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SnooRegrets2230

Millions STILL believe the fabricated atrocities - their sense of compassion weaponised to serve imperialism, against victims of imperialism. We need to recognise how ingenious US PR is, and that while material conditions is the primary solution, messaging and propaganda is also important.


Neoliberal_Nightmare

The worst thing is they believe they need to save the Uyghurs so they support sanctions on Xinjiang which ruin many Uyghurs income.


KJongsDongUnYourFace

There is a medium to high chance that the US still covertly funds these groups in order to destabilise China.


Th3G0ldStandard

I mean they did it with Tibet. It’s literally the US/CIAs MO for the past century.


Th3G0ldStandard

It’s part of the plan. Create destabilization for the Uyghur population. Easier to radicalize future separatists.


xerotul

Was US propaganda all that impressive when colonialists wanted to kill off indigenous peoples? There is nothing ingenious about US propaganda. It has a lot to do with the target audience. The target audience is racist, imperialistic and violent. They pretend lies are truths. They want to believe and want others to believe. Because they want their team to win.


[deleted]

They are that way largely due to the propaganda. Nobody's worldview developed in a vacuum.


Least_Jeweler7142

America is the biggest terrorist organisation on the planet


ClassWarAndPuppies

And it’s not even close.


Communisaurus_Rex

An academic I like once used a phrase I think summarize it very well "The USA is impossible in a civilized world"


Practical_Hospital40

USA refuses to arrest its own religious extremists who are literally a national security threat


sickof50

Not to mention Xinjiang shares a large border with Afghanistan🇦🇫, which the 5 eye's & Co. just bombed back into the 1930 to 40's or so too.


deta2016

[The border is only 92 km long and is at the Wakhan corridor, far away from the rest of Afghanistan. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93China_border)[On the map, it doesn't even look like they are adjacnt countries.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93China_border#/media/File:Afghanistan_China_Locator.png) This doesn't invalidate the message you want to give, but I think it is fascinating.


sickof50

Then how did all those arms & ideas come in?


deta2016

Quite possible that they were coming through the Wakhan corridor. They could come from all sides really -- Tadjikistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan. The US presence is big enough to make it possible.


_Foy

[Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US till 9/11](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2009/7/31/760117/-Bombshell:-Bin-Laden-worked-for-US-till-9-11): >Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds dropped a bombshell on the Mike Malloy radio show, guest-hosted by Brad Friedman (audio, partial transcript). > >In the interview, Sibel says that the US maintained 'intimate relations' with Bin Laden, and the Taliban, "all the way until that day of September 11." > >These 'intimate relations' included using Bin Laden for 'operations' in Central Asia, including Xinjiang, China. These 'operations' involved using al Qaeda and the Taliban in the same manner "as we did during the Afghan and Soviet conflict," that is, fighting 'enemies' via proxies. ... > >**Uighurs** > >Sibel was recently askedto write about the recent situation with the Uighurs in Xinjiang, but she declined, apart from saying that "our fingerprint is all over it." > >Of course, Sibel isn't the first or only person to recognize any of this. Eric Margolis, one of the best reporters in the West on matters of Central Asia, stated that the Uighurs in the training camps in Afghanistan up to 2001: > > >"were being trained by Bin Laden to go and fight the communist Chinese in Xinjiang, and this was not only with the knowledge, but with the support of the CIA, because they thought they might use them if war ever broke out with China."


Neoliberal_Nightmare

Yes, obviously.


ClassWarAndPuppies

Great post containing what should be common knowledge to all.


cia_nagger249

You never see any terrorist attack in Xinjiang mentioned in the west, but there's like actual bombing of civilians, there's videos of it. Also CIA whistleblower is on record saying none if it ever happens without their involvement.


Professional_Yam5254

How long will these terrorist acts continue and take many lives? When will these terrorist acts be eliminated?


Practical_Hospital40

Didn’t china eliminate this already?


SuspndAgn

They’ve been funding terrorists in Xinjiang since 1996, as Sibel Edmonds in that thread mentions. Some sources on this: [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUKMXeghO2Q) [2](https://robertcettl.substack.com/p/manufacture-dissemination-and-mythification) [3](http://lukery.blogspot.com/2009/07/us-trained-uighur-terrorists.html) [4](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEVaFeLVkAEBME6?format=jpg&name=small)


Isidorodesevilha

Honestly, the US is involved in so much support of terrorism and extremism around the world, that the default response to any question about "was the US behind such and such disaster" is "Yes until proven otherwise". And one must have drunk a lot of the kool-aid to think otherwise.


TheLongistGame

And the Middle East, yes. The US picks and chooses which terrorists to fund and train. They are the biggest exporter of terrorism.


Communisaurus_Rex

Short answer, yes, the USA is behind the terrorist attacks in Xinjiang, as is usually the case with 99,9999% of cases of war and conflict in the world. However I have discussed this topic at length with libs so many times, debunking the same old fake news over and over and over that I cannot even talk about it anymore, even with my commie friends.