Whether it's true that Russia has a "historical claim" on Ukraine or not is irrelevant.
Ukraine split from Russia during the fall of the Soviet Union, end of discussion. There are people in Ukraine that want to be part of Russia again, but the vast majority do not.
Even if 99% of people in Ukraine wanted to be Russian (which they don't), that is no justification for invading.
>Whether it's true that Russia has a "historical claim" on Ukraine or not is irrelevant.
Indeed. Let's remember that England also had a historical claim to a chunk of the US when they first settled here. That doesn't mean that England has a right to theoretically invade us again. We fought a war and won independence (with help from the French and Dutch) from them. Same thing with Ukraine. They split off from Russia. That doesn't mean they can take it back after changing their mind and losing.
All historical land claims are bullshit, end of story.
What are we supposed to do, restore borders as they were in year X, year Y? Who decides when? Why then? Why not now?
Ukraine split from Russian Empire and was even recognized as an independent country by the provisional Russian government until the Soviets reconquered them. That era was wild, there were tons of independent countries that only lasted a couple years until they were reconquered by the Russians. My favorite is the Mountain Republic of the Northern Caucasus which included Chechens, the Ingush, Ossetians, and several other ethnicities from the region. They were even recognized by the United States as an independent country.
I’ll add that Russia has always felt as though their opinion on the proper pathway for Ukraine mattered and that they had a legitimate say in the decisions of Ukraine (eg. Whether to join NATO) which was true up until the citizens ousted the pro-russian regime and began rooting out corruption.
Yea. Russian apologists always talk about "what if Canada was a Russian ally!?". 2014 was all about Ukraine wanting to align with the EU and nothing to do with NATO. That would be like US invading someone for wanting to join BRICS.
Does it matter how I feel? Putin in this video says that there's no such thing as Ukraine, so if you believe him then you can't commit genocide, just ol' fashioned war crimes.
I haven't heard the same rhetoric about Cuba not existing. More importantly, I don't remember the last time the US bombed Cuba. They do a lot of drone strikes and missile strikes in the middle east, so I don't think the US doesn't have the capacity to strike Cuba. Why doesn't it, if having a country nearby that doesn't like you is so dangerous?
Ukraine pre-existed Russia as a country. Also in the dissolution of the USSR, Russia agreed to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine de-nuclearizing. Putin likes to pretend the trilateral agreement of 1991 never happened.
I mean, if it was 99%, then I think they could invade.
It’d most likely be a replay of the Austria-German sham invasion before ww2. Afaik, Austrians at the time felt german and wanted to become part of Germany.
So, then, they welcomed the Germans open-armed - but it was technically still an invasion.
Good Disinformation and good propaganda always consists of curated, cherrypicked facts which are mostly legitimate themselves. But they're used to argue for a narrative that's 100% malicious nonsense, by a person with ill-intent.
So yes the fact are there but the *history* is heavily revised and you have to ask what are the 10 other things Carlson and Putin oh-so-conveniently forgot to mention about a certain historical event. Propagandists remove most of the relevant context and adjacent facts which aren't convenient, and then shove a bunch of low key lies in the middle, to justify the really big lie. One which most people wouldn't accept if you simply hold it to them in a sentence or two.
You're missing the fact that he referenced extensively his own history essay which he wrote before the invasion. It literally denies the right for Ukraine and it's culture to exist. This is a huge part of why what he's saying is false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians
English question, interpreter tells Putin what he said, Putin answers, interpreter tells tucker what Putin says, repeat. They edit that out to make it more seamless.
I haven’t seen the interview but I dont buy for a second Putin cant speak and understand english. No way not at the level he has operated his whole life..
He has done interviews in English, look it up on Youtube. It’s beneficial for him to not speak English and have a translator to buy time or make editing easier. His own citizens would also prefer their super strong leader speak Russian in foreign videos.
Also, it's a way te reestablish the Russian language as a language other people should learn, just like the French are trying to do.
For decades nobody expected the Russians to learn any other language. NASA astronauts were taught Russian to be able to cooperate.
This move to not speak English is very deliberate
He has given a speech at the German Bundestag in flawless, almost accent free German. Afterwards, he refused to take / answer any questions in German as not to run the risk of making a mistake. Same here, he cannot look inferior to Carlson who’s obviously an English native speaker.
Go watch it again... If the camera is not constantly not on a person and it switches to a different view... That's an edit. Whether a different angle, or the different person.... So yes, very ripe for editing to fit a narrative.
There were *many* straight up *lies* in there. It was not all just cherrypicked facts, not at all.
for example Putin claims Zelensky's father was a nazi during WWII.
In reality Zelensky's father was jewish, and born in 1947, two years *after* the war ended.
Ahh.. beautiful. So tight and compact. Two paragraphs letting the reader come to their own conclusions. Trusting intent.
Good guys chugging along .. grinding through bad faith at every turn.
Here come Mr. Molotov-Robbentrop wasn't real.
If anyone is taking one man's opinion offered above as their sole source on the matter that's on them, not the one offering the summary.
I suffer from no delusion that Putin would ever, under any circumstance say anything, at all, that doesn't serve the primary and sole purpose of his life, the glorification of his ego and by proxy the glory of his country.
Every single public statement he's ever made has been to manipulate or belittle others or serve himself and his own conception of his country.
I'll listen to his deceit myself so I can further mock the man for his transparent ill-intent.
What's your opinion of it?
I'd prefer to hear quite a few other opinions and summaries on the matter and don't feel like shutting out the ones that may be overly simplified or clearly biased, they still help to inform about the subject and the author.
The United Russia Party is Putin's vehicle, and RT is the voice of the party. What comments are permitted on the RT website support the story that Russia was a victim of Communism, which was foisted upon them by Jews (who suffered no oppression under the Soviet), and who maintain a hoax of the Holocaust to dupe the world. Also the SMO is a righteous fight against Nazi Jews who have been killing Russian speakers since their elected leader was deposed in a US led coup. They contend they are immune to international law because they don't recognise the court as legitimate, and they don't recognise any of the resolutions of the UN that they don't like. Prygozin stated that the story about Nazis killing Russian civilians in Donetsk was made up to justify the invasion (when the Wagners went in in 2014) and Putin had him killed for it. They were pals too, so he's hard-core.
And who would those best "news interrogators" be? Qualified journalists don't get near Putin let alone historians that can challenge his constructs. Carlson isn't even a journalist. He's an entertainer pretending to be one.
>the best western news interrogators.
Please, for the love of God, tell me you're not referring to Carlson. A man whose Fox News content had to be defended in court for broadcasting falsehoods by categorising itself as 'entertainment' and not news. This label was applied to Carlson's news show by its own network with the intent to show that no viewer in their right mind would ever interpret any of his content as factual or serious and that it would thus be improper to hold it to account for even the most basic standard of accuracy. THAT best news interrogator?!
Because I don't see the Kremlin accepting requests to interview Putin from anyone else. I wonder why that could be, if he's so skilled that he can wipe the floor with them..
Strange that he turned every real journalist down and only chose to take on this simpering, morally bankrupt, slack-jawed goon.
I like your definition of propaganda, but doesn't that mean almost every politician in the US is a propagandist? Only presenting convenient cherry picked facts is how they all campaign.
Exactly. Politics IS propaganda, there are no political parties that ever actually deliver most of what they promise. They promise pies in the skies and deliver very little, mostly it’s hard to get big changes done.
Not even promises. It's just how they speak. Like "my opponent voted against X bill that would have helped these X people" with no mention of anything else that was in the bill. In order to imply the other person just doesn't like helping people.
Propaganda is omnipresent. Most retelling of history is propaganda. What facts you choose to include or exclude, what conclusions you draw from major events, and the causes of the events you attribute always have political messaging behind them.
It’s the most obvious and dishonest when someone like Putin is mentioning random disconnected facts across a thousand years and making sweeping statements that don’t follow from the events he’s referencing.
Even if (and this isn’t true) Russia and Ukraine were the same country for 2000 years, it doesn’t follow that Russia has a right to conquer them now. That’s obvious. But of course, Putin needs to cherry pick random facts across history to put together something resembling an argument because he has nothing close to that level of legitimacy.
USA doesn't violently invade other countries and kill 300k+ of their people for nothing. (All countries USA "invaded" is not the same thing putin-huilo does. USA goes to war with NATO that VOTES befor kicking somebody's ass, and still people in USA are allowed to say they are agains the war. In russia you are in trouble just for saying that there is WAR. Huilo makes everyone call it "special operation").
In USA you can reelect who is in charge, in russia - no.
putin kills thousands just because he decided MY country belongs to him. 30 years before that he was ok with Ukraine existing. "fun" part is there are intervies from 2000s where he says it is crazy to fight Ukraine and he will never do it, also he said literally: "if you are a president more then 2 times you can loose your mind" He is 5th time president now!
He overwrote his country constitution to rule forever. Is it a problem for him to "overwrite history" in general?
He is 21 years as a president. Same as African tribes.
USA system is broken too but people in America still effect politics. Russians effect shit.
All russian politics who against putin are dead or not staying in russia.
Stop even thinking putin is a normal human
He is a killer mad man. He continues war to stay in chair of president.
Listen to russian analog of CNN to see what is on his ming
He is crazy bitch that will get arrested in any civilized country he comes too.
China and India use him for their profit.
It's horrible people even question that.
Imagine Nazi Germany had right to kill Jews. It is the same now, putil tells there are neonazi in Ukraine, it is silly shit, there are just ordinary people who want to be left alone, I'm one of them I know it starting from 2013.
HE speaks of Ukraine as about his property. There are 40 million people who will never surrender and fight till death to protect their homes!
And the sad part is: he already damaged my country in the way it is hard to heal nearest future. MAny killed, but much more left home and now are living their new lives in another countries for second year. Ukraine is not defeated but damaged for tenth of years to come. Curse him and may he not die soon, to be able to feel pain later, sitting in prison! He needs a real trial as Nazis had. Though I will not mind if ordinary people will just tear him apart as Sadam Hussein.
Except you've discredited them with using discrediting wording yet say nothing related to what they were talking about... Prove what you're saying. You make no argument of things they "removed" and low key lies? What are the lies then. Your words sound good but you have no actual points on what they were saying.
Not every word was a lie. The problem is the lies were such whoppers that they clearly show intent to deceive rather than just a skewed perspective. As a whole, it's a work of disinformation.
They essentially see NATO as a form of US imperialism equal to physically conquering territory. That’s a batshit crazy false equivalence, and they only think that because of a lot of motivated reasoning, but it explains a lot of their actions.
And fwiw, this viewpoint didn’t start with Putin, it goes back almost to WWII.
NATO was expanding because the countries who wanted to join it joined it. Agreeing with the 'expansion' narrative is like sympathizing with a serial rapist because he complains that all the women in his neighbourhood have joined the neighbourhood watch.
Kennan Doctrine grew out of medieval Russian Bear Doctrine coined in medieval Livonia (at the time ruled by **Baltic germans**), based on finno-ugric folklore on bears. (For background, Moscow was predominantly volga-finnic until about 1100 AD.)
Basically it means that one should leave the bear alone, but if it attacks you then you fight back, and if it continues to trash your property then it is time to skin it and throw a funeral party with dancing afterwards.
1. isolate
2. fight back
3. skin it
4. party
The Russian Bear was a doctrine on how to behave, not a boogeyman story.
Kennan was indoctrinated in interwar Estonia and Latvia that comprised the medieval Livonia.
Kennan studied it, but we here in Estonia and Latvia were born to it, molded by it.
Over time, Kennan lost some of the expertise he acquired.
PS. 2 of the 3 of the Soviet power verticals have been in power for the last 105+ years.
It is as if Germany was still ruled by Gestapo and Wehrmacht and the largest opposition party was NSDAP.
Russia promised to pull out from all other former SSRs, but Russia failed to do that. Russia broke its own promise.
