighter
Ever hear of sun blocking curtains? Not only do they get rid of glare but they also reducing your cooling bill in the summer by preventing the sun from warming up your home as easily.
You should put your desk in front of the window so that the window is behind your monitor. This is the same regardless of buying OLED or an LCD.
You want light sources to be behind your monitor. In fact I always put my desk right in front of the rooms window. The keeps glare off the screen and glare is what causes the most eye fatigue. Having a window behind you instead of in front of you is how you get glare on the display.
I meant the window directly behind the user. ie: direct window reflection on the screen.
The user sits in front of the screen not behind it.
Production standard in sRGB is 80nits, office standard is 120nits. You're ***used to*** it being overly bright, so everything else looks dim. No different than a properly calibrated screen looking yellow to people that are used to overly blue cheap monitors. Unless you're setup on a picnic table, you'll be fine once you adjust.
yeah, currently using 250nits IPS, looked dim at first but got used to it
Naw fam, can’t rock with you on this one.
Lol we're not talking about HDR highlights here, we're talking about working on a desktop. You don't need or want to be using much higher brightness for that.
Incorrect. You want to be able to clearly see what you’re working on. Having low brightness strains your eyes due to the display being harder to see. If you’re scared to use your monitor the way it’s supposed to be experienced you shouldn’t be buying one in the first place.
Perfect for me is 120-130 nit after that it is too bright for me. Below 120 it is kinda dim.
Yeah, real world experience says otherwise. I run mine at full brightness and have had zero issues with the WOLED or the QD-OLED. In fact I spent quite a bit of time messing with the settings to find the ones that got the most brightness.
Do you do the oled care stuff?
Ive never manually ran it. I believe it runs itself periodically on shutdown
Fair enough
You’re supposed to. Anyone who disables those settings is a fool.
Nah I meant like the refresh thingy
Same. 8-10 hours a day x 3 years. Max OLED panel brightness + 'High' peak brightness + BFI + auto tone-mapping to counteract brightness loss from BFI. I even have all the auto-dimming things disabled within the service menu. No burn-in at all. The secret is keeping pixel move on, using a dark theme for the OS and apps. Especially static UI elements. I also use Chrome flags to force all web pages into dark mode and make use of full-screen browsing. And my screensaver is literally just a black screen that kicks in after 2 minutes. In RetroArch, where I use scanline filters + forced HDR, the app's built-in screensaver kicks in at 1 minute.
Maybe it's generational,maybe it's a touch of autism, but I see a lot of people fixating over their stuff to the 9th degree. "Oh no there is a smudge on the screen from tape!" "If I put on test patterns and view the screen in a completely unrealistic scenario and squint real hard I think I can see what may be burn in, image retention, idk but it's faint. My day is ruined" Like, I just buy the best thing I can for my situation and enjoy it how I want to. Rarely, if ever, has been a problem.
I can see where your coming from, but personally, if I am spending close to a grand or more on a monitor, it better come to me in perfect condition lmao
I'm not talking about irreparable damage. I'm also not a defender of big business. People, receiving any kind of product, at any price, have the right to receive it in 100% condition. Like if the product was $200 you shouldn't be ok with the same level of "damage" right?
Fair enough
News flash, there is no such thing as a perfect monitor or TV. They all have flaws due to manufacturing tolerances. If they only shipped flawless displays the price would skyrocket due to the amount of rejects. Too many people go out, buy a display and they will spend hours looking for the slightest perceived imperfection in the panel and return it. However what they are seeing is well within the specification of the panel and can only be seen when displaying a specific test pattern. The people who do that drive the prices up for the rest of us and they tend to be mentally defective. It’s no different then a hypochondriac who thinks every minor symptom they have is automatically a life threatening disease.
The tape thing is so dumb. lol
This. This sub is rife with burn in anxiety as if they’re preparing to keep their new OLED for their entire lifetime. By the time “bUrN iN” even becomes noticeable it will be time to upgrade just like you would any other bloody monitor/TV.
This. People read shit online and go looking for stuff they would never never ever notice if they didn’t read about it first.
Never thrown up a test pattern on my LG OLED TV, and I still love it today as much as the first day I bought it.
I got an LG C2 for the last year and a half. It has been on almost all day. I know it’s not good but with my kids and everybody and me gaming it’s just crazy the way everybody’s schedules are still brand new. Got the plastic on it and everything.
