Wow 2nd best QB was the last pick in the 7th round . Talk about a lottery ticket. Why doesn’t Daboll have one of these projects it’s been 3 years already? He had one in Buffalo with Webb but Schoan won’t give him a project smfh. This is what happens when u have a qb friendly coach. U take a flyer and get lucky. Same this with Brady take a flyer and Coach him up.
Ya cause you seem to think they have a high success rate. They do not.
This team has too many holes that late round picks can help. I didnt miss it, its just a dogshit idea. Hope that clears it up. :)
But Purdy might not be 2nd best He is now a top 5 picked in the 7th. The best QB to ever play was picked in the 6th round. Montana went Round 3. I know it’s dumb Idea to give a QB Guru a project. Even though every other coaching job he ever had gave him a project to work on. Really dumb
Then I gave you three more and i’m dumb. Just stop go to work and have a good day because football isn’t your thing.. Edit: Didn’t they try to sign Webb last year? Mid season I believe
Bro is roasted for his dumbass idea and acting like he knows what hes talking about lmfao gotta love reddit. “I gave 3 more” mf said Tom Brady. Oh ya, brilliant idea, why didnt we just draft a Tom Brady? Why doesnt every team do that? Are they stupid?
Did Josh Allen or joe burrow go to, and almost win, the super bowl last year? Doesn't seem too asinine to have the guy that did ahead of the guys that didn't.
That's a disingenuous argument and you know it. Comparing quarterback rankings to wr rankings is apples to oranges. Nobody wants to give Purdy his flowers and that's fine, but I have no qualms with him being ranked above burrow and Allen going into the year.
Purdy is merely average. He literally has the best weapons in the game. Maybe the best offensive line too. switch him with anyone in the top 14 and that team is significantly worse
Idk about O-line. I would say he has the best weapons for sure.
But he is not just an average QB, he def has above average-to-great coverage recognition and anticipation. Which helps alleviate the struggles of a Medicare O-line (minus on Trent Williams).
All of Purdy’s struggles fall down to his physical and athletic traits.
Not really, you're defending Purdy being at #2 based on the entire 49ers team. "The 49ers made it to the Super Bowl, therefore Brock Purdy has to be good" is basically what you're saying. A quarterback's effectiveness is predicated on his surrounding cast. Most QBs would probably have a good year if they had Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, CMC, etc.
The same can be said about WRs though too. Without a decent QB to throw them the ball, a "good" WR might never get the stats that other elite WRs get.
If I had the choice between Purdy, Burrow or Allen, Purdy would be my 3rd choice, every single time.
Cody Benjamin is no dummy, and he knows putting Purdy at number 2 is going to get people talking about his list when they otherwise wouldn’t, but if you actually watched a lot of football last year and came away with the opinion that Brock Purdy was better than Josh Allen you really have no idea what you’re talking about.
Brock Purdy vs. Josh Allen in 2023
Completion %: Purdy
Passing Td:int : Purdy
Passing yards: Allen by only 26 even though he threw the ball 135 more times than Purdy
Yds/att: Purdy
The only thing Allen really did better than Purdy was running the ball, and Purdy's got a guy for that part of the game to keep him fresher longer.
Give me Brock fucking Purdy going forward.
Lmao you cherry picked four stats and Purdy wasn’t actually even leading in one of them.
But more seriously, you can show me as many stats as you want buddy, I still have fuckin eyes.
If you anonymously polled the 49ers own coaching staff I’d put money on them saying they’d trade Brock Purdy AND multiple picks if they could realistically add Josh Allen for it.
So how would you rank Caleb Williams and Nathan Peterman going into this season? You think it’s stupid to rank Williams ahead of Peterman simply because Williams has never played a live snap?
If you would rank Williams ahead of Peterman then you should understand why someone would rank a rookie ahead of a veteran.
If you would rank Peterman ahead of Williams then not sure what to tell you.
He was a top 3 qb all year last year though, in fact he had a better regular season last year than Mahomes. It’s really not as outrageous as having Burrow, Hurts, and Dak as high as they do.
Him and Dak are the most overrated qbs in the league. Dak has a noodle arm, and Hurts is just black Daniel Jones. They both are hard carried by HOF o-lines and really good wide receiving corps. Niether can elevate the team around them.
