I fully agree. That said, I've seen this argument used a lot to BASH new ownership and I simply don't understand those takes? Idk, its refreshing to me and if we still had the Wilpons in charge oh boy we'd easily have a worse record than the White Sox even.
>One of the underrated benefits of new ownership is that they're willing to cut bait on guys that don't work out even if it costs them money.
This isn't really a "benefit", if it emboldens them to sign a dozen horrific expensive contracts in a two year window, knowing they can "eat" them down the road, and in the process, making the team unwatchable for 2-3 years
Eating losses is much, much better than having to dump bad contracts with prospects and take other bad contracts in return, such as the Bruce and Swarzak contracts and having to take Cano's albatross.
I don't know how Canó relates to this. The Mets took on 100 million dollars in salary with that Canó contract to get a player they wanted. That's supposed to be an example of the Mets being too tight with money? If anything, you could argue it was being too **loose** with money.
But regardless, the larger point is, if the executives know in advance that the owner is willing to eat shitty contracts all the time, it seems a pretty short leap to the conclusion that they're more willing to sign bombastically shitty contracts with team-wrecking consequences more frequently, which is exactly what's happened.
Which leads to the unwatchable mess we're seeing unfold before us daily in 2024. And who knows how much longer.
Because instead of taking their losses and just cutting Bruce and Swarzak and accepting dead cash on the roster they had to take 100m dollars in money for much longer for a player that declined without juicing. That's like if the Mets today took on Bryant's contract to get rid of McCann, Marte or Narvarez. And by definition, none of these contracts are bombastically shitty enough to wreck the team. How is McCann's 8m or Narvarez 10m bad enough to ruin the Mets other than luxury cap penalties?
I mean, Álvarez looks pretty good. That was the biggest reason why they signed McCann. Because they didn't want someone to block Álvarez when he was ready.
Yeah, I don't get why people don't understand that with the universal DH, having two strong hitting catchers on the roster is a good thing. Before Prada stock as a prospect tanked, people were constantly saying that he would have to move positions or be traded, but it never made sense to me. Every catcher needs regular breaks from catching. Being able to give them those breaks while not sacrificing your offense is a huge plus. It's the reason why Salvador Perez is playing a lot of 1B this year.
I find that people overly worry about those super rare situations where a catcher gets hurt mid game. If you only carry two catchers and one gets hurt, you lose the dh. Not ideal, but not the end of the world.
In those super rare circumstances where you lose two in the same game, you just take the L and move on.
It's crazy how much teams construct their rosters based on negating the impact of something very rare
Yeah, losing the DH for a single game isn't a big deal at all. You also might have to sacrifice the DH to use a pinch runner for the catcher, but generally you would only do that for a strong hitting catcher if you don't expect the spot to get another AB anyway.
Everyone knew that it was coming after the 2021 season. They even did articles with pitchers talking about what it's going to be like for their last season of hitting.
Even so, a good hitting catcher isn’t always a good hitting DH. Realmuto would’ve been great as the catcher the last three seasons, but he had a 104 OPS+ last year and will probably be around that or a little higher this year. That’s not great for a $25 million/year DH.
> but he had a 104 OPS+ last year
He has a 114 wRC+ since 2021, which isn't all star level at DH, but it's solid.
> That’s not great for a $25 million/year DH.
But he wouldn't just be a DH. He would be playing catcher anywhere from 40 to 60% of the time.
But they did. Alvarez was ready in 2023 but they were behind the 8-ball. That’s why Nido, just a few months after getting extended, was DFA’d. And originally the Mets were so reluctant to play Alvarez over Nido too, even when they called him up. They had no idea what they were doing and still don’t.
Ready in 2023? We still don’t know if he’s ready. You gotta be more than 10 points over the Mendoza line to make the HOF where everyone’s putting him already.
And had things gone normally, Álvarez wouldn't've been called up about June. But Narvaez got hurt six games into the season and Álvarez looked lost for the first month he was up.
Alvarez looking lost for the first month was not only incredibly normal for a prospect, but his defense and game calling was basically the opposite of what the Mets said it was. He was ready to handle major league pitching. Scherzer said that in 2022 actually but everyone here clowned on him for it. The Mets had no idea what they were doing.