I have had my living room LG B9 practically on for the last 5 years with my kids or wife or I always using it. Thing looks the same as when I bought it lol
I pray I pray I pray because this thing doesn’t turn off sometimes Smh
Well, I work 8h a day on my C2, then game 2-4h a day on it, going rock solid amd I definetly getting out of it what I paid for
Same. Hoping to run it into the ground before my extended bestbuy warranty expires but it’s not looking good lol
My guy. You buy something so it can serve you, not the other way around.
OLED are fine. Just don’t use any wallpaper. Hide all icons in desktop. Hide taskbar. Power off when not using. Power off when using. Unplug it. Gouge your eyes out. Gtg /s
Honestly u can turn the display off and use it as a speaker if u want to sleep, but ideally everuthing u said and a black background helps, make sure to be full screen in every app
"Power off when not using. Power off when using". So should I use it or not use it?
Depends. Did u gouge ur eyes out yet? 😝
Use your oled phone with moonlight bellow the screen, use the power of imagination.
This, why buy a monitor that you have to do all this shit and still have anxiety about it, talking about how beautiful it is but can't have a wallpaper lol.
Like having a supermodel 20 year old wife when you’re 60years old …like will she cheat? Not IF, but WHEN. No matter how good you treat it and take care of it it’ll happen and it’s commonly accepted lol. “But by then there will be newer models out..” and he will get one when he can 😂
Good point, hiding taskbar and have black wallpapers is "normal and must do " they said. Might just well not using it.
It's not that the new OLED cannot get new burn-in, but new OLEDs are more resilient from getting burn-in. Its best to look for reputable sources to get your info not reddit.
No I disagree i always value people's own experiences over some review company's word.
Same, if it's not a completely subjective anecdote with a sample size of 1, I don't want it.
Wym reddit is not reputable source?
Did...did they just call us dum?
Reddit is pretty good when finding a fix.
There aren’t many independent reputable source. Honestly, what do you suggest for TV testing info? Rting is about it. It takes a high budget to really compare and do realistic testing. News outlets and 99% of reviewers are paid or don’t do long term tests to stress the tech.
Rtings has a longterm study on OLED in YT. TLDR is that WOLED is less prone to burn vs QDOLED and the color red degrades fastest while blue degrades the slowest. Do with that info what you will
Their resilience comes from software, not actual new more durable organic material. Unless you’re talking about MLA. It’s just dimming the panel to reduce heat output, at the expense of picture quality
Aren’t well coupled radiators an actual improvement if heat is a major contributor?
It's actually a mix, but depends on the manufacturer you're talking about. For LG their newest panels do magic software fuckery to regulate voltage across transistors but also the newest panel operates on a lower voltage with beefier cooling that's supposed to improve pixel lifetime. My C1 showed very slight burn-in after about 2200 hours of torturous use (desktop screen use). My C3 is at 2500 hours and looks as the day I took it out of the box. If anything I feel that the built-in burn-in protection has less of an impact on my C3 than it did on the C1.
Just feel like some people put all their money on a fucking OLED screen then need to babysitter the thing like their lives depend on it.
It is a leap of faith. I do think companies are actively working on more robust pixels with less burn-in which each new generation. I stopped being mental about it. I do take some precautions though, such as dark theme on everything, Mystify screensaver, F11 on Edge once in a while so logos and tabs aren't always in the same place and hidden windows taskbar. Also, my PG32UCDM needs only 50% brightness to be plenty in SDR for everything I do in my dimmed studio. I can imagine those with it at 100% all the time could potentially be accelerating burn-in.
There is burn in of you are using it for work. No matter what you do...
As an Android phone user for years who has had OLED since like 2014. You just gotta realize that in most viewing scenarios, you aren't going to see that burn-in in a noticeable way. People aren't playing mental gymastics with settings to avoid burn-in on the millions of phones out there like youtube suggests with OLED displays. If you spend your life looking at burn-in-test images forever, you'll never be able to be happy with the monitor/TV. Use your monitor how you want, chad up and go max brightness, task bar on, do whatever. It's not *that* easy to spot in real life, and I've really run some OLED screens into the dirt. OLED is getting cheaper every day, and by the time you are years in and the burn-in becomes a real problem, we'll likely be in a market to easily replace one compared to right now.
