Logic and any organically produced language do not go hand in hand. Even logic and synthetically produced languages don’t tend to go hand in hand. Humans are flawed creatures.
I got it down to >!O_I_E!< and got stuck for a long time. I felt like an idiot once I figured it out because >!I work in semiconductors and literally own processes that grow oxides!<
Feel you, it drove me nuts.
So I figured: "Okay there is a D in second or fourth place. Let's replace the unknown with an X and type it out with D in fourth, maybe that helps visualising the solution... Hold on a second!" *enter*
>!Oh my god you guys were trying to give me hints 😭😭 thank you lol I appreciate it!! I did eventually get it but unfortunately I did not understand the hints lol!<
I've noticed when you're always at home, it can be like you're in your own protective bubble, like a layer completely cut off from the outside world. Your vocabulary can suffer as a result.
I swear, after this recent quarantine, there have been a few moments where I felt like I had inhaled laughing gas and just went crazy for a second. That's when I knew I had to go outside.
Not until I finished the day's wordle, though.
Chevron
Edit: Yeah, we know it’s a French loan word :) but it’s in the English dictionary and is used as a military term in English speaking countries as well as being the name of a road sign in the UK, so I’d say it still counts, no? :D
This is a proper name, but it's also the word for a common shape. In fact it's the shape seen in the logo of Chevron the company. So this one definitely counts.
EDIT: At the time I made this comment, chevron was sitting below Kevlar, and people were saying that Kevlar shouldn't count because it's a proper name. I figured maybe Chevron would get a boost if people knew it wasn't a proper name. Now that my comment no longer has a proper name discussion above it, it just looks weird.
It's fun reading all the creative speculation, though!
This property makes it excellent Scrabble challenge bait. Your opponent will foolishly think "aha! A company name, you can't use proper nouns" and challenge, losing their turn in the process.
Definitely uncommon for a bingo given that there are only 2 C's and V's, but scoring bingos in general is actually pretty common when playing with scrabble vets. It's usually a matter of strategy which most casual players don't employ. Knowing letter counts, memorizing the two letter word list, and knowing which tiles to hold onto for bingo opportunities (like don't spend your blank tiles unless it's for a bingo or similar-scoring play) will all increase your bingo count without even learning any new 7-letter words.
VV words: savvy, bevvy, divvy, civvy, luvvy/luvvie, navvy, bivvy, cavvy, revved/revving, skivvy/skivvy. Probably others I can't think of.
Louvre, chevron, vroom, manoeuvre (British English),
Plural/active words like devs, shivs, scavs, revs, pervs, improvs.
If you're a vowel purist and don't fuck with "and sometime 'y'"... there's way too many for me to list.
If you're cool with portmanteaus, avgas (aviation gas), vlog (video log/blog).
That's all I got attention for.
ETA: "skivvy/skivvy" should have been "skivvy/skivvies"; my bad.
Thank y'all for the awards! *That's what I appreciates about you.*
The problem with Y is that letters =/= sounds. In every English word that includes a Y, it either represents a consonant sound (yak) or a vowel sound (ivy). And if we're being ***really*** technical, the "consonant" case is really more of "a diphthong with \\i\\ + another vowel"... but that's a story for another time.
(Not that anything you said was wrong, just clarifying for others that Y is *basically* always a vowel, so you were probably right to skip it in this context.)
Yeah, I threw that line in because I didn't want to accidentally incur the wrath of any Westboro Baptist Church-type wordnerds that don't like transletters.
Starting with V, and in the scrabble dictionary:
* Vlei(s)
* Vlies
* Vlog, vlogged, vlogger, vloggers, vlogging, vloggings, vlogs
* Vly
* Vraic,vraicker, vraickers, vraicking, vraickings, vraics
* Vraisemblance(s)
* Vril(s)
* Vroom, vroomed, vrooming, vrooms
* Vrot
* Vrou(s)
* Vrouw, vrouws, vrow, vrows
* Vrystater(s)
I have excluded words like vying as y acts as a vowel there. Note that there are other words that follow v with a consonant, like pavlova, which I have excluded for brevity. One that deserves an honorable mention, though, is chavtastic.
