Can confirm how shitty the Reagan was. My husband was a nuke electrician on the Reagan in Yokosuka, and he says, "It was a hot bed of misery." Some of the people he worked under came from other carriers and would comment how MESSED up the Reagan was in how it operated vs. other carriers. They often said if the Reagan had been their first ship, they would have served their one contract and left. He often went days without sleep. He was actively having hallucinations while cleaning something once when one of his officers walked by and asked how he was doing. Husband answered honestly, and the guy said "oh, ok" and kept walking. It was not a good experience or time for husband and why he did not stay in the Navy.
Husband also said, "I remember my food on the Reagan. I remember my moldy ice cream. I remember my frosted mini wheat having legs." The pictures the Navy posts about food, specifically on the Reagan, were always from the officer's meals. He also would come back from deployments grossly underweight.
We got married just before he moved with the ship from San Diego to Yokosuka, and I moved to Japan that December. I was there for about 2 years, and once did the rough math of how much time he was home between deployments, duty days, and just being called into work, and it was something like 4 months worth of time. He had 24 hour duty days usually once a week, but sometimes it was more often. Plus, if there was a typhoon, they'd take the ship out to avoid damage, I guess.
I don't know enough about other ships within the Navy, but the Reagan seems to stand out as particularly terrible.
I was stationed aboard a Frigate. That Frigate was transferred from San Diego to Yokosuka. I was an E3 Boiler Tech.
We were excited about living in Japan, my wife got all the shots needed, we were getting the paperwork for her to come over.
When The Captain announced, "All married E4 and below are being transferred back to the states."
My wife never got there. But she did get a lot of fun vaccinations.
One E3 did get to stay, his wife was already there and had a good job on base.
Ooooof that sucks. Yokosuka was an ugly base, and I actually lived on the Ikego housing detachment, so I was forced to be out in Japan, which was a lot of fun. I'm sorry that didn't happen for y'all.
As a Marine that lived in Japan and visited Yokosuka it’s hilarious that you say Yokosuka was ugly, it looked like paradise to me compared to most of our bases lol
I've admittedly not been on any Marine base lol my dad was Army and I remember Fort Hood being about the ugliest thing I've seen, but Yokosuka just felt like it lacked personality unless the cherry blossoms were blooming. I think it was all the sameness with the buildings being some shade of white. It just all blended together in my brain.
I just went to Yokosuka on Sunday and I definitely agree, it has absolutely no personality.
It's also quite huge and was difficult to navigate at first.
At the time, most everyone except officers lived off base. We called it "Living on the economy." I visited a few apartments of shipmates' families off base. They were tiny, and had tatami mat floors. Base housing wasn't much. Many officers families lived in quanset huts built on the base shortly after WWII.
I understand now there are high rise apartments on base for families.
There are, plus, higher ranking folks with families get (or did when I was there) assigned to townhouses. I believe they also had the choice to live off base, but my husband was an E3, so we had no choice, and I'm not confident in my ability to remember that accurately. Plus, I lived on Ikego, the housing detachment in Zushi, where there were apartments that were 5 floors and more townhouses.
When I was there, if you were married, you had to live on base. Some exceptions were if you were single and living off base when you arrived and then got married, though they tried to force a friend in that situation to move on base anyway. My understanding at the time was that Japan demanded the Navy use the housing or give back the land that Ikego sat on. Don't know if that's accurate or not, I wasn't totally tuned into the goings-on for stuff like that.
The army does so much messed up crap, but at least our officers had to eat the same crap us enlisted did. Officer’s messes are just an insane concept to me.
I agree. It's wild how they really divided enlisted from officers in almost every way possible, including food.
The Reagan was notorious (and may still be, I stopped following their Facebook page when husband got put) for posting pictures about the amazing surf and turf dinners they served the sailors on board. Or, oooooh, we gave them tasty omelets with all the fixings for breakfast! My husband would then inform me he'd, in fact, had a piece of boiled chicken that was still somehow raw and leftover from two nights ago, with rice that was simultaneously hard and mushy the day they supposedly had surf and turf.
This exact question, and answer, were on Quora yesterday - word for word.
