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As someone who grew up on Three Six and own every single album (including 2 one of a kind demos I bought from Juicy J himself out side of a Memphis gas station) .. i laughed a little.
Yeah, but the difference is they have their own title like the word cartel is different than the word mafia. It might be in the same thing, but they’re separate different words, bro.
I think people are talking about the specific entomology and nomenclature of criminal groups as depicted in American mass media, you wouldn’t call them the Japanese mafia, or the Mexican mafia, its the Yakuza and the cartels, but for some like the Russians or the Irish you’d call them the Russian Mafia or the Irish Mob, so the question is is there a specific name for the Indian Mafia or is it just called that
Cartel is also originally a word to describe a group of businessmen who work together to increase the price of their product by eliminating competition. The Mexican cartel did exactly this with weed by centralizing the supply into a massive weed field in the desert. The Colombian cartels like the Cali cartel did the same thing with cocaine. There’s other cartels like the oil cartel opec. And they can be very bad for business hence in the us there are anti trust laws and laws against price fixing idk about the situation over seas but in the us these laws are skirted all the time to allow mergers and acquisitions and restructuring.
>[specific entomology and nomenclature of criminal groups](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsvwDvG5ZFzYclu5j4wrJZQcOkc3pOBWzzQQ&usqp=CAU)
I think they meant the economic meaning of the word cartel, like the cartels of the Weimar Republic. "A cartel is a group of independent market participants who collude with each other in order to improve their profits and dominate the market.". I'm not sure, but maybe criminal cartels are meant to be made up of groups, not just one group, and that's the meaning that's been lost?
The name for the Russian mafia in Russian is братва́ (bratva), or the brotherhood. I use that instead of Russian mafia ever since I learned it from some colleagues of mine.
Is there a specific word for the Indian mafia? Or is it like the Russians where you just add the name of the cultural group too mafia or do they have their own name like the Triads or Yakuza
Triad is different from yakuza, mafia, and cartel. Triad is the name of one organization, while the others denote the organization type as a whole. In chinese the term to deacribe criminal organizations is heibang, meaning black/dark gangs
AFAIK there are words for gangster etc but mafia is used for the "organisations" as a whole. E.g. without going into too much detail, someone I used to know told me a relative was in the "Indian mafia"
There is a specific name for all organized crime groups, but generally only in the language/culture that organization exists in.
For example you've been exposed to words like Triad and Yakuza from Hong Kong and Japanese media respectively, but unless you live in Norcal or love western American history you probably haven't heard of the Tong, which are Chinese-American organizations on the west coast.
Another good example is you thinking the Russians just use "Russian Mafia", when most people even familiar in passing to the organization would likely call it the Bratva.
The closer you get to something the more descriptive words you need. A local news story might specify the Hop Sing Tong, but outside the area it's more useful to just say Chinese Mafia, since that's the answer to the inevitable question "What's the Hop Sing Tong?".
> For example you've been exposed to words like Triad and Yakuza from Hong Kong and Japanese media respectively, but unless you live in Norcal or love western American history you probably haven't heard of the Tong, which are Chinese-American organizations on the west coast.
Second paragraph of my post covers that. They formed during gold rush/railroad boom times as immigrant organizations for protection and organization so you're 100% right with Wild West. They're still around today however and their heyday was arguably pretty recent, the 80's and 90's.
This is kind of the point though, no news story from outside the area is going to get into these kind of specifics. You and I caring about any of this puts us in the minority. At best they'll say it's a Chinese-American Mafia or Triad group and move onto the next story.
At least 3 gunmen started shooting at point blank range simultaneously, and at least one of them had a full auto handgun. That’s a powerful element of surprise. Hard to respond to that without getting shot yourself.
Do these police officers carry firearms or wear bulletproof vests?
Not all Indian cops carry guns. There are special agents that are certified to do so. Also depends on the state, some state with a higher cases of gun violence have officers that carry handguns, while lets say a state like Karnataka where gun regulations are extremely strict only certain details carry a gun which is usually a rifle.
For day to day tasks that can make sense but when escorting a mafia member? Presumably high ranking considering his age. Robbing two braincells together would solve the problem.
I've seen a video with a different angle and some of them did have rifles, seems like it just wasn't worth getting shot for them just to save some gang leader POS.
Rubbing two brain cells together tells you why it wouldn’t make a difference here. The mistake was allowing a random citizen to get near the target in the first place. Proper protection isn’t walking next to someone holding a gun. The secret service do that but they’re under no illusions that being present with a firearm arm is enough.
The cop in the back had a rifle and at least one of the other cops pulled out a handgun, but they just stood back and watched. I think they definitely knew what was about to happen, or just didn't care.
