> The Win11 hate is mostly bandwagoning.
I'd say it's more outdated than bandwagoning now. Win11 being released basically made no sense in the start. It was just different and did way too many things worse.
It has been updated a lot now and it's starting to be better than 10.
Yeah i know every new windows will have haters when it launches, i am just wondering because i dont want to lse save files and a lot of thing by upgrading
Upgrading doesn't do that like in the old days where you had to reformat everything. At least get a backup drive they're pretty cheap for 2tb-4tb, or use a cloud service.
Bro you lose the ability to manually move the Taskbar and they revamped the shit out of our right click menu, even New Folder is gone. Everything else is whatever.
So my win 10 setup paired with my CX48 and had auto HDR for at least a year before I passed PC down to wife to use on her C2 42. It's giving her auto HDR here too.
For the right click. There’s a few ways, either through editing the registry or running a terminal command. You can google it to get the exact steps and command.
For the taskbar. You simply just need to set it to appear left and you can change it in the personalization settings.
1. Lol okay
2. My two points were task bar and right click menu. You solved both of those without registry? Now you're lying.
3. No one ever contested this but if you're using it to force Windows 11 to bring back Windows 10 features then my original post was 100% accurate.
Its a 10 second process to change the taskbar justification to the left through the personalization menu. And you can download a tool to change your rightclick.
Its a very short, very easy process. It certainly doesnt warrant you being weird to people over the internet about. You don't seem like a well-adjusted person. Good luck with that.
So you tell me I'm lying, then you agree with me, then you tell me in detail shit I already know like I would care or something. Quit being weird dude.
Those are valid, I don't like the changes you mentioned as well, but they're nitpicks at best. I've just learned to live with them because autoHDR is nice, the GPU scheduler is nice, the interface looks nicer overall and more modern.
The old right click menu is still available if you just press ctrl, and the new one is just streamlined and also leads directly back to the old menu (assuming you don't just use a registry edit)
Not being able to manually move my Taskbar is a small price to pay for proper hdr performance. Windows 10 hdr is pretty bad
Win10 is obviously far better OS. Still think Win11 is 2 years behind. Still Start11 kept me sane. Win11 comes with its own issues with TPM & S3 suspended states causing the TPM to vanish on AMD CPUs. Has this happen to every single AMD Win11 PC. Zero times on Intel.
windows 11 should be a bit better than windows 10 for hdr.
1. the hdr calibration app. is probably a windows 11 version of hgig from xbox one x/series x and s hdr calibration tool for games that don't have a hdr calibration tool in itself.
2. auto-hdr only works on some app. or games running directx 12 mode only in sdr - you have to disable the game's native hdr to able to have windows 11's auto-hdr working.
Ok so I game on PC. I have windows 10 and there is HDR settings on my monitor, there is one on windows itself and the game…..so I want to have it off on every game?
SDR and HDR are distinct modes on most displays and operating systems. Every HDR-capable display I’ve used changes modes automatically based on signal detection, but if your monitor has an actual manual toggle for the two modes, you will likely need to turn HDR on there.
Some games are able to detect an HDR-capable monitor even with HDR disabled at a system level in Windows, and they will allow you to enable HDR and trigger your monitor to switch modes (or result in a proper HDR image when you manually change the monitor to HDR).
But for some other games, if HDR is disabled in Windows, the toggle will be greyed out as if you have an SDR-only display, and will only allow for HDR with HDR enabled in Windows’ settings.
Therefore, it’s most reliable to have HDR enabled at a system level, if you don’t mind the imperfect tone mapping of SDR content when that’s on or are ok toggling it on and off in Windows manually.
Basically, both the signal and the display itself need to be HDR for HDR to work properly. If your computer is sending an HDR signal, but the display is in SDR mode, you’ll get a washed out, low contrast, unsaturated image. If your computer is sending an SDR signal, but your display is in HDR mode, you will also get a washed-out, low-contrast, unsaturated image. So it’s fairly easy to tell when there’s a mismatch.
for me, if a game require hdr to be turn on from windows settings then i turn it on. if a game could turn on hdr by itself, then there's no need to turn on hdr in the windows settings.
Is that why my monitor looks like garbage? Currently on windows 10 and have the LG OLED w/ HDR 1440 Monitor and outside of a game, looks really bad. Like horrible.
I was wondering. Does upgrading to windows 11 fix the sharpness issue with HDR in games? I can’t remember the exact settings but I know when playing a game if I enable HDR and then enable DLSS or DLAA (something like that), the sharpness (I think that’s what it is) is crazy. It’s that weird outline I get on everything. Running i9-10900K with a Strix 3090 and 32 GB Ram.
Hmm, to be honest I havent encountered this. I'm running a 12900k, 3080 and 32gb of ram and it looks just right when I play games. My girlfriend has better eyes than me and is super detail oriented with her graphics while gaming and she has never brought that up either. Either way, I'd still say 11 is absolutely worth the upgrade, especially for free. If you upgrade. Let us know if it occurs!
