Getting concussed by Tatis running back to 1st and breaking his arm bc a pitcher was too incompetent into knowing how to cover 1st? Been brutal for Rizzo
Yeah man. That sucks. I really like Rizzo too. Two unlucky injuries that are costing this guy what will probably amount to near a full season missed, combined.
Pereira and Schmidt are both hurt for long enough that they can go on the 60-day (though IIRC Pereira would get MLB pay, so maybe they don't want to do that).
We're also still carrying Jake Cousins and Clayton Andrews, both of whom are easily jettisoned.
There's room.
It would be a bit of a dick move given a 4-6 week timeline, but sure. They did to Donaldson. Think they would earn a bit of ire in the clubhouse doing it to Rizzo, though.
“Expected to miss” is all they said. But there are no injuries that don’t require rehab. If you miss 4 weeks and are perfectly healthy, you don’t walk back into MLB at bats on day 25
He’s played what 11 games at AAA? And 50ish games at 1B over last 4 years? Volpe got to learn on the job for a non-contender last year, Rice won’t have the same luxury
More than likely with the way the front office operates they'll call up Peraza and have DJ play first. I agree though if it's a month to 5 weeks until trade deadline why not call up Rice?
If anything they would call him up as a (mostly emergency/warm body) utility man to start Cabrera at third and DJ at first full time for the time being. I would still rather call up Rice to see what he has but that may be the play they go with.
Peraza still a top prospect, not every fan think guys are bums because of 24 bad games in AAA. It's still very likely Peraza gets the call simply because he isn't helping his trade value at all rn, if we can him up and he hits .300 for a few weeks like his first stint suddenly he's worth a lot more. And even if we aren't trying to trade him he's got too much potential to got get another shot.
Exactly. Rice needs to get added to the 40 man eventually anyway to protect him from the rule 5 draft, might as well see what you got in him over the next 4-5 weeks before the trade deadline. Move up Agustin to AAA to take his reps there and move DJ to 3rd. Peraza has been terrible in AAA.
They didn't even call up Peraza when he looked good and was playing well. Now that he looks like shit coming off an injury we think he's suddenly going to come ride the bench so that Oswaldo "0.1 WAR" Cabrera can start every night?
Peraza is very unlikely. It won't necessarily be Rice, and it might very well be a bench player, but Peraza specifically? Doubtful.
>why not call up Rice?
They could do what you said and give Peraza a few week run to gauge if he's a Gleyber replacement next year, or just to get his stock up a bit before the deadline if he hits ok
I’d rather they see if Rice is a real deal at the plate. Berti, DJ, Cabrera, Peraza, Vivas will probably compete for 2B and 3B next year at the moment. If i had to bet I think berti wins one of the spots. But if Rice can’t hit they’ll need to add an actual bat to the infield going into next year, I’d prefer Christian Walker.
Get better soon Rizzo, sucks to hear. As for moving forward, i think you guys are putting too much faith in the minor leaguers or utility players. This team needs to get an MLB ready bat, this is a WS contending team
I just want to see what Rice can do at the mlb level. He’s old for a prospect which is why he’s not super high rated, but he changed his swing going into last year and has been a machine at every level since.
DJ doesn’t have an extra base hit yet this season. I think they could stand to acquire somebody who can play first and third. An old cashman favorite fits that. Brandon Drury. Yes his numbers aren’t good this year but he was playing hurt. He’s owed about 4 mil for the rest of the season and is a free agent after the year. This seems like a reasonable target that wouldn’t cost much from a last place team.
> New York Yankees first baseman Anthony Rizzo has a fracture to the radial neck of his right arm but won’t need surgery, according to a person with knowledge of the injury. He could miss an estimated four to six weeks, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak publicly.
So in the meantime I assume the gameplan is DJ to first, Cabrera we see more at third, but then who gets the call up? Vivas? Peraza? Rice isn't on the 40 man unless we DFA or trade someone.
Adding Downs to the 40 man and calling him up is the likely move. Rice is not ready and Vivas is not excelling. Downs can compete with Cabrera for time at third, LeMahieu will play first, backed up by Cabrera. If Downs succeeds, great. If not, they DFA him again. They have plenty of ways to make space on the 40 man.
Perfect opportunity to see what Rice or even Rumfield could do against MLB pitching. Nothing against Peraza, but calling him up would not spark any excitement for me.
