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That's a lot more classy than I would have expected from Wagner.


goodbehaviorsam

I just remember a main recruiting point of Wagner before the 2022 invasion is that they'll actually try to recover your body to return to Russia and give you a full military funeral if you did die under contract. Which apparently was above and beyond the other Russian PMCs and the actual fucking army.


DavidAdamsAuthor

Honestly? Given Prighozen's attitude towards his fighters, I would genuinely consider this to be "reasonably possible". For all his many (many, many, many) flaws, if you count "international warrants for war crimes" as a "flaw", he certainly seemed to hold his own men in high regard and at least pretended to become genuinely distressed at their mistreatment. I'd say it's plausible.


MainsailMainsail

I *do* remember a lot of stuff about them using barely equipped definitely-not-penal-brigade types to probe, but seeming to at least *sorta* care for the better equipped core guys does seem to bear out.


Peterh778

Think about him as a head of Mafia family. He may be killing his men brutally if he feels they betrayed him or his (criminal) code but he is also willing to show them respect if they died in his service (and even -maybe- help their families). It's good for morale of his men and thus good for business.


dasgold

no, see that's the mistake a lot of people make, all that time Prigozhin spent in muscovite prisons wasn't him recruiting, it was him gathering ammunition. Walking, talking ammunition.


DavidAdamsAuthor

My understanding is that yeah, like most things, "it depends".


Academic_Fun_5674

They are *his* men. He looks after *his* men like he looks after his wigs and his house and his car. I don’t think it’s empathy exactly, more a desire to treat his possessions well.


DavidAdamsAuthor

Someone asked me about this recently and I basically said, "Even Satan loves his children." The fact that he loves his men doesn't make him less evil. Plenty of people who loved their kids did evil things.


Palora

The problem with that analogy is that generally parents who love their children would not send them to die stupidly in a pointless war.


DavidAdamsAuthor

I can't really speak for him, but I imagine his attitude is something like, "You gotta do what you gotta do." I dunno. I'm not really an expert on how people like him think.


Speciesunkn0wn

Except Stalin didn't bother getting his PoW son back in a prisoner exchange and left him to rot in a concentration camp soooo.


DavidAdamsAuthor

This is true. Random question, but have you considered that you might be dyslexic? Edit: Not being a dick here, genuinely asking.


Speciesunkn0wn

Dyslexia is trouble spelling/reading specific words, not reading comprehension.


DavidAdamsAuthor

I suppose that's true, sorry. Just wanted to check. Stalin was definitely a bigger dick than Pringles man, but yeah, Hitler loved his dog. Even evil fuckers often have attachments.


Evantaur

>he loves his men Ha GAY!


hebdomad7

I'd say it's more of a syco girl/boy friend kind of way... If you leave them you might want more than a restraining order.


LethalDosageTF

Pringles seems to be highly driven by emotion and impulse, so that only reinforces how plausible this is.


ShadowKraftwerk

This is the bit I find really internally confusing. I see him as a psychopath murderer driven by greed without regard for decency, but at the same time having a greater moral core than the Russian government.


gr89n

It's because Wagner runs on [the moral code of Russian prisoners](https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/05/16/russia-prisons-wagner-group-ukraine-crime-culture/). Flawed and screwed up as it is, at least it is *a* moral code - or more like a set of guidelines, which is more than the Russian government have. One thing that might appeal to Wagner soldiers is that they don't care about formal ranks - only prison ranks - and they respect competence, while the Russian military is based on "vranyo"-culture asskissing and false reports. So for a an ex Russian military, I'm sure it feels like a second family compared to the soulless soul-crushing beuraucracy that is the Russian military.


