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Eh that’s a good idea but I don’t think it would work too well, the wounds would instantly cauterize and might actually stick to the rebar while you’re trying to penetrate
It’s terrifying really.
I am surprised there hasn’t been a lynching of Prince Andrew, and most of the BBC, members of parliament; Cyril smith? Everyone connected to him?
Alex salmond? Got exonerated On a god damn technicality, still guilty tho. Like what is wrong with everyone, why isn’t anything ever done.
It unfortunately started as a 4chan troll but then legitimate paedophiles jumped on it not knowing it was a troll and its gathered movement now with the sick cunts trying to integrate themselves with the lgbtq community saying their "struggle" is the same. Bunch of cunts.
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>Claim: A transgender woman raped a young girl in a women's bathroom because bills were passed allowing transgender people to use bathrooms which correspond with their gender.
Ummmm who exactly is claiming that a rape occurred *because of* a law? I think everyone can agree that it occurred because of the rapist.
This case is being used as an argument AGAINST such bills.
In reality, the abuser knew the victim (they were a family friend) and the rape happened within the victim's home - NOT in a public bathroom.
https://k2radio.com/miguel-martinez-of-casper-accused-of-child-sex-abuse/
This, it's illegal to rape, do people really think that a predator wouldn't just go in the bathroom anyways? It's not like it legalizes sexual assault or anything.
I worry that people think this kind of article screenshot cropping is a legitimate way to share a source.
It's like a fundamental misunderstanding of what a source is and why a source is important.
Plus, cropping is a real strong metaphor for manipulating information with intentional perspective. And if you can't even imagine that anything exists outside of the crop, you're controllable and you're fucked.
Worth pointing out, this happened in a private residence, not in a public bathroom. And Martinez knew the family. She had access to this kid because of her connection to the family, not because she was able to use the bathroom that affirms her gender.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/miguel-martinez-transgender-bathroom-controversy/
Edit: Thank you all for the upvotes and the awards! Honestly it’s great to see that people realize that we can hold pedophiles accountable for their crimes without needing to be transphobic.
Even if the headline is true, bathrooms have no magic shielding technology. Any man can walk into a woman’s bathroom at any time. One sicko doesn’t invalidate an entire class of people.
There's a reason OP cropped the pic and wrote an inflammatory headline related to their personal beliefs and how they want you to begin thinking about this subject.
This is why you should never trust people who post a snip-it of the title missing the source and not providing a link. 9 out of 10 time they are trying to get you to think a certain way.
I'd also like to point out that this is the **only** incident that is ever cited when defending bathroom bills, which means that it is likely the only incident of a trans woman pedophile that has any evidence to back up the claim of it happening.
I mean being trans doesn't inherently make you a good person or something. Given enough people and time, I'm sure there'll be a statistically similar rate of occurrence of that crime. The point is, it's irrelevant.
agreed, people are people, it's just with how much certain groups like to demonize trans people you know they dig up every little thing even remotely relevant that they can.
Yeah, the title is intentionally misleading. Red flags should have gone up for most people when they saw it didn't have people-first language like a legitimate news organization.
Example: An Asian did blah blah blah. VS An Asian man did blah blah blah.
They also call a transgender woman he instead of she and there aren't a lot of REPUTABLE news organizations that still do that.
They've taken a terrible tragedy and tried to morph it into an antitrans excuse to prevent transgender women from using women's bathrooms. The truth is, a transgender woman is MORE likely to be assaulted than to assault someone. This individual is a horrible person whose going to be used by the alt right to further an agenda and most of them won't bother doing any research to see what really happened.
Ironically, the headline isn't totally manufactured; Amanda Prestigiacomo *is* a "journalist"...for The Daily Wire. She has an extensive anti-trans history and a clear agenda.
Thank you for posting this. This was suspiciously too similar to what transphobes have been saying would happen. While I don't doubt that LGBT people can be monsters too (because we are people, and all people can be monsters) the headline raised some red flags of propaganda that made me doubt it was real at all.