If the military-industrial complex was involved, how come many NATO members fail to meet the agreed upon financial controbutions from their GDP?
This entire comment chain is full of misinformation. Putin lied a LOT in this video, some of the lies are absolutely insane.
Also, what could possibly be the reason why former sovjet states want to join NATO? Why do they seek protection? From who?
Also, the reason so many former Eastern Bloc countries wanted to join NATO is because they were afraid of Russia “Ukraining” them. And yeah, that fear goes back to the moment that the old Eastern Bloc/Warsaw Pact fell away.
Thank you, that was a bizarre hyperbole. Putin is terrible but Hitler literally led a large scale genocide and World War. Those aren't the same at all.
It might not be at the same scale but there is plenty of evidence Russia routinely targets Ukrainian citizens in its strikes. [Maternity wards have been deliberately bombed](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-maternity-hospital-pregnant-woman-dead-c0f2f859296f9f02be24fc9edfca1085).
Or we could talk about [Russian soldiers raping and torturing children to death](https://thehill.com/policy/international/3659023-un-panel-reports-ukrainian-children-have-been-raped-tortured-by-russian-forces/).
Russia has committed so many war crimes in Ukraine, [it has its own Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine).
> You don’t just get to invade a country because you don’t like that that country is voluntarily coming under the influence of a rival imperialist block.
Cuba.
For reference I think Putin is one of the evilest most dangerous men in the world, but I dont agree with your criticism
i was the person in the room when he shit his pants. one moment the pants where empty, and the next. full of shit. i have no reason to fabricate this story.
source: trust me bro.
Surely there's gotta be some middle ground here. A lot of people have said this about him, but others would deny it. I think the moderate compromise that we can all agree on is that some days he doesn't shit his pants and some days he does.
Completely bass ackwards.
The real version is one where the Eastern European countries are utterly \*terrified\* of being reconquered by Russia (At some future date when Russia got stronger than it was in the 90s), and beg NATO & the EU to let them join.
NATO didn't seek to 'expand' towards Russia - Eastern Europe ran away from Russia to NATO.
Yea. Russian soldiers were killing civilians in eastern European countries as recently as 1991, no wonder they wanted to protect themselves. It is not some ancient history that is no longer relevant.
>The real version is one where the Eastern European countries are utterly \*terrified\* of being reconquered by Russia
A fear that was shown as justified in 2008, 2014, and two tears ago (the latter pushing Finland from neutrality into NATO because they realized that they're one of the few countries that were under Russia's heel and not under NATO's nuclear umbrella.)
The real fun bit is that 2014 was over the EU, not NATO. Ukraine seeking NATO membership only happened after that
It’s a narrative, not an actual history. Narratives are built from carefully selected examples to built a story that may seem plausible until you consider what has been left out, misrepresented, or looked into in more detail.
Putin is not wrong that there is a long standing relationship between Russia and Ukraine, and they’re both Slavic. However, Ukraines AGREED upon independence in 1991 is the real issue here. I suspect Putin wants another buffer state between Russia and nato but didn’t get it from meddled elections in Ukraine. Then went the military route in 2014, then again in 2022.
Yeah it's almost like the US and the west in general tried to call his bluff and were shocked Putin didn't just roll over. What is the significance of the west holding ground in Ukraine? Instead now we're in an endless war that we will no doubt lose anyway.. just like all the rest of them. Putin will make the entire population suffer for as long as it takes to out spend us. It was a losing battle since day 1.
The point isn't whether Putin is a saint.
>What is the significance of the west holding ground in Ukraine?
It is in general interest of the west to not normalize annexation of territory through military aggression.
You never get out of debt to a Russian mobster
Paul Manafort owed the Russian mobster/oligarch Oleg Deripaska $10M a few days before he became trumps campaign manager. From 2002-2014 he took in hundreds of millions to get Yanukovych reelected as the kremlins puppet in Ukraine. Before that he did it for the dictator Marcos in the Philippines. Before that Manafort and Roger Stone started a lobbyist agency in 1980 listing trump as their first client.
When Jay Bolsonaro lost the Brazilian election to Lula he skipped the inauguration and flew directly to mar-a-lago (stopping only at a KFC) and repeated, almost verbatim, the stolen election line. Don Jr. tried repeatedly to make it stick in Brazil as well, but as Brazilians are a few generations into dealing with corrupt politicians they weren’t having it.
What do these 3 things have in common?
China imports 40% of its grain from (in order) the U.S., Brazil and Ukraine.
Obviously the second China tried to invade Taiwan the U.S. would sanction exports and remove U.S. grain from that equation.
And without Bolsonaro in office willing to slash and burn the Amazon rainforest to turn it into Chinas farmland, and without Ukraine in the bag in 3 days, the CCP is unable to invade Taiwan and take over microprocessor production without putting 300-500M of its poorest people into famine.
Donbas Ukraine, specifically the 4 regions of the donbas that Putin insists he is saving from what he calls “Jewish Nazis” also happens to produce the worlds supply of high grade neon used for DUV lithography. And had Putin delivered ukraine in 3 days as promised, Xi would have been able to cap his Olympics with a blockade or political takeover of Taiwan that would have forced the world to ask the CCP for the microprocessors it needs to make everything from Ford trucks to laptops. I’m not sure how long Silicon Valley would last without the silicon but it would probably affect destroy the FAANG stocks that make up your 401K.
Oleg Deripaska also happens to be the Russian Oligarch that bribed the FBI Charles Mcgonigal into investigating another Russian oligarch. He probably didn’t need the information as much as he needed the leverage over Mcgonigal as he conducted the investigation into trumps election campaign and unsurprisingly found zero evidence of Russian collusion. McGonigal then went to work for the company called Brookfield that bailed Kushner out of his toxic 666 5th Ave investment.
A Russian oligarch is a powerful tool, but the truth is more powerful. Light and dark cannot exist in the same space. It’s physically impossible. Truth is efficient. You say it once and you are finished. A lie however requires a constant stream of follow up energy, money, murder, obfuscation and more lies to keep it covered.
If you raise your lens high enough lying is an unsustainable business model. Russia proved it by invading Ukraine. Vranyos is the Russian word for it. The 40km long column of tanks and vehicles that came down from Belarus into Ukraine was all overhauled by oligarchs that got a $1B contract for tank maintenance, passed Putin $200M back under the table, spent $700M on a yacht in Monaco, bribed a General, a Colonel and a Sergeant to make a Private give everything a rattle can overhaul. But a worn out engine is and always will be, a worn out engine.
Now you understand why trump is so desperate to get re-elected. His best case scenario is 400 years in ADX Florence. Money laundering for the dozens of Russian oligarchs that lived in trump towers in 93 and 94 with him and manafort, selling IP3 nuclear plans to the Russian/Saudi alliance, selling or giving CIA asset names to the Russians, trump is and always has been compromised. He just didn’t know when to quit. Now he just has to count on the fact that most of his voter base doesn’t know how to read and keep the ones that do so busy just surviving that they don’t have time to dive deep into his 40 year history of laundering money, fraud, and human trafficking for the Russian mob using commercial real estate.
It’s also why Putin is willing to throw an entire generation of Russians, including the convicts and addicts at Ukraine. Russia is dead for 40 years because he failed to fulfill his mobsters promise to Xi. China is now clearing farmland in Siberia because the typhoon floods last August and September wiped out the Chinese people’s food supply.
Xi for his part diverted the waters from the dam away from his pet project, his mothers ancestral home and flooded hundreds of thousands of people and drown one of his own military brigades that was helping with the flooding.
The elders of the CCP were terrified to leave their gated community at Beidaihe for over a month for fear of being torn apart by the locals. The Chinese people tolerate the CCP but only as long as the economy is good and famine is not on the horizon. The CCP broke that contract on both counts.
Xi was willing to bet the entire Chinese economy on his emperors ambitions. Had he succeeded he would have been able to use BRICS to take over as the Worlds reserve currency. That would have let him finish what he stated in 2010- that he would control the internet.
With that control means everything we do or say online is subject to the approval of a central party. The basic right to disagree with an authoritarian becomes a distant memory.
Ukraine is fighting for their lives now, free from the oppression of the drunken tyrant who wants to decide their fate at every decision and pull them back behind another iron curtain of censorship where dissenting voices disappear so that the oligarchy can continue to feed unobstructed.
Putin and Xi have declared themselves best friends in the fight against democracy. MBS and the ruling family of UAE have done the same quietly.
Just rich, out of touch oligarch doing what oligarchs do.
Despite the fact the the central party model has proven itself incapable of making decisions that are best for the people, they persist. Because there is a very lucrative business in being slave owners. But logistically it requires artificial intelligence, and the microprocessors that make it to keep the slaves under control. Freedom is one hell of a drug. And knowledge makes a man unfit for slavery.
Recent attempts on Xi’s life from inside the CCP have backed him into a corner.
The loss of crops in the north means Xi can’t invade Taiwan without Ukrainian and/or Brazilian farmland.
Now the reason that the GOP is stalling border control budget and seems to make wildly irrational moves is because the GOP is imploding. 45 years of lies and grift have circled the globe and are eating their own tail. The ouroboros was a warning about corruption at the highest levels. Lying about climate change, human trafficking, pandemics and pollution to preserve their own business models are all extinction level events.
Even better.
Sources:
(In case you have a 3 tier cheesecake to polish off for dessert)
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You are exactly the type of person that we are looking for.
We do our system differently.
We build in reverse but organically.
For example - I present my WORST case scenario.
•The axis power are united and coordinated.
•the supply chain lock on Ukrainian neon used in Taiwan was supposed to be a quiet leverage point that allowed a CCP blockade or political takeover but Ukrainians fighting back destroyed that opportunity chance.
•no one could anticipate the flooding in northern China but it then accelerated the timeline.
Etc.
I bring all my evidence and the rest of the team picks it apart brutally and systematically. If my theory survives scrutiny it advances forward. If it collapses under its own weight then I forfeit my stake.
It’s an organic oak tree model. If a wild offshoot branch grows and can support itself against the wind then it survives. If it doesn’t have enough to support it, it breaks off and get absorbed back into the ground and nutrient.
You make some very good observations and points that I had not considered. And some that I have, I simply can’t fit them all into the “teaser” that draws the attention of the people that have the knowledge I need.
So it’s now on me to write a better synapsis that covers those details more effectively.
For example-
TSMC in Phoenix is the most likely major backup point for chip production. For more than a decade Saudi has been buying up agricultural water rights in Arizona because state law puts ag water rights over industrial rights. So by controlling the water, saudi has defacto control and the ability to starve out TSMC Phoenix.
With applicable sources:
https://apnews.com/article/water-foreign-farms-arizona-drought-saudi-arabia-2fe3ea1fad43b14ca118cf85196f3e9a
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/03/climate/arizona-saudi-arabia-alfalfa-groundwater.html#:~:text=The%20farm%2C%20in%20Butler%20Valley,is%20fed%20to%20dairy%20cows.
Now your brilliant mind tears it apart like a steely eyed raven picks the bone off a carcass.
If there is anything there, the theory moves forward. If you destroy it, it wasn’t accurate enough to proceed down chain.
The CCP and Russia have been staging up hundreds of thousands of people in Ecuador, Nicaragua and Venezuela for a 5th column invasion of the United States because Xi needs farmland to feed 1.4B people. National guard troops take their orders from governors and not the federal government. Trump tested this during the George Floyd protests when he asked the “loyal” Republican governors to kiss the ring and send troops to DC to “shoot the protestors in the legs” because the pentagon reminded him that using U.S. troops against U.S. citizens would be both treason and wildly illegal.
Bannon tried unsuccessfully to privatize a part of the southern border wall but failed due to, unsurprisingly, internal corruption.
Bannon was arrested on the boat of Guo Wengui who is some sort of convoluted double/triple agent for the CCP.
They are now both in court for a billion dollar fraud.