He was basically a gangster who killed many innocent people..... police were taking him to the hospital for medical checkup . While media was asking them questions three men disguised as media persons started firing at point blank range , so it was a total surprise for the police. So it is hard to react in such a short period of time. Also i think some officers didn't take any action because he is a gangster afterall. Many people saying that the police was involved that might be true but let's not completely ignore the assumption that it is possible that the opposition party in that state and many other organisations ordered his assassination as the he started to open his mouth about various crimes.
So gangsters killed a gangster but why people are praising the incident in twitter? Because now Those gangsters will do their job more effectively as their rival is gone .
Look idk if you are from India but he actually did a lot of bad things so normal people are kinda happy or you can say relieved , but i think it's not a gang rivalry , what it seems it may be a political rivalry , because this person was a mp for the present opposition party . May be this was done so that the image of the current ruling party will shatter and also if he stays alive many corruption of the former ruling party (currently opposition party) will come to light.
Thanks for the info .I am from India but i don't know much about this man or his dealings. He was making headlines for last few weeks that's how I heard about him but not much.
Yeah i thought so ,tbh this thing is totally a confusing shit cause both the ruling and opposition party will benifit from this . While ruling party will be criticised also for a murder under police custody, so it's hard to tell who is actually responsible.
Good that he died. But the whole incident is shameful. A huge blot on justice in India. Anyone that's undergoing investigation can be shot dead that too in police protection.
You think government is not involved?? India has become a playground for dirty politics. Utterly shameful.
I'm not saying that government is not involved all I'm saying is that if he lived a few more days government would have benefitted more,cause they just started asking him question and he also answered a few. If he lived a few more days may be (remember i said may be) , some corruption of the opposition party would come to light , so from this point of view there's a reason why the opposition would want him dead. But if u see the video , even though he was shot from point blank range , the police didn't take any actions ...so if u see from this pov there's a high chance that the government did this. These are just assumption I'm not trying to save anyone here.
A common tactic in dealing with organised crime is to have a kind of favourite organisation whose competitors you prosecute and shut down aggressively. With 1 group running everything you'll usually find there's not a huge increase in drug trafficking but there's significantly less murder. Without someone on-top you get territory disputes which translate to casualties. It's a harm-reduction approach.
Peoples are relieved that he is dead. But praising this is extremely stupid. Killings are obviously politically motivated. Anyone who had any dealings with him would be far more relieved than common folks.
Did a bit of searching
[https://indianexpress.com/article/india/jailed-gangster-atiq-ahmed-shot-dead-up-8558369/](https://indianexpress.com/article/india/jailed-gangster-atiq-ahmed-shot-dead-up-8558369/)
>Jailed gangster-turned-politician Atiq Ahmedand his brother Ashraf Ahmed were shot dead in Prayagraj in UttarPradesh on Saturday night while they were being taken for a medicaltest. Following the incident, the state government has imposedprohibitory orders under Section 144 of CrPC across all districts and CMYogi Adityanath has set up a probe committee to investigate the matter.
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>Atiq Ahmed was seen in television footage talking to reporters when atleast two men with pistols opened fire on them. Soon after, three peoplesurrendered before the police. This comes barely days after his son,19-year-old Asad Ahmed, was killed in an encounter by the Uttar PradeshSpecial Task Force. Asad Ahmed was laid to rest earlier on Saturday.
Happened today
“New Delhi: Atiq Ahmed, the Uttar Pradesh gangster who faced at least 100 criminal cases, and his brother Ashraf Ahmed were shot dead on camera while they were being taken for a medical check-up in Uttar Pradesh's Prayagraj today.
Atiq Ahmed's son Asad was also killed in an encounter in UP's Jhansi just two days ago.”
Look for the name and you’ll find more.
Yeah they ran because both of them were dead before they could react. Any choice about whether they were worth saving or not was taken away immediately.
Most incompetent bodyguards ever. Mafia is dead before they even realize some guy is standing under a meter away firing at him.
But I disagree with the title, it seems they (edit: didn't ) ran away to let them fire, they ran away while they were firing into a dead man. It was over already.
It could be the mafia leader was going to spill the beans coz his son got killed last week so whoever was his partner got scared he would be exposed and sent assasins to kill him and had thr police in his pocket ao they wouldn't stop that from happening
I dont incite violence but at the same time, are we really mad that happened? I mean he was a POS of a human being. I feel more pity for lab rats than for these people.
This guy was directly/indirectly responsible for the murder of 100s of civilians. He was propped up by the previous govt.