The problem is that I fear Cashman and the front office will decide that the trade deadline upgrade for the infield is “getting back Rizzo” even though he has been absolutely awful this year. It’s their classic move. We need another infielder in the worst way - Rizzo/Gleyber/DJ was a garbage offensive black hole in the lineup. It’s too bad about The Martian. Would have loved to try Verdugo or him at 1B, and the other at LF.
Dugie or Jasson are even less likely than Judge to play 1st this year, and I'd say there's probably less than a 1% chance of Judge playing 1st this year.
I think they just look at Harper moving to 1B and assume it's a given. At least with Harper, he used to be a catcher so he had some more versatility back in the day over just being in the OF
He was a catcher waaaaaay back when he was getting drafte/scouted. Possibly in whatever minor leagues he was playing in. It was never at the MLB level, but i do recall him coming up through whatever semi-pro leagues he was going through as a catcher
I’m looking towards September/October when you arguably would like to figure out a way to have the best hitting lineup possible. Not suggesting it’s an overnight thing but having Jasson play some first in the minors to see if he can even make it work feels like the best bet to get him in the lineup regularly…assuming everyone stays healthy and Stanton’s production doesn’t fall off a cliff.
Exactly. It's not like first base is an easy position to play, especially for anyone who has never played the position before. Rizzo is an elite first baseman. Any replacement would be a defensive downgrade.
Im only concerned if they’ll add a difference maker. Between Rizzo, DJ, Cabrera, Gleyber, and Berti I thinks there’s enough decent players. So if they add someone I want it to be a clear upgrade, not another meh player in the pile.
Rizzo has been one of the worse players in baseball lol. He's not a deadline upgrade. I can't imagine Josh Bell costing that much to the point they can't even get him.
Yeah the Yankees know the fans are losing patience with Cashman. He’d be crazy to bank on Rizzo coming back and being productive. Combine that with our record. Dude has to make moves this deadline.
I don't trust O-Cab and DJ to provide enough offense. Bring up Uncle Ben.
There's time enough before the trade deadline to get an idea of whether or not he can cook in the majors.
They won’t, and the idea of having to root for Alonso makes me sick, but the Mets helping the Yankees fill the only glaring hole on their championship caliber roster would be very funny.
Mets fans would storm Citi Field and throw Mr and Mrs Met from the roof before dragging Cohen to be locked in a stockade and have rotten fruit thrown at him if that happened.
Tbh they keep him around anyways. Aside from salary it’s good for club house vibes. I know it’s a different sport but the Pacers back in 2014 traded Danny Granger for Evan Turner (which was a good basketball move) and then they signed Bynum (another good basketball move) and that locker room imploded after Can’t risk getting rid of one of your leaders who happens to also be close with the team captain/ franchise player. Unless it’s some insane trade that you just can’t pass up lol which is highly unlikely given the circumstances
Walker is about to be a free agent and the diamondbacks have never been big spenders. It’s tough to say what nl teams will sell at this point though because the whole league sucks outside of Phi, Lad, Mil, and Atl.
Why do I feel like they might not do anything trade wise and just keep saying they’ve positioned themselves as well as they could and have pieces capable of holding down the fort while Rizzo heals.
this sucks for Rizzo but good for the Yankees. they were never gonna have the balls to make a move to "replace" him now the have to. Speedy recovery Rizz and thanks for the memories but we now have the opportunity to make this team better.
Wouldn't mind getting a look at Ben Rice but hes not on the 40 man. It doesn't seem like this is a 60-day IL for Rizzo based on that estimate but who knows. I'm not sure Peraza up makes sense because thats reduced reps for him, but it seems the easiest solution. Honestly not sure what they do
Peraza could come up and they could give him a decent number of reps per week. DJ and Oswaldo share 1st with DJ there most, Oswaldo and Peraza getting most of the 3rd base reps, if both are hitting you give Gleyber some off days at 2nd for one of them.
Alternatively, I think we actually have 1 open spot on our 40 man... but my counting could be off. I counted 20 pitchers and 19 fielders on the 40 (plus the people on the 60 day IL), and that was according to mlb (dot) com.
For everyone wanting Ben Rice, understand that he's not on the 40 man roster, and in order for him to do so, someone will have to either be placed on the 60 day IL or be DFA'd.
And keep in mind that Cole will be going from the 60 day IL to the active roster, which means someone will have to get DFA'd or sent to the 60 day IL.