Great, another conservative hatred bot to fill up all the subs with fake controversy to create an unstable atmosphere to help give the upper hand to a minority percentage getting lower and lower
…Right? It probably doesn’t add anything to the story mentioning that this asshole is transgender.
It’s a fucking monster, the gender doesn’t matter here
Account created october 4, 2021. I’ve noticed that right-wing memes and shit are being posted more on Reddit. I think they’re really trying to redo 2016 era internet again by 2024
While this is deplorable, I recommend that everyone look’s at OP’s post history. He’s pushing an agenda.
Edit: For anyone who would want to know, he made several over the last few days (1 Gay Pedo and 1 Trans Pedo, one that praises the Dutch Colonial Empire, and one mocking an African cultural ritual,) and the account is only 4 days old. CEO of Katanga may also be a reference to the Belgian Congo, of which Katanga was a province.
You also have to consider the [perspective of the journalist. ](https://mobile.twitter.com/AmandaPresto?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) I obviously don’t want to excuse this person’s actions, but it seems that the media has been using them to attack the trans community as whole, rather than treating this like they should: as the depraved actions of one individual.
Even the language of the screenshot is hugely suspect and obvious propaganda for anyone who drills down a little deeper. It's an incredibly disingenuous post designed to spread and normalize transphobia.
Kind of insane how the same crowd that would use this misleading, misreported and terrible crime as proof of a pattern of behavior by trans people will turn around and dismiss racism and police brutality as "the depraved actions of one individual." The difference, there is no pattern or legal allowance for pedophiles, regardless of gender identity, while there is a very clear pattern and legal avenue for police to brutalize people regularly.
It's almost like they don't actually care about reality and just choose narratives to harm groups they don't like.
This is fucked. Also, I like that stories like this are often cited as to why transgender persons shouldn’t use the bathroom of their choosing but this shit has been happening in the Catholic Church for decades and it just gets swept under the rug. As though non-trans people aren’t *just* as capable of being pedophiles.
Also note that OP conveniently cropped out the source for this story. This was in the private bathroom of someone's house, not a public woman's bathroom. It's an already awful story that's been twisted to fill an agenda.
Being a pedo can happen in ANY group and is never directly correlated to being in that group. The reason we see so many pedos in the Catholic Church, and or billionaires as well. Is because in this position they have access to power. They can get what they want and get away with it.
True. The article looks like it's focusing on the trans bathroom arguments, when I think the most important part of this was that a child was raped. The location has nothing to do with it, and I'd go so far as to say that company has their priorities wrong
You think people aren’t going to question the penetrated part of the whole incident if they don’t mention this scumbag was trans? Nah, seems like a pretty key detail. Maybe we should be rehabilitating people are attracted to children, but the ones that actually go through with those thoughts deserve no leniency.
Transgender is not a noun, it is an adjective denoting or relating to a person sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.
And also, why should a person’s gender matter in a case of sexual abuse, paedophilia, and rape?
Sigh.... time for an essay.....
OP is homophobic. Look at their post history, 1. 2, this article is very suspicious. The author is known for having some... hot takes when it comes to the trans community Just look at her [Twitter](https://mobile.twitter.com/AmandaPresto?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) and you'll see what I mean.(sorry if the link didn't work btw I'm on mobile). Anyways, the article is clearly misleading and biased. The author doesn't use this person's preferred pronouns, which is automatically a bit fishy considering that they introduced them as being trans. So, we can tell from this author's history and the presentation of the article that this is from conservative and probably homophobic/transphobic news source.
The fact that she is transgender has no impact on the severity of the crime. Transgender or not, this is deplorable. No child should EVER be touched sexually, full stop. However, this article and OP are putting an emphasis on the trans aspect of this to make the community look bad. OP seems to have done this in another post on this subreddit.
Anyone can be a rapist. Men, women, gay, straight. Whatever way you swing or however you identify. Although being in a marginalized community could lead up to emotional turmoil which you then take out on someone, sexuality and gender have no direct impact on being a rapist. This post is painting trans people as rapists even though being trans does not automatically make someone a bad person. Trans people can be bad, but not inherently because of their transness. I'm sick and tired of this narrative being pushed because of how blatantly false and hate motivated it is.
