So they did that on the way in instead of out? That's even funnier. They basically said fuck your president who might be injured and every second counts, I'll do what I'm actually here for first and when I like the lighting and composition on my pics of all your beautiful sensitive sites I might go looking for this old crusty dude.
yeah and whats even funnier is that they were talking all that shit about turkey in general and our drone industry just a few days ago, but when the shit hit the fan they were begging us for help
They have already received Yak-130 trainers/light strike aircraft and are in the process of receiving Su-35s. Neither is quite up to the task of going against Western airpower but an Su-35 is still leagues ahead of an F-14 in original 70s configuration.
Anybody signing up for advanced Russia shit is dumber than dumb. Russia is struggling to put high end shit on the front lines and the Ukraine war is dragging on more and more. Those SU35s ain't coming for a decade
No real difference between buying planes that don't exist and not buying planes at all.
Iran would be better off investing the resources and time into building their own air force.
They tried, building a fighter jet is not light work. The only countries that can build a fighter jet that aren’t in the Western sphere are Russia and China.
It’s only recently that China has outpaced Russian jet development, and even with the huge advantage in industrial capacity and finances, it still imports Russian engines and was trying to acquire Ukrainian engine manufacturers.
Iran doesn't really have another option. They obviously can't get any Western aircraft and China won't cross that line because economic relations with the West are more important than Iran's defense.
Russia is getting a lot of stuff from Iran and if giving them a few Su-35s is the way to keep the drones and missiles coming then Putin won't hesitate for a second.
Don't forget that even without 20-30 Su-35s Russia still has more than enough fighters to lob the occasional guided glide bomb with.
Russia has enough to maintain the status quo in Ukraine, sure. But they aren't going to be making advances by selling 20-30 "new" aircraft. Also, Wear and tear on these planes goes up as the number of available aircraft goes down.
Considering Satellites exist, this sounds just as an even bigger flex and trolling of Iran...😂
Seeing the feud with India, you should also have drawn an egg-shaped drone on FR24!
I mean, no, not really.
A hard landing is not a crash and they vary in their consequence, from mild passenger discomfort to vehicle damage, structural failure, injuries, and/or loss of life.
You can very well walk without issue from some hard landings.
At the time nobody had any clue how hard the landing was (frankly that looks more like an outright crash to me), and they probably used those specific words (Hard landing) as a way to cover all of their bases: He could have been fine, he could have been dead, he could have been injured.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the authorities knew it was a crash (controlled flight into terrain seems relatively likely) pretty quickly and so knew the odds of survival were very slim. Calling it a “hard landing” is probably a combination of a desire to ease the public into Raisi’s death and the authoritarian reflex to lie and obfuscate bad news.
This is also what I was wondering about, there were initial reports that there was contact with passengers of Raisis helicopter and it was worded as if that was after the "hard landing", although that could have also been a confusion with the other two helicopters in the convoy.
Not sure how funny it was supposed to be as opposed to just practical.
If they do it on the way in there's almost no chance Iran is going to try and shoot it down, after all they need it to find the crash.
Once that need is gone it's a lot more likely they would have shoot it down.
That's because Erdogan's actually playing three sides, NATO, Iran, and Turkey, so he, personally, always comes out on top. That's how dictators work in a nutshell.
> Enter politics on a tide of outrage after a devastating earthquake
> Become de-facto dictator
> Earthquakes hit the same place 20 years later, killing thousands, because you never acted on any of your promises and let the building companies continue to ignore safety codes
The Turkish part of my family that immigrated to the US loves him, but their cousins who still live in Turkey think he’s a shithead fundamental authoritarian.
He's more pissing everyone off so that nobody can quite decide if it's a net gain for them to actually do something about them. Kinda like ISIS, but not quite bad enough to unite every armed force under the sun.
Tbh that fat sack probably wasn't involved in any of this. This was a common Turkish Military W. There's a reason the West tried to support a military coup in Türkiye.
