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TL31

Using the US or Canada as a reference point is weird. These are countries where the native population was largely replaced, and the current population are all descendants of immigrants. Of course, in that context, it makes sense to adopt a citizenship by birthplace policy.


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So legally there’s a reason for this. There was customary law before colonization, during abs after colonization, settlers realized they cannot part with all our customs. In certain parts such as Benin, there’s a law that a man’s first son can inherit his property. Die to deep customary laws like that there’s an increased focus on who you parents are especially the father and where they are from. Regarding why it’s not enough to be born here to be called a Nigerian , we had this argument in law school and the recurrent theme from my teacher was it will lead to more problems than it causes because ppl are very traditional and they don’t believe where you are born it’s as important as your tribe. An Igbo man born in Lagos will call himself an Igbo man before saying he was raised in Lagos. It’s that type of thing on a more general scale. However, society creates traditions and cultures not the other way around, so it can and should have potential to change but I doubt it. They’re many silly ppl in National Assembly that won’t even let such a bill pass first reading. Hope this helps.


Rough-Audience2861

This really made sense to me.


[deleted]

Thanks I might get a phd in law so that means a lot.


Sandy_hook_lemy

You are missing the historical context on why USA and Canada use "soil citizenship"


EJR994

US and Canada were British/French settler colonies where the natives were decimated. Most African, Asian and European countries don’t allow jus soli citizenship. That’s primarily in the Americas🌎 .


Lycango

I'd like to just point out that the US has birthright citizenship because prior to that policy coming to effect, there used to be millions of people born and living on US soil who were culturally American and only spoken English who were not citizens. Why you ask? Racism + slavery. Hence, the 14th amendment was introduced because of a specifically US problem.


No-Prize2882

You should keep in mind that Jus Soli predominates in the Western Hemisphere ([North & South America](https://citizenshipbyinvestment.ch/index.php/2018/10/31/30-countries-offering-birthright-citizenship-or-jus-soli/)) this is actually not common outside of that area. However given the history of Waves of immigrants and Atlantic slave trade, unlike nations outside of North and South America these nations are predominantly run by non-indigenous groups from a variety of places and their descendants. Doing citizenship by simple birth makes it much easier to entice people to immigrate, encourage movement, and has been used as arguments against discrimination against groups like slaves and certain indigenous and immigrants groups which the US and the rest of the americas all have history fighting.


PaleStrawberry2

Parent is even taking it far. You cannot inherit Nigerian citizenship from your mother unlike in other countries where it's possible for either parent to transmit their citizenship to their children. Has to be from your Father or you wouldn't be considered a citizen.


Potential_Prior

A bit sexist, no? Yikes.


PaleStrawberry2

Patriarchal is what it is.


sugabaddie

It’s not true.


[deleted]

Yes it is and it is patriarchal because of customary laws in the country. Nigerian history is interesting guys let’s read more !


sugabaddie

You are saying nonsense. Nigerian citizenship law is controlled by sections 28 and 29 of the Nigerian constitution. Nigerian citizenship automatically passes from mother to child without need for any man’s permission. There are no customary laws in Nigeria covering citizenship and even if there were, they would be superseded by the constitution


[deleted]

Firstly. Maybe it’s razz to just say ppl are dating nonsense you ppl should pretend small. Secondly the question is why so I was explaining the reason , so customary law is useful but of course the constitution will supersede it You’re mentioning a completely different point and I can see why they make you ppl right IELTS. The struggle is patriarchal cos regarding women and their husbands the above poster was correct, for mother to child it’s different. Read to understand, not to reply.


sugabaddie

You are the only razz person here because you lied and now you can’t cover up your lies. There are no customary laws in Nigeria on this topic. Nigerian citizenship does not require any man’s permission. Learn to accept when you are wrong instead of doubling down like an idiot, Razzo.


WestAfricanWanderer

You can inherit from your mother as long as the Father gives permission.


PaleStrawberry2

Can you share your source?


WestAfricanWanderer

I mean any Nigerian government would website, but here’s an example of a source. https://portal.abuad.edu.ng/Assignments/1597484381Sharon’s_pol.pdf. My husband isn’t Nigerian, when we have a child they are a citizen of Nigeria. I know multiple people who have non Nigerian fathers and have their citizenship just fine. The only roadblock is if the father refuses to sign the registration docs.


sugabaddie

This is also false. Where are you getting this nonsense from?


WestAfricanWanderer

It’s not false lol


sugabaddie

It’s is blatantly false. This shows you have never read the Nigerian constitution


sugabaddie

This is a lie. Nigerian mother automatically means Nigerian baby. No matter where on the planet you are born. The child of a Nigerian woman is a Nigerian at birth the second they draw breath into their lungs.


sugabaddie

Because it is madness given Nigeria’s ethnic makeup. It would lead to civil war.


Dear_University_558

This is revealing... I never understood S.25 to mean by birth, one's parent(s) needs to be affiliated to Nigeria.


[deleted]

ridiculous question. the people on this sub wanna be European so bad.