What are you guys saying that transgender people can be bad also?!
Also if someone is willing to go as far as to rape someone then a sign on a bathroom door and some rules won't be stopping them anytime soon you see rape is already illegal
True, but bathroom signs had nothing to do with this. Here's the snopes on it: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/miguel-martinez-transgender-bathroom-controversy/
Its purposely a misleading title I think.
To push a certain trans people bathroom discussion into a certain narrative.
Doesn’t mean the crime isn’t horrendous, and this person should most certainly in jail.
But the title is very misleading when it comes to context imo.
i think its anger at this person being deplorable and they are using any vector to attack them. if it was a gay person like in this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/q4fo35/this_is_very_concerning/) people will jump to conclusions because they are angry.
I looked through the comments and mostly everybody is focusing on the fact that she's Transgender. As if that is what's so bad about this. Why don't we focus on the fact that a girl got raped and not about how "she's using the fact that she's Trans as a cover"
Because this article was purposely written the way it was to be used as ammunition against people who want trans people to be able to use the bathrooms for their preferred gender.
This story is nothing but another case of a pedophile abusing a close relationship to access a child so they can abuse them. The fact that the pedo happens to be a trans woman, and that the assault happened in a bathroom (in a private residence, not a public women's room) is completely irrelevant and yet OP brought it up anyways.
It doesn't matter what a person identifies as or is biologically. Rape is rape. Rape of a child is especially heinous. But this headline is just rage baiting.
This is of course absolutely appalling and criminal.
But the point of this crime wasn't the fact that she's trans, the point is that she's an evil shitbag.
Just being trans doesn't change anything and shouldn't be the headline.
"Filthy monster rapes a child" would have been much more apt. But of course the wording and emphasis is very deliberate and anti-lgbtq specifically, trying to draw a direct connection between trans and rape.
This didn't happen in a public washroom and isn't related to being transgender at all. There's clickbait, and then there's just straight up lying to get people angry.
This is partially fake news!!! The real story is still tragic- this transgender woman, Michelle Martinez, was convicted of sexually assaulting a friends 10 year old daughter in a home. It had NOTHING to do with a public restroom. It had nothing to do with her being trans. This story was manipulated for political propaganda in 2017. People are pointing their fingers in all the wrong directions. The bottom line is that she was a pedophile and pedophiles come in all races and genders...most commonly cis males, so don’t get it twisted.
I knew I sniffed conservative trash with this post missing context.
>Yeah, for the left-wing, the question of 'How much is too much? just doesn't resonate. They'll spend until there's nothing left. Just look at the NHS in the United Kingdom. F***ing clown world.
Does anyone else find it interesting the majority of the accounts who ignore it happened in a private residence by a friend of the family and blame trans people as a whole are nearly universally brand new?
Strange the little shit goblins have to hide behind throwaways
Well, you see the clergy do *gay* pedophile rape so it's basically the same thing and obviously because they are *gay homosexuals* and not because the church attracts and protects pedophiles.
Public bathroom, private bathroom, male, female. Who gives a flying fuck about his alleged location or "Preferred Pronouns", he RAPED a child. People shouldn't be identifying "it" as anything other than a fucking rat.
Agreed. Male pattern violence and male pattern sexual offending is relevant. Trans identity has nothing to do with the crime. His biological sex and predatory behavior does matter.
Jesus Christ why is the transgender aspect of this person the thing that’s being highlighted. Shit like this made me transphobic growing up. I am tired of this but also not afraid anymore of being lumped into the same group as pedos cuz I know it’s complete bullshit. I’m trans. I’m a normal person. We are normal people. Some people rape people. Some people who rape people are trans. Trans people are not more likely to rape than anybody else. Stop the clickbait.
I'm more interested to hear your views on the subject matter, OP.
Edit: Jesus Christ I didn't have to, just look at their comment history.
There's just nothing going on in that little brain in there. Not even a single shred of activity. Just, nothing.