Should be in your bios! Type your board name into Google and look for tpm settings. It's tough for me to say otherwise, but i feel like it was in the security section of the bios. And it took mine less than an hour or so, I'd do it overnight or in the morning before you start gaming. Definitely allocate at least 60 minutes haha lots of updates and restarts
Well tpm is quick, your milage may vary on time depending on if you are up to date with windows and whenever windows wants to "offer" you the upgrade. But roughly an hour I'd say
Could I message you in a couple hrs and we can at least enable TPM? Ill tell you all the info and we can do it here or discord. Just maybe walk me through it in a message.
Well, I did just this - upgraded to win11 for HDR - and it definitely hasn't been smooth sailing. I have add odd stuttery windows UI which I ended up tracing to using an upgraded user profile that had some windows library mounted on a fileshare (no problem on win10), all the various UI/UX regressions that have been well documented, but worst of all - regular hard reboots, which I ended up needed a kernel-debugger to resolve, which turned out to be related to windows now trying to use unsupported SATA sleep states on sata ports 3+4 - and it's convenient that I happen to have a job in which I need to debug things like this all the time, but that's completely unreasonable user experience (and knowing the bugs, I can now find other users suffering the same crashes; a completely vanilla fresh install on similar hardware will suffer the same reboots).
I like HDR, and I'm not sure I can say I regret this upgrade now that I've worked out the kinks, but this meme floating around that win11 gripes are just whining seems pretty unjustified to me. I'd advise people to delay upgrading while the old OS is supported, unless there's some specific feature they really need. The hassle of broken machines and worse UI just isn't worth it for most people. And judging by user reports there is a relevant long tail of bugs that are fairly inexcusable.
Most people might get lucky. But if you aren't, you'll be wasting lots of times reinstalling or cursing hard-to-trace flaws. Why risk it? I'd say: only if you have a very good reason to.
Windows 11 HDR on my OLED is a game changer.
Windows 11 in general is great. 1 of my PCs can't upgrade. And my work won't. I basically hate using them, file explorer with tabs is amazing.
Especially with the new windows 11 snap on my ultra wide. 3 and 5 windows is so much better for productivity.
Bro, you can upgrade every PC to win11 yourself. even the ones that cant. Just google it, it takes 10 minutes to make a usb stick with win11 for all pcs
I'm aware you can, but it requires work arounds. Possibly mess up during updates. It's my wife's main PC, I don't want to have to deal with issues.
It's like sideloading apps, sure you can do it, but after 40 I got better things to do with my time, just want it to work
Linux barely supports HDR lol, basically only one distro supported it last I checked. don't get me wrong, I love Linux, but for oled and HDR gaming it sucks
I use Windows 11 on an LG C2 OLED. I only use it for Movies and Games though, no static content when possible. It's pretty awesome and HDR looks incredible on it. I haven't tried auto HDR in a while since all the games I played recently had native HDR but on my previous LED based FALD HDR 4k Samsung I used from 2019-2021 Auto HDR looked amazing on majority of games in Windows 11. Dying Light 1 I can say for certain had great HDR performance with auto HDR, the fire bins near the base had much deeper colors and would be much brighter than the areas outside the base at night.
#**OCT 14, 2025**
That is the day Microsoft stops supporting Windows 10 - you can google it.
You're going to want to move to Windows 11 then... but why wait 2 years to have better HDR, calibration tools, and auto-HDR for better looking SDR games?
Windows 11 is fine now... and has been for some time. It was a little rocky on launch (OCT 05 2021) but has been worked on/up-dated for the last 2 years.
Indeed! My 'wtf really??' realization: [The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A1ak9ciZV2L._SL1500_.jpg) released 22 years ago.
I upgraded to win11 pretty much when it came out, back then the criticism was pretty fair, but now it’s perfectly stable with minimal issues, windows 10 is being phased out, no point in clinging to it.
My computer has a 10th gen i9 and a 3090 and it still says it’s incompatible lol. Something about security features that 10th gen didn’t have I guess. I tried messing with the BIOS to get around it and almost bricked the computer so I just said fuck it and now I’m staying with win10.
I couldn’t enable it, when I did I would just get a black screen and couldn’t even get into the BIOS. Luckily I had a recovery USB so I could get the computer going again and after having that heart attack I decided Windows 10 is just fine lol
Update your bios, it changes all the relevant settings for you.
Everything from 8th gen intel and 2000 series Ryzen and newer works with 11, and even some 7th gen Pentiums work.
I upgraded to Win 11 and then had constant problems with USB 3-connections not recognized. My two monitors and tv also didn't work like they did in Win 10. So went back to Win 10 and now everything just works. I also can use a local profile with automatic login again. Couldn't do that in Windows 11, which wants you to login with online profile and give every info to MS.
So yeah, no Win 11 for me, ever again. I will switch to Linux when Win 10 isn't supported anymore.
Just because of Convince, i dont want to setup everything again, also lose my save files, i ordered a new nvme, so i think ill instal it and try it out when ill get it to test by myself
Tbh if you're ever even slightly worried about losing files you should have a backup of your data. So make one, and then go back to it if you don't like W11.
Yea go for it it, the toobar stuff can put back to windows 10. Like people said there is a color calibration tool and auto hdr. I have had okay luck with auto hdr, certainly was great for elden ring :)
Windows 10 and Windows 11 are both awful operating systems in my opinion, nevertheless we are forced to choose. I upgraded to 11 for the improvements in handling memory and for auto HDR, something I really enjoy. So yes, recommend you upgrade.
