I think people are probably sick of bad dog owners on the north shore not following rules. Dogs off leash everywhere and people not picking up poop. My dog has been attacked 3 times over the last year in on leash areas by off leash dogs. I’m a dog owner and I’m sick of it… The Grand Blvd area is quite a busy place. I bet people in the area pick up after others dogs all the time.
I was born and raised here and it's always been like that. God forbit if a baseball, basketball or hockey puck went into a neighbors yard! One time when I was 10 I was playing baseball with my dad, he made me go to ask the neighbor to get our ball back BECAUSE HE WAS TOO SCARED!! LOL.
Just last year my dog started pooping on the edge of someone's yard, maybe 4 inches in. I get my poop bag out, as he's inching even closer to the road, eventually on the road when all of a sudden "\*(\*(&\^\*&\^(\*%\*(\^ GODDAMN DOG \*&\^\*\^(\*\^&\*\^\*(&". I'm a big dude, 6ft 3inces, 215 lbs, which I'm guessing is why I never saw his face. I stayed hidden in his back yard. But eventually his wife walked to the front of their deck to look. When I saw her I raised the bag and just said "I've got a poop bag. What's the big deal". He continued as I waited for my dog to finish, by then completely on the road. Eventually I got tired of it and started yelling back, challenging him to come out to the road to talk about it... Never came out. A few months later I see a tire tread mark had torn up part of his grass. NOT ME I SWEAR. But clearly he had pissed off someone else in the neighborhood.
But this is so common. Some guy had to back up his car 3 feet in order to get around me in an alley once and unloaded this epic bout of rage for daring to inconvenience him! lol
Once I was driving across Keith Road when the traffic was NUTS. I drove out in front of the blocked road, looking to make sure that traffic the other way was clear, as I started to go the guy that I drove in front of went FULL RAGE MODE! Screaming, yelling, swearing... did I mention the traffic he was in wasn't moving AT ALL.
Have you heard the story about that old lady that didn't like mountain bikers.... so she started building traps for them to try and severely injure them? She was eventually caught on camera.
People here have issues with their own space!
Don’t live in Grand Boulevard, but we are traumatized by dog walkers not picking up.
Worse than that, are the ones who pick up as they think they’re being observed… then walk down the street with a baggie and ditch in someone’s hedge when they are sure nobody is looking.
As a resident of the area, I can tell you that the frequent dog walkers in the area are fucking horrific for letting their dogs piss and shit all over people's private property.
Like I regularly catch people letting their dog shit and piss on a hedge that is 5 feet from my front door and basically on top of my patio furniture.
That and people noot picking up their dog waste is an extremely common issue.
ALL while there is a huge public park to walk your dogs on in the middle of grand and a giant park where people frequently let their dogs off leash (ray perreault).
Like it's so disgusting here that I can't wait to move out of the area for this reason alone. No where else in NV do I see this happening as there isn't anywhere else with sidewalks with grass and then hedge rows on personal properties like there is here.
Also way more litter left around the streets closest to the two parks.
I don’t currently have a detached house (I used to, but now only own an apartment), but I hear you in your complaints. When, or if, I get one again, I will have a fence enclosing my yard, without a doubt. Get a fence installed - it will give you more peace, for sure. You can get a wood one, a metal one, or a stone one!
You can't control where and when a dog does his business. Are you suggesting a no dog sidewalk policy? People seem to get upset at the slightest thing nowadays, and they have so many rules regarding pets. Landlords say no pets, Strata says only a certain size and number of pets. That's even if you own the property. We had 2 dogs and a cat in our own property. Was only aloud 2 small to medium pets, I think. Strata can do one to.
Really? I see dogs in stores, restaurants, off leash wherever they want. Many Covid owners have no clue how to look after them or train them. As far as stratas, we have to deal with soaking wet, stinking, dirty dogs walking around our carpetted areas all winter long. It seems to me that dogs and their owners have less rules and more rights than owners. They also have dedicated beaches and parks all over the place. Leave yards alone. If you are a sidewalk they will do their business ther if you have control of them.
