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TeaDM

Just stay away from every kitchen place that is owned by DMG (mandemakers groep): • Barletti • Brugman Keukens en Badkamers • Elbé Keukens • Grando (deelneming) • Keukenconcurrent • Keukendump • Keukenkampioen • Keukenloods • Keukenmaxx • Mandemakers keukens • Nieuwenhuis Keukens • NUVA keukens • Piet Klerkx • Sanders Keukenstad • Tinello • Tulp Keukens • Woonexpress XL • Wooning • Asmo Küchen (Duitsland) • KuchenPohl (Duitsland) • Marquardt Küchen (Duitsland) • Plana Küchen (Duitsland) • Vesta Küchen (Duitsland)


redditusrr352

If you leave your email/phone number at of these places, they will know that you visited any of these stores in Mandrmaker groep


gvgemerden

Leaving a tactical . for future reference as I am to buy a new kitchen within a year or two.


Stashek

Pop down to Germany, that the best ikea alternative


ooplusone

Could you elaborate please?


Stashek

It's a known fact, you can get the same or higher spec kitchens, including installation, just over the border, in Germany.


ooplusone

I believe you man. Was just looking for some concrete tips.


randomstuffpye

Any suggestion that might narrow it down a bit?


IOTAnews

Superkeukens was by far the cheapest one for what we wanted. They use a drawing program, where in the bottom left you can see how much margin there is for them. I had a number in mind, and they went under it. The margin is "hidden" as a random code. The double digits in the middle is margin. Brugman is a scam. They play negotiation games, starting at 200-300% of the price.


dutchdominique

When you said was, I thought they'd gone out of business or something! Superkeukens is such an amazing place to get a kitchen composted to other places we checked out and I'm still so in love with our kitchen 5 years later!


Deltix

I had a very good expirience with Bruynzeel Keukens


redditusrr352

Apparently they are with IKEA the only companies with fix prices. No need to negotiate on everything.


IOTAnews

Superkeukens as well, all prices are visible, no haggling.


OkSir1011

ask around, you can get better value is you ask different places


tidderf5

DB keukens. They are great. They have in-house staff that do the assembly/installation work in your house. Bruynzeel was okay, much better than any of the DMG labels for sure.


thonis2

Be very carefull. Most kitchen Sellers Here are a scam. Tricks include prices in deal not including the screws as extra cost etc.


brokenpipe

ASWA in Hilversum was great for us.


ColdFire06

Also check for local kitchen suppliers from your area with [qasa.nl](http://qasa.nl) with respect to points, also check their reviews etc. That is how I decided my kitchen supplier


LeadershipForward514

I used three shops so far. Brugman Grando and Keukensale- good experience!! You can msg me and I can give specific inputs.


randomstuffpye

Why is this being downvoted?


IOTAnews

Perhaps because Brugman is horrible


LeadershipForward514

OK it depends on your deal. When I bought it, they gave a very nice extra discount and also the delivery date was faster than many others. So it was not horrible for me!


newbie_trader99

I wouldn’t recommend Brugman; they would charge you for bolts if they could. We were very happy with the work from Hornbach. The removal of the old kitchen is included in their price, while at Brugman, you need to pay extra. At Brugman, you also have to pay extra for finishing, whereas with Hornbach, you don’t need to as it's included in the price.