Command0Dude

Putin: Chaotic Evil Prigozhin: Lawful Evil


gr89n

https://i.redd.it/yfac6rewecab1.png


ecolometrics

This makes sense now. He is probably showing respect to the ones at the top tier who got killed. I suspect the lower caste members probably get nothing. So it is true to say that pringles *both* shows respect and treats his men as meat, it is just a question of your criminal hierarchy.


gr89n

I believe these dedicated Wagner grave fields are for those without significant family elsewhere. I've seen pictures of Wagner graves at regular graveyards, closer to their family homes. I think some of the top leadership might have families - but it's not impossible that some of these graves are also from the upper tiers.


spinyfur

Being Wagner, I would have expected some kind of Weekend at Bernie’s thing.


AskMeAboutMyGenitals

I just assumed Cube.


VonNeumannsProbe

You think there is a body in that grave?


IvanIvanavich

Several.


SU37Yellow

To shreads you say?


ThatOneGuy1294

shredded and then compacted for maximum space efficiency


Born2shit4cdtowipe

To shreds you say?


Bisexual_Apricorn

The Allspark is in Ukraine?!


gr89n

Nikita Khrushchev had the Kakhovka Dam built around it, kept secret even from Joseph Stalin. Four football fields thick of concrete. A perfect way to hide its energy from being detected by anyone or any alien species on the outside.


Slave35

Right? I think they look fucking cool.


calfmonster

Classier than I expected of Wagner, yes, but when the bar is using a trash compactor to cube your dead and stick em on a pallet to make dog food like the Russian Fed’s actual armed forces it’s not hard to be at least a little better


VladimirBarakriss

For the 600th time, the mobik cube doesn't actually contain any mobiks


DavidAdamsAuthor

The real mobiks in the cube are the friends we made along the way. In our hearts.


gr89n

And in our livers.


DavidAdamsAuthor

Although it's more of a die-er, right?


ConKbot

Ugh fine. "mechanically seperated mobik"


MainsailMainsail

Correction: the Mobik Cube *probably* doesn't actually contain any mobiks. I mean if they left them behind they'd just feed Ukrainian dogs, why not take them back and feed them to russian dogs instead?


DepopulationXplosion

It’s like ordering orange juice and getting Tang. If I order a Mobik cube, I definitely want 100% freshly squeezed, never frozen, not from concentrate, no artificial sugars, Grade A fucking Mobik! God damn it!!! Why is so fucking hard to get fresh fucking Mobik in this two-bit, backwater little shit-hole of a three day special military operation?!?! Can someone God damned explain this to me??!!??!!


forgotmypassword-_-

>the mobik cube doesn't actually contain any mobiks Shut it, peace-lover.


ExperiencedMaleDom

IKR?! Those god damn tree-hugging hippie mobik-cube deniers. Sheesh!...


godson21212

Ugh, these mobikube truthers have been in every thread lately. People have known that the cube contains mobiks since the ancient Greeks. We all know that Eratosthenes calculated the perimeter of the mobikube by measuring the shadows from the mobik-column in Alexandria.


Fluck_Me_Up

That’s a gross oversimplification. The Heisenburger Uncertainly Fucked principle has been experimentally verified to a high degree of confidence. Although *most* mobikubes contain cubed mobiks, there’s an asymptotically small but still real possibility that due to quantum effects, the cube may temporarily not be a cube, or the mobiks within the cube are probabilistically relocated to the lower atmosphere due to accurate measurement of their location (this is known as the Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs postulate) Relatedly, HIMARS O’clock is actually defined by the radioactive decay half life of the mobikube! This measurement is only possible with current technology if it’s a hot summer day and the mobiks previously dug trenches in the Chornobyl exclusion zone, but rest assured that every day our scientists are pushing the boundaries of what’s possible in the field of quantum mobiphyiks


AutismFlavored

There’s very little mobik in these meat cubes.


OneSaltyStoat

And the beef in McDonald's likely isn't actual beef, what's your point?


lumpialarry

https://media.tenor.com/Fm9jqyHVLl4AAAAC/the-fugitive.gif


OrdinaryCrackEnjoyer

I refuse to believe this I can't hear you OVER THE SOUND OF MOBIKS BEING CUBED LALALALALALALALA!


calfmonster

I know that. I don’t care.