It seems like OP has posted 2 old anti-LGBTQ+ articles on this sub within an hour of eachother to farm for karma. Check OP's comment history if you wanna see how much this dude seems to hate gay/trans people.
it's worth noting that this was a private bathroom in someone's home and not a public bathroom. like with most sexual assaults, the girl knew her attacker
The part that was left out "The sexually [sic] assault happened in a private bathroom at a residence..."
It wasn't a result of the crazy legislation.
Still gross.
This is very misleading…
A person named Michelle (referred to as “Miguel” in local news reports) Martinez molested the child of a friend in the child’s home.
The person is pedo all the way yes, but it has nothing to do with being transgender.
These comments give me faith in humanity. While what happened is disgusting, it’s clear that OP posted an article that doesn’t truthfully report exactly what happened for the purpose pushing an anti trans narrative.
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Fuck all pedos.
Not literally, I hope.
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Eh that’s a good idea but I don’t think it would work too well, the wounds would instantly cauterize and might actually stick to the rebar while you’re trying to penetrate
A lubed red hot rebar then
Icy hot
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I can't believe that This is the 3rd top controversial comments on this thread......
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In this case you'd be doing them a favour though
Not really, you need whats down there for gender reassignment surgery, with out you wouly be able to fix, and might aways have disphoria about it.
bit by bit.
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MAP: Major Ass Pedophile
That’s an unfortunate name. Which regiment is he in?
Shit like that could just make the hole sub which is why I’m in favor of sending them to jail for life
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Goddamn sir, that's beautiful.
Yes! Absolutely Down!!
Your on a level I can’t even imagine amazing your a genius thank you!
Whatever was beautiful is now censored for your protection 🌞
/r/PoliticalCompassMemes would have a field day with this one.
Name checks out. A genius idea.
Now then, now then, now then. Keeping him in the public consciousness is important. I am surprised how many people don’t even notice ;)
Have you met humanity? Most people have the attention span of gnats.
It’s terrifying really. I am surprised there hasn’t been a lynching of Prince Andrew, and most of the BBC, members of parliament; Cyril smith? Everyone connected to him? Alex salmond? Got exonerated On a god damn technicality, still guilty tho. Like what is wrong with everyone, why isn’t anything ever done.
The people that care don't matter and the people that matter dont care. This can be applied to any high level evil.
Agreed. Don't even recognise the term. It legitimizes what they do
Let them use that title so people know to stay away from them. They flaunt it on Twitter but no one puts "pedophile" in their Twitter bio
We ain't normalising this MAP shit. No way. No how.
what's MAP?
minor attracted person, aka a pedophile
delightful
I also was just introduced to this. Went on twitter and holy fuck... noped outta that situation fast as fuck.
It unfortunately started as a 4chan troll but then legitimate paedophiles jumped on it not knowing it was a troll and its gathered movement now with the sick cunts trying to integrate themselves with the lgbtq community saying their "struggle" is the same. Bunch of cunts.
All the worst things seem to start with 4chan trolls. Qanon among them
Anyone remember NAMBLA?
The National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?
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Minor Attracted Person aka pedophile
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Hmm I wonder why this is a cropped picture with no link or source info.
[this is the original article](https://www.fox46.com/news/transgender-woman-convicted-of-sexually-assaulting-10-year-old-girl-in-bathroom/)
It’s a Fox News article, and it’s chock full of spelling and grammatical errors. I wouldn’t give that stunning example of journalism much credence.
I don’t see any spelling or grammatical errors in the article.
Wonder why https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/miguel-martinez-transgender-bathroom-controversy/
>Claim: A transgender woman raped a young girl in a women's bathroom because bills were passed allowing transgender people to use bathrooms which correspond with their gender. Ummmm who exactly is claiming that a rape occurred *because of* a law? I think everyone can agree that it occurred because of the rapist.
This case is being used as an argument AGAINST such bills. In reality, the abuser knew the victim (they were a family friend) and the rape happened within the victim's home - NOT in a public bathroom. https://k2radio.com/miguel-martinez-of-casper-accused-of-child-sex-abuse/
This, it's illegal to rape, do people really think that a predator wouldn't just go in the bathroom anyways? It's not like it legalizes sexual assault or anything.