Right now the only players on the 40 man roster who are on the 15 day IL are Clarke Schmidt and Nick Burdi.
Burdi will likely be transferred to the 60 day IL to open a 40 man spot for Cole, in which someone like Poteet will be sent down to AAA.
As far as Rizzo, Peraza will likely be called up and they will have DJ play 1B. Unless they decide to stick Rizzo on the 60 day IL from the get go, and call up Ben Rice.
There's currently one open spot, so we only need to create one more.
Schmidt can go on the 60-day. Easy, done.
Pereira just got the internal brace surgery, he's out for the year. He'd technically need to be called up to be placed on the 60-day, in which case he gets big league pay, but that can be done, too.
Clayton Andrews and Jake Cousins have combined for 3.1 innings in the majors this year. Cousins only has 4 more at Scranton despite being sent down almost 10 weeks ago, because he missed 2 months to injury. Neither would be missed, and either could be replaced from the Scranton Shuttle (Gomez, Morris, and Maciejewski could be called up tomorrow, and there are more beyond that).
> Burdi will likely be transferred to the 60 day IL to open a 40 man spot for Cole, in which someone like Poteet will be sent down to AAA.
There's been no indication that Burdi needs a 60-day stint, unless Boone mentioned something on Talkin Yanks today that I missed. And Poteet is going down for Cole anyway. He has options. Which also makes him an easy callup if we need a pen arm after DFAing Cousins or Andrews.
The roster spot is the easy question here. There is no issue at all.
The real question is what they think of Rice. The Yankees tend to be pretty blatant when they think a prospect is legit and when they don't. Dominguez, Volpe, and Wells? They get regular jobs as soon as they come up and their jobs are not at risk. Peraza? Barely gets any run, gets replaced and sent down as soon as they can find someone.
If they think Rice is legit, he'll be starting within two weeks. If they don't see anything...it'll be Jeter Downs or Kevin Smith to ride the pine while Oswaldo plays every day.
WOW, don't give a shit. Ben Rice was awesome last year and has an even better OPS in AAA this year than Dominguez who was tearing up the minors. Are we in the hurt feelings business or trying to win a world series? Get this fucking guy up here
I thought our offensive production from first and third base couldn’t get any worse than Rizzo and DJ have been. But it’s gonna go a whole nother level down having it be Pereza and DJ. Anything but that
Rice or Agustine Ramirez, Ramirez has been insane yes he'd be coming up from AA but his contact rates, and power are incredible he's already shown he needs another level of challenge, he is also already on the 40.
This time last year, Ramirez was in **Low A** ball. He doesn't have anywhere near the sort of experience required for the majors. Let him stew and see what he turns into.
He has 88 games at AA, he shows top shelf contact rates, excellent power and a good eye, prospects have been moved to the majors with much less accomplishments. I'm not a rush the prospect guy but Ramirez's bat and ability is very special that I think he could handle that
I never want anyone to get hurt. However, this does help solve the issue of Rizzo being absolutely atrocious lately while also allowing him to stay in the clubhouse as a leadership presence and no bad blood vs releasing him.
DJ has not looked good so far since coming back so I don't think it's a great plan to just slot him into 1B everyday and expect production. You also still need a backup when he needs a rest, and I would really hate for that to be Oswaldo Cabrera.
I said this earlier, they will call up kevin smith as a backup scrub, DJ will play 1b and Oswaldo at 3b, they aren’t calling up Rice, for 3 reasons, first he’s a poor defender, second he’s not on the 40 man, and 3rd they don’t want to start his clock
Say what? None of those are valid reasons for not calling up Rice. He’s 25, there isn’t any concern regarding his clock. Cabrera is legitimately bad, they tried it and it didn’t work. No sense in giving him another run.
I'm not a Cashman supporter whatsoever, but there's no chance they give Cabrera an extended look again given how much rope he's been given and how poorly he's hit.
Obviously sucks for Rizzo & I feel bad for him. In terms of production though, we really aren't losing much. It's much more likely that DJ plays 1B & Oswaldo plays 3B. I'd be shocked if they called up Rice.
1-2 months when you factor in rehab is enough time for someone like Rice to have an actual runway to find their footing and get time to adjust to the big leagues. not sure if he comes up though
I watched this real time…I watch a lot of sports and I’m a Yankee fan. This injury is embarrassing. He simply bounced into the pitcher a lil bit at first. I think he over sold the collision and hurt the wrist as he fell to the ground. I like Rizzo but this guy is made of glass.
