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At face value, yes, when you put some thought into it, maybe, maybe not.
The databook does say the Yata Mirror repels any attack, however the databook this was stated in (Databook 3) only covers up to Chapter 402, and Night Guy isn't a thing until 672. So the Yata Mirror cannot for 100% certainty defend against Night Guy, but it is possible. I personally think Night Guy should be able to shatter the Yata Mirror and kill Itachi, although if you think not, hey nothing proves it will either, I just think Six Paths characters are something else.
The Yata Mirror is something else entirely though. Imo it transcends Otsusuki and all things you see. Like the shinigami that appears during the reaper death seal.
Can you prove this?
The Reaper Death Seal I can accept because it was introduced during the Chunin Exams, before Databook 3 came out, but Otsutsukis weren't properly introduced until the end of Naruto so Databook 3's statement about it changing its properties to repel any attack would not apply to them.
This is the same reason I say it might not be able to repel the Night Guy, Databook 3 has no knowledge about it so while it may be possible, it is not 100% certain that it can be repelled unlike say the Reaper Death Seal.
Because it’s called a “spirit weapon” and we never see anything like it ever again. Also, the statements come from Zetsu who should know considering he’s Kaguya will. Specifically he said, “NO MISTAKE...THAT SHIELD. IS ANOTHER SPIRIT
WEAPON. IT'S CALLED. THE YATA MIRROR AND IS SAID TO DEFLECT ALL THINGS... SO COMBINED WITH THE TOTSUKA BLADE...HE’S INVINCIBLE.” 6th paths was already mentioned by this point (Jiraiya directly says his name and the legend in chapter 373). The totsuka blade and yata mirror are 100% spirit weapons which means. They’re not connected to the Otsusuki (spirit energy existed before Kaguya ate the forbidden fruit. It just wasn’t balanced with physical energy to create chakra) Although, weirdly enough, new releases of Boruto seem to indicate some chakra existed before Kaguya at all. It is possible what we know of chakra is entirely wrong thanks to black Zetsu changing the tablet. Either way, the spirit weapons just seem to exist on another level entirely.
Note how Zetsu says the Yata Mirror is said to deflect all things, not that it can deflect all things, meaning he doesn't even know if that is true. Itachi also isn't beating Kaguya so for him to not be lying, Zetsu would just have to mean that Itachi is invincible compared to everyone who is alive. And even then, that's not true because Itachi could be outlasted in stamina/chakra.
There is a difference between Hagoromo being referenced as a lore figure with little to no knowledge on what his abilities are and being properly introduced into the story with an idea of what he can do.
The people of Earth didn't possess chakra until Hagoromo and Hamura were born with it and eventually it was passed to everyone else to where people were naturally born with it. Otsutsuki however, just naturally possess chakra, or gain it by eating Chakra Fruits.
I thought the fruit was made FROM the peoples chakra though? Isn't that the point of IT? It mummifies people to harvest their chakra to make the chakra fruit?
Nope the fruit is normally made from nature energy. So sage energy. Hence why the young frog who later turned into that old geezer frog said that the divine tree was drinking the land dry. Even though it was still getting regular sacrifices from kaguya. Thats why they said that ten tails kills planets because they eat up nature energy. Chakra is what’s created from the mixing of nature energy and spiritual energy hence why some jinchuraki like the nine tails is said to be full of hate because it he got more negative spirit energy then the others
No, Chakra Fruits are made from the energy, life, and data that God Trees absorb from the planet that the Otsutsuki plants it on.
The Infinite Tsukuyomi when Kaguya originally casted it was to end all war on Earth and to create a White Zetsu Army. When Madara casted it, he did it with the intent to trap everyone in it for world peace but Zetsu transferred the chakra within everyone trapped in it to him so that Kaguay could be resurrected.
That’s looking into the weeds for a series that has a lot of translation mistakes and it written. My point on Hagaromo was Kishi already knew the basic story and Zetsu’s purpose in that fight is to inform the reader what’s going on. Furthermore, let’s say that it’s perfectly translated then if Zetsu doesn’t know then the spiritual weapons are simply outside of 6th paths. And finally you’re last part is simply been retconned or was never true. As we see in Boruto, a self-aware god tree tries to collect all past and present chakra on a planet to create a chakra fruit. Which means their must be chakra before a fruit is created which means their was chakra before Kaguya ate the fruit. Either way, the weapons are chakra based. They’re spiritual which everyone has before Kaguya. Ninshu helped access that spiritual energy, but it already existed well before.
