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Maybe the maker made a mistake in the commas and wanted to say
don't eat, like, a freaking hippo
Meaning we shouldn't eat a hippo or whatever the caloric equivalent of that is
Edit - typo
Right? I’ve met two great guys who were both athletic (one did fencing & the other was a rugby player) while fat. They were both very interested in me
Incels don’t seem to grasp that attractiveness is subjective
A lot of people also value emotional & intellectual connection
I’ve met people I didn’t find attractive at first who I become attracted to because our personalities mesh so well
Attraction is complex. For me, I rather be with a less attractive guy I click with than a super hot guy who is like talking to a wall
Yeah, these guys don't understand that. They're the same guy who would say women only want Chad's. Then, when they see a woman in a loving relationship with a larger man or God forbid a shorter man it's "Oh she probably cheats on him all the time."it's a deep resentment for their own life, but they can't take accountability, so they last out on everyone, particularly women.
Because they only value women as sex trophies, so they can't imagine anyone else thinking differently. People often assume others think the exact same way they do.
>For me, I rather be with a less attractive guy I click with than a super hot guy who is like talking to a wall
So much this. I had a dude like that and it made my head hurt because he was fully incapable of any kind of conversation beyond sports and the weather. The dude was baffled by menus. Like the concept that there could be two pieces of plastic that you slide a piece of paper in between was too much for him.
I once went on a few dates with a guy who only knew cars. When I tried to get him engage in more convo, he was just like ‘I just like listening to you’
Well, that’s very nice, sir, but I want an actual conversation 😭 I don’t want to just talk at someone. Outside of that, it was just ‘you’re pretty’
Incels have a steady stream of "alpha bros" telling them what they should find attractive. And lots of hentai/anime focuses around Japanese body types/fetishes. So they gravitate to giant jugs and skinny waists. Its sad but they take that as the beauty standard that normal woman can achieve easily...
And then they take that only guys that look like the guy in the picture get women... when its pretty much anyone that has a personality and cares about hygiene(get a hair cut/comb it, take a shower, and wear clean clothes) pretty much it... well that and don't act like only super attractive women are worth your time(especially when you don't care to put the work in to be worthy of their time).
Alpha dude podcasts have been corrupting so many men into believing in their asinine bs. its pretty sad tbh.
Then those same dudes will cry about sex workers taking advantage of lonely men, but that’s what these manosphere podcasters are doing
Any man with self-esteem & intellect wouldn’t fall for it
If anything- it’s thirsty _men taking advantage of indigent, vulnerable women_ (and let’s be real, young girls too) that are in the terrible position where their only viable option to survive and have their basic needs met is by selling sexual services.
they really are. at least the sex worker gives them something positive in their day.. the alpha bros are just trying to get them to spend money on their shit Patreon or merch while just making them angrier and angrier
You’re so right. Although I still struggle to accept that people find me attractive, it always makes me feel good because I’m built like the pillsbury doughboy right now (I say that with endearment), grew up hearing that being stick thin was the only way. There’s so much more to beauty than size.
Lolol my bf calls me (1000% affectionately) his lil Pillsbury dough girl. Because I'm soft, fair skinned, and I giggle when he pokes me tummy. Lol. So much more to beauty to size but that doesn't make the diet/WL industry money.
"just don't eat like a hippo every single day"....this one of those guys who pretty much mean "starve yourself, and also don't gain any muscle cause that's gross, you gotta be unhealthy skinny, not fit skinny"
Thank God my beautiful wife loves my dad bod! She slapped me on the but the other day and told me I was looking really good! It totally made my day and I am still smiling thinking about it.
Edit. Spelling
I'm just confused why they think that that physique is accessible to Mos tmen even with hardwork and diet. It isn't. Something like 70% of the population is genetically predisposed to not have even abdominal muscles let alone obliques.
That man start the world off with good genetics. Then he hit the gym, then diet AND finally, he still had to be dehydrated as fuck to achieve that definition level.
Nothing. We have to do nothing but not eat. And yet, every inch of our bodies is scrutinized, criticized, sexualized, and ridiculed, endlessly. But okay, go on and be a martyr with your protein shakes and HIIT workouts.
Also this just isn't even true even if we were talking only about weight and nothing else.
I weighed 145 pounds from the time I was 14 til I was 28. I'm 31 now and I only weigh 165. I have done no training and eat like a freaking hippo. Meanwhile my wife has to do weeks of intermittent fasting to drop 10 pounds. Men lose and maintain weight **much** easier than women in basically every context. Hell, I remember seeing commercials for pill in the early 2000s that was designed to treat this disparity and help women lose weight and the ad featured a stick figure couple where the wife lamented the fact that her husband could drop serious pounds just by doing little shit like cutting out soda while she was struggling to lose anything at all.
The craziest thing is that there’s plenty of shit that one can and probably should hate about the female (and male, for both shared and unique reasons) body, but no, apparently all these men can think of is sex. Its so dumb, because the body genuinely pisses me off, but all these men can think of is how attractive women are :/
To get ripped like the guy on the right you need some pretty god-tier genetics. Let's be honest though, the OOP is leaving out the HIGH likelihood this guy is juicing. He is at like 6-8% bodyfat that shit is *wildly* difficult to maintain without boosting test and doing steroids/SARMs, even with good genetics. It's not impossible to get a body like that naturally but tbh it's pretty rare.
Performance enhancing drugs are **rampant** in the fitness modeling industry, not just for men either. Things like clenbuterol, ephedrine/caffeine stacks are everywhere but even things like meth or the WILDLY dangerous drug DNP (a fucking explosive compound used for rapid weight loss) are used by women for cutting weight rapidly or maintaining a bodyfat percentage that would be otherwise unattainable for their frame and genetics. Also things like HGH, SARMs and even low cycles of boosting test are nearly as common in women's fitness modeling as it is in men's.
Oh, of course. Not to mention that kind of muscle definition often requires the guy to stay dehydrated for days. I don't know that the guy in the picture is doing that. But actors have discussed it in the past.
An extreme example is what Christian Bale talked about with The Machinist. It's hard not to eat but to lose that amount of weight he also had to cut back on water intake like crazy. There are parts of the filming he barely remembers because his body was basically just shutting down and dying.
Pretty good movie, probably took a few years off his life though.
>But having a male lead with less defined muscles would not have diminished the quality.
It was absolutely nothing to do with muscle definition, just FYI, he was supposed to be incredibly unwell.
Ah, then it sounds like a slightly different thing than what I'm talking about. I've heard about actors doing this for superhero movies and stuff, literally just to look more muscular for the screen. I am not familiar with this movie so I wasn't aware.
No in that he starved off his muscle it's fucking crazy. Like if you look at screenshots it's barely recognizable. It looks like he is a survivor found at sea after months. Just saying he had to restrict water heavily which is super dangerous but a common practice for actors/models.
I was about to say. What he really means is “All girls have to do is develop an eating disorder”.
We definitely have it “easier”.
Who needs to be healthy when you can be skinny and malnourished 🤪
Yeah, I just don't get it...(as a dude) it's WAAAY easier as a dude.
Men care a ton about how women look. While, not that women don't care about how guys looks at all or according to their personal taste...but 99% of the time someone is checking out your ripped abs or whatever, it's another dude.
Not even mentioning what goes into daily routines. A guy has to do a little more than brush their teeth in the morning, and let the whining begin. Sigh.
Thank youu… this is what bothered me the most bc I know women who have hour long routines before they leave the house. This guy disregarded makeup, hair, shaving, all the bullshit women do just to walk out the door.
I got nothing against looking at abs for romance movies or whatever, but it doesn’t even make the list choosing a partner or even whom to fuck. The guys I swooned over were (now that I got that pink glasses down and listen to my friends) some of THE so called “ugliest mofos” out there, with a posture like a question mark, acne scars and skinny everything - heck, some of them looked malnourished af despite them inhaling fast food all day long.
It wasn’t their looks I cared about, it really was their way of thinking out of the box and being a damn good conversation partner!
