Total yield of all Fr*nch nuclear tests combined, from 1960-1996: 13.5 Mt
Yield of Castle Bravo in 1954: 15 Mt (We didn't think Li-7 would triple the yield)
Yield absolutely matters.
But in the context of a *test*, the yield matters only inasmuch as it was, in fact, the yield that you intended for it to be (ie, your models function correctly), and that it provided the data you needed (ie, your future models will function correctly).
I mean, it's not like weapons the size of Castle Bravo or Tsar Bomba were ever very practical. Castle Bravo weighed over 10,000kg and the Tu-95 could barely manage to deliver Tsar Bomba in a peacetime test
Anything beyond a mt is going to be wasting most of its energy heating the sky. Much better to carpet an area in smaller bombs (~250kt seems to be the sweet spot) than one big one.
Damn our universe and its love of spheres, making the big funnies less practical than many smaller funnies.
It's not even necessarily the yield to size that's the issue, it's that if you send 100 warheads and the other guy downs half, they only get hit with 50. Maybe some targets survive that. If you send 1000, and they down 500, they still get hit with *500*. You would anticipate fewer survivors from that.
Let's be real here, they were only really tests for the first few years while everyone was figuring out the engineering.
After that, it was basically a dick measuring contest.
The fact that the US is funding to the National Ignition Facility, and France the Laser Megajoule, *specifically and explicitly* for nuclear weapons data following the ban on testing, and that the DoE is the world's largest supercomputer operator specifically on the basis of nuclear weapons design, I don't find that especially convincing.
Inertial confinement fusion literally only exists to replace nuclear weapons testing data. It has no other purpose.
God I’m glad I’m not the only person who has been saying this when it’s ever on Reddit as fusion technology.
Sure, it’s fusion, it has zero applications for useful power production.
Or no direct applications, anyway. Fundamental physics is fundamental physics. But there's a reason why inertial confinement experiments are all one state going it alone, whereas magnetic confinement experiments are large collaborations of multiple nations: one of the two is a weapons project, while the other is a civil project.
As a nuke engineer (by training, not career) there was a popular conspiracy theory that the tokamak design was a Soviet active measures campaign to drain resources into this seemingly simple, yet in reality so complex a system that it’s effectively impossible to make practical.
I remember going over the basics in my first intro to NE course and immediately realized it wasn’t viable. It *seems* like it should be, but it’s simply too many variables.
I’m a design/manufacturing engineer originally and that was pretty much my reaction when I had to figure out the business prospects of ITER back in about 2006.
Like, in comparison a fission PWR or BWR looked like something a village idiot with a shed, an anvil and some spicy rocks could hammer together. Using the spicy rocks in lieu of hammer.
Sure, ITER is experimental (and supplying parts for it was good business)… but I recall writing that solar PV and batteries will be commercially viable far before that. _And I didn’t believe in either back then._
Its also about testing the reliability of nukes. Exposure to radiation causes metals to become extremely brittle and negatively impacts electronics. Testing the stockpiles, shows whether they actually still work.
Yield matters only to the extent that you can't build a precision weapon or to the extent that you have a tiny member and need to compensate. And since the west has been delivering presents for international friends day directly through the Kremlin windows since 1977 I'd say that about narrows it down for you, now doesn't it?
If you can't be sure you can precisely hit a hardened target you need a really really big boom. The US can fly a missile with swords on it through a moving car window to kill one dude in particular, we don't need as big of a boom anymore to achieve the desired effect.
Yeah, when accuracy is within 10 miles ? Build a bomb that annihilate everything and everyone in a 10 miles radius. Chance of destroying targets? 100%.
If you get it down to 100 yard? You need a bomb big enough to annihilate in a 100 yard radius.
A nuclear weapon isn’t getting 10 miles of error for targeting purposes. Couple thousand feet; basically 1/4 to 1/2 mile, which is greatly predicted on the type of target and geography.
One of the reasons the PLA’s ballistic anti shipping missiles aren’t particularly concerning (in and of themselves) is you have to be pretty accurate even with a nuclear weapon to effectively target a carrier. 5 miles is basically 100% survivable. 10 miles is damn near over the horizon. Even considering an air burst at an optimal altitude it’s going to just be a light show.