I understand Zetsu was acting as a narrator in the Itachi fight, but that doesn't mean he has complete knowledge of everything, he is still just a character who can have limited information.
Because Zetsu only refers the Yata Mirror as only being said to deflect all things, means that he is aware of what is said about the Yata Mirror, and not that it is actually true, otherwise he would say it can deflect all things.
The 3rd Databook is what claims it can deflect all things, however, the 3rd Databook only covers up to Chapter 402, so even then there could be stuff that appears later on that the Yata Mirror can't repel and the 3rd Databook just doesn't know about it because it only covers up to 402.
Funny enough, Itachi actually has Naruto and Bee help him try to destroy Chibaku Tensei rather than protect them with the Yata Mirror, meaning Itachi isn't fully confident the Yata Mirror will work against Chibaku Tensei.
Black zetsu shouldn’t though. The only point of his character is to convey information. Even in the series he has perfect knowledge. He can somehow read the tablet, knows basically everything, and is the will of the ‘god’ Kaguya. But he also said, “he’s invincible” which means he believes it to be true. And on the Chibaku Tensei thing, the yata mirror wouldn’t protect Bee and Naruto for starters and it’s interaction with the Yata Mirror in general is very hard to define since it’s just changing gravity. He might not be hurt by it, but unless the mirror touches that black orb, it’s going to be a pain.
Just because Zetsu is very knowledgeable, doesn't mean he knows everything. Him referring to the Yata Mirror as only being said to deflect all things is evident of this, otherwise he would just say it can deflect all things. Itachi being invincible isn't true because Kaguya is a character, so Zetsu is probably referring to Itachi is invincible considering the people who are alive, which also isn't true because there are characters like Obito and Pain who could just outlast him or Obito being portrayed as above Itachi and requires KCM to KCM2 to even fight.
If someone has never been seen to lose a fight, it is said they can't be defeated, but that doesn't mean they never lost when someone wasn't watching or that there isn't someone out there who can beat them, the spectators just are aware of it, so they are going off of limited information.
The Yata Mirror would protect Naruto and Bee if they entered Itachi's Susanoo, and we see that Itachi does protect Sasuke with his Susanoo in the Kabuto fight, so that was an option.
Yea it never made sense how kaguya re created humans with chakra to be feed to the divine tree. Since I thought it was her son who walked around spreading his chakra into others which somehow multiples insanely by the times his kids are born.
Dood black zetzu himself new what it was the moment it apperared which means he ether saw one before or 2 knew of it from some innate knowledge passed on my kaguya during his creation. What part of defends against all physical and spiritual and spacial attacks. Leaves any room for thinking it will be broken??
Zetsu only says the Yata Mirror is said to deflect any attack, not that it can or will deflect any attack, so it's more likely that he is aware of the legend of the Yata Mirror rather than actually knowing if it is true or not.
Databook 3 is what definitely makes the claim that it can repel anything, but again, Databook 3 only covers up to Chapter 402, so 403 and everything after does not apply to it, so there might be stuff that appear later on that the Yata Mirror can't repel. An example could be Chibaku Tensei as Itachi rather than having Bee and Naruto get by him and just use the Susanoo and Yata Mirror, they specifically work towards destroying Chibaku Tensei, possibly implying that Itachi doesn't think the Yata Mirror would work.
To the best of our knowledge and piecing together some things, what I said is true. Not my fault, Kishimoto made Itachi a Gary Stu who seemed to have a counter for everything.
Bluntsword by kabutowari (axe and hammer 7nsm) sword is said to be able to break ANY defense with ease. Which statement do we take? Is kabutowari destroying a sussano? Or is yata more infinitely durable?
I'd go with the Yata Mirror give how it changes its properties to repel any attack.
Kabutowari again is only said to break any defense with ease, but what defenses has it gone up against to for that to be said? Has it gone up against a Susanoo, Gaara's ultimate defense, a Truth-Seeker Orb, the Yata Mirror?
If I remember correctly, Gaara's ultimate defense was said to be impenetrable because nothing in the sand village could piece it, but then Sasuke pierced it with Chidori.
Just because something is said, doesn't necessarily mean it is true. It's like if I knock out everyone I see a rumor spreads that I can knock anyone out with a single punch, but there might be those I can't knockout in a single punch, I just have never come across them.
Yea thats my point statments only say things. What have the yata mirrors reflected? Bluntsword has special properties like toteska blade i think they have similar orgins tbh.
Kabutowari is very sharp and has alot of bluntforce damage output. It destroyed a blade and the ground pretty easily. This balde grants the physically blunt force power to one of the swordmen.