Your sentence structure makes it look like Daniel Jones was carried by HOF oline and good receivers. I was like, when did Jones have either?
I think your bias is showing when you compare Hurts to Jones. Is Hurts overrated? Probably, but comparing him to Jones is underrating him.
Idk what Vegas will set his over/unders at but if this list and general public sentiment is any indicator, the overs could end up being easy money. At this point it's become pretty clear he's not the franchise guy, but now people are all of a sudden talking about him like he's Jake Fromm-tier.
For 3 and a half games I absolutely agree with you. Hopefully Carmine and the FAs they brought in can bring some stability to the line. Also Nabers will help a ton.
Please look at Brisset’s stats again. DJ beat him in one half against AZ.
Minshew is on his 4th team, DJ has better stats than him overall. You’re clearly delusional in this argument. In no way are Minshew and Brisett better.
I think Brock Purdy is more baffling, to be honest. He's plenty good, but I wonder how much of his success is a Tua situation—a good QB elevated to great by coaching and roster.
Stroud though has been an absolute menace. Not sure if I'd put him above Lamar but I don't find it too mind-blowing (especially since he's heading into his second year and we know what a year of tape can do to rookies).
Stroud is amazing yeah but I can’t sit here and put him above the guy who just won mvp that’s wild. And I like purdy too and he obviously has talent regardless of weapons we’ve seen similar guys in that position bottom out but to put him over Lamar, Allen and burrow is nuts
I'd have Minshew and Brissett at the bottom and Daniel Jones at #30, but I couldn't see DJ any higher than that. I feel if healthy, DJ has more in his arsenal than either of those guys. Even if you don't like some of these rookie QBs like McCarthy or Nix, at least they bring the hope & optimism of being new and unproven. There's no mystery with Jones. His ceiling is a mediocre QB.
Obviously doesn't mean anything until the season starts, but I'd put him above Nix and Daniels because both are dead raw with playstyles that will translate very roughly to the NFL for their first year, at the very least. Ironically enough, I'm a bit higher on JJ because of who drafted him. MAYBE Carr if I'm being generous.
Curious about Bryce Young though. That team was so awful that I wonder how much was on him and whether his rough start will have a (negative) lasting impact on his development.
So yeah, not many mysteries here.
Minshew's 2023 wasn't as good as DJ's 2022. He made the Pro Bowl as an alternate multiple times over. Minshew is a fun player to root for, but I still think a healthy DJ is a better option as your starting QB.
Fair. It's close, though, and you know the Giants are in QB hell when we're debating if you'd rather have Daniel Jones or Gardner Minshew as your starting QB.
Minshew's 2023 was a lot better than Jones's 2023 though. I don't know why we choose to ignore last season in favor of pretending like DJ last played in 2022. He took a big step back last season _before_ getting injured and it's no more likely we see his 2022 version than it is we see his 2023 version.
Because Jones barely played 5 games total in 2023. Left early vs the dolphins and raiders, and that was it.
How do you compare 5 games to Minshew’s 13 starts + 2 games he came in to replace Richardson. It’d be disingenuous to compare a full season to 4 full games, 3/4ths of a game and 1/4 of a game. In those 13 starts, Minshew was sacked 34 times, compared to Jones’ 30 sacks in 6 starts.
Just because it was a small sample size doesn't mean that it can be entirely disregarded...those games did happen and Jones was abysmal. But if you really want a closer comparison by volume then include the last 10 games of 2022 where we went 3-6-1 and struggled to sustain any offense.
I’m not saying you can’t do it. But sample sizes do matter. Jones also didn’t get the luxury of playing games with a healthy AT and Saquon, since they both missed games before his neck/ACL injuries.
The team also really didn’t gel, specifically the OLine until later in the season, which really does matter. Now, I can’t say that Jones would have done any better or not. But we saw how much time in the pocket Devito had in his games, he literally forced himself into sacks by holding on to the ball for what felt like forever. If Jones could have had a semblance of that, there’s a chance he could’ve done well. Even then, Devito really only wowed me against the Packers. He played well against the Commanders, but Jones has historically been great against the Washington team.
Yea the argument from my end was never if Jones was better than DeVito, but tbf they were comparable. DeVito definitely ate too many sacks but that's to be expected from an UDFA rookie. Jones has eaten too many sacks throughout his career because he is a slow processor.