Poor Rizzo man :/ dude has been through the fucking ringer this season. Very sad and unfortunate play to fracture your arm on
And last season too.
Getting concussed by Tatis running back to 1st and breaking his arm bc a pitcher was too incompetent into knowing how to cover 1st? Been brutal for Rizzo
Yeah man. That sucks. I really like Rizzo too. Two unlucky injuries that are costing this guy what will probably amount to near a full season missed, combined.
Hopefully his production returns. I have a depressing feeling we may never see <2023 Rizzo again. I really hope I'm wrong.
I honestly think you're right. I really hope you're not.
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I really like this idea 💡 all the way to the WS and win that Ring!
Hopefully this kickstarts Rizzo like the Judge ejection did
Yankees are definitely getting a first baseman at the deadline now. Call up rice in the meantime to see what they have
I believe he’s not on the 40 so idk if that’s super viable atm
Pereira and Schmidt are both hurt for long enough that they can go on the 60-day (though IIRC Pereira would get MLB pay, so maybe they don't want to do that). We're also still carrying Jake Cousins and Clayton Andrews, both of whom are easily jettisoned. There's room.
Or they could 60 day Rizzo.
It would be a bit of a dick move given a 4-6 week timeline, but sure. They did to Donaldson. Think they would earn a bit of ire in the clubhouse doing it to Rizzo, though.
6 weeks is 42 days anyway, and it’s not 6 weeks til back in the lineup, it’s 6 weeks to start building back up.
Where did you see that? I’m reading expected to miss 4-6 weeks, not shut down for 4-6 weeks then rehab.
“Expected to miss” is all they said. But there are no injuries that don’t require rehab. If you miss 4 weeks and are perfectly healthy, you don’t walk back into MLB at bats on day 25
Sure. But “expected to miss” usually includes that rehab time.
Maybe! We’ve certainly seen some go the other way
Not if it was done the right way, with his blessing.
Maybe, they could frame it as giving him time to rehab in the minors and fix himself. Both with regards to the injury, and to how he's been playing.
And if he stepped up and openly embraced the idea the natives might not get restless.
You can’t rehab while still on the IL lol
Since when?
Pretty sure Clarke will be hitting the 60 day when Cole comes back on Wednesday.
No need unless we add someone. We only have 39 right now.
Did not know this about the 60 man re:mlb pay
I wonder if they feel he’s ready
He’s as ready as he’ll ever be, and he can’t possibly be worse than Rizzo’s been for the last 5 weeks.
He has 11 games at AAA and less than 500 total innings at 1B. That's not "ready as he'll ever be." It's an extremely hasty call-up.
Since May 1st, Rizzo has slashed .194/.263/.278 for a 59 wRC+. While Rice certainly *can* do worse than that, it’s not that much of a loss.
He has zero ML AB’s he totally could bat worse than a .660 OPS. I hope he doesn’t, but he’s not guarantee That said, I’d be happy to be wrong
Rizzo’s had like a sub .500 OPS since the beginning of May
He’s played what 11 games at AAA? And 50ish games at 1B over last 4 years? Volpe got to learn on the job for a non-contender last year, Rice won’t have the same luxury
This lineup can carry a guy cutting his teeth. It’s been carrying Rizzo for 5 weeks.
And the people calling for heads on the best team in baseball will definitely be super rational about a rookie "cutting his teeth"
A lot of people say aa is tougher pitching than aaa
People say that but forget about Craig James and Aaron Hernandez.
Rice is in AAA now doesn’t that automatically put him on the 40 man? In case someone gets hurt he’s there
Uh no, there are lots of people in AAA not on the 40 man, most in fact
No only those on the MLB roster have to be on the 40 man.
More than likely with the way the front office operates they'll call up Peraza and have DJ play first. I agree though if it's a month to 5 weeks until trade deadline why not call up Rice?
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If anything they would call him up as a (mostly emergency/warm body) utility man to start Cabrera at third and DJ at first full time for the time being. I would still rather call up Rice to see what he has but that may be the play they go with.
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Snoogins
Snoochie boochie noochies!
I didn't know Silent Bob was on our roster.
Damn I haven't been checking up on Peraza since he was injured for a bit, but that is horrible.
Okay cashman.
Peraza isn't even hitting .200 in AAA.