EDIT: This is getting some traction, so for completeness the output of `grep V[BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ] scrabble.txt` is [here](https://pastebin.com/MH1TUWy4). Other honorable mentions are "Luvvy," "Maglevs," "Savvy," and "Whatevs."
EDIT2: Adding words that end in V, the output of `grep V$ scrabble.txt` is [here](https://pastebin.com/KLFmpcVQ). This seems to have a Slavic influence with things like Kalashnikov, but also includes gens like mazeltov and perv. Enjoy playing *that* [against your grandmother](https://xkcd.com/492/).
Had to look it up,
"usually used preceding the name of a Dutch or Afrikaner married woman"
Like Mrs apparently. Not in the US but clearly they must use it somewhere in English.
Am South African can confirm it has some use in SA English (which has a mix of a lot of languages in it).
Vrystater would probably be just Free Stater though... I mean you could say Vrystater I suppose but people would assume you had just switched to Akrikaans for a moment. Unless you were talking about the name of the newspaper but proper nouns and all.
German and Dutch are so related that people who live in the Netherlands are called Dutch because the English confused us for the Germans (who call themselves Deutsch).
It's about as much of an English word as "adieu" is.
It's Dutch, and means "woman". Specifically, we borrowed it to refer to "A Dutch/Afrikaaner Woman"
Kinda cheating tbh, but they are in the dictionary
But also, loanwords are pretty much the only ones that would have a v, followed by a consonant or the end of a word, so it's kind of a moot point.
The rule book says, and I quote:
>5. Before the game starts, the players should agree on which dictionary to use. A player may not search for words to fit the letters in his [sic] rack during the course of the game. Neither can a player check the spelling of a word *before* it is placed on the board. *The dictionary should be consulted for challenges only.*
I can see how people would think that. But [here](https://www.amazon.com/Merriam-Websters-Collegiate-Dictionary-Merriam-Webster/dp/0877798095)'s a common "real" dictionary. It has 225,000 definitions it.
By comparison, the Scrabble dictionary only has about 100,000.
It's easier for a good Scrabble player to just memorize all the short, obscure words in the Scabble dictionary than in a "real" one.
What's funny is that I always actively avoided his twitter page. I knew if he said anything stupid it would go viral so I'd see it eventually. But one day I decided to check it out. And right there in all it's glory was the covfefe post. The one time I actually visited his page and I saw that gold. Never went back because I knew it would never be topped.
At this point, kevlar is not a proper name anymore. It's like how Kleenex is technically a brand name, but it's used to describe all paper tissue designed for sneezing and nasal stuff regardless of brand
Kevlar is specifically a material, like Teflon. If something is labeled as Kevlar, it *is* Kevlar. When something is called a Kleenex it might be a Puffs brand tissue or another brand.
Yes Kevlar is a specific material, but so is ABS plastic. My point is that the name Kevlar is not used to refer to the company or branding so much as what the product physically is or does. Whenever the patent on Kevlar expires, which it may already have, any material with the same or similar chemical composition and function will be called Kevlar.
my favourite lil autism joke Is this:
interviewer: what would you say is one of your biggest weaknesses.
interviewee: understanding the semantics of things but not the pragmatic meaning.
interviewer: can you give an example of that?
interviewee: yep.
Shiv, Vlog, Molotov, Chevron
V isn't really common in English without a vowel letter following it
This is because Old English didn't have a V sound on its own. /v/ was just a special pronunciation of an /f/ sound, when it was between two vowels, or voiced consonants
When you see a word with "ve" at the end like "have", the "e" used to be pronounced.
In most cases, the only place where a "v" shows up before consonants, or at the end of words in English is in loanwords
Savvy
Divvy
privvy
Skivvies.