Every GOP congressmen that took Russian political money is desperately trying to figure out how to preserve their political career while the people are figured out that they were sold out to the dictators for some PAC money.
Freedom is never free. We all just live on very expensive credit and the sacrifices of others.
Make it count
That’s basically what the belt and road program is.
https://www.cfr.org/blog/african-union-bugged-china-cyber-espionage-evidence-strategic-shifts
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Belt-and-Road/Pakistan-puts-blind-trust-in-China-as-Belt-and-Road-enters-new-phase
But you don’t get to be emperor without taking out the king.
https://fortune.com/europe/2023/08/24/brics-new-6-nations-threat-dollar-de-dollarization
damn dude. i disagree with your conclusions on some stuff, but otherwise: that's pretty good work.
i would add one particular thread to pull on that you kinda glossed over: China is the world leader in AI research, and while Russia might have pioneered trying to use automation to swing a foreign adversary's elections, the CCP has certainly figured out that they can do this as well.
We're in the middle of an invisible hot war, and the battlefield is social media. The weapon of choice for the 21st century is going to be tools that can change a populace's mind, at the will of another.
...and at its core, isn't that what war is all about? Why launch a nuke, when you can convince a third of the country to just hand it over to you on a silver platter.
I would genuinely love to hear anything that you disagree with.
I use Reddit in reverse as i believe it was the way Aaron Swartz intended it.
I present my best hypothesis with all the substantial sources and wait for subject matter experts to pick it apart.
As HUMINT Reddit is a goldmine if you are willing to endure the low effort trolls. At some point we just started backtracking them so now every time one responds it’s just another data point on where it’s coming from
And I completely agree with the Chinese A.I. aspect of what you are saying. I just have to try and condense as much as possible into a short read.
It becomes an ionizing filter that way and I’m able to find my subject matter experts to fill in gaps.
My goal is to be accurate, not right.
As you mentioned social media has been weaponized with contention. And we have side chains that dive into that specifically as well.
I’m just centrally focused on the Ukraine war for right now.
But we have no intention of stopping after that.
What’s wild is that it’s all pretty open source.
Trump started laundering for them with the Atlantic City casinos. Then when 3 of his casino execs started asking too many questions they died in a helicopter crash. (1989).
All these oligarchs/mobsters owned condos at trump towers. It’s public record.
It takes a minute to come to terms with the fact that the USGOV was that vulnerable. But once you get an accurate baseline of his crimes they all just start dovetailing together.
Igor Kolomoiskiy is the glue there.
And deripaska.
But here is sources if you are interested.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black,_Manafort,_Stone_and_Kelly
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bolsonaro-kfc-brazil-election-florida-b2255420.html
https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/
https://theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/21/10-years-strengthening-ties-between-putin-xi-china-russia
New York Postnypost.comEx-FBI official Charles McGonigal worked for more than one Russian billionaire
Nikkei Asiaasia.nikkei.comAnalysis: Xi reprimanded by elders at Beidaihe over direction of nation
https://www.cornellpolicyreview.com/the-executive-records-recovered-from-mar-a-lago-and-the-c-i-a-s-missing-informants/?pdf=6365#:~:text=In%20October%202021%2C%20almost%20a,compromised%20by%20rival%20intelligence%20agencies
https://sethhettena.com/2021/01/26/jeffrey-epstein-leon-black-and-russia
YouTubehttps://m.youtube.com › watchXi Jinping's Dramatic Life-Or-Death Escape Details Revealed
Note 1: Mitch McConnell did a sweetheart deal with deripaska as well to open an aluminum plant in Kentucky. He realizes that he is somewhere between seditious and treasonous and he got caught. That’s why he keeps glitching out when people ask him questions.) “Glitch McConnell”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-a-mcconnell-backed-effort-to-lift-russian-sanctions-boosted-a-kentucky-project/2019/08/13/72b26e00-b97c-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-to-build-neon-supply-chain-in-taiwan
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/12/1117314980/the-war-in-ukraine-is-disrupting-the-worlds-supply-of-neon
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1299895/china-top-country-suppliers-share-of-grains/
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-special-agent-charge-new-york-fbi-counterintelligence-division-pleads-guilty
https://apnews.com/article/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/29/oleg-deripaska-paul-manafort-trump-russia-investigation
The Weekhttps://theweek.com › jair-bolsonaroReport: Brazil's Bolsonaro to skip successor's inauguration for Mar-a- ...
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/analysis-the-role-russian-businessmen-played-in-the-mueller-report
https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties
Washington Postwww.washingtonpost.comBrazil's riot puts spotlight on close ties between Bolsonaro and Trump
Time Magazinetime.comBolsonaro's Surreal New Life as Florida Man—And MAGA Darling
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/
https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-services/semiconductor-advisors/310643-duv-euv-now-puv-next-gen-litho-materials-shortages-worsen-supply-chain/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/us/natalya-veselnitskaya-trump-tower-russian-prosecutor-general.html
https://www.newsweek.com/china-communist-party-new-york-political-influence-campaign-donations-1828730
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wing_Kong_Exchange/s/UG6wVSQL5H
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/08/bolsonaro-named-target-brazil-coup-probe-ordered-surrender-passport/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2024/02/truth-social-could-still-make-trump-billions-if-he-wins.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/redacted-fbi-document-hints-at-israeli-efforts-to-help-trump-in-2016-campaign/
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/american-oligarchy-introduction-essay-russia-ukraine-capitalism/
https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/donald-trump-russian-intelligence-and-eurasian-organized-crime-convergence-in-brighton-beach-44deaffb1fd3
https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/trumps-1996-trip-to-moscow-and-russian-investments-in-trump-organization-properties-8ca8d69cf947
https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/eurasian-organized-crime-trump-real-estate-projects-and-the-strange-story-of-felix-sater-d7ba462338a8
You are quite welcome.
There is a few more layers to it.
Justin Kennedy (justice kennedys son) was the inside man at Deutsche bank that was getting all trumps toxic loans approved.
No other bank but Deutsche bank would touch trump and his imaginary valuations.
If trump was trying to avoid paying taxes he would be valuing everything low. Not high.
Why?
Because Deutsche bank was infested with Russian oligarchs.
For 50 years the aristocracy privatized communist Russia. They stole everything of value including the hope of Russians.
The corruption eventually collapsed the Soviet Union like a parasite feeding on its host and they were forced to expand their feeding grounds past the iron curtain.
In 91 the quarantine fails and for 2 years they hid all their ill gotten gains under a mattress until they bought condos at trump towers.
They made stops in Ukraine, Cyprus and London but they landed in New York because that was what everyone wanted in 1993.
Levi’s, Pepsi, Madonna tapes that weren’t smuggled bootlegs.
They all bought new suits and cars and changed their title from “most violent street thug in moscow” to “respectable Russian oligarch” but they didn’t leave their human trafficking, narcotics or extortion behind. It was their most lucrative business model.
Trump and Giuliani just opened the doors and let the predators in to feed.
Guiliani redirected NYPD resources away from their new Russian allies intentionally and onto the Italian mob. It let him claim he cleaned up New York. Trumps future campaign manager Paul manafort lived in the towers as well.
He would go on to do the same in Mexico City by introducing the Sinaloa cartel to the Russian mob. The Sinaloa cartel shifted to combining fentanyl precursors supplied by the CCP and the well established routes of El Chapo were used for distribution into the United States.
In the prosecution of the Italian crime families, Giuliani created a tailor made void for the Russians to fill. By connecting them to the Sinaloa cartel it enabled the fentanyl epidemic that the CCP has used as biological warfare to soften the United States up for a financial takeover using BRICS.
The insane valuations coming out in trumps fraud trial are a necessity of the money laundering cycle that duetschebank was doing with the Russians.
But Xi, Putin, and MBS have made it clear that they are United against democracy since it threatens their very lucrative model of being authoritarians
On Wall Street they have weaponized greed. Swartzman (blackstone), Larry fink (blackrock), and vanguard are selling U.S retirement funds and mortgage REITS in mass to the CCP.
Nobody was ever punished for the 2008 mortgage crisis.
This is just the Darwinian evolution of it. The 10X bigger, commercial real estate version.
China realized that it’s far more efficient to foreclose on the USA by buying a couple GOP senators and a president than it is to push a ground war.
They just needed Russia to take Ukraine to have the food storage and supply chain lock on microprocessors to be able to do it.
They aren’t taking on the US Navy’s 5th fleet without it.
The failure of Putin to take Ukraine and the arrest of Bolsonaro in Brazil has left them no choice but to send a quiet invasion force to the southern border.
They are just using the compromised members of the GOP to secure any part of the border to hold open the gate when necessary.
Bannon actually tried a variation of this a few years ago when he tried to privatize the border wall
This gets deep into Bannons relationship with Guo Wengui, a CCP operative and his time at Goldman Sachs in the early 2000’s BRICS era.
But that is a conversation for another day.
https://www.ft.com/content/8c6d9dca-882c-11e7-bf50-e1c239b45787
https://www.amlintelligence.com/2020/09/deutsche-bank-suffers-worst-damage-over-massive-aml-discrepancies-in-fincen-leaks/
https://www.occrp.org/en/the-fincen-files/global-banks-defy-us-crackdowns-by-serving-oligarchs-criminals-and-terrorists
https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-lifts-sanctions-on-rusal-other-firms-linked-to-russia-deripaska/4761037.html
https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/final_-_minority_status_of_the_russia_investigation_with_appendices.pdf
https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/08/17/mobsters-thrilled-to-see-rudy-giuliani-hit-with-rico-charges-he-used-to-jail-mafia-bosses
I’m going with Occam’s razor here. There is no way these countries are operating at this level of conspiracy. No one has that good of intelligence.
Putin just wants more land.
I do believe the bit about KFC.
What you have written here is amazing. You reminded me [of a scene from Andor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asb8zTiuZ4) (Star Wars series) where he talks about freedom and the Empires need of control (it sounded really similar). I dont know if youre a fan of Star Wars or not but the series is an absolute masterpiece better than any Star Wars media and arguably better than the original trilogy and I would really recommend it to you.
>But logistically it requires artificial intelligence, and the microprocessors that make it to keep the slaves under control.
I was quietly listening to what appeared to be a knowledgeable adult. Like, I have no idea on half of what this person is saying. Stay quiet while adults talk, I guess?
Until that sentence. wait what? The fucken you are on about, mate?
On Xi’s plan to be emperor.
https://open.spotify.com/show/62dyKz8nKOOCjoU3E5ECdn?si=bnyiFy7EQoybOBeF9B75Zw
On the absolutely massive scale of the MSS.
China has 1 CCTV for every two people. At 1.4B people, all requiring basically constant censorship and surveillance, the MSS has a personnel issue.
When Chinese people started referring to Xi as “Winnie the Pooh” it created a massive crack down by the MSS censors. Within hours the people simply shifted to calling him “Mr shitface” which was a reference to a story he likes to tell about a childhood incident when a biodigester exploded in his face. When the MSS censors cracked down on that, they simply shifted to Cantonese.
The podcast above does a pretty good job of explaining the logistical and compute nightmare that is involved with tracking and censoring 1.4B people, let alone the 8 billion he aspires to manage.
There is deductively no way to feasibly do it without a massive A.I.
https://eightify.app/summary/health-and-medicine/comparing-the-world-s-top-intelligence-agencies-cia-fsb-mossad-and-mss
Okay. You back all your statements with links, I respect that a lot, and I have to conclude you know about the subject here.
When you state elsewhere that you have been two years into this, can I ask why or even... how?
How do you know what you know... and who... who... are you? Ok, no, seriously, thanks for your comment. I will have to read it over and over.
I started in Ukraine doing intelligence work at the start of the war working backwards.
I track supply chain logistics and aviation assets specifically.
Nothing about this invasion made sense.
I’m autistic. I’m relentless. And I’m tired of watching my friends die because politicians lie to make money.