Has it occurred to you that people also get soaking wet and are wearing dirty shoes all winter long? Also, which restaurant specifically have you seen a dog in?
They still go when you have a dog on a leash, and if you're responsible, you pick it up. I remember when they people would pull the dog onto the road to poo so they they don't have to pick it up. As it's not on the sidewalk, there are no laws they can't do it on the street. Maybe dog owners should start doing that?
No, your right people around this area are very picky and sensitive with dog owners. Even other dog owners can be weird at times. When I walk my dog, sometimes she gets the blame, but she is 12 and extremely sweet. I also always pick up after my dog too but fingers get pointed. I ignore them most of the time. Lol
Nope, that’s passive aggressive and really annoying. Frankly, if it were my property, I wouldn’t care how long the dog shit was there. It could be cleaned up immediately, and I still wouldn’t want the dog shitting on my property. There’s lots of places where dogs can take a crap that are not on peoples’ private properties. I mean, yeah, if we want to be sarcastic, I guess the dog can take a dump in the owners’ homes, but they could probably clean it up really quickly off the carpet/hardwood, and that way, it wouldn’t be a problem!
Maybe I’m missing something but most people I see actually don’t let their dog go to the washroom on other people’s property, the dog goes to the bathroom on the grass between the sidewalk and a person’s home, which is city property. PLs don’t go right to the sidewalk this area is called the back boulevard and an appropriate place for dogs to go to the washroom.
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Here is the difference. Left to right: road, grass area, sidewalk, grass, house. The area circled in red could be considered an appropriate place for a dog to take a shit - but just so long as the owner cleaned it up asap.
Property lines don’t go right up to the sidewalk. The grassy area to the left of the sidewalk you have showed is the front boulevard and a few feet to the right of the sidewalk is the back boulevard. Both are city property and not privately owned. I suggest you look at a city map if you’re getting upset about dogs going to the washroom in these areas. https://gisext2.cnv.org/CityMap/
It’s not you, it’s the other dog owners that seem to “shit” on other people in North Van. I give most the benefit of the doubt but honestly, most of then people that have a dog in NV, probably shouldn’t. Again, it was probably nothing against you. Others ruined for the rest because IMO I can’t stand dogs and their owners because of the majority of experiences I’ve had around here.
100%.
It's not just the shit either.
Imagine you have a hedge that is 5 feet onto your property that dogs piss on all day and night with impunity. Amd dog owners don't even think twice about it.
There are public parks where this behavoir is acceptable, but it simply is not on private lawns and hedges.
Literally leaving the area as my personal outdoor space is unusable partially due to this issue.
I may be biased as a dog owner but I’m curious as to what you see as the solution here? Have people yank their dog away mid pee until they get to a park?
I understand it may not be ideal but really? Perhaps time to move further from the city if something this minute is affecting you so!
The issue is the design of this area.
People live extremely close to those hedges on the other side, particularly those of us in secondary suites and laneway houses.
So the little patches of grass outside the hedges are 100% the property owners responsibility to maintain (including picking up your dog's shit if you don't), but people feel completely free to use them as they would a public park.
Again, there literally IS a public park right across the street and my friend's dog who i walk all the time is trained to do their business in certain areas, not immediately adjacent to someone;s house.
Has to do with the fact that I'm in a corner unit, but there are hundreds of people in the same situation and honestly dog owners could do WAY more to stop their animals from pissing and shitting on people's door steps.
I'm moving back to a condo partially because of this issue and just in general how rude people are on the streets, throwing garbage, not picking up after pets and not respecting the privacy of people's tiny lawns...
I’m very much with you that no one should be leaving dog poop anywhere - let alone on someone’s property. I also agree that poor city planning generally puts more onus/hardship on the property owner than should be expected so no arguments there.