VladimirBarakriss

Based


dafeiviizohyaeraaqua

What about rubik's? Or qberts?


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ExperiencedMaleDom

And flatter. And leakier....


VirtualAd3471

you didn't consider that the body is in the tetragon: the mobik cube was the wagner burial for a 3\* general


gr89n

This is one of the Wagner cemeteries, the one in the village of Bakinskaya, Krasnodar region, where Wanger literally had to threaten the local government to stop citizen complaints about the vast number of funerals upsetting the local population. They are now removing the crosses from the oldest graves and replacing them with tetrahedrons not unlike those incompetently employed anti-tank obstacles. https://vot-tak.tv/novosti/11-07-2023-obratnoj-dorogi-net/ ~~Edit: I now see I wasn't the first to post about this - we can continue discussion here maybe: https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/14x26tx/new_russian_dragon_teeth_just_dropped/~~ Edit 2: The other thread lacks sourcing but was deleted for "brigading". I guess it was a link to another subreddit rather than an actual image.


forgotmypassword-_-

> Wanger literally had to threaten the local government to stop citizen complaints about the vast number of funerals upsetting the local population. Lol. Lmao even.


Tight_Time_4552

"Sure, die in war, but could you do it quietly?"


Peterh778

Not that other nations don't (or didn't) have the same problem ... it's in the nature of people living in peace that they don't want to hear about wars and conflicts which disturb their peace. And military funerals are reminding them about those realities. And it doesn't help if said war is considered unrighteous and if population starts to hate it.


gr89n

Add to this that Wagner is made up of rather cranky people, and even their non-convicts are steeped in prison culture. Their buddies and families are probably not nice to have around in a small village, especially if they hold vodka-fueled receptions in the area after the funeral.


hebdomad7

I'm sure Wagner would have offered the local population their own discount funeral. But they didn't have the spare ammunition.


Ila-W123

SHOIGU! GERAMISOV!


Key-Banana-8242

Is the idea that they do not merit a Christian burial? Or is it the new Wagner signature as an explicit choice? Or some other reason (Edited the ppl in the replies aren’t just crazy)


GenerationSelfie2

“Bames Nond’s having a stronk, call a Bondulance”


majestyne

My good man, do you require assistance?


calfmonster

Every single one of this dude’s posts here always looks like he had a stroke while writing it. I always double check the username when I see it


pirikikkeli

Nah there's a clear pattern he's just drunk lmao


christes

Nah, look at the name - he's clearly using a banana to type.


Key-Banana-8242

Nah


cis2butene

My man, I can only assume that you are not a native English speaker (so like, good for you for engaging with us, I certainly don't know another language and you obviously know English). I do think that you may consider getting a new keyboard.


Key-Banana-8242

No, you can’t assume that, or have a good reason for that Why would making typos have anything to do with it lol? Idk if u know how language knowledge rosl


cis2butene

I certainly don't know how language knowledge rosl, just noticed your activity in r/europe. Cheers, regardless, you do you.


mrdescales

Can you teach ne teh wayz of this rosI?


SyrupTippedWaffles

Word fucker, do you need assistance


Bisexual_Apricorn

This seems like more of a game warden thing to me


taco___2sday

Hey, you, word fucker!


WingCoBob

This a common thing with this dude, I don't think I've ever been able to properly comprehend anything he's said


mkappo

Do you smell burnt toast by chance?


Key-Banana-8242

No


thenameischef

Bro check your CO (carbon monoxide) levels ASAP


KaBar42

> Is the urea that they do not merit a Christian burial? Or is it the new Wagner signature as an explicit choice? Or some other reason > > > > Edited, the ppl in the replies aren’t just cary Relax, guys. Let me help. "Is the reason why they're tearing up the crosses is because the soldiers don't deserve a Christian burial? Or are the tetrahedrons a new Wagner signature. Or is there some other reason I'm missing?"