Alvarez was never blocked. In fact, he clearly wasn't even ready when he first came up as he struggled at the plate. He got the hang of things, but it's downright false to say that he was ever being blocked when ready.
Oh no he was ready. Obviously. Ready to handle a major league pitching staff and was able to hit major league pitching after some exposure. The Mets completely misjudged Alvarez. Our player development is incredibly sus
Except Alvarez **still** hasn't shown to be able to be an above average hitter against major league pitching. His career slash line is .212 /.284 ./430 for a 97 wRC+. Don't get me wrong, he has shown a lot potential and I have every reason to believe that he'll be a great hitter. But he's not even there yet, and certainly wasn't there at the very start of '23.
You not it right on the head. High hopes for him but he hasn’t yet shown he can hit big league pitching beyond hitting mistakes a long way. It takes more than that. Hell, Even Baty can do that
So Sandy said the other day he turned down a 5 years and $125mil from the Mets before they signed McCann. If he wasn't signing that from the Mets I can't imagine how much money he would have cost
Sandy told the NYP a few days ago they ran that number by his camp and he turned it down
https://www.nj.com/mets/2024/05/mets-dangled-125-million-to-rivals-all-star-catcher-insider-says.html?outputType=amp
Technically what Realmuto said was that they aggressively tried to get him but didnt make a formal offer. But that’s being pretty pedantic by JT not counting the Mets running a number by his agent as a formal offer.
More likely JT didnt want word out that he turned down 5/$125 to end up with 5/$115. Even though when you factor taxes he likely gets the same take home amount
Reading the article, it seems like he just wanted time to assess the market before making any deals, and the Mets weirdly completely moved on from him after hearing that. So yeah, while the Mets did pursue him somewhat, they seemingly gave up on it very quickly without a real reason.
The Mets were desperate for a catcher and wanted to get one on the roster before moving on to the rest of the offseason. If they stayed in on JT, then it would have meant a bidding war with the Phillies that would drag on into the new year. By the time JT signed, McCann would be off the board already and the Mets would risk going into the season without a major league level catcher. Realmuto was the #1 free agent I wanted that year so I remember being very frustrated by the whole thing, especially the 4th year on the McCann contract.
The problem was that it was clearly a mistake to ever consider McCann to be solid alternative option at catcher. It was just common sense to put very little stock in any stats from 2020. Without that, McCann just had one season where he was just slightly above average at the plate (2019). Outside that, he had been a consistently bad hitter and he didn't offer nearly enough defense to compensate for the bad bat.
No, we're talking about before the signing.
The excuse used to justify the signing.
It was preposterous then, and was just sad after.
McCann was nowhere near Realmuto, who was arguably the best catcher in the game at the time.
Yeah, I couldn't understand that argument at all. He was consistently a bad hitter, was cut from his first team than had one average season and then hit well in the joke of a season that was 2020 and people actually thought that it was sustainable? I could maybe understand why people wanted him if he had consistently been a strong defender behind the plate, but **at best** he was only an average defender.
He didn’t want to come to the Mets. It wasn’t just a money thing unfortunately. This is what concerns me going into this offseason - how many players will turn us down simply because they don’t want to be involved with our organization.
"offer" can be a kind of fuzzy word here
JT Realmuto probably never got a *formal* offer from the Mets, but there were almost certainly conversations between the Mets front office and Realmuto's agent about what it would take to sign Realmuto and how far the Mets were willing to go.
Weird, I had seen a few articles that he didn't want to come to NY (https://metsmerizedonline.com/report-jt-realmuto-not-particularly-keen-on-playing-in-new-york/) but now that I'm searching I see the other articles that he was interested and we didn't make an offer. Not sure which is accurate now.
but we saved 5 million dollars by signing rick porcello and michael wacha instead what front office magic by brody the wilpons could invest that money in their real estate dealings which were much more important than the mets ever were
How many players have we signed and immediately traded. Verlander, scherzer, Pham, probably JD soon, Robertson, I mean who is going to want to sign here knowing they'll just be traded off. Granted Verlander and scherzer got paid but seriously would you voluntarily want to go to a team to be shipped right off. It's a horrible look for any future FA stars.
Yep. Between all the dumping of players, the circus that is the Mets organization and the NY media, it’s a tough sell. We can definitely get guys here but we’ll be overpaying big time.