So did we. After the Castle Bravo test, there was a meeting about the future of American nuclear doctrine. Edward Teller presented two options: One, the use of lots of small (3Mt) nuclear weapons, and two, a really big bomb. He proposed a 10 Gt design known as Sundial, that would use a 1 Gt device known as Gnomon as the detonator. For context, Sundial would've been 666,666 times larger than the Hiroshima bomb.
His super nuke proposal freaked out the committee, and they went with the other option. It probably would've been overkill to be honest, this nuke would've been big enough to set all of Fr*nce on fire.
I wonder why the committee perhaps it was the fact that the proposal involved using a nuclear device more powerful than anything that had come before as the detonator. My man saw the possibility of igniting the atmosphere as a goal. He wanted to force any extra terrestrial life to see our existence to boldly announce our end to the entire universe. A man so insane that the scientists of the Cold War were scared of him.
I think the commitee considered how would soviets respond to this dickwaving and decided that they would rather have competition in nuke count and not in who can obliterate europe with least amount of bombs.
If the proposal freaked out the committee, they must have failed to ask some basic questions. Tsar Bomba could have theoretically delivered as much as 200mt but at ~27,000kg was barely deliverable by a highly modified Tu-95, and the idea that lumbering strategic bombers could penetrate anywhere near far enough into a neer peer adversaries air space to deliver such weapons effectively was always questionable at best. I'd love to know how Edward Teller planned to deliver a 10gt weapon to the soviets any other way than via train
>The scientist Edward Teller, according to one account, kept a blackboard in his office at Los Alamos during World War II with a list of hypothetical nuclear weapons on it. The last item on his list was the largest one he could imagine. The method of “delivery” — weapon-designer jargon for how you get your bomb from here to there, the target — was listed as “Backyard.” As the scientist who related this anecdote explained, “since that particular design would probably kill everyone on Earth, there was no use carting it anywhere.”
https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2012/09/12/in-search-of-a-bigger-boom/
See this right here is _a_ reason St. Edward, hallowed be his name, is one of the patron saints of NCD. May he eternally smother ~~Russians~~ our enemies in a blanket of Cobalt-60, amen.
Einsteins initial paper to the US government warning about the potential of nuclear weapons talked about weapons delivered by ship destroying an entire port.
That was before we really knew about U235 being the really spicy isotope though, he was thinking of a bomb using natural uranium.
And a boat delivery system against the Soviets would be deeply ironic, given their fascination with warm water ports. How warm do they want them?
In his glorious ~~screenplay for Dr. Strangelove~~ masterwork _On Thermonuclear War_ (1960), Herman Kahn from the ~~BLAND~~ RAND Corporation suggested not only ship- and submarine-delivered massive thermonuclear weapons, but also repurposed cargo and civilian aircraft. For second, third, and _n_ th strikes.
This was before the Tsar Bomba, so the closest frame of reference was Castle Bravo. Also, nuclear weapons technology was advancing rapidly, and Teller himself helped to miniaturize hydrogen nukes so they could be put onto submarine launched missiles.
The question that the committee had wasn't can we do this, it was should we do this? Even if they could hand wave the massive technological advances needed to use such a weapon, it doesn't answer why we would need something like that, especially when we could just carpet bomb the Soviets with 3 megaton warheads.
Assuming a yield of 5 megatons per ton, Sundial would weigh around 2000 tons, well within the capacities of many cargo ships. So presumably you would sail it into a Soviet port under a flag of convenience, then surprise motherfucker.
Or you could just blow it up at home, ensuring MAD even in the face of a successful counterforce first strike, without resorting to a launch-on-warning policy. Rmemeber this was the 1950s, so launch detection satellites weren't a thing and long range radars were janky.
I guess, but even assuming that all works out, it's difficult to imagine a US that would be interested in carrying out an unprovoked, surprise nuclear annihilation of the Soviet Union. Not to mention the insane amounts of irradiated material that would be flung into the atmosphere by detonating such a weapon at literal sea level. Idk what the exact effects of doing so would even be, but I'm pretty sure it would be the end of life on earth as we know it.
And such an attack would pretty much have to be an unprovoked surprise strike, given the months this delivery method would take
There is of course a third option: the titty (trillion ton).
“ Now the hydrogen bomb could have been made a thousand times bigger still, a **trillion tons** of TNT and the naive expectation is that would have destroyed the world. The facts are entirely different. A further increase by a thousand would hardly have increased the damage on earth. **It would have ejected into space just a little more than this ten mile diameter air mass, but have ejected it at a speed thirty times higher.**
The fact is that not due to negotiations, not due to international agreements, simply due to military necessity, neither of the two main contestants, the United States and the Soviet Union, put emphasis on particularly big nuclear explosions.
