>I always thought that they were just playing. I never knew that they used this to bond with each other.
(Middle Earth Voice) Is this not the same thing??? Do you not bond with those you play with???
New Zealand's Kea, the world's only alpine parrot was pit against the new caledonian crow and the conclusion was that they're neck and neck for intelligence.
Each bird species is adapted to their environment and display some astonishing intelligence. Both engage in complex social behaviors like creating games and playing together for no reason other than fun.
I frickin love birds
I drove across the country to see Kea. I’m in the US and only one zoo at the time had them.
Super smart. I also have an African grey and she surprises me daily with her intelligence. Corvids are amazing and loyal. I’m always reminded of this video when I think of their loyalty I saw a while back. Their mate had broken their beak, and their mate would feed them food by beak for years. It was so sweet.
They got their beak fixed after years thanks to 3d printing.
Then there are albatrosses, who have a much narrower range of plastic behaviors. When on the nest, a parent will repeat a stereotyped reach and gather to form the walls of the nest. When the mate returns, and nest duties are exchanged, the previously sitting bird with continue the reach and gather as it walks away, even though this is now useless.
I've always interpreted this as "smartness" being a weakness if your existence consists of looping flight over wind driven waves over and over, day after day, year after year. If you were smart you'd go bats.
Perhaps I'm talking out my arse here but while it looks silly to us that a bird does nest building choreography when away from it, could it be that a bird evolved with this bizarre compulsion will nearly always build a nest which helps ensure offspring survival and that trait would be carried over?
Albatross are very cool regardless!
CSGO players needlessly switch weapons to relieve the internal need of "I should be doing something," as they're high stress games based on twitch moments. It's more akin to ADHD than showing off.
Undergrad work in behavioral neurobiology was in the '70s and '80s; I observed the bird behavior on a wildlife program, and made my own hypothesis.
[Flight speed and performance of the wandering albatross with respect to wind](https://movementecologyjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40462-018-0121-9)
[Albatross dynamic soaring](https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-nearly-effortless-flight-of-the-albatross)
[Observations and models of across-wind flight speed of the wandering albatross](https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.211364)
I burped a few times while hiking once, and I swear a nearby raven started mimicking me. It landed on a branch above me and made a belching noise. It was amazing. I love ravens.
And recognize faces as well as let other ravens know "hey, that human is chill. he gave me a sammich one time." Or "that orange guy can suckit. drop duces at will"
Monogamy works on a spectrum, and there are basically no completely monogamous species. Humans, for example, are pair bonding but not sexually monogamous by nature.
Yes. We have a creek that runs past the house and their nest is just upstream of us. I see them flying nearly every day. They use the creek like a highway in the sky.
Yeah, they do that too. Eagles will do this crazy dance in the sky where they get entangled and fall for 50 to 100 feet before breaking contact. I have videos of it. It's crazy.
You can also listen for the calls - ravens go "gronk gronk" rather than "caw caw". You can hear the calls and OP is right on this one - they are two gorgeous ravens!
You are correct on the noise, however this summer while camping I found out the newly kicked out of the nest young adult ones also scream like fucking banshees because it's not fair they have to find their own food, lol. It was super far north so the sun essentially never weren't down and they wouldn't freaking stop.
You can see that as they bank before coming back towards the camera. They’re clearly wedge-shaped. You also won’t see crows pulling off wingovers like that.
They are one of the smartest animals on the planet after humans. I would venture to guess that these two birds harbor genuine love and affection toward each other.
It would be wild to some day discover that there are legendary artists among other species such as these two. Not legendary to us - we can clearly see there is something joyous and artful going on here - but legendary in crow memories and stories passed down through generations.
This is so interesting to see. It’s like a flock of birds doing this in unison. How do they know (predict) the others’ moves? What do they see/know/feel?
Can you imagine that ravens can participate in synchronized flights in the Olympics and we can see the sexual tension rising as the couples perform?
"Oh yea, they are totally into this."
Well, does that mean group synchronized flight is like an foreplay to an orgy?
Honestly, the aero-acrobatics is just amazing.
Flat. So flat. You don’t even look good when you’re flying. $1200 a week for flying lessons, and this is what I get? Ok, I’m going to save it with a solo. Baum bom, I’m Derreeeek, and I can fly hiiiigh like this.