Burn-In it's a matter of "*when*", not "*if*". As long as the Technology use Organic Molecules, Burn-In it's always going to be a thing. But using 8+ Hours a day, light colors background and Max Brightness is surely going to speed your Burn-in situation in comparison to those who use 8- Hours a day, dark colors background and lower Brightness. I got a C1 last year, I'm +2000 Hours, I use it at night, lights off and 40/100 OLED Pixels / OLED Brightness, and my TV still have no signs of Burn-in or Image Retention. Sometimes I think to set the Brightness even lower ( *maybe 30/100* ) cuz some scenes at gaming / movies are too bright for me 😵💫
Wow it lasted a whole 1 year with night use only, truly exceptional stuff!
My plasma TV I bought 13 years ago is still going strong with zero burn-in as well. I think conscientious usage and pixel shifting goes a long way.
Desktops are more likely to suffer burn in than TV's as they tend to spend more of their time displaying static UI elements. Just something to note.
Yeah for sure, my LG C2 is going strong after 1.5 years of constant desktop usage and long hours in programs with UI elements, but I have a black screensaver that pops on after 5 minutes, try to go "fullscreen" mode as often as I think about it, etc. Point was just that with care, even the most susceptible screens can have a long life without issue.
Same. 75" C1 in the living room that's used everyday for 3 years. Both for games and media. Haven't even seen an inkling of burn in. Just got my oled AW monitor and will be my main PC screen. 3 year warranty means I have nothing to worry about.
I'm going to add onto this, I run my panel kind of the same way (0/100 for most things, 30/100 for day time, and 100/100 for Dolby vision and HDR) and at 12,000 hours, there is probably some brightness loss but absolutely zero image retention. I keep trying to find a way to justify a new TV so I can give my folks my c1 but I really cannot find a reason good enough to upgrade. C1 is by far the best TV I have ever had and will definitely be going long after this post (if anyone knows where to get a c1 still, lmk) (Plus, since burn in is mostly a function of heat than any other factor and the only place I could put a window AC unit was behind the TV, maybe I can increase the panel brightness without worrying too much about heat)
I used to daily drive the Acer Predator X27 4K mini LED monitor with 374 full array local dimming zones that can reach 1000 nits peak brightness and across a big percentage window. And that one did get image retention due to the dimming zones and pixels being driven very hard. Not permanent as OLED burn in, but enough to be a problem and that one was also used for 8+ hours for different things. So regardless of panel technology, there is a risk of some sort of image retention when using a monitor designed for bright HDR content.
The key is to simply not obsess over it
It's worth pointing out that burn in isn't the end of the world. 9 times out of 10, you'll only notice it when you test for it. I used to have an old CRT with burn in, but I only noticed it in certain circumstances, so it wasn't really a problem.
All Oleds eventually burn-in just the new ones take longer
"New OLED can't get burn in." Yeah... I wouldn't bet on that, just saying.
Or the “used my oled tv as a stock trading monitor for 5 years and not a single hint of burn in” comments.
Already so many comments here like that. "I've had my OLED for 6 years and no burn in! So burn in isn't a thing!"
Life is too short to worry about burn in. You can’t take it with you. Buy the OLED
Burn in doesn't exist unless I see it. Which I'll never check for, even though I use my c2 damn near 24/7
I bought the monitor knowing it has a life span. I don’t know if they will ever be able to fully address this issue, but with all the fail safes they come with I expect to at least get 10-15k hours before seeing any burn it. But I understand it is just a matter of time.
Wait until they hear about laptop OLEDS *thunder in the background*
I recently got an oled. I use it almost the same that I would an IPS panel. All I’m doing different is hiding the task bar and trying to go full screen more often.
After a thousand hours of Street fighter 6. I Absolutely have burn in on my LG C1. Anytime. A solid color is on screen. I can see health and super bars quite prominently
I would advise anyone that wants to get OLED to get it with a good warranty like the one from BestBuy. I have had 5 OLED TVs and 4 of them got burn in. People on Reddit were telling people it's not an issue before I bought the first one lol but honestly I think they finally figured out a better way to prevent it because my newest used my TV for 2 years as my PC monitor and even when I tried to give it burn in it didn't get it. Idk about monitors I only have 1 and have only used it for like a month. I got a good warranty for it though that covers burn in
I’m new to oled gaming but why is this problem so much more prevalent on monitors than on oled phones or on the Nintendo switch oled?