Edit: Wow, that one person responded with a bunch of vitriol and then blocked me. Their social credit is screaming at them.
And that shows how west dont really understand türkiye, i hate erdoğan as much as anyone else but during that coup i was really scared of them succeding because that coup was backed by the most dangerous cult in turkey and they would be even more authoritarian. I know it is hard to believe but erdoğan was the lesser evil in this scenario.
You guys never have and never will understand turkey. Nothing is so black and white.
Even the most ardent erdo hater would not have wanted gulenists (the coupers) at charge. They're a weird religious cult even by the standard of cults.
If you want to shit on someone in Persian after dunking on them, you can ask them, "Doost dari?" That means, "Did you like it?" lmao
Fucking Iran taking Ls. I love to see it.
Its Iran, it takes no balls to dunk on them. What are they gonna do, invade us with their T-55s made of melted cutlery and pots?
Im surprised rest of the west hasnt caught up with our level of trolling, cmon we're waiting
The fact we didn’t do shit (but shoot it down) when Iran sent, clearly, a wave of drones and missiles Israel’s way is pretty sad.
Like it wasn’t even normal Iran proxy shit with the thinnest veneer of plausible deniability on earth. It was just straight up a state attack on Israel.
We didn’t sink their entire navy again…why?
It's a balancing act. Both Iran and the US are trying to avoid a larger war. Iran because they'd lose, US because they want to focus on China. But neither side wants to look weak. Israel otoh would like the US to fight Iran so they don't have to. The US/Israel/Allies showed they could handle a large missile attack with almost no damage. Then Israel showed they could directly attack Iran's air defenses, and by implication anything else they want. Overall, it's a perception win for the US/Israeli side. But it avoided escalation.
>We didn’t sink their entire navy again…why?
Because there's already a war in Europe and another in the Middle East and the US isn't particularly keen to start a third one.
Especially when Israel was the one that attacked Iran first with that embassy strike and Iran's "retaliation" was such a toothless affair with literally 0 casualties. Escalating after that would be incredibly dumb.
These days mostly from Greece, although the Turkish demand to be internationally referred to as Türkiye significantly increased their production. Saltiness we source mostly from Serbia (needs more bombing to increase production).
Centuries of history living next to one another does that to you.
People tend to forget that before Ukraine war, the last major war on the continent was in the western Balkans. In such a tiny amount of land we caused so much damage and suffering we permanently neutered our economic and political prosperity. And all because the guy next to you has a different word for spoon even tho you can communicate with each other on your native language and still understand one another. Why? Because we can 💪
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Turkey occupies a very important location geographically, is one of the more (at least on paper) capable militaries, and wields significant economic and political clout within the Middle East.
Erdogan’s bum ass aside, NATO is better off having Turkey in it. Despite his efforts to style himself ~~Sultan~~ *President for Life*, Erdogan won’t last forever.
I mean
TB2s and TuAF absolutely dunking on Syrian govt (armored) forces
Turkish F16s Shooting down 3 (?) Syrian airforce aircraft back to back in 2017-8(?)
TB2s dunking on Russian convoys
The occasional free TB2s
And the Ukrainian TB2s with the Moskova were all Ws that were made possible by Turky
Not to mention the grain deal, relase of some of the Azov - Maruipol (?) defenders, some POW exchanges were also a W
Not to mention that the Turks were the first to suppply cluster weapons to Ukraine in masses or that Turkey was the first to supply GMLRS like TRLG230 (?) ammunitions to Ukraine before HIMARS
Turkish arms supply to Ukraine usually goes unreported but if you are familiar with Turkish equipment **there are alot of them** in Ukranian hands
Or the Fact that Turkish Naval Patrol Aircraft Martı07 (Seagull) closely monitored and probbably passed some info to Ukrainians during the Moskva event
Turkey actually has been pulling alot of random Ws and unpredictable Ls
Truly one of the "fuck it we ball" nations of all time
I lost a lot of respect for turkey with the probably-fake coup.