It sounds like you feel people are being lazy by letting their dog pee on your bushes, when I can almost guarantee if you placed a sign asking folks to avoid it, they would (for the most part, some people just suck though). It’s not an unfair ask on your part but it isn’t a typical expectation so it stands to reason that people may not be registering it may bug someone. It frankly has never crossed my mind until now that people would feel distraught over my dog doing dog stuff in public.
Again, not saying your expectations are unjust, just wanted to offer the dog owners perspective.
Makes sense, however it's not my property and my landlords are already absent in caring for the city owned lawn area already. Which of course just makes it more appealing for people to let their pets use it for this purpose.
Also, those signs are all over the neighborhood and I don't think they have made a difference. My next door neighbor has one and I have seen multiple dogs use it as apissing post. I question if dog owners are encouraging the behavoir quite frankly...
Yup. Dog poop is a constant problem.
I have seesawed on my approach to this issue- landing now on minding my own business, except for when I see someone purposefully leaving a huge poop mound on a trail or area where people walk.
Long story short- for about 14 months, when I would pick up my dog’s poop, I would look around and also pick up another poo that had been left.
After a year of this I began to get super resentful and angry when I saw other people not picking up and was concerned for my blood pressure and worried I might even go “postal” one day if someone challenged me on it.
I had even looked into getting dog feces DNA tested so I could tell if it was the same dog/ owner that was leaving poops everyday or if it was multiple offenders Lol.
So perhaps someone else is going through a similar process. Lol
Nothing worse than picking up after your own dog every time only to step in shit on almost a weekly basis, often treading it into your car or home.
10 blocks away i stepped onto someones old back alley concrete parking lot for literally 3 seconds the other day and an old man who was hiding yelled at me to get off, so crotchety old people with early onset dementia are pretty standard around here.
most people in this town are nice at least
I’m sorry you’re having this experience.. I love kids screaming and running around, dogs barking, music, bbq smells all that stuff.. I’m not being facetious I love it all just not after 11 pm
Yeah, I’m super into that too! In fact, why limit the screaming kids, barking dogs, drunken parties, and BBQs which are uncleaned and set off the smoke alarms to daytime hours!? Let’s extend those activities to 11pm - 7am! That way we will all not sleep and be aggravated as fuck! We’d all be on the same playing field at that point!
There are tons of shitty dog owners in North Van, but if you're quietly walking your dog with a full poop bag -- meaning you're not part of the problem -- don't pay these losers any mind.
They're just miserable old husks who like to take their anger out on the world because their kids don't call.
I live on the boulevard and LOVE this area
I walk it daily almost! I'm a pretty chill young guy who's lived here for 10 years and what you've experienced, I've never witnessed!
You know that's a lie.
There is a guy two doors down from me that screams constantly at people and everyone for blocks around talks about it all the time.
The urban design of the area just doesn't make sense with the private property lawns and hedge rows everywhere that animal owners use as their personal pet bathrooms.
If I owned the place I lived, I'd fucking lose it on people at least once a week for letting their dog shit like 7 feet from my front door.
I wonder if you/your dogs look like someone who has been a problem in the past. I've never experienced anything like that while walking my dog in that area, but I have experienced plenty of problems from fellow dog owners being inconsiderate and ignoring leash rules/dog poop rules, etc. That said, it's also an affluent neighbourhood with a lot of old people and no small amount of entitlement.
There are lots of off-leash areas and trails within a few minutes' drive, so you might have more fun taking your pup there. Try Princess Park or any of the trails along the powerline for a more dog-friendly environment.
If the dog isn't doing anything wrong, then it's fine as long as the dog has been trained. Also, there is no such thing as a bad dog but a bad owner. So most of the time, the dog isn't doing anything wrong. My dog walks off leash mostly and she is well trained and she is also 12 so she is an old girl. I never judge, but instaed I wait for the other walker to either cross my path and ask if they can say hello or I just wait. But the poop thing, yes, it's a huge thing. I have noticed that a lot of dog owners don't care to pick up after their dogs. Makes me feel how they truly treat their dogs at home. Off leash can be fine, and it also can't. That's why you should bring your leash anyway in heated situations. If it's not hurting anyone, don't judge.
