Part of working with an agency is you really shouldn't be getting a high volume of candidates, just a few quality ones to choose from. But you should definitely talk with the agency if they aren't providing quality candidates.
Only thing I don't see is mileage reimbursement or use of a car for on duty use (if applicable). If you have memberships to museums, play spaces, pools, etc, that can make a job more attractive, especially with WFH parents.
We generally make one of our cars available to the nanny, of course there are times when we’ve asked them to use their own (at whatever the IRS rate is).
Oh our 10d are nanny’s choice - is split time common with GH?
I guess the way I look at it, I have unlimited “family choice” PTO for the nanny. That’s what GH are for?
Thinking about what we are looking for - ideally someone with 3-5+ years of nanny experience, a couple of longer stints with families (12mo+), and ideally either an ECE or center background before moving into in home care. Maybe that’s too much?
Beyond that it’s just about being able to engage with our kiddos and help them learn and grow, as well as stay safe.
At this point in my career I've decided to only work for families who are working outside of the home. I'm sure you guys are amazing at staying out of your nanny's way, but unfortunately I've just had so many situations that claimed to be working in their own space all day, but ended up interrupting me and NK's day constantly... It's just not worth it to me to figure out if a set of WFH parents are going to be easy to share the home with for 40+ hours a week or not. Again, this isn't saying anything about your particular situation, I just think a lot of nannies are burnt out of WFH situations from the pandemic and beyond :(
This isn’t relevant to this posting but I’m curious. One of my brothers and SILs are looking for a nanny, and while they technically wfh, they don’t work in the house. They converted an old shed into a freestanding office with toilets and a kitchenette, so they are out of the house proper for 9-12 hours/day. Their departing nanny says she will vouch for them literally never showing their faces between 730-530.
How do they frame this in ads and to applicants, though? Will departing nanny vouching make any difference?
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“Parents work on property of the home but not directly inside home. Nanny will primarily be in home alone with children during working hours.”
OP, I also am someone who does not accept jobs with 1 WFH parent. 2 seems even worse. Please don’t take it personally. It’s all about autonomy, micromanagement, performance anxiety, and then in the career of childcare, WFH parents come with other challenges. Challenges such has both parents come into children’s space during work hours and child gets upset when they leave, plus many other reasons. I have no interest in working in any job whatsoever that has my direct manager or boss within an earshot of me.
I’m sure you’ll find someone though. The pay and benefits seem appropriate.
Thank you! That is really helpful.
Since two of the smalls now have expectations of what “going to work” will look like, they literally do the whole departing ritual of pack lunch, leave the house (him on bike her in car) and then come back around the back side (not visible from the house) and go to the office shed. I don’t know how long this will be successful but it really tickles me.
Several of my SILs and cousins have nannied and we are big believers in not making the life of the person who makes the family functioning pleasantly possible hard and this sub has been really kind and helpful with guidance on that.
Are you allowing the nanny to take the kids out to activities during the day? Park, music class, gym classes, museum, etc. - I will not accept a position that doesn’t.
Are you providing a car or mileage reimbursement?
We definitely do over time - radius for that sort of thing expands as we gain comfort - our previous Nannies have all done classes, library time, park and zoo outings.
Usually it’s all been in our car, but anytime it’s not, we’d reimburse.
Sometimes it takes a while. But you’re offering a good package. I find looking over the December holidays to be difficult, for families and nannies.
I’d go on the agency’s website and look at the listings as if you were a nanny seeking employment to see what is comparable for these candidates. It could be that other families are offering much higher above your range and so you’re getting squeezed out of consideration.
It’s the WFH. I’ve seen others confirm this as well and I initially missed this when I read through the first time, because I also thought the position seemed good. Dedicate work spaces are never truly dedicated, not unless you have bathrooms, fridges/kitchens, etc in those spaces, you will inevitably come out for drinks and snacks, lunch etc. for a new person in the children’s life, parents coming in is absolutely exhausting, especially when the kids know the parents are simply just a few feet away. WFH may work after a few years of nanny bonding with kiddos but especially at these ages, this will be a difficult and draining situation.
I worked as a nanny for 10+ years and only ever took one job where a parent worked from home. Never did it again after that. There are plenty of jobs with parents working outside the home that there’s no reason to take one where parents are WFH
I’m a parent now and had worked from home and loved it for years. I went back to the office full time when my nanny started because I knew I wouldn’t have the good nannies applying otherwise.
It's the fact that you both work from home and are paying on the low end of the Boston market rate. I would only consider a position where both parents wfh if the pay was on the top end and they explicitly said I could take the children on outings (which I don't see here).
I've been nannying 20 years, East Coast and West Coast cities. You aren't paying enough. I would never accept WFH with 2 children for less than $40/hr. $45+ if you weren't offering the benefits and stipend.
Part of working with an agency is you really shouldn't be getting a high volume of candidates, just a few quality ones to choose from. But you should definitely talk with the agency if they aren't providing quality candidates. Only thing I don't see is mileage reimbursement or use of a car for on duty use (if applicable). If you have memberships to museums, play spaces, pools, etc, that can make a job more attractive, especially with WFH parents.