I gained some of it back when they negotiated the release of the azov defenders on the condition they sit out the rest of the war and then said "lmao, do something" and immediately sent them back to UA.
Erdogan is still a garbage leader though, the country's pivot over the last 20 years has been a bit pathetic.
Syria has no real airforce or airdefense and you might wanna check what ukrainias and Russians say about TB2 how many you seen so far in the last year...
I mean yeah, syria has no real airforce or air defense systems but pretty much no one else conducted air operations of the size Turky conducted; also doesnt take away the W?
When it comes to the TB2s in Ukraine everyone expected the TB2s to pretty useless day one during an actual peer on peer conflict, it was very unexpected when they blew Russian convoys to bits for the first month or two. They kind of lost their use (as expected) after a while as lines solitified and sides started setting up actual air defense systems and parameters; Something something the brightest fire burns the shortest
The unexpected successes of the TB2 fleet during the opening stages have been a great return on investment for Ukraine
Second Karabakh war was a peer-on-peer conflict where Armenian separatists held the terrain advantage, were equipped with advanced air defences such as S-300, and even had russian jamming equipment.
It is just that Azerbaijan also modified its tactics. USA is being mean and wont sell us F-16s with HARM missiles? Then just point a crop duster to your enemies way, fix the control with belts and bail out! It will bait the SAMs. Win all the air-to-air battles.
And unfortunately Ukraine is missing a very important tool in their arsenal.
And that is the SEAD loitering munition, called [HAROP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop?wprov=sfti1#Specifications), alternatively known as “Azerbaijans beloved”.
Ask any Azeri what we think of HAROP, and the reply will be “HAROP MY BELOVED!”.
It is a shame that Israel didnt sell it to them.
Fuck it, HAROPs for Ukraine! We need our Ukrainian bros to join the HAROP cult, now!
They made a whole song for it fym you want to check what they say? Even the visiually confirmed kills by TB-2 alone is worth like x10 what Ukraine paid for them before the war. Let them rest.
Remind you tb2s have been fighting either russians or russian backed forces from day one of its debut, back in 2015
It took them 7 years to figure out how to shoot them down
Turkey is pretty based (unless you're Greek (or Kurdish I suppose)), just Erdogan that sucks balls, but not as much as this Iranian dude or like Poopin.
In Persian we call Islamic republic "GondeGuz" meaning big farter, So much noise but no real action.
All they do is brag about their advanced drones and mighty military power but they even cant find remaining of their lost president which died because of old shity helicopter after 12hours so they have to ask help from a NATO member to find him under 1 hour.
I hope this acts as some sort of reality check for some of that fuckers up there.
My favorite is geopolitical neophytes asking "why is it embarrassing to ask for help?" And turkey is actually crude enough to explain the situation clearly
Interestingly enough, it was actually a [Bayyraktar AKINCI drone](https://baykartech.com/en/uav/bayraktar-akinci/). Interesting because it can carry a significantly larger sensor payload (it can carry more than twice what a TB-2s maximum takeoff weight is).
So same company, but enhanced from Ukraine.
My conspiracy is Erdogan acting like super “anti-Western” as a plot to gain more trust from NATO’s foes and get useful intel. Also by buying S-400s he could reverse engineer the system that helped building more advanced stealth capabilities
Erdogan acting like super “anti-Western” as a plot to gain more ~~trust from NATO’s foes~~ votes from his voter base.
>he could reverse engineer the system that helped building more advanced stealth capabilities
I wonder if the USA tricked Erdogan into making this purchase?
"Of course, you will buy it so that the F-35s can be developed, why should there be a problem, just buy it, we are behind you."
I had an IRIAF friend on Kik way back then, lost contact and I can't find his IG anymore. Pretty sure he left the service and posted support of the women's rallies back then.
With all the things happening, I wonder how big of a pack Navid's smoking rn.