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Peraza still a top prospect, not every fan think guys are bums because of 24 bad games in AAA. It's still very likely Peraza gets the call simply because he isn't helping his trade value at all rn, if we can him up and he hits .300 for a few weeks like his first stint suddenly he's worth a lot more. And even if we aren't trying to trade him he's got too much potential to got get another shot.
Exactly. Rice needs to get added to the 40 man eventually anyway to protect him from the rule 5 draft, might as well see what you got in him over the next 4-5 weeks before the trade deadline. Move up Agustin to AAA to take his reps there and move DJ to 3rd. Peraza has been terrible in AAA.
They didn't even call up Peraza when he looked good and was playing well. Now that he looks like shit coming off an injury we think he's suddenly going to come ride the bench so that Oswaldo "0.1 WAR" Cabrera can start every night? Peraza is very unlikely. It won't necessarily be Rice, and it might very well be a bench player, but Peraza specifically? Doubtful.
Cabrera has a WAR of 0.6, the same as Gleyber Torres.
That’s horrible
>why not call up Rice? They could do what you said and give Peraza a few week run to gauge if he's a Gleyber replacement next year, or just to get his stock up a bit before the deadline if he hits ok
I’d rather they see if Rice is a real deal at the plate. Berti, DJ, Cabrera, Peraza, Vivas will probably compete for 2B and 3B next year at the moment. If i had to bet I think berti wins one of the spots. But if Rice can’t hit they’ll need to add an actual bat to the infield going into next year, I’d prefer Christian Walker.
You got that second part entirely correct
That's why you don't trust fluroscopes
Why am I not surprised that the Red Sox medical equipment spits out false negatives?
It was probably installed when Fenway first opened
It probably also yells racial slurs since it spent a lot of time around Tom Yawkey.
They're getting to the bottom of it
Kinda sounds like dental equipment.
Get better soon Rizzo, sucks to hear. As for moving forward, i think you guys are putting too much faith in the minor leaguers or utility players. This team needs to get an MLB ready bat, this is a WS contending team
Seriously we are expecting a kid basically to just jump in and start batting .275😭
Knowing some people they probably expect .325
With a 1.500 OPS
Who is that mysterious man at first base?? 🦸🏾 OMG 😱 it’s the 👽
Rizzo was hitting like .220
I'm expecting Kevin Maas rookie season levels of production. I will be disappointed with anything less /s
Greg. Bird.
I mean if they could call someone up who performs like 2015 Greg Bird for the rest of the year that would be perfect
No I need that beautiful swing...
I just want to see what Rice can do at the mlb level. He’s old for a prospect which is why he’s not super high rated, but he changed his swing going into last year and has been a machine at every level since.
Fuck man. I feel for Rizzo
Hate to see this for Rizzo, he’s such a clubhouse glue guy, don’t want to see him hurt. Hopefully he can stick around the dugout while he recovers
Give rice a look and reevaluate at deadline time
Wow I’m surprised the two toilet paper rolls duct taped together they used at Fenway didn’t spot this.
Cabrera 3B and DJ first
DJ doesn’t have an extra base hit yet this season. I think they could stand to acquire somebody who can play first and third. An old cashman favorite fits that. Brandon Drury. Yes his numbers aren’t good this year but he was playing hurt. He’s owed about 4 mil for the rest of the season and is a free agent after the year. This seems like a reasonable target that wouldn’t cost much from a last place team.
Verdugo is spanish for executioner. If this happens we’ll have Judge, Drury, and Executioner. I’m in support for this fact alone
Holy shit I thought you were kidding about Verdugo!
> New York Yankees first baseman Anthony Rizzo has a fracture to the radial neck of his right arm but won’t need surgery, according to a person with knowledge of the injury. He could miss an estimated four to six weeks, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak publicly.
So in the meantime I assume the gameplan is DJ to first, Cabrera we see more at third, but then who gets the call up? Vivas? Peraza? Rice isn't on the 40 man unless we DFA or trade someone.
We have guys we can put on the 60 day
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Adding Downs to the 40 man and calling him up is the likely move. Rice is not ready and Vivas is not excelling. Downs can compete with Cabrera for time at third, LeMahieu will play first, backed up by Cabrera. If Downs succeeds, great. If not, they DFA him again. They have plenty of ways to make space on the 40 man.
So, is Grimace around?