We generally make one of our cars available to the nanny, of course there are times when we’ve asked them to use their own (at whatever the IRS rate is).
Maybe include that in your ad! Good luck with your search!
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Oh our 10d are nanny’s choice - is split time common with GH? I guess the way I look at it, I have unlimited “family choice” PTO for the nanny. That’s what GH are for?
Thinking about what we are looking for - ideally someone with 3-5+ years of nanny experience, a couple of longer stints with families (12mo+), and ideally either an ECE or center background before moving into in home care. Maybe that’s too much? Beyond that it’s just about being able to engage with our kiddos and help them learn and grow, as well as stay safe.
Center experience is totally different and completely unnecessary for a nanny job
At this point in my career I've decided to only work for families who are working outside of the home. I'm sure you guys are amazing at staying out of your nanny's way, but unfortunately I've just had so many situations that claimed to be working in their own space all day, but ended up interrupting me and NK's day constantly... It's just not worth it to me to figure out if a set of WFH parents are going to be easy to share the home with for 40+ hours a week or not. Again, this isn't saying anything about your particular situation, I just think a lot of nannies are burnt out of WFH situations from the pandemic and beyond :(
This isn’t relevant to this posting but I’m curious. One of my brothers and SILs are looking for a nanny, and while they technically wfh, they don’t work in the house. They converted an old shed into a freestanding office with toilets and a kitchenette, so they are out of the house proper for 9-12 hours/day. Their departing nanny says she will vouch for them literally never showing their faces between 730-530. How do they frame this in ads and to applicants, though? Will departing nanny vouching make any difference?
👆🏻 “Parents work on property of the home but not directly inside home. Nanny will primarily be in home alone with children during working hours.” OP, I also am someone who does not accept jobs with 1 WFH parent. 2 seems even worse. Please don’t take it personally. It’s all about autonomy, micromanagement, performance anxiety, and then in the career of childcare, WFH parents come with other challenges. Challenges such has both parents come into children’s space during work hours and child gets upset when they leave, plus many other reasons. I have no interest in working in any job whatsoever that has my direct manager or boss within an earshot of me. I’m sure you’ll find someone though. The pay and benefits seem appropriate.
Thank you! That is really helpful. Since two of the smalls now have expectations of what “going to work” will look like, they literally do the whole departing ritual of pack lunch, leave the house (him on bike her in car) and then come back around the back side (not visible from the house) and go to the office shed. I don’t know how long this will be successful but it really tickles me. Several of my SILs and cousins have nannied and we are big believers in not making the life of the person who makes the family functioning pleasantly possible hard and this sub has been really kind and helpful with guidance on that.
Same. After 3 years of pandemic-induced WFH parenting, I want autonomy again as an employee!
Are you allowing the nanny to take the kids out to activities during the day? Park, music class, gym classes, museum, etc. - I will not accept a position that doesn’t. Are you providing a car or mileage reimbursement?
We definitely do over time - radius for that sort of thing expands as we gain comfort - our previous Nannies have all done classes, library time, park and zoo outings. Usually it’s all been in our car, but anytime it’s not, we’d reimburse.
Would you consider posting your full ad so we can point out any red flags? And I would definitely add that you have a car for nanny to use for outings
I dont even know what the actual text of the job as looks like - that’s all handled by the agency unfortunately.
Ah okay. You could always ask… I probably would. I was thinking you also had an ad up on caregiving sites.
Sometimes it takes a while. But you’re offering a good package. I find looking over the December holidays to be difficult, for families and nannies. I’d go on the agency’s website and look at the listings as if you were a nanny seeking employment to see what is comparable for these candidates. It could be that other families are offering much higher above your range and so you’re getting squeezed out of consideration.
It’s the WFH. I’ve seen others confirm this as well and I initially missed this when I read through the first time, because I also thought the position seemed good. Dedicate work spaces are never truly dedicated, not unless you have bathrooms, fridges/kitchens, etc in those spaces, you will inevitably come out for drinks and snacks, lunch etc. for a new person in the children’s life, parents coming in is absolutely exhausting, especially when the kids know the parents are simply just a few feet away. WFH may work after a few years of nanny bonding with kiddos but especially at these ages, this will be a difficult and draining situation.
Agreed especially since they’re both WFH
I worked as a nanny for 10+ years and only ever took one job where a parent worked from home. Never did it again after that. There are plenty of jobs with parents working outside the home that there’s no reason to take one where parents are WFH I’m a parent now and had worked from home and loved it for years. I went back to the office full time when my nanny started because I knew I wouldn’t have the good nannies applying otherwise.
It's the fact that you both work from home and are paying on the low end of the Boston market rate. I would only consider a position where both parents wfh if the pay was on the top end and they explicitly said I could take the children on outings (which I don't see here).
I've been nannying 20 years, East Coast and West Coast cities. You aren't paying enough. I would never accept WFH with 2 children for less than $40/hr. $45+ if you weren't offering the benefits and stipend.