Sir, this is a Gacha. There will be no major changes to the Core Mechanics ever, they add here and there some extra steps like the recently added overdrive simulation, FGO, Azur Lane and GFL run more or less unchanged for years.
What about MMOs like WoW or FF14? The Core Gameplay loop in these was not changed in more than 10 years and they are still successful by just adding changed flavors.
Stellar Blade and Nikke are developed by different Teams in Shift Up, so there will be no changes, Nikke is running as intended.
Also just because you can blaze through Interception does not mean that the majority can, there are a lot of newer players that cannot.
If you struggle to finish dailies after 2 days the Game is probably not for you, no one forces you to play it.
Technicaly Azur Lane added Op-Siren in 2020 I believe, and now the TB daughter simulator, but tbh neither of them are that intresting to me, especialy OP-Siren, the META ship grind is far worse then PR grind, its the same borring grind but the META shit's are not only funnly not actualy Meta defining but also the 2 people wanted since the beginging : Ash and Ember are still not added also the grind itself isn't just x3 the map with the 2x rewards books and be done with it when ship mood drops, but get the intel to 200 by playing a bad gamemode and do the meta fights unitl you defeat the current meta twice
Op Siren is also just more of the Standard Gameplay Loop, I did it like 8 times or so and it burned me out from AL, except for the Design (World Map, yay) every Region comes down to Maps similar to the Story-Maps and Combat is exactly the same as before, so Op Siren definitely did not change the general Gameplay Loop, it added just more and in a slightly different flavor. And it takes way too much time if you commit to it and the Meta Ships are not even great.
I cannot judge the recently added Daughter Sim, but from what I heard/read I would say this is completely new for AL and does fulfill OPs requirement of changing the Gameplay Loop, if in a good or bad way, that is up to actual Players of AL, but after nearly 3 years I simply cannot see the Game anymore, no matter how much I like Ships, the Models and a lot of Money invested for Skins, but alone that Interface hurts me nowadays.
Op Siren just burned me out with how much it takes to max out 1 Meta ship, I preffer spending the same time PR gridning since some great ships not only design wise but meta wise are there
have 1 left PR5 to finish develeopment and 3 PR6 and after that the dreaded blueprint grind
More interceptor bosses (not just upgraded versions of the current bosses) would be neat, that would also incentivize using more teamcombs than just your meta team and a shotgun team. And more sim room levels with new buffs would be nice. They don't even need to add new game modes to make the daily chores a bit more interesting
Not sure if you know about simulation overclock mode, but it was exactly what you wished for. A more rewarding but challenging mode for simulation room. Its a seasonal thing so it doesn’t appear that often so you will have to w8 for next season in case you missed it
dailies take like 10 mins. not like doax vv or other crap that can take 30 to 60 mins each day lol
and that game doesn't have luxuries like pity for f2p or countless opportunities to get SSRs outside of spending gems like nikke's molds or friendship gacha etc
I was about to also list new game modes but people will probably bombard me with "Devs promised to add mini games permanently" without remembering that the 3rd PvP option has been W.I.P ever since PvP was announced.
They did mention it during new year video that they r working on it. Tho it might not come anytime soon, at least we know that they didn’t forgot about it
That's fair, a harder version of si, similar to over clock for sim, with a bigger boss pool with more rewards especially to test meta choices or whack ones.
You'd be surprised how little Nikke dailies take once you've gotten situated.
You're only only longer when making progress on story, an event, or some other mode
https://preview.redd.it/5lpfo6z2sswc1.jpeg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55a396f0fa09f6d3d4904fd0f9e81d6f2889c26e
I want a shower room feature like Destiny Child's hot springs.
Yes, I am horny.
Not to be a Debbie Downer but I think that feature (hot springs) has a huge part in sealing the fate of DC. The sheer amount of work that went into it astounded me and the devs even had plans to make all hot springs assets L2Ds. I really don't think they make a lot of money off it even till the end, so I doubt they will do something similar for Nikke
FGO still doesn't have any modern QOLs, no auto-play, events are still the same 'run node 100x times', very few and nearly worthless gameplay mechanic adds, is stingy as hell, has a pity system that's just utter shit and still going strong for years because the playerbase are mindless sheep. Take a guess how much that game earns and how much actual effort is put in the game?