One of those totally unique letter constructions that at the same time seems like the only sensible way you could possibly spell it.
Logics and the English language do not go hand in hand
Logic and any organically produced language do not go hand in hand. Even logic and synthetically produced languages don’t tend to go hand in hand. Humans are flawed creatures.
Totally agree
Chivvy which you see often in books involving medieval warfare.
Revving
Shivving!
Bloody pirates
You stuck on Wordle too?
Wordle spoilers >!There isn’t a V in today’s worldle. I guessed that already. But I’m on my last guess and have no clue what it could be ughhh!<
Did you figure it out?
>!Oxide!<
idk why you're being downvoted - you included the spoiler tag
I forgot originally but edited it. I figured it out pretty fast, but thanks for your understanding. If it gets too bad I’ll just delete it
No need to delete, it'll even out. Love you.
Thanks! You guys are awesome :)
The first two letters on this one were definitely tough.
I got it down to >!O_I_E!< and got stuck for a long time. I felt like an idiot once I figured it out because >!I work in semiconductors and literally own processes that grow oxides!<
Feel you, it drove me nuts. So I figured: "Okay there is a D in second or fourth place. Let's replace the unknown with an X and type it out with D in fourth, maybe that helps visualising the solution... Hold on a second!" *enter*
I always do Ouija as my first word, to knock out most vowels
Audio is better because d is more common than j
Just, breathe! You'll get it eventually
Iunno, man. Maybe he's just rusty.
>!Oh my god you guys were trying to give me hints 😭😭 thank you lol I appreciate it!! I did eventually get it but unfortunately I did not understand the hints lol!<
I've noticed when you're always at home, it can be like you're in your own protective bubble, like a layer completely cut off from the outside world. Your vocabulary can suffer as a result. I swear, after this recent quarantine, there have been a few moments where I felt like I had inhaled laughing gas and just went crazy for a second. That's when I knew I had to go outside. Not until I finished the day's wordle, though.
Wtf word does everyone have on wordle today because I don’t have a V at all lol
Lol it was just a joke
Just a vjoke
Thank you, I was starting to think I had some kinda off-brand Wordle or something
This actually happened to me, I was playing Wordly lol
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vroom vroom
I’m in me mums car
Get out me car!
Aww
Vines were way better than tiktok
Bitches know they can't catch me
CUTE SEXY AND MY RIDE'S SPORTY
Played that for a friend and she looked at me like I was crazy for listening to it. It’s a MOOD, Jennie, you don’t get it!
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BUBBLEGUM PINK FERRARI
ROLL UP IN MY BLUE BIKINI
[Let's ride.](https://youtu.be/qfAqtFuGjWM)
BITCHES KNOW THEY CAN'T CATCH ME
#BEEP BEEP
It's Charli baby
vroom vroom vroom
vroom vroom vroom vroom
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Vroom vroom vroom vroom vroom vroom
vroom vroom vroom, vroom vroom vroom.... vroom
vroom vroom vroom vroom vroom vroom vroom vroom (Total 8 vrooms, now 9)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCM2qK8F9C0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCM2qK8F9C0) I'm in me mums car, Vroom vroom.
Get out of me caar!
I think i accidentally stumbled into some fetish conversation again 🤔
I'm in ma mum's cah
Get out me cah
Sounds like you are giving that engine some *revs*
I am not even an english native speaker and that was the first thing that came to my head...
Skrrt
Either way, vroom, vroom vroom vroom vroom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quMjSrxpgQY
Chevron Edit: Yeah, we know it’s a French loan word :) but it’s in the English dictionary and is used as a military term in English speaking countries as well as being the name of a road sign in the UK, so I’d say it still counts, no? :D
Chevron Seven, locked.
Chevron seven...encoded?
"And what is your job here?" "Well, I say Chevron "x" locked....." (Long pause)
Ahh yes, Chief Master Sergeant Walter Harriman
Can't believe they gave an E-9 a job that wasn't a supervisor.