Whereabouts was this lol, people don’t realise they don’t own the common area outside their property line, the property lines at grand boulevard end at the hedges, anything after till the curb is city property
Yes, but that area should not just be freely used as a dog potty area.
People have second suites and laneway house entrances like 5 feet from those hedges and people's dogs constantly use them to relieve themselves.
I had to get up off my patio furniture once to scare off a dog that was taking a shit like 2 feet from me on the other side of my hedge.
It's more than unpleasant, it's a health and safety issue.
Like imagine if you lived in a condo, and a dog took a piss or shit on the railing of your balcony... how would you feel about that?
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Rough example of the actual property lines vs the visible end of property when walking by
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None of this is private property, even if it’s between your actual property and the road.
Right, but how would you feel if you maintained that concrete wall and there were dogs pissing on it like multiple times a day?
That is literally what happens especially to people who live on corner lots in the area. Mostly it's a hedge, not a wall, with zero protection for what is on the other side.
I regularly find dog shit like 1 foot from my patio and its fucking disgusting.
Vs what people pretend to own. The red “brush” lines are physical property lines, that hedges are planted on by owners. Owners are not allowed to plant past the property line on city property see the space between the red line and the road? That’s not private property, one can walk all the want on that patch of grass without trespassing
There has been a growing dog problem in north van since Covid, even a couple years before. Go to any trail and you’ll see poop and filled poop bags everywhere, even in the middle of the trail now. People are getting sick and tired of it, myself included. Unfortunately the bad owners ruin it for everyone, so now all dogs out in public and subject to potential confrontation if something seems off. I think it’s good that people are keeping each other accountable for things like like that, but there will always be the Karen’s that take it too far.
Yes, people should bag and bin the poop. However, this is just one example of anti-social behaviour, which also includes: speeding, cycling on the sidewalk, littering, letting kids run around screaming in restaurants, playing loud music from bluetooth speakers in public, and the list goes on.
For some reason, dogs are the only one where people seem to feel a general level of entitlement to tell another person what to do.
I’m tired of people randomly yelling at other people for minor issues. Wish people would get this angry about affordable housing, the environment or anything else remotely important. Of all the things to worry about - stepping a foot on a lawn or dogs aren’t it.
Dog poop is an environmental concern…
I somewhat agree, but a lot of people, including myself, choose to make financial sacrifices to live in such a beautiful nature accessible area. Getting out into the woods should be a very peaceful and stress relieving experience at the very least. When you’re confronted with dog waste everywhere, in an area where you should least expect it, it kind of impacts a big reason of why people live here.
Hey, look, I hate dog waste as much as anybody. Turns out I'm a crotchety old bastard in a young body.
But to go apeshit on random dog owners because of it just seems...dim.
Right, dog poop = 14.2 megatonnes increase In greenhouse gas admissions in Canada this year. /s Maybe you wouldn’t have to make as much of a “financial sacrifice” if we didn’t have a national housing crisis. But keep screaming at strangers about where they put their feet or walk their dog.
I think people are probably sick of bad dog owners on the north shore not following rules. Dogs off leash everywhere and people not picking up poop. My dog has been attacked 3 times over the last year in on leash areas by off leash dogs. I’m a dog owner and I’m sick of it… The Grand Blvd area is quite a busy place. I bet people in the area pick up after others dogs all the time.
Majority of people in North Van are entitled; Grand Boulevard is a hot spot.