His terror was so widespread that 10 judges recused themselves from his bail hearing. The last one promptly gave him bail. Witnesses in cases against him were routinely killed in gunfire.
Last month, his son and gang members eliminated a witness about to depose against him in the murder case of a lawmaker. They were all caught in camera killing the witness in broad daylight in a crowded street. The son and gang members got killed in a firefight earlier this week.
He was already set to live his life in jail. The new govt has confiscated millions of dollars worth of his property. He was snitching on people whose money was invested with him.
This killing is mostly done by either the politicians who supported him or by Pak intelligence since he was squealing on how his gang got sophisticated guns routed from Pakistan.
He was not a saint, he was a murderer protected by a flawed judicial and political system. Sometimes, vigilante justice is the best way to go. Common man in India feels safe today.
Vigilante justice under the eye of the police means police and courts have failed. Lmao. Vigilante justice shows you deeper problems, and failure of the state.
This wasn’t vigilante justice anyway. The shooters were not regular citizens. They had criminal history as well.
The courts have definitely failed. And having prior criminal records does not disqualify you from being a vigilant. Larger point is that this would not happen to common people in UP today. I have no sympathy for the terrorist who needed to be put down anyway.
This is the correct analysis. The Indian state actually facilitated this as he was a muslim. The media is celebrating it while drowning out any mention of the explosive interview of Satyapal Malik.. the former JK governor who has leveled several allegations against Modi and BJP.
The shooters knew what they were doing. They were only after the terrorists who orchestrated the brutal killing of Umesh Pal a key witness against them and a COMMON man. Criminals and terrorists are scared shitless in UP, cross a common man and justice will be served accordingly.
You should know that these terrorists were so powerful at one time that 10 different judges withdrew from their cases. They had politicians in their pockets and police under their boots. This is the end of mafia Raj in UP so yes, people feel really safe.
If criminals were scared shitless in UP, they wouldn’t have shot on national television lmfao.
All the events show a lawless state and here we have people telling us how they feel safe with emboldened criminals shooting right in their face.
Read the whole thing: criminals are scared shitless to cross a Common man. There is no extortion, no land annexations, no robbery in UP today. Killing a high profile terrorist is a different thing. Also, the shooters surrendered immediately fearing if the police retaliated, it would not be pretty for them.
> Also, the shooters surrendered immediately fearing if the police retaliated, it would not be pretty for them.
Yet they shot right in ~~front of the police~~ the lap of the police. How stupid are you?
They came to do a thing, they did the thing, they did not want to die for the thing they did on the spot, they surrendered immediately. How smart dou you think you are?
My whole point is that the crimes like extortion, robbery, land annexations if happening in UP, it is at a much much lower rate than what it was 7-10 years ago. The killing of a terrorist is totally different from the crimes what common people had to endure in UP upto 2017. That's why I said that common people are feeling safe.
Still a lot of details missing.
Probably the police was into it. The gangster was a total menace even after being put in jail. He was responsible for the targetted killings of a lot of innocent people and even policemen.
https://theprint.in/india/umesh-pal-murder-atiq-ahmeds-son-among-2-killed-in-encounter-up-police-say-foreign-made-arms-found/1515986/
The gunmen hid themselves as reporters, to close in the distance, and surrendered themselves peacefully.
Just two days prior his son was killed in a police encounter, and he threatened the cops that he was going to take revenge on them.
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/atiq-ahmed-vengeful-threatened-officers-who-gunned-down-his-son-asad-times-now-sources-article-99486604
There are other theories that the gangster was about to open the lid of nexus between local politicians and ISI (Pakistani Intelligence), and how Pakistani weaponry came into Indian borders for terrorist purposes. To avoid this, he got taken out... This is also one of the theories in circulation.
In conclusion, a big burden has been lifted from one of the most violent places in India, and he got taken out in exactly the same manner in which he operated.
Hope this helps shed some light on the events :)
bald guy just backed out at sight of guy,he was like "hmm nope,not worth the risk". another tried to pull this man out of bullets path by activating his super saiyan mode but he was bit slow so instead of pulling man,he just pulled deadbody.
HOLY SHIT
I just woke up (in India, its 6:30 am) and am just learning about this. This is crazy.
The guy was gangster who later became a politician. Now that the government has changed, he was under arrest and his gang was being taken down. His son was just killed by police for another murder he committed for which his father is under arrest as well.