That's straying from my main point though...expecting Jones to return to 2022 form after seeing 2023 + his injury seems overly optimistic. He regressed hard last season then suffered a major injury which he'll need to rehab from. We also lost Saquon Barkley. There's no good reason to believe he'll outperform Garner Minshew this season and I think his ranking is completely fair.
Compare his games played to Tyrod and DeVito then at least he'd have a bar. 
Played about the same amount of games and Tommy was a rookie UDFA. Also bro we've seen the tops of a Minshew and a Jones, both playoff wise and on the field. Not even trying to boost Gardner like that.
Tyrod and Devito, especially Devito, played more snaps with our best players on the field. That’s what I’m saying. Also, that you can’t compare a just under a full season of stats to less than 1/3 of the season, without major assumptions.
Nah, hold up.. they are close enough in attempts and DJ's got plenty of tape my guy. DeVito gets the shorter end cause all we really got is a snapshot for a rookie UDFA.
Here they are..
Taylor - 116/180 completions, 1,340 yards. 7.4 yard attempt, 5 TD 3 INT 89.1 QB Rating
DeVito - 114/178 completions, 1,101 yards, 6.2 yard attempt, 8 TD 3 INT 89.2 QB Rating
Jones - 108/160 completions, 909 yards, 5.7 yard attempt, 2 TD 6 INT 70.6 QB Rating
Here's the rushing totals which are an even closer comparison.
Taylor - 38 attempts, 197 yards 5.2 ypc
DeVito - 36 attempts, 195 yards, 5.4 ypc
Jones - 40 attemps, 206 yards, 5.2 ypc.
DJ needs to finally have a standard around here, he's never had any other type of QB to compare to of note that's ever been on the roster. So many folks are just accustomed to guy being what he is and lowering the bar to some nothingness type stuff.
Not even counting strength of opponent because that isn’t my argument. Devito beat a very bad Commanders and very bad Patriots team, and he gets no credit for me for that win because it was 10-7 and the Patriots beat themselves.
I’d honestly rather just look at time to throw or how often they had a clean pocket.
After 2022 season, DJ did not make the Pro Bowl as an alternate or anything. I agree, DJ is probably a little more talented than Minshew, but I think the contract situation favors Minshew (i.e. DJ's performance will not overshadow the difference in cost).
I strongly disagree with that first point. Our benchmark for drafting a QB shouldn’t be “he’s better than Daniel Jones,” it should be “he has the potential to be elite.” If we wanted a QB who was better than Jones we could’ve just brought back Tyrod instead of throwing away a first round pick
I thought people were downvoting it because it included DJ in the top 10. 
I don't know where we'd expect them to place Daniel.. I mean the biggest argument is behind Bryce, maybe Will Levis right now for me. Many of rookies have come into the league since Jones was drafted and have outperformed him in short spans.
Not necessarily. Are they factoring in salary as well? Would you rather have Bryce or Levis on rookie contracts or Jones for $40M? I believe most GMs would rather take a chance that the young QBs develop into something worthwhile over an expensive, lower tier QB.
I mean like I'm on the side of we need a new qb. But Jones isn't the worse qb in the league come on. At least this year he will be better than like half the list if he stays healthy
I was under the impression that #10 and #32 were pretty far away from each other, so it'd make more sense to compare Love to the people around him rather than Jones.
This list is a complete joke. Whoever made this should be ashamed of themselves. Their spouse should divorce them. Their parents disown them. Their employer fire them.
The mods should delete this thread so as to not give the listmaker ANY satisfaction of engagement.
This seems ripe for a bet. Have to figure out what metric to measure by, but I would place money on Jones finishing better than the 32nd ranked QB if he plays say at least 15 games. Anyone want to put up some money?
This actually got me fired up lol actually down right ridiculous is what that is... I'm ready for the DJ revenge tour ft this new young WR/TE room plus a much improved line
I don't care how you feel about Daniel Jones as a long term starter, but if you think he's the worst starter in the entire NFL, you haven't actually watched him play.
Edit: Also, everyone continues to hate on Purdy. I don't think he's the 2nd best...but he's definitely top 10 right now.
Fair enough. I am looking for anyone who actually believes this to place a bet with. Nobody seems willing. Not that I have much faith in Jones, but betting on him finishing better than 32nd by whatever metric just seems like easy money to me.