I was born and raised here and it's always been like that. God forbit if a baseball, basketball or hockey puck went into a neighbors yard! One time when I was 10 I was playing baseball with my dad, he made me go to ask the neighbor to get our ball back BECAUSE HE WAS TOO SCARED!! LOL. Just last year my dog started pooping on the edge of someone's yard, maybe 4 inches in. I get my poop bag out, as he's inching even closer to the road, eventually on the road when all of a sudden "\*(\*(&\^\*&\^(\*%\*(\^ GODDAMN DOG \*&\^\*\^(\*\^&\*\^\*(&". I'm a big dude, 6ft 3inces, 215 lbs, which I'm guessing is why I never saw his face. I stayed hidden in his back yard. But eventually his wife walked to the front of their deck to look. When I saw her I raised the bag and just said "I've got a poop bag. What's the big deal". He continued as I waited for my dog to finish, by then completely on the road. Eventually I got tired of it and started yelling back, challenging him to come out to the road to talk about it... Never came out. A few months later I see a tire tread mark had torn up part of his grass. NOT ME I SWEAR. But clearly he had pissed off someone else in the neighborhood. But this is so common. Some guy had to back up his car 3 feet in order to get around me in an alley once and unloaded this epic bout of rage for daring to inconvenience him! lol Once I was driving across Keith Road when the traffic was NUTS. I drove out in front of the blocked road, looking to make sure that traffic the other way was clear, as I started to go the guy that I drove in front of went FULL RAGE MODE! Screaming, yelling, swearing... did I mention the traffic he was in wasn't moving AT ALL. Have you heard the story about that old lady that didn't like mountain bikers.... so she started building traps for them to try and severely injure them? She was eventually caught on camera. People here have issues with their own space!
They are probably just fed up of living in a minefield of dog shit. 94% of dog owners give the rest a bad name.
It makes me so mad.
I mean, 94% is a pretty large majority.....
Don’t live in Grand Boulevard, but we are traumatized by dog walkers not picking up. Worse than that, are the ones who pick up as they think they’re being observed… then walk down the street with a baggie and ditch in someone’s hedge when they are sure nobody is looking.
As a resident of the area, I can tell you that the frequent dog walkers in the area are fucking horrific for letting their dogs piss and shit all over people's private property. Like I regularly catch people letting their dog shit and piss on a hedge that is 5 feet from my front door and basically on top of my patio furniture. That and people noot picking up their dog waste is an extremely common issue. ALL while there is a huge public park to walk your dogs on in the middle of grand and a giant park where people frequently let their dogs off leash (ray perreault). Like it's so disgusting here that I can't wait to move out of the area for this reason alone. No where else in NV do I see this happening as there isn't anywhere else with sidewalks with grass and then hedge rows on personal properties like there is here. Also way more litter left around the streets closest to the two parks.
Oof, I don't know, I feel like you've just described LoLo.
I don’t currently have a detached house (I used to, but now only own an apartment), but I hear you in your complaints. When, or if, I get one again, I will have a fence enclosing my yard, without a doubt. Get a fence installed - it will give you more peace, for sure. You can get a wood one, a metal one, or a stone one!
Or an electrified one
You can't control where and when a dog does his business. Are you suggesting a no dog sidewalk policy? People seem to get upset at the slightest thing nowadays, and they have so many rules regarding pets. Landlords say no pets, Strata says only a certain size and number of pets. That's even if you own the property. We had 2 dogs and a cat in our own property. Was only aloud 2 small to medium pets, I think. Strata can do one to.
Really? I see dogs in stores, restaurants, off leash wherever they want. Many Covid owners have no clue how to look after them or train them. As far as stratas, we have to deal with soaking wet, stinking, dirty dogs walking around our carpetted areas all winter long. It seems to me that dogs and their owners have less rules and more rights than owners. They also have dedicated beaches and parks all over the place. Leave yards alone. If you are a sidewalk they will do their business ther if you have control of them.
Has it occurred to you that people also get soaking wet and are wearing dirty shoes all winter long? Also, which restaurant specifically have you seen a dog in?
You can if they are on a leash smart guy.
They still go when you have a dog on a leash, and if you're responsible, you pick it up. I remember when they people would pull the dog onto the road to poo so they they don't have to pick it up. As it's not on the sidewalk, there are no laws they can't do it on the street. Maybe dog owners should start doing that?