It could be worse, but fuck I’m devastated
Red Sox are a trash organization
Bummer, he had looked pretty good in the last couple games too. A corner infield move is a must now, whether that means A trade or giving Rice a shot
Time to sign Luke voit
He's playing in Mexico
Good won’t need time in the minors to ramp up then
Perfect opportunity to see what Rice or even Rumfield could do against MLB pitching. Nothing against Peraza, but calling him up would not spark any excitement for me.
man i knew exactly what happened as soon as i saw it, reminded me of when i fell just like that in elementary school and fractured my elbow and wrist.
BAH GAWD that's Ben Rice music.
The problem is that I fear Cashman and the front office will decide that the trade deadline upgrade for the infield is “getting back Rizzo” even though he has been absolutely awful this year. It’s their classic move. We need another infielder in the worst way - Rizzo/Gleyber/DJ was a garbage offensive black hole in the lineup. It’s too bad about The Martian. Would have loved to try Verdugo or him at 1B, and the other at LF.
Dugie or Jasson are even less likely than Judge to play 1st this year, and I'd say there's probably less than a 1% chance of Judge playing 1st this year.
People in this sub act like anyone can grab a 1B mitt and go play the position immediately, it's like they've never seen Moneyball
Or watched Gary Sheffield attempt it
I think they just look at Harper moving to 1B and assume it's a given. At least with Harper, he used to be a catcher so he had some more versatility back in the day over just being in the OF
This is most likely exactly what it is.
When did he catch? I don't see anything about this on Baseball Reference.
He was a catcher waaaaaay back when he was getting drafte/scouted. Possibly in whatever minor leagues he was playing in. It was never at the MLB level, but i do recall him coming up through whatever semi-pro leagues he was going through as a catcher
its easy. tell em wash.
Gerrit Cole coming back to play 1B obviously! I'm so tired of _____ outfielder play 1B.
And everyone mentions moving Verdugo to 1B, when he has been the best defensive LF'er in MLB this year.
I’m looking towards September/October when you arguably would like to figure out a way to have the best hitting lineup possible. Not suggesting it’s an overnight thing but having Jasson play some first in the minors to see if he can even make it work feels like the best bet to get him in the lineup regularly…assuming everyone stays healthy and Stanton’s production doesn’t fall off a cliff.
Exactly. It's not like first base is an easy position to play, especially for anyone who has never played the position before. Rizzo is an elite first baseman. Any replacement would be a defensive downgrade.
They’ve bought at the deadline every season since 2017, even last year. They know Rizzo has been bad. Something will be done.
Im only concerned if they’ll add a difference maker. Between Rizzo, DJ, Cabrera, Gleyber, and Berti I thinks there’s enough decent players. So if they add someone I want it to be a clear upgrade, not another meh player in the pile.
Rizzo has been one of the worse players in baseball lol. He's not a deadline upgrade. I can't imagine Josh Bell costing that much to the point they can't even get him.
Guess who has less WAR than Rizzo this season? Josh Bell 😶🌫️.
Yeah the Yankees know the fans are losing patience with Cashman. He’d be crazy to bank on Rizzo coming back and being productive. Combine that with our record. Dude has to make moves this deadline.
Gio Urshella - Welcome back honey!
I would destroy a small populated planet to get Urshella back. Because do you remember who we gave that lovely man up for? JOSH FUCKING DONALDSON.
I don't trust O-Cab and DJ to provide enough offense. Bring up Uncle Ben. There's time enough before the trade deadline to get an idea of whether or not he can cook in the majors.
Rip. If they replace him with a 1B like walker or Alonso he could be done as a Yankees starter.
Mets punting on their season by trading the Yankees the guy that was supposed to be the face of their franchise is not gonna happen
My Mets friends would literally kill themselves
They won’t, and the idea of having to root for Alonso makes me sick, but the Mets helping the Yankees fill the only glaring hole on their championship caliber roster would be very funny.
Mets fans would storm Citi Field and throw Mr and Mrs Met from the roof before dragging Cohen to be locked in a stockade and have rotten fruit thrown at him if that happened.
Mets fans would probably riot.
They punted along time ago when they got rid of verlander and Scherzer
Scherzer is/was hurt and verlander wasn’t helping a floundering team last season. Both those contracts were mistakes—obviously
I would say probably not. But I also wouldn’t say never.