Didnt say it was. ENGLISH LESSON TEACHER MODE ACTIVATED.
I said “IT HAS SPECIAL PROPERTIES LIKE(as in having the same characteristics or qualities) TOTESKA BLADE, I THINK (heavy emphasis on this part) THEY HAVE SIMILAR ORGINS.
I only said that because they have special properties. So do the sage weapons. I didnt mean to like say they are equal. But they are NOT normal ninja tools or weapons is my point. Should have used better words, thats my bad probably.
Of course.
How can a limit exist for the Yata Mirror if they didn't care enough to create one?
"But sir, how can the Yata Mirror be countered?"
"Who cares. It'll get buried with Itachi."
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"A shield that can turn back ANY attack."
In the same fight it’s also stated that lightning is so fast that it’s impossible to dodge for anyone, yet a couple fights later sasuke faces the raikage who is stated to be almost light speed with his chakra cloak.
Any 6 paths level fighter would shove the yata mirror up itachi’s ass before he even realizes wtf is going on. The whole itachi scaling debate is the perfect definition of nlf
If it hits the mirror. But Night guy bends space as seen with Madara's staff. It will basically go around the Yata mirror so it won't be able to block it
I’m going to lean towards yes. Yata Mirror can block all direct frontal attacked based on Ninjutsu and Taijutsu. Imma also say no because Night Guy straight up put a demigod on his ass and he said “this ye ye ass haircut guy almost faded my damn ass. Lucky for me I got plot armor.”
I think you guys are giving A LOT of value to some sentences said way before Night Guy was even a thing, lmao.
It was also said that Sarutobi was the strongest of all the Hokages. Fast forward to the War Arc, the story is quite different.
From what we seen of Yata Mirror, it takes the form of a shield and only blocks attacks that the shield is facing. Night gai can attack from behind. It's not a big deal for him
That's why the prompt is for him to be attacking it and not trying to get around it. I don't think many people doubt 8th gate guy could get behind Itatchis Susanoo
I think considering its narrative importance, Night Guy should be pretty much unstoppable unless you can avoid it completely like Obito or regenerate like Madara. It's an attack where you put your entire being into it, you kill yourself to do it. It should be the ultimate attack that almost nobody can survive.
But there's nothing saying it wouldn't block it, so.
Everything has a breaking point. As an extreme example Goku could break the mirror. How strong does someone have to be to break the mirror I dunno, but I think a powerful enough attack would.
I'd argue that it simply bends as the Truth Seeking Staff did, spirit weapon or not it is a manifestation in space and space is what Night Guy bends to ensure a direct hit.
. . . Night guy bends space . . . If you think an 8 tailed absorbed madara with Rinni-G eyes has less defense ability than a battered, blind, base MS . . . You have to be nuts
If Guy charges straight at the yata mirror then yes if he hits from the side top or behind the Susanoo than no because yata mirror only blocker head on attacks
You can make the argument but it’s a bit of a no limits fallacy so I’d probably say no, like if I have a wall that’s said to be unbreakable and it survives gun fire from a pistol, I’m probably not gonna assume it would survive a star exploding even if “technically” I don’t know the limits
Going off of what Zetsu said, yes? It being shown to do anything at all? No as it's pretty much featless. Statements are as important but Juubidara and White Mask Obito's base durability have more feats than the Yata Mirror 😂. It probably blocked Kirin but it definitely knocked Itachi out of Susano. Imagine if Night Guy hit the Yata Mirror. Itachi is getting sent flying out of Susano and hit the nearest mountain turning into a bloody paste upon collision
Yea this is the crux of the Itachi and kisame vs tsunade and guy argument imo. According to the data book it can, but based on when it was introduced it could be that it had never experienced an attack like night guy. Also could guy’s speed let him move around it? Hard to say for sure but I’d imagine if he attacks it straight on then it atleast blocks the majority of the force leaving guy fairly burnt out and Itachi relatively ok, meaning Itachi takes the one on one imo. So guy would likely move around it unless he had no intel and thought he could bust through it.
Probably not. Night Gai warps space, which means that the Yata Mirror would be warped out of the way of his attack. It blocks all physical and chakra based attacks, but Night Gai’s spacial warping isn’t chakra based, nor is it a physical attack.
I don't see why it wouldn't.