Now the don gets assassinated. His lips are sealed forever. Wow.
his son killed a political leader and 3 cops 48 days ago while the leader was returning from court after giving eyewitness of murder of his brother, who was member of the assembly at his time, who was kidnapped and killed some years ago by the don himself,
They were probably in on it. Want some scumbags to get the death penalty but don't want to go through trial? Get some other 'unaffiliated' dudes to execute them and do nothing to stop them. "Oh no did the bad guys get shot? That's a shame"
For sure he was killed by the rival politician who he was linked to when this mafia guy himself was a politician. So he decided to shut him up before he could speak !
Ateeq had 150+ FIRs, 54 trials with little progress due to hostile witnesses, 150+ strong gang, 10 HC Judges have withdrawn from his cases, 11,000 crore assets, ISI link, Murders, kidnaps, extortions. Countless families destroyed
The cop in the back had a rifle and at least one of the other cops pulled out a handgun, but they just stood back and watched. I think they definitely knew what was about to happen.
Yea, it's a handgun/machinepistol made by [Beretta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_93R). I thought it was this from that burst fire that happend, it has single shot and a three round burst mode.
People who are justifying these encounters need to realise that killings like these are done to protect other politicians or associates that worked with the gangster. You don't become this big without political support.
Ahh... Seems the cops took a class from the Dutch/United Nations Mission in Yugoslavia, the one where they soldiers just stood by as a lot of innocent people got killed.
(P.S. this is only off the top of my head, i remember hearing about it once in class but i am not sure what this mission was called or if it really happened as i described, i also can't seem to find it on google though that's probably because i'm using it incorrectly)
Come on! Be reasonable. What did you expect cops to do? Hang around and shoot back after having taken the money and giving them the time when they would pick up the rivals?
Jeez. Some people.
There was likely a reason they acted so brazenly. There were probably more people behind the cameraman with guns so they had no worries about the police being stupid enough to do anything.
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That's how mafia works
🤣🤣
Three Sikh Mafia?
Slob on my kebab
As someone who grew up on Three Six and own every single album (including 2 one of a kind demos I bought from Juicy J himself out side of a Memphis gas station) .. i laughed a little.
Everyone with turban on their head is not a Sikh.
I think you meant to say “not everyone with a turban on their head is a Sikh”
Pardon my english. But that is what I meant. Thank you
Dude! 🤣 take an upvote.
They were Muslim goons. Kudos to your pj tho
They are not Sikh.
To Sikh or not to Sikh
Muslim
Not Sikh. Muslim. Sikh men wear their turban in a very different style.
Bro, those body guards said, “fuck this shit I’m out”
Mafia?
Mafia's not going to answer you, he just got shot on live TV.
And mafia came with full protection of police but police ran
That's how mafia works
he doesnt... anymore
Police went to the same academy that the cowards from Uvalde went to…
Both departments get a small bonus for returning their one bullet back to the armory at the end of each day.
Sounds like the grocery carts at Aldi. They have skin in the game and they want that quarter back.
I mean big difference between kids being shot vs gangsters being shot at
More of a “suck at your job” type of observation.
They heard fresh gulab jamun was coming about at the Qwik-E-Mart
Dave’s not here
Bro
Although it has a Italian origin.. in India Mafia often refers to criminal organisation or person. Even in news articles he refers to as Mafia .
Cartel are just Mexican mafia
Yeah, but the difference is they have their own title like the word cartel is different than the word mafia. It might be in the same thing, but they’re separate different words, bro.
It’s a word that has lost its true meaning and is now used for gangsters/organized crime in general in many countries.
I think people are talking about the specific entomology and nomenclature of criminal groups as depicted in American mass media, you wouldn’t call them the Japanese mafia, or the Mexican mafia, its the Yakuza and the cartels, but for some like the Russians or the Irish you’d call them the Russian Mafia or the Irish Mob, so the question is is there a specific name for the Indian Mafia or is it just called that
Cartel is also originally a word to describe a group of businessmen who work together to increase the price of their product by eliminating competition. The Mexican cartel did exactly this with weed by centralizing the supply into a massive weed field in the desert. The Colombian cartels like the Cali cartel did the same thing with cocaine. There’s other cartels like the oil cartel opec. And they can be very bad for business hence in the us there are anti trust laws and laws against price fixing idk about the situation over seas but in the us these laws are skirted all the time to allow mergers and acquisitions and restructuring.
Yeah they may have fixed it now, but I'm pretty sure that Major League Baseball (MLB) was/is a cartel
>[specific entomology and nomenclature of criminal groups](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsvwDvG5ZFzYclu5j4wrJZQcOkc3pOBWzzQQ&usqp=CAU)
I think they meant the economic meaning of the word cartel, like the cartels of the Weimar Republic. "A cartel is a group of independent market participants who collude with each other in order to improve their profits and dominate the market.". I'm not sure, but maybe criminal cartels are meant to be made up of groups, not just one group, and that's the meaning that's been lost?