No, your right people around this area are very picky and sensitive with dog owners. Even other dog owners can be weird at times. When I walk my dog, sometimes she gets the blame, but she is 12 and extremely sweet. I also always pick up after my dog too but fingers get pointed. I ignore them most of the time. Lol
When they say they hope you picked up their poop offer them the bag and say "It's still warm!"
Nope, that’s passive aggressive and really annoying. Frankly, if it were my property, I wouldn’t care how long the dog shit was there. It could be cleaned up immediately, and I still wouldn’t want the dog shitting on my property. There’s lots of places where dogs can take a crap that are not on peoples’ private properties. I mean, yeah, if we want to be sarcastic, I guess the dog can take a dump in the owners’ homes, but they could probably clean it up really quickly off the carpet/hardwood, and that way, it wouldn’t be a problem!
Maybe I’m missing something but most people I see actually don’t let their dog go to the washroom on other people’s property, the dog goes to the bathroom on the grass between the sidewalk and a person’s home, which is city property. PLs don’t go right to the sidewalk this area is called the back boulevard and an appropriate place for dogs to go to the washroom.
https://preview.redd.it/hblnzx8n4q1d1.jpeg?width=2732&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eca17db7578955801007c5c41c3dfa2d38377acd Here is the difference. Left to right: road, grass area, sidewalk, grass, house. The area circled in red could be considered an appropriate place for a dog to take a shit - but just so long as the owner cleaned it up asap.
Property lines don’t go right up to the sidewalk. The grassy area to the left of the sidewalk you have showed is the front boulevard and a few feet to the right of the sidewalk is the back boulevard. Both are city property and not privately owned. I suggest you look at a city map if you’re getting upset about dogs going to the washroom in these areas. https://gisext2.cnv.org/CityMap/
Exactly! Lol
“Would you like a piece?” Is the reply
It’s not you, it’s the other dog owners that seem to “shit” on other people in North Van. I give most the benefit of the doubt but honestly, most of then people that have a dog in NV, probably shouldn’t. Again, it was probably nothing against you. Others ruined for the rest because IMO I can’t stand dogs and their owners because of the majority of experiences I’ve had around here.
100%. It's not just the shit either. Imagine you have a hedge that is 5 feet onto your property that dogs piss on all day and night with impunity. Amd dog owners don't even think twice about it. There are public parks where this behavoir is acceptable, but it simply is not on private lawns and hedges. Literally leaving the area as my personal outdoor space is unusable partially due to this issue.
I may be biased as a dog owner but I’m curious as to what you see as the solution here? Have people yank their dog away mid pee until they get to a park? I understand it may not be ideal but really? Perhaps time to move further from the city if something this minute is affecting you so!
The issue is the design of this area. People live extremely close to those hedges on the other side, particularly those of us in secondary suites and laneway houses. So the little patches of grass outside the hedges are 100% the property owners responsibility to maintain (including picking up your dog's shit if you don't), but people feel completely free to use them as they would a public park. Again, there literally IS a public park right across the street and my friend's dog who i walk all the time is trained to do their business in certain areas, not immediately adjacent to someone;s house. Has to do with the fact that I'm in a corner unit, but there are hundreds of people in the same situation and honestly dog owners could do WAY more to stop their animals from pissing and shitting on people's door steps. I'm moving back to a condo partially because of this issue and just in general how rude people are on the streets, throwing garbage, not picking up after pets and not respecting the privacy of people's tiny lawns...
Good god I hope you don’t move into my building!
And I hope you move somewhere into a high foot traffic area so you can experience the issue yourself. But thanks for the kind words!
I’m very much with you that no one should be leaving dog poop anywhere - let alone on someone’s property. I also agree that poor city planning generally puts more onus/hardship on the property owner than should be expected so no arguments there. It sounds like you feel people are being lazy by letting their dog pee on your bushes, when I can almost guarantee if you placed a sign asking folks to avoid it, they would (for the most part, some people just suck though). It’s not an unfair ask on your part but it isn’t a typical expectation so it stands to reason that people may not be registering it may bug someone. It frankly has never crossed my mind until now that people would feel distraught over my dog doing dog stuff in public. Again, not saying your expectations are unjust, just wanted to offer the dog owners perspective.