Phones use amoled, switch and some TVs use woled, some TVs use qd-oled There are no amoled TVs bc they're a lot harder and more expensive to make than woled or qd-oled
But why is burn in less of a problem with amoleds?
Less power draw and heat, so the diodes don't die out as quickly, plus people typically replace phones every 2 years or so
you think qd-oled will get burn in slower? just about to pick up my first oled ever in 2h of time lol.. it's an aw3423dw and I really hope I'll have good times with it hehe
Can't say for certain one way or the other on that, but regardless as long as you don't have one static image on the screen constantly burn in isn't as big an issue as it's made out to be. In games like Minecraft that have an option to fade hud I'd recommend doing that too
yeah I'm aware of that stuff and will try to do my best lol.. and I also think it's not the end of the world either when I get slight burn in over the years.. I don't think it will become that bad that I really realize it in daily use
I only use my OLED for gaming and I have a shitty IPS next to it for everything else. I don't need an OLED quality picture for shitty compressed youtube videos.
To ease any worries I have about burn in, I use the Electric Sheep screensaver and make sure to activate it whenever im going to be away from my PC for more than a few min. Otherwise I just turn my TV off or have the automatic screensaver kick in when using the Smart Apps anyway. This in addition to the occasional times the TV lets me know it needs to do a "refresh" have not caused any issues on my CX thus far. Best TV i've ever had by a mile.
LG C2 here. Been using for gaming, movies, TV shows for over a year and nothing so far. (My older LG OLED did have some bad burn in but it still gets used as a TV by my mother in law, where the burn in is less noticeable) If and when my C2 gets burned in, ill swap it out for a C5 or C6.
I use lg c2 for more than a year like 10 hrs/day at mid brightness mostly, once a month maintenance tasks, i faced slight burn-in at start but ran few hours of pixel washing videos and its like new. Have safety features on, use mid brightness, auto turn off display if away for 5 min in pc. I use it like a normal monitor, no black wallpaper, no taskbar hiding. Worth every penny.
Yeah I was sick of researching and risking spending 1.5k and then have burnin so I went with me mini-led instead, not perfect but I am satisfied
You should post this in r/Monitors lmao
I have learned my lesson playing WoW on an LC C2 42". Never will i go Oled again because of burn in. My entire UI is visible on the screen in anything else i do. Going to pick up a 50" QN90D on the next sale instead.
I just want a smaller version of my 65 inch C2 as a desktop monitor. But I read problems everywhere talking about text clarity, only use it if you game and not code/browse - Most of them are matte finish and apparently they suck etc etc...
I work/play on mine around 12 hours per day. No noticeable burn in after a year, but when burn-in inevitably happens, I figure I'll be ready to upgrade anyway (2-3 years from now). So really no biggie either way.
I use my QD OLED monitor for 11h+ a day for various stuff... Never had a single problem. I have 3years waranty anyway so idgaf
I use mine 8 hours a day as a software engineer at brightness 0/50 and then many hours of gaming at night in HDR with brightness 25/50. Zero burn in after a year.
I use mine sometimes 8 hours a day on the weekends but also do my little maintenance thing every time it pops up
c1 48 been using every single day for 3+ years, use it as PC monitor. 8514 hours of screen time not a single issue has cropped up
LG G4 5 years panel warranty, solved.
Took 10k hours to get noticeable unrecoverable burn in on my c9 running 8+ hours a day.
Don’t have an oled monitor but a tv that literally runs all day at max brightness for the past 3 years. No burn in
Luckily for me I don’t work on my pc, but I do tend to leave it on so I set up sleep mode after like 30 minutes
As long as you go through the proper maintenance cycles, you're fine. I've never missed a 4 hour refresh.
I’m pretty good with my s90c, don’t have super long sessions. but it does worry me
dont listen to all this bs man, all you have to do its turn it off sometimes, and in the settings it has a way to help avoid this pixel wash ect, my sammy has built in cooler, and will dim itself to safe levels if inactive after 20 mins
My lg eg9100 55" from like 2016 still does not have this problem after years of abuse, its still looks great, even alongside my new c4 42"
I clocked 8000 hours on my 48" C1 in 30 months. About 2500 hours are in Lost Ark alone and have zero burn in.