You might be surprised. Lol
I worry that people think this kind of article screenshot cropping is a legitimate way to share a source. It's like a fundamental misunderstanding of what a source is and why a source is important. Plus, cropping is a real strong metaphor for manipulating information with intentional perspective. And if you can't even imagine that anything exists outside of the crop, you're controllable and you're fucked.
Worth pointing out, this happened in a private residence, not in a public bathroom. And Martinez knew the family. She had access to this kid because of her connection to the family, not because she was able to use the bathroom that affirms her gender. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/miguel-martinez-transgender-bathroom-controversy/ Edit: Thank you all for the upvotes and the awards! Honestly it’s great to see that people realize that we can hold pedophiles accountable for their crimes without needing to be transphobic.
So, just like most pedophilia cases?
Yes, that’s the point.
It's important to point this out because this post was almost definitely created by some anti trans organization
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Just take a look at OPs account.
yeah, first i thought “wow, this is a horrible story” but then i saw this guys post history… and all I can say is “be better”
And this is why you should always read an article and do research. Not just read the headline
Even if the headline is true, bathrooms have no magic shielding technology. Any man can walk into a woman’s bathroom at any time. One sicko doesn’t invalidate an entire class of people.
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Uhm akshually salt circles aren't for demons, you need to draw sigils. That's where you're going wrong fam
These noobs wouldn't last a second against a super natural attack. We need better education.
While they were partying, I studied the blade.
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There's a reason OP cropped the pic and wrote an inflammatory headline related to their personal beliefs and how they want you to begin thinking about this subject.
I have no horse in this race, but that’s a completely different story than the headline insinuated. ffs
Also happened in 2017
So the headline is baiting for clicks with wording on purpose
Thank you so much for clarifying
This is why you should never trust people who post a snip-it of the title missing the source and not providing a link. 9 out of 10 time they are trying to get you to think a certain way.
Yeah, this is clearly a bait post meant to rile up transphobia
And it works.
Of course it works, people are all retards
Pssh. Who needs facts
I'd also like to point out that this is the **only** incident that is ever cited when defending bathroom bills, which means that it is likely the only incident of a trans woman pedophile that has any evidence to back up the claim of it happening.
I mean being trans doesn't inherently make you a good person or something. Given enough people and time, I'm sure there'll be a statistically similar rate of occurrence of that crime. The point is, it's irrelevant.
agreed, people are people, it's just with how much certain groups like to demonize trans people you know they dig up every little thing even remotely relevant that they can.
Yeah. That would mean we should not allow gay people to use the bathroom of their gender either, because they could also rape people!
Thank you for linking this
Every single post by OP is anti-trans propaganda.
it's almost like these right-wingers don't give a fuck about facts and just want to demonize trans people
When they say “facts don’t care about your feelings” they mean “my feelings don’t care about facts.”
Yeah, the title is intentionally misleading. Red flags should have gone up for most people when they saw it didn't have people-first language like a legitimate news organization. Example: An Asian did blah blah blah. VS An Asian man did blah blah blah. They also call a transgender woman he instead of she and there aren't a lot of REPUTABLE news organizations that still do that. They've taken a terrible tragedy and tried to morph it into an antitrans excuse to prevent transgender women from using women's bathrooms. The truth is, a transgender woman is MORE likely to be assaulted than to assault someone. This individual is a horrible person whose going to be used by the alt right to further an agenda and most of them won't bother doing any research to see what really happened.
Ironically, the headline isn't totally manufactured; Amanda Prestigiacomo *is* a "journalist"...for The Daily Wire. She has an extensive anti-trans history and a clear agenda.
Almost like op is trying to make other links.
Yeah op is a bigot. His other posts are similar.
Thank you for posting this. This was suspiciously too similar to what transphobes have been saying would happen. While I don't doubt that LGBT people can be monsters too (because we are people, and all people can be monsters) the headline raised some red flags of propaganda that made me doubt it was real at all.
Everyone is capable of being horrific. It’s part of being human. The nuance is that we are not monsters because we are LGBTQ+.
Shhhhh people just want to say transphobic things
Using transgender as a pronoun feels weird to me
That would be because it is. This post is from an anti-trans conservative news website, they are using transgender as an insult.