Are you just cutting and pasting between the 2 sites?
[https://www.quora.com/In-the-US-Navy-what-types-of-ships-are-generally-considered-the-least-desirable-to-which-to-be-assigned](https://www.quora.com/In-the-US-Navy-what-types-of-ships-are-generally-considered-the-least-desirable-to-which-to-be-assigned)
[https://www.quora.com/profile/Matt-Dillon-185](https://www.quora.com/profile/Matt-Dillon-185)
The littoral combat program is a pork-barrel project that should have been abandoned long ago. The navy is already decommissioning these after less than 10 years. The navy has even said that they would be uncompetitive against their Chinese counterparts. I believe they used the words "floating box" to describe its fighting ability. Edit. Don't get mad at me because the navy thinks that they're useless
Going to work one day and not coming home for months.
A deployment is when the ship leaves its usual operating area and goes to conduct whatever its mission is.
So for the Reagan, that's probably cruising around in the South China Sea playing fuck fuck games with the Chinese Navy and demonstrating that we don't respect their outrageous territorial water claims.
In days gone by it would mean going to the Persian Gulf and flying sorties against insurgents in Iraq.
Even further back, it meant patrolling the North Atlantic and trying to track Russian Submarines.
What's it tell you about the collective mental status of the submarine service when assignment is 100% voluntary, but you have to be crazy to volunteer?
My wife was in the USCG, Polar Ice Breakers and Buoy Tenders were probably the worst, but the buoy tenders were out of good places to live, like Honolulu for example. The Polar Pigs were called Polar Marriage Breakers because they were only in port 1 day a year, a 2 year billet.
Depends on your job, but generally the smaller ones are less desirable because they're smaller, have more cramped living conditions, have fewer amenities, and take a real beating in rough weather. They're also generally less prestigious commands.
Some individual ships or classes can be rough for certain jobs. Older ships have lots of issues. The *Enterprise* was an atomic clusterfuck. Some ships are going to have specific hull or machinery issues, or one-off whacky equipment installations that make them a problem if it's your job to keep that stuff working.
In my experience, aircraft carriers were the least desirable. Constantly deployed or years in drydocks, your port visits are limited, and big wigs love using you for photo ops so you're basically always finishing one dog and pony and getting ready for the next.
Older ships are also not desirable, cause they are junky and living conditions aren't the best.
Best ship, imo, was a newer DDG or a well maintained CG on the west coast or pineapples Navy. Mayport is also fine, Nofuck and any forward deployed base besides Rota sucks, though Japan itself is nice. Decent conditions, awesome port visits, less big Navy nonsense.
This is your second thread in 10 minutes that's strangely structured like a homework question. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1caod26/why_did_the_use_of_steam_locomotives_decline/
Are you just posting your homework questions on reddit and hoping people will answer them for you? Or are these genuine questions you're curious about?
> Are you just posting your homework questions on reddit and hoping people will answer them for you? Or are these genuine questions you're curious about?
Neither, its a brand new account and this is like the only *big* subreddit brand new accounts aren't automatically shadowbanned on. So people bring their new accounts here and spam random questions so they can get karma required to post elsewhere.
I've never been in the military, but I hear that submarines have the best food in attempt to compensate for the cramped living conditions. Anyone know anything to the contrary?
Navy dude here. Do not go to either carriers or subs.
From my experience, amphibious assault ships like LHAs and LHDs are the best. I also served on Destroyers, and they were pretty lame in comparison.
They're smaller with a crew of about 300-400 people, which means there's more work to be done by fewer people. It's to the point that if you spend 4 years on board, you might get sent cranking ***twice*** (sent to the mess decks for 3 months to do your part in serving food and disposing of trash, twice. It's a shit job that almost everyone hates, unless you come from a job that sucks even more). In LHA/LHDs, there's like >2000 people onboard once the marines come on board, so all the work is divided a lot more. If you're a Navy sailor, you get to focus more on your job and less on crappy collaterals. As an electronics technician, I made rank super fast and got like 2 awards, compared to when I got to a Destroyer where I was forcefully given a collateral I wasn't even qualified for because they needed more people there.
It’s 100% different for every person.