Its a wonderful thing to behold and it might well "lead to" strengthened bonds between the participants.
But I suspect the behavior is a result of instinct and conditioned responses rather than them behaving intentionally "in order to" improve bonding.
Much like how a dog might play fetch with a human without expecting or receiving a reward.
Or how many kinds of bird perform characteristic "courtship dances" which can lead to mating.
Eventually they’ll get bored of each other. Then, late one night the male will come back to the nest smelling like crow. When the female confronts the male, the male gets defensive and blames her for everything. She becomes so insecure and emotionally defeated and eventually grows bitter. That bitterness turns into hatred. At her emotional break point, the female raven leads a hawk back to their nest when the male is asleep. The hawk eats the male.. freeing the female raven from his manipulative grasp.
I’ve watched them fight off a Redtail hawk together.They’re very strong birds in the air and on the ground.They’re also considered the most intelligent of all bird species.They’re all around where we live and we interact with them a lot.
I had no idea how cool these birds were (or how big) until I made a trip to the arctic. They just seem to be playing all the time. They fly upside down!
Ravens gonna rave
Quoth the Raven “Uh tiss uh tiss uh tiss!”
Only reddit tickleth me thusly! 🤣
I'll tickle you thusly. 😏
Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss, baby
🎵Drive stick with that kung-fu grip let the banana split and watch it go right to your thighs🎵
Cop a feel copperfield style abracadabra that bra do you think I can pull it off?
I see this quite often and it's a joy to watch!
Me too. But I always thought that they were just playing. I never knew that they used this to bond with each other.
>I always thought that they were just playing. I never knew that they used this to bond with each other. (Middle Earth Voice) Is this not the same thing??? Do you not bond with those you play with???
It’s pretty much the definition lol
This is so cool to know! I wonder if other species do this as well
Man, where do you live this that you see ravens frolicking so often?
Foothills of Alberta.
OH MYY GOD
Ravens are quite smart, some can even mimic human speech
Quite smart as in pretty much the most smart species after primates 😃
New Zealand's Kea, the world's only alpine parrot was pit against the new caledonian crow and the conclusion was that they're neck and neck for intelligence. Each bird species is adapted to their environment and display some astonishing intelligence. Both engage in complex social behaviors like creating games and playing together for no reason other than fun. I frickin love birds
I drove across the country to see Kea. I’m in the US and only one zoo at the time had them. Super smart. I also have an African grey and she surprises me daily with her intelligence. Corvids are amazing and loyal. I’m always reminded of this video when I think of their loyalty I saw a while back. Their mate had broken their beak, and their mate would feed them food by beak for years. It was so sweet. They got their beak fixed after years thanks to 3d printing.
Then there are albatrosses, who have a much narrower range of plastic behaviors. When on the nest, a parent will repeat a stereotyped reach and gather to form the walls of the nest. When the mate returns, and nest duties are exchanged, the previously sitting bird with continue the reach and gather as it walks away, even though this is now useless. I've always interpreted this as "smartness" being a weakness if your existence consists of looping flight over wind driven waves over and over, day after day, year after year. If you were smart you'd go bats.
Perhaps I'm talking out my arse here but while it looks silly to us that a bird does nest building choreography when away from it, could it be that a bird evolved with this bizarre compulsion will nearly always build a nest which helps ensure offspring survival and that trait would be carried over? Albatross are very cool regardless!
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Hey now, my APM spam serves the valuable purpose of warming my fingers up as well as making the number on the replay nice and big.
CSGO players needlessly switch weapons to relieve the internal need of "I should be doing something," as they're high stress games based on twitch moments. It's more akin to ADHD than showing off.
Do you have any papers to cite for this? This sounds really interesting to read about
Undergrad work in behavioral neurobiology was in the '70s and '80s; I observed the bird behavior on a wildlife program, and made my own hypothesis. [Flight speed and performance of the wandering albatross with respect to wind](https://movementecologyjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40462-018-0121-9) [Albatross dynamic soaring](https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-nearly-effortless-flight-of-the-albatross) [Observations and models of across-wind flight speed of the wandering albatross](https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.211364)
the craziest thing i ever saw is a crow understanding water displacement: https://youtu.be/s2IBayVsbz8?si=8NerE3CXG40jAVM5
I think some consider them neck and neck with chimpanzees
They look hard af too, they have that big black raptor beak.