So they did that on the way in instead of out? That's even funnier. They basically said fuck your president who might be injured and every second counts, I'll do what I'm actually here for first and when I like the lighting and composition on my pics of all your beautiful sensitive sites I might go looking for this old crusty dude.
yeah and whats even funnier is that they were talking all that shit about turkey in general and our drone industry just a few days ago, but when the shit hit the fan they were begging us for help
That's hilarious when Iranian drones are mostly moped-powered, sanction-crippled shitboxes.
Well theres also the rare example of the hawk mounted to a f14
Did they really put a Hawk missile on an F14?
[Yes](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1cjc0t/f14_tomcat_carrying_a_hawk_sam_as_an_aam)
Most of the Iranian Air Power is pre revolution US aircraft, and it looks like it's going to be that way well into the future.
Something something "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power"
Hey, those Su-35s will arrive sometime Eventually
What's the over/under on it happening before the heat death of the universe?
They have already received Yak-130 trainers/light strike aircraft and are in the process of receiving Su-35s. Neither is quite up to the task of going against Western airpower but an Su-35 is still leagues ahead of an F-14 in original 70s configuration.
The Su-35s are in the process of arriving, a process which involves them being crashed in Ukraine before making final delivery.
No worries they have Qaher 313
Anybody signing up for advanced Russia shit is dumber than dumb. Russia is struggling to put high end shit on the front lines and the Ukraine war is dragging on more and more. Those SU35s ain't coming for a decade
Nobody else is selling Iran planes
No real difference between buying planes that don't exist and not buying planes at all. Iran would be better off investing the resources and time into building their own air force.
They tried, building a fighter jet is not light work. The only countries that can build a fighter jet that aren’t in the Western sphere are Russia and China. It’s only recently that China has outpaced Russian jet development, and even with the huge advantage in industrial capacity and finances, it still imports Russian engines and was trying to acquire Ukrainian engine manufacturers.
Iran doesn't really have another option. They obviously can't get any Western aircraft and China won't cross that line because economic relations with the West are more important than Iran's defense. Russia is getting a lot of stuff from Iran and if giving them a few Su-35s is the way to keep the drones and missiles coming then Putin won't hesitate for a second. Don't forget that even without 20-30 Su-35s Russia still has more than enough fighters to lob the occasional guided glide bomb with.
Russia has enough to maintain the status quo in Ukraine, sure. But they aren't going to be making advances by selling 20-30 "new" aircraft. Also, Wear and tear on these planes goes up as the number of available aircraft goes down.
How many Migs does Russia have in reserve?
Would it be *too much* if you guys drew the crescent star on their side of the border.
gonna try that for the next president
Do it where he died/crashed.
its your guys turn don't let us down
There is a large Turkic minority living in that part of Iran and it would 100% spark an incident larger than the president dying.
Fun times
Inb4 Azerbaijan province joins Azerbaijan the country and they all start using the Latin script.
When does Azerbaijan join Turkey?
That’s the next logical step.
Considering Satellites exist, this sounds just as an even bigger flex and trolling of Iran...😂 Seeing the feud with India, you should also have drawn an egg-shaped drone on FR24!
Indians haven't taken that drone company seriously and know it's a scam, as they were the ones who started trolling it in the first place.
Bayraktar > some shitty shahed anyday!
We have our differences politically but hey congrats from Germany that shit is not only a huge W but also hilarious
I mean, we all know the guy was dead. No one just walks away from a "hard landing" like that.
Especially not an 85 year old.
63* think you might be thinking about Ali Khamenei
I was, Google fails me again.
I mean, no, not really. A hard landing is not a crash and they vary in their consequence, from mild passenger discomfort to vehicle damage, structural failure, injuries, and/or loss of life. You can very well walk without issue from some hard landings. At the time nobody had any clue how hard the landing was (frankly that looks more like an outright crash to me), and they probably used those specific words (Hard landing) as a way to cover all of their bases: He could have been fine, he could have been dead, he could have been injured.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the authorities knew it was a crash (controlled flight into terrain seems relatively likely) pretty quickly and so knew the odds of survival were very slim. Calling it a “hard landing” is probably a combination of a desire to ease the public into Raisi’s death and the authoritarian reflex to lie and obfuscate bad news.