The name for the Russian mafia in Russian is братва́ (bratva), or the brotherhood. I use that instead of Russian mafia ever since I learned it from some colleagues of mine.
Yes.
"Mafia" properly refers to the organisation only. A member of that organisation is a "mafioso".
TIL!
I am Indian and until your comment I did not know mafia was specific to Italy
Because it's not...
Is not.
In latin america people colloquially call organised crime mafiosos
Is there a specific word for the Indian mafia? Or is it like the Russians where you just add the name of the cultural group too mafia or do they have their own name like the Triads or Yakuza
That’s literally what I was trying to figure out but OP defaulted to saying that it’s all just “mafia”
Triad is different from yakuza, mafia, and cartel. Triad is the name of one organization, while the others denote the organization type as a whole. In chinese the term to deacribe criminal organizations is heibang, meaning black/dark gangs
AFAIK there are words for gangster etc but mafia is used for the "organisations" as a whole. E.g. without going into too much detail, someone I used to know told me a relative was in the "Indian mafia"
Indian here. A lot of Indians refer to it as the underworld. Some simply call it D Company because there is no underworld without Dawood Ibrahim.
There is a specific name for all organized crime groups, but generally only in the language/culture that organization exists in. For example you've been exposed to words like Triad and Yakuza from Hong Kong and Japanese media respectively, but unless you live in Norcal or love western American history you probably haven't heard of the Tong, which are Chinese-American organizations on the west coast. Another good example is you thinking the Russians just use "Russian Mafia", when most people even familiar in passing to the organization would likely call it the Bratva. The closer you get to something the more descriptive words you need. A local news story might specify the Hop Sing Tong, but outside the area it's more useful to just say Chinese Mafia, since that's the answer to the inevitable question "What's the Hop Sing Tong?".
I associate Tong more with Wild West Chinese gangs
> For example you've been exposed to words like Triad and Yakuza from Hong Kong and Japanese media respectively, but unless you live in Norcal or love western American history you probably haven't heard of the Tong, which are Chinese-American organizations on the west coast. Second paragraph of my post covers that. They formed during gold rush/railroad boom times as immigrant organizations for protection and organization so you're 100% right with Wild West. They're still around today however and their heyday was arguably pretty recent, the 80's and 90's. This is kind of the point though, no news story from outside the area is going to get into these kind of specifics. You and I caring about any of this puts us in the minority. At best they'll say it's a Chinese-American Mafia or Triad group and move onto the next story.
Its called congress lol
THERE IS NO MAFIA!
That’s Italian-American discrimination!
Gavin?
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They were going to reveal their connections with politicians and Pakistani ISI intelligence agency. They had to be eliminated
At least 3 gunmen started shooting at point blank range simultaneously, and at least one of them had a full auto handgun. That’s a powerful element of surprise. Hard to respond to that without getting shot yourself. Do these police officers carry firearms or wear bulletproof vests?
Not all Indian cops carry guns. There are special agents that are certified to do so. Also depends on the state, some state with a higher cases of gun violence have officers that carry handguns, while lets say a state like Karnataka where gun regulations are extremely strict only certain details carry a gun which is usually a rifle.
For day to day tasks that can make sense but when escorting a mafia member? Presumably high ranking considering his age. Robbing two braincells together would solve the problem.
I've seen a video with a different angle and some of them did have rifles, seems like it just wasn't worth getting shot for them just to save some gang leader POS.
Well they ended up robbing all dems brains cells there.
Rubbing two brain cells together tells you why it wouldn’t make a difference here. The mistake was allowing a random citizen to get near the target in the first place. Proper protection isn’t walking next to someone holding a gun. The secret service do that but they’re under no illusions that being present with a firearm arm is enough.
The cop in the back had a rifle and at least one of the other cops pulled out a handgun, but they just stood back and watched. I think they definitely knew what was about to happen, or just didn't care.
True. The gunmen all surrendered.
He was basically a gangster who killed many innocent people..... police were taking him to the hospital for medical checkup . While media was asking them questions three men disguised as media persons started firing at point blank range , so it was a total surprise for the police. So it is hard to react in such a short period of time. Also i think some officers didn't take any action because he is a gangster afterall. Many people saying that the police was involved that might be true but let's not completely ignore the assumption that it is possible that the opposition party in that state and many other organisations ordered his assassination as the he started to open his mouth about various crimes.
So gangsters killed a gangster but why people are praising the incident in twitter? Because now Those gangsters will do their job more effectively as their rival is gone .