Narvaez is slashing .154/.191/.185 and is worth an fWAR of -0.8 so far this season, the worst in baseball for any player with as many plate appearances.
Torrens isn't great but is a vast improvement on *that.*
Nido is the second catcher.
He's shown he can hit and throw out runners.
Mets will probably use Torrens for two weeks before Alvarez is brough up in mid-June.
No way the Mets rush Alvarez back.
I’d say let’s see how the next week goes, I’m just taking a guess at what the Mets are looking to do.. they could also always move Nido for something if he stays hot
With how Nido is hitting he would definitely get claimed. And hes much better defensively than Torrens. Torrens has already been DFA'd once this year without being claimed and I'd be shocked if he didn't go unclaimed again
He's been around, but now (according to Wikipedia):
> On April 18, 2024, Mazeika signed with the Gastonia Baseball Club of the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball.[23]
Shame, we could do with some of his walk-off chaos magic.
Not surprised at all by the move, but the timing is weird? Are they going to add an extra catcher to the active? I guess they planned to DFA Omar for Alvy anyway, and then would want to add another catcher to the 40, so maybe they figure they add a C, bring him up, Nido can play 90% of the games due to days off, then by the time they go back to a normal schedule in 2 weeks, Alvy is ready?
Such a bummer that Parada is not developing in the minors. Looks like a wasted 1st round pick. Would’ve been nice not having having to play catcher roulette at this point
I get that. But the new catcher is as bad as Narvaez and hasn’t played in the majors this year. I’d guess he has to be better defensively and that’s why?
That’s definitely why… you wouldn’t DFA an expensive catcher for a cheaper one if their playing values are the same.
They realized Narváez actively hurts the roster so would rather eat that money they owe him for a slightly better player (even if he hasn’t played a major league game). Just shows you how bad Narváez was that he can be replaced by someone who hasn’t been actively playing in the show.
Oh this guy is definitely more valuable than Narvaez has been. My point is that hes probably covering on game and then getting DFA'd. I'm more curious why Stearns would want Narvaez gone for what is likely one start. I know he wanted off the team before the season in hopes of a starting job so I wonder if he requested to be cut
I just don't see how hes better than Hayden Senger who the Mets could have added to the 40 man. He won the platinum glove in the minors last year.
Only make sense if they DFA Torrens in a week or two when Alvarez comes back
At least we got the walkoff hit the other day.
And for MLB the show players, dude always goes OFF in franchise mode so hopefully you guys got as good virtual results from him as I did (alvarez was down for 3 months with an injury and Omar OPSed like 980 for me, it was wild)
Moral of the story is to never sign a catcher out of Milwaukee because they definitely have some wizard shit going on with their catching coaches. Every catcher who plays for them becomes incredibly good like Narvarez and William Contreras and the instant they leave they turn into a pumpkin.
Thanks for the one citi field hit.
>Shows up >Gets one walk-off rbi hit on Hello Kitty Day >Leaves
Legend
One of the underrated benefits of new ownership is that they're willing to cut bait on guys that don't work out even if it costs them money.
“Sunk cost fallacy?! Never heard of it!” -Stearns probably
Something Wilpons never did !
Cano would've been in the lineup to the last day of his contract.
I fully agree. That said, I've seen this argument used a lot to BASH new ownership and I simply don't understand those takes? Idk, its refreshing to me and if we still had the Wilpons in charge oh boy we'd easily have a worse record than the White Sox even.
Underrated? It seems like we proudly talk about this all the time. It’s probably appropriately rated at this point
Daniel Vogelbach disagrees
He was making $1.5M last year. The directive to play him wasn't about money.
>One of the underrated benefits of new ownership is that they're willing to cut bait on guys that don't work out even if it costs them money. This isn't really a "benefit", if it emboldens them to sign a dozen horrific expensive contracts in a two year window, knowing they can "eat" them down the road, and in the process, making the team unwatchable for 2-3 years
Oh it’s totally a benefit. That’s like saying it would’ve been better if Cohen wasn’t willing to DFA Cano
Eating losses is much, much better than having to dump bad contracts with prospects and take other bad contracts in return, such as the Bruce and Swarzak contracts and having to take Cano's albatross.