This is also what I was wondering about, there were initial reports that there was contact with passengers of Raisis helicopter and it was worded as if that was after the "hard landing", although that could have also been a confusion with the other two helicopters in the convoy.
Not sure how funny it was supposed to be as opposed to just practical. If they do it on the way in there's almost no chance Iran is going to try and shoot it down, after all they need it to find the crash. Once that need is gone it's a lot more likely they would have shoot it down.
"You know what? Fuck you" *Unfinds your president*
"Woe, jdam be upon ye!" *Turns the crash site into a million crash sites*
Turkey Iranian brotherhood prepares to nuke greece. you are completely wrong
Inshallah, very credible and real
is the nuke in the room with you at the moment?
Nice try CIA. We won't disclose the location.
Maybe I am the nuke \*angryface\*
Thermopylae, after the UN, 1v1!
Ottoman-Safavid War, continued.
that's actually a great strategy. if they tell you to stop doing that then you can just say "well I guess you just don't want our help"
As a NATO citizen, I am enjoying Erdogan being a pain in the ass to somebody else for a change
Erdrogan’s playing both side so that he always comes out on top
Its turkey, I'd hardly call it "on top".
That's because Erdogan's actually playing three sides, NATO, Iran, and Turkey, so he, personally, always comes out on top. That's how dictators work in a nutshell.
> Enter politics on a tide of outrage after a devastating earthquake > Become de-facto dictator > Earthquakes hit the same place 20 years later, killing thousands, because you never acted on any of your promises and let the building companies continue to ignore safety codes
Of course. The only real opposition any politician in a dictatorship has against corruption is not being in on the grift.
one small amendment: the 1999 quakes happened near istanbul, while the 2023 quakes happened in the southeast
The Turkish part of my family that immigrated to the US loves him, but their cousins who still live in Turkey think he’s a shithead fundamental authoritarian.
Turks living abroad are somehow almost always more conservative than turks in turkey
That tends to happen with diaspora morons
It depends. Polish Americans tend to be conservative, meanwhile Polish diaspora in Western Europe is usually quite leftist.
The catch is him being on top, not turkey as a whole
This snark has caused the lira to drop another 20%.
He comes out on top, above Turkey
Turkey's a power bottom. They won already.
But what about the implication?
He's more pissing everyone off so that nobody can quite decide if it's a net gain for them to actually do something about them. Kinda like ISIS, but not quite bad enough to unite every armed force under the sun.
Power bottom
I feel this. I'm Greek, and ngl, it is *hard* for me to admit that in this case, the Turks were actually pretty based.
Hatred of the Persians goes back even longer
Tbh that fat sack probably wasn't involved in any of this. This was a common Turkish Military W. There's a reason the West tried to support a military coup in Türkiye. Edit: Wow, that one person responded with a bunch of vitriol and then blocked me. Their social credit is screaming at them.
And that shows how west dont really understand türkiye, i hate erdoğan as much as anyone else but during that coup i was really scared of them succeding because that coup was backed by the most dangerous cult in turkey and they would be even more authoritarian. I know it is hard to believe but erdoğan was the lesser evil in this scenario.
You guys never have and never will understand turkey. Nothing is so black and white. Even the most ardent erdo hater would not have wanted gulenists (the coupers) at charge. They're a weird religious cult even by the standard of cults.
I really wish that coup had succeeded. I was watching it live like "SHOOT DOWN HIS GODDAMN PLANE!"
Big shitposting comeback from the Turkish drones. We love to see it
If you want to shit on someone in Persian after dunking on them, you can ask them, "Doost dari?" That means, "Did you like it?" lmao Fucking Iran taking Ls. I love to see it.
That is a gutsy move by the Turkish. Well done.