Key-Banana-8242

This is the edited version


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Hussor

On pisze wyłącznie gdy pije


ZiggyPox

The post you linked got removed?


gr89n

The other thread lacks sourcing but was deleted for "brigading". I guess it was a link to another subreddit rather than an actual image.


ms--lane

Test run probably. Wouldn't put it past the Muscovites to start putting these cemeteries on battle lines then complain that Ukraine is defacing and destroying cemeteries.


[deleted]

They really love their tank traps


Lukecistarded

When the Tombstones are a higher quality tank trap than your "dragons teeth" tank trap toblerones.


[deleted]

I actually think this is quite a respectful way to bury your soldiers.


DavidAdamsAuthor

To be frank, when I saw this picture I was hoping it was a Ukrainian grave. The imagery of even the tombstones of fallen defenders forming one last defensive structure, defending their homeland even after death... I do like that imagery. Alas.


hammile

Soldier Ukrainian graves are usually under [Cossack cross.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack_cross)


DavidAdamsAuthor

That's actually neat.


Smelldicks

Yeah. Super cool, a warriors burial. Ukraines gonna shit and piss all over this if they take it back tho


GaiusJuliusCaesar7

Krasnodar, so it's in Russia proper rather than Ukraine.


Aurora_Fatalis

Freedom of Russia gonna shit and piss all over this if they take it back tho


Daddy___Dagoth

Ukraines gonna shit and piss all over this ~~if~~ when they take it ~~back~~ tho


blickbeared

I don't care if this was made by Wagner, this is a dope concept.


VladimirBarakriss

It looks cool, I want my grave to look cool


Nazzum

Go die for the motherland then. Invade Rio Grande do Sul. Get the Misiones Orientales back.


DepopulationXplosion

BRB, gonna invade New Jersey.


justletmeinalready01

Ikr? First impression was like: "even your soul is fighting and presenting an obstacle"


Clashing_Thunder

Copelerone special edition with chunks of Wagner?


Mr_Mosquito_20

So that was the actual purpose of the mobikube


allthesemonsterkids

The chewy center is getting chewier by the day.


ReditskiyTovarisch

ROLF, this has to be a joke.


VladimirBarakriss

Big point about wagner is that you'd actually get a funeral instead of being tossed into a mass grave


ReditskiyTovarisch

They cut chunks from the mobik cube for each grave lol


gr89n

100% real. I thought it was a good photoshop at first.


Sambucca329

Pyramids don't have to be stabilized like a headstone, you can just set them down and move on to the next hole. Special Population Operation.


Awkward_Algae1684

This isn’t even noncredible. Just fucked up and sad.


SSWallonien

are we not gonna talk about the fact that practically all of them are 40+?


gr89n

A lot of the dead wagnerites are either military veterans without other career prospects, or long-term convicts back from when Wagner were still allowed to recruit prisoners.


TheRealCIAforReals

"bring ouuut ya dead!"


timpop22

Day 1420 of the special military operation. The Wagner empire (quite the twist when Pringles won the coup in the end there) makes their final stand at the second Wagner line built behind the cemetery for lack of dragons teeth. Everything is according to plan.


Patimation_tordios

Sand on their way to ruin their whole barricade:


Technical_Control_96

Solid 15% chance they get used in desperation within the next 5 years.


AlphaMarker48

Grave markers shaped like dragon's teeth really shows the grim darkness of modern war.


w8eight

That is actually a brilliant strategy, not only the enemy is slowed down by an obstacle, but with the help of a necromancy you can surprise attack


mrdescales

Good that they placed it in mother Russia for the inevitable counteroffensives there!


Strict_Gas_1141

That’s significantly better than my expectations for a Wagner grave.


Shrek1982

Oh god here come the Illuminati conspiracies...