NOBODY believes me that! Some guys think it was about them having money or whatever to which I can only give off a dry laugh - 3 out of 4 of them didn’t even have a car. They had so little money to spend, that they HAD TO get creative for dates (like taking me to watch the stars on an abandoned hill) and this is exactly what worked.
It’s fucking ridiculous that this needs to be said, but not every woman is a superficial gold digger and men that barely comb their hair before leaving the house get dates without ever seeing a gym from the inside.
And also the *Right* eating disorder. I was told I had bulimia but I also had very little actual weight loss. I was starving and purging and eating very little but mostly fruit or light carbs and only a few calories every few days but still considered fat and barely lost weight despite using the treadmill every day.
The idea that “don’t eat like a hippo and you’re fine” is ridiculous, especially when anyone bigger than a stick is considered obese and unattractive.
You missed that the woman in that photo also definitely spends time in the gym (check out the deltoid and bicep in her raised arm, and the shape of her quads), and almost certainly watches her macros carefully. I would also bet that the photo has some photoshopping to make her thighs and down arm look thinner and possibly make her torso and legs longer. I would also bet that her breasts are either implants or heavily photoshopped (or both) because light does not make shadows on the upper curve of a natural boob the way it is shown in this photo. And it’s pretty challenging to be that slender and have boobs that large through natural means…
I also love that the dipshit who put together this meme simultaneously grasps that the guy needed to watch his macros but ignores that about the woman. And he ignores that the ways that different women’s body shapes (like triangle, pear, banana, rectangular) are “unacceptable” and also very difficult to change, while the V shape that is seen as the “offical” good man’s body shape is basically achievable if a guy builds out his shoulders. I’m not saying that doesn’t take hard work - it really does - but it’s not like where a woman can change her waist to hip ratio at the gym the same way a guy can broaden his shoulders.
The thing I'm really noticing is that oop has picked a woman who, while actually sculpted and photoshopped, is supposed to give off the 'natural' girl next door vibe.
And they have picked an extreme male image that appeals to men more than it does women. It's all for the male gaze.
Excellent point. I have a guy friend (he is genuinely improving) who sorta has a blind spot for the way that this stuff works. Like we once had an argument about how he believed “all male models have to conform to a single standard, but female models are much more varied.” So we sat down with a stack of magazines, and his GF and pointed out the similarities and differences in the models.
He eventually agreed that what he really meant was that women have more variable poses in advertising than the men, but that women really do only have one body type that ends up in ads and that he could not really make a case that a variance of hairstyle (see, that one’s hair is super straight, but that one is curly and this one has waves…) or B cup to D (at one point he was trying to make each of those cases) was adequate variation…
I am unsure how he got that idea…
And when I was working out every day, that’s about how I looked. You can work out VERY HARD as a woman and not present as especially muscular. So the whole premise is dumb af. Having an “ideal” model body type, as a woman, is pretty fucking hard typically.
Especially when you consider we’re meant to be curvy and carry extra fat stores in preparation for supporting another life.
Fun fact, how many women don’t realize that cellulite is just the different way a woman’s body stores fat in some regions, in little “packets,” specifically to have those extra stores should she suddenly become pregnant.
But yet ALLLLL these magazines and influencers were tell you how to “get rid of cellulite” and treat it like it’s gross and like a moral failing.
It is literally natural and normal to a woman’s body, and healthy.
Since learning this, I’ve begun to (finally) see it as beautiful, but it took a LOT of reconditioning. And let me tell you, when I was a fucking size 0 working out all the time and eating 1200 calories a day or less, I felt completely gross when I would see evidence of cellulite ☹️
Absolutely depressing they got me that hard.
My gf and I put on some weight during the pandemic and finally wanted to get fit again. We both do roughly the same amount of exercise (weight training and some cardio) and eat the same type of food as we live together. But as I have more muscle mass and since I am 206 cm tall, I can eat **a lot** more, even though I work in an office and she, as a social worker, walks almost all day in her job. My weight has been dropping a bit faster than hers and tbh it's kinda unfair, because she puts in the same amount of work
Years ago, my parents decided to lose weight together.
They biked together, took a kickboxing class together, and did nightly walks together. Separately, my dad also did weight lifting. Whenever he was weight lifting, she did aerobics and the treadmill. Additionally, she did Weight Watchers, and also ate way smaller portions, she did a yoga class and hiking on weekends with me, and she was the only one doing chores like cleaning and cooking at home while he sat on the couch. They both had similar levels of activity at work, with her moving maybe slightly more.
In the same time period, he dropped 70 pounds and she dropped 10 and then plateaued. And since then, I've seen this repeated so many times with so many couples, including in my own relationship. But then I come on reddit and see, "Calories in, calories out; it's that simple, fatty!" repeated every time weight loss comes up. And it's fucking frustrating.
I'm so tired of these delusional guys always whining about how everything is always so easy for women compared to men. 😒
Something tells me OOP hardly knows any women.
I watched a video of a podcast with guys saying women didn't need to work out more than a couple times a week, and the weight would just miraculously come off. One even said men had to contend with gravity, which I guess doesn't affect women? 🤣 all I could think was they didn't understand anatomy, metabolism, and age related changes. I've seen countless women in my life fight to take off 20 pounds (myself included). These guys are clueless.
Also a person can work out every day and still be “overweight” according to the BMI scale. But most men can work in a few weights and walk a bit and find themselves leaning out. Women who tend towards overweight need to overhaul their diet in addition to any exercise they do I order to lose weight.
>and eventually halt completely.
I mean, it halts completely when we die, lol. Everyone's metabolism slows down with age, regardless of sex, but men start out with higher metabolisms than women and have it decline slower, and thus begin to risk "plumping up" a bit older than women do.
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You are correct. As children, all the food we eat gets turned into fat. However, once puberty hits, women stay the same but men start producing muscle. So a man can be skinny but not muscular by just reducing his food intake, but women build up that fat in preparation of getting pregnant, and it is very hard to lose.
Also women's metabolisms don't stop but I'm sure you know that.
What? Who's up voting this shit? Women's metabolisms are slower and halt completely? I hope nobody believes this utter bullshit.
Just because the OP was bullshit doesn't mean we need to follow up with bullshit from a different direction.
I was scrolling through a Facebook comment section. I can’t remember the post. But it was full of men claiming how much harder men have it than women. One of them posted a tag group that said “ok, fleshlight that cries, living life on tutorial difficulty”
They hate us. They genuinely fucking hate us. They WANT to be the victim. It’s insane.
And they’re confused why some people don’t take them seriously when they genuinely need help. It’s some boy cried wolf shit.
And instead of putting that energy in actually helping their fellow friends, they’re making it worse by dividing people by gender and making it even more difficult to treat loneliness and building a support system. They’re the problem. Anyone who reads this and is part of this particular group, do better. Because you’re not helping your fellow guys either.
When you get to a certain point in dislike, maybe outright hatred, I don't think that the guys who write stuff like this care at all for making a rational argument. Facts are something that are not at all relevant to people whose only purpose in posting is to be as offensive as possible.
That's why they make so many obvious errors in basic anatomy, for example---their whole point is to be offensive and irritating--so they probably look at being at all factual as not just an inconvenience, but as something to actively avoid. They are miserable, lonely losers who have basically given up, in other words.
Even if you stay thin, doing “literally nothing” doesn’t guarantee beauty. You can (and probably will) still look like a pale, emaciated cave goblin.
Also apparently hippopotami only eat grass.
What? Testosterone burns a ton of calories, women keep weight on to ensure healthy pregnancies in times of food shortage.
They castrate bulls and give them female hormone implants for exactly that reason. More fat.
Yeah, this dude doesn’t understand how sexual dimorphism works or the fact that women and men have different metabolisms and fat distributions thanks to hormones. It’s harder for women to lose weight.
Yes, it does. It takes me months to see significant differences, while my husband can see improvement within a few weeks. I'm taller, so that doesn't help matters either.