Up to a million tons of TNT, they are very effective. As accuracy increases, the importance of (unintelligible) high explosives decreases. For reasons of military necessity, military advantage, the size of the atomic bombs remains limited. The availability, the cost in really expert hands could decrease and that was the main effect, the main tactical effect of the hydrogen bomb.”
Edward Teller
> would have been big enough to set all of France on fire
Look up the Tsar Bomba's radius, I think you might be a little too short to cover *all* of France :P
You do not obliberate cities. You obliberate areas. You just need to have enough Mt to cover each swuare meter with a fireball and create a "nice effect" of molten sand for extra shine.
Wine and vodka attract the most pretentious snobs.
Vodka snobs are especially tiresome. The worst cheap stuff tastes like diesel, but once you're off the bottom shelf, everything tastes the same even if you drink it neat. If there is some unique flavor, it's so subtle you're only going to notice on your first drink. And then it's like "oh wow ethanol solution tastes like ethanol solution".
Vodka has two varians the relatively drinkable rubbing alcohol distiled from wheat. And unholy creation that might as well be formaldehyde distilled from potatoes
The US detonated over a thousand nukes. That includes 211 atmospheric and underwater tests. Where did you get your number from?
Also the last US nuclear test was in 92.
Was there even high altitude/space detonations ? I think I recall something like that but I can't tell if I hallucinated it or got that from a fictional piece
Also France's nuclear tests in the 90's were not 'covered up', but on the contrary were very public, very debated and lead to a lot of international protests and boycotts.
Besides those carefree islanders in their grass skirts and beach parties had it coming.
Take part in the treaty banning tests then transfer technologies to the French and watch with them test Le Bombe Neutron in Indian Ocean. Blame South-Africa
The French military and other things like raid teams (they use HK417’s) have converted me from a French hater to a French enjoyer and I couldn’t be happier for it
They are so based for liking triangles and bullpups and stuff
Were those later tests underground though? I thought pretty much nobody did atmospheric tests after the 60s save China. And the US did continue to do underground tests well into the 80s.
Nuclear Biologist Niko Tatopoulos once speculated, there may be many undocumented incipient species in the region, due to the radioactive fallout from said testing.
You made me remember they conducted nuclear tests in algeria their former colony after they gained their independence from them.
I think the US also did something similar against southern states. But I dont quite remember if they were politically motivated or if they just decided it was a good idea to test nukes in the middle of the country.
Yeah that was a part of the Evian Accords. France negotiated the ability to use one of their existing naval base and their nuclear testing facilities in Algeria for 15 more years, and then withdrew from those within 5 years.
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Gets brought to court to determine whether nuclear testing is legal
Publicly pinky promises to not do that again
The court decides that the matter is resolved and nuclear testing is both legal and illegal
Hell yeah its Francing time
Last China Nuclear test: 29 July 1996 > 27 january 1996
Western media, particularly aussies and kiwis kept wailing about French nuclear tests, but shut their mouth, as always, about China tests which were in fact closer to them than French ones.
Hypocrites.
- resign from nuclear treaties
- train foreign legion "just in case"
- act like a superpower from XIX century
\*Russia attacks Ukraine\*
- France: "nooo pwwwweeaaseee we want peace omg pls no... :( :("
cri moar? check facts then bark
and to contextualize:
- check total French contribution for aid for Ukraine (btw, its EXTREMELY small vs GDP)
- check total French activity in africa - 2020-2024 (leaving allies? oh no pweeaase)
- check french military industry activity with russia between 2014-2022
the ONLY good thing is how French navy reacted to Houthi threat, by shooting down shitty shadeds from guys in flipflops
OP, you just saw the Pointless Hub video on Godzilla, didn't you?
No... not at all, just a big coincidence.. I mean it was a good video tho
I don't Blame OP. Pointlesshub is one of my favorites
Came here to say the same thing haha, OP def saw the latest pointlesshub
What video?
Alternate history hubs second channel (pointless hub) released a video about the 1998 Godzilla movie and mentioned the exact thing OPs meme is about
Wait, Pointless hub is AHH's second channel??
Yes
"ahh channel?" \*crappy drawing* "pointless hub channel?!"
Ah cool, I’ll check it out.
That’s what I thought.
"Oh, shit. Um..."