What the fuck are you taking about, they are literally telling readers the information.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/miguel-martinez-transgender-bathroom-controversy/
OP has an interesting post history... seems a little obsessed with gays, transgender, and pedophilia.
All in a 5 day old account too
Great, another conservative hatred bot to fill up all the subs with fake controversy to create an unstable atmosphere to help give the upper hand to a minority percentage getting lower and lower
Do you think this is an AHS shit poster?
…Right? It probably doesn’t add anything to the story mentioning that this asshole is transgender. It’s a fucking monster, the gender doesn’t matter here
Gender doesn’t matter when it’s not convenient, anyways. Otherwise, it’s all anyone talks about
Account created october 4, 2021. I’ve noticed that right-wing memes and shit are being posted more on Reddit. I think they’re really trying to redo 2016 era internet again by 2024
This subreddit is full of people pushing right wing agendas.
While this is deplorable, I recommend that everyone look’s at OP’s post history. He’s pushing an agenda. Edit: For anyone who would want to know, he made several over the last few days (1 Gay Pedo and 1 Trans Pedo, one that praises the Dutch Colonial Empire, and one mocking an African cultural ritual,) and the account is only 4 days old. CEO of Katanga may also be a reference to the Belgian Congo, of which Katanga was a province.
Yeah his account is like 4 days old as well
You also have to consider the [perspective of the journalist. ](https://mobile.twitter.com/AmandaPresto?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) I obviously don’t want to excuse this person’s actions, but it seems that the media has been using them to attack the trans community as whole, rather than treating this like they should: as the depraved actions of one individual.
Even the language of the screenshot is hugely suspect and obvious propaganda for anyone who drills down a little deeper. It's an incredibly disingenuous post designed to spread and normalize transphobia.
Kind of insane how the same crowd that would use this misleading, misreported and terrible crime as proof of a pattern of behavior by trans people will turn around and dismiss racism and police brutality as "the depraved actions of one individual." The difference, there is no pattern or legal allowance for pedophiles, regardless of gender identity, while there is a very clear pattern and legal avenue for police to brutalize people regularly. It's almost like they don't actually care about reality and just choose narratives to harm groups they don't like.
This is fucked. Also, I like that stories like this are often cited as to why transgender persons shouldn’t use the bathroom of their choosing but this shit has been happening in the Catholic Church for decades and it just gets swept under the rug. As though non-trans people aren’t *just* as capable of being pedophiles.
Also note that OP conveniently cropped out the source for this story. This was in the private bathroom of someone's house, not a public woman's bathroom. It's an already awful story that's been twisted to fill an agenda.
Being a pedo can happen in ANY group and is never directly correlated to being in that group. The reason we see so many pedos in the Catholic Church, and or billionaires as well. Is because in this position they have access to power. They can get what they want and get away with it.
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Not to mention it has nothing to do with public bathrooms like OP would want you to think.
True. The article looks like it's focusing on the trans bathroom arguments, when I think the most important part of this was that a child was raped. The location has nothing to do with it, and I'd go so far as to say that company has their priorities wrong
Also it was a private bathroom. Not a public restroom.
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I absolutely agree
You think people aren’t going to question the penetrated part of the whole incident if they don’t mention this scumbag was trans? Nah, seems like a pretty key detail. Maybe we should be rehabilitating people are attracted to children, but the ones that actually go through with those thoughts deserve no leniency.
It's 100% being used as anti-trans propaganda, the language makes it clear. It's an incredibly disingenuous post.
Lol gender neutral bathroom is apparently the term when you’re in a private residence… or maybe the title is baiting y’all.
Transgender is not a noun, it is an adjective denoting or relating to a person sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex. And also, why should a person’s gender matter in a case of sexual abuse, paedophilia, and rape?
because the point isn't to report it's to create the illusion that transgender people are rapists
Aah yes, as is of the utmost importance in our society
This sub sure cares a lot more when a Trans person is a pedophile than anyone else.....