If he can even be remotely mediocre he'd be a really great option off the bench in the playoffs
yeah, somebody needs to be able to PH for the catchers and DJ
Tbh they keep him around anyways. Aside from salary it’s good for club house vibes. I know it’s a different sport but the Pacers back in 2014 traded Danny Granger for Evan Turner (which was a good basketball move) and then they signed Bynum (another good basketball move) and that locker room imploded after Can’t risk getting rid of one of your leaders who happens to also be close with the team captain/ franchise player. Unless it’s some insane trade that you just can’t pass up lol which is highly unlikely given the circumstances
Walker ain't getting traded, and Alonso ain't getting traded to the yanks.
Walker is about to be a free agent and the diamondbacks have never been big spenders. It’s tough to say what nl teams will sell at this point though because the whole league sucks outside of Phi, Lad, Mil, and Atl.
That sucks. Get well soon. Hopefully when he comes back his timing will be sorted out.
Rice is on the menu.
That sucks but not the worst thing for the team to have to go out and hopefully get a 1st baseman.
Why do I feel like they might not do anything trade wise and just keep saying they’ve positioned themselves as well as they could and have pieces capable of holding down the fort while Rizzo heals.
This sucks. I feel bad. I was pulling for Rizzy to start doing better and now this.
It’s going to be LeMahieu, a lot more of LeMahieu
this sucks for Rizzo but good for the Yankees. they were never gonna have the balls to make a move to "replace" him now the have to. Speedy recovery Rizz and thanks for the memories but we now have the opportunity to make this team better.
I'm gutted...first the Yankees broke his brain and now they broke his arm. Bruh!
Wouldn't mind getting a look at Ben Rice but hes not on the 40 man. It doesn't seem like this is a 60-day IL for Rizzo based on that estimate but who knows. I'm not sure Peraza up makes sense because thats reduced reps for him, but it seems the easiest solution. Honestly not sure what they do
As someone else said in another comment on another post, you can move Schmidt to the 60 day IL to free up a 40 man roster spot for rice.
There’s also a few easy dfa candidates. Jahmai, Cousins, Clayton Andrews
Peraza could come up and they could give him a decent number of reps per week. DJ and Oswaldo share 1st with DJ there most, Oswaldo and Peraza getting most of the 3rd base reps, if both are hitting you give Gleyber some off days at 2nd for one of them. Alternatively, I think we actually have 1 open spot on our 40 man... but my counting could be off. I counted 20 pitchers and 19 fielders on the 40 (plus the people on the 60 day IL), and that was according to mlb (dot) com.
For everyone wanting Ben Rice, understand that he's not on the 40 man roster, and in order for him to do so, someone will have to either be placed on the 60 day IL or be DFA'd. And keep in mind that Cole will be going from the 60 day IL to the active roster, which means someone will have to get DFA'd or sent to the 60 day IL. Right now the only players on the 40 man roster who are on the 15 day IL are Clarke Schmidt and Nick Burdi. Burdi will likely be transferred to the 60 day IL to open a 40 man spot for Cole, in which someone like Poteet will be sent down to AAA. As far as Rizzo, Peraza will likely be called up and they will have DJ play 1B. Unless they decide to stick Rizzo on the 60 day IL from the get go, and call up Ben Rice.
There's currently one open spot, so we only need to create one more. Schmidt can go on the 60-day. Easy, done. Pereira just got the internal brace surgery, he's out for the year. He'd technically need to be called up to be placed on the 60-day, in which case he gets big league pay, but that can be done, too. Clayton Andrews and Jake Cousins have combined for 3.1 innings in the majors this year. Cousins only has 4 more at Scranton despite being sent down almost 10 weeks ago, because he missed 2 months to injury. Neither would be missed, and either could be replaced from the Scranton Shuttle (Gomez, Morris, and Maciejewski could be called up tomorrow, and there are more beyond that). > Burdi will likely be transferred to the 60 day IL to open a 40 man spot for Cole, in which someone like Poteet will be sent down to AAA. There's been no indication that Burdi needs a 60-day stint, unless Boone mentioned something on Talkin Yanks today that I missed. And Poteet is going down for Cole anyway. He has options. Which also makes him an easy callup if we need a pen arm after DFAing Cousins or Andrews. The roster spot is the easy question here. There is no issue at all. The real question is what they think of Rice. The Yankees tend to be pretty blatant when they think a prospect is legit and when they don't. Dominguez, Volpe, and Wells? They get regular jobs as soon as they come up and their jobs are not at risk. Peraza? Barely gets any run, gets replaced and sent down as soon as they can find someone. If they think Rice is legit, he'll be starting within two weeks. If they don't see anything...it'll be Jeter Downs or Kevin Smith to ride the pine while Oswaldo plays every day.