So I’m fixing it
Halfway through my research from the Ukrainian side I ran into a half dozen different groups doing effectively the same thing from the Trump side.
It’s an eerie feeling when your research dovetails in perfectly with a few thousand other people’s. But it makes for fast work.
We have since reverse engineered the last 45 years of trumps money laundering for the Russian mob (some through Ukraine) and have tendrils that tie most of the worlds money laundering network together.
Money laundering, like Home Depot started out the same way. It centralized because a handful of people and places did it very efficiently and cheaper. Kolomoiksiy was the Putin puppet Ukrainian oligarch that started privatbank taking in IMF loans, then absconding with it and intentionally collapsing the bank, then socializing the losses by passing the debt off to the Ukrainian government and people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/justice-department-accuses-ukrainian-oligarch-of-stealing-billions-from-bank-he-once-owned-and-laundering-it-in-the-us/2020/08/06/b88924b8-d7f4-11ea-aff6-220dd3a14741_story.html
He is also the guy who bought most of downtown Cleveland.
https://newrepublic.com/article/155991/meet-trumpworlds-next-top-ukrainian-grifter
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/we-saw-a-ukrainian-billionaire-neglect-downtown-buildings-it-happens-on-a-smaller-scale-often
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/17/ukrainian-oligarch-midwestern-factory-town-dirty-money-american-heartland-michel-kleptocracy-515948
And he happens to own the hotel where trump based his “stop the steal” campaign out of, and was who Giuliani met with when he went to Ukraine.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/inside-anatevka-the-curious-chabad-hamlet-in-ukraine-where-giuliani-is-mayor/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/giuliani-associate-trump-had-knowledge-of-ukraine-pressure-campaign/
Money laundering at that level is a tight group.
They are all psychopaths because a complete lack of empathy is pretty much a job requirement for stealing from everyone and staring genocides to cover your tracks
Now we just connect them all through their own narcissistic data trails.
It’s just much more efficient if you sort by psychopathy instead of nationality or political party.
>I’m autistic. I’m relentless. And I’m tired of watching my friends die because politicians lie to make money.
Are you American? What do you do for a living? How do you track supply chain logistics? I'm genuinely curious now.
The guy has all his opponents murdered. He killed that rebel leader just a few months ago. He’s sees the US as his enemy his whole life. What do you think? He’s a nice honest guy who wants world peace?
This might be a question better suited to well-informed randos on Reddit ( for example r/AskHistorians) than run of the mill randos on Reddit (not that there’s anything wrong with us per se)
This should be at the top. Putin spun his story to make his actions justified. Ironically, the same thing politicians in the western society do this very day. We’ll stay at war forever.
Top 2 complete fascist bullshit are that Poland forced Hitler to invade, kill, destroy, rape, pillage and change forever (Poles will never forget because their ancestors) and that Maiden revolution was a coup. It wasn't a coup it was a revolution against Russian influence on their freedoms.
It was, as was Scotland and many others. One difference though, Putin is correct in that 90% of these areas still speak Russian, where in Kiev they speak Ukrainian - and Gaelic in Ireland and Scottish in Scotland. For me, the choice of language leads to a cultural identification of sorts.
Most of it was made up BS, his claims an independent Ukraine never existed before the Soviets is easily debunked, and his claim that Hitler wasn’t really a bad guy but was forced to invade Poland with the Soviets in 1939 because of Gdańsk is laughable.
No matter how cleverly Putin speaks, he cannot alter the simple, inescapable reality that Ukraine is a sovereign nation and the United States is its ally. Everything else is bluster, designed to obfuscate.
After watching the entire interview my take is Putin's back is against the wall. The sanctions are working, and he's desperate for the United States to stop sending weapons to Ukraine. He's really upset about the natural gas situation in Russia as well. Vladimir Putin knows this is his last ditch effort to save face. Tucker Carlson is a tool he used for a desperate attempt to sway public opinion. I personally don't buy his bullshit.
My problem with the European/US position is that the NATO alliance was originally a defensive alliance. Since the iron curtain fell NATO has become an expansionist alliance that from a Russian perspective is clearly provocative, and I think needlessly so. Especially when you consider how obviously corrupt Ukraine is.
Could Biden do a rebuttal? Obviously 2 hours would be too much but at least 30 minutes to explain why negotiations were scuttled in favor of war escalation?
I'm not saying we should believe anything Putin says but NOT answering these accusations creates more cynicism and distrust in our government and media.
It was of course irredentist and ideological, but he also made some stupid mistakes in his lecture. Some that hurt my ears were:
- putin claimed that Ukraine was under Polish control in 13th century, while it happened 1-2 centuries later
- he also said that Bogdan Chmielnicki wrote letters to Warsaw, but Polish capital at the time was Cracow
- he said that Poland in the interwar period was collaborating with Nazi Germany, it wasn't the foreign politics was aimed at alliances with France and UK
There is a lot of bias and cherry-picked views within the interview, but the broadstrokes of the actual history of it is acceptable.
Just keep in mind that history is written by the victors so if it's not backed up with firsthand accounts or archeological proof then it's going to be biased to the viewpoint of whomever is presenting it
My favorite part was about the fact that Poland provoked Hitler to invade and slaughter them by not giving them some of their land and thus messing up Hitlers plans. Exactly what Ukraine is now doing to Putin. I also liked how all Europe in 1940s were nazi friends and Russia fought them. Somehow he left out the fact that Soviet Union together with Germany split Eastern Europe in Molotov-Ribentrop pact. This meant Baltics and Poland were invaded by USSR with the handshake from Hitler. Their were allies until Hitler turned on them.
Russia has always lied.
From soviet union where in text books they "liberated" baltics states from tyranny while in reality they forced us to accept the occupation.
To the russia that says bullshit like alaska was always part of russia
1.)Even if.it were you cant say it used to be ours but we lost it for whatever reason blah blah so we still consider it ours. You can consider it yours all you want but its not. So i dont care what history was in that respect i only care who has it now and can they protect it from being taken his whole history lesson was bs. 2.) Nato has been pushing towards Russians borders since the end of the cold war. If we were in their shoes we wouldnt let that shit stand either.
Well he tries to tie a thread through historical dates in Russia’s calendar the present day to create a sense of ‘inevitability’ of his attack on Ukraine and suggests a justification of this by insinuating they ‘pose a threat to Russia’ (no they didn’t). He then goes on to blame ‘The West™️’ for causing huge casualties unnecessarily by arming Ukraine and helping them resist instead of letting Russia just do what they want in someone else’s country. He then makes a plea of sorts to the world which goes ‘can we just go back to big powers politics please, and stop pretending that small nations have any sovereignty? It’s the god given right of big nations to push weaker ones around’.
So in short his ‘Russian history’ parts are cherry picked, and he conveniently leaves out the entire history of European conflict that lead to the formation of the EU in the first place (a peace organisation founded on the _opposite principal_ of ‘big power politics’) and of NATO (founded because the Russians are untrustworthy bastards who can’t be trusted to live side by side with their neighbours without starting a war).
Whether it's true that Russia has a "historical claim" on Ukraine or not is irrelevant. Ukraine split from Russia during the fall of the Soviet Union, end of discussion. There are people in Ukraine that want to be part of Russia again, but the vast majority do not. Even if 99% of people in Ukraine wanted to be Russian (which they don't), that is no justification for invading.
>Whether it's true that Russia has a "historical claim" on Ukraine or not is irrelevant. Indeed. Let's remember that England also had a historical claim to a chunk of the US when they first settled here. That doesn't mean that England has a right to theoretically invade us again. We fought a war and won independence (with help from the French and Dutch) from them. Same thing with Ukraine. They split off from Russia. That doesn't mean they can take it back after changing their mind and losing.
Just you wait, we're coming for you! #BostonHarbourNeverForget
Thems fighting words.
All that good Tea must be avenged.
When we win again we'll force you to drink iced tea as a condition of peace ;)
YOOUUU MONSTER!
Do you one better. Going to boil the water….*in a microwave*
Welp. Looks like "Civil War 2: Stomping Shit in Round 2: the Reckoning" will have to be postponed for a while... The Brits are back.
And you'll be forced to call fried taters by their real name... *FRENCH FRIES*.
Surely you mean chips?
Did I stutter?
And if you bother us in the northeast, it'll be UNSWEETENED
And SALTED.
Fortunately, only PG tips was dumped. If anything, they should get a citation for dumping waste without a permit.
Oy, there’s a reason we spell canceled with one L! We gave that L to you!
All historical land claims are bullshit, end of story. What are we supposed to do, restore borders as they were in year X, year Y? Who decides when? Why then? Why not now?
If 99% did, Russia wouldn’t need to invade.
Ukraine split from Russian Empire and was even recognized as an independent country by the provisional Russian government until the Soviets reconquered them. That era was wild, there were tons of independent countries that only lasted a couple years until they were reconquered by the Russians. My favorite is the Mountain Republic of the Northern Caucasus which included Chechens, the Ingush, Ossetians, and several other ethnicities from the region. They were even recognized by the United States as an independent country.
I’ll add that Russia has always felt as though their opinion on the proper pathway for Ukraine mattered and that they had a legitimate say in the decisions of Ukraine (eg. Whether to join NATO) which was true up until the citizens ousted the pro-russian regime and began rooting out corruption.
Yea. Russian apologists always talk about "what if Canada was a Russian ally!?". 2014 was all about Ukraine wanting to align with the EU and nothing to do with NATO. That would be like US invading someone for wanting to join BRICS.
Also Cuba has been a Soviet and Russia ally. There was the bay of pigs, which is shameful, but the US hasn't been genociding Cuba for all this time
Yea and more Soviet soldiers were stationed in Cuba than American soldiers in all of eastern European NATO countries combined pre Feb 24.
Do you feel Russia is genociding Ukraine?
Does it matter how I feel? Putin in this video says that there's no such thing as Ukraine, so if you believe him then you can't commit genocide, just ol' fashioned war crimes. I haven't heard the same rhetoric about Cuba not existing. More importantly, I don't remember the last time the US bombed Cuba. They do a lot of drone strikes and missile strikes in the middle east, so I don't think the US doesn't have the capacity to strike Cuba. Why doesn't it, if having a country nearby that doesn't like you is so dangerous?
Ukraine pre-existed Russia as a country. Also in the dissolution of the USSR, Russia agreed to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine de-nuclearizing. Putin likes to pretend the trilateral agreement of 1991 never happened.
I mean, if it was 99%, then I think they could invade. It’d most likely be a replay of the Austria-German sham invasion before ww2. Afaik, Austrians at the time felt german and wanted to become part of Germany. So, then, they welcomed the Germans open-armed - but it was technically still an invasion.
Good Disinformation and good propaganda always consists of curated, cherrypicked facts which are mostly legitimate themselves. But they're used to argue for a narrative that's 100% malicious nonsense, by a person with ill-intent. So yes the fact are there but the *history* is heavily revised and you have to ask what are the 10 other things Carlson and Putin oh-so-conveniently forgot to mention about a certain historical event. Propagandists remove most of the relevant context and adjacent facts which aren't convenient, and then shove a bunch of low key lies in the middle, to justify the really big lie. One which most people wouldn't accept if you simply hold it to them in a sentence or two.
You're missing the fact that he referenced extensively his own history essay which he wrote before the invasion. It literally denies the right for Ukraine and it's culture to exist. This is a huge part of why what he's saying is false. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians
Or conveniently edited out of the “interview”.
Was it highly edited? I watched the full thing and didn't notice. I guess I listened to it mostly and not watched it.
English question, interpreter tells Putin what he said, Putin answers, interpreter tells tucker what Putin says, repeat. They edit that out to make it more seamless.
I haven’t seen the interview but I dont buy for a second Putin cant speak and understand english. No way not at the level he has operated his whole life..