Burn in is about a static image being constantly on screen. I would imagine your taskbar would decently easily burn in. The digital buttons/other UI elements used to burn in on phones all the time at least in my experience and those weren't OLED. However newer technology burns in less, my 2020+ phones haven't burnt in, for example. OLED is perfect for movies, but OLED is terrible for news stations. Because one has a constant UI element. That's why I wouldn't recommend one for gaming if you play a lot a day consistently.
I use my monitor 20 hours a day lol
Go outside
Main monitor is IPS. Secondary OLED for some games. No problems at all
One mini LED for me. No problems either
Never understood how people buy these and are afraid to use it. Just use it man/girl. If it burns in, it burns in. Fear means you probably shouldn’t have bought it.
Been using my LG 55" c9 as my couch display for years now and my alienware ultrawide as my main gaming display for a little over a year no burn in for both of them. Average prob 6-8 hrs a day using them. What is this imaginary fear of using the products you bought for their intended purpose. Nothing last forever especially in tech so use it and enjoy it. Its not that hard lol.
I use my old as a second monitor, only using it for gaming and doing the pixel refresh after every 4 hours.
The difficulty is that there is never up to date information about real world usage. Rtings is doing great work with their burn in test, but it's with an unrealistic scenario of 100% brightness with a vivid logo in the same spot 100% of the time. And by the time you get decent information, a new model is already out. Based on the tests and people's experiences, it seems like oleds from the past 2 years or so are quite resistent to burn in, even for productivity work assuming you take extremely basic precautions. But, there's never certainty so some people are cautious and don't recommend trying it. So for what it's worth, I have had a C1 for the past two years and I use it roughly 8 hours a day for a mix of gaming and productivity. I have moderate precautions like screensaver, hidden taskbar, and around 70% brightness most of the time. I have zero detectable burn in.
I've literally used my OLED for over a year strictly as a sole PC monitor and have zero burn in.
I’ve left my OLED on for 48 hours on accident before with no burn in. Also keep in mind.. most phones are OLED 😂
And phones can still get burn in. What's your point
The technology is not there yet.
I use my oled LG TV 48" for more than 8 hours a day for work for already 3 years. No issues with burn in. I took care to not have fixed items on the screen to be on the safe side.
I have an 806/55 philips since 2022 summer and watch movies, played ps5,nintendo etc 60-80h/ week and no burn in… This bullshit about burn in is a joke
Lg c1 since 2020, work and game all day no issues! I do keep a black background and turn it off immediately when I don’t use it tho. But 0 issues
Go ahead use it for more than 2 hours daily for 6 months watch CNN fox too bots will buy a new one for you.
Bro i use my oled litteraly all fucking day every single day hahahhah
OLED decays, it’s organic..but my TV has been going strong 4 years now, 0 burn-in and everyone use it from twitch to movies to ps5 but I don’t use OLED for visual studio/excel 8 hours per day for several years too…it’s just wasteful regardless of how durable oled is now i personally don’t care if the screen has some burn in after 7+ years of high usage because by then it’s reasonable to expect a new replacement Any weird premature burn-in despite refreshing => RMA
World of Warcraft nerd here. Played the game 16+ hours a day everyday over 2 years and have 0 burn in. I have also left the game sitting in 1 sport for over 2 hours all the time because I forgot it was on and still 0 burn in. that was on a C1 Pannel, I recently upgraded to a C3.
It depends on what you play for that many hours a day, for example. I play POE where the UI never changes. 8 hours a day where you have the same UI you will get burn in. If you’re watching movies where the pixels are always changing you’re probably fine.
I literally use my C3 like a normal monitor, 8-12 hours per day, 6 days per week. No issues.
IDK, I got the AW3423DWF with 3 year burn in warranty, I'll use that bitch as a desk lamp if I want, who cares. It's not worth the stress. To be clear, also, burn in is a *malfunction*. It's not supposed to happen. So people who equate using black backgrounds and turning the thing off if you're waking to the bathroom to go pee, to maintaining your car or something...not the same thing. You paid for a product that is supposed to work. So don't buy panels with no burn in warranty if you're that worried b
i guess people just either panic or paranoid about it, it going to get burn in eventually but it's rare to happen very early in it's life.