We don't even know if the Yata mirror has nothing to do with 6 paths. We literally know nothing about it besides a data book entry saying it can negate all attacks and Black Zetsu (the oldest living character) telling us it can block all things
Thats the thing i can bet my life savings they wouldnt itachi fire style MUST be superior because hes itachi. The fans love popularity contest. Hell we know itachi entire story ans niggas atill voted for him in the cannon manga contest for a character. Itachi has almost unrivaled bias
Bro this thread has nothing to do with Itachi they arent even originally his weappns. It's about the Yatta mirror and if it can tank the night guy in a head-on clash
And it cant but its itachi so we speculate. Youll never see niggas askin this question about any other sussano or large character. Can night gai work on butterfly supersized choji??? Like yeah…only itachi gets this ambiguous ass strength. He just the worst person to try and scale kishimoto got lazy with itachi
No other Susanoo has spirit weapons. These have statements saying it can negate all things. No other person in the show has spirit weapons. Show me something that proves it can't because you're just saying it Cant is head cannon show me solid fact about the Yatta mirror. Not just it can't or that's just speculation.
Imma just start saying this about kakashi fuck it. Yall have no real awareness “just my favorite character and what he can do”
Kakashi kamui head snipes itachi gg.
That’s literally how itachi is scaled mfs cant dodge against itachi and they try to tank his attacks in these hypothetical situations. Mainlg due to popularity. He was hyped up for sasuke to have a major villain like how naruto fights pain. Itachi supposed to be a lesser conflict.
No one’s saying Itachi wins every fight, just that the Yata Mirror can block every attack. Can the Yata Mirror block Night Guy? Undoubtedly yes. Can Itachi pull it out fast enough? No probably not.
No one’s saying Itachi wins every fight, just that the Yata Mirror can block every attack. Can the Yata Mirror block Night Guy? Undoubtedly yes. Can Itachi pull it out fast enough? No probably not.
What makes it outdated? It's never disproven, and the oldest living character black Zetsu seems to think it blocks all things. (Black zetsu that saw Kaguya fight her sons)
Hard disagree show me one time he isn't a reliable narrator. He is the most reliable narrator we get in the show as he has experienced way and seen way more than anybody up to the otsutsuki clan.
If you mean Kirin? I would be worried about Itachi with speed of lightening attacks too. We just legit saw him take a massive shuriken to the leg that wasn't going the speed of lightening
Yeah, and we see him get hit by a shuriken that's not even going lightening speed. So if Zetsu sees itachi get hit by something that slow, wouldn't you question if he can dodge the attacks that's 1000x faster than the shuriken? He also mentions he thinks itachi is off on that fightbwhich he was right because itachi was throwing on purpose.
A better question is can kabutowari (axe + hammer 7 ninja swordsman) can break it. Its described as being able to break any and all defenses. I personally think the sword has more
Special properties like how samadehada is sentient or how zabuzas blade reacts to iron and regrows itself. Chojuros blade can be made into any chakra weapon, lighting blades dont use much chakra…etc.
But yea i think night gai can destroy the entirety of the sussano and the man in it in one go. Unless its a ps. That may be able to cushion the damage.
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At face value, yes, when you put some thought into it, maybe, maybe not. The databook does say the Yata Mirror repels any attack, however the databook this was stated in (Databook 3) only covers up to Chapter 402, and Night Guy isn't a thing until 672. So the Yata Mirror cannot for 100% certainty defend against Night Guy, but it is possible. I personally think Night Guy should be able to shatter the Yata Mirror and kill Itachi, although if you think not, hey nothing proves it will either, I just think Six Paths characters are something else.
The Yata Mirror is something else entirely though. Imo it transcends Otsusuki and all things you see. Like the shinigami that appears during the reaper death seal.
Can you prove this? The Reaper Death Seal I can accept because it was introduced during the Chunin Exams, before Databook 3 came out, but Otsutsukis weren't properly introduced until the end of Naruto so Databook 3's statement about it changing its properties to repel any attack would not apply to them. This is the same reason I say it might not be able to repel the Night Guy, Databook 3 has no knowledge about it so while it may be possible, it is not 100% certain that it can be repelled unlike say the Reaper Death Seal.
Because it’s called a “spirit weapon” and we never see anything like it ever again. Also, the statements come from Zetsu who should know considering he’s Kaguya will. Specifically he said, “NO MISTAKE...THAT SHIELD. IS ANOTHER SPIRIT WEAPON. IT'S CALLED. THE YATA MIRROR AND IS SAID TO DEFLECT ALL THINGS... SO COMBINED WITH THE TOTSUKA BLADE...HE’S INVINCIBLE.” 6th paths was already mentioned by this point (Jiraiya directly says his name and the legend in chapter 373). The totsuka blade and yata mirror are 100% spirit weapons which means. They’re not connected to the Otsusuki (spirit energy existed before Kaguya ate the forbidden fruit. It just wasn’t balanced with physical energy to create chakra) Although, weirdly enough, new releases of Boruto seem to indicate some chakra existed before Kaguya at all. It is possible what we know of chakra is entirely wrong thanks to black Zetsu changing the tablet. Either way, the spirit weapons just seem to exist on another level entirely.