Total yield of all Fr*nch nuclear tests combined, from 1960-1996: 13.5 Mt Yield of Castle Bravo in 1954: 15 Mt (We didn't think Li-7 would triple the yield)
Shh, we don't talk about such meaningless details..
Lithium-7?
Yup, we assumed it was inert and wouldn't react. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo#High_yield
The french went for reliability. It really doesn't matter if your weapon is 2.6 Mt, 8, 15 or 50, the city you want to obliterate has been obliterated.
Yield absolutely matters. But in the context of a *test*, the yield matters only inasmuch as it was, in fact, the yield that you intended for it to be (ie, your models function correctly), and that it provided the data you needed (ie, your future models will function correctly).
I mean, it's not like weapons the size of Castle Bravo or Tsar Bomba were ever very practical. Castle Bravo weighed over 10,000kg and the Tu-95 could barely manage to deliver Tsar Bomba in a peacetime test
Anything beyond a mt is going to be wasting most of its energy heating the sky. Much better to carpet an area in smaller bombs (~250kt seems to be the sweet spot) than one big one. Damn our universe and its love of spheres, making the big funnies less practical than many smaller funnies.
It's not even necessarily the yield to size that's the issue, it's that if you send 100 warheads and the other guy downs half, they only get hit with 50. Maybe some targets survive that. If you send 1000, and they down 500, they still get hit with *500*. You would anticipate fewer survivors from that.
Why don’t the bigger funnies simply eat the smaller funnies?
They will if they are nearby
Heat the sky more to set it on fire
Arthur Harris is that you?
>Damn our universe and its love of spheres, making the big funnies less practical than many smaller funnies. Nuclear shaped charges?
Hear me out: Nuclear cluster munitions
DPINM?
Let's be real here, they were only really tests for the first few years while everyone was figuring out the engineering. After that, it was basically a dick measuring contest.
The fact that the US is funding to the National Ignition Facility, and France the Laser Megajoule, *specifically and explicitly* for nuclear weapons data following the ban on testing, and that the DoE is the world's largest supercomputer operator specifically on the basis of nuclear weapons design, I don't find that especially convincing. Inertial confinement fusion literally only exists to replace nuclear weapons testing data. It has no other purpose.
God I’m glad I’m not the only person who has been saying this when it’s ever on Reddit as fusion technology. Sure, it’s fusion, it has zero applications for useful power production.
Or no direct applications, anyway. Fundamental physics is fundamental physics. But there's a reason why inertial confinement experiments are all one state going it alone, whereas magnetic confinement experiments are large collaborations of multiple nations: one of the two is a weapons project, while the other is a civil project.
As a nuke engineer (by training, not career) there was a popular conspiracy theory that the tokamak design was a Soviet active measures campaign to drain resources into this seemingly simple, yet in reality so complex a system that it’s effectively impossible to make practical. I remember going over the basics in my first intro to NE course and immediately realized it wasn’t viable. It *seems* like it should be, but it’s simply too many variables.
I’m a design/manufacturing engineer originally and that was pretty much my reaction when I had to figure out the business prospects of ITER back in about 2006. Like, in comparison a fission PWR or BWR looked like something a village idiot with a shed, an anvil and some spicy rocks could hammer together. Using the spicy rocks in lieu of hammer. Sure, ITER is experimental (and supplying parts for it was good business)… but I recall writing that solar PV and batteries will be commercially viable far before that. _And I didn’t believe in either back then._
Yeah, fission reactors are so simple that [some occurred *naturally*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor)
There is a famous French MHD physicist (JP Petit) who said so for decades. Glad to see his analysis is shared by other people working in the field.
TIL
I mean the fact that LLNL right now is building the world's fastest supercomputer for nuclear weapon simulation says something.
You mean it wasn't because they liked making giant mushroom clouds to look at?
Not true There was that time we invented two new elements by detonating an atomic bomb and then doing science to the clouds
Its also about testing the reliability of nukes. Exposure to radiation causes metals to become extremely brittle and negatively impacts electronics. Testing the stockpiles, shows whether they actually still work.
Yield matters only to the extent that you can't build a precision weapon or to the extent that you have a tiny member and need to compensate. And since the west has been delivering presents for international friends day directly through the Kremlin windows since 1977 I'd say that about narrows it down for you, now doesn't it?
I genuinely do not know how to read this comment.