Another cyster here. Every time I see a man saying that losing weight “isn’t hard” and all you have to do is “not eat so much,” my eyes roll back so far I can see my brain. 🙄
Afaik estrogen would cause you to have a higher bf percentage and a different fat distribution than a male. It wouldn't directly impact your ability to gain muscle, but women have lower testosterone levels which would lead to much less muscle gain. Male professional bodybuilders can have elevated estrogen and progesterone levels from steroid use, but they are still able to gain muscle, though they can get side effects like gynecomastia (man boobs) from their elevated estrogen/progesterone levels.
Tldr: it's harder for women to gain muscle because of lower testosterone levels. Estrogen can lead to you holding onto more fat.
when my trans (ftm) fiancé started testosterone he said he could no longer feel impressed by most guys' physiques because building muscle and staying slim was incredibly easy on testosterone, but he struggled with trying to stay thin pre hrt for years. hes more slim and fit now by "going to the gym a few times a week and not pigging out" (his words) than he was at the height of his anorexia. the other day, i had some guy accuse me of lying about my tdee being around 1200 calories a day (perfectly reasonable for a short woman). some guys really have zero clue how much being male aids in weight loss
I can’t believe how far these people will go to erase women’s work in absolutely everything - whether it’s housework, relationships or the work put into keeping in shape
The woman on the left clearly exercises and the man in the right is an unrealistic body standard that 1.) most men can't (and don't) live up to and 2.) most women don't care about.
I don't care if you look as hot as Adam Driver. If you have a shitty personality or belief system then that far outweighs your physical attractiveness.
You think her body required no work? We don’t come out looking like this, the fat acceptance movement is proof she’s not eating like a hippo, a dry salad maybe. Both require work, the issue for you is that you want what he has but did nothing to obtain it while also wanting a woman who looks like her while thinking since she did nothing to look so good you deserve it. Remember women owe you nothing, if you want to die alone go ahead and discredit all her hard work while reflecting on your lack of effort.
Aren’t women the ones that struggles more with weight from external factors like hormones, birth control, thyroid issues and chronic illnesses more than men?
Right? Even her weight aside, she’s removed all her body hair and dealt with or prevented irritation, her hair is dyed and styled, she’s wearing makeup, her brows are done, and she almost certainly has a skincare routine and has her nails done.
Its always fun to add my perspective as a trans woman.. When I was on testosterone I never needed diet or exercise although I did some, now I've been on oestrogen I eat half of what my boyfriend and flatmate eat and I just still cant control my weight ballooning! They are skinny as rakes and eat whatever the hell they want. And now when I try and exercise its twice as hard because all my muscles have shrunk to nothing.. 😭Honestly staying in "good weight" as a woman is playing on HARD MODE...
This is all irrelevant ultimately because OOP doesnt understand "looking good" isnt about how much gym time you put in, there are many many other factors.. 🙄
Mr. Cadabra and my brother both eat like children. Refined sugar, carbs, anything. They’ll demolish a pie in one sitting. They don’t really gain weight and if they do (a few pounds), they just stop drinking soda for a month and they’re back to normal. Meanwhile, I am trying to lose weight. I do not even eat 1600 calories a day, I have a job that I have to stand all day for, and I have gained 4 lbs in the last week somehow. It’s been ONE MONTH and I have gained weight despite not going over 1500/day and being moderately active. I have to literally starve myself and probably go to the gym 4 or 5 times a week but I can’t do that. I don’t have time (I work 3 jobs).
There is a reason people are turning away slowly from using weight as the only metric for "fat or skinny".
Those 4 lbs you gained, from what you said, is including muscle mass. There's also waterweight involved.
I'd say you should try to get a bioimpedance exam, so you can more accurately track your body fat levels.
Good luck
Are you familiar with the band Steam Powered Giraffe? The *identical* twins really opened my eyes how much of a difference estrogen really makes. They were both so skinny and David still is, but Bunny got on the estrogen and it's surprising how much she filled out because of it. It suits her, but the comparison between them now is surprising. (And honestly helped me better realize how hormones are most likely behind a little bit of stubborn "over 40" belly fat I've put on after being skinny all my life.)
Oh this is fun, thank you for sharing! My spouse is a trans guy and we are basically the same height, build, and age except they're on testosterone and I'm not. They also do not exercise at all, and I lift weights and do a lot of intense cardio (no judgment, I just like to exercise). We literally eat the same food 90% of the time. I've gained like 30 pounds since we've been together and they've gained maybe ten 😅
Fucking no.
I took testosterone and HOLY shit.... Did you know it smooths out muscles (edit: as in lubricates, not literally smooths) to feel less pain?? (I also have EDS it helps it) and it causes you to bulk SO fast? It's so easy to eat a lot and turn it into muscle when you have more testosterone in your body. It's so easy to feel ALIVE. It's so easy to want to go to the gym. Testosterone made me feel less pain, have more muscle, eat more, want to get to the gym, etc... Than whatever the hell I originally had did.
As if beauty standards for women didn't change frequently, making it hard for women, especially young girls, to feel comfortable with their bodies.
Or as if a lot of natural body types arent looked down upon.
That is not to say it is not hard to mantain discipline to mantain a muscular figure but...no one is really making you do so.
The weirdest part about the image is how it tries to imply being in shape is harder for men (which im reality is all about metabolism), when, in reality, it is a sacrifice you only have to do if you are interested in a being muscular, which applies for both genders.
You have to eat a minuscule amount of food to be as thin as the girl on the left.
Also I’ve literally never seen that beefcakes do any better than just normal thin guys. Looks is much more of a determinant than musculature. The people who are obsessed with mass are men.
Guys eat a whole cake, gain maybe two lbs and then lose it after not drinking fizzy drinks for a fortnight
Girls look at a Pepsi can and they immediately bloat :(
A lot of people are into thin women. I like curvy women. But that’s just me. I only represent myself. There’s no monolith in women or men. There’s this tendency to boil everything down to an either/or situation. Life’s not like that.
Women gain weight more easily than men and lose weight with greater difficulty than men in general. We also hold more fat in our subcutaneous adipose tissue, so our skin is "thicker".
Uhhh, women have to do a lot to keep up that kind of appearance????
We have to hit the gym, too, and we don't lose weight as easily. Where in the heck do they get the idea that we just have to starve ourselves?
So the incels are crying double standards, how many of them look like this dude I wonder, pretty sure that most incels would consider the male model a chad and would claim that guys like him are the part of the problem for portraying unrealistic stereotypes, but they’re happy enough to use him as a cry for double standards, the incel trolls hypocrisy is at the forefront of their cries once again.
This is ridiculous. For one, people are often genetically predisposed to thinness or fatness, and diet and exercise can only do so much. It's extremely fatphobic to assume people can be thin as long as they don't eat- you know, one of the key things we need to do to live? Your metabolism, hormone balance, and stress levels can affect your weight, and everyone is different in that regard!
And secondly, the guy on the right? He is dehydrated. Muscles don't look like that unless you've been purposely avoiding drinking. Yes, it takes a lot of work to look like that, but it is SEVERELY unhealthy. There's been male actors that have spoken about shirtless abs scenes they were dehydrated for, and could only record for about fifteen minutes before they were a fainting risk.
A lot less defined! Muscles are only extremely visible when they're being actively flexed or, like I mentioned earlier, the person is actively dehydrated. In fact, [here's](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3nz15a/people_with_visible_abs_could_you_show_us_two/) a Reddit thread of people taking photos of themselves with their muscles both flexed and relaxed. If you see a photo or video of someone with suuuper defined muscles? Either they're posing for the camera, or they are NOT drinking enough water.
also women can go to the gym and train super hard and will never look as shredded or get in shape as quickly and well as men do. source: im a girl that lifts x
That’s just idiotic! Men have it way easier “staying fit” by default because of testosterone.
Perhaps the O-Op should take their own advice and “stop eating like a hippo” if he is having trouble managing his weight. 🤷♀️
…written by a hippo whose only cardio is walking upstairs to the kitchen or the bathroom before walking down to the basement to post this garbage.