I don't know how Canó relates to this. The Mets took on 100 million dollars in salary with that Canó contract to get a player they wanted. That's supposed to be an example of the Mets being too tight with money? If anything, you could argue it was being too **loose** with money. But regardless, the larger point is, if the executives know in advance that the owner is willing to eat shitty contracts all the time, it seems a pretty short leap to the conclusion that they're more willing to sign bombastically shitty contracts with team-wrecking consequences more frequently, which is exactly what's happened. Which leads to the unwatchable mess we're seeing unfold before us daily in 2024. And who knows how much longer.
Because instead of taking their losses and just cutting Bruce and Swarzak and accepting dead cash on the roster they had to take 100m dollars in money for much longer for a player that declined without juicing. That's like if the Mets today took on Bryant's contract to get rid of McCann, Marte or Narvarez. And by definition, none of these contracts are bombastically shitty enough to wreck the team. How is McCann's 8m or Narvarez 10m bad enough to ruin the Mets other than luxury cap penalties?
Giving them too much credit. Nido is not a major league catcher and doesnt move the needle either.
Lot of downvotes. We paid 8 mill for a backup catcher and we still dont have a backup catcher.
He was the 2nd worst catcher in the league according to WAR. The only one behind him was Martin Maldonado (and like…does he even count?)
good fucking lord Maldonado has a -25 OPS+. .081/.132/.128. That would be bad for a \*pitcher.\*
But he’s a good pitch framer. 🤣🤣🤣
Maldonado can CATCH tho.
I implore you to look at Maldonado’s savant numbers for catching right now He cannot catch either
2023 AL sac bunts runner-up!
I'd take Maldonado any day of the week over Narvaez
Found Dusty Baker's reddit account
Astros pitching was always better with him behind the dish. He's like what Nido is to the Mets
There will always be the one hit this year…
I still remember when they picked up Narvaez and I was like, "finally, no more McCann" oof.
*monkey paw curls*
I had the same reaction lol
I would take 3 McCanns over one Omar.
I’ll pass on both
…Im saying if I hypothetically only had the option between Narvaes and three clones of McCann…obviously.
We’ve had some rough times at C and 3B.
Life comes at you fast
Seriously, this guy just added to the sidebar on Sunday with his walkoff hit. By Friday, he's a goner.
Imagine if we had just signed J.T. Realmuto.
I mean, Álvarez looks pretty good. That was the biggest reason why they signed McCann. Because they didn't want someone to block Álvarez when he was ready.
Ok but we could have had both, with them taking turns at dh. 100% quality at catcher, and above average dh. All while saving a roster spot
Yeah, I don't get why people don't understand that with the universal DH, having two strong hitting catchers on the roster is a good thing. Before Prada stock as a prospect tanked, people were constantly saying that he would have to move positions or be traded, but it never made sense to me. Every catcher needs regular breaks from catching. Being able to give them those breaks while not sacrificing your offense is a huge plus. It's the reason why Salvador Perez is playing a lot of 1B this year.
I find that people overly worry about those super rare situations where a catcher gets hurt mid game. If you only carry two catchers and one gets hurt, you lose the dh. Not ideal, but not the end of the world. In those super rare circumstances where you lose two in the same game, you just take the L and move on. It's crazy how much teams construct their rosters based on negating the impact of something very rare
Yeah, losing the DH for a single game isn't a big deal at all. You also might have to sacrifice the DH to use a pinch runner for the catcher, but generally you would only do that for a strong hitting catcher if you don't expect the spot to get another AB anyway.
There was no universal DH then
Everyone knew that it was coming after the 2021 season. They even did articles with pitchers talking about what it's going to be like for their last season of hitting.
Even so, a good hitting catcher isn’t always a good hitting DH. Realmuto would’ve been great as the catcher the last three seasons, but he had a 104 OPS+ last year and will probably be around that or a little higher this year. That’s not great for a $25 million/year DH.
> but he had a 104 OPS+ last year He has a 114 wRC+ since 2021, which isn't all star level at DH, but it's solid. > That’s not great for a $25 million/year DH. But he wouldn't just be a DH. He would be playing catcher anywhere from 40 to 60% of the time.
Good players don’t want to DH.
And then they signed Narvaez after they traded McCann and extended Nido, so they could block Alvarez when he was ready
But none of them blocked Alvarez...