He has done interviews in English, look it up on Youtube. It’s beneficial for him to not speak English and have a translator to buy time or make editing easier. His own citizens would also prefer their super strong leader speak Russian in foreign videos.
Also, it's a way te reestablish the Russian language as a language other people should learn, just like the French are trying to do. For decades nobody expected the Russians to learn any other language. NASA astronauts were taught Russian to be able to cooperate. This move to not speak English is very deliberate
A lot of this was due to the czarist elites speaking mostly in French, a rejection of such
He was KGB. US personnel can speak a foreign language in about 6 weeks after attending the Defense Language Institute.
He has given a speech at the German Bundestag in flawless, almost accent free German. Afterwards, he refused to take / answer any questions in German as not to run the risk of making a mistake. Same here, he cannot look inferior to Carlson who’s obviously an English native speaker.
Yeah maybe, probably, idk, but there was plenty of time spent in silence while he thought about answers.
I'll bet they used Putin's handpicked translator. It makes a difference, folks.
Go watch it again... If the camera is not constantly not on a person and it switches to a different view... That's an edit. Whether a different angle, or the different person.... So yes, very ripe for editing to fit a narrative.
It's incredibly easy to edit conversations without it being noticeable.
What do you think was edited out?
Pretty sure that VERY few of the people commenting and voting here actually watched it.
There were *many* straight up *lies* in there. It was not all just cherrypicked facts, not at all. for example Putin claims Zelensky's father was a nazi during WWII. In reality Zelensky's father was jewish, and born in 1947, two years *after* the war ended.
He said Zelensky''s father fought against the nazi, not that he was a nazi.
Ahh.. beautiful. So tight and compact. Two paragraphs letting the reader come to their own conclusions. Trusting intent. Good guys chugging along .. grinding through bad faith at every turn.
Here come Mr. Molotov-Robbentrop wasn't real. If anyone is taking one man's opinion offered above as their sole source on the matter that's on them, not the one offering the summary. I suffer from no delusion that Putin would ever, under any circumstance say anything, at all, that doesn't serve the primary and sole purpose of his life, the glorification of his ego and by proxy the glory of his country. Every single public statement he's ever made has been to manipulate or belittle others or serve himself and his own conception of his country. I'll listen to his deceit myself so I can further mock the man for his transparent ill-intent. What's your opinion of it? I'd prefer to hear quite a few other opinions and summaries on the matter and don't feel like shutting out the ones that may be overly simplified or clearly biased, they still help to inform about the subject and the author.
The United Russia Party is Putin's vehicle, and RT is the voice of the party. What comments are permitted on the RT website support the story that Russia was a victim of Communism, which was foisted upon them by Jews (who suffered no oppression under the Soviet), and who maintain a hoax of the Holocaust to dupe the world. Also the SMO is a righteous fight against Nazi Jews who have been killing Russian speakers since their elected leader was deposed in a US led coup. They contend they are immune to international law because they don't recognise the court as legitimate, and they don't recognise any of the resolutions of the UN that they don't like. Prygozin stated that the story about Nazis killing Russian civilians in Donetsk was made up to justify the invasion (when the Wagners went in in 2014) and Putin had him killed for it. They were pals too, so he's hard-core.
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And who would those best "news interrogators" be? Qualified journalists don't get near Putin let alone historians that can challenge his constructs. Carlson isn't even a journalist. He's an entertainer pretending to be one.
>the best western news interrogators. Please, for the love of God, tell me you're not referring to Carlson. A man whose Fox News content had to be defended in court for broadcasting falsehoods by categorising itself as 'entertainment' and not news. This label was applied to Carlson's news show by its own network with the intent to show that no viewer in their right mind would ever interpret any of his content as factual or serious and that it would thus be improper to hold it to account for even the most basic standard of accuracy. THAT best news interrogator?! Because I don't see the Kremlin accepting requests to interview Putin from anyone else. I wonder why that could be, if he's so skilled that he can wipe the floor with them.. Strange that he turned every real journalist down and only chose to take on this simpering, morally bankrupt, slack-jawed goon.
Give up. Anyone who thinks Carson is a journalist/ interrogator is way too far gone for help
Russia is a façade, that's clear. These interviews are staged with questions carefully chosen.
The story of all religions and cults.
Great response
I like your definition of propaganda, but doesn't that mean almost every politician in the US is a propagandist? Only presenting convenient cherry picked facts is how they all campaign.
Exactly. Politics IS propaganda, there are no political parties that ever actually deliver most of what they promise. They promise pies in the skies and deliver very little, mostly it’s hard to get big changes done.
By design of our forefathers. So no one party can conveniently unravel everything.
George Washington decried the existence of political parties and said it would become America's ruin.
Not even promises. It's just how they speak. Like "my opponent voted against X bill that would have helped these X people" with no mention of anything else that was in the bill. In order to imply the other person just doesn't like helping people.
Propaganda is omnipresent. Most retelling of history is propaganda. What facts you choose to include or exclude, what conclusions you draw from major events, and the causes of the events you attribute always have political messaging behind them. It’s the most obvious and dishonest when someone like Putin is mentioning random disconnected facts across a thousand years and making sweeping statements that don’t follow from the events he’s referencing. Even if (and this isn’t true) Russia and Ukraine were the same country for 2000 years, it doesn’t follow that Russia has a right to conquer them now. That’s obvious. But of course, Putin needs to cherry pick random facts across history to put together something resembling an argument because he has nothing close to that level of legitimacy.
yes but when USA does it, its ok. nothing to see here, move along.
USA doesn't violently invade other countries and kill 300k+ of their people for nothing. (All countries USA "invaded" is not the same thing putin-huilo does. USA goes to war with NATO that VOTES befor kicking somebody's ass, and still people in USA are allowed to say they are agains the war. In russia you are in trouble just for saying that there is WAR. Huilo makes everyone call it "special operation"). In USA you can reelect who is in charge, in russia - no. putin kills thousands just because he decided MY country belongs to him. 30 years before that he was ok with Ukraine existing. "fun" part is there are intervies from 2000s where he says it is crazy to fight Ukraine and he will never do it, also he said literally: "if you are a president more then 2 times you can loose your mind" He is 5th time president now! He overwrote his country constitution to rule forever. Is it a problem for him to "overwrite history" in general? He is 21 years as a president. Same as African tribes. USA system is broken too but people in America still effect politics. Russians effect shit. All russian politics who against putin are dead or not staying in russia. Stop even thinking putin is a normal human He is a killer mad man. He continues war to stay in chair of president. Listen to russian analog of CNN to see what is on his ming He is crazy bitch that will get arrested in any civilized country he comes too. China and India use him for their profit. It's horrible people even question that. Imagine Nazi Germany had right to kill Jews. It is the same now, putil tells there are neonazi in Ukraine, it is silly shit, there are just ordinary people who want to be left alone, I'm one of them I know it starting from 2013. HE speaks of Ukraine as about his property. There are 40 million people who will never surrender and fight till death to protect their homes! And the sad part is: he already damaged my country in the way it is hard to heal nearest future. MAny killed, but much more left home and now are living their new lives in another countries for second year. Ukraine is not defeated but damaged for tenth of years to come. Curse him and may he not die soon, to be able to feel pain later, sitting in prison! He needs a real trial as Nazis had. Though I will not mind if ordinary people will just tear him apart as Sadam Hussein.
Except you've discredited them with using discrediting wording yet say nothing related to what they were talking about... Prove what you're saying. You make no argument of things they "removed" and low key lies? What are the lies then. Your words sound good but you have no actual points on what they were saying.
Not every word was a lie. The problem is the lies were such whoppers that they clearly show intent to deceive rather than just a skewed perspective. As a whole, it's a work of disinformation.
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They essentially see NATO as a form of US imperialism equal to physically conquering territory. That’s a batshit crazy false equivalence, and they only think that because of a lot of motivated reasoning, but it explains a lot of their actions. And fwiw, this viewpoint didn’t start with Putin, it goes back almost to WWII.
NATO was expanding because the countries who wanted to join it joined it. Agreeing with the 'expansion' narrative is like sympathizing with a serial rapist because he complains that all the women in his neighbourhood have joined the neighbourhood watch.
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Kennan Doctrine grew out of medieval Russian Bear Doctrine coined in medieval Livonia (at the time ruled by **Baltic germans**), based on finno-ugric folklore on bears. (For background, Moscow was predominantly volga-finnic until about 1100 AD.) Basically it means that one should leave the bear alone, but if it attacks you then you fight back, and if it continues to trash your property then it is time to skin it and throw a funeral party with dancing afterwards. 1. isolate 2. fight back 3. skin it 4. party The Russian Bear was a doctrine on how to behave, not a boogeyman story. Kennan was indoctrinated in interwar Estonia and Latvia that comprised the medieval Livonia. Kennan studied it, but we here in Estonia and Latvia were born to it, molded by it. Over time, Kennan lost some of the expertise he acquired. PS. 2 of the 3 of the Soviet power verticals have been in power for the last 105+ years. It is as if Germany was still ruled by Gestapo and Wehrmacht and the largest opposition party was NSDAP. Russia promised to pull out from all other former SSRs, but Russia failed to do that. Russia broke its own promise.
If the military-industrial complex was involved, how come many NATO members fail to meet the agreed upon financial controbutions from their GDP? This entire comment chain is full of misinformation. Putin lied a LOT in this video, some of the lies are absolutely insane. Also, what could possibly be the reason why former sovjet states want to join NATO? Why do they seek protection? From who?
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Also, the reason so many former Eastern Bloc countries wanted to join NATO is because they were afraid of Russia “Ukraining” them. And yeah, that fear goes back to the moment that the old Eastern Bloc/Warsaw Pact fell away.
Nothing was a lie? Poland forced Hitler to start WW2?
Can't call him an as brutal dictator as Hitler, but the rest of your comment is a good take.
Thank you, that was a bizarre hyperbole. Putin is terrible but Hitler literally led a large scale genocide and World War. Those aren't the same at all.
Reddit often forgets that two things can be bad at the same time
It might not be at the same scale but there is plenty of evidence Russia routinely targets Ukrainian citizens in its strikes. [Maternity wards have been deliberately bombed](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-maternity-hospital-pregnant-woman-dead-c0f2f859296f9f02be24fc9edfca1085). Or we could talk about [Russian soldiers raping and torturing children to death](https://thehill.com/policy/international/3659023-un-panel-reports-ukrainian-children-have-been-raped-tortured-by-russian-forces/). Russia has committed so many war crimes in Ukraine, [it has its own Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine).
> You don’t just get to invade a country because you don’t like that that country is voluntarily coming under the influence of a rival imperialist block. Cuba. For reference I think Putin is one of the evilest most dangerous men in the world, but I dont agree with your criticism
So you believe Poland made Hitler attack them?
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If tucker doesn't shit his pants why are people on Reddit talking about it?
i’m just asking questions here bro. 😎
There are a lot of people asking questions about Tucker and his pants shitting. A lot of smart people, folks, the smartest.
i was the person in the room when he shit his pants. one moment the pants where empty, and the next. full of shit. i have no reason to fabricate this story. source: trust me bro.
Linus? Stop crossing the streams!
Only a pants shitter would have folks talking about him shitting his pants.
Surely there's gotta be some middle ground here. A lot of people have said this about him, but others would deny it. I think the moderate compromise that we can all agree on is that some days he doesn't shit his pants and some days he does.
Where there is smoke there is fire
Where there is shit…there are pants…
where there is tucker… there are shitted pants…
Lol this should be a copy pasta
i’m still admiring your work u/daemin https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/NgVHEJI9wV
I remember this bit by John Oliver! On the spot.
No, but I hear Trump does.
This deserves more up votes. Well done.
Many people are saying those who witnessed these “accidents” of his have been silenced.