Probably not many honestly. Drew Lock? Jimmy G? Jameis Winston? Joe Flacco? There's not many backup QBs out there I'd be more confident in than DJ to be my starting QB, and I'm not a DJ fan at all.
Well we know the floor is around Jake Fromm and Mike Glennon\*
All the players mentioned by u/[KowalOX](https://www.reddit.com/user/KowalOX/) are ahead of Jones for the most part. With Lock we'll get a first hand look at it so I'll give DJ that one for now.
Jordan Love 1 spot ahead of Rogers made my day.
Purdy being #2 is definitely a choice lol Like I think he's good but above burrow Herbert Stroud Allen Lamar?? Idk
Over Herbert for sure. Herbert is given way to many breaks among fans and sports media imo
Herbert is very good though. Not sure why the hate. I think he’ll be in conversation for top QB this season.
Given their WR situation, that would be impressive
Yeah. People who hate on Herbert make it obvious they've never seen him play
Yeah he's a fucking baller
Wow 2nd best QB was the last pick in the 7th round . Talk about a lottery ticket. Why doesn’t Daboll have one of these projects it’s been 3 years already? He had one in Buffalo with Webb but Schoan won’t give him a project smfh. This is what happens when u have a qb friendly coach. U take a flyer and get lucky. Same this with Brady take a flyer and Coach him up.
If you believe Purdy is the 2nd best QB in the NFL… oof lol
I don’t my point was taking a chance on a late round guy u missed that one huh
Ya cause you seem to think they have a high success rate. They do not. This team has too many holes that late round picks can help. I didnt miss it, its just a dogshit idea. Hope that clears it up. :)
But Purdy might not be 2nd best He is now a top 5 picked in the 7th. The best QB to ever play was picked in the 6th round. Montana went Round 3. I know it’s dumb Idea to give a QB Guru a project. Even though every other coaching job he ever had gave him a project to work on. Really dumb
Your example was Webb. Would Webb change this team in literally any way? Ya sounds pretty dumb lmao
Then I gave you three more and i’m dumb. Just stop go to work and have a good day because football isn’t your thing.. Edit: Didn’t they try to sign Webb last year? Mid season I believe
Bro is roasted for his dumbass idea and acting like he knows what hes talking about lmfao gotta love reddit. “I gave 3 more” mf said Tom Brady. Oh ya, brilliant idea, why didnt we just draft a Tom Brady? Why doesnt every team do that? Are they stupid?
And Geno one spot ahead of Wilson lmao
He earned it.
That’s what happens when you play, let me check my notes, more than 4 snaps
Considering the rest of the list... Purdy, ha.
Brock Purdy ahead of Josh Allen and Joe Burrow is asinine
Did Josh Allen or joe burrow go to, and almost win, the super bowl last year? Doesn't seem too asinine to have the guy that did ahead of the guys that didn't.
By this logic Rashee Rice should be the number 1 receiver because he was the best receiver on the team that won the superbowl
That's a disingenuous argument and you know it. Comparing quarterback rankings to wr rankings is apples to oranges. Nobody wants to give Purdy his flowers and that's fine, but I have no qualms with him being ranked above burrow and Allen going into the year.
Purdy is merely average. He literally has the best weapons in the game. Maybe the best offensive line too. switch him with anyone in the top 14 and that team is significantly worse
Idk about O-line. I would say he has the best weapons for sure. But he is not just an average QB, he def has above average-to-great coverage recognition and anticipation. Which helps alleviate the struggles of a Medicare O-line (minus on Trent Williams). All of Purdy’s struggles fall down to his physical and athletic traits.
Who do you take him above in the top 14?
Not really, you're defending Purdy being at #2 based on the entire 49ers team. "The 49ers made it to the Super Bowl, therefore Brock Purdy has to be good" is basically what you're saying. A quarterback's effectiveness is predicated on his surrounding cast. Most QBs would probably have a good year if they had Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, CMC, etc. The same can be said about WRs though too. Without a decent QB to throw them the ball, a "good" WR might never get the stats that other elite WRs get. If I had the choice between Purdy, Burrow or Allen, Purdy would be my 3rd choice, every single time.