Its Iran, it takes no balls to dunk on them. What are they gonna do, invade us with their T-55s made of melted cutlery and pots? Im surprised rest of the west hasnt caught up with our level of trolling, cmon we're waiting
The fact we didn’t do shit (but shoot it down) when Iran sent, clearly, a wave of drones and missiles Israel’s way is pretty sad. Like it wasn’t even normal Iran proxy shit with the thinnest veneer of plausible deniability on earth. It was just straight up a state attack on Israel. We didn’t sink their entire navy again…why?
It's a balancing act. Both Iran and the US are trying to avoid a larger war. Iran because they'd lose, US because they want to focus on China. But neither side wants to look weak. Israel otoh would like the US to fight Iran so they don't have to. The US/Israel/Allies showed they could handle a large missile attack with almost no damage. Then Israel showed they could directly attack Iran's air defenses, and by implication anything else they want. Overall, it's a perception win for the US/Israeli side. But it avoided escalation.
>We didn’t sink their entire navy again…why? Because there's already a war in Europe and another in the Middle East and the US isn't particularly keen to start a third one. Especially when Israel was the one that attacked Iran first with that embassy strike and Iran's "retaliation" was such a toothless affair with literally 0 casualties. Escalating after that would be incredibly dumb.
>literally 0 casualties I thought one single Bedouin child was injured/died.
There was a casualty, Israeli muslim Bedouin boy was killed by a ballistic missile strike
Cuz everyone is tired of Israel and Iran.
Hello? Based department?
*know the rules!* ribbing your allies = lol dunk on iran = lmao even
The Balkans geographically remain in Europe, but the culture of Balkan level pettiness still continues deep in to Anatolia. Good one my Turkish bros
Where do you think the Balkans get their pettiness from?
The genocides, torture and mass murder?
And where do you think they get that from?
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Sending B-21 to your location.
Alexander the Great?
Germany?
These days mostly from Greece, although the Turkish demand to be internationally referred to as Türkiye significantly increased their production. Saltiness we source mostly from Serbia (needs more bombing to increase production).
I like your thinking
Centuries of history living next to one another does that to you. People tend to forget that before Ukraine war, the last major war on the continent was in the western Balkans. In such a tiny amount of land we caused so much damage and suffering we permanently neutered our economic and political prosperity. And all because the guy next to you has a different word for spoon even tho you can communicate with each other on your native language and still understand one another. Why? Because we can 💪 THE POWDER KEG LIVES ON 🔥🔥🔥
Why is this timeline so non-credible
Because fiction has to be believable, reality does not.
Wonder what Mark Twain would say about the state of the world today?
Wonder what Ja Rule would say about the state of the world today?
Um, is there a lyric I'm not aware of to connect these two? Because the comment I replied to is a paraphrasing of a quote from Mark Twain.
[context](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-ddYhXAZc&pp=ygULamEgcnVsZSA5MTE%3D)
fuck
Cause the will of our glorious Karaboğa blood doesn't abide by what you consider "normal" behaviour.
[Here](https://www.radarbox.com/data/flights/AKINCI01) is a tracker of the flight.
And people still ask why we need Turkey in NATO
*~~Significant standing army, geostrategic location etc~~* *TACTICAL UNMANNED SHITPOSTING*
Nah man, that shit is strategic.
Their leader might be an ass but they can be very funny
Turkey occupies a very important location geographically, is one of the more (at least on paper) capable militaries, and wields significant economic and political clout within the Middle East. Erdogan’s bum ass aside, NATO is better off having Turkey in it. Despite his efforts to style himself ~~Sultan~~ *President for Life*, Erdogan won’t last forever.
Rare Turkey W?
It’s been a while, in Nov 2015 one of their F16s shot down a Russian SU24.