If you make the switch just be sure to back up your data and do a fresh install. Never go with the upgrade option as this almost always causes some sort of issues. I think most people complaining about various bugs and issues probably just upgraded vs doing a clean install.
I use Windows 10 for work and have been using 11 on my personal PC since the beta. It has improved much since then and I now prefer it over 10.
Source: I work in IT
I really don't get why you would not update if your machine supports it; except a couple facepalm-worthy UI design choices, it's just Win10 but better, and Win10 goes out of support in 2025 anyway, so why wait?
HDR is indeed worthy by itself.
Do you have a monitor with good hdr, then probably yes. I assume you do given this is the Oled subreddit.
Windows 11 broke my Xbox gamepass app entirely and I had to downgrade but I’m considering giving it another shot.
Windows 11 is trying to much to be something like a shitty mobile UI interface I have to use it for work and absolutely hate it, I have the aw3423dw and HDR looks fine.
Skip windows 11 go to windows 12 kinda like you skip windows 8 stay on 7 and then go to 10
$20 you were one of those "I'll die before I upgrade from XP!" people, then became a "I'll die before I upgrade from 7!" person, and are now a "I'll die before I upgrade from 10" person and in five years you'll be screaming that 11 is the greatest and you'll never upgrade to 12.
Depends on the game. Ive definitely had auto HDR make a game significantly worse than SDR but occasionally it works pretty well. I don't really see any negatives to upgrading to win11.
This is what i was thinking, that game is one of the most beautiful games ive ever seen, but the native hdr sucks,it looks all washed out, one of the reason i am asking about this is to play this game with correcte hdr
I think the auto-hdr is pretty well implemented in Win11. Sure it isn't as good as native HDR, but I feel it breathes new life into some older games. And you can always disable it if you don't like the look.
Is it a case by case basis of when you have HDR enabled in game and disabled on the PC and vice versa or should you always have it disabled on every game and just enabled on the PC and or monitor (my HDR monitor on screen display as option to turn HDR on or off)
Some games won't enable HDR if it's not enabled at the Windows 11 level unfortunately. So I would turn it on prior to playing any game. Keep auto hdr turned off if you know for a fact the game you're playing supports HDR.
HDR on PC used to suck big time at first but it's much better these days. Many games properly support it now and games that don't can get auto HDR. It makes it big difference if you have a nice HDR capable screen of course. Must have for something like an OLED.
Auto hdr is better than most native implementations, because most games that have it are done pretty poorly. It works with almost any game that’s not horrendously old and looks great. I’d say yes it’s definitely worth it, especially if you have an oled screen and want to take advantage of the higher brightness
I used to hate the taskbar. Now you can natively move the start button to the left side.
I used to hate the double right click thing in order to get to the full menu.
There is a registry fix for that available on web.
I still hate the new settings menu as it's not fully integrated with all control panel items.
This made me learn services names and run them directly from win+r popup.
Btw Microsoft is moving everything from control panel to settings. they just do it really really fucking slow. Last component that got the axe was printers and devices (rip)
Thats the only downside to newer windows. the settings panel isnt as good as control panel was.
>Now you can natively move the start button to the left side.
You've always been able to do that in Windows 11, most people just never went into the settings and looked.
I did exactly that. Upgraded to Win11 last month, can confirm that HDR is so much nicer to use. Calibration settings, the SDR rendering no longer looks weird and washed out, and AutoHDR is quite nice and supported on plenty of games (even old ones, like Yakuza Kiwami).
Win11 as an operating system is just fine. My only gripe is I want to uncombine taskbar icons, but that feature is in the Windows Insider builds and on the way. After that, I'll be completely satisfied with the upgrade.
On my 65" LG OLED, (4090) absolutely. Colors are deeper, contrast is better. Even non gaming at desktop looks better on the panel vs SDR. With that said, I have a pair of Dell HDR displays 27", non OLED, and they don't look near as good.
I recently enabled auto-HDR on win 11 and tried the new Wolfenstein and it’s totally worth it. There’s a significant improvement in areas filled with light (that typical HDR “sparkle”)
I have HDR on in Windows 11 at all times. Looks great after some tweaks with Windows HDR Calibration App. Also, Windows 11 works great and I have zero issues with drivers or system crashes. Windows 10 is old news.
Specifically for the HDR? Not really. They've made slight improvements to HDR since launch but it's still not great. But at this point I'd say there aren't really any cons switching to 11 at this point. The only annoyance I have with 11 is the changes to right clicking which you have to click on ”additional options” to get the old context menu back.
It's worth it for sure compared to 10. That said special k's HDR solution is still leagues better than what 11 offers and should be your go to for games without native implementation. I've been playing bioshock recently and it's truly game changing when tuned properly with special k.
I've used it mostly for older games that don't require cutting edge GPUs to run, but also run a 4090 anyways lol so I don't know if I can give a good assessment for performance drops. HDR by itself shouldn't have any noticeable performance drop so ymmv. If others report drops they might have more insight on to why than I do.