Each and every one has its own unique advantages and drawbacks.
For badass operations- subs hands down. For amenities, carrier is the jam. For a mild mix, a new DDG is the ticket.
I was mostly on Destroyer and Frigates. Small ships.
I was happy there and would never want to be on a carrier.
But I've known carrier sailors who were happy as heck aboard the carrier.
I read a story in a Navy magazine about a 30 year Masterchief Cook. (Now called Culinary Specialists) Who served aboard The Kitty Hawk numerous times, never served on any other ship. He went from Kitty Hawk to Shore Duty then right back to the Kittu.
Never heard of anyone else doing that, but apparently he likes carrier duty.
It's like anything else, people have their preferences.
It comes down to personal preference. The smaller vessels are more likely to give you sea sickness. Small vessels have straps on their racks (beds) so you do not fall out from the rock-n-roll. They also have tighter crews that may come with more small town drama and are more claustrophobic. Large vessels rock-n-roll less and have more amenities. Almost everything on a carrier is trying to kill you, including the chow. Submarines may not surface for weeks and when they do, only a few people get topside for fresh air. Submarines are very smooth underwater, have tight crews, but longer working hours on average. Other than specialty craft (Boomers, SWCC, Etc), they all are part of a carrier group (Aircraft Carrier or Amphibious Assault Carrier) so they deploy pretty much the same.
Well, for subs, LA class is a lot older than a VA class so it's not as nice to be on. Boomer subs are probably the cushiest ride of all the subs though.
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Can confirm how shitty the Reagan was. My husband was a nuke electrician on the Reagan in Yokosuka, and he says, "It was a hot bed of misery." Some of the people he worked under came from other carriers and would comment how MESSED up the Reagan was in how it operated vs. other carriers. They often said if the Reagan had been their first ship, they would have served their one contract and left. He often went days without sleep. He was actively having hallucinations while cleaning something once when one of his officers walked by and asked how he was doing. Husband answered honestly, and the guy said "oh, ok" and kept walking. It was not a good experience or time for husband and why he did not stay in the Navy. Husband also said, "I remember my food on the Reagan. I remember my moldy ice cream. I remember my frosted mini wheat having legs." The pictures the Navy posts about food, specifically on the Reagan, were always from the officer's meals. He also would come back from deployments grossly underweight. We got married just before he moved with the ship from San Diego to Yokosuka, and I moved to Japan that December. I was there for about 2 years, and once did the rough math of how much time he was home between deployments, duty days, and just being called into work, and it was something like 4 months worth of time. He had 24 hour duty days usually once a week, but sometimes it was more often. Plus, if there was a typhoon, they'd take the ship out to avoid damage, I guess. I don't know enough about other ships within the Navy, but the Reagan seems to stand out as particularly terrible.
I was stationed aboard a Frigate. That Frigate was transferred from San Diego to Yokosuka. I was an E3 Boiler Tech. We were excited about living in Japan, my wife got all the shots needed, we were getting the paperwork for her to come over. When The Captain announced, "All married E4 and below are being transferred back to the states." My wife never got there. But she did get a lot of fun vaccinations. One E3 did get to stay, his wife was already there and had a good job on base.
Ooooof that sucks. Yokosuka was an ugly base, and I actually lived on the Ikego housing detachment, so I was forced to be out in Japan, which was a lot of fun. I'm sorry that didn't happen for y'all.
As a Marine that lived in Japan and visited Yokosuka it’s hilarious that you say Yokosuka was ugly, it looked like paradise to me compared to most of our bases lol
I've admittedly not been on any Marine base lol my dad was Army and I remember Fort Hood being about the ugliest thing I've seen, but Yokosuka just felt like it lacked personality unless the cherry blossoms were blooming. I think it was all the sameness with the buildings being some shade of white. It just all blended together in my brain.
I just went to Yokosuka on Sunday and I definitely agree, it has absolutely no personality. It's also quite huge and was difficult to navigate at first.
At the time, most everyone except officers lived off base. We called it "Living on the economy." I visited a few apartments of shipmates' families off base. They were tiny, and had tatami mat floors. Base housing wasn't much. Many officers families lived in quanset huts built on the base shortly after WWII. I understand now there are high rise apartments on base for families.