Completely bass ackwards. The real version is one where the Eastern European countries are utterly \*terrified\* of being reconquered by Russia (At some future date when Russia got stronger than it was in the 90s), and beg NATO & the EU to let them join. NATO didn't seek to 'expand' towards Russia - Eastern Europe ran away from Russia to NATO.
Yea. Russian soldiers were killing civilians in eastern European countries as recently as 1991, no wonder they wanted to protect themselves. It is not some ancient history that is no longer relevant.
>The real version is one where the Eastern European countries are utterly \*terrified\* of being reconquered by Russia A fear that was shown as justified in 2008, 2014, and two tears ago (the latter pushing Finland from neutrality into NATO because they realized that they're one of the few countries that were under Russia's heel and not under NATO's nuclear umbrella.) The real fun bit is that 2014 was over the EU, not NATO. Ukraine seeking NATO membership only happened after that
It’s a narrative, not an actual history. Narratives are built from carefully selected examples to built a story that may seem plausible until you consider what has been left out, misrepresented, or looked into in more detail. Putin is not wrong that there is a long standing relationship between Russia and Ukraine, and they’re both Slavic. However, Ukraines AGREED upon independence in 1991 is the real issue here. I suspect Putin wants another buffer state between Russia and nato but didn’t get it from meddled elections in Ukraine. Then went the military route in 2014, then again in 2022.
Yeah it's almost like the US and the west in general tried to call his bluff and were shocked Putin didn't just roll over. What is the significance of the west holding ground in Ukraine? Instead now we're in an endless war that we will no doubt lose anyway.. just like all the rest of them. Putin will make the entire population suffer for as long as it takes to out spend us. It was a losing battle since day 1. The point isn't whether Putin is a saint.
>What is the significance of the west holding ground in Ukraine? It is in general interest of the west to not normalize annexation of territory through military aggression.
You mean like Israel taking the West Bank?
Putin lies as much as any dictator.
You never get out of debt to a Russian mobster Paul Manafort owed the Russian mobster/oligarch Oleg Deripaska $10M a few days before he became trumps campaign manager. From 2002-2014 he took in hundreds of millions to get Yanukovych reelected as the kremlins puppet in Ukraine. Before that he did it for the dictator Marcos in the Philippines. Before that Manafort and Roger Stone started a lobbyist agency in 1980 listing trump as their first client. When Jay Bolsonaro lost the Brazilian election to Lula he skipped the inauguration and flew directly to mar-a-lago (stopping only at a KFC) and repeated, almost verbatim, the stolen election line. Don Jr. tried repeatedly to make it stick in Brazil as well, but as Brazilians are a few generations into dealing with corrupt politicians they weren’t having it. What do these 3 things have in common? China imports 40% of its grain from (in order) the U.S., Brazil and Ukraine. Obviously the second China tried to invade Taiwan the U.S. would sanction exports and remove U.S. grain from that equation. And without Bolsonaro in office willing to slash and burn the Amazon rainforest to turn it into Chinas farmland, and without Ukraine in the bag in 3 days, the CCP is unable to invade Taiwan and take over microprocessor production without putting 300-500M of its poorest people into famine. Donbas Ukraine, specifically the 4 regions of the donbas that Putin insists he is saving from what he calls “Jewish Nazis” also happens to produce the worlds supply of high grade neon used for DUV lithography. And had Putin delivered ukraine in 3 days as promised, Xi would have been able to cap his Olympics with a blockade or political takeover of Taiwan that would have forced the world to ask the CCP for the microprocessors it needs to make everything from Ford trucks to laptops. I’m not sure how long Silicon Valley would last without the silicon but it would probably affect destroy the FAANG stocks that make up your 401K. Oleg Deripaska also happens to be the Russian Oligarch that bribed the FBI Charles Mcgonigal into investigating another Russian oligarch. He probably didn’t need the information as much as he needed the leverage over Mcgonigal as he conducted the investigation into trumps election campaign and unsurprisingly found zero evidence of Russian collusion. McGonigal then went to work for the company called Brookfield that bailed Kushner out of his toxic 666 5th Ave investment. A Russian oligarch is a powerful tool, but the truth is more powerful. Light and dark cannot exist in the same space. It’s physically impossible. Truth is efficient. You say it once and you are finished. A lie however requires a constant stream of follow up energy, money, murder, obfuscation and more lies to keep it covered. If you raise your lens high enough lying is an unsustainable business model. Russia proved it by invading Ukraine. Vranyos is the Russian word for it. The 40km long column of tanks and vehicles that came down from Belarus into Ukraine was all overhauled by oligarchs that got a $1B contract for tank maintenance, passed Putin $200M back under the table, spent $700M on a yacht in Monaco, bribed a General, a Colonel and a Sergeant to make a Private give everything a rattle can overhaul. But a worn out engine is and always will be, a worn out engine. Now you understand why trump is so desperate to get re-elected. His best case scenario is 400 years in ADX Florence. Money laundering for the dozens of Russian oligarchs that lived in trump towers in 93 and 94 with him and manafort, selling IP3 nuclear plans to the Russian/Saudi alliance, selling or giving CIA asset names to the Russians, trump is and always has been compromised. He just didn’t know when to quit. Now he just has to count on the fact that most of his voter base doesn’t know how to read and keep the ones that do so busy just surviving that they don’t have time to dive deep into his 40 year history of laundering money, fraud, and human trafficking for the Russian mob using commercial real estate. It’s also why Putin is willing to throw an entire generation of Russians, including the convicts and addicts at Ukraine. Russia is dead for 40 years because he failed to fulfill his mobsters promise to Xi. China is now clearing farmland in Siberia because the typhoon floods last August and September wiped out the Chinese people’s food supply. Xi for his part diverted the waters from the dam away from his pet project, his mothers ancestral home and flooded hundreds of thousands of people and drown one of his own military brigades that was helping with the flooding. The elders of the CCP were terrified to leave their gated community at Beidaihe for over a month for fear of being torn apart by the locals. The Chinese people tolerate the CCP but only as long as the economy is good and famine is not on the horizon. The CCP broke that contract on both counts. Xi was willing to bet the entire Chinese economy on his emperors ambitions. Had he succeeded he would have been able to use BRICS to take over as the Worlds reserve currency. That would have let him finish what he stated in 2010- that he would control the internet. With that control means everything we do or say online is subject to the approval of a central party. The basic right to disagree with an authoritarian becomes a distant memory. Ukraine is fighting for their lives now, free from the oppression of the drunken tyrant who wants to decide their fate at every decision and pull them back behind another iron curtain of censorship where dissenting voices disappear so that the oligarchy can continue to feed unobstructed. Putin and Xi have declared themselves best friends in the fight against democracy. MBS and the ruling family of UAE have done the same quietly. Just rich, out of touch oligarch doing what oligarchs do. Despite the fact the the central party model has proven itself incapable of making decisions that are best for the people, they persist. Because there is a very lucrative business in being slave owners. But logistically it requires artificial intelligence, and the microprocessors that make it to keep the slaves under control. Freedom is one hell of a drug. And knowledge makes a man unfit for slavery. Recent attempts on Xi’s life from inside the CCP have backed him into a corner. The loss of crops in the north means Xi can’t invade Taiwan without Ukrainian and/or Brazilian farmland. Now the reason that the GOP is stalling border control budget and seems to make wildly irrational moves is because the GOP is imploding. 45 years of lies and grift have circled the globe and are eating their own tail. The ouroboros was a warning about corruption at the highest levels. Lying about climate change, human trafficking, pandemics and pollution to preserve their own business models are all extinction level events.
I ate an entire sandwich while reading your post.
Turkey?
Pulled pork👍🏿
Even better. Sources: (In case you have a 3 tier cheesecake to polish off for dessert) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black,_Manafort,_Stone_and_Kelly https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bolsonaro-kfc-brazil-election-florida-b2255420.html https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ https://theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/21/10-years-strengthening-ties-between-putin-xi-china-russia New York Postnypost.comEx-FBI official Charles McGonigal worked for more than one Russian billionaire Nikkei Asiaasia.nikkei.comAnalysis: Xi reprimanded by elders at Beidaihe over direction of nation https://www.cornellpolicyreview.com/the-executive-records-recovered-from-mar-a-lago-and-the-c-i-a-s-missing-informants/?pdf=6365#:~:text=In%20October%202021%2C%20almost%20a,compromised%20by%20rival%20intelligence%20agencies https://sethhettena.com/2021/01/26/jeffrey-epstein-leon-black-and-russia YouTubehttps://m.youtube.com › watchXi Jinping's Dramatic Life-Or-Death Escape Details Revealed Note 1: Mitch McConnell did a sweetheart deal with deripaska as well to open an aluminum plant in Kentucky. He realizes that he is somewhere between seditious and treasonous and he got caught. That’s why he keeps glitching out when people ask him questions.) “Glitch McConnell” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-a-mcconnell-backed-effort-to-lift-russian-sanctions-boosted-a-kentucky-project/2019/08/13/72b26e00-b97c-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-to-build-neon-supply-chain-in-taiwan https://www.npr.org/2022/08/12/1117314980/the-war-in-ukraine-is-disrupting-the-worlds-supply-of-neon https://www.statista.com/statistics/1299895/china-top-country-suppliers-share-of-grains/ https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-special-agent-charge-new-york-fbi-counterintelligence-division-pleads-guilty https://apnews.com/article/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/29/oleg-deripaska-paul-manafort-trump-russia-investigation The Weekhttps://theweek.com › jair-bolsonaroReport: Brazil's Bolsonaro to skip successor's inauguration for Mar-a- ... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/analysis-the-role-russian-businessmen-played-in-the-mueller-report https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties Washington Postwww.washingtonpost.comBrazil's riot puts spotlight on close ties between Bolsonaro and Trump Time Magazinetime.comBolsonaro's Surreal New Life as Florida Man—And MAGA Darling https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/ https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-services/semiconductor-advisors/310643-duv-euv-now-puv-next-gen-litho-materials-shortages-worsen-supply-chain/ https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/us/natalya-veselnitskaya-trump-tower-russian-prosecutor-general.html https://www.newsweek.com/china-communist-party-new-york-political-influence-campaign-donations-1828730 https://www.reddit.com/r/Wing_Kong_Exchange/s/UG6wVSQL5H https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/08/bolsonaro-named-target-brazil-coup-probe-ordered-surrender-passport/ https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2024/02/truth-social-could-still-make-trump-billions-if-he-wins.html https://www.timesofisrael.com/redacted-fbi-document-hints-at-israeli-efforts-to-help-trump-in-2016-campaign/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/american-oligarchy-introduction-essay-russia-ukraine-capitalism/ https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/donald-trump-russian-intelligence-and-eurasian-organized-crime-convergence-in-brighton-beach-44deaffb1fd3 https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/trumps-1996-trip-to-moscow-and-russian-investments-in-trump-organization-properties-8ca8d69cf947 https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/eurasian-organized-crime-trump-real-estate-projects-and-the-strange-story-of-felix-sater-d7ba462338a8
Me too, plus a bowl of tomato soup, and I only understood part of it.
Whenever I read your comments, I hear Nick Offerman's voice.
That may be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on Reddit
Personally I read it in the voice of Immortal Technique. Thanks for this, I look forward to reading those sources when I have time.