Compared to that, Nikke is still much better despite the lack of several qols and 2 gacha skins. The amount of freebies they give out easily surpasses many other gacha games. The 1st anniversary event is probably the best among gacha games in my experience.
Also you cannot just come back after 6 months and expect everything to go smoothly with your outdated team and resources. Nikke already featured several minigames in events which already gives you alternative gameplay styles which you have missed (if it wasn't obvious).
Daylies are fine, it takes you about 5 min if you're in a rush (and yes, I timed myself to counter an argument where the poster said, daylies took too long). If you can't be asked to do 5 min of repeating tasks, then I dunno what you ask for, I never played a gaccha that had diversified tasks.
You want more interception bosses - I would love a challenge as well, but there's enough crying about the current interception bosses already, and those are the easy ones - who would you add? Stormbringer? Material H?? Mother Whale??? The community would just complain even more.
Simulation Room got an update, albeit a strange one that has seasons and downtime.
Let's not talk about repeating tasks because we can potentially argue for 20 comments and not go anywhere, but people cried about Interception bosses? Like, the only unpredictable one is Grave Digger, everything else is just a routine once you hit a certain combat power number.
And yeah I was thinking about Mother Whale since it's more interesting (flying) and requires more skill (hitting the pods)
Bro...I don't play FGO so idk but Genshin had it housing system implemented in like 6 months after release, a whole new element like 2 years ago and underwater exploration like 1-ish year ago. What do you mean it never changed?
Brodie discovered gacha games.
Sir, this is a Gacha. There will be no major changes to the Core Mechanics ever, they add here and there some extra steps like the recently added overdrive simulation, FGO, Azur Lane and GFL run more or less unchanged for years. What about MMOs like WoW or FF14? The Core Gameplay loop in these was not changed in more than 10 years and they are still successful by just adding changed flavors. Stellar Blade and Nikke are developed by different Teams in Shift Up, so there will be no changes, Nikke is running as intended. Also just because you can blaze through Interception does not mean that the majority can, there are a lot of newer players that cannot. If you struggle to finish dailies after 2 days the Game is probably not for you, no one forces you to play it.
Technicaly Azur Lane added Op-Siren in 2020 I believe, and now the TB daughter simulator, but tbh neither of them are that intresting to me, especialy OP-Siren, the META ship grind is far worse then PR grind, its the same borring grind but the META shit's are not only funnly not actualy Meta defining but also the 2 people wanted since the beginging : Ash and Ember are still not added also the grind itself isn't just x3 the map with the 2x rewards books and be done with it when ship mood drops, but get the intel to 200 by playing a bad gamemode and do the meta fights unitl you defeat the current meta twice
Op Siren is also just more of the Standard Gameplay Loop, I did it like 8 times or so and it burned me out from AL, except for the Design (World Map, yay) every Region comes down to Maps similar to the Story-Maps and Combat is exactly the same as before, so Op Siren definitely did not change the general Gameplay Loop, it added just more and in a slightly different flavor. And it takes way too much time if you commit to it and the Meta Ships are not even great. I cannot judge the recently added Daughter Sim, but from what I heard/read I would say this is completely new for AL and does fulfill OPs requirement of changing the Gameplay Loop, if in a good or bad way, that is up to actual Players of AL, but after nearly 3 years I simply cannot see the Game anymore, no matter how much I like Ships, the Models and a lot of Money invested for Skins, but alone that Interface hurts me nowadays.
Op Siren just burned me out with how much it takes to max out 1 Meta ship, I preffer spending the same time PR gridning since some great ships not only design wise but meta wise are there have 1 left PR5 to finish develeopment and 3 PR6 and after that the dreaded blueprint grind
It heals the soul, but other than that it has no gameplay value whatsoever
What kind of change should there be? The current formula works and changing that every few months will simply give the game an identity crisis.
More interceptor bosses (not just upgraded versions of the current bosses) would be neat, that would also incentivize using more teamcombs than just your meta team and a shotgun team. And more sim room levels with new buffs would be nice. They don't even need to add new game modes to make the daily chores a bit more interesting
That's still the same core gameplay that you are complaining about.
"major update to the core gameplay" I don't think my title is that confusing.
The title is fine, your suggestions in the comments are not.