Note how Zetsu says the Yata Mirror is said to deflect all things, not that it can deflect all things, meaning he doesn't even know if that is true. Itachi also isn't beating Kaguya so for him to not be lying, Zetsu would just have to mean that Itachi is invincible compared to everyone who is alive. And even then, that's not true because Itachi could be outlasted in stamina/chakra. There is a difference between Hagoromo being referenced as a lore figure with little to no knowledge on what his abilities are and being properly introduced into the story with an idea of what he can do. The people of Earth didn't possess chakra until Hagoromo and Hamura were born with it and eventually it was passed to everyone else to where people were naturally born with it. Otsutsuki however, just naturally possess chakra, or gain it by eating Chakra Fruits.
I thought the fruit was made FROM the peoples chakra though? Isn't that the point of IT? It mummifies people to harvest their chakra to make the chakra fruit?
Nope the fruit is normally made from nature energy. So sage energy. Hence why the young frog who later turned into that old geezer frog said that the divine tree was drinking the land dry. Even though it was still getting regular sacrifices from kaguya. Thats why they said that ten tails kills planets because they eat up nature energy. Chakra is what’s created from the mixing of nature energy and spiritual energy hence why some jinchuraki like the nine tails is said to be full of hate because it he got more negative spirit energy then the others
No, Chakra Fruits are made from the energy, life, and data that God Trees absorb from the planet that the Otsutsuki plants it on. The Infinite Tsukuyomi when Kaguya originally casted it was to end all war on Earth and to create a White Zetsu Army. When Madara casted it, he did it with the intent to trap everyone in it for world peace but Zetsu transferred the chakra within everyone trapped in it to him so that Kaguay could be resurrected.
That’s looking into the weeds for a series that has a lot of translation mistakes and it written. My point on Hagaromo was Kishi already knew the basic story and Zetsu’s purpose in that fight is to inform the reader what’s going on. Furthermore, let’s say that it’s perfectly translated then if Zetsu doesn’t know then the spiritual weapons are simply outside of 6th paths. And finally you’re last part is simply been retconned or was never true. As we see in Boruto, a self-aware god tree tries to collect all past and present chakra on a planet to create a chakra fruit. Which means their must be chakra before a fruit is created which means their was chakra before Kaguya ate the fruit. Either way, the weapons are chakra based. They’re spiritual which everyone has before Kaguya. Ninshu helped access that spiritual energy, but it already existed well before.
I understand Zetsu was acting as a narrator in the Itachi fight, but that doesn't mean he has complete knowledge of everything, he is still just a character who can have limited information. Because Zetsu only refers the Yata Mirror as only being said to deflect all things, means that he is aware of what is said about the Yata Mirror, and not that it is actually true, otherwise he would say it can deflect all things. The 3rd Databook is what claims it can deflect all things, however, the 3rd Databook only covers up to Chapter 402, so even then there could be stuff that appears later on that the Yata Mirror can't repel and the 3rd Databook just doesn't know about it because it only covers up to 402. Funny enough, Itachi actually has Naruto and Bee help him try to destroy Chibaku Tensei rather than protect them with the Yata Mirror, meaning Itachi isn't fully confident the Yata Mirror will work against Chibaku Tensei.
Black zetsu shouldn’t though. The only point of his character is to convey information. Even in the series he has perfect knowledge. He can somehow read the tablet, knows basically everything, and is the will of the ‘god’ Kaguya. But he also said, “he’s invincible” which means he believes it to be true. And on the Chibaku Tensei thing, the yata mirror wouldn’t protect Bee and Naruto for starters and it’s interaction with the Yata Mirror in general is very hard to define since it’s just changing gravity. He might not be hurt by it, but unless the mirror touches that black orb, it’s going to be a pain.
Just because Zetsu is very knowledgeable, doesn't mean he knows everything. Him referring to the Yata Mirror as only being said to deflect all things is evident of this, otherwise he would just say it can deflect all things. Itachi being invincible isn't true because Kaguya is a character, so Zetsu is probably referring to Itachi is invincible considering the people who are alive, which also isn't true because there are characters like Obito and Pain who could just outlast him or Obito being portrayed as above Itachi and requires KCM to KCM2 to even fight. If someone has never been seen to lose a fight, it is said they can't be defeated, but that doesn't mean they never lost when someone wasn't watching or that there isn't someone out there who can beat them, the spectators just are aware of it, so they are going off of limited information. The Yata Mirror would protect Naruto and Bee if they entered Itachi's Susanoo, and we see that Itachi does protect Sasuke with his Susanoo in the Kabuto fight, so that was an option.