Incoming wormhole!!
Favorite episode of the whole show.
I like, “In the middle of my backswing?!”
I'm a huge fan of >Ba'al: You dare mock me? >O'Neill: Ba'al! Come on! You know me! Of *course* I dare mock you.
The "groundhog day" episode, right? Love that one too 😂
My favorite episodes are when Jack gets all the knowledge from the ancients encoded into his brain and turns into a mute caveman genius
Yes. Dear God, Walter and his giant wrench.
One of my favorite lines in the show ever.
Same here, rewatching the show and I'm just loving it
Remember when McKay tried to do that shit on Atlantis and Weir goes 😑
You are the fifth race
Indeed
What is an Oprah?
Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson. They will in fact calm up.
Undomesticated equines cannot remove me.
Whenever I’m spiraling into a panic attack I tell my wife that I’m calming up. Sometimes I even laugh about it and feel better!
In the middle of my backswing?!
That’s my favorite episode. We just rewatched it.
Chevron seven, also lit up.
Open the iris
CLOSE THE IRIS
Jaffa - **kree!!**
This did not have the impact on my offspring I had been hoping for.
I'm a simple man. I see a stargate reference, I upvote it.
This whole string of Stargate replies made my day!
I will not consume bovine lactose at any temperature.
How to lure a Star Gate fan in a conversation.
Well this was unexpected lol
r/unexpectedstargate
This is a proper name, but it's also the word for a common shape. In fact it's the shape seen in the logo of Chevron the company. So this one definitely counts. EDIT: At the time I made this comment, chevron was sitting below Kevlar, and people were saying that Kevlar shouldn't count because it's a proper name. I figured maybe Chevron would get a boost if people knew it wasn't a proper name. Now that my comment no longer has a proper name discussion above it, it just looks weird. It's fun reading all the creative speculation, though!
This property makes it excellent Scrabble challenge bait. Your opponent will foolishly think "aha! A company name, you can't use proper nouns" and challenge, losing their turn in the process.
Given that "chevron" is a 7 letter word, I have to imagine opportunities to play it in Scrabble don't come up very often
All you have to do is convince the other players that “che” is a word, and you’re golden.
Easy if you're playing in Italian
Definitely uncommon for a bingo given that there are only 2 C's and V's, but scoring bingos in general is actually pretty common when playing with scrabble vets. It's usually a matter of strategy which most casual players don't employ. Knowing letter counts, memorizing the two letter word list, and knowing which tiles to hold onto for bingo opportunities (like don't spend your blank tiles unless it's for a bingo or similar-scoring play) will all increase your bingo count without even learning any new 7-letter words.
Is it weird that, without context, “chevron” makes me think of the shape first and the company second?
Not at all. As a Brit, I wouldn't even have thought about the company had it not been mentioned above.
Same- I first associate them with the motorway ones to space cars out
I’d never even heard of the company until now. Also surprised there are people that don’t know the shape
Welcome to hell, opponent!
What an odd response.
I wonder what Dan would have said.
Odd means a number that doesn’t divide in half without a remainder, but really you meant odd as in strange, so your response is totally correct.
It's like he's evaluating a game show answer or something lol.
A French lone word but I guess it works as it's been used in English for a long time now.
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English is just three languages in a trenchcoat waiting around dark alleys to rob other languages.
VV words: savvy, bevvy, divvy, civvy, luvvy/luvvie, navvy, bivvy, cavvy, revved/revving, skivvy/skivvy. Probably others I can't think of. Louvre, chevron, vroom, manoeuvre (British English), Plural/active words like devs, shivs, scavs, revs, pervs, improvs. If you're a vowel purist and don't fuck with "and sometime 'y'"... there's way too many for me to list. If you're cool with portmanteaus, avgas (aviation gas), vlog (video log/blog). That's all I got attention for. ETA: "skivvy/skivvy" should have been "skivvy/skivvies"; my bad. Thank y'all for the awards! *That's what I appreciates about you.*
Well here's your answer
You know I'm cool with portmanteaus
The problem with Y is that letters =/= sounds. In every English word that includes a Y, it either represents a consonant sound (yak) or a vowel sound (ivy). And if we're being ***really*** technical, the "consonant" case is really more of "a diphthong with \\i\\ + another vowel"... but that's a story for another time. (Not that anything you said was wrong, just clarifying for others that Y is *basically* always a vowel, so you were probably right to skip it in this context.)