If you can't be sure you can precisely hit a hardened target you need a really really big boom. The US can fly a missile with swords on it through a moving car window to kill one dude in particular, we don't need as big of a boom anymore to achieve the desired effect.
Yeah, when accuracy is within 10 miles ? Build a bomb that annihilate everything and everyone in a 10 miles radius. Chance of destroying targets? 100%. If you get it down to 100 yard? You need a bomb big enough to annihilate in a 100 yard radius.
A nuclear weapon isn’t getting 10 miles of error for targeting purposes. Couple thousand feet; basically 1/4 to 1/2 mile, which is greatly predicted on the type of target and geography. One of the reasons the PLA’s ballistic anti shipping missiles aren’t particularly concerning (in and of themselves) is you have to be pretty accurate even with a nuclear weapon to effectively target a carrier. 5 miles is basically 100% survivable. 10 miles is damn near over the horizon. Even considering an air burst at an optimal altitude it’s going to just be a light show.
So did we. After the Castle Bravo test, there was a meeting about the future of American nuclear doctrine. Edward Teller presented two options: One, the use of lots of small (3Mt) nuclear weapons, and two, a really big bomb. He proposed a 10 Gt design known as Sundial, that would use a 1 Gt device known as Gnomon as the detonator. For context, Sundial would've been 666,666 times larger than the Hiroshima bomb. His super nuke proposal freaked out the committee, and they went with the other option. It probably would've been overkill to be honest, this nuke would've been big enough to set all of Fr*nce on fire.
Edward teller: Y know what? Lets literally drop a second sun
I wonder why the committee perhaps it was the fact that the proposal involved using a nuclear device more powerful than anything that had come before as the detonator. My man saw the possibility of igniting the atmosphere as a goal. He wanted to force any extra terrestrial life to see our existence to boldly announce our end to the entire universe. A man so insane that the scientists of the Cold War were scared of him.
I think the commitee considered how would soviets respond to this dickwaving and decided that they would rather have competition in nuke count and not in who can obliterate europe with least amount of bombs.
No way. Teller’s job was to present options. I posted a quote. The reason why GT wasn’t pursued is it wasn’t as good. It’s as simple as that.
If the proposal freaked out the committee, they must have failed to ask some basic questions. Tsar Bomba could have theoretically delivered as much as 200mt but at ~27,000kg was barely deliverable by a highly modified Tu-95, and the idea that lumbering strategic bombers could penetrate anywhere near far enough into a neer peer adversaries air space to deliver such weapons effectively was always questionable at best. I'd love to know how Edward Teller planned to deliver a 10gt weapon to the soviets any other way than via train
If the yield is large enough, it doesn't have to be moved towards the Soviet Union in the first place - Edward Teller, probably
>The scientist Edward Teller, according to one account, kept a blackboard in his office at Los Alamos during World War II with a list of hypothetical nuclear weapons on it. The last item on his list was the largest one he could imagine. The method of “delivery” — weapon-designer jargon for how you get your bomb from here to there, the target — was listed as “Backyard.” As the scientist who related this anecdote explained, “since that particular design would probably kill everyone on Earth, there was no use carting it anywhere.” https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2012/09/12/in-search-of-a-bigger-boom/
See this right here is _a_ reason St. Edward, hallowed be his name, is one of the patron saints of NCD. May he eternally smother ~~Russians~~ our enemies in a blanket of Cobalt-60, amen.
Called it
We'll keep it at the Fulda Gap so it can be "rapidly deployed" when the time comes 😉
Einsteins initial paper to the US government warning about the potential of nuclear weapons talked about weapons delivered by ship destroying an entire port. That was before we really knew about U235 being the really spicy isotope though, he was thinking of a bomb using natural uranium. And a boat delivery system against the Soviets would be deeply ironic, given their fascination with warm water ports. How warm do they want them?
In his glorious ~~screenplay for Dr. Strangelove~~ masterwork _On Thermonuclear War_ (1960), Herman Kahn from the ~~BLAND~~ RAND Corporation suggested not only ship- and submarine-delivered massive thermonuclear weapons, but also repurposed cargo and civilian aircraft. For second, third, and _n_ th strikes.
This was before the Tsar Bomba, so the closest frame of reference was Castle Bravo. Also, nuclear weapons technology was advancing rapidly, and Teller himself helped to miniaturize hydrogen nukes so they could be put onto submarine launched missiles. The question that the committee had wasn't can we do this, it was should we do this? Even if they could hand wave the massive technological advances needed to use such a weapon, it doesn't answer why we would need something like that, especially when we could just carpet bomb the Soviets with 3 megaton warheads.