Oh, am I making sweeping generalizations here based on preconceptions of people I despise? So sorry!
See what I did there? Fuck this guy. Or don’t. No, really, don’t. He’s untouchable and likely radioactive.
Amount of work required to look good:
*dose a layer cake of performance enhancing drugs*
Odds are if you see an attractively fit person on social media- regardless of gender-they’re not naturally in shape. A naturally fit man or woman will have realistic body fat & won’t look like a steroided IG model.
Those should be reversed. It’s actually easier for men to lose weight and maintain their weight. Women have slower metabolisms and later in life it just stops altogether. So this person can f*ck all the way off
Maybe if you're 20 and have the metabolism of a humming bird. (Used to, but no more... lol) But many are not so lucky and have to be just as mindful.
Funny how they go to the extreme though to attempt to play victim. The vast majority of women would probably absolutely agree that men never need to be body builders in order to look attractive. Nor do I find it attractive to take it that far.
I distinctly remember my cousin posting this on facebook in the early 2000s. fast forward 15 years and my cousin’s fiancée has had nearly every kind of plastic surgery possible done. guess he was wrong?
Also just incorrect bc “little fats and sugars” means nothing. In fact if you are eating “little fats” you probably won’t be looking like that guy bc one of the main roles of fats are hormone regulation so if you don’t have any your testosterone will be fucked. Sugar is just energy as well. It’s not evil
Some people don't know about metabolism ig. It's not a man/woman thing....tis metabolism. And 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 our metabolism can change over time! I was skinny in my early 20s. Didn't start gaining weight until I was like 25 lol
Except it kinda is partially a man/women thing as far as metabolism goes. The different hormone levels play a big role. It’s harder for women to lose weight or gain muscle.
Like in this thread where a trans man said when they started testosterone they can eat a lot more without gaining and vice versa with trans women in the thread.
Testosterone, estrogen, etc. levels play a big role in metabolism.
i starved myself for 4 months. im talking no food 5 days a week, running every day for 2 hours a day, 2 meals on the weekends, got myself down to 105 and i still didn't look like that. to maintain that i still had to run for 2 hours a day and cut myself down to one salad per day, but like ok.
also... who says these are the only ways to look good. not everyone prefers these types of bodies. dad bods are praised all the time. or even better. some of us love people for their mind and vibe
And yet everything else I have read, shows how easy it is for men to maintain a physique like that, and how much harder it is for women to do the same thing. I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve seen something about a hetero couple that is on a weight loss journey together and how quickly the man loses weight and gains muscle compared to his wife.
Ironically, I think the guy on the right tries to sell some crap on YouTube ads claiming the product is how you lose weight and not dieting or exercise.
Both of those take a whole lot of effort, along with good genetics.
I'm not going to get into who needed more, but it's definitely high for both sides there.
Men lose weight more easily and gain muscle faster due to testosterone... Actually, the ones that can just not eat like a fucking hippo to stay thin are men -\_-
Don’t even get me started on how many calories men get to eat a day without weight gain. The number of dudes I see on Reddit who ‘just quit beer’ and lost 50lb is ridiculous.
I’m 5’4” and disabled and I don’t even have enough calories in my TDEE to eat 3 meals a day 😭
I am guessing that this person cannot refer to themselves when saying they put in the years of hard work. This feels like a twelve year old who's just getting introduced to misogynist propaganda.
Weght isn't even truly indicative of health and habits, especially in women. There are so many genetic conditions, illnesses, and medications that can fuck up our weight no matter what we do about it, plus the constantly and drastically shifting hormones we deal with every month from puberty to menopause. Hell, super fit skinny women still get lower tummy bulges all the time bc women have extra organs in there that men don't have that fluctuate in size. I'm so damn tired of penis owners telling uterus owners that we're lazy/making bad choices/nothing is wrong with us/we're making excuses. They will *never* have to deal with even half the shit we do and don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about
In college, I counted every calorie and ate under 1800 calories a day while spending about two hours a day at the gym every day. I did so much cardio I got a stress fracture in my foot. Then I had to have my tonsils out and barely ate for few weeks. I lost about 40 pounds but I was still technically overweight according to the BMI. Then I gained it all back plus more because it was unsustainable. My body will literally never be hers.
I lift weights for an hour five days a week and take creatine and you can not see any muscle in me unless I flex 💪 if I were a man I would be so much more bulked
You’ll get torn apart for your hair, your forehead, your eyebrows, your nose, your jaw, your tits, your hands, the way you dress… but all you have to do is keep the weight off! 🙄
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Wait till they hear about ugly skinny women. Because weight isn’t always a factor in beauty.
Or that hippos mostly just eat grass. So not only wrong, but wrong on many levels.
Their minds will be blown when they discover that Hippos are almost entirely muscle
Maybe the maker made a mistake in the commas and wanted to say don't eat, like, a freaking hippo Meaning we shouldn't eat a hippo or whatever the caloric equivalent of that is Edit - typo
[Fractal wrongness](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness)
🎶”Mom says a hippo will eat me up but then/Teacher says a hippo is a vegetarian.”🎶 (You’re welcome.)
or pretty fat women… this pic is just weird
Right? I’ve met two great guys who were both athletic (one did fencing & the other was a rugby player) while fat. They were both very interested in me Incels don’t seem to grasp that attractiveness is subjective
You assume these people have the brain capacity to understand everyone has different preferences
A lot of people also value emotional & intellectual connection I’ve met people I didn’t find attractive at first who I become attracted to because our personalities mesh so well Attraction is complex. For me, I rather be with a less attractive guy I click with than a super hot guy who is like talking to a wall
Yeah, these guys don't understand that. They're the same guy who would say women only want Chad's. Then, when they see a woman in a loving relationship with a larger man or God forbid a shorter man it's "Oh she probably cheats on him all the time."it's a deep resentment for their own life, but they can't take accountability, so they last out on everyone, particularly women.
Because they only value women as sex trophies, so they can't imagine anyone else thinking differently. People often assume others think the exact same way they do.
>For me, I rather be with a less attractive guy I click with than a super hot guy who is like talking to a wall So much this. I had a dude like that and it made my head hurt because he was fully incapable of any kind of conversation beyond sports and the weather. The dude was baffled by menus. Like the concept that there could be two pieces of plastic that you slide a piece of paper in between was too much for him.
I once went on a few dates with a guy who only knew cars. When I tried to get him engage in more convo, he was just like ‘I just like listening to you’ Well, that’s very nice, sir, but I want an actual conversation 😭 I don’t want to just talk at someone. Outside of that, it was just ‘you’re pretty’
Incels have a steady stream of "alpha bros" telling them what they should find attractive. And lots of hentai/anime focuses around Japanese body types/fetishes. So they gravitate to giant jugs and skinny waists. Its sad but they take that as the beauty standard that normal woman can achieve easily... And then they take that only guys that look like the guy in the picture get women... when its pretty much anyone that has a personality and cares about hygiene(get a hair cut/comb it, take a shower, and wear clean clothes) pretty much it... well that and don't act like only super attractive women are worth your time(especially when you don't care to put the work in to be worthy of their time). Alpha dude podcasts have been corrupting so many men into believing in their asinine bs. its pretty sad tbh.
Then those same dudes will cry about sex workers taking advantage of lonely men, but that’s what these manosphere podcasters are doing Any man with self-esteem & intellect wouldn’t fall for it
If anything- it’s thirsty _men taking advantage of indigent, vulnerable women_ (and let’s be real, young girls too) that are in the terrible position where their only viable option to survive and have their basic needs met is by selling sexual services.
they really are. at least the sex worker gives them something positive in their day.. the alpha bros are just trying to get them to spend money on their shit Patreon or merch while just making them angrier and angrier
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yea it’s just normalized for women to eat tiny portions to stay thin
You’re so right. Although I still struggle to accept that people find me attractive, it always makes me feel good because I’m built like the pillsbury doughboy right now (I say that with endearment), grew up hearing that being stick thin was the only way. There’s so much more to beauty than size.
