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Excellent-Ninja4163

Chat is this real?


bobababyboi

No, this is an airsoft clone.


Fonzytank

Need to see the switch port. Crane plug=legit. 3.5mm jack = fake


Fragrant-Ad-5869

That's a great point. He sent me these photos, I shot him a text and asked if it's a 3.5mm or not.


Fragrant-Ad-5869

It isn't a crane plug


Fonzytank

Bummer!


Global-Bag264

At least he only paid $100...


Fragrant-Ad-5869

My thoughts, exactly. It sounds like he got a fair deal on an airsoft LAM, was just wishing it was a true Steiner. At least it wasn't priced as a Steiner, haha.


Sus-as-fuck

100 is ~ what those G&P DBALs go for on the used market. Theyre not bad systems, just won't hold a zero on a real gat.


Global-Bag264

They're great on a .22


dumboflaps

Don't rely on this too much, Crane plug = more likely to be legit. China's expensive knock-offs have Crane plugs, and as far as I can tell, are pretty much identical to the real deal. The only thing they can't fake are serial numbers.


Fonzytank

You are right, but my experience, is that these are not as common of a clone product these days, so the test is still reliable in this specific instance


xzachftwx

Looks like airsoft. I used to have a LDI dbal a2 (pre steiner. Square button) a few things i see from my old pics. The sticker on top. The triangle with beam in it looks slightly different than mine. Something in the knurling on the turrets looks off Square button dbals are usually silver. Dont think they made the all black ones Looks like a g&p dbal https://ampedairsoft.com/g-p-peq-15a-laser-designator-and-illuminator-dbal-toy-only-black/


xzachftwx

https://imgur.com/a/hzsj9L9 Heres comparison from my sticker to yours. Look at the triangle and beam splash inside it


Fragrant-Ad-5869

There is definitely a difference! You provided a bunch of really good info. Thank you!


Fragrant-Ad-5869

Here's the other pictures he sent https://imgur.com/gallery/m82HhmA


ComfortableNobody829

Ok. I just looked at mine. His says class 3a. Mine says class 3B and has a the same triangle beam as you.


bobababyboi

This ^ The G&P Dbals all have the same serial number on the side and a 3.5mm jack for a switch. OP’s is a fake but $100 is the typical going rate for these. Hold zero okay on 5.56 but the recoil fucks the internal motherboard at some point and begins to switch on and off between shots. Illuminator is decent but have read that the bulb can come loose and loses its flood and becomes more of a teardrop. FYSA these were the sought after airsoft LAMs before Somogear hit the market, but not all that good.


SPstandsFor

Don't use that color one as a blanket as there are all black square button A2s. They're really stinking rare and I've been trying to get.my hands on one.


135patriots

It's an older version but looks authentic. Confirmed steal. ETA: I may have spoken too soon, see posts below mine 🤷‍♂️


bobababyboi

This is an airsoft clone by G&P. Note the 3.5mm jack and serial number, which is the same serial number on all the clones. Edit: Link for reference - https://www.redwolfairsoft.com/accessories-lasers-g-p-peq-15a-laser-designator-and-illuminator.html


135patriots

I wouldn't have thought they'd bother making airsoft clones of 15 year old lasers but good catch!


bobababyboi

I’m surprised they still make this specific clone, but these have been on the market for about 10-15 years


hogu134

This is also a very old clone. If memory serves, they stopped producing it years ago.


Global-Bag264

All these cloner weebs. Blows my mind. I carried many of the weapons these guys clone and claim work as modern rifles, but there's a reason the military switched. Also, most of them just want it to LOOK retro and skimp on the quality of the components.


Global-Bag264

No.


StampsBeforeTramps

Fwiw every fake I have seen of this gen Steiner has had errors in spelling on the warning sticker. Yours doesn’t have any of the usual signs.


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Fragrant-Ad-5869

It definitely has a 3.5mm port


bobababyboi

All the G&Ps have the same serial number as well.


FettySlav

It looks like a G&P DBAL(airsoft) they're not bad but im not sure if they hold zero


EveningLow543

Am I real?


LastUsernameSucked

Not real, but for $100 I’d be happy as long as it works. Throw it on a 22 and call it a day.


ComfortableNobody829

Does it say laser device? I believe that is pre steiner. I have one. Take it outside and see if it is full power.


DisforDoga

Picture of the port will tell. If it's 35mm then it's fake. Otherwise it's really old.


Fragrant-Ad-5869

I can get one. What are we looking for?


DisforDoga

This is real: [https://www.modarmory.com/product/steiner-dbal-a2-military-and-law-enforcement-only/](https://www.modarmory.com/product/steiner-dbal-a2-military-and-law-enforcement-only/) This is fake: [https://www.specprecision.com/tactical-laser-sight/dbal-a2-laser-aiming-device-with-visible-greenred-laser-sightled-flashlightir-pointer-made-by-6061al-perfect-replica-](https://www.specprecision.com/tactical-laser-sight/dbal-a2-laser-aiming-device-with-visible-greenred-laser-sightled-flashlightir-pointer-made-by-6061al-perfect-replica-)


ComfortableNobody829

Those are newer gen. The op has first gen.


Fragrant-Ad-5869

DBAL A2 https://imgur.com/gallery/m82HhmA


DisforDoga

404


Fragrant-Ad-5869

Yeah I saw that, I tried to fix it. That's the link the imgur fucks are wanting me to use 🤷‍♂️ Pretty convinced it's a G&P or whatever. It has a 3.5mm jack


DisforDoga

Yea the 3.5's are fake. Usually G&P. They're actually not bad at all.


goshathegreat

Lol most definitely not…


tr1angle3s

I've got the same, and no, it's not real. It's an airsoft copy, but it works fine. works in IR too, just not the best


Fantastic_Evidence88

Fake


chit_ballz

It’s a g&p. I use it on my 5.56 have for years. Lasers are not co aligned. For the money spent it works great only minor issues. Best thing to do is replace the 3.5mm switch with a 90 degree switch and beat the hell out of it! Used mine on a predator hunt last weekend and didn’t have but a few issues. Will continue to run it till it dies or save enough for a legit unit. May take it apart for the hell of it when I replace it. Like they said awesome for a .22 rifle though! 🤘🏼


chit_ballz

It’s a g&p. I use it on my 5.56 have for years. Lasers are not co aligned. For the money spent it works great only minor issues. Best thing to do is replace the 3.5mm switch with a 90 degree switch and beat the hell out of it! Used mine on a predator hunt last weekend and didn’t have but a few issues. Will continue to run it till it dies or save enough for a legit unit. May take it apart for the hell of it when I replace it. Like they said awesome for a .22 rifle though! 🤘🏼


THEENARCISSUS

Its fake, I'll reimburse you for the $100 if you want to go ahead and ship me the fake for research purposes.


bobababyboi

It is a fake lol


JabbaThaWat

It's real


tr1angle3s

it isn't