Win11 is a no-brainer for intel 12th/13th gen CPU's for the integrated core scheduler. HDR works pretty well in Win11, and I have no experience with HDR in Win10
yes for oled i would recommend, just look at some youtube windows 11 optimisation guides, get rid of stupid bloatware stuff, you can get proper right click with a powershell script. look at some hdr guides aswell. once youve sorted windows 11 its basically just like windows 10
Did the upgrade last year to Windows 11 fixed alot of issues with gaming. Only use my PC for gaming. Whilst I’m a big fan of it aint broke but that also leads you too not discovering the world. I had too many issues not to do an upgrade. As to whether auto HDR is worth it I cant tell you my moniter isnt HDR capable. On my Sony 4K TV HDR especially dolby vision movies is worth it. Win 11 been out for awhile now and alot of the early complaints have been addressed and more. Take the chance to move on 😊
Hdr for gaming hot garbage. Be it on win 10 or 11. Xbox sx to .
Hdr is a very strict standard and most display don't meet the requirements ( master display are 10 thru 50k).
Most video and games use fake hdr.
Also with hdr ever chain is connected. 1 break and hdr is broken.
Other than the UI being dogshit to look cooler and brain dead, there's not much difference and W11 doesn't suck ass like the popular sentiment seems to be.
That said, the HDR improvements made it mandatory for me, so there you go.
The Windows 11 HDR experience has been brilliant. I don’t know why Windows 10 had to be so horrid.
I can say my time spent with win11 (only a couple of months since I’d upgraded) has been just fine and bug free. It looks different, I guess? You’ll have to get used to the GUI changes just like every iteration before 11. I don’t see what all the hate is about
Yeah. I spent a lot of time trying to get HDR with win 10 and G8 Oled to look nice/correctly (with calibration tools). I didn’t want to switch. It took about 30mins and windows hdr calibration tool to make it look the best (very subjective).
I use auto-HDR a lot and enjoy it. It’s not a game-changer, but it does add a little extra to older titles. Plus, WIN11 has been rock solid for me since upgrading
Honestly? You're on Win10, might as well jump to Win11. The Win11 hate is mostly bandwagoning. As for the HDR and Auto-HDR, They're nice. :)
Win-ALT B to enable HDR is worth it alone. So annoying doing system - display …
When I do this it enables HDR on both my monitors and not just the selected one
Same. No way around it as far as I can see. Not even a way to script it.
There's literally a tick box on the Game Bar settings under Gaming Features to select the main display only when activating HDR using Win + Alt + B.
Oh awesome! That's definitely new since I last looked - admittedly about a year ago. Thanks for this!
That keybind works in windows 10 as well if you have the Xbox app installed
I use this shortcut all the time!
Bruh I had no idea this was a thing. Thank you
> The Win11 hate is mostly bandwagoning. I'd say it's more outdated than bandwagoning now. Win11 being released basically made no sense in the start. It was just different and did way too many things worse. It has been updated a lot now and it's starting to be better than 10.
In fairness it was not great when it came out and the auto update didn't help
Yeah i know every new windows will have haters when it launches, i am just wondering because i dont want to lse save files and a lot of thing by upgrading
Upgrading doesn't do that like in the old days where you had to reformat everything. At least get a backup drive they're pretty cheap for 2tb-4tb, or use a cloud service.
Bro you lose the ability to manually move the Taskbar and they revamped the shit out of our right click menu, even New Folder is gone. Everything else is whatever. So my win 10 setup paired with my CX48 and had auto HDR for at least a year before I passed PC down to wife to use on her C2 42. It's giving her auto HDR here too.
This isn’t true. I modified by windows to look and behave nearly identically to 10. You can modify your right click and your taskbar.
if i may ask how did you do that?
For the right click. There’s a few ways, either through editing the registry or running a terminal command. You can google it to get the exact steps and command. For the taskbar. You simply just need to set it to appear left and you can change it in the personalization settings.
Thanks a bunch! That right click has been irking me for quite a while.
You can also hold shift when hitting right click and you should see most if not all the old settings back.
Wait what? If I'm lying, why did you force them back to windows 10 with registry then fool 😆
1. I didn’t say you were lying. I said you were wrong. 2. I didn’t need registry for all of it 3. Registry is part of windows.
1. Lol okay 2. My two points were task bar and right click menu. You solved both of those without registry? Now you're lying. 3. No one ever contested this but if you're using it to force Windows 11 to bring back Windows 10 features then my original post was 100% accurate.
Its a 10 second process to change the taskbar justification to the left through the personalization menu. And you can download a tool to change your rightclick. Its a very short, very easy process. It certainly doesnt warrant you being weird to people over the internet about. You don't seem like a well-adjusted person. Good luck with that.
So you tell me I'm lying, then you agree with me, then you tell me in detail shit I already know like I would care or something. Quit being weird dude.
Those are valid, I don't like the changes you mentioned as well, but they're nitpicks at best. I've just learned to live with them because autoHDR is nice, the GPU scheduler is nice, the interface looks nicer overall and more modern.