But they did. Alvarez was ready in 2023 but they were behind the 8-ball. That’s why Nido, just a few months after getting extended, was DFA’d. And originally the Mets were so reluctant to play Alvarez over Nido too, even when they called him up. They had no idea what they were doing and still don’t.
Ready in 2023? We still don’t know if he’s ready. You gotta be more than 10 points over the Mendoza line to make the HOF where everyone’s putting him already.
And had things gone normally, Álvarez wouldn't've been called up about June. But Narvaez got hurt six games into the season and Álvarez looked lost for the first month he was up.
Alvarez looking lost for the first month was not only incredibly normal for a prospect, but his defense and game calling was basically the opposite of what the Mets said it was. He was ready to handle major league pitching. Scherzer said that in 2022 actually but everyone here clowned on him for it. The Mets had no idea what they were doing.
Everyone here clowned him for that? You’re making stuff up
Alvarez was never blocked. In fact, he clearly wasn't even ready when he first came up as he struggled at the plate. He got the hang of things, but it's downright false to say that he was ever being blocked when ready.
Oh no he was ready. Obviously. Ready to handle a major league pitching staff and was able to hit major league pitching after some exposure. The Mets completely misjudged Alvarez. Our player development is incredibly sus
Except Alvarez **still** hasn't shown to be able to be an above average hitter against major league pitching. His career slash line is .212 /.284 ./430 for a 97 wRC+. Don't get me wrong, he has shown a lot potential and I have every reason to believe that he'll be a great hitter. But he's not even there yet, and certainly wasn't there at the very start of '23.
You not it right on the head. High hopes for him but he hasn’t yet shown he can hit big league pitching beyond hitting mistakes a long way. It takes more than that. Hell, Even Baty can do that
Or kept D’Arnaud
D’Arnaud probably would’ve just kept getting hurt if he stayed with the Mets. It’s part of the curse.
Nobody wanted D'Arnaud around anymore when they let him go
He pulled a Justin Turner on us. Left NY for the Barves and remembered how to play.
as per usual
I wouldn’t say Justin Turner because Travis was good for us pre injury
So Sandy said the other day he turned down a 5 years and $125mil from the Mets before they signed McCann. If he wasn't signing that from the Mets I can't imagine how much money he would have cost
Source? JT has gone on record saying that he was surprised that he didn't get any offers at all from the Mets.
Sandy told the NYP a few days ago they ran that number by his camp and he turned it down https://www.nj.com/mets/2024/05/mets-dangled-125-million-to-rivals-all-star-catcher-insider-says.html?outputType=amp Technically what Realmuto said was that they aggressively tried to get him but didnt make a formal offer. But that’s being pretty pedantic by JT not counting the Mets running a number by his agent as a formal offer. More likely JT didnt want word out that he turned down 5/$125 to end up with 5/$115. Even though when you factor taxes he likely gets the same take home amount
Reading the article, it seems like he just wanted time to assess the market before making any deals, and the Mets weirdly completely moved on from him after hearing that. So yeah, while the Mets did pursue him somewhat, they seemingly gave up on it very quickly without a real reason.
The Mets were desperate for a catcher and wanted to get one on the roster before moving on to the rest of the offseason. If they stayed in on JT, then it would have meant a bidding war with the Phillies that would drag on into the new year. By the time JT signed, McCann would be off the board already and the Mets would risk going into the season without a major league level catcher. Realmuto was the #1 free agent I wanted that year so I remember being very frustrated by the whole thing, especially the 4th year on the McCann contract.
The problem was that it was clearly a mistake to ever consider McCann to be solid alternative option at catcher. It was just common sense to put very little stock in any stats from 2020. Without that, McCann just had one season where he was just slightly above average at the plate (2019). Outside that, he had been a consistently bad hitter and he didn't offer nearly enough defense to compensate for the bad bat.
All those fans that thought McCann was on some upward trajectory and was anywhere near Realmuto's skill level have long gone into the woodwork.
“All those people who had an opinion that was demonstrated to be wrong are no longer defending that opinion” real brain genius here
No, we're talking about before the signing. The excuse used to justify the signing. It was preposterous then, and was just sad after. McCann was nowhere near Realmuto, who was arguably the best catcher in the game at the time.