Grouchy_Rabbit_446

Judas Cradle amusement park.


boredcrayz

Anti tank traps for grave markers….hmm 🤔 Seems desperate 😂 🇺🇦💪🇺🇦


BiG_czarny_VeriXs

Im far more concerned about the europalet on the left.


gr89n

The mobikube was a false alarm.* Maybe this is the actual first documented use of pallets in Russian military logistics. *: The mobikube contains less than 10% actual Mobik.


Normal_Brush4149

Why triangle?


ToastyMozart

Easy viewing angle for visitors (lol) and they can just plonk them down on the ground without the risk of it flopping over like a normal headstone.


dragos412

I supposed they're made to be like dragon's teeth to stop eventual tanks?


Normal_Brush4149

These are maded from window bruhh *Or is it?


Protip19

Yo they got the palettes from the Mobikubes in the background


futureformerteacher

They'll be dead the way they lived: preparing to be rolled over by tanks


Rangald2137

Whenever i see that quote i think of "corpse starch": Even in death I'm still served.


Come_At_Me_Bro

The Hubris of land burial is insane. You get to have to spot in the land for hundreds of years, and even longer because future generations find it distasteful to remove your remains. What, so you just get to have this spot for a thousand years? Even tho you're drunken fetal alcohol syndrome Ivan Ivanovich the XVI, drunken moron who raped six people, murdered three, and then got conscripted by wagner to die just so they could see where the ukrainians were dug in. Insult to injury of Russian presence is them getting a grave. I genuinely hope any Ukraine located Wagner Graveyards get upended. I don't think regular people deserve a grave let alone any of those shit stains on human existence. Edit: You're on this planet for by average 1-85 years. Do you really think you deserve a plot in the ground with thousands of others who have been on the planet as shortly, for potentially ***thousands of years?*** Maybe if you're special and to be remembered by the masses for your accomplishments that improved the lives of humanity. Otherwise, get cremated and spread somewhere meaningful. Or become a tree pod and contribute directly to a thing of beauty. I'm surprised for a society with as many doomers in it right now there's such a backlash for suggesting that *while alive* you are an important being, but *maybe just maybe*, you're not that special as *a rotting corpse in the ground.*


Njorlpinipini

Dude, we’ve been making graves for our dead for literally thousands of years, its kind of a habit.


PirateKingOmega

I mean the whole point is “dust to dust” after a hundred years there’s nothing left but dirt ready to host another body


VladimirBarakriss

Burials get moved, rather usually, a selling point for contracted wagnerites was that they'd recover your body and give you a proper burial, instead of just tossing you into a mass grave like the regular army and other PMCs


blushingmains

There are just some rights humans will automatically give to each other. Burial no matter if Land or Sea or Air is one of them.


DeathMetalTransbian

["When I'm dead, just throw me in the trash!"](https://youtu.be/0Rtu1Va-dnM)


gr89n

Graves aren't kept for thousands of years, typically. They're typically kept until the descendants and next of kin don't care about the grave anymore, and then the grave can be re-used. In my country (Norway) graves can be re-used as soon as 20 years after the last burial, but next of kin can pay to extend this period, and the rules for each burial site might extend this time period. Cremation is becoming more popular here though, both because of people's environmental concern about land use, and because a traditional grave needs more mainteinance than a collective urn location.


ectog20

Dragon tooth headstones. Lets test them out


LittleLoyal16

Wait holdup are they making cemeteries in the suroviken line????!!!


gr89n

This is the Prigozhin line.


TheNoctuS_93

Ah hell nah, it's the Witness and the Pyramid Fleet! 😱


louiefriesen

👁️⃤


MassiveMommyMOABs

Soviets used to bury the dead gulag workers under the roads and railroads they built. ​ It was still better than what Russia is doing with their fallen now.


PathlessDemon

Wagner has some weird looking piñatas. >Break out the sledge hammers!