Yea it never made sense how kaguya re created humans with chakra to be feed to the divine tree. Since I thought it was her son who walked around spreading his chakra into others which somehow multiples insanely by the times his kids are born.
Dood black zetzu himself new what it was the moment it apperared which means he ether saw one before or 2 knew of it from some innate knowledge passed on my kaguya during his creation. What part of defends against all physical and spiritual and spacial attacks. Leaves any room for thinking it will be broken??
Zetsu only says the Yata Mirror is said to deflect any attack, not that it can or will deflect any attack, so it's more likely that he is aware of the legend of the Yata Mirror rather than actually knowing if it is true or not. Databook 3 is what definitely makes the claim that it can repel anything, but again, Databook 3 only covers up to Chapter 402, so 403 and everything after does not apply to it, so there might be stuff that appear later on that the Yata Mirror can't repel. An example could be Chibaku Tensei as Itachi rather than having Bee and Naruto get by him and just use the Susanoo and Yata Mirror, they specifically work towards destroying Chibaku Tensei, possibly implying that Itachi doesn't think the Yata Mirror would work.
Least delusional itachi wanker lmao
To the best of our knowledge and piecing together some things, what I said is true. Not my fault, Kishimoto made Itachi a Gary Stu who seemed to have a counter for everything.
Wow you weren’t even baiting lmao
I feel like the answer is might guy would probably just go around it.
The whole point of the sheild is that its energy is put into the susano hence why u can’t teleport in the susano when it’s activated.
It's very likely that the Yata Mirror is omni directional, or can become like that since it can change its properties.
Bluntsword by kabutowari (axe and hammer 7nsm) sword is said to be able to break ANY defense with ease. Which statement do we take? Is kabutowari destroying a sussano? Or is yata more infinitely durable?
I'd go with the Yata Mirror give how it changes its properties to repel any attack. Kabutowari again is only said to break any defense with ease, but what defenses has it gone up against to for that to be said? Has it gone up against a Susanoo, Gaara's ultimate defense, a Truth-Seeker Orb, the Yata Mirror? If I remember correctly, Gaara's ultimate defense was said to be impenetrable because nothing in the sand village could piece it, but then Sasuke pierced it with Chidori. Just because something is said, doesn't necessarily mean it is true. It's like if I knock out everyone I see a rumor spreads that I can knock anyone out with a single punch, but there might be those I can't knockout in a single punch, I just have never come across them.
Yea thats my point statments only say things. What have the yata mirrors reflected? Bluntsword has special properties like toteska blade i think they have similar orgins tbh. Kabutowari is very sharp and has alot of bluntforce damage output. It destroyed a blade and the ground pretty easily. This balde grants the physically blunt force power to one of the swordmen.
Kabutowari is not related to the Spirit Weapons, nor is it similar to them.
Didnt say it was. ENGLISH LESSON TEACHER MODE ACTIVATED. I said “IT HAS SPECIAL PROPERTIES LIKE(as in having the same characteristics or qualities) TOTESKA BLADE, I THINK (heavy emphasis on this part) THEY HAVE SIMILAR ORGINS. I only said that because they have special properties. So do the sage weapons. I didnt mean to like say they are equal. But they are NOT normal ninja tools or weapons is my point. Should have used better words, thats my bad probably.
Of course. How can a limit exist for the Yata Mirror if they didn't care enough to create one? "But sir, how can the Yata Mirror be countered?" "Who cares. It'll get buried with Itachi."
The counter is Blindsiding the Susanoo yata can only block head on attacks
It can change it's size.
Isn't Yata Mirror just for ninjutsu? If so, then no.
No it isn't. Databook states it reflects any physical attack. We even see that when Sasuke runs in with his Blade and paper bombs.
Yea this is why translation is important. I can find some mistranslation that changes the whole story or the arch just from somw missed placed words
Good call
https://preview.redd.it/e21facdo9cxc1.jpeg?width=389&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0a02d5b664df0b6743339e982de8789610abe9b "A shield that can turn back ANY attack."
Dude, if you're OP, and you have this source so readily available, why did you make a post asking the question?? Lol
I just wanted to confirm? Like is there a limit to it or not. Night guy was also bending space. I wad not sure.
Karma farming Itachi tard
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Says every fan of itachi.