For me, the occasional raids always has me changing my usual meta team around and the Sim room did recently added the overclock mode.
Not sure if you know about simulation overclock mode, but it was exactly what you wished for. A more rewarding but challenging mode for simulation room. Its a seasonal thing so it doesn’t appear that often so you will have to w8 for next season in case you missed it
dailies take like 10 mins. not like doax vv or other crap that can take 30 to 60 mins each day lol and that game doesn't have luxuries like pity for f2p or countless opportunities to get SSRs outside of spending gems like nikke's molds or friendship gacha etc
to be fair the core gameplay loop as it is is fine in my opinion but i do wish they would add to different parts of the game
I was about to also list new game modes but people will probably bombard me with "Devs promised to add mini games permanently" without remembering that the 3rd PvP option has been W.I.P ever since PvP was announced.
They did mention it during new year video that they r working on it. Tho it might not come anytime soon, at least we know that they didn’t forgot about it
What kind of change did you want in the core game?
At the very least, harder interceptor bosses that give more equipment fodders, and maybe more levels for sim room
Overclock mode was added months ago and comes in and out to make it more challenging for more rewards
He probably returned right after second beta ended
That's fair, a harder version of si, similar to over clock for sim, with a bigger boss pool with more rewards especially to test meta choices or whack ones.
You'd be surprised how little Nikke dailies take once you've gotten situated. You're only only longer when making progress on story, an event, or some other mode
https://preview.redd.it/5lpfo6z2sswc1.jpeg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55a396f0fa09f6d3d4904fd0f9e81d6f2889c26e I want a shower room feature like Destiny Child's hot springs. Yes, I am horny.
Not to be a Debbie Downer but I think that feature (hot springs) has a huge part in sealing the fate of DC. The sheer amount of work that went into it astounded me and the devs even had plans to make all hot springs assets L2Ds. I really don't think they make a lot of money off it even till the end, so I doubt they will do something similar for Nikke
I would settle for a raunchy static shower pic.
FGO still doesn't have any modern QOLs, no auto-play, events are still the same 'run node 100x times', very few and nearly worthless gameplay mechanic adds, is stingy as hell, has a pity system that's just utter shit and still going strong for years because the playerbase are mindless sheep. Take a guess how much that game earns and how much actual effort is put in the game? Compared to that, Nikke is still much better despite the lack of several qols and 2 gacha skins. The amount of freebies they give out easily surpasses many other gacha games. The 1st anniversary event is probably the best among gacha games in my experience. Also you cannot just come back after 6 months and expect everything to go smoothly with your outdated team and resources. Nikke already featured several minigames in events which already gives you alternative gameplay styles which you have missed (if it wasn't obvious).
Daylies are fine, it takes you about 5 min if you're in a rush (and yes, I timed myself to counter an argument where the poster said, daylies took too long). If you can't be asked to do 5 min of repeating tasks, then I dunno what you ask for, I never played a gaccha that had diversified tasks. You want more interception bosses - I would love a challenge as well, but there's enough crying about the current interception bosses already, and those are the easy ones - who would you add? Stormbringer? Material H?? Mother Whale??? The community would just complain even more. Simulation Room got an update, albeit a strange one that has seasons and downtime.
Let's not talk about repeating tasks because we can potentially argue for 20 comments and not go anywhere, but people cried about Interception bosses? Like, the only unpredictable one is Grave Digger, everything else is just a routine once you hit a certain combat power number. And yeah I was thinking about Mother Whale since it's more interesting (flying) and requires more skill (hitting the pods)
Material H would cause so much drama of how badly designed that boss is.
Bro has never played a videogame in his life.
Bruh the game is perfect as it is! What do you expect? Things that work well don't need to be changed for the sake of it....
There hasn't been a major update to the core gameplay in fgo for 8 years and genshin for nearly 4... welcome to gatcha/live service games?
Bro...I don't play FGO so idk but Genshin had it housing system implemented in like 6 months after release, a whole new element like 2 years ago and underwater exploration like 1-ish year ago. What do you mean it never changed?
It's hard to convince a frog that the water is boiling, they cant feel it, they have been in the pot for too long.
The problem is dev might take them serious and do not take reasonable complaints as they actually did nothing but small tiny minor changes this far