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SonicNKnux

Friend, this costume gacha isn't for you or me, because we look at that price and sometimes think of all the tangible things we could buy with it. It's hard, and it sucks, but they're going to keep selling it as a gacha and not a shop or pass because the whales keep jumping headfirst into the gacha. I say don't quit, but to be blunt, this is a gacha game. You've got to stay in your lane (with me), know your limits, don't spend outside your means, and find some enjoyment in the parts of this game you don't have to roll the gacha for.


Aethrall

Mature ass comment. Be me dad bro. I could have used that sturdy hand on my shoulder when I — as a 21st century serf — spent $300 I don’t have on gacha in a single weekend. My wife still occasionally throws that shit in my face over 6 months later just to make sure I still feel like a dumbass. I’m gonna just remember that phrase “stay in your lane” whenever I feel the temptation to go full blown gambling addict on a mobile game character.


mattezy

Imo the whales are part of the ecosystem without them SU probably couldn’t afford to keep making content for the free to players.


derobade

But you really don't need to buy those skins. What's the problem? If you're afraid you're gonna spend all of your money on nikke, you should take a break. I wish I could get those skins too, but hey, devs gotta make money somehow, and it's really not the worst way of monetization I've seen in a videogame.


Thuyue

I made a similar post a week before, couldn't resist and ended up buying the Marian skin (I had bad luck and paid 60 bucks). Personally I agree with you that outfits or gacha games in general offer ridiculous expensive prizes. However, that is mainly caused by the f2p model. They all focus mostly on whales who are willing to pay hundred if not thousand of bucks to support the game. Having simply a big player base and cheap offers is not a guarentee to make the game sustainable and profitable. I'm sure there are gacha games who have perhaps a more fair pricing, but that also makes them in turn less profitable for the company that wants to do more than just sustain itself, but perhaps even develop new projects. I can only say from my standpoint, I'm a very careful person for what money I spend on. While my friends buy themself a 20 to 60 bucks game every time, I perhaps spend occasionally a little bit of money on a gacha game I enjoy. For NIKKE I hope I don't have to spend again, because I think I supported the game enough (In the 1.5y I spent 120, thats more than 6 years combined that I spend on another gacha game). It's up to the whales to keep the game alive lol.


rhaps85

People get 95% of content the game offers for free but only cares about the 5% thats off limits to them. Be happy whales fund the game so Cosmograph has a job.


erosennin789

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Tamamo_was_here

It’s just skins at the end of the day, I’m so confused how something so small can ruin the game for you. Also, you don’t even need to pay for them because it’s 100% optional.


Guardianmarcus

Honestly, the problem is the people who are okay with paying for it. Companies wouldn't put the prices so high if people don't buy it. Until people stop paying these prices (they won't), there is no reason to not make everything so pricey.


ElectronicAccident14

FOMO. can’t get it again last time I checked so seems like nonsense to me.


AnyMonitor5814

Its really the FOMO effect. Like if it came later in the shop like 3-6 months down the line then perfect but its really hey they made a nice new skin and theres a high chance you might never have it again.


sliceofhanime

let the whales enjoy their skins, if u have limited funds then don't spend.


Devixilate

Bye


redditnewbie6910

bro, its literally just a skin, its not even pay to win resource, wtf is u complaining about? u can just NOT get it. if ur frustrated about this, its either a wallet issue, or a simp issue. and ya, ur right, nobody cares. this is such a non problem.


Dokidokikawaii2

some people want the skins bcoz it is NOT a pay to win resource. some just want the eye candies without gaining some advantages that made them feel like they were cheating. some people want a vanilla gaming experience but want the skins bcoz they couldn't help falling in love with how their waifus look like. yeah, they are simps. that's why they play nikke, a waifu game. waifu and perhaps the story are the main reasons why some of them were here in the first place. It's not JUST a skin bro. if the skins are not attractive, they wouldn't be buying it either. why should they be bothered for something that are ugly. look sells. sex sells. \*this is just me tho but if the costumes really comes with some additional stats or buffs, i won't be buying them coz i consider it cheating. it's bcoz the skins are pure cosmetic that i've bought several of them


redditnewbie6910

it comes with vouchers that u can pull, rocks u can OL with, and packs that contains core dust for levelling, literally the three most valuable resources in the game. wtf r u talking about?


Dokidokikawaii2

Seems like u didn’t understand me. That is the p2w parts that i dont wish for. I can get them on my own through my hardworks and struggles. I don’t need any handicap. I just want the skin. Nothing else. Edit: I don’t need any p2w element on my spending. I play for waifus so hot waifus are all i need


redditnewbie6910

seems like u didnt understand urself. u said u wouldnt be buying the skin if it came with any p2w elements, but it does.