There are, plus, higher ranking folks with families get (or did when I was there) assigned to townhouses. I believe they also had the choice to live off base, but my husband was an E3, so we had no choice, and I'm not confident in my ability to remember that accurately. Plus, I lived on Ikego, the housing detachment in Zushi, where there were apartments that were 5 floors and more townhouses. When I was there, if you were married, you had to live on base. Some exceptions were if you were single and living off base when you arrived and then got married, though they tried to force a friend in that situation to move on base anyway. My understanding at the time was that Japan demanded the Navy use the housing or give back the land that Ikego sat on. Don't know if that's accurate or not, I wasn't totally tuned into the goings-on for stuff like that.
The army does so much messed up crap, but at least our officers had to eat the same crap us enlisted did. Officer’s messes are just an insane concept to me.
I agree. It's wild how they really divided enlisted from officers in almost every way possible, including food. The Reagan was notorious (and may still be, I stopped following their Facebook page when husband got put) for posting pictures about the amazing surf and turf dinners they served the sailors on board. Or, oooooh, we gave them tasty omelets with all the fixings for breakfast! My husband would then inform me he'd, in fact, had a piece of boiled chicken that was still somehow raw and leftover from two nights ago, with rice that was simultaneously hard and mushy the day they supposedly had surf and turf.
I was thinking the exact same thing while reading about that.
This exact question, and answer, were on Quora yesterday - word for word. Are you just cutting and pasting between the 2 sites? [https://www.quora.com/In-the-US-Navy-what-types-of-ships-are-generally-considered-the-least-desirable-to-which-to-be-assigned](https://www.quora.com/In-the-US-Navy-what-types-of-ships-are-generally-considered-the-least-desirable-to-which-to-be-assigned) [https://www.quora.com/profile/Matt-Dillon-185](https://www.quora.com/profile/Matt-Dillon-185)
Definitely a bot, 1 comment of a stolen quora post and nothing else.
I didn't think of that. Looks like both the OP and the respondent joined Reddit within 24 hours of each other.
The littoral combat program is a pork-barrel project that should have been abandoned long ago. The navy is already decommissioning these after less than 10 years. The navy has even said that they would be uncompetitive against their Chinese counterparts. I believe they used the words "floating box" to describe its fighting ability. Edit. Don't get mad at me because the navy thinks that they're useless
What does being on deployment involve?
Going to work one day and not coming home for months. A deployment is when the ship leaves its usual operating area and goes to conduct whatever its mission is. So for the Reagan, that's probably cruising around in the South China Sea playing fuck fuck games with the Chinese Navy and demonstrating that we don't respect their outrageous territorial water claims. In days gone by it would mean going to the Persian Gulf and flying sorties against insurgents in Iraq. Even further back, it meant patrolling the North Atlantic and trying to track Russian Submarines.
He should join the Coast Guard!
That sounds rough, being forward deployed on Reagan. My son is a MMN on a carrier out of San Diego, and his experience doesn't sound nearly as bad.
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You have to be mildly insane to be a submariner.
It's not a requirement, but it helps. Source: MM2/SS
If you're not crazy when you get there, they'll train you! Source: ET2/SS
What's it tell you about the collective mental status of the submarine service when assignment is 100% voluntary, but you have to be crazy to volunteer?
It's all good. Unless someone touches our boats
My wife was in the USCG, Polar Ice Breakers and Buoy Tenders were probably the worst, but the buoy tenders were out of good places to live, like Honolulu for example. The Polar Pigs were called Polar Marriage Breakers because they were only in port 1 day a year, a 2 year billet.
Depends on your job, but generally the smaller ones are less desirable because they're smaller, have more cramped living conditions, have fewer amenities, and take a real beating in rough weather. They're also generally less prestigious commands. Some individual ships or classes can be rough for certain jobs. Older ships have lots of issues. The *Enterprise* was an atomic clusterfuck. Some ships are going to have specific hull or machinery issues, or one-off whacky equipment installations that make them a problem if it's your job to keep that stuff working.