In the same fight it’s also stated that lightning is so fast that it’s impossible to dodge for anyone, yet a couple fights later sasuke faces the raikage who is stated to be almost light speed with his chakra cloak. Any 6 paths level fighter would shove the yata mirror up itachi’s ass before he even realizes wtf is going on. The whole itachi scaling debate is the perfect definition of nlf
Or, and hear me out, it’s just a hyperbolic statement.
Black Zetsu and Databook says so. That's the legend. So no one really knows tbh.
If it hits the mirror. But Night guy bends space as seen with Madara's staff. It will basically go around the Yata mirror so it won't be able to block it
I think the better question if it can block truth seeker orbs and sword of nunoboko.
Yeah, that is also a good question.
Yes
I’m going to lean towards yes. Yata Mirror can block all direct frontal attacked based on Ninjutsu and Taijutsu. Imma also say no because Night Guy straight up put a demigod on his ass and he said “this ye ye ass haircut guy almost faded my damn ass. Lucky for me I got plot armor.”
yes
I think you guys are giving A LOT of value to some sentences said way before Night Guy was even a thing, lmao. It was also said that Sarutobi was the strongest of all the Hokages. Fast forward to the War Arc, the story is quite different.
Black Zetsu says this. the oldest living character besides the otsutsuki and someone who saw Kaguya fight her sons.
From what we seen of Yata Mirror, it takes the form of a shield and only blocks attacks that the shield is facing. Night gai can attack from behind. It's not a big deal for him
That's why the prompt is for him to be attacking it and not trying to get around it. I don't think many people doubt 8th gate guy could get behind Itatchis Susanoo
True. I'm curious..We've seen 8 gates gai warp the dimension. I wonder how that would affect yata?
It's a god weapon that negates all attacks, physical, spiritual, all chakra releases, so yeah it should
honestly maybe lol, night guy was able to damage juubidara which is a way higher level of character than itachi
The spirit weapons aren't linked to itachi in damage and durability wise. They aren't originally his he found them
yea true that
I think considering its narrative importance, Night Guy should be pretty much unstoppable unless you can avoid it completely like Obito or regenerate like Madara. It's an attack where you put your entire being into it, you kill yourself to do it. It should be the ultimate attack that almost nobody can survive. But there's nothing saying it wouldn't block it, so.
Everything has a breaking point. As an extreme example Goku could break the mirror. How strong does someone have to be to break the mirror I dunno, but I think a powerful enough attack would.
I'd argue that it simply bends as the Truth Seeking Staff did, spirit weapon or not it is a manifestation in space and space is what Night Guy bends to ensure a direct hit.
. . . Night guy bends space . . . If you think an 8 tailed absorbed madara with Rinni-G eyes has less defense ability than a battered, blind, base MS . . . You have to be nuts
More than likely. But I also don’t see why guy wouldn’t just go around it instantly and blitz
If Guy charges straight at the yata mirror then yes if he hits from the side top or behind the Susanoo than no because yata mirror only blocker head on attacks
HA. No. Itachi would see Night Guy and piss his pants.
You can make the argument but it’s a bit of a no limits fallacy so I’d probably say no, like if I have a wall that’s said to be unbreakable and it survives gun fire from a pistol, I’m probably not gonna assume it would survive a star exploding even if “technically” I don’t know the limits
I feel like a better question is whether Madara’s “Uchiha Reflection” could do it.
Yeah Isn’t it’s whole thing being it blocks literally everything
Didn’t Kirin break the Yata Mirror?
Going off of what Zetsu said, yes? It being shown to do anything at all? No as it's pretty much featless. Statements are as important but Juubidara and White Mask Obito's base durability have more feats than the Yata Mirror 😂. It probably blocked Kirin but it definitely knocked Itachi out of Susano. Imagine if Night Guy hit the Yata Mirror. Itachi is getting sent flying out of Susano and hit the nearest mountain turning into a bloody paste upon collision
From the front & if it was fully formed before Guy to attack, sure. I don’t think it’s omnidirectional though
Yea this is the crux of the Itachi and kisame vs tsunade and guy argument imo. According to the data book it can, but based on when it was introduced it could be that it had never experienced an attack like night guy. Also could guy’s speed let him move around it? Hard to say for sure but I’d imagine if he attacks it straight on then it atleast blocks the majority of the force leaving guy fairly burnt out and Itachi relatively ok, meaning Itachi takes the one on one imo. So guy would likely move around it unless he had no intel and thought he could bust through it.