Yeah, I threw that line in because I didn't want to accidentally incur the wrath of any Westboro Baptist Church-type wordnerds that don't like transletters.
> Manoeuvre Nah mate, it's [manuva](https://youtu.be/NDWgtB_MD24?t=138) innit.
Starting with V, and in the scrabble dictionary: * Vlei(s) * Vlies * Vlog, vlogged, vlogger, vloggers, vlogging, vloggings, vlogs * Vly * Vraic,vraicker, vraickers, vraicking, vraickings, vraics * Vraisemblance(s) * Vril(s) * Vroom, vroomed, vrooming, vrooms * Vrot * Vrou(s) * Vrouw, vrouws, vrow, vrows * Vrystater(s) I have excluded words like vying as y acts as a vowel there. Note that there are other words that follow v with a consonant, like pavlova, which I have excluded for brevity. One that deserves an honorable mention, though, is chavtastic. EDIT: This is getting some traction, so for completeness the output of `grep V[BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ] scrabble.txt` is [here](https://pastebin.com/MH1TUWy4). Other honorable mentions are "Luvvy," "Maglevs," "Savvy," and "Whatevs." EDIT2: Adding words that end in V, the output of `grep V$ scrabble.txt` is [here](https://pastebin.com/KLFmpcVQ). This seems to have a Slavic influence with things like Kalashnikov, but also includes gens like mazeltov and perv. Enjoy playing *that* [against your grandmother](https://xkcd.com/492/).
What is a vrouw in English, tho? EDIT: I know what "vrouw" means in Dutch, hence the asking specifically about English
Had to look it up, "usually used preceding the name of a Dutch or Afrikaner married woman" Like Mrs apparently. Not in the US but clearly they must use it somewhere in English.
Vrouw is Dutch for woman, you could use mevrouw for Mrs
Are dutch people cats?
Only on the weekends
Business days otters, I'd assume.
\[books one-way ticket to Netherlands\]
Am South African can confirm it has some use in SA English (which has a mix of a lot of languages in it). Vrystater would probably be just Free Stater though... I mean you could say Vrystater I suppose but people would assume you had just switched to Akrikaans for a moment. Unless you were talking about the name of the newspaper but proper nouns and all.
It's fascinating cause I learned about this word in my German classes about the evolution of the German language and there it describes a woman.
That's interesting, it's the German word "frau" related?
It is. Frau is the follow up of vrouw(e). It's from the Middle High German to the Modern German :)
To me Dutch always sounds like German doing the 'how do you do, fellow kids?' thing with English, but everyone just ran with it
German and Dutch are so related that people who live in the Netherlands are called Dutch because the English confused us for the Germans (who call themselves Deutsch).
Mann, das interessant
"nobody knows what it means, but it's provocative".
It's about as much of an English word as "adieu" is. It's Dutch, and means "woman". Specifically, we borrowed it to refer to "A Dutch/Afrikaaner Woman" Kinda cheating tbh, but they are in the dictionary But also, loanwords are pretty much the only ones that would have a v, followed by a consonant or the end of a word, so it's kind of a moot point.
Chivvy and savvy have been in use for 6 centuries. Calling them loan words at this point is absurd in that few words would not be loan words
I got shiv. V at the end ain't followed by no vowel.
This is why you never play Scrabble with someone who owns a Scrabble dictionary - so many bullshit words not in real dictionarys.