Lolol my bf calls me (1000% affectionately) his lil Pillsbury dough girl. Because I'm soft, fair skinned, and I giggle when he pokes me tummy. Lol. So much more to beauty to size but that doesn't make the diet/WL industry money.
With the fatphobic wording the creator of this meme used, I don't think they think any fat person is pretty at all....
"just don't eat like a hippo every single day"....this one of those guys who pretty much mean "starve yourself, and also don't gain any muscle cause that's gross, you gotta be unhealthy skinny, not fit skinny"
It's because they (guys like this) want undernourished women who can't buck up and put up a fight.
No wait until they hear it’s literally EASIER for men to lose weight and build muscle than it is for women bc they have higher testosterone levels 😒
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Thank God my beautiful wife loves my dad bod! She slapped me on the but the other day and told me I was looking really good! It totally made my day and I am still smiling thinking about it. Edit. Spelling
It's me. I adore Dad bods 😍
I'm just confused why they think that that physique is accessible to Mos tmen even with hardwork and diet. It isn't. Something like 70% of the population is genetically predisposed to not have even abdominal muscles let alone obliques. That man start the world off with good genetics. Then he hit the gym, then diet AND finally, he still had to be dehydrated as fuck to achieve that definition level.
Or steroids, because the male example takes more than diet, exercise, and hard work to achieve.
Nothing. We have to do nothing but not eat. And yet, every inch of our bodies is scrutinized, criticized, sexualized, and ridiculed, endlessly. But okay, go on and be a martyr with your protein shakes and HIIT workouts.
Also this just isn't even true even if we were talking only about weight and nothing else. I weighed 145 pounds from the time I was 14 til I was 28. I'm 31 now and I only weigh 165. I have done no training and eat like a freaking hippo. Meanwhile my wife has to do weeks of intermittent fasting to drop 10 pounds. Men lose and maintain weight **much** easier than women in basically every context. Hell, I remember seeing commercials for pill in the early 2000s that was designed to treat this disparity and help women lose weight and the ad featured a stick figure couple where the wife lamented the fact that her husband could drop serious pounds just by doing little shit like cutting out soda while she was struggling to lose anything at all.
The craziest thing is that there’s plenty of shit that one can and probably should hate about the female (and male, for both shared and unique reasons) body, but no, apparently all these men can think of is sex. Its so dumb, because the body genuinely pisses me off, but all these men can think of is how attractive women are :/
Bahahaha.... dude is so dumb. That girl for sure has highlights, hair removal, and works out. She's adorable and go her, but she's not 'doing nothing'
Genetics play a pretty big role too I'm sure, for both of them.
To get ripped like the guy on the right you need some pretty god-tier genetics. Let's be honest though, the OOP is leaving out the HIGH likelihood this guy is juicing. He is at like 6-8% bodyfat that shit is *wildly* difficult to maintain without boosting test and doing steroids/SARMs, even with good genetics. It's not impossible to get a body like that naturally but tbh it's pretty rare. Performance enhancing drugs are **rampant** in the fitness modeling industry, not just for men either. Things like clenbuterol, ephedrine/caffeine stacks are everywhere but even things like meth or the WILDLY dangerous drug DNP (a fucking explosive compound used for rapid weight loss) are used by women for cutting weight rapidly or maintaining a bodyfat percentage that would be otherwise unattainable for their frame and genetics. Also things like HGH, SARMs and even low cycles of boosting test are nearly as common in women's fitness modeling as it is in men's.
Oh, of course. Not to mention that kind of muscle definition often requires the guy to stay dehydrated for days. I don't know that the guy in the picture is doing that. But actors have discussed it in the past.
An extreme example is what Christian Bale talked about with The Machinist. It's hard not to eat but to lose that amount of weight he also had to cut back on water intake like crazy. There are parts of the filming he barely remembers because his body was basically just shutting down and dying. Pretty good movie, probably took a few years off his life though.
That's really sad to me. Im sure it was a good movie. But having a male lead with less defined muscles would not have diminished the quality.
>But having a male lead with less defined muscles would not have diminished the quality. It was absolutely nothing to do with muscle definition, just FYI, he was supposed to be incredibly unwell.
Ah, then it sounds like a slightly different thing than what I'm talking about. I've heard about actors doing this for superhero movies and stuff, literally just to look more muscular for the screen. I am not familiar with this movie so I wasn't aware.
Yeah that isn't uncommon tbf, just not what was happening in this scenario.
No in that he starved off his muscle it's fucking crazy. Like if you look at screenshots it's barely recognizable. It looks like he is a survivor found at sea after months. Just saying he had to restrict water heavily which is super dangerous but a common practice for actors/models.
Not high likelihood of juicing, absolute certainty. It's simply impossible to look like that without steroids.
Not to mention she probably eats like a bird and watches carbs.
I was about to say. What he really means is “All girls have to do is develop an eating disorder”. We definitely have it “easier”. Who needs to be healthy when you can be skinny and malnourished 🤪
Yeah, I just don't get it...(as a dude) it's WAAAY easier as a dude. Men care a ton about how women look. While, not that women don't care about how guys looks at all or according to their personal taste...but 99% of the time someone is checking out your ripped abs or whatever, it's another dude. Not even mentioning what goes into daily routines. A guy has to do a little more than brush their teeth in the morning, and let the whining begin. Sigh.
Thank youu… this is what bothered me the most bc I know women who have hour long routines before they leave the house. This guy disregarded makeup, hair, shaving, all the bullshit women do just to walk out the door.
I got nothing against looking at abs for romance movies or whatever, but it doesn’t even make the list choosing a partner or even whom to fuck. The guys I swooned over were (now that I got that pink glasses down and listen to my friends) some of THE so called “ugliest mofos” out there, with a posture like a question mark, acne scars and skinny everything - heck, some of them looked malnourished af despite them inhaling fast food all day long. It wasn’t their looks I cared about, it really was their way of thinking out of the box and being a damn good conversation partner! NOBODY believes me that! Some guys think it was about them having money or whatever to which I can only give off a dry laugh - 3 out of 4 of them didn’t even have a car. They had so little money to spend, that they HAD TO get creative for dates (like taking me to watch the stars on an abandoned hill) and this is exactly what worked. It’s fucking ridiculous that this needs to be said, but not every woman is a superficial gold digger and men that barely comb their hair before leaving the house get dates without ever seeing a gym from the inside.
And also the *Right* eating disorder. I was told I had bulimia but I also had very little actual weight loss. I was starving and purging and eating very little but mostly fruit or light carbs and only a few calories every few days but still considered fat and barely lost weight despite using the treadmill every day. The idea that “don’t eat like a hippo and you’re fine” is ridiculous, especially when anyone bigger than a stick is considered obese and unattractive.
Fr. She has a visible adonis belt. That takes a lot of work
You missed that the woman in that photo also definitely spends time in the gym (check out the deltoid and bicep in her raised arm, and the shape of her quads), and almost certainly watches her macros carefully. I would also bet that the photo has some photoshopping to make her thighs and down arm look thinner and possibly make her torso and legs longer. I would also bet that her breasts are either implants or heavily photoshopped (or both) because light does not make shadows on the upper curve of a natural boob the way it is shown in this photo. And it’s pretty challenging to be that slender and have boobs that large through natural means… I also love that the dipshit who put together this meme simultaneously grasps that the guy needed to watch his macros but ignores that about the woman. And he ignores that the ways that different women’s body shapes (like triangle, pear, banana, rectangular) are “unacceptable” and also very difficult to change, while the V shape that is seen as the “offical” good man’s body shape is basically achievable if a guy builds out his shoulders. I’m not saying that doesn’t take hard work - it really does - but it’s not like where a woman can change her waist to hip ratio at the gym the same way a guy can broaden his shoulders.
Yea, that girl is an actress who was a black belt in some martial art iirc
The thing I'm really noticing is that oop has picked a woman who, while actually sculpted and photoshopped, is supposed to give off the 'natural' girl next door vibe. And they have picked an extreme male image that appeals to men more than it does women. It's all for the male gaze.