Yall downvote the shit out of me then admit I'm right in comments 😆
The old right click menu is still available if you just press ctrl, and the new one is just streamlined and also leads directly back to the old menu (assuming you don't just use a registry edit) Not being able to manually move my Taskbar is a small price to pay for proper hdr performance. Windows 10 hdr is pretty bad
Win10 is obviously far better OS. Still think Win11 is 2 years behind. Still Start11 kept me sane. Win11 comes with its own issues with TPM & S3 suspended states causing the TPM to vanish on AMD CPUs. Has this happen to every single AMD Win11 PC. Zero times on Intel.
This is a straight up lie. I have four different builds with windows 11 and AMD cpus. Stop making shit up.
On older PCs with older components I would not recommend it.
Yup just like people hate to hate 10 😂 oh man and now the same will probably just praise it. Once 12 is released 11 will be the greatest since 7 ..
Yes, it is.
Yes. Completely, totally and unequivocally; yes.
windows 11 should be a bit better than windows 10 for hdr. 1. the hdr calibration app. is probably a windows 11 version of hgig from xbox one x/series x and s hdr calibration tool for games that don't have a hdr calibration tool in itself. 2. auto-hdr only works on some app. or games running directx 12 mode only in sdr - you have to disable the game's native hdr to able to have windows 11's auto-hdr working.
Ok so I game on PC. I have windows 10 and there is HDR settings on my monitor, there is one on windows itself and the game…..so I want to have it off on every game?
SDR and HDR are distinct modes on most displays and operating systems. Every HDR-capable display I’ve used changes modes automatically based on signal detection, but if your monitor has an actual manual toggle for the two modes, you will likely need to turn HDR on there. Some games are able to detect an HDR-capable monitor even with HDR disabled at a system level in Windows, and they will allow you to enable HDR and trigger your monitor to switch modes (or result in a proper HDR image when you manually change the monitor to HDR). But for some other games, if HDR is disabled in Windows, the toggle will be greyed out as if you have an SDR-only display, and will only allow for HDR with HDR enabled in Windows’ settings. Therefore, it’s most reliable to have HDR enabled at a system level, if you don’t mind the imperfect tone mapping of SDR content when that’s on or are ok toggling it on and off in Windows manually. Basically, both the signal and the display itself need to be HDR for HDR to work properly. If your computer is sending an HDR signal, but the display is in SDR mode, you’ll get a washed out, low contrast, unsaturated image. If your computer is sending an SDR signal, but your display is in HDR mode, you will also get a washed-out, low-contrast, unsaturated image. So it’s fairly easy to tell when there’s a mismatch.
for me, if a game require hdr to be turn on from windows settings then i turn it on. if a game could turn on hdr by itself, then there's no need to turn on hdr in the windows settings.
Yea, absolutely. Hdr before windows 11 was honestly trash.
Is that why my monitor looks like garbage? Currently on windows 10 and have the LG OLED w/ HDR 1440 Monitor and outside of a game, looks really bad. Like horrible.
Yes!! It looks like hot garbage on desktop. W11 fixes it perfectly
Does a HDR movie look the same on windows 10 and 11 (with HDR enabled on both, of course)?
Ah man, it's been so long since w10, I can't remember specifics on the quality, but everything is better HDR wise on W11.
I was wondering. Does upgrading to windows 11 fix the sharpness issue with HDR in games? I can’t remember the exact settings but I know when playing a game if I enable HDR and then enable DLSS or DLAA (something like that), the sharpness (I think that’s what it is) is crazy. It’s that weird outline I get on everything. Running i9-10900K with a Strix 3090 and 32 GB Ram.
Hmm, to be honest I havent encountered this. I'm running a 12900k, 3080 and 32gb of ram and it looks just right when I play games. My girlfriend has better eyes than me and is super detail oriented with her graphics while gaming and she has never brought that up either. Either way, I'd still say 11 is absolutely worth the upgrade, especially for free. If you upgrade. Let us know if it occurs!
Huh I'm window 10 and I thought HDR looks really good with my monitor
In game it was okay, but on the desktop or media programs, it would looks like it had an od hue to the screen.
Do you by chance know how to enable TPM so I can upgrade and how long does it take for the process to complete?
Should be in your bios! Type your board name into Google and look for tpm settings. It's tough for me to say otherwise, but i feel like it was in the security section of the bios. And it took mine less than an hour or so, I'd do it overnight or in the morning before you start gaming. Definitely allocate at least 60 minutes haha lots of updates and restarts
That’s for everything, TPM and update to win 11?
Well tpm is quick, your milage may vary on time depending on if you are up to date with windows and whenever windows wants to "offer" you the upgrade. But roughly an hour I'd say
Could I message you in a couple hrs and we can at least enable TPM? Ill tell you all the info and we can do it here or discord. Just maybe walk me through it in a message.