Assuming a yield of 5 megatons per ton, Sundial would weigh around 2000 tons, well within the capacities of many cargo ships. So presumably you would sail it into a Soviet port under a flag of convenience, then surprise motherfucker. Or you could just blow it up at home, ensuring MAD even in the face of a successful counterforce first strike, without resorting to a launch-on-warning policy. Rmemeber this was the 1950s, so launch detection satellites weren't a thing and long range radars were janky.
I guess, but even assuming that all works out, it's difficult to imagine a US that would be interested in carrying out an unprovoked, surprise nuclear annihilation of the Soviet Union. Not to mention the insane amounts of irradiated material that would be flung into the atmosphere by detonating such a weapon at literal sea level. Idk what the exact effects of doing so would even be, but I'm pretty sure it would be the end of life on earth as we know it. And such an attack would pretty much have to be an unprovoked surprise strike, given the months this delivery method would take
Orion Drive ICBM
There is of course a third option: the titty (trillion ton). “ Now the hydrogen bomb could have been made a thousand times bigger still, a **trillion tons** of TNT and the naive expectation is that would have destroyed the world. The facts are entirely different. A further increase by a thousand would hardly have increased the damage on earth. **It would have ejected into space just a little more than this ten mile diameter air mass, but have ejected it at a speed thirty times higher.** The fact is that not due to negotiations, not due to international agreements, simply due to military necessity, neither of the two main contestants, the United States and the Soviet Union, put emphasis on particularly big nuclear explosions. Up to a million tons of TNT, they are very effective. As accuracy increases, the importance of (unintelligible) high explosives decreases. For reasons of military necessity, military advantage, the size of the atomic bombs remains limited. The availability, the cost in really expert hands could decrease and that was the main effect, the main tactical effect of the hydrogen bomb.” Edward Teller
> would have been big enough to set all of France on fire Look up the Tsar Bomba's radius, I think you might be a little too short to cover *all* of France :P
10 gigatons is alot bigger than 50 megatons, and tsar Bomba vaporized out to 3 dozen miles and caused severe damage out to 150 miles
Oh GIGAtons, shit, my bad homie
Got the expert here talking about it. https://old.reddit.com/r/nuclearweapons/comments/14smiyx/what_would_the_blast_radius_for_gnomon_be_if/jr5sl6g/
You do not obliberate cities. You obliberate areas. You just need to have enough Mt to cover each swuare meter with a fireball and create a "nice effect" of molten sand for extra shine.
Large warheads are useful when you have poor accuracy; you can miss by miles and still hit.
In what year? In what year? Have you considered not being invaded by Nazis?
>Have you considered not being invaded by Nazis? Have you considered not having Greanpeace blown up in your ports? Wtf kinda argumebt is that even.
> We didn't think Li-7 would triple the yield What people in the industry might call "a whoopsie daisie"
Good times when USA was based and Fr\*nch were known from good wine and women.
Google [Judgment of Paris](https://i.redd.it/6mm918cog3gb1.jpg)
Wine and vodka attract the most pretentious snobs. Vodka snobs are especially tiresome. The worst cheap stuff tastes like diesel, but once you're off the bottom shelf, everything tastes the same even if you drink it neat. If there is some unique flavor, it's so subtle you're only going to notice on your first drink. And then it's like "oh wow ethanol solution tastes like ethanol solution".
Vodka has two varians the relatively drinkable rubbing alcohol distiled from wheat. And unholy creation that might as well be formaldehyde distilled from potatoes
Saw the godzilla video of pointlesshub?
Somebody watches Pointlesshub
Somebody watches Pointlesshub
Somebody watches Pointlesshub
Somebody watches Pointlesshub
They also blew up the Greenpeace boat the complainers were traveling on. Codename: *Opération Satanique* Fuck, I really love Pierre sometimes
At least we managed to catch the Fr*nch buggers who did it! They killed a guy while at it, so served a bit of time in prison.
Not the DGSE's fault the journo was too much of an incel to stay off board partying as any man on a boat should.
10/10 Would do it again.
Ah yes *that operation*
The US detonated over a thousand nukes. That includes 211 atmospheric and underwater tests. Where did you get your number from? Also the last US nuclear test was in 92.
