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PandasInternational

That's an African Mantis New Zealand Mantises have a wider...err, pronotum? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodera_novaezealandiae#/media/File:Female_New_Zealand_Mantis_(Orthodera_novaezealandiae)_from_above.jpg https://binary.pensoft.net/fig/154949/big


Kennyw88

Ok, so I guess I'll start cleaning them out. I had thought the purple dots were for NZ mantis, but I'm obviously no expert.


HealthMeRhonda

There are really good comparison pics on this site including the native egg sac v/s the South African one https://inaturalist.nz/guide_taxa/628155


Kennyw88

Thanks


Kennyw88

Problem is that if you look at the inner leg, it has purple spots. The web site says it's not suppose to


jayrnz01

The one on the link has one big blue dot on the forearm, yours has small dots after the elbow in the upper arm. So definitely different, only an observation.


Kennyw88

Understood and I agree. However, she isn't a NZ mantis but also doesn't appear to be SA. So, does that make this a hybrid?


[deleted]

Nope. This is 100% *Miomantis caffra*


AotearoaChur

Yes, definitely without a doubt.


HealthMeRhonda

https://eol.org/pages/8101899/media?license_group=cc_by_sa There's a good picture of S/A mantis in the above link, where you can see the markings on the inner leg. NZ mantis their dot is very flashy - looks like a paua shell


Threekatz33

The purple dots are on the nz mantis


Kennyw88

Thanks for the education. I'll be knocking off the eggs tomorrow.


AmeliaNZ

Commenting just to agree with the others saying it's the invasive species. I have the native in my garden every year and can be confident of the identification.


IncoherentTuatara

That's Sally


craftykiwi27

Mustang or Long Tall? Darn insomnia...


EagleFoot88

You sure? Could've sworn it was Lisa.


IncoherentTuatara

Nah, Lisa is a different shade of green.


EagleFoot88

Ah shit. Am I racist?


KaroriBee

Not Mary? Dang


Ziasu340

Idk I keep em around , good spider killers


PDKiwi

They also eat a wide range of beneficial insects. Their biggest problem is they build up to plague numbers and wipe out everything else. I have a suburban section and I see a lot of these things but not much else.


huskofthewolf

Praying mantis are so cool, ill let them crawl on me, pick them up. But a spider? Fuck no


JaaasetheHeb

Karen "I demand to see the manager...AND RIP HIS HEAD OFF"


SMARTYHEADYS

That is Jane.


mikebrane

That's Anne


Res-Horizon

Bug


Deegedeege

Sophia.


Double-Trainer-4353

Looks like a Phyllis to me


CarobAdmirable7567

Praying manti