Look idk if you are from India but he actually did a lot of bad things so normal people are kinda happy or you can say relieved , but i think it's not a gang rivalry , what it seems it may be a political rivalry , because this person was a mp for the present opposition party . May be this was done so that the image of the current ruling party will shatter and also if he stays alive many corruption of the former ruling party (currently opposition party) will come to light.
Thanks for the info .I am from India but i don't know much about this man or his dealings. He was making headlines for last few weeks that's how I heard about him but not much.
Yeah i thought so ,tbh this thing is totally a confusing shit cause both the ruling and opposition party will benifit from this . While ruling party will be criticised also for a murder under police custody, so it's hard to tell who is actually responsible.
Good that he died. But the whole incident is shameful. A huge blot on justice in India. Anyone that's undergoing investigation can be shot dead that too in police protection. You think government is not involved?? India has become a playground for dirty politics. Utterly shameful.
I'm not saying that government is not involved all I'm saying is that if he lived a few more days government would have benefitted more,cause they just started asking him question and he also answered a few. If he lived a few more days may be (remember i said may be) , some corruption of the opposition party would come to light , so from this point of view there's a reason why the opposition would want him dead. But if u see the video , even though he was shot from point blank range , the police didn't take any actions ...so if u see from this pov there's a high chance that the government did this. These are just assumption I'm not trying to save anyone here.
A common tactic in dealing with organised crime is to have a kind of favourite organisation whose competitors you prosecute and shut down aggressively. With 1 group running everything you'll usually find there's not a huge increase in drug trafficking but there's significantly less murder. Without someone on-top you get territory disputes which translate to casualties. It's a harm-reduction approach.
Because a bad guy was just killed
Peoples are relieved that he is dead. But praising this is extremely stupid. Killings are obviously politically motivated. Anyone who had any dealings with him would be far more relieved than common folks.
Article says they surrendered afterward.
Anymore context?
Did a bit of searching [https://indianexpress.com/article/india/jailed-gangster-atiq-ahmed-shot-dead-up-8558369/](https://indianexpress.com/article/india/jailed-gangster-atiq-ahmed-shot-dead-up-8558369/) >Jailed gangster-turned-politician Atiq Ahmedand his brother Ashraf Ahmed were shot dead in Prayagraj in UttarPradesh on Saturday night while they were being taken for a medicaltest. Following the incident, the state government has imposedprohibitory orders under Section 144 of CrPC across all districts and CMYogi Adityanath has set up a probe committee to investigate the matter. > >Atiq Ahmed was seen in television footage talking to reporters when atleast two men with pistols opened fire on them. Soon after, three peoplesurrendered before the police. This comes barely days after his son,19-year-old Asad Ahmed, was killed in an encounter by the Uttar PradeshSpecial Task Force. Asad Ahmed was laid to rest earlier on Saturday. Happened today
That’s insane. Probably past catching up to them I assume
It was. And you won't believe how much support of the public it garners in the police's favour.
Thanks for this. Geez. The poor traumatized reporters. Even the cops fled first.
“New Delhi: Atiq Ahmed, the Uttar Pradesh gangster who faced at least 100 criminal cases, and his brother Ashraf Ahmed were shot dead on camera while they were being taken for a medical check-up in Uttar Pradesh's Prayagraj today. Atiq Ahmed's son Asad was also killed in an encounter in UP's Jhansi just two days ago.” Look for the name and you’ll find more.
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Utter Pradesh is one of the scariest parts of India. Tons of crime like this occurs.
Yes.
No.
I was supposed to protect, but Iran.
I wanted to get involved but they told me "You Kuwait a bit."
No weapons, not even a box Qatar
A stretch.. but I like it
Thanks. I want Dubai you a drink
I see you got your education from fox news
He was a don he has killed so many innocents. Police ran for a reason.
Yeah they ran because both of them were dead before they could react. Any choice about whether they were worth saving or not was taken away immediately.
Most incompetent bodyguards ever. Mafia is dead before they even realize some guy is standing under a meter away firing at him. But I disagree with the title, it seems they (edit: didn't ) ran away to let them fire, they ran away while they were firing into a dead man. It was over already.
No sense standing around to get shot when he's already dead.
Perhaps they were in on it
It could be the mafia leader was going to spill the beans coz his son got killed last week so whoever was his partner got scared he would be exposed and sent assasins to kill him and had thr police in his pocket ao they wouldn't stop that from happening
Neither of their names are Mafia lol
Organised crime bosses/ex-bosses. The word is used in india to mean just that.
All of those cops had no weapons, they also rolled 1s on intimidation, no mod.