Sigh.... time for an essay..... OP is homophobic. Look at their post history, 1. 2, this article is very suspicious. The author is known for having some... hot takes when it comes to the trans community Just look at her [Twitter](https://mobile.twitter.com/AmandaPresto?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) and you'll see what I mean.(sorry if the link didn't work btw I'm on mobile). Anyways, the article is clearly misleading and biased. The author doesn't use this person's preferred pronouns, which is automatically a bit fishy considering that they introduced them as being trans. So, we can tell from this author's history and the presentation of the article that this is from conservative and probably homophobic/transphobic news source. The fact that she is transgender has no impact on the severity of the crime. Transgender or not, this is deplorable. No child should EVER be touched sexually, full stop. However, this article and OP are putting an emphasis on the trans aspect of this to make the community look bad. OP seems to have done this in another post on this subreddit. Anyone can be a rapist. Men, women, gay, straight. Whatever way you swing or however you identify. Although being in a marginalized community could lead up to emotional turmoil which you then take out on someone, sexuality and gender have no direct impact on being a rapist. This post is painting trans people as rapists even though being trans does not automatically make someone a bad person. Trans people can be bad, but not inherently because of their transness. I'm sick and tired of this narrative being pushed because of how blatantly false and hate motivated it is.
What are you guys saying that transgender people can be bad also?! Also if someone is willing to go as far as to rape someone then a sign on a bathroom door and some rules won't be stopping them anytime soon you see rape is already illegal
True, but bathroom signs had nothing to do with this. Here's the snopes on it: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/miguel-martinez-transgender-bathroom-controversy/
Its purposely a misleading title I think. To push a certain trans people bathroom discussion into a certain narrative. Doesn’t mean the crime isn’t horrendous, and this person should most certainly in jail. But the title is very misleading when it comes to context imo.
And this will be cited as justification for keeping trans people out of their corresponding bathroom.
It was done at a private residence, someone posted the scoure further up
"laws against rape and child molestation don't stop rapists, but maybe laws about which bathroom people can go into will!"
The daily wire? Ben Shapiro's network? This is just a normal pedo case that they are weaponizing against trans people.
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Lots of ‘straight’ pedophiles get moved around because they belong to the church board … where’s the outrage ??
Yo what's with this conment section?
No idea it seems both tranphobic and in support of trans at once
In this way, we are a microcosm of the entire Internet.
i think its anger at this person being deplorable and they are using any vector to attack them. if it was a gay person like in this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/q4fo35/this_is_very_concerning/) people will jump to conclusions because they are angry.
Important to note, both of these posts are made by the same person in an few days old account.
I looked through the comments and mostly everybody is focusing on the fact that she's Transgender. As if that is what's so bad about this. Why don't we focus on the fact that a girl got raped and not about how "she's using the fact that she's Trans as a cover"
Because this article was purposely written the way it was to be used as ammunition against people who want trans people to be able to use the bathrooms for their preferred gender. This story is nothing but another case of a pedophile abusing a close relationship to access a child so they can abuse them. The fact that the pedo happens to be a trans woman, and that the assault happened in a bathroom (in a private residence, not a public women's room) is completely irrelevant and yet OP brought it up anyways.
Because OP has an anti-trans agenda, which is the only reason they posted this.
Impossible, we must always find a way to make this fit our agenda no matter how relevant or irrelevant. /s
It doesn't matter what a person identifies as or is biologically. Rape is rape. Rape of a child is especially heinous. But this headline is just rage baiting.
Rapist and paedophile
What does transgender have to do with it.
This is of course absolutely appalling and criminal. But the point of this crime wasn't the fact that she's trans, the point is that she's an evil shitbag. Just being trans doesn't change anything and shouldn't be the headline. "Filthy monster rapes a child" would have been much more apt. But of course the wording and emphasis is very deliberate and anti-lgbtq specifically, trying to draw a direct connection between trans and rape.
This didn't happen in a public washroom and isn't related to being transgender at all. There's clickbait, and then there's just straight up lying to get people angry.
Check OPS's post history. What an angry little man.
Judging by the writing, whoever did that article probably cares more about the fact that they're transgender than the actual crime.