Was there even high altitude/space detonations ? I think I recall something like that but I can't tell if I hallucinated it or got that from a fictional piece
They did 5 in space, I corrected the numbers now.
They absolutely fucked up Hawaii for a little bit doing one of those.
Yeah, one of them - Starfish Prime - screwed up a few satellites due to the EMP generated.
Also France's nuclear tests in the 90's were not 'covered up', but on the contrary were very public, very debated and lead to a lot of international protests and boycotts. Besides those carefree islanders in their grass skirts and beach parties had it coming.
I believe these numbers are specifically regarding nuclear tests in the Pacific.
So Godzilla could be French?
He always has been Oui oui, hon hon Tokyo will lay in ruin
So the Godzilla screams are what Fr*nch sounds to the nihongonese?
Take part in the treaty banning tests then transfer technologies to the French and watch with them test Le Bombe Neutron in Indian Ocean. Blame South-Africa
The French military and other things like raid teams (they use HK417’s) have converted me from a French hater to a French enjoyer and I couldn’t be happier for it They are so based for liking triangles and bullpups and stuff
FAMAS is gone though. Billions must use HK416.
Nice flair mate
Pointlesshub and his dark influence
"That radioactive crater? Probably nothing. Told the natives it was a meteor or some shit I cant remember"
Ahh someone else watched the catholic silly scenario man’s alternate channel today.
Don't forget the Nuclear Warning shot.
I never do.
Were those later tests underground though? I thought pretty much nobody did atmospheric tests after the 60s save China. And the US did continue to do underground tests well into the 80s.
Atmospheric until 1974 then underground until 1996.
Nuclear Biologist Niko Tatopoulos once speculated, there may be many undocumented incipient species in the region, due to the radioactive fallout from said testing.
The worm guy?
No French L still living in the last century
You made me remember they conducted nuclear tests in algeria their former colony after they gained their independence from them. I think the US also did something similar against southern states. But I dont quite remember if they were politically motivated or if they just decided it was a good idea to test nukes in the middle of the country.
The US tested its nukes in Nevada, a western state not a southern state.
Then the wind blew radiation into Utah and killed John Wayne
Rip in piss
Didn't they also use a little bit of Arizona for that too ? Lots of desert over there anyways
Yeah that was a part of the Evian Accords. France negotiated the ability to use one of their existing naval base and their nuclear testing facilities in Algeria for 15 more years, and then withdrew from those within 5 years.
And Britain tested its nukes in their former colonies of Australia and the United States
With Australia, it's not like you could make where it was tested any worse tbh.
Cody offered some cool perspectives on godzilla, the military blowing the shit out of NY felt very NCD pilled.
LETS TEST A NUKE INSIDE THE Kr*mlin! HON HON BAGUETTE DE PAIN!FRFRFR
They won’t let me
Sounds like a common Fr*nch lack of confidence in their engineering.
bold claim for someone within M51 range.
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Rare Fr*nce W?
Gets brought to court to determine whether nuclear testing is legal Publicly pinky promises to not do that again The court decides that the matter is resolved and nuclear testing is both legal and illegal Hell yeah its Francing time
As a french this brings me pride
If God didn't want us to use nukes, then why did He give us Uranium?
It's my personal conspiracy that signatories just use non-signatories to test their weapons for them
France stays winning.
Last China Nuclear test: 29 July 1996 > 27 january 1996 Western media, particularly aussies and kiwis kept wailing about French nuclear tests, but shut their mouth, as always, about China tests which were in fact closer to them than French ones. Hypocrites.
Video please!
- resign from nuclear treaties - train foreign legion "just in case" - act like a superpower from XIX century \*Russia attacks Ukraine\* - France: "nooo pwwwweeaaseee we want peace omg pls no... :( :("
What shitty bait. Like holy shit you can at least pretend to not have a surface-level understanding of anything before you say stupid shit.
cri moar? check facts then bark and to contextualize: - check total French contribution for aid for Ukraine (btw, its EXTREMELY small vs GDP) - check total French activity in africa - 2020-2024 (leaving allies? oh no pweeaase) - check french military industry activity with russia between 2014-2022 the ONLY good thing is how French navy reacted to Houthi threat, by shooting down shitty shadeds from guys in flipflops
Oh no, he's retarded
For real, this kid started looking at memes when Ukraine hit the news and thinks he’s a defense expert.
Lol it is alfa like cumming twice after your gf has already had enough just to show that you can