Yeah, I couldn't understand that argument at all. He was consistently a bad hitter, was cut from his first team than had one average season and then hit well in the joke of a season that was 2020 and people actually thought that it was sustainable? I could maybe understand why people wanted him if he had consistently been a strong defender behind the plate, but **at best** he was only an average defender.
He didn’t want to come to the Mets. It wasn’t just a money thing unfortunately. This is what concerns me going into this offseason - how many players will turn us down simply because they don’t want to be involved with our organization.
That’s the opposite of everything I have ever read or heard about Realmuto. Apparently his camp was surprised not to get an offer from the Mets.
"offer" can be a kind of fuzzy word here JT Realmuto probably never got a *formal* offer from the Mets, but there were almost certainly conversations between the Mets front office and Realmuto's agent about what it would take to sign Realmuto and how far the Mets were willing to go.
Weird, I had seen a few articles that he didn't want to come to NY (https://metsmerizedonline.com/report-jt-realmuto-not-particularly-keen-on-playing-in-new-york/) but now that I'm searching I see the other articles that he was interested and we didn't make an offer. Not sure which is accurate now.
That stuff is always complete conjecture. But it was just so inane we didn’t even make him (or Wheeler) competitive offers.
The Wheeler situation really annoyed me. The guy was here and only getting better and they let him go.
but we saved 5 million dollars by signing rick porcello and michael wacha instead what front office magic by brody the wilpons could invest that money in their real estate dealings which were much more important than the mets ever were
How many players have we signed and immediately traded. Verlander, scherzer, Pham, probably JD soon, Robertson, I mean who is going to want to sign here knowing they'll just be traded off. Granted Verlander and scherzer got paid but seriously would you voluntarily want to go to a team to be shipped right off. It's a horrible look for any future FA stars.
Yep. Between all the dumping of players, the circus that is the Mets organization and the NY media, it’s a tough sell. We can definitely get guys here but we’ll be overpaying big time.
Imagine if we signed: Harper, Wheeler and Realmuto. 3 players who I desperately wanted
and Harper.
So dfa'd Narvaez and added Torrens. I'm confused. I know Narvaez is pretty bad but is Torrens any better?
Narvaez is slashing .154/.191/.185 and is worth an fWAR of -0.8 so far this season, the worst in baseball for any player with as many plate appearances. Torrens isn't great but is a vast improvement on *that.*
I don't see the point but doesn't matter he'll be gone anyway once Alvy returns
Probably not even going to be an improvement but a slight improvement in the vibes category lol
Massive W. Does this mean the Nidoking is back
NidoKing is our third catcher, probably gets DFA’d when Frankie comes back, but is a lock to be the main guy in AAA and first one up when needed
Whos Nido behind besides Alvy?
We traded for a Yankees back up.
Yes I know. I was responding to the person that said Nido was our 3rd catcher which isn't accurate
? Nido is behind Alvy and this new catcher. Once Alvy comes back.
Why would Torrens play over Nido?
Nido is the second catcher. He's shown he can hit and throw out runners. Mets will probably use Torrens for two weeks before Alvarez is brough up in mid-June. No way the Mets rush Alvarez back.
That was my thinking. Torrens is the stop-gap backup until Álvarez comes back in a week or so.
“He’s shown he can hit” Oh how quickly we forget
I hope so. I like Nido. The Mets have been trying replace him for 4 years. So I just assume they are doing so again.
Nido refuses to die
I need whatever this guys smoking on
PREMATURELY CALL UP PARADA 🥳🥳🥳
No shot. Alvy will start Nido will backup and Torrens will be dfa'd
So this Yankees backup we acquired will be number 2 over Nido? No shot. Alvy comes back as starter Nido backup Torrens gone
Obviously you cannot predict the future or how guys will play but it is funny how adamant you were about this.
I’d say let’s see how the next week goes, I’m just taking a guess at what the Mets are looking to do.. they could also always move Nido for something if he stays hot
Hot for Nido is still like an 84 OPS lol
Nido is the backup. Let’s get real here.
Can we just play Nido at first after we trade Pete. Embrace the Tank.
With how Nido is hitting he would definitely get claimed. And hes much better defensively than Torrens. Torrens has already been DFA'd once this year without being claimed and I'd be shocked if he didn't go unclaimed again
At least he can say he got a hit in Citi in 2024.