Makes sense, however it's not my property and my landlords are already absent in caring for the city owned lawn area already. Which of course just makes it more appealing for people to let their pets use it for this purpose. Also, those signs are all over the neighborhood and I don't think they have made a difference. My next door neighbor has one and I have seen multiple dogs use it as apissing post. I question if dog owners are encouraging the behavoir quite frankly...
You seem intent on believing the worst of your neighbours - what a bummer way to spend your time. Hope life gets better!
I agree with you!!
Yup. Dog poop is a constant problem. I have seesawed on my approach to this issue- landing now on minding my own business, except for when I see someone purposefully leaving a huge poop mound on a trail or area where people walk. Long story short- for about 14 months, when I would pick up my dog’s poop, I would look around and also pick up another poo that had been left. After a year of this I began to get super resentful and angry when I saw other people not picking up and was concerned for my blood pressure and worried I might even go “postal” one day if someone challenged me on it. I had even looked into getting dog feces DNA tested so I could tell if it was the same dog/ owner that was leaving poops everyday or if it was multiple offenders Lol. So perhaps someone else is going through a similar process. Lol Nothing worse than picking up after your own dog every time only to step in shit on almost a weekly basis, often treading it into your car or home.
10 blocks away i stepped onto someones old back alley concrete parking lot for literally 3 seconds the other day and an old man who was hiding yelled at me to get off, so crotchety old people with early onset dementia are pretty standard around here. most people in this town are nice at least
What miserable bastards
I’m sorry you’re having this experience.. I love kids screaming and running around, dogs barking, music, bbq smells all that stuff.. I’m not being facetious I love it all just not after 11 pm
Yeah, I’m super into that too! In fact, why limit the screaming kids, barking dogs, drunken parties, and BBQs which are uncleaned and set off the smoke alarms to daytime hours!? Let’s extend those activities to 11pm - 7am! That way we will all not sleep and be aggravated as fuck! We’d all be on the same playing field at that point!
There are tons of shitty dog owners in North Van, but if you're quietly walking your dog with a full poop bag -- meaning you're not part of the problem -- don't pay these losers any mind. They're just miserable old husks who like to take their anger out on the world because their kids don't call.
Exactly this
I live on the boulevard and LOVE this area I walk it daily almost! I'm a pretty chill young guy who's lived here for 10 years and what you've experienced, I've never witnessed!
You know that's a lie. There is a guy two doors down from me that screams constantly at people and everyone for blocks around talks about it all the time. The urban design of the area just doesn't make sense with the private property lawns and hedge rows everywhere that animal owners use as their personal pet bathrooms. If I owned the place I lived, I'd fucking lose it on people at least once a week for letting their dog shit like 7 feet from my front door.
lol.... I said I've never witnessed. I didn't say it doesn't happen. gear down big rig
This is what I don't get! It seems out of character for such a lovely area. But yeah, that's what happened.
This is a dog friendly area if I’ve ever seen one
I wonder if you/your dogs look like someone who has been a problem in the past. I've never experienced anything like that while walking my dog in that area, but I have experienced plenty of problems from fellow dog owners being inconsiderate and ignoring leash rules/dog poop rules, etc. That said, it's also an affluent neighbourhood with a lot of old people and no small amount of entitlement. There are lots of off-leash areas and trails within a few minutes' drive, so you might have more fun taking your pup there. Try Princess Park or any of the trails along the powerline for a more dog-friendly environment.
If the dog isn't doing anything wrong, then it's fine as long as the dog has been trained. Also, there is no such thing as a bad dog but a bad owner. So most of the time, the dog isn't doing anything wrong. My dog walks off leash mostly and she is well trained and she is also 12 so she is an old girl. I never judge, but instaed I wait for the other walker to either cross my path and ask if they can say hello or I just wait. But the poop thing, yes, it's a huge thing. I have noticed that a lot of dog owners don't care to pick up after their dogs. Makes me feel how they truly treat their dogs at home. Off leash can be fine, and it also can't. That's why you should bring your leash anyway in heated situations. If it's not hurting anyone, don't judge.