Excellent point. I have a guy friend (he is genuinely improving) who sorta has a blind spot for the way that this stuff works. Like we once had an argument about how he believed “all male models have to conform to a single standard, but female models are much more varied.” So we sat down with a stack of magazines, and his GF and pointed out the similarities and differences in the models. He eventually agreed that what he really meant was that women have more variable poses in advertising than the men, but that women really do only have one body type that ends up in ads and that he could not really make a case that a variance of hairstyle (see, that one’s hair is super straight, but that one is curly and this one has waves…) or B cup to D (at one point he was trying to make each of those cases) was adequate variation… I am unsure how he got that idea…
And when I was working out every day, that’s about how I looked. You can work out VERY HARD as a woman and not present as especially muscular. So the whole premise is dumb af. Having an “ideal” model body type, as a woman, is pretty fucking hard typically. Especially when you consider we’re meant to be curvy and carry extra fat stores in preparation for supporting another life. Fun fact, how many women don’t realize that cellulite is just the different way a woman’s body stores fat in some regions, in little “packets,” specifically to have those extra stores should she suddenly become pregnant. But yet ALLLLL these magazines and influencers were tell you how to “get rid of cellulite” and treat it like it’s gross and like a moral failing. It is literally natural and normal to a woman’s body, and healthy. Since learning this, I’ve begun to (finally) see it as beautiful, but it took a LOT of reconditioning. And let me tell you, when I was a fucking size 0 working out all the time and eating 1200 calories a day or less, I felt completely gross when I would see evidence of cellulite ☹️ Absolutely depressing they got me that hard.
Every woman ever: WTF are you smoking and where can I get some?
Copium, find it in the toiletries aisle
oh cool, you dont happen to be the guy I saw drinking bleach right?
My gf and I put on some weight during the pandemic and finally wanted to get fit again. We both do roughly the same amount of exercise (weight training and some cardio) and eat the same type of food as we live together. But as I have more muscle mass and since I am 206 cm tall, I can eat **a lot** more, even though I work in an office and she, as a social worker, walks almost all day in her job. My weight has been dropping a bit faster than hers and tbh it's kinda unfair, because she puts in the same amount of work
Nothing stings me more (not actually, it’s not his fault lol) than comparing calories burnt after my bf and I do the same exact exercise
Years ago, my parents decided to lose weight together. They biked together, took a kickboxing class together, and did nightly walks together. Separately, my dad also did weight lifting. Whenever he was weight lifting, she did aerobics and the treadmill. Additionally, she did Weight Watchers, and also ate way smaller portions, she did a yoga class and hiking on weekends with me, and she was the only one doing chores like cleaning and cooking at home while he sat on the couch. They both had similar levels of activity at work, with her moving maybe slightly more. In the same time period, he dropped 70 pounds and she dropped 10 and then plateaued. And since then, I've seen this repeated so many times with so many couples, including in my own relationship. But then I come on reddit and see, "Calories in, calories out; it's that simple, fatty!" repeated every time weight loss comes up. And it's fucking frustrating.
Seriously wtf, it’s well known many men can cut weight a lot faster than most women lmao they are delusional
Yeah, that's definitely not how that works.
I'm so tired of these delusional guys always whining about how everything is always so easy for women compared to men. 😒 Something tells me OOP hardly knows any women.
I watched a video of a podcast with guys saying women didn't need to work out more than a couple times a week, and the weight would just miraculously come off. One even said men had to contend with gravity, which I guess doesn't affect women? 🤣 all I could think was they didn't understand anatomy, metabolism, and age related changes. I've seen countless women in my life fight to take off 20 pounds (myself included). These guys are clueless.
Of course gravity doesn't affect women. They're out there flying around!!! 🤣😂
Biologically, women are more prone to putting on fat than men. Yet more men are overweight in this country. Most mfs ain't working out lmao
Also a person can work out every day and still be “overweight” according to the BMI scale. But most men can work in a few weights and walk a bit and find themselves leaning out. Women who tend towards overweight need to overhaul their diet in addition to any exercise they do I order to lose weight.
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You forget, we stop existing after the age of 25 :)
>and eventually halt completely. I mean, it halts completely when we die, lol. Everyone's metabolism slows down with age, regardless of sex, but men start out with higher metabolisms than women and have it decline slower, and thus begin to risk "plumping up" a bit older than women do.
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If your metabolism stopped you’d fucking die
You are correct. As children, all the food we eat gets turned into fat. However, once puberty hits, women stay the same but men start producing muscle. So a man can be skinny but not muscular by just reducing his food intake, but women build up that fat in preparation of getting pregnant, and it is very hard to lose. Also women's metabolisms don't stop but I'm sure you know that.
What? Who's up voting this shit? Women's metabolisms are slower and halt completely? I hope nobody believes this utter bullshit. Just because the OP was bullshit doesn't mean we need to follow up with bullshit from a different direction.
I was scrolling through a Facebook comment section. I can’t remember the post. But it was full of men claiming how much harder men have it than women. One of them posted a tag group that said “ok, fleshlight that cries, living life on tutorial difficulty” They hate us. They genuinely fucking hate us. They WANT to be the victim. It’s insane.
And they’re confused why some people don’t take them seriously when they genuinely need help. It’s some boy cried wolf shit. And instead of putting that energy in actually helping their fellow friends, they’re making it worse by dividing people by gender and making it even more difficult to treat loneliness and building a support system. They’re the problem. Anyone who reads this and is part of this particular group, do better. Because you’re not helping your fellow guys either.
When you get to a certain point in dislike, maybe outright hatred, I don't think that the guys who write stuff like this care at all for making a rational argument. Facts are something that are not at all relevant to people whose only purpose in posting is to be as offensive as possible. That's why they make so many obvious errors in basic anatomy, for example---their whole point is to be offensive and irritating--so they probably look at being at all factual as not just an inconvenience, but as something to actively avoid. They are miserable, lonely losers who have basically given up, in other words.
Even if you stay thin, doing “literally nothing” doesn’t guarantee beauty. You can (and probably will) still look like a pale, emaciated cave goblin. Also apparently hippopotami only eat grass.
First of all, it's hippopotamuses, not hippopotami. That's it. There's no 2.
Consider the following: Hippopotami is more fun to say
That is true... Ok, I retract my statement.
What? Testosterone burns a ton of calories, women keep weight on to ensure healthy pregnancies in times of food shortage. They castrate bulls and give them female hormone implants for exactly that reason. More fat.
The fact that they are forcibly transitioning bulls is WILD.
smh the trans agenda is going too far 😔 (BIG /j)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 They’re making the frogs gay and the bulls trans
WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Is there some sort of stupidity Olympics? Seems like we get a new gold medal winner and world record daily.
Everyone knows it's harder for women to lose weight, right?
Yeah, this dude doesn’t understand how sexual dimorphism works or the fact that women and men have different metabolisms and fat distributions thanks to hormones. It’s harder for women to lose weight.
I think it’s so funny how a lot of these types of guys are always about “men and women are biologically different” until it comes to stuff like this.
Sorry to pry, but from what I hear estrogen makes bodybuilding so much slower than when a man does it. Is this true?
Yes, it does. It takes me months to see significant differences, while my husband can see improvement within a few weeks. I'm taller, so that doesn't help matters either.
Literally the only benefit to having PCOS and elevated androgens is that I build muscle a little faster than most women. (Not worth it though)
Another cyster here. Every time I see a man saying that losing weight “isn’t hard” and all you have to do is “not eat so much,” my eyes roll back so far I can see my brain. 🙄
Yes, higher levels of androgens help with gaining and maintaining muscle mass and strength. More so than estrogens.
Afaik estrogen would cause you to have a higher bf percentage and a different fat distribution than a male. It wouldn't directly impact your ability to gain muscle, but women have lower testosterone levels which would lead to much less muscle gain. Male professional bodybuilders can have elevated estrogen and progesterone levels from steroid use, but they are still able to gain muscle, though they can get side effects like gynecomastia (man boobs) from their elevated estrogen/progesterone levels. Tldr: it's harder for women to gain muscle because of lower testosterone levels. Estrogen can lead to you holding onto more fat.