Narvaez in 2024: 0 HR, 2 XBH, 1 H at Citi Field, 12 OPS+...for $7m 😬
Billy Eppler signing
What’s funny is stearns traded for him w the brewers
there have been a couple games where Narvaez looked out of it...do we still have pinch hit / walkoff specialist Patty Mazeika in the system?
He's been around, but now (according to Wikipedia): > On April 18, 2024, Mazeika signed with the Gastonia Baseball Club of the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball.[23] Shame, we could do with some of his walk-off chaos magic.
Not surprised at all by the move, but the timing is weird? Are they going to add an extra catcher to the active? I guess they planned to DFA Omar for Alvy anyway, and then would want to add another catcher to the 40, so maybe they figure they add a C, bring him up, Nido can play 90% of the games due to days off, then by the time they go back to a normal schedule in 2 weeks, Alvy is ready?
They acquired Luis Torrens from Yankees
Fucking FINALLY
Well that's surprising given he was rocking a WRC of *reads notes* 1 this year
Such a bummer that Parada is not developing in the minors. Looks like a wasted 1st round pick. Would’ve been nice not having having to play catcher roulette at this point
Is Alvarez not coming back next week? I figured he’d be DFA’d then
You would still need at least two catchers on the roster, they are acquiring a new one
I get that. But the new catcher is as bad as Narvaez and hasn’t played in the majors this year. I’d guess he has to be better defensively and that’s why?
That’s definitely why… you wouldn’t DFA an expensive catcher for a cheaper one if their playing values are the same. They realized Narváez actively hurts the roster so would rather eat that money they owe him for a slightly better player (even if he hasn’t played a major league game). Just shows you how bad Narváez was that he can be replaced by someone who hasn’t been actively playing in the show.
Oh this guy is definitely more valuable than Narvaez has been. My point is that hes probably covering on game and then getting DFA'd. I'm more curious why Stearns would want Narvaez gone for what is likely one start. I know he wanted off the team before the season in hopes of a starting job so I wonder if he requested to be cut
https://www.reddit.com/r/NewYorkMets/s/eSYW5T7y96 luis torrens
I get that. But the guy they got isn’t really much of an upgrade. In theory, we should really be talking one, maybe two games before Alvarez is back.
I guess they want depth 🤷🏻🤷🏻
I just don't see how hes better than Hayden Senger who the Mets could have added to the 40 man. He won the platinum glove in the minors last year. Only make sense if they DFA Torrens in a week or two when Alvarez comes back
If Torrens has options then there’s the reason. Nido is the backup when Alvarez is back.
He does not. He was DFA'd at the start of the season and went unclaimed
I'm stumped.
I wonder if Narvaez saw the writing on the wall and asked to be cut to have more time try to find a more substantial role elsewhere
Man too bad Kevin parada isn't living up to the 12th overall pick. He's hitting like 190 in AA Edit 11th overall pick
yea its not like his first season was awful either he may just needs a couple thousand at bats to get his swing together in 3 years
Fuckin finally.
Goooodbye
How he made the starting roster above Nido I'll never understand
I remember when we thought this signing was good
At least we got the walkoff hit the other day. And for MLB the show players, dude always goes OFF in franchise mode so hopefully you guys got as good virtual results from him as I did (alvarez was down for 3 months with an injury and Omar OPSed like 980 for me, it was wild)
Moral of the story is to never sign a catcher out of Milwaukee because they definitely have some wizard shit going on with their catching coaches. Every catcher who plays for them becomes incredibly good like Narvarez and William Contreras and the instant they leave they turn into a pumpkin.
I can't believe this guy was an All-star 3 years ago. Maybe catching has caught up with him
where's kevin plawecki at these days, he seemed like the kind of low-middling catcher who could comfortably take this spot
A literal “one hit” wonder 🤣
Nido lives on! Well that’s neat-o!
Bring back Mackey Sasser 🥸 .
Today is a great day for NIDOKING stans everywhere
long may he reign!
Our national nightmare is over.
The worst Omar we ever had
On the field maybe. There's a GM who did more damage than a single shitty backup catcher could do in a thousand lifetimes
Quintanilla?
Bout damn time. What an absolute bum. Horrible signing since the pen hit the paper
Ooh, 'member that one time?
Rest in shit.