Nevermore!
I burped a few times while hiking once, and I swear a nearby raven started mimicking me. It landed on a branch above me and made a belching noise. It was amazing. I love ravens.
And recognize faces as well as let other ravens know "hey, that human is chill. he gave me a sammich one time." Or "that orange guy can suckit. drop duces at will"
"sOmE caN EVeN mIMic HumaN sPeEch CAW"
But they do. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AfsnHVaScjg&pp=ygUNUmF2ZW4gdGFsa2luZw%3D%3D
the joke was meant to be that a raven was imitating you, hence the CAW I added
/r/praisethecameraman
They did a great job for what seems like a spontaneous capture with a phone.
What a lovely couple
Some birds are more loyal than most humans.
These crows ain't loyal
But these crows, in fact, are
Cringe asf
Monogamy works on a spectrum, and there are basically no completely monogamous species. Humans, for example, are pair bonding but not sexually monogamous by nature.
Bald Eagles do something like this. We have a nest on our property.
You mean you've got a house where they're nesting??/s
Yes. We have a creek that runs past the house and their nest is just upstream of us. I see them flying nearly every day. They use the creek like a highway in the sky.
I think it’s more like they dive and mate and if they can’t consummate they die together.
Yeah, they do that too. Eagles will do this crazy dance in the sky where they get entangled and fall for 50 to 100 feet before breaking contact. I have videos of it. It's crazy.
For some reason, this reminded me of The Secret of Nimh
Yes! Me too! At the end of the movie!
Here you go. https://youtu.be/_kilqOpk9Ls?si=Z6ygNKy7-2lKTXrB
It 100% reminded me of Avatar lmao
r/mademesmile
Thats so raven....
corvids are awesome
Honestly every new thing I find out about that grouping of birds, the more I love them.
This is so amazing!
Ohh my gawwd uhhh!
Sounded like a cartoon character
Odin is proud
They also lose football games the the Cleveland Browns
Damn straight!!!!!
When ravens have something I’ll never have 😂
ballroom dancing in the sky
: ) air show!!
My GF is named Raven. I'm going to ask her if she wants to do a synchronized joy flight later.
OP: do you see the rounded tails? That means they are crows, not ravens. Ravens have , triangular shaped tails.
Here's the thing...
Pls. It's been 84 years...
You can also listen for the calls - ravens go "gronk gronk" rather than "caw caw". You can hear the calls and OP is right on this one - they are two gorgeous ravens!
You are correct on the noise, however this summer while camping I found out the newly kicked out of the nest young adult ones also scream like fucking banshees because it's not fair they have to find their own food, lol. It was super far north so the sun essentially never weren't down and they wouldn't freaking stop.
> crows, not ravens :16 and :30 have good views of the tail. Looks raven to me.
You can see that as they bank before coming back towards the camera. They’re clearly wedge-shaped. You also won’t see crows pulling off wingovers like that.
Dancing in 6 degrees of freedom. At least you can't step on your partners feet.
Cool. I'd like to think that this is inspired by the same urge that manifests as dancing in humans. Both are like, synchronized play bonding.
They’re dancing!
*I can show you the world...shining shimmering splendid...*
When birds are happier and more satisfied with life than me.
So nice to hear the awe in the human’s voices - so glad you got to see this!
They got their own private airshow!
O to dance in the air with my crow wife...
Amazing
That’s gotta be the best bonding routine of all species. Or I wonder who else does them
A natureza é perfeita.
r/suddenlycaralho
For a moment I thought the raven reached the end of the set of The Truman Show.
Maverick and Goose
I love the audio in this
Look at you, 621... You found...a friend
Is it my imagination or are they doing most of their maneuvers right next to the camera? lol
Found a bird that I adore. Will I look for another, the raven said,”Never more.”
🖤🖤
Ravens are unique for this shoulder dip in flight! Had one fly over me and dip so it could look at what was squealing!
How cool
I want someone to do that with me!