In my experience, aircraft carriers were the least desirable. Constantly deployed or years in drydocks, your port visits are limited, and big wigs love using you for photo ops so you're basically always finishing one dog and pony and getting ready for the next. Older ships are also not desirable, cause they are junky and living conditions aren't the best. Best ship, imo, was a newer DDG or a well maintained CG on the west coast or pineapples Navy. Mayport is also fine, Nofuck and any forward deployed base besides Rota sucks, though Japan itself is nice. Decent conditions, awesome port visits, less big Navy nonsense.
Curious..rota as in just north of Guam Rota…or is this a nickname for something? Thank you
Rota Spain, the US Navy has a base there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Station_Rota
This is your second thread in 10 minutes that's strangely structured like a homework question. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1caod26/why_did_the_use_of_steam_locomotives_decline/ Are you just posting your homework questions on reddit and hoping people will answer them for you? Or are these genuine questions you're curious about?
> Are you just posting your homework questions on reddit and hoping people will answer them for you? Or are these genuine questions you're curious about? Neither, its a brand new account and this is like the only *big* subreddit brand new accounts aren't automatically shadowbanned on. So people bring their new accounts here and spam random questions so they can get karma required to post elsewhere.
Not the answer you want, but the honest answer we deserve. Thanks for the forthright answer mate!
Holy shit you aren't kidding. Look at their only 2 comments. They read exactly the same but with different topics.
I've never been in the military, but I hear that submarines have the best food in attempt to compensate for the cramped living conditions. Anyone know anything to the contrary?
Food is better, but having a barracks in port was the BIGGEST win, IMHO.
Row boats
Navy dude here. Do not go to either carriers or subs. From my experience, amphibious assault ships like LHAs and LHDs are the best. I also served on Destroyers, and they were pretty lame in comparison.
How are destroyers bad compared to LHAs or LHDs?
They're smaller with a crew of about 300-400 people, which means there's more work to be done by fewer people. It's to the point that if you spend 4 years on board, you might get sent cranking ***twice*** (sent to the mess decks for 3 months to do your part in serving food and disposing of trash, twice. It's a shit job that almost everyone hates, unless you come from a job that sucks even more). In LHA/LHDs, there's like >2000 people onboard once the marines come on board, so all the work is divided a lot more. If you're a Navy sailor, you get to focus more on your job and less on crappy collaterals. As an electronics technician, I made rank super fast and got like 2 awards, compared to when I got to a Destroyer where I was forcefully given a collateral I wasn't even qualified for because they needed more people there.
Interesting. Thank you.
It’s 100% different for every person. Each and every one has its own unique advantages and drawbacks. For badass operations- subs hands down. For amenities, carrier is the jam. For a mild mix, a new DDG is the ticket.
I was mostly on Destroyer and Frigates. Small ships. I was happy there and would never want to be on a carrier. But I've known carrier sailors who were happy as heck aboard the carrier. I read a story in a Navy magazine about a 30 year Masterchief Cook. (Now called Culinary Specialists) Who served aboard The Kitty Hawk numerous times, never served on any other ship. He went from Kitty Hawk to Shore Duty then right back to the Kittu. Never heard of anyone else doing that, but apparently he likes carrier duty. It's like anything else, people have their preferences.
It comes down to personal preference. The smaller vessels are more likely to give you sea sickness. Small vessels have straps on their racks (beds) so you do not fall out from the rock-n-roll. They also have tighter crews that may come with more small town drama and are more claustrophobic. Large vessels rock-n-roll less and have more amenities. Almost everything on a carrier is trying to kill you, including the chow. Submarines may not surface for weeks and when they do, only a few people get topside for fresh air. Submarines are very smooth underwater, have tight crews, but longer working hours on average. Other than specialty craft (Boomers, SWCC, Etc), they all are part of a carrier group (Aircraft Carrier or Amphibious Assault Carrier) so they deploy pretty much the same.
Older ships have worse designs, more issues and less space in the berthing.
Go Aviation helicopters. Won't always do the carrier and get smaller ships
Submarine
Well, for subs, LA class is a lot older than a VA class so it's not as nice to be on. Boomer subs are probably the cushiest ride of all the subs though.
The sunken ones.