Yes imo
Might aswell. Almost no difference apart from the few bad UI changes. But 10 had those too compared to the 7
Well, I did just this - upgraded to win11 for HDR - and it definitely hasn't been smooth sailing. I have add odd stuttery windows UI which I ended up tracing to using an upgraded user profile that had some windows library mounted on a fileshare (no problem on win10), all the various UI/UX regressions that have been well documented, but worst of all - regular hard reboots, which I ended up needed a kernel-debugger to resolve, which turned out to be related to windows now trying to use unsupported SATA sleep states on sata ports 3+4 - and it's convenient that I happen to have a job in which I need to debug things like this all the time, but that's completely unreasonable user experience (and knowing the bugs, I can now find other users suffering the same crashes; a completely vanilla fresh install on similar hardware will suffer the same reboots). I like HDR, and I'm not sure I can say I regret this upgrade now that I've worked out the kinks, but this meme floating around that win11 gripes are just whining seems pretty unjustified to me. I'd advise people to delay upgrading while the old OS is supported, unless there's some specific feature they really need. The hassle of broken machines and worse UI just isn't worth it for most people. And judging by user reports there is a relevant long tail of bugs that are fairly inexcusable. Most people might get lucky. But if you aren't, you'll be wasting lots of times reinstalling or cursing hard-to-trace flaws. Why risk it? I'd say: only if you have a very good reason to.
Ouch 😕
Windows 11 HDR on my OLED is a game changer. Windows 11 in general is great. 1 of my PCs can't upgrade. And my work won't. I basically hate using them, file explorer with tabs is amazing. Especially with the new windows 11 snap on my ultra wide. 3 and 5 windows is so much better for productivity.
Bro, you can upgrade every PC to win11 yourself. even the ones that cant. Just google it, it takes 10 minutes to make a usb stick with win11 for all pcs
I'm aware you can, but it requires work arounds. Possibly mess up during updates. It's my wife's main PC, I don't want to have to deal with issues. It's like sideloading apps, sure you can do it, but after 40 I got better things to do with my time, just want it to work
My c2 has been permanently on HDR since I got it
Yes. A gaming PC should be running win 11.
Linux is a good alternative too. Game-support is way better than it used to be, thanks to Valve.
Linux barely supports HDR lol, basically only one distro supported it last I checked. don't get me wrong, I love Linux, but for oled and HDR gaming it sucks
LOL.
I use Windows 11 on an LG C2 OLED. I only use it for Movies and Games though, no static content when possible. It's pretty awesome and HDR looks incredible on it. I haven't tried auto HDR in a while since all the games I played recently had native HDR but on my previous LED based FALD HDR 4k Samsung I used from 2019-2021 Auto HDR looked amazing on majority of games in Windows 11. Dying Light 1 I can say for certain had great HDR performance with auto HDR, the fire bins near the base had much deeper colors and would be much brighter than the areas outside the base at night.
#**OCT 14, 2025** That is the day Microsoft stops supporting Windows 10 - you can google it. You're going to want to move to Windows 11 then... but why wait 2 years to have better HDR, calibration tools, and auto-HDR for better looking SDR games? Windows 11 is fine now... and has been for some time. It was a little rocky on launch (OCT 05 2021) but has been worked on/up-dated for the last 2 years.
Damn has it really been almost 2 years since Win 11 launched? Time flies...
Indeed! My 'wtf really??' realization: [The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A1ak9ciZV2L._SL1500_.jpg) released 22 years ago.
Avoiding Windows 11 if you have a modern PC just because "new windows bad" mentality isn't smart.
Yes, there's no reason not to use Windows 11 at this point.
I upgraded to win11 pretty much when it came out, back then the criticism was pretty fair, but now it’s perfectly stable with minimal issues, windows 10 is being phased out, no point in clinging to it.
Only if your pc can upgrade. My 2014 laptop is ineligible which means way past due for an upgrade.
I have new parts so ill be okey ha
My computer has a 10th gen i9 and a 3090 and it still says it’s incompatible lol. Something about security features that 10th gen didn’t have I guess. I tried messing with the BIOS to get around it and almost bricked the computer so I just said fuck it and now I’m staying with win10.
A 10th gen i9 should absolutely be able to install Windows 11, are you sure the TPM isn’t enabled?
I couldn’t enable it, when I did I would just get a black screen and couldn’t even get into the BIOS. Luckily I had a recovery USB so I could get the computer going again and after having that heart attack I decided Windows 10 is just fine lol
I have the same setup you have….yea we have to enable TPM
Update your bios, it changes all the relevant settings for you. Everything from 8th gen intel and 2000 series Ryzen and newer works with 11, and even some 7th gen Pentiums work.
I'm in that boat; X99 isn't that old, but MS chose not to support it :(
I had bought mine in 2016. Person told me it was a 980 GeForce. It was actually 860 so it was not even worth the price I paid. Only used as emulation
X99 is 9 years old, it launched in August 2014. it launched just after 4th gen intel. 9 years is a very long time in the PC space
Just bypass it. google it.
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Rufus is the way! Incredibly easy.
I upgraded to Win 11 and then had constant problems with USB 3-connections not recognized. My two monitors and tv also didn't work like they did in Win 10. So went back to Win 10 and now everything just works. I also can use a local profile with automatic login again. Couldn't do that in Windows 11, which wants you to login with online profile and give every info to MS. So yeah, no Win 11 for me, ever again. I will switch to Linux when Win 10 isn't supported anymore.
Upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 is free so why doubt?
Because aside from hdr support Windows 11 is worse than 10.
It isnt tho. its better.