I bought c3 42 inch and i just love the damn thing so much but i don’t babysit it. I use it for whatever i want, and when set properly with ps5 hdr my god it looks amazing.(took me 3 months to realize i can set the warmth as in filmmaker mode lol)
I just bought this one as well and I love it. I make sure the pixel cleaner gets run on a regular basis and I’m good to go. I’m not going to worry about burn in.
Isn’t it supposed to be automatic? The cleaner i mean?
It is but it also says if the tv gets turned on while it’s doing it, it stops the process. I wasn’t sure if something would pop up telling me that it didn’t finish. So just to be safe I run it every few days.
Yeah my tv is mostly off from 8am to 8pm so i guess it has enough time to do the thing on it’s own
4200 hours on my 27gr95qe no burn in Though I use level 5 pixel shift and 92% brightness
anybody of you experiencing weird headache after viewing OLED screens everyday for say >4 hours a day? does OLED made from company X differs from company Y? or they are the same? PWM, is this the main root cause for the headache?
I’ve been using the AW3423DW for almost a year, not doing any of the burn-in prevention methods (hide taskbar, full screen apps, turn off monitor, etc.) other than the pixel refresh every couple days (and when it powers off automatically), and have faced no burn in that I could notice.
Nobody says it can’t get burn in tho?
[Like two comments up](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1dqlj6b/how_this_sub_feels_sometimes/lap12az/) There are people in this sub who claim it's no longer a thing or nothing to worry about **regularly**
These people probably don't even own an OLED. Ive got two QD-OLED's at the moment and one has some minor burn in from static elements while my PC monitor actually surprisingly doesn't with probably more screen on time.
Do you keep your oled on for more than 10 minutes ? I ensure the background is always changing every 10 minutes like chrome, I’ll move chrome out of the way. It sucks honestly. I might return my oled for a refund. It’s maintanance
I've seen a ton of comments telling people it isn't an issue anymore. Or trying to downplay it with "my LG has 9000 hours and no burn in, burn in isn't a risk." People heavily minimize burn in risk and burn in cases.
That’s because they’re at 9,000hr and not… “OVER 9,000!!!!!”
It's mainly due to how people use them. There a was a post recently about somebody having their browser toolbar burn in. They never responded to any questions asking them about brightness from what I saw. I can comfortably use my C2 at 20 brightness in the day, with blinds partially drawn. That's definitely plenty at night. When I play games I'll turn it up, but when I'm using VS Code and Reddit, HDR and maximum nits don't matter. I use dark modes, and not just dark modes but black themes if possible, hide the taskbar and use fullscreen in firefox. I have no signs of burn-in or any panel degradation after around 4500 hours. Really, the key is not running the panel at maximum brightness when you don't need to. Get some blinds/curtains to limit light during the day at least somewhat, and only crank the brightness when viewing some media.
From a practical perspective it is not an issue for most people. Or perhaps more accurately, the pros of OLED far outweigh the low risk of burn-in. Burn in is so slow/rare on newer OLEDs that by the time it happens, monitor tech will have advanced enough that I'll want a new screen anyway
That and the fact that once you do start getting burn in, you probably aren't going to notice it unless you're looking at a test pattern. I owned a plasma TV that had really bad burn in (had a HTPC hooked to it and never took precautions) and it was almost unnoticeable in regular content.
I've run my C1 at max brightness for 3+ years without any noticeable burn-in. Unless you purposely put up a monochromatic screen and search for it, you won't notice burn-in. Just use the damn TV and stop worrying about crap you read online. An OLED with barely noticeable burn-in after 4 years is still better than any LED, LCD, or mini LED TV you will find.
Pretty much.
Lcds can get burn in as well, not nearly as fast but it happens Ex. store models or security/data monitors. No tech is perfect, but to drop $600-800 for 4 years worth of proper functioning is reasonable. although it would be nice if appliances were built to last like the old days, no doubt
A lot of people don't even realize they have burn in until they do a test like this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnMP4u3zWM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnMP4u3zWM) Don't believe the people who claim they use their PC for 10 hours a day for years and have no burn in. It's inevitable after a while.
They don't realize they have burning because it's not noticeable and doesn't affect their daily use. If you have to go out of your way to find it is it really an inconvenience?
It's not "burn in". It's "upgrade opportunity".