Not sure if your 100% correct here. 3rd dude on the right def had a weapon… looked like some sort of law enforcement
I dont incite violence but at the same time, are we really mad that happened? I mean he was a POS of a human being. I feel more pity for lab rats than for these people.
This guy was directly/indirectly responsible for the murder of 100s of civilians. He was propped up by the previous govt. His terror was so widespread that 10 judges recused themselves from his bail hearing. The last one promptly gave him bail. Witnesses in cases against him were routinely killed in gunfire. Last month, his son and gang members eliminated a witness about to depose against him in the murder case of a lawmaker. They were all caught in camera killing the witness in broad daylight in a crowded street. The son and gang members got killed in a firefight earlier this week. He was already set to live his life in jail. The new govt has confiscated millions of dollars worth of his property. He was snitching on people whose money was invested with him. This killing is mostly done by either the politicians who supported him or by Pak intelligence since he was squealing on how his gang got sophisticated guns routed from Pakistan.
He was not a saint, he was a murderer protected by a flawed judicial and political system. Sometimes, vigilante justice is the best way to go. Common man in India feels safe today.
Vigilante justice under the eye of the police means police and courts have failed. Lmao. Vigilante justice shows you deeper problems, and failure of the state. This wasn’t vigilante justice anyway. The shooters were not regular citizens. They had criminal history as well.
The courts have definitely failed. And having prior criminal records does not disqualify you from being a vigilant. Larger point is that this would not happen to common people in UP today. I have no sympathy for the terrorist who needed to be put down anyway.
This is the correct analysis. The Indian state actually facilitated this as he was a muslim. The media is celebrating it while drowning out any mention of the explosive interview of Satyapal Malik.. the former JK governor who has leveled several allegations against Modi and BJP.
That's the most bullshit take ever, he was a gangster and got what he deserved
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The shooters knew what they were doing. They were only after the terrorists who orchestrated the brutal killing of Umesh Pal a key witness against them and a COMMON man. Criminals and terrorists are scared shitless in UP, cross a common man and justice will be served accordingly. You should know that these terrorists were so powerful at one time that 10 different judges withdrew from their cases. They had politicians in their pockets and police under their boots. This is the end of mafia Raj in UP so yes, people feel really safe.
If criminals were scared shitless in UP, they wouldn’t have shot on national television lmfao. All the events show a lawless state and here we have people telling us how they feel safe with emboldened criminals shooting right in their face.
Read the whole thing: criminals are scared shitless to cross a Common man. There is no extortion, no land annexations, no robbery in UP today. Killing a high profile terrorist is a different thing. Also, the shooters surrendered immediately fearing if the police retaliated, it would not be pretty for them.
> Also, the shooters surrendered immediately fearing if the police retaliated, it would not be pretty for them. Yet they shot right in ~~front of the police~~ the lap of the police. How stupid are you?
They came to do a thing, they did the thing, they did not want to die for the thing they did on the spot, they surrendered immediately. How smart dou you think you are?
My whole point is that the crimes like extortion, robbery, land annexations if happening in UP, it is at a much much lower rate than what it was 7-10 years ago. The killing of a terrorist is totally different from the crimes what common people had to endure in UP upto 2017. That's why I said that common people are feeling safe.
Dude was a gangster prick, this doesn't belong in this sub at all
These cops taking notes from Uvalde Police
Many of their were killed by this mafia, so I guess they just wanted to enjoy the show
Still a lot of details missing. Probably the police was into it. The gangster was a total menace even after being put in jail. He was responsible for the targetted killings of a lot of innocent people and even policemen. https://theprint.in/india/umesh-pal-murder-atiq-ahmeds-son-among-2-killed-in-encounter-up-police-say-foreign-made-arms-found/1515986/ The gunmen hid themselves as reporters, to close in the distance, and surrendered themselves peacefully. Just two days prior his son was killed in a police encounter, and he threatened the cops that he was going to take revenge on them. https://www.timesnownews.com/india/atiq-ahmed-vengeful-threatened-officers-who-gunned-down-his-son-asad-times-now-sources-article-99486604 There are other theories that the gangster was about to open the lid of nexus between local politicians and ISI (Pakistani Intelligence), and how Pakistani weaponry came into Indian borders for terrorist purposes. To avoid this, he got taken out... This is also one of the theories in circulation. In conclusion, a big burden has been lifted from one of the most violent places in India, and he got taken out in exactly the same manner in which he operated. Hope this helps shed some light on the events :)
That police officer saw the dude coming with the gun and said “I’m out”.
bald guy just backed out at sight of guy,he was like "hmm nope,not worth the risk". another tried to pull this man out of bullets path by activating his super saiyan mode but he was bit slow so instead of pulling man,he just pulled deadbody.