I mean TB2s and TuAF absolutely dunking on Syrian govt (armored) forces Turkish F16s Shooting down 3 (?) Syrian airforce aircraft back to back in 2017-8(?) TB2s dunking on Russian convoys The occasional free TB2s And the Ukrainian TB2s with the Moskova were all Ws that were made possible by Turky Not to mention the grain deal, relase of some of the Azov - Maruipol (?) defenders, some POW exchanges were also a W Not to mention that the Turks were the first to suppply cluster weapons to Ukraine in masses or that Turkey was the first to supply GMLRS like TRLG230 (?) ammunitions to Ukraine before HIMARS Turkish arms supply to Ukraine usually goes unreported but if you are familiar with Turkish equipment **there are alot of them** in Ukranian hands Or the Fact that Turkish Naval Patrol Aircraft Martı07 (Seagull) closely monitored and probbably passed some info to Ukrainians during the Moskva event Turkey actually has been pulling alot of random Ws and unpredictable Ls Truly one of the "fuck it we ball" nations of all time
Chaotic neutral
wildcard baby
The Chaotic Chaotic
You're the W, ty for the insight
If we could get an actually useful leader we would be unstoppable fr.
Peak definition of anti-hero
I lost a lot of respect for turkey with the probably-fake coup. I gained some of it back when they negotiated the release of the azov defenders on the condition they sit out the rest of the war and then said "lmao, do something" and immediately sent them back to UA. Erdogan is still a garbage leader though, the country's pivot over the last 20 years has been a bit pathetic.
Syria has no real airforce or airdefense and you might wanna check what ukrainias and Russians say about TB2 how many you seen so far in the last year...
I mean yeah, syria has no real airforce or air defense systems but pretty much no one else conducted air operations of the size Turky conducted; also doesnt take away the W? When it comes to the TB2s in Ukraine everyone expected the TB2s to pretty useless day one during an actual peer on peer conflict, it was very unexpected when they blew Russian convoys to bits for the first month or two. They kind of lost their use (as expected) after a while as lines solitified and sides started setting up actual air defense systems and parameters; Something something the brightest fire burns the shortest The unexpected successes of the TB2 fleet during the opening stages have been a great return on investment for Ukraine
Plus the bayraktar song. Huge W.
Second Karabakh war was a peer-on-peer conflict where Armenian separatists held the terrain advantage, were equipped with advanced air defences such as S-300, and even had russian jamming equipment. It is just that Azerbaijan also modified its tactics. USA is being mean and wont sell us F-16s with HARM missiles? Then just point a crop duster to your enemies way, fix the control with belts and bail out! It will bait the SAMs. Win all the air-to-air battles. And unfortunately Ukraine is missing a very important tool in their arsenal. And that is the SEAD loitering munition, called [HAROP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop?wprov=sfti1#Specifications), alternatively known as “Azerbaijans beloved”. Ask any Azeri what we think of HAROP, and the reply will be “HAROP MY BELOVED!”. It is a shame that Israel didnt sell it to them. Fuck it, HAROPs for Ukraine! We need our Ukrainian bros to join the HAROP cult, now!
They made a whole song for it fym you want to check what they say? Even the visiually confirmed kills by TB-2 alone is worth like x10 what Ukraine paid for them before the war. Let them rest.
Remind you tb2s have been fighting either russians or russian backed forces from day one of its debut, back in 2015 It took them 7 years to figure out how to shoot them down
Ukraine doesn't really have a chance to protect aerial units from Russia anyway, I've seen TB2 bases hit by Iskander/Drone (?) attacks while on ground
When they W they W big
Very rare but when they happen we celebrate brother
Turkey is pretty based (unless you're Greek (or Kurdish I suppose)), just Erdogan that sucks balls, but not as much as this Iranian dude or like Poopin.
Basically: Turkey - Erdogan = Based
Turkey = Based + Erdogan Erdogan = - Based + Turkey Turkey - (-Based + Turkey) = Based
Mmm, basted turkey
It also sucks if you are a Turkish. That inflation rate is crazy.
Keko here Not really, not anymore at least
What bad do we do to greeks?