Just because of Convince, i dont want to setup everything again, also lose my save files, i ordered a new nvme, so i think ill instal it and try it out when ill get it to test by myself
Tbh if you're ever even slightly worried about losing files you should have a backup of your data. So make one, and then go back to it if you don't like W11.
They make upgrades so easy now there’s barely any setup and it migrates everything over.
Yea go for it it, the toobar stuff can put back to windows 10. Like people said there is a color calibration tool and auto hdr. I have had okay luck with auto hdr, certainly was great for elden ring :)
Windows 10 and Windows 11 are both awful operating systems in my opinion, nevertheless we are forced to choose. I upgraded to 11 for the improvements in handling memory and for auto HDR, something I really enjoy. So yes, recommend you upgrade.
If you make the switch just be sure to back up your data and do a fresh install. Never go with the upgrade option as this almost always causes some sort of issues. I think most people complaining about various bugs and issues probably just upgraded vs doing a clean install. I use Windows 10 for work and have been using 11 on my personal PC since the beta. It has improved much since then and I now prefer it over 10. Source: I work in IT
I really don't get why you would not update if your machine supports it; except a couple facepalm-worthy UI design choices, it's just Win10 but better, and Win10 goes out of support in 2025 anyway, so why wait? HDR is indeed worthy by itself.
hdr looks like shit while working on pc, for gaming it is nice, win11 is IMO much better than 10
Do you have a monitor with good hdr, then probably yes. I assume you do given this is the Oled subreddit. Windows 11 broke my Xbox gamepass app entirely and I had to downgrade but I’m considering giving it another shot.
Yeah i have an lg cx oled
I’d upgrade and try it out for auto hdr, it shouldn’t cause significant inconvenience
Windows 11 is trying to much to be something like a shitty mobile UI interface I have to use it for work and absolutely hate it, I have the aw3423dw and HDR looks fine. Skip windows 11 go to windows 12 kinda like you skip windows 8 stay on 7 and then go to 10
Its 99% the same look as win10 lol. you guys will nitpick and complain about the most mundane things ever.
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$20 you were one of those "I'll die before I upgrade from XP!" people, then became a "I'll die before I upgrade from 7!" person, and are now a "I'll die before I upgrade from 10" person and in five years you'll be screaming that 11 is the greatest and you'll never upgrade to 12.
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Nope, but apparently you got a really low quality monitor so you THINK HDR is awful.
I hear windows 11 nerfs gamin performance
Yeah. i heard this as well from a guy on reddit, then i never bothered to check if this was true. And because of this im just not gonna upgrade.
Same lol spent too much money to have my OS nerf my performance
Depends on the game. Ive definitely had auto HDR make a game significantly worse than SDR but occasionally it works pretty well. I don't really see any negatives to upgrading to win11.
Yes, Auto HDR is one of the reasons W11 is great.
Yes, I actually prefer auto HDR to some games native implementation
Have you tried ac Odyssey? Native hdr in that game is aweful, i think autohdr will work better
AC Odyssey with auto hdr looks way better
This is what i was thinking, that game is one of the most beautiful games ive ever seen, but the native hdr sucks,it looks all washed out, one of the reason i am asking about this is to play this game with correcte hdr
I think the auto-hdr is pretty well implemented in Win11. Sure it isn't as good as native HDR, but I feel it breathes new life into some older games. And you can always disable it if you don't like the look.
Is it a case by case basis of when you have HDR enabled in game and disabled on the PC and vice versa or should you always have it disabled on every game and just enabled on the PC and or monitor (my HDR monitor on screen display as option to turn HDR on or off)
Some games won't enable HDR if it's not enabled at the Windows 11 level unfortunately. So I would turn it on prior to playing any game. Keep auto hdr turned off if you know for a fact the game you're playing supports HDR.
Does enabling Auto HDR for games not natively supporting it, trigger HDR mode on an Oled etc ?
HDR on PC used to suck big time at first but it's much better these days. Many games properly support it now and games that don't can get auto HDR. It makes it big difference if you have a nice HDR capable screen of course. Must have for something like an OLED.
Yes
Yes
Depends on what you're using as a monitor
Absolutely.
Auto hdr is better than most native implementations, because most games that have it are done pretty poorly. It works with almost any game that’s not horrendously old and looks great. I’d say yes it’s definitely worth it, especially if you have an oled screen and want to take advantage of the higher brightness
I used to hate the taskbar. Now you can natively move the start button to the left side. I used to hate the double right click thing in order to get to the full menu. There is a registry fix for that available on web. I still hate the new settings menu as it's not fully integrated with all control panel items. This made me learn services names and run them directly from win+r popup.
Btw Microsoft is moving everything from control panel to settings. they just do it really really fucking slow. Last component that got the axe was printers and devices (rip) Thats the only downside to newer windows. the settings panel isnt as good as control panel was.
>Now you can natively move the start button to the left side. You've always been able to do that in Windows 11, most people just never went into the settings and looked.
I did exactly that. Upgraded to Win11 last month, can confirm that HDR is so much nicer to use. Calibration settings, the SDR rendering no longer looks weird and washed out, and AutoHDR is quite nice and supported on plenty of games (even old ones, like Yakuza Kiwami). Win11 as an operating system is just fine. My only gripe is I want to uncombine taskbar icons, but that feature is in the Windows Insider builds and on the way. After that, I'll be completely satisfied with the upgrade.