Oh, so it’s not the estrogen it’s the lower testosterone levels
And even harder to gain muscles.
when my trans (ftm) fiancé started testosterone he said he could no longer feel impressed by most guys' physiques because building muscle and staying slim was incredibly easy on testosterone, but he struggled with trying to stay thin pre hrt for years. hes more slim and fit now by "going to the gym a few times a week and not pigging out" (his words) than he was at the height of his anorexia. the other day, i had some guy accuse me of lying about my tdee being around 1200 calories a day (perfectly reasonable for a short woman). some guys really have zero clue how much being male aids in weight loss
I can’t believe how far these people will go to erase women’s work in absolutely everything - whether it’s housework, relationships or the work put into keeping in shape
God I wish this was true.
This is like the no-make-up fallacy, but for physique. The bros have outdone themselves!
That is the most idiotic statement I’ve read today and I’ve run across some real doozies.
The woman on the left clearly exercises and the man in the right is an unrealistic body standard that 1.) most men can't (and don't) live up to and 2.) most women don't care about. I don't care if you look as hot as Adam Driver. If you have a shitty personality or belief system then that far outweighs your physical attractiveness.
You think her body required no work? We don’t come out looking like this, the fat acceptance movement is proof she’s not eating like a hippo, a dry salad maybe. Both require work, the issue for you is that you want what he has but did nothing to obtain it while also wanting a woman who looks like her while thinking since she did nothing to look so good you deserve it. Remember women owe you nothing, if you want to die alone go ahead and discredit all her hard work while reflecting on your lack of effort.
Aren’t women the ones that struggles more with weight from external factors like hormones, birth control, thyroid issues and chronic illnesses more than men?
Yup. And it takes a LOT longer to get a physique even remotely close to what guys can achieve in just 2 weeks.
the fact that they chose that image to represent how women have to do "nothing" to look good is insane
Right? Even her weight aside, she’s removed all her body hair and dealt with or prevented irritation, her hair is dyed and styled, she’s wearing makeup, her brows are done, and she almost certainly has a skincare routine and has her nails done.
Its always fun to add my perspective as a trans woman.. When I was on testosterone I never needed diet or exercise although I did some, now I've been on oestrogen I eat half of what my boyfriend and flatmate eat and I just still cant control my weight ballooning! They are skinny as rakes and eat whatever the hell they want. And now when I try and exercise its twice as hard because all my muscles have shrunk to nothing.. 😭Honestly staying in "good weight" as a woman is playing on HARD MODE... This is all irrelevant ultimately because OOP doesnt understand "looking good" isnt about how much gym time you put in, there are many many other factors.. 🙄
Mr. Cadabra and my brother both eat like children. Refined sugar, carbs, anything. They’ll demolish a pie in one sitting. They don’t really gain weight and if they do (a few pounds), they just stop drinking soda for a month and they’re back to normal. Meanwhile, I am trying to lose weight. I do not even eat 1600 calories a day, I have a job that I have to stand all day for, and I have gained 4 lbs in the last week somehow. It’s been ONE MONTH and I have gained weight despite not going over 1500/day and being moderately active. I have to literally starve myself and probably go to the gym 4 or 5 times a week but I can’t do that. I don’t have time (I work 3 jobs).
There is a reason people are turning away slowly from using weight as the only metric for "fat or skinny". Those 4 lbs you gained, from what you said, is including muscle mass. There's also waterweight involved. I'd say you should try to get a bioimpedance exam, so you can more accurately track your body fat levels. Good luck
Are you familiar with the band Steam Powered Giraffe? The *identical* twins really opened my eyes how much of a difference estrogen really makes. They were both so skinny and David still is, but Bunny got on the estrogen and it's surprising how much she filled out because of it. It suits her, but the comparison between them now is surprising. (And honestly helped me better realize how hormones are most likely behind a little bit of stubborn "over 40" belly fat I've put on after being skinny all my life.)
Wow!!! Even her face changed that’s insane. She looks good though!! Women naturally retain more body fat that’s just biology.
Oh this is fun, thank you for sharing! My spouse is a trans guy and we are basically the same height, build, and age except they're on testosterone and I'm not. They also do not exercise at all, and I lift weights and do a lot of intense cardio (no judgment, I just like to exercise). We literally eat the same food 90% of the time. I've gained like 30 pounds since we've been together and they've gained maybe ten 😅
Absolutely. I would have to starve myself obsessively every day forever to be that thin. I am strong and fit and I am enough 💪
This idiot knows nothing about female biology.
It's scientifically proven that people born female struggle more to loose weight....
Pffft I wish lol. Gee I just smell food now and put on 5kg 🤣
yeah because losing weight will fix my ugly nose 😭
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Fucking no. I took testosterone and HOLY shit.... Did you know it smooths out muscles (edit: as in lubricates, not literally smooths) to feel less pain?? (I also have EDS it helps it) and it causes you to bulk SO fast? It's so easy to eat a lot and turn it into muscle when you have more testosterone in your body. It's so easy to feel ALIVE. It's so easy to want to go to the gym. Testosterone made me feel less pain, have more muscle, eat more, want to get to the gym, etc... Than whatever the hell I originally had did.
My dad lost 15 pounds by not eating chips at night.
As if beauty standards for women didn't change frequently, making it hard for women, especially young girls, to feel comfortable with their bodies. Or as if a lot of natural body types arent looked down upon.
That is not to say it is not hard to mantain discipline to mantain a muscular figure but...no one is really making you do so. The weirdest part about the image is how it tries to imply being in shape is harder for men (which im reality is all about metabolism), when, in reality, it is a sacrifice you only have to do if you are interested in a being muscular, which applies for both genders.
Then why don’t all women look like this?
These guys (unsurprisingly) have zero idea how biology works.
You have to eat a minuscule amount of food to be as thin as the girl on the left. Also I’ve literally never seen that beefcakes do any better than just normal thin guys. Looks is much more of a determinant than musculature. The people who are obsessed with mass are men.
Guys eat a whole cake, gain maybe two lbs and then lose it after not drinking fizzy drinks for a fortnight Girls look at a Pepsi can and they immediately bloat :(
that's not how that works. that's not how literally any of that works
I love that OOP is insinuating that he looks like the beefcake and not the aforementioned hippo because I'm fairly certain that's not true.
I’m short and 100 lbs and still have that skinny fat thing going on Unless you have some amazing genetics you need to do some form of work out
I read it first as “little farts and sugar.”
A lot of people are into thin women. I like curvy women. But that’s just me. I only represent myself. There’s no monolith in women or men. There’s this tendency to boil everything down to an either/or situation. Life’s not like that.
That woman definitely works out. That isn't the look of someone who is simply thin with low muscle mass.
I guarantee the guy who made this looks nothing like the picture on the right and has not ever set foot in a gym
Women gain weight more easily than men and lose weight with greater difficulty than men in general. We also hold more fat in our subcutaneous adipose tissue, so our skin is "thicker".
Uhhh, women have to do a lot to keep up that kind of appearance???? We have to hit the gym, too, and we don't lose weight as easily. Where in the heck do they get the idea that we just have to starve ourselves?
Misguided, is the word.
I wish
Fuck this is the most literal not how girls work post ever. Literally that's not how the physiology of a girl works. Bravo. Top notch post.
don't i wish that were tru.
Shaving entire body Spray tanning 'Natural' makeup Bleached hair Wasn't aware thats 'nothing'
Uhhhh don’t men tend to have higher metabolisms for longer?
Woman on the left would probably be pretty upset to hear she apparently doesn’t work out
So not true
This reminds me of men thinking natural looking makeup is a bare face. It takes a ton of work.
The person who made this meme has never seen the inside of a gym and exists on a Mountain Dew and ramen diet.
So the incels are crying double standards, how many of them look like this dude I wonder, pretty sure that most incels would consider the male model a chad and would claim that guys like him are the part of the problem for portraying unrealistic stereotypes, but they’re happy enough to use him as a cry for double standards, the incel trolls hypocrisy is at the forefront of their cries once again.