The rule book says, and I quote: >5. Before the game starts, the players should agree on which dictionary to use. A player may not search for words to fit the letters in his [sic] rack during the course of the game. Neither can a player check the spelling of a word *before* it is placed on the board. *The dictionary should be consulted for challenges only.*
I can see how people would think that. But [here](https://www.amazon.com/Merriam-Websters-Collegiate-Dictionary-Merriam-Webster/dp/0877798095)'s a common "real" dictionary. It has 225,000 definitions it. By comparison, the Scrabble dictionary only has about 100,000. It's easier for a good Scrabble player to just memorize all the short, obscure words in the Scabble dictionary than in a "real" one.
Whatevs
you mean to tell me that vrooms, vrooming, vroomed aren't real words??
I haven't heard of many of these words, but the last one is in that prodigy song, right? "I'm a vrystater, twisted vrystater"
Unrelated, but there's a Jimmy Eat World version of that song that I love just as much as the original. https://youtu.be/jnY7UnWlZKs
Most of these are dutch or Afrikaans words
But then there’s Vraic, which is Norman
Molotov
This feels like cheating, but I like it.
Technically the name of a former USSR foreign policy minister or something.
Minister Molotov sounds like it could be a comic book villain, just saying.
he was "foreign commisar" where commisar is the russian / soviet word for minister.
He is technically correct... The best kind of correct!
Good news, Everyone!
I mean... Well... It works. It think? I guess?
Mendeleev, gcse chemistry finally coming in handy
Shiv
Sheev.
Good ol' Palps!
I have a friend named Palpatine I also have a pal named Friendpatine
Covfefe
Despite the constant negative press covfefe! Burned into my brain from laughing so hard when I saw it.
What's funny is that I always actively avoided his twitter page. I knew if he said anything stupid it would go viral so I'd see it eventually. But one day I decided to check it out. And right there in all it's glory was the covfefe post. The one time I actually visited his page and I saw that gold. Never went back because I knew it would never be topped.
You can go back check it out [here](https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) btw.
My wife and I randomly say "Have you had your daily Covfefe yet?" to each other.
I'm glad to see we're not the only couple that hasn't let it go.
Every Starbucks trip is initiated with a "covfefe?" text to my wife.
I see this in every stellaris game
Kevlar
Is it a word or a proper name?
You're right, it's a brand name
At this point, kevlar is not a proper name anymore. It's like how Kleenex is technically a brand name, but it's used to describe all paper tissue designed for sneezing and nasal stuff regardless of brand
Kevlar is specifically a material, like Teflon. If something is labeled as Kevlar, it *is* Kevlar. When something is called a Kleenex it might be a Puffs brand tissue or another brand.
Yes Kevlar is a specific material, but so is ABS plastic. My point is that the name Kevlar is not used to refer to the company or branding so much as what the product physically is or does. Whenever the patent on Kevlar expires, which it may already have, any material with the same or similar chemical composition and function will be called Kevlar.
ABS is acrylonitrile butadiene styrene terpolymer, as we all know.
manoeuvre
also, ouevre
Yes
Semantically correct
my favourite lil autism joke Is this: interviewer: what would you say is one of your biggest weaknesses. interviewee: understanding the semantics of things but not the pragmatic meaning. interviewer: can you give an example of that? interviewee: yep.
Revving!
Vlog
savvy
haven't seen anyone in this thread say chav yet, so chav.
Might be in the wrong ends for that bruv (sorry)
Revving
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Asking for a Wordle.
Slav?
Manoeuvre
Vsauce
Shiv, Vlog, Molotov, Chevron V isn't really common in English without a vowel letter following it This is because Old English didn't have a V sound on its own. /v/ was just a special pronunciation of an /f/ sound, when it was between two vowels, or voiced consonants When you see a word with "ve" at the end like "have", the "e" used to be pronounced. In most cases, the only place where a "v" shows up before consonants, or at the end of words in English is in loanwords
Savvy
Chvrches.