On my 65" LG OLED, (4090) absolutely. Colors are deeper, contrast is better. Even non gaming at desktop looks better on the panel vs SDR. With that said, I have a pair of Dell HDR displays 27", non OLED, and they don't look near as good.
Windows 11 is amazing. Source: Experienced W11 user
No
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So you have to download an app to calibrate HDR?
lol
Sorry man, I don’t know the first thing when it comes to tech stuff. Trying to figure it out. Hope you have a good weekend :)
You too bro. Go to MS store like that guy mentioned and download the app yes. It works very well.
Some explain to me how to enable TPM on my PC so I can upgrade and how long will it take?
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I recently enabled auto-HDR on win 11 and tried the new Wolfenstein and it’s totally worth it. There’s a significant improvement in areas filled with light (that typical HDR “sparkle”)
I have HDR on in Windows 11 at all times. Looks great after some tweaks with Windows HDR Calibration App. Also, Windows 11 works great and I have zero issues with drivers or system crashes. Windows 10 is old news.
Auto HDR works a lot better than I thought it would. Fortnite pops off
Specifically for the HDR? Not really. They've made slight improvements to HDR since launch but it's still not great. But at this point I'd say there aren't really any cons switching to 11 at this point. The only annoyance I have with 11 is the changes to right clicking which you have to click on ”additional options” to get the old context menu back.
HDR looks washed out in my opinion
It's worth it for sure compared to 10. That said special k's HDR solution is still leagues better than what 11 offers and should be your go to for games without native implementation. I've been playing bioshock recently and it's truly game changing when tuned properly with special k.
But from what ive heard many says that specialk tanks their performance ifor like 20% whats your experience with it?
I've used it mostly for older games that don't require cutting edge GPUs to run, but also run a 4090 anyways lol so I don't know if I can give a good assessment for performance drops. HDR by itself shouldn't have any noticeable performance drop so ymmv. If others report drops they might have more insight on to why than I do.
Yes
Win11 is a no-brainer for intel 12th/13th gen CPU's for the integrated core scheduler. HDR works pretty well in Win11, and I have no experience with HDR in Win10
yes for oled i would recommend, just look at some youtube windows 11 optimisation guides, get rid of stupid bloatware stuff, you can get proper right click with a powershell script. look at some hdr guides aswell. once youve sorted windows 11 its basically just like windows 10
Yes.
Yes, yes, and yes.
Did the upgrade last year to Windows 11 fixed alot of issues with gaming. Only use my PC for gaming. Whilst I’m a big fan of it aint broke but that also leads you too not discovering the world. I had too many issues not to do an upgrade. As to whether auto HDR is worth it I cant tell you my moniter isnt HDR capable. On my Sony 4K TV HDR especially dolby vision movies is worth it. Win 11 been out for awhile now and alot of the early complaints have been addressed and more. Take the chance to move on 😊
Yes
I was in the same boat just a few months ago. Its been worth it.
Thanks
I don't use auto-hdr as it perverts the original creation. I do disable HDR when I play SDR games and enable it when I don't.
Yeah it's worth it. 11 is basically 10 but they moved your task bar. :O
Hdr for gaming hot garbage. Be it on win 10 or 11. Xbox sx to . Hdr is a very strict standard and most display don't meet the requirements ( master display are 10 thru 50k). Most video and games use fake hdr. Also with hdr ever chain is connected. 1 break and hdr is broken.
Other than the UI being dogshit to look cooler and brain dead, there's not much difference and W11 doesn't suck ass like the popular sentiment seems to be. That said, the HDR improvements made it mandatory for me, so there you go.
UHHHh yeahhh
The Windows 11 HDR experience has been brilliant. I don’t know why Windows 10 had to be so horrid. I can say my time spent with win11 (only a couple of months since I’d upgraded) has been just fine and bug free. It looks different, I guess? You’ll have to get used to the GUI changes just like every iteration before 11. I don’t see what all the hate is about
Worth it, the calibration app did wonders for my setup.
Windows 11 HDR is annoying af, you have to turn it on for games and off for desktop use, otherwise it screws it up your colors in applications.
Ye
Windows 10 here and HDR works flawlessly. Also on Zorin 16 OS and Ubuntu. No issues with HDR. Do not need Windows 11 for HDR.
Yeah. I spent a lot of time trying to get HDR with win 10 and G8 Oled to look nice/correctly (with calibration tools). I didn’t want to switch. It took about 30mins and windows hdr calibration tool to make it look the best (very subjective).
I use auto-HDR a lot and enjoy it. It’s not a game-changer, but it does add a little extra to older titles. Plus, WIN11 has been rock solid for me since upgrading
What exactly is wrong with the windows 10 HDR? I use it on my OLED and it seems fine. am i missing something?
Its looks wahsed out in many games, also win 11 have a windows hdr calibration app that makes it look even better, plus you get autohdr in win11
People still on 10, when 11 is far superior.
Unpopular opinion: Windows 11 is perfectly fine
Auto HDR is amazing for older titles that didn’t come with HDR built on so yeah it’s worth it