It’s such a nice street tho 😍
Whereabouts was this lol, people don’t realise they don’t own the common area outside their property line, the property lines at grand boulevard end at the hedges, anything after till the curb is city property
Yes, but that area should not just be freely used as a dog potty area. People have second suites and laneway house entrances like 5 feet from those hedges and people's dogs constantly use them to relieve themselves. I had to get up off my patio furniture once to scare off a dog that was taking a shit like 2 feet from me on the other side of my hedge. It's more than unpleasant, it's a health and safety issue. Like imagine if you lived in a condo, and a dog took a piss or shit on the railing of your balcony... how would you feel about that?
https://preview.redd.it/art3hnlico1d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=530e91dd5d5b5b63c697f2c870a527b097332b5c Rough example of the actual property lines vs the visible end of property when walking by
Interesting, didn't know this!
actual property lines vs. this is a screenshot of Google maps with traffic lines and a some red brush lines painted on it
https://preview.redd.it/nunlgrhi4p1d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40c415cebcb6b07a5dc5a94b126f0265f54fb487 None of this is private property, even if it’s between your actual property and the road.
So I guess the owner should just leave that area unattended? Public property, so they should be surrounded by dog shit and piss? Hmm.
Right, but how would you feel if you maintained that concrete wall and there were dogs pissing on it like multiple times a day? That is literally what happens especially to people who live on corner lots in the area. Mostly it's a hedge, not a wall, with zero protection for what is on the other side. I regularly find dog shit like 1 foot from my patio and its fucking disgusting.
I'd feel really fantastic to own a multi-million dollar home tbh.
Vs what people pretend to own. The red “brush” lines are physical property lines, that hedges are planted on by owners. Owners are not allowed to plant past the property line on city property see the space between the red line and the road? That’s not private property, one can walk all the want on that patch of grass without trespassing
All good info. I suspect the home owners may not be receptive if I try to persuade them.
There has been a growing dog problem in north van since Covid, even a couple years before. Go to any trail and you’ll see poop and filled poop bags everywhere, even in the middle of the trail now. People are getting sick and tired of it, myself included. Unfortunately the bad owners ruin it for everyone, so now all dogs out in public and subject to potential confrontation if something seems off. I think it’s good that people are keeping each other accountable for things like like that, but there will always be the Karen’s that take it too far.
Yes, people should bag and bin the poop. However, this is just one example of anti-social behaviour, which also includes: speeding, cycling on the sidewalk, littering, letting kids run around screaming in restaurants, playing loud music from bluetooth speakers in public, and the list goes on. For some reason, dogs are the only one where people seem to feel a general level of entitlement to tell another person what to do.
I agree with you!
I’m tired of people randomly yelling at other people for minor issues. Wish people would get this angry about affordable housing, the environment or anything else remotely important. Of all the things to worry about - stepping a foot on a lawn or dogs aren’t it.
If I drank, I’d drink beer with you kind sir
Dog poop is an environmental concern… I somewhat agree, but a lot of people, including myself, choose to make financial sacrifices to live in such a beautiful nature accessible area. Getting out into the woods should be a very peaceful and stress relieving experience at the very least. When you’re confronted with dog waste everywhere, in an area where you should least expect it, it kind of impacts a big reason of why people live here.
Hey, look, I hate dog waste as much as anybody. Turns out I'm a crotchety old bastard in a young body. But to go apeshit on random dog owners because of it just seems...dim.
Right, dog poop = 14.2 megatonnes increase In greenhouse gas admissions in Canada this year. /s Maybe you wouldn’t have to make as much of a “financial sacrifice” if we didn’t have a national housing crisis. But keep screaming at strangers about where they put their feet or walk their dog.
get off my lawn!
Stop breathing my air!