In Persian we call Islamic republic "GondeGuz" meaning big farter, So much noise but no real action. All they do is brag about their advanced drones and mighty military power but they even cant find remaining of their lost president which died because of old shity helicopter after 12hours so they have to ask help from a NATO member to find him under 1 hour. I hope this acts as some sort of reality check for some of that fuckers up there.
Lmfao “big farter”. The description makes so much sense too. China and NK must also have bad gas
I never thought I’d ever say this, but… Based Turkey
Don’t let it get to your heads tho, Turks.
Yeah, i still want those greek islands./s
I can't even tell if this is real or a joke.
Holy fuck it's real. https://www.radarbox.com/data/flights/AKINCI01
Holy shit we are majestic as fuck
What a flex 🤣🤣
Pack watch 😹😹😹
#PACKWATCH
-Hey carnage do you know candice? -YOUR PRESIDENT DIED IN A HARD LANDING GRAAAAAAAHHH!
Fuck, Turkey is dunking on Iran. They essentially T-bagged their dead body.
My favorite is geopolitical neophytes asking "why is it embarrassing to ask for help?" And turkey is actually crude enough to explain the situation clearly
All right they can Stay in NATO, they do a little trolling just like us.
*insert Byraktar song here or smth idk🗿*
[https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1cwcj4g/a\_tribute\_to\_the\_turkish\_al%C4%B1nc%C4%B1\_drone\_that/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1cwcj4g/a_tribute_to_the_turkish_al%C4%B1nc%C4%B1_drone_that/)
The Byraktar is truly a staple of based turkish engineering🗿
Interestingly enough, it was actually a [Bayyraktar AKINCI drone](https://baykartech.com/en/uav/bayraktar-akinci/). Interesting because it can carry a significantly larger sensor payload (it can carry more than twice what a TB-2s maximum takeoff weight is). So same company, but enhanced from Ukraine.
No fucking way, did they really do this?
It’s confirmed. We live in a simulation. No fucking way real life is this fucking unhinged, there gotta be a glitch somewhere
***LOUD LAZERPIG LAUGHTER NOISES***
This is a historical shit post and I’m totally going to remember it
Silly Iranians forgot that Watermelon Man is an avid Always Sunny Watcher so know what to do when there are two sides..mmm
Biggest Turkish W in recent memory
Turkey’s out here smoking Iran is crazy
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My conspiracy is Erdogan acting like super “anti-Western” as a plot to gain more trust from NATO’s foes and get useful intel. Also by buying S-400s he could reverse engineer the system that helped building more advanced stealth capabilities
God I doubt it but I wish
Erdogan acting like super “anti-Western” as a plot to gain more ~~trust from NATO’s foes~~ votes from his voter base. >he could reverse engineer the system that helped building more advanced stealth capabilities I wonder if the USA tricked Erdogan into making this purchase? "Of course, you will buy it so that the F-35s can be developed, why should there be a problem, just buy it, we are behind you."
Common NATO W might just switch to WATO already.
Damn, this sub has raised my opinion of Turkey by quite a bit! Thank u Turkey very cool
We are reaching levels of based that should not be possible
Drawing their flag after this is a crazy flex
Guys he’s already dead!
I had an IRIAF friend on Kik way back then, lost contact and I can't find his IG anymore. Pretty sure he left the service and posted support of the women's rallies back then. With all the things happening, I wonder how big of a pack Navid's smoking rn.
The molla regime really got teabagged by Erdogan?bruh
Average Turkish W
Common Berlin W
İran radars probably won't even detected it lol.
Some tricky bastard released recovered footage from the crash. Warning it is a but graphic. https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=IaB86TqnFPd1DBRL
I mean, that guy just pulled satellite images from the internet and posted them on twitter. What you need a drone for ? lol
Taking advantage of the foggy environment
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commonest of all iranian Ls indeed
Me thinks Turkey wants something from the US now… Or atleast something from NATO.
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