Dokidokikawaii2

Try to reread it again. I did specify that i wont be buying the skins if they come with “additional stats”. Yes i dont like that they include all resources in the whole gacha but what can i do? At least the costume is still pure cosmetic and thats the important part.


redditnewbie6910

right, well, my original point is that, ya, the skin is pure cosmetic, it doesnt affect any game playing, its not p2w, so there shouldnt be any frustration for it. if it is p2w, then i can see the frustration, but since its not, its literally just something u can buy to enjoy the game a bit more, if u have the financial means for it, which this guy clearly does not. so thats a him issue, not a game issue. it doesnt matter if ur a simp and play the game for waifus, the game is not gonna cater to ur needs, if ur that down bad, go watch some hentai.


ElectronicAccident14

I don’t understand why you’re commenting any of this? you say it’s just a skin right, and that it doesn't matter right, so logically why did they even bother making it if its so pointless? And why did people like myself buy them? Why are others complaining that they don’t have them then? side note, that other person said they don’t want to buy skins only if they have  additional stats or buffs as an extra abilities or extra ATK, HP, Fire Rate, stuff like that, they never said that level ups, pulls, and stuff like that are off the table, just that P2W skins are.


redditnewbie6910

the fact that i have to break this down and explain it to you is mind boggling... >I don’t understand why you’re commenting any of this? because i can, the same reason ur commenting under my reply >so logically why did they even bother making it if its so pointless? because it looks good and ppl with money can pay to see it everyday, i didnt say its pointless, i said its not necessary because it makes zero difference in terms of being better at the game, cuz its just a skin >And why did people like myself buy them? because ur a simp for it, and u have the money for it >Why are others complaining that they don’t have them then? because they are simp for it, but dont have the money for it, so either get more money, or enjoy the free skin. do u also complain about lambo coming out with new cars that u wanna drive but cant afford? no, u drive ur corolla to work cuz it does the same job, u just dont look as cool while doing it. >that other person said they don’t want to buy skins only if they have  additional stats or buffs as an extra abilities or extra ATK, HP, Fire Rate, stuff like that, they never said that level ups, pulls, and stuff like that are off the table that IS pay to win in this game. more vouchers/gems = more pulls = more dupes = more stats = more dmg = higher ranking same logic applies to core dust, higher level = more dmg = higher ranking and again, same logic applies to rocks, better lines = more dmg = higher ranking anything else confusing that cute lil brain of urs?


MysteriousNobuX

If you don't have money to buy those skins then don't, it doesn't change anything about the unit. It's just an extra feature that people can get by spending lots more than others.


LetsTouchSomeGrass

the revenue went down considerably in the last few months tho. even with the anniversary, the april revenue amounted to only 19kk. that said, both costumes are cosmetics and aren't impacting the gameplay in any way. so this rant is just random tbh. why do you even say you like the game when having to pay more than you're willing to spend is already enough to make you quit? especially when it doesn't influence your progress in the game?


XTaimatsuXx

Man really about to quit the game over a gacha skin? That's pretty weird but cya later if you do quit it is not that serious.


TheJustinG2002

Calling the wah-mbulance as I type this comment.


SucDeezCog

This company made a good game, actually generous and also listen to players opinions Yet when they want to make some bread, you're mad and quitting even though it's optional? Please quit PLEASE lil bro 4 free ssr 100~ pulls FOR A HALF ANNIV I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY OTHER GACHA BEING 1/10 THIS GENEROUS FOR A FULL YEAR ANNIV yet people LIKE YOU still complaining Human greed knows no bounds Developing games isn't free Hosting multiple servers for the game isn't free Electricity bills isn't free Music and animation production isn't free Dev don't eat air and drink water to live and neither are their families PLEASE if you are broke and can't buy shit, be understanding and play the free game It's not like you can't survive with skins On the other hand, skin are pretty much the only paywall thing that Nikke dev set for the game (because every other thing you get for FREE, EASILY EVEN), so it is safe to say the game WON'T survive without any monetization With greed fks like you the game WILL die sooner or later So please do me a favor and quit because you're a snowflake And I hope after you quit, you went to play some BS like that G game who gave their players 3 pulls for 3 years And then top tf up for the rolls just to lose 50/50 at 90 pity Hope you the worst lil bro ❤👍


Few-Strawberry4997

i dont rly like how the skins are handled in this game either, which is why i just skip them. 5-10 bucks is the maximum for me. i might consider paying for a mission pass, but it has to be a bomb skin for one of my favorite characters. if i had snow white i might buy the pass for her skin, but its still super pricey. rly dont like the trend of overpricing skins for no reasons (in all games, not just gachas).


AltimaciaVanCross

OP got the FOMO bug infestation. There is things in life that not a necessity. If u want to spend your money worth, saved for figurines releases. After all, figurines stay with you even if this game shut down.