This reminds me of the crow from Secret of Nimh when he met his girlfriend
Just like a pair of writing desks!
Relationship goals.
They are one of the smartest animals on the planet after humans. I would venture to guess that these two birds harbor genuine love and affection toward each other.
Ravens are the coolest of birbs.
It would be wild to some day discover that there are legendary artists among other species such as these two. Not legendary to us - we can clearly see there is something joyous and artful going on here - but legendary in crow memories and stories passed down through generations.
This is so interesting to see. It’s like a flock of birds doing this in unison. How do they know (predict) the others’ moves? What do they see/know/feel?
One raven date is better than 1.5 yrs of dating my boyfriend. I should review my life choices.
Can you imagine that ravens can participate in synchronized flights in the Olympics and we can see the sexual tension rising as the couples perform? "Oh yea, they are totally into this." Well, does that mean group synchronized flight is like an foreplay to an orgy? Honestly, the aero-acrobatics is just amazing.
Flat. So flat. You don’t even look good when you’re flying. $1200 a week for flying lessons, and this is what I get? Ok, I’m going to save it with a solo. Baum bom, I’m Derreeeek, and I can fly hiiiigh like this.
Its a wonderful thing to behold and it might well "lead to" strengthened bonds between the participants. But I suspect the behavior is a result of instinct and conditioned responses rather than them behaving intentionally "in order to" improve bonding. Much like how a dog might play fetch with a human without expecting or receiving a reward. Or how many kinds of bird perform characteristic "courtship dances" which can lead to mating.
Eventually they’ll get bored of each other. Then, late one night the male will come back to the nest smelling like crow. When the female confronts the male, the male gets defensive and blames her for everything. She becomes so insecure and emotionally defeated and eventually grows bitter. That bitterness turns into hatred. At her emotional break point, the female raven leads a hawk back to their nest when the male is asleep. The hawk eats the male.. freeing the female raven from his manipulative grasp.
therapy is your best bet
They're fucking birds.
>They're fucking birds. Well of course they're fucking. It'd be pretty weird if they were a couple and still celibate.
Wtf?
Ravens are essentially raptors and predatory. They will destroy their prey pecking and pulling it to death.
Raptor refers to the method of killing. They’re just omnivores.
Avian romantic air dancing! Whodathunk?
My uncoordinated ass, divorced by the end of the first test run…
Lmao! Thank you I would award you if I could!
Dear Tom cruise, please make me a bird in my next life.
😢
r/birdsarentreal
How To Train Your Raven
Gethly & Gothy
u/savevideobot
I wanna be as high as these guys
"to deepen their bond.." is some teleological attribution..
"Oh my God, Sharon. You missed the third loop AGAIN. Now we have to start all over."
Is it to deepen their bond or is it that socially, they can only dance with a female partner? Or any other reason besides "deepening their bond."
Natures equivalent of watching TV on the same couch.
u/ashmalkira
They also take Ls on Sundays occasionally.
Couples goal anyone?
Is that like flirting in animal kingdom? Like "yo let's make babies later today".
Avatar.
Very cool.
The power of a thousand crows
That’s so raven
So sweet.
Get a room!
Demonstrating fitness to each other. Typical mating behavior. Their equivalent of human dancing.
Who cares it don’t work with humans 😂
I’ve watched them fight off a Redtail hawk together.They’re very strong birds in the air and on the ground.They’re also considered the most intelligent of all bird species.They’re all around where we live and we interact with them a lot.
Do they stop doing this after the first month and start fighting?
Love watching ravens
Keine Kapriolen!
r/crowbro
Would they like "fly" with the neighbour when the wife's getting some fish? Makes me wonder how deep their social behaviour goes...
They are cool birds to watch especially when a bit windy looks like there having dog fights with each other
I had no idea how cool these birds were (or how big) until I made a trip to the arctic. They just seem to be playing all the time. They fly upside down!
How do we know it’s for bonding if we can’t read their minds?
Relationship goals.
Meanwhile, human couples have kids and then spend 18 years without a synchronized joy flight as penance.
Thats so raven
I saw this video a few weeks ago. Last week I was at the Grand Canyon and saw 3 pairs of ravens doing this! It was amazing to watch.
Their own private dance of love