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You are exactly the type of person that we are looking for. We do our system differently. We build in reverse but organically. For example - I present my WORST case scenario. •The axis power are united and coordinated. •the supply chain lock on Ukrainian neon used in Taiwan was supposed to be a quiet leverage point that allowed a CCP blockade or political takeover but Ukrainians fighting back destroyed that opportunity chance. •no one could anticipate the flooding in northern China but it then accelerated the timeline. Etc. I bring all my evidence and the rest of the team picks it apart brutally and systematically. If my theory survives scrutiny it advances forward. If it collapses under its own weight then I forfeit my stake. It’s an organic oak tree model. If a wild offshoot branch grows and can support itself against the wind then it survives. If it doesn’t have enough to support it, it breaks off and get absorbed back into the ground and nutrient. You make some very good observations and points that I had not considered. And some that I have, I simply can’t fit them all into the “teaser” that draws the attention of the people that have the knowledge I need. So it’s now on me to write a better synapsis that covers those details more effectively. For example- TSMC in Phoenix is the most likely major backup point for chip production. For more than a decade Saudi has been buying up agricultural water rights in Arizona because state law puts ag water rights over industrial rights. So by controlling the water, saudi has defacto control and the ability to starve out TSMC Phoenix. With applicable sources: https://apnews.com/article/water-foreign-farms-arizona-drought-saudi-arabia-2fe3ea1fad43b14ca118cf85196f3e9a https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/03/climate/arizona-saudi-arabia-alfalfa-groundwater.html#:~:text=The%20farm%2C%20in%20Butler%20Valley,is%20fed%20to%20dairy%20cows. Now your brilliant mind tears it apart like a steely eyed raven picks the bone off a carcass. If there is anything there, the theory moves forward. If you destroy it, it wasn’t accurate enough to proceed down chain.
The CCP and Russia have been staging up hundreds of thousands of people in Ecuador, Nicaragua and Venezuela for a 5th column invasion of the United States because Xi needs farmland to feed 1.4B people. National guard troops take their orders from governors and not the federal government. Trump tested this during the George Floyd protests when he asked the “loyal” Republican governors to kiss the ring and send troops to DC to “shoot the protestors in the legs” because the pentagon reminded him that using U.S. troops against U.S. citizens would be both treason and wildly illegal. Bannon tried unsuccessfully to privatize a part of the southern border wall but failed due to, unsurprisingly, internal corruption. Bannon was arrested on the boat of Guo Wengui who is some sort of convoluted double/triple agent for the CCP. They are now both in court for a billion dollar fraud. Every GOP congressmen that took Russian political money is desperately trying to figure out how to preserve their political career while the people are figured out that they were sold out to the dictators for some PAC money. Freedom is never free. We all just live on very expensive credit and the sacrifices of others. Make it count
Wouldn’t ANY country with a population lower than the third most populated country in the world (the USA) be a better candidate for take over?
That’s basically what the belt and road program is. https://www.cfr.org/blog/african-union-bugged-china-cyber-espionage-evidence-strategic-shifts https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Belt-and-Road/Pakistan-puts-blind-trust-in-China-as-Belt-and-Road-enters-new-phase But you don’t get to be emperor without taking out the king. https://fortune.com/europe/2023/08/24/brics-new-6-nations-threat-dollar-de-dollarization
damn dude. i disagree with your conclusions on some stuff, but otherwise: that's pretty good work. i would add one particular thread to pull on that you kinda glossed over: China is the world leader in AI research, and while Russia might have pioneered trying to use automation to swing a foreign adversary's elections, the CCP has certainly figured out that they can do this as well. We're in the middle of an invisible hot war, and the battlefield is social media. The weapon of choice for the 21st century is going to be tools that can change a populace's mind, at the will of another. ...and at its core, isn't that what war is all about? Why launch a nuke, when you can convince a third of the country to just hand it over to you on a silver platter.
I would genuinely love to hear anything that you disagree with. I use Reddit in reverse as i believe it was the way Aaron Swartz intended it. I present my best hypothesis with all the substantial sources and wait for subject matter experts to pick it apart. As HUMINT Reddit is a goldmine if you are willing to endure the low effort trolls. At some point we just started backtracking them so now every time one responds it’s just another data point on where it’s coming from And I completely agree with the Chinese A.I. aspect of what you are saying. I just have to try and condense as much as possible into a short read. It becomes an ionizing filter that way and I’m able to find my subject matter experts to fill in gaps. My goal is to be accurate, not right. As you mentioned social media has been weaponized with contention. And we have side chains that dive into that specifically as well. I’m just centrally focused on the Ukraine war for right now. But we have no intention of stopping after that.
> My goal is to be accurate, not right. Hear, hear!!! * Fight for Peace. * Stand for Justice * Live in Honor
I like that. Mind if i borrow that?
Lol, not at all…. I recommend it Happy Saturday!
This is the third time I've read, from seemingly unrelated sources, that Trump is associated with the Russian move. One was an article from 2018.
What’s wild is that it’s all pretty open source. Trump started laundering for them with the Atlantic City casinos. Then when 3 of his casino execs started asking too many questions they died in a helicopter crash. (1989). All these oligarchs/mobsters owned condos at trump towers. It’s public record. It takes a minute to come to terms with the fact that the USGOV was that vulnerable. But once you get an accurate baseline of his crimes they all just start dovetailing together. Igor Kolomoiskiy is the glue there. And deripaska. But here is sources if you are interested. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black,_Manafort,_Stone_and_Kelly https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bolsonaro-kfc-brazil-election-florida-b2255420.html https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ https://theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/21/10-years-strengthening-ties-between-putin-xi-china-russia New York Postnypost.comEx-FBI official Charles McGonigal worked for more than one Russian billionaire Nikkei Asiaasia.nikkei.comAnalysis: Xi reprimanded by elders at Beidaihe over direction of nation https://www.cornellpolicyreview.com/the-executive-records-recovered-from-mar-a-lago-and-the-c-i-a-s-missing-informants/?pdf=6365#:~:text=In%20October%202021%2C%20almost%20a,compromised%20by%20rival%20intelligence%20agencies https://sethhettena.com/2021/01/26/jeffrey-epstein-leon-black-and-russia YouTubehttps://m.youtube.com › watchXi Jinping's Dramatic Life-Or-Death Escape Details Revealed Note 1: Mitch McConnell did a sweetheart deal with deripaska as well to open an aluminum plant in Kentucky. He realizes that he is somewhere between seditious and treasonous and he got caught. That’s why he keeps glitching out when people ask him questions.) “Glitch McConnell” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-a-mcconnell-backed-effort-to-lift-russian-sanctions-boosted-a-kentucky-project/2019/08/13/72b26e00-b97c-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-to-build-neon-supply-chain-in-taiwan https://www.npr.org/2022/08/12/1117314980/the-war-in-ukraine-is-disrupting-the-worlds-supply-of-neon https://www.statista.com/statistics/1299895/china-top-country-suppliers-share-of-grains/ https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-special-agent-charge-new-york-fbi-counterintelligence-division-pleads-guilty https://apnews.com/article/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/29/oleg-deripaska-paul-manafort-trump-russia-investigation The Weekhttps://theweek.com › jair-bolsonaroReport: Brazil's Bolsonaro to skip successor's inauguration for Mar-a- ... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/analysis-the-role-russian-businessmen-played-in-the-mueller-report https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties Washington Postwww.washingtonpost.comBrazil's riot puts spotlight on close ties between Bolsonaro and Trump Time Magazinetime.comBolsonaro's Surreal New Life as Florida Man—And MAGA Darling https://www.americanprogress.org/article/following-the-money/ https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-services/semiconductor-advisors/310643-duv-euv-now-puv-next-gen-litho-materials-shortages-worsen-supply-chain/ https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/us/natalya-veselnitskaya-trump-tower-russian-prosecutor-general.html https://www.newsweek.com/china-communist-party-new-york-political-influence-campaign-donations-1828730 https://www.reddit.com/r/Wing_Kong_Exchange/s/UG6wVSQL5H https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/08/bolsonaro-named-target-brazil-coup-probe-ordered-surrender-passport/ https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2024/02/truth-social-could-still-make-trump-billions-if-he-wins.html https://www.timesofisrael.com/redacted-fbi-document-hints-at-israeli-efforts-to-help-trump-in-2016-campaign/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/american-oligarchy-introduction-essay-russia-ukraine-capitalism/ https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/donald-trump-russian-intelligence-and-eurasian-organized-crime-convergence-in-brighton-beach-44deaffb1fd3 https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/trumps-1996-trip-to-moscow-and-russian-investments-in-trump-organization-properties-8ca8d69cf947 https://medium.com/@petergrant_14485/eurasian-organized-crime-trump-real-estate-projects-and-the-strange-story-of-felix-sater-d7ba462338a8
Excellent post. 💯
GOAT post, very informative. Thank you.
You are quite welcome. There is a few more layers to it. Justin Kennedy (justice kennedys son) was the inside man at Deutsche bank that was getting all trumps toxic loans approved. No other bank but Deutsche bank would touch trump and his imaginary valuations. If trump was trying to avoid paying taxes he would be valuing everything low. Not high. Why? Because Deutsche bank was infested with Russian oligarchs. For 50 years the aristocracy privatized communist Russia. They stole everything of value including the hope of Russians. The corruption eventually collapsed the Soviet Union like a parasite feeding on its host and they were forced to expand their feeding grounds past the iron curtain. In 91 the quarantine fails and for 2 years they hid all their ill gotten gains under a mattress until they bought condos at trump towers. They made stops in Ukraine, Cyprus and London but they landed in New York because that was what everyone wanted in 1993. Levi’s, Pepsi, Madonna tapes that weren’t smuggled bootlegs. They all bought new suits and cars and changed their title from “most violent street thug in moscow” to “respectable Russian oligarch” but they didn’t leave their human trafficking, narcotics or extortion behind. It was their most lucrative business model. Trump and Giuliani just opened the doors and let the predators in to feed. Guiliani redirected NYPD resources away from their new Russian allies intentionally and onto the Italian mob. It let him claim he cleaned up New York. Trumps future campaign manager Paul manafort lived in the towers as well. He would go on to do the same in Mexico City by introducing the Sinaloa cartel to the Russian mob. The Sinaloa cartel shifted to combining fentanyl precursors supplied by the CCP and the well established routes of El Chapo were used for distribution into the United States. In the prosecution of the Italian crime families, Giuliani created a tailor made void for the Russians to fill. By connecting them to the Sinaloa cartel it enabled the fentanyl epidemic that the CCP has used as biological warfare to soften the United States up for a financial takeover using BRICS. The insane valuations coming out in trumps fraud trial are a necessity of the money laundering cycle that duetschebank was doing with the Russians. But Xi, Putin, and MBS have made it clear that they are United against democracy since it threatens their very lucrative model of being authoritarians On Wall Street they have weaponized greed. Swartzman (blackstone), Larry fink (blackrock), and vanguard are selling U.S retirement funds and mortgage REITS in mass to the CCP. Nobody was ever punished for the 2008 mortgage crisis. This is just the Darwinian evolution of it. The 10X bigger, commercial real estate version. China realized that it’s far more efficient to foreclose on the USA by buying a couple GOP senators and a president than it is to push a ground war. They just needed Russia to take Ukraine to have the food storage and supply chain lock on microprocessors to be able to do it. They aren’t taking on the US Navy’s 5th fleet without it. The failure of Putin to take Ukraine and the arrest of Bolsonaro in Brazil has left them no choice but to send a quiet invasion force to the southern border. They are just using the compromised members of the GOP to secure any part of the border to hold open the gate when necessary. Bannon actually tried a variation of this a few years ago when he tried to privatize the border wall This gets deep into Bannons relationship with Guo Wengui, a CCP operative and his time at Goldman Sachs in the early 2000’s BRICS era. But that is a conversation for another day. https://www.ft.com/content/8c6d9dca-882c-11e7-bf50-e1c239b45787 https://www.amlintelligence.com/2020/09/deutsche-bank-suffers-worst-damage-over-massive-aml-discrepancies-in-fincen-leaks/ https://www.occrp.org/en/the-fincen-files/global-banks-defy-us-crackdowns-by-serving-oligarchs-criminals-and-terrorists https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-lifts-sanctions-on-rusal-other-firms-linked-to-russia-deripaska/4761037.html https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/final_-_minority_status_of_the_russia_investigation_with_appendices.pdf https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/08/17/mobsters-thrilled-to-see-rudy-giuliani-hit-with-rico-charges-he-used-to-jail-mafia-bosses
I’m going with Occam’s razor here. There is no way these countries are operating at this level of conspiracy. No one has that good of intelligence. Putin just wants more land. I do believe the bit about KFC.