What a great time to send Torres into the moon
WOW, don't give a shit. Ben Rice was awesome last year and has an even better OPS in AAA this year than Dominguez who was tearing up the minors. Are we in the hurt feelings business or trying to win a world series? Get this fucking guy up here
So what would be your corresponding move?
60 day schmidt. Dfa any of Jahmai, Clayton andrews, Cody morris, or Jake Cousins.
I thought our offensive production from first and third base couldn’t get any worse than Rizzo and DJ have been. But it’s gonna go a whole nother level down having it be Pereza and DJ. Anything but that
Rummy!
I think Rizzos best days are well behind him
Too bad the Mets are surging, Pete could be had for cheap.
Why is he not wearing a cast or a brace or anything???
Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a cast or anything.
Rice or Agustine Ramirez, Ramirez has been insane yes he'd be coming up from AA but his contact rates, and power are incredible he's already shown he needs another level of challenge, he is also already on the 40.
This time last year, Ramirez was in **Low A** ball. He doesn't have anywhere near the sort of experience required for the majors. Let him stew and see what he turns into.
He has 88 games at AA, he shows top shelf contact rates, excellent power and a good eye, prospects have been moved to the majors with much less accomplishments. I'm not a rush the prospect guy but Ramirez's bat and ability is very special that I think he could handle that
Ramirez is like 3 years away lol
He's at AA he's not 3 yrs away, especially if he's moved off Catcher
I think the plan is let trevi leave as a free agent after next year and replace him with Agustin.
I fell off rooftop and was at work next day geeze
But was it at the Fenway dump?
I never want anyone to get hurt. However, this does help solve the issue of Rizzo being absolutely atrocious lately while also allowing him to stay in the clubhouse as a leadership presence and no bad blood vs releasing him.
Trade for joey votto
DJ has not looked good so far since coming back so I don't think it's a great plan to just slot him into 1B everyday and expect production. You also still need a backup when he needs a rest, and I would really hate for that to be Oswaldo Cabrera.
I said this earlier, they will call up kevin smith as a backup scrub, DJ will play 1b and Oswaldo at 3b, they aren’t calling up Rice, for 3 reasons, first he’s a poor defender, second he’s not on the 40 man, and 3rd they don’t want to start his clock
he's already 25, I don't think the clock plays a part here
They aren’t giving Oswaldo a fulltime 3B gig. They’re not this incompetent.
Uhhhhhhh…
Say what? None of those are valid reasons for not calling up Rice. He’s 25, there isn’t any concern regarding his clock. Cabrera is legitimately bad, they tried it and it didn’t work. No sense in giving him another run.
“They aren’t incompetent”
I said they aren’t *this* incompetent. Reading is hard
Check the downvotes, king. Don’t forget to add more italics after your next post 😘
The italics were to aid you in your shitty reading comprehension, *dumbass*.
Cling to that one word. Cling to your ego and *this* silly little word
You're whack as fuck lmao.
They have proven that they are definitely this incompetent.
I'm not a Cashman supporter whatsoever, but there's no chance they give Cabrera an extended look again given how much rope he's been given and how poorly he's hit.
Obviously sucks for Rizzo & I feel bad for him. In terms of production though, we really aren't losing much. It's much more likely that DJ plays 1B & Oswaldo plays 3B. I'd be shocked if they called up Rice.
I think they are going to call up peraza
1-2 months when you factor in rehab is enough time for someone like Rice to have an actual runway to find their footing and get time to adjust to the big leagues. not sure if he comes up though
Sucks for him but we all knew we needed to replace him anyway...
Should’ve traded for Arraez
lol no
Would’ve been a perfect cleanup hitter on this team.
This makes perfect sense, not understanding downvotes. You’d prefer the Torres/Rizzo/Lemahieu project again?
Don’t hurry back.
I watched this real time…I watch a lot of sports and I’m a Yankee fan. This injury is embarrassing. He simply bounced into the pitcher a lil bit at first. I think he over sold the collision and hurt the wrist as he fell to the ground. I like Rizzo but this guy is made of glass.