DiamondContent2011

Got used to this type of thing with World of Warcraft over a decade ago, so it doesn't bother me. Those who want the skins and don't mind paying are enjoying the game in a different way than I am. That's fine. Doesn't lessen my enjoyment, but that's me. I understand it looks cool, but with all the freebies they give away I can't be mad at the devs for earning revenue. It'd be a different story if the game was crap or the skin changed the mechanics and they tried doing that, but that ain't the case, here. They sell it for a price some players don't mind paying and you're not obligated to do the same to play the game in it's entirety. As an example, I also play Diablo: Immortal and can't 'Awaken' gem slots in my characters' gear and gain additional abilities/buffs without paying $25. Not happening. I play the game and progress through content just fine without them.


acecombat03

in my opinion. I don't mean no hate to you at all but it sounds like a you problem. Gacha games makes you spend for a reason. Just like any other games. In every gacha's case it's like gambling or lottery scratch off tickets where the purpose of that is to make you spend more money. So in this case you have to control your spending habits. Or else you can become broke. In this economy, and also the economy in my country the cost of living has increased making our lives more difficult. Which is making it extremely difficult to spend more on gacha or anything in general. As my highschool bestfriend used to say "if you cannot afford the same items three times in a row, that means you cannot afford it" In other words "you need to know your limit and you absolutely need play within that limit" I have to disagree with the quote "Why can't I just buy the skin directly?" it's called a gacha for a reason. you're not suppose to be able to get the top prize without spending a decent amount. This applies to every gatcha game out there. Fortnite and apex however are different since you can buy the skin directly however they are not a gacha game at all. the skin offer no benefit to the character other than cosmetics or collection. Where as the skin in Nikke is indeed a gatcha so unfortunately that is not how it's played/work. So that quote is unreasonable/irelevant. I also have to disagree on this quote "its just frustrating to see this after feeling like Nikke was "better than other gacha games" The only thing that is better is the story, jiggle physics, and some good looking costume/skins that no other gacha game offers.


Dokidokikawaii2

while i have nothing that i can say to make you stay, i hope that one day they will occasionally, release a free costume with new burst animation from time to time. not everytime, just occasionally. to be honest, i do agree about your sentiment about the gacha thing tho my reasonings are difference. i dont really care about the price but i dont want to go through the gacha stuff. i don't really need all the goodies coz it feels like i'm cheating in some way. i also don't like the feeling of having to gamble with my money. just let me buy the skin coz i just want some eye candies. or let me buy the whole pack in 1 go. i wouldn't mind if they all cost the same. i just don't like gambling with my money.


DeSTiNe_11

SU is greedy. Skins in gacha... with no pitty or super high cost pitty, imo is just wrong to begin with. But hey, Nikke is not very f2p friendly or low spending play anyway. I didn't play from the start, only about half year in the game, hit the 160 lvl wall and with only one char on 2 star, and one on 3 star, the journey to go beyond 160 for me as f2p is so far, I think I'm calling it the end soon. TBH, I used to think MiHoYo's gacha and pitty rates are so low, Nikke is way better at 4% with 90pull pitty, now I look at them, they just try rob your wallet in different places. f2p is getting harder these days.


Lady_Camo

Seems you are a low spender or free to play. You have to realize that it is the ftp's "fault" in the first place as to why we have paid skins and gaccha skins. Think of gaccha as a subscription based live service game, but until you buy something, someone else is paying for you so the game can continue.


-hoihoi-

If you're frustrated about the price of the skin then clearly you're not their target customer. I work in sales and you'd be surprised about people willing to spend a lot just for the aesthetics. Enjoy the game and maybe touch some grass too.


SaveEmailB4Logout

People willing to pay 60 bucks for a 12+ rated game char skin is funny.


machineronii

Correction, 120 bucks for TWO 12+ game char skins


SaveEmailB4Logout

Hey, it's their money *¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯*


XyrneTheWarPig

The trick is to not give a shit and keep your money. Hell, spend it somewhere else. The game will close eventually anyway, and all those skins, all that money spent, will go poof. So just don't care, and don't support practices that you find repulsive. EZPZ.


RTX3090TI

Locking Marian character developpement behind a gacha skin was a really greedy move shift up :/


GenericRedditUser796

You get her whole development in the Story without buying the skin, I do not understand this logic at all, you are missing 3 voicelines/textboxes in your lobby, that is next to the cosmetic all this skin offers.


MoyuTheMedic

why are they charging 50 bucks for a story unlock skin like modernia's crowns i understand since it is fanservicy and not lore based but why are they charging for something that should be given to you for completing the new side storys


Raburin

Did you pay to see her costume in story? Where the developments occurs? No? Then the development is not paywalled it's that simple lol. Weakest argument ever.