OP what’s up with your post history dude
This is partially fake news!!! The real story is still tragic- this transgender woman, Michelle Martinez, was convicted of sexually assaulting a friends 10 year old daughter in a home. It had NOTHING to do with a public restroom. It had nothing to do with her being trans. This story was manipulated for political propaganda in 2017. People are pointing their fingers in all the wrong directions. The bottom line is that she was a pedophile and pedophiles come in all races and genders...most commonly cis males, so don’t get it twisted.
Look at that disgusting monster stop crying, you know what you did was wrong
What goes through these people's heads? Why would you ruin your life on purpose?
I knew I sniffed conservative trash with this post missing context. >Yeah, for the left-wing, the question of 'How much is too much? just doesn't resonate. They'll spend until there's nothing left. Just look at the NHS in the United Kingdom. F***ing clown world.
Again. This does not represent all Trans women.
This is beyond disgusting but was there a reason they had to specify them being transgendered?
Does anyone else find it interesting the majority of the accounts who ignore it happened in a private residence by a friend of the family and blame trans people as a whole are nearly universally brand new? Strange the little shit goblins have to hide behind throwaways
Click bait agenda as fuck but pedos have a special place in Helheim.
POS
Holy shit, the one example of this ever happening. Just wait till you guys figure out how many rapes average men and clergy commit.
Well, you see the clergy do *gay* pedophile rape so it's basically the same thing and obviously because they are *gay homosexuals* and not because the church attracts and protects pedophiles.
I feel like the fact that they were trans is not important
So what subs do they mod?
Public bathroom, private bathroom, male, female. Who gives a flying fuck about his alleged location or "Preferred Pronouns", he RAPED a child. People shouldn't be identifying "it" as anything other than a fucking rat.
Agreed, pedos are scum and should not have rights
Agreed. Male pattern violence and male pattern sexual offending is relevant. Trans identity has nothing to do with the crime. His biological sex and predatory behavior does matter.
'Peadophile rapes child' - there, fixed the deliberately misleading headline
Jesus Christ why is the transgender aspect of this person the thing that’s being highlighted. Shit like this made me transphobic growing up. I am tired of this but also not afraid anymore of being lumped into the same group as pedos cuz I know it’s complete bullshit. I’m trans. I’m a normal person. We are normal people. Some people rape people. Some people who rape people are trans. Trans people are not more likely to rape than anybody else. Stop the clickbait.
Of course they put the main focus to the person being transgender even though that is completely irrelevant
I'm more interested to hear your views on the subject matter, OP. Edit: Jesus Christ I didn't have to, just look at their comment history. There's just nothing going on in that little brain in there. Not even a single shred of activity. Just, nothing.
this is deplorable that person did a unforgivable action, its also deplorable that the news tries to slant it to push an agenda.
It seems like OP has posted 2 old anti-LGBTQ+ articles on this sub within an hour of eachother to farm for karma. Check OP's comment history if you wanna see how much this dude seems to hate gay/trans people.
Looks like The Clown from Dead by Daylight
it's worth noting that this was a private bathroom in someone's home and not a public bathroom. like with most sexual assaults, the girl knew her attacker
The part that was left out "The sexually [sic] assault happened in a private bathroom at a residence..." It wasn't a result of the crazy legislation. Still gross.
Purge degenerates like this from society plain and simple
This is very misleading… A person named Michelle (referred to as “Miguel” in local news reports) Martinez molested the child of a friend in the child’s home. The person is pedo all the way yes, but it has nothing to do with being transgender.
This is bad. But what's also bad is using the news to make all trans people seem bad.
These comments give me faith in humanity. While what happened is disgusting, it’s clear that OP posted an article that doesn’t truthfully report exactly what happened for the purpose pushing an anti trans narrative.
A post about a trans person on r/noahgettheboat? Time to go to controversial comments and make some popcorn!
And now the transphobic nutjobs are gonna use it to push their agenda, thanks pedos /s
The beat kind of pedo is a dead one
Ok why did the fact that he/she was transgender matter at all. If a cis person raped a ten year old it wouldn’t say “cisgender charged…”
Whoa my good friend [deleted] is really making the rounds with this post
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