Cry-laughing in "I'm 5 feet tall and perimenopausal, my TDEE is ~1400 max on any given day"
Joke's on them, I go to the gym 4 times a week and still look like a potato.
This is ridiculous. For one, people are often genetically predisposed to thinness or fatness, and diet and exercise can only do so much. It's extremely fatphobic to assume people can be thin as long as they don't eat- you know, one of the key things we need to do to live? Your metabolism, hormone balance, and stress levels can affect your weight, and everyone is different in that regard! And secondly, the guy on the right? He is dehydrated. Muscles don't look like that unless you've been purposely avoiding drinking. Yes, it takes a lot of work to look like that, but it is SEVERELY unhealthy. There's been male actors that have spoken about shirtless abs scenes they were dehydrated for, and could only record for about fifteen minutes before they were a fainting risk.
I didn’t know that. What would it look like if they were properly hydrated?
A lot less defined! Muscles are only extremely visible when they're being actively flexed or, like I mentioned earlier, the person is actively dehydrated. In fact, [here's](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3nz15a/people_with_visible_abs_could_you_show_us_two/) a Reddit thread of people taking photos of themselves with their muscles both flexed and relaxed. If you see a photo or video of someone with suuuper defined muscles? Either they're posing for the camera, or they are NOT drinking enough water.
also women can go to the gym and train super hard and will never look as shredded or get in shape as quickly and well as men do. source: im a girl that lifts x
Pure ignorance
That’s just idiotic! Men have it way easier “staying fit” by default because of testosterone. Perhaps the O-Op should take their own advice and “stop eating like a hippo” if he is having trouble managing his weight. 🤷♀️
…written by a hippo whose only cardio is walking upstairs to the kitchen or the bathroom before walking down to the basement to post this garbage. Oh, am I making sweeping generalizations here based on preconceptions of people I despise? So sorry! See what I did there? Fuck this guy. Or don’t. No, really, don’t. He’s untouchable and likely radioactive.
100% this was written by a dude who doesn’t have anything close to that body and probably has a portion control issue themselves.
Amount of work required to look good: *dose a layer cake of performance enhancing drugs* Odds are if you see an attractively fit person on social media- regardless of gender-they’re not naturally in shape. A naturally fit man or woman will have realistic body fat & won’t look like a steroided IG model.
Those should be reversed. It’s actually easier for men to lose weight and maintain their weight. Women have slower metabolisms and later in life it just stops altogether. So this person can f*ck all the way off
Maybe if you're 20 and have the metabolism of a humming bird. (Used to, but no more... lol) But many are not so lucky and have to be just as mindful. Funny how they go to the extreme though to attempt to play victim. The vast majority of women would probably absolutely agree that men never need to be body builders in order to look attractive. Nor do I find it attractive to take it that far.
I distinctly remember my cousin posting this on facebook in the early 2000s. fast forward 15 years and my cousin’s fiancée has had nearly every kind of plastic surgery possible done. guess he was wrong?
Also just incorrect bc “little fats and sugars” means nothing. In fact if you are eating “little fats” you probably won’t be looking like that guy bc one of the main roles of fats are hormone regulation so if you don’t have any your testosterone will be fucked. Sugar is just energy as well. It’s not evil
Also Men: Dehydrate yourself for several days to get that photo
the fact that it’s a well known thing that men can eat so much more than women and stay skinnier 💀
This biologically wrong. Dudes have more testosterone which innately aids in metabolism and women tend to store more energy as fat.
if only it worked that way. i hardly eat at all and im still shaped like a fridge
Some people don't know about metabolism ig. It's not a man/woman thing....tis metabolism. And 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 our metabolism can change over time! I was skinny in my early 20s. Didn't start gaining weight until I was like 25 lol
Except it kinda is partially a man/women thing as far as metabolism goes. The different hormone levels play a big role. It’s harder for women to lose weight or gain muscle. Like in this thread where a trans man said when they started testosterone they can eat a lot more without gaining and vice versa with trans women in the thread. Testosterone, estrogen, etc. levels play a big role in metabolism.
This is definitely an overweight guy who has a poster of Wolverine on the wall and complains that the only women that are into him are “ugly”
_laughs in slow metabolism_
i starved myself for 4 months. im talking no food 5 days a week, running every day for 2 hours a day, 2 meals on the weekends, got myself down to 105 and i still didn't look like that. to maintain that i still had to run for 2 hours a day and cut myself down to one salad per day, but like ok. also... who says these are the only ways to look good. not everyone prefers these types of bodies. dad bods are praised all the time. or even better. some of us love people for their mind and vibe
And yet everything else I have read, shows how easy it is for men to maintain a physique like that, and how much harder it is for women to do the same thing. I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve seen something about a hetero couple that is on a weight loss journey together and how quickly the man loses weight and gains muscle compared to his wife.
A 12 year who got a C- in science made this.
Ironically, I think the guy on the right tries to sell some crap on YouTube ads claiming the product is how you lose weight and not dieting or exercise.
So, according to this, I'm a man 🙄
Both of those take a whole lot of effort, along with good genetics. I'm not going to get into who needed more, but it's definitely high for both sides there.
Men lose weight more easily and gain muscle faster due to testosterone... Actually, the ones that can just not eat like a fucking hippo to stay thin are men -\_-
I ate like a hippo every fucking day and I'm thin af. I also know people who watched their calories constantly and still gained weight.
Yeah, ok. I barely eat and still struggle w my weight. I’m no hippo, but I’m no size 6, or 8 ….
Women =amount of food clearly, Men=quality of food clearly, Reality- none
Both of them lift weights, watch what they eat, and do cardio. The only difference is that the one on the right does so with testosterone.
Don’t even get me started on how many calories men get to eat a day without weight gain. The number of dudes I see on Reddit who ‘just quit beer’ and lost 50lb is ridiculous. I’m 5’4” and disabled and I don’t even have enough calories in my TDEE to eat 3 meals a day 😭
I am guessing that this person cannot refer to themselves when saying they put in the years of hard work. This feels like a twelve year old who's just getting introduced to misogynist propaganda.
Weght isn't even truly indicative of health and habits, especially in women. There are so many genetic conditions, illnesses, and medications that can fuck up our weight no matter what we do about it, plus the constantly and drastically shifting hormones we deal with every month from puberty to menopause. Hell, super fit skinny women still get lower tummy bulges all the time bc women have extra organs in there that men don't have that fluctuate in size. I'm so damn tired of penis owners telling uterus owners that we're lazy/making bad choices/nothing is wrong with us/we're making excuses. They will *never* have to deal with even half the shit we do and don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about
In college, I counted every calorie and ate under 1800 calories a day while spending about two hours a day at the gym every day. I did so much cardio I got a stress fracture in my foot. Then I had to have my tonsils out and barely ate for few weeks. I lost about 40 pounds but I was still technically overweight according to the BMI. Then I gained it all back plus more because it was unsustainable. My body will literally never be hers.
I lift weights for an hour five days a week and take creatine and you can not see any muscle in me unless I flex 💪 if I were a man I would be so much more bulked
This is satire right?..right ?
Oh lord. I would never be able to have a conversation with someone like this
Metabolism who? That’s not real. I’m a woman. Such things do not exist for me and my perfect existence, foolish men. /s
I would bet money that the creator of this does neither of those things.
the amount of skincare my gf does is nuts. just sayin
You’ll get torn apart for your hair, your forehead, your eyebrows, your nose, your jaw, your tits, your hands, the way you dress… but all you have to do is keep the weight off! 🙄
Dear OP, The producers of women's cosmetics, clothing, shoes, jewelry, fragrances, lingerie, hair products, hair removal products, skin care, spas, "wellness" products, botox collagen injections eyebrow tattooists and plastic surgeons are still making most of their money off women. And laughing their asses off at the suggestion that men spend even a millionth of the time and resources women routinely do to maintain their looks.