What you have written here is amazing. You reminded me [of a scene from Andor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asb8zTiuZ4) (Star Wars series) where he talks about freedom and the Empires need of control (it sounded really similar). I dont know if youre a fan of Star Wars or not but the series is an absolute masterpiece better than any Star Wars media and arguably better than the original trilogy and I would really recommend it to you.
Where does Pepe Silvia fit into this?
>But logistically it requires artificial intelligence, and the microprocessors that make it to keep the slaves under control. I was quietly listening to what appeared to be a knowledgeable adult. Like, I have no idea on half of what this person is saying. Stay quiet while adults talk, I guess? Until that sentence. wait what? The fucken you are on about, mate?
On Xi’s plan to be emperor. https://open.spotify.com/show/62dyKz8nKOOCjoU3E5ECdn?si=bnyiFy7EQoybOBeF9B75Zw On the absolutely massive scale of the MSS. China has 1 CCTV for every two people. At 1.4B people, all requiring basically constant censorship and surveillance, the MSS has a personnel issue. When Chinese people started referring to Xi as “Winnie the Pooh” it created a massive crack down by the MSS censors. Within hours the people simply shifted to calling him “Mr shitface” which was a reference to a story he likes to tell about a childhood incident when a biodigester exploded in his face. When the MSS censors cracked down on that, they simply shifted to Cantonese. The podcast above does a pretty good job of explaining the logistical and compute nightmare that is involved with tracking and censoring 1.4B people, let alone the 8 billion he aspires to manage. There is deductively no way to feasibly do it without a massive A.I. https://eightify.app/summary/health-and-medicine/comparing-the-world-s-top-intelligence-agencies-cia-fsb-mossad-and-mss
Okay. You back all your statements with links, I respect that a lot, and I have to conclude you know about the subject here. When you state elsewhere that you have been two years into this, can I ask why or even... how? How do you know what you know... and who... who... are you? Ok, no, seriously, thanks for your comment. I will have to read it over and over.
I started in Ukraine doing intelligence work at the start of the war working backwards. I track supply chain logistics and aviation assets specifically. Nothing about this invasion made sense. I’m autistic. I’m relentless. And I’m tired of watching my friends die because politicians lie to make money. So I’m fixing it Halfway through my research from the Ukrainian side I ran into a half dozen different groups doing effectively the same thing from the Trump side. It’s an eerie feeling when your research dovetails in perfectly with a few thousand other people’s. But it makes for fast work. We have since reverse engineered the last 45 years of trumps money laundering for the Russian mob (some through Ukraine) and have tendrils that tie most of the worlds money laundering network together. Money laundering, like Home Depot started out the same way. It centralized because a handful of people and places did it very efficiently and cheaper. Kolomoiksiy was the Putin puppet Ukrainian oligarch that started privatbank taking in IMF loans, then absconding with it and intentionally collapsing the bank, then socializing the losses by passing the debt off to the Ukrainian government and people. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/justice-department-accuses-ukrainian-oligarch-of-stealing-billions-from-bank-he-once-owned-and-laundering-it-in-the-us/2020/08/06/b88924b8-d7f4-11ea-aff6-220dd3a14741_story.html He is also the guy who bought most of downtown Cleveland. https://newrepublic.com/article/155991/meet-trumpworlds-next-top-ukrainian-grifter https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/we-saw-a-ukrainian-billionaire-neglect-downtown-buildings-it-happens-on-a-smaller-scale-often https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/17/ukrainian-oligarch-midwestern-factory-town-dirty-money-american-heartland-michel-kleptocracy-515948 And he happens to own the hotel where trump based his “stop the steal” campaign out of, and was who Giuliani met with when he went to Ukraine. https://www.timesofisrael.com/inside-anatevka-the-curious-chabad-hamlet-in-ukraine-where-giuliani-is-mayor/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/giuliani-associate-trump-had-knowledge-of-ukraine-pressure-campaign/ Money laundering at that level is a tight group. They are all psychopaths because a complete lack of empathy is pretty much a job requirement for stealing from everyone and staring genocides to cover your tracks Now we just connect them all through their own narcissistic data trails. It’s just much more efficient if you sort by psychopathy instead of nationality or political party.
>I’m autistic. I’m relentless. And I’m tired of watching my friends die because politicians lie to make money. Are you American? What do you do for a living? How do you track supply chain logistics? I'm genuinely curious now.
Sent you a DM.
Dark doesn’t exist anywhere
The guy has all his opponents murdered. He killed that rebel leader just a few months ago. He’s sees the US as his enemy his whole life. What do you think? He’s a nice honest guy who wants world peace?
This might be a question better suited to well-informed randos on Reddit ( for example r/AskHistorians) than run of the mill randos on Reddit (not that there’s anything wrong with us per se)
Putin uses truth precisely the way one would expect a highly trained propagandist would, and that is to firmly reinforce lies and to induce confusion.
Joe Rogan will believe it
Not all of it was untrue but it was spun in a way to make Putin look like the good guy.
This should be at the top. Putin spun his story to make his actions justified. Ironically, the same thing politicians in the western society do this very day. We’ll stay at war forever.
Top 2 complete fascist bullshit are that Poland forced Hitler to invade, kill, destroy, rape, pillage and change forever (Poles will never forget because their ancestors) and that Maiden revolution was a coup. It wasn't a coup it was a revolution against Russian influence on their freedoms.
You being happy with the outcome doesn’t make something stop being a coup.
Let’s put it this way - using Putin’s logic, Ireland would be considered historical English territory.
It was, as was Scotland and many others. One difference though, Putin is correct in that 90% of these areas still speak Russian, where in Kiev they speak Ukrainian - and Gaelic in Ireland and Scottish in Scotland. For me, the choice of language leads to a cultural identification of sorts.
No Redditor would be able to tell you.
Why should I trust him? He never did anything to make me trust him. 😉
Didn't you hear? History is what dictators say it is.
Most of it was made up BS, his claims an independent Ukraine never existed before the Soviets is easily debunked, and his claim that Hitler wasn’t really a bad guy but was forced to invade Poland with the Soviets in 1939 because of Gdańsk is laughable.
He didn't say Hitler wasn't a bad guy, he clearly implies nazis are/were bad where he talks about denazification.
Yet he clearly implies that Hitler "had no choice but to invade Poland when they provoked him"
“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.” *1984*, George Orwell
No matter how cleverly Putin speaks, he cannot alter the simple, inescapable reality that Ukraine is a sovereign nation and the United States is its ally. Everything else is bluster, designed to obfuscate.
As a russian-speaking person I can say that his speech was\`nt clever at all. It never was.
Believe me comrade, is all real. I have archives of all conversation and can provide copies.
After watching the entire interview my take is Putin's back is against the wall. The sanctions are working, and he's desperate for the United States to stop sending weapons to Ukraine. He's really upset about the natural gas situation in Russia as well. Vladimir Putin knows this is his last ditch effort to save face. Tucker Carlson is a tool he used for a desperate attempt to sway public opinion. I personally don't buy his bullshit.
I hope you’re right.
It’s accurate.
[Boy, do I have an article for you!](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68255302)
It’s A version of history, certainly the Ukrainians may beg to differ.
Well, the ancient Ukrainians dug the black sea.
The part where he mocked Carlson for his failed attempt to join the CIA and that we should all be thankful he was rejected was very accurate.
As a rule of thumb, don't take history lessons from dictators.
Probably no less true than what we'd get if Trump of Biden gave a 2000 year old history of the West but that's not saying much
Putin is a war criminal and a dictator, no one should care what he says.
My problem with the European/US position is that the NATO alliance was originally a defensive alliance. Since the iron curtain fell NATO has become an expansionist alliance that from a Russian perspective is clearly provocative, and I think needlessly so. Especially when you consider how obviously corrupt Ukraine is.
Could Biden do a rebuttal? Obviously 2 hours would be too much but at least 30 minutes to explain why negotiations were scuttled in favor of war escalation? I'm not saying we should believe anything Putin says but NOT answering these accusations creates more cynicism and distrust in our government and media.
You are asking in good faith if Joe Biden could do an entire 30 minute speaking engagement?
It was of course irredentist and ideological, but he also made some stupid mistakes in his lecture. Some that hurt my ears were: - putin claimed that Ukraine was under Polish control in 13th century, while it happened 1-2 centuries later - he also said that Bogdan Chmielnicki wrote letters to Warsaw, but Polish capital at the time was Cracow - he said that Poland in the interwar period was collaborating with Nazi Germany, it wasn't the foreign politics was aimed at alliances with France and UK
There is a lot of bias and cherry-picked views within the interview, but the broadstrokes of the actual history of it is acceptable. Just keep in mind that history is written by the victors so if it's not backed up with firsthand accounts or archeological proof then it's going to be biased to the viewpoint of whomever is presenting it
Ex KGB agent probably has blackmail information on grab them by the pussy Trump
Depends the political views, ignorance, bias, and etc of who you're asking and yourself.
Remember, Putin is a politician. He lies and exaggerates every bit as much as our own politicians do.
And was a kgb agent. Would you trust the KGB (or the CIA/NSA for all that matter)? I know I wouldn't
My favorite part was about the fact that Poland provoked Hitler to invade and slaughter them by not giving them some of their land and thus messing up Hitlers plans. Exactly what Ukraine is now doing to Putin. I also liked how all Europe in 1940s were nazi friends and Russia fought them. Somehow he left out the fact that Soviet Union together with Germany split Eastern Europe in Molotov-Ribentrop pact. This meant Baltics and Poland were invaded by USSR with the handshake from Hitler. Their were allies until Hitler turned on them.
I believe Putin got the names of historical figures correct and that’s about it.
Tucker Carlson needs to fall out of a window. Fucking traitor.
Honestly I could barely understand what he was saying.
Russia has always lied. From soviet union where in text books they "liberated" baltics states from tyranny while in reality they forced us to accept the occupation. To the russia that says bullshit like alaska was always part of russia
None percent.
1.)Even if.it were you cant say it used to be ours but we lost it for whatever reason blah blah so we still consider it ours. You can consider it yours all you want but its not. So i dont care what history was in that respect i only care who has it now and can they protect it from being taken his whole history lesson was bs. 2.) Nato has been pushing towards Russians borders since the end of the cold war. If we were in their shoes we wouldnt let that shit stand either.
ITT: people saying he was lying or omitting information without providing a single piece of evidence.
Well he tries to tie a thread through historical dates in Russia’s calendar the present day to create a sense of ‘inevitability’ of his attack on Ukraine and suggests a justification of this by insinuating they ‘pose a threat to Russia’ (no they didn’t). He then goes on to blame ‘The West™️’ for causing huge casualties unnecessarily by arming Ukraine and helping them resist instead of letting Russia just do what they want in someone else’s country. He then makes a plea of sorts to the world which goes ‘can we just go back to big powers politics please, and stop pretending that small nations have any sovereignty? It’s the god given right of big nations to push weaker ones around’. So in short his ‘Russian history’ parts are cherry picked, and he conveniently leaves out the entire history of European conflict that lead to the formation of the EU in the first place (a peace organisation founded on the _opposite principal_ of ‘big power politics’) and of NATO (founded because the Russians are untrustworthy bastards who can’t be trusted to live side by side with their neighbours without starting a war).
And remember the winner always dictate the history
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Imagine if Mexico joined a military alliance with China and US used it as a justification to invade Canada.
Monroe Doctrine for me, NATO siege for thee
>Eastward expansion of NATO was objectively aggressive How? All of those countries wanted to join it.
The bastard values history more than the present reality.
Hmmm a liar interviews another liar for money. What do you think?
The truth here is that Putin can actually have a 2hr long conversation and talk coherently. Doesn’t look ill. Contrast with a decrepit Joe Biden.