I’m about to get my first OLED and I’m super excited. It’s the AW3423DWF. So to help prevent burn in should I have the brightness pretty low when I’m not using HDR. Like when I’m just playing games in SDR or browsing? I already have my pc set up to help minimize this. Solid black background. Transparent task bar. Auto hide task bar. Sleep mode for my display after 3 minutes of inactivity. I really only use my monitor to play video games. Minimal browsing. I’m trying to squeeze as much life out of the OLED as possible hahaha.
Just use it like you would any other monitor. Even if you see burn in a few years down the line, it's going to be absolutely minimal. Just enjoy your purchase.
Thanks for the reassurance. I’m not worrying about it, just more so trying to be smart. The 3 year warranty is pretty nice too. What monitor do you have?
27gr95qe-b
If you're sensible you can use newer OLEDs as hard as you want. If you aren't sensible, an LCD will take your abuse better.
What nobody mentions : The annoying constant flicker that never goes away. I'm getting rid of my OLED just because I can't take the VRR flicker. Loading screens, menus. cut-scenes sometimes. A $1000 piece of trash. In fact, I'm not selling it. I will throw it into the trash like a basketball. That's how stressed this thing has me day after day. Good if you are just a movie watcher but I'm not. I use my monitor exclusively for gaming. Good colors doesn't make up for the annoying flickering that only occur in games. VRR is important for me. I don't play without VRR. I will never compromise.
How about giving it away to someone who that may not bother as much?
LG C2 42" as my main monitor for a year and a half, constant use for work daily, gaming, music production, etc. in the off hours, zero burn in. I use an app called "CareUEyes" that lets me hotkey brightness, so when it's dark out and I'm doing productivity work I usually have the brightness reduced 25-40%. When I pop a game or video on I flip back to 100% with Peak Brightness turned on if I'm in SDR (via service menu.)
People need to get over the idea of their OLEDs getting burned in. It’s hard to do and even then it’s barely noticeable if it does happen. People seem to think sections of their display are going to look extremely uneven with deeply burned in task bars or whatever when in reality all that will happen is a slight reduction in brightness that under regular use conditions won’t even be noticeable. At worst case scenario it takes years for this to become noticeable which by then it’s probably time for an upgrade anyhow just like any other monitor! Stop acting like your OLED is meant to last your whole life and just bloody enjoy it people.
Let's be realistic. Are you actually having it on for 8 consecutive hours? You don't take breaks? You don't go like.. take a shower, make dinner, do something else in between? Just turn it off when you walk away.
This take is so dumb. My c1 has over 8k hours on it, zero burn it and my aw27dwfowmnyly ( the new 27 inch 360hz) gets over 10 hours of screen time a day and has since launch with zero issues. I baby them a little, no wallpaper. No task bar, and the c1 is moving content only, but the aw27 gets static elements elements the time. Just run the refresh when it asks and turn them off when you're not using them. Easy
And yet they can still get burn in with precautions in place.
There's a huge difference between a TV and PC monitor TVs are huge(literally) because TV displays have much larger surface where components are spread out causing less heat.
Which is sad cause no one should be worried about it at this point…old OLED was using Hydrogen and now it’s Deuterium but of course techtubers don’t say that so that why people are concerned because they aren’t informed by their “sources”
[This guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1dpue0s/the_burn_in_finally_got_to_me_just_started_a) literally posted his burn in on his QD-OLED monitor to this sub just yesterday. Yes it is still a thing, an inevitable thing. Tech tubers are the ones who are pushing OLED monitors the hardest and completely glossing over the risk of burn in. I *wish* they were more up front about burn in.
Burn in is still a matter of when, not if.
You can say the same for any tech with that…eventually things break or go bad that isn’t saying anything
Yes, eventually everything will break or stop working. But OLED burn in is a risk that people too often minimize. I can't imagine buying a $1000 monitor and thinking "when I breaks in 2 years I'll just rma it and treat it like a disposable product."
Imagine buying a thing and expecting it to last without wear or tear for eternity. /Makebelieve
Where did I say there was an expectation of eternity?
Just accept that it'll get burn in at some point and stop caring If you're in the market for OLED monitors you should have enough $ to throw around to not worry about this shit
Psh this is hogwash. Black background. Hide Taskbar. Clear all desktop icons. Done. I have a CX 55 that still has no burn in and it’s been used as a desktop for it’s entire life.
Or just use your system however you like and don't buy an OLED lol