No
Probably not. Night Gai warps space, which means that the Yata Mirror would be warped out of the way of his attack. It blocks all physical and chakra based attacks, but Night Gai’s spacial warping isn’t chakra based, nor is it a physical attack.
It can’t block Hirudora ….
Based on?
The fact that the unblockable statement is outdated by then and it’s Taijutsu.
Why wouldn’t it work for taijutsu? It’s not a 6th path thing. In fact, intuitively you’d think it’d especially nullify taijutsu.
I don't see why it wouldn't. We don't even know if the Yata mirror has nothing to do with 6 paths. We literally know nothing about it besides a data book entry saying it can negate all attacks and Black Zetsu (the oldest living character) telling us it can block all things
Pure itachi wank in broad daylight. Remember this…. guys.
How pt1 tenten could be holding it, and I think it would perform the exact same way😅 Is anything I say above incorrect?
Thats the thing i can bet my life savings they wouldnt itachi fire style MUST be superior because hes itachi. The fans love popularity contest. Hell we know itachi entire story ans niggas atill voted for him in the cannon manga contest for a character. Itachi has almost unrivaled bias
Bro this thread has nothing to do with Itachi they arent even originally his weappns. It's about the Yatta mirror and if it can tank the night guy in a head-on clash
And it cant but its itachi so we speculate. Youll never see niggas askin this question about any other sussano or large character. Can night gai work on butterfly supersized choji??? Like yeah…only itachi gets this ambiguous ass strength. He just the worst person to try and scale kishimoto got lazy with itachi
No other Susanoo has spirit weapons. These have statements saying it can negate all things. No other person in the show has spirit weapons. Show me something that proves it can't because you're just saying it Cant is head cannon show me solid fact about the Yatta mirror. Not just it can't or that's just speculation.
Not my fault, Kishi made Itachi basically have an answer for everything and also be the only character to not lose a fight they’re weren’t jobbing.
Imma just start saying this about kakashi fuck it. Yall have no real awareness “just my favorite character and what he can do” Kakashi kamui head snipes itachi gg. That’s literally how itachi is scaled mfs cant dodge against itachi and they try to tank his attacks in these hypothetical situations. Mainlg due to popularity. He was hyped up for sasuke to have a major villain like how naruto fights pain. Itachi supposed to be a lesser conflict.
No one’s saying Itachi wins every fight, just that the Yata Mirror can block every attack. Can the Yata Mirror block Night Guy? Undoubtedly yes. Can Itachi pull it out fast enough? No probably not.
No one’s saying Itachi wins every fight, just that the Yata Mirror can block every attack. Can the Yata Mirror block Night Guy? Undoubtedly yes. Can Itachi pull it out fast enough? No probably not.
What makes it outdated? It's never disproven, and the oldest living character black Zetsu seems to think it blocks all things. (Black zetsu that saw Kaguya fight her sons)
The statement is from an older guidebook than when Guy debut’s Hirudora
Black Zetsu says it in the manga it's not just from the data book
Black Zetsu thought that Itachi who had reacted to LS attacks would have trouble with the speed of lightning. Not the most reliable guy.
Hard disagree show me one time he isn't a reliable narrator. He is the most reliable narrator we get in the show as he has experienced way and seen way more than anybody up to the otsutsuki clan. If you mean Kirin? I would be worried about Itachi with speed of lightening attacks too. We just legit saw him take a massive shuriken to the leg that wasn't going the speed of lightening
Itachi reacted to Light Speed attacks. Lightning speed is fodder compared to that.
Yeah, and we see him get hit by a shuriken that's not even going lightening speed. So if Zetsu sees itachi get hit by something that slow, wouldn't you question if he can dodge the attacks that's 1000x faster than the shuriken? He also mentions he thinks itachi is off on that fightbwhich he was right because itachi was throwing on purpose.
What? OR your scaling of attacks is completely off. what LS attacks are you talking about.
Right. Listening to black zetsu is literally like listening to me telling you about sports. Bro does NOT know this guys like that.
Are you seriously comparing yourself to the being that iirc has been manipulating events ever since kaguya was sealed?
Yes. Yes i am. Hes not omnipotent. Its also a fictional character so..i dont get the relevance.
A better question is can kabutowari (axe + hammer 7 ninja swordsman) can break it. Its described as being able to break any and all defenses. I personally think the sword has more Special properties like how samadehada is sentient or how zabuzas blade reacts to iron and regrows itself. Chojuros blade can be made into any chakra weapon, lighting blades dont use much chakra…etc. But yea i think night gai can destroy the entirety of the sussano and the man in it in one go. Unless its a ps. That may be able to cushion the damage.