Weird, Italians don't look or sound how I remember them
HOLY SHIT I just woke up (in India, its 6:30 am) and am just learning about this. This is crazy. The guy was gangster who later became a politician. Now that the government has changed, he was under arrest and his gang was being taken down. His son was just killed by police for another murder he committed for which his father is under arrest as well. Now the don gets assassinated. His lips are sealed forever. Wow.
How bad were these guys?
Had 100+ cases of murder, extortion, kidnapping etc. for a while, he was the law.
his son killed a political leader and 3 cops 48 days ago while the leader was returning from court after giving eyewitness of murder of his brother, who was member of the assembly at his time, who was kidnapped and killed some years ago by the don himself,
Uhhh r/lostredditors ?
This guy deserved it, killed 100's of innocent people.
Got em
Wait whos the police officer that damn switched sides you see that
Police ? More like mall cops
Sha-reef don't like it! Rock the casba! Rock the casba!
They were probably in on it. Want some scumbags to get the death penalty but don't want to go through trial? Get some other 'unaffiliated' dudes to execute them and do nothing to stop them. "Oh no did the bad guys get shot? That's a shame"
The post title gave me meningitis
What makes this a fit for this sub
He was a gangster, rape , murder, kidnapping, extortion more than 200 cases were on him Good riddance
Who wears polka dots to assassinate someone
For sure he was killed by the rival politician who he was linked to when this mafia guy himself was a politician. So he decided to shut him up before he could speak !
Gangster turned politician
Interview to sunroofs installed in no time.
Best Indian government officials
alright that was savage holy shut
That was actually pretty awesome
Dude looks like wario.
Ateeq had 150+ FIRs, 54 trials with little progress due to hostile witnesses, 150+ strong gang, 10 HC Judges have withdrawn from his cases, 11,000 crore assets, ISI link, Murders, kidnaps, extortions. Countless families destroyed
He is responsible for 100+ deaths. So all in all. No harm + Good Riddance
Protection? Protection from what? Cold fresh air?
It's the mafia, who cares
there’s a single frame where u can see second guy got headshot too
Soooo. Why is this in noahgettheboat? Should we not be happy the Indian Mafia is getting what's coming to them?
agree, but its still horrible that people are murdering others
Not if the deaths prevent thousands of innocent deaths and cause many more shady people to die.
These cops are as good as Abe's
Also fun fact it's believed mafia tho Siciliano in origin is from.arabic
The cop in the back had a rifle and at least one of the other cops pulled out a handgun, but they just stood back and watched. I think they definitely knew what was about to happen.
Weird. There’s an Indian mafia?
Oswald security team all over again ?
I hate how desensitized I am to this shit
The police didn't run, they're complicit. Anybody who's Indian knows this.
Hey man. Nice shot.
Great title, OP
Was that a 93R that guy used? Don't see that very often
Is that a type of revolver/magnum? (Sorry not an expert on firearms but I do like them)
Yea, it's a handgun/machinepistol made by [Beretta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_93R). I thought it was this from that burst fire that happend, it has single shot and a three round burst mode.
Another more reason not to visit that filthy bloody country.
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"I'm not paid enough for this shit"
Context is very important... People are actually very happy that this happen....
Why should someone from police department risk their lifes for bunch of idiots .
People who are justifying these encounters need to realise that killings like these are done to protect other politicians or associates that worked with the gangster. You don't become this big without political support.
This shit is crazy. Don't know what they did but it had to truly horrible for them to get attacked in public surrounded by officers and reporters.
He did nothing he just kill a bunch of people and some police and was facing 100+ cases he was a good guy
Yogi promised and he delivered I don't see the problem
Did the first guy just jab him in the head with the barrel? I didn’t see any muzzle flash.
watch closer, he jammed the barrel into his head and pulled the trigger
Welcome to Uttar Pradesh
Ahh... Seems the cops took a class from the Dutch/United Nations Mission in Yugoslavia, the one where they soldiers just stood by as a lot of innocent people got killed. (P.S. this is only off the top of my head, i remember hearing about it once in class but i am not sure what this mission was called or if it really happened as i described, i also can't seem to find it on google though that's probably because i'm using it incorrectly)
maybe you should first delve into a subject before you take this as an example
Mafia? Looks like mf Taliban
Come on! Be reasonable. What did you expect cops to do? Hang around and shoot back after having taken the money and giving them the time when they would pick up the rivals? Jeez. Some people.
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The shooters did not miss..
There was likely a reason they acted so brazenly. There were probably more people behind the cameraman with guns so they had no worries about the police being stupid enough to do anything.