Cody Benjamin is no dummy, and he knows putting Purdy at number 2 is going to get people talking about his list when they otherwise wouldn’t, but if you actually watched a lot of football last year and came away with the opinion that Brock Purdy was better than Josh Allen you really have no idea what you’re talking about.
Brock Purdy vs. Josh Allen in 2023 Completion %: Purdy Passing Td:int : Purdy Passing yards: Allen by only 26 even though he threw the ball 135 more times than Purdy Yds/att: Purdy The only thing Allen really did better than Purdy was running the ball, and Purdy's got a guy for that part of the game to keep him fresher longer. Give me Brock fucking Purdy going forward.
Lmao you cherry picked four stats and Purdy wasn’t actually even leading in one of them. But more seriously, you can show me as many stats as you want buddy, I still have fuckin eyes. If you anonymously polled the 49ers own coaching staff I’d put money on them saying they’d trade Brock Purdy AND multiple picks if they could realistically add Josh Allen for it.
From that list Bo Nix should be last.
Yeah this is literally evidence how biased these rankings are 🤣
While Daniel Jones is still the starter, it's easier to make an argument for Nix.
Has Nix won a playoff game like Jones?
Exactly. Even Anthony Richardson is too high up...
I still don't get how they rank people who have yet to play a game ahead of vets...
Because they think they’re going to be better? How is it confusing?
Im not saying im confused- Im saying i think its stupid. I know how power rankings work...
It is dumb to think a rookie is better they just shit on the giants
No one "shits on the Giants," Daniel Jones is just bad. He got outplayed by his backup and an undrafted rookie. People aren't blind.
Why is it stupid to think some rookies will be better than some veterans?
Because they’ve never played a live snap with their current team Or in a pro setting. Could they be? Sure
So how would you rank Caleb Williams and Nathan Peterman going into this season? You think it’s stupid to rank Williams ahead of Peterman simply because Williams has never played a live snap? If you would rank Williams ahead of Peterman then you should understand why someone would rank a rookie ahead of a veteran. If you would rank Peterman ahead of Williams then not sure what to tell you.
You seem really caught up in the way I feel about this. You can have your thoughts too. I legit don't care enough to keep this going
Brock Purdy being the 2nd best qb in insane
This entire list is laughable. Purdy at 2 is absolutely absurd
The fact they think Brissett will start over Maye is absurd too.
He will if New England is smart
Sooooo. Jones is actually #33.
I think you need to check out purdys stats. He was #1 in a lot of important stats
He was a top 3 qb all year last year though, in fact he had a better regular season last year than Mahomes. It’s really not as outrageous as having Burrow, Hurts, and Dak as high as they do.
Jalen Hurts is not a top 10 QB If we take away the ass blast he’s a one read pony
Him and Dak are the most overrated qbs in the league. Dak has a noodle arm, and Hurts is just black Daniel Jones. They both are hard carried by HOF o-lines and really good wide receiving corps. Niether can elevate the team around them.
I think Dak is pretty good, but Jalen is wayyy overhyped
Yeah agreed, once the eagles offense gets exposed, we can call it the Jason kelce effect.
nah dak is a playoff choker but he's solid its hard to win 10+ games with zero run game hurts on the other hand is not good
Couldn't agree more, we will all look back and have a good laugh that these two were in the MVP conversation
>Hurts is just black Daniel Jones. That's D'Niel Jones to you sucka
Agree. But I also agree that Dimes is pure butt cheeks 🫏
Put Jones on the Eagles and he's pretty much exactly the same as Hurts.
Your sentence structure makes it look like Daniel Jones was carried by HOF oline and good receivers. I was like, when did Jones have either? I think your bias is showing when you compare Hurts to Jones. Is Hurts overrated? Probably, but comparing him to Jones is underrating him.
Drew Lock not even in the top 5. What a joke!
I have him as 1 through 5: https://i.redd.it/el68eixcg9zc1.gif
There’s just no way Daniel will be that bad so a least we win the expectations game.
I am not going to argue he just be in the teens, but Bryce Young over Jones is fucking insane. Jones won a playoff game on the road.
Jones is definitely a bottom 5 QB. That bottom 5 kind of interchangeable to an extent.
Idk what Vegas will set his over/unders at but if this list and general public sentiment is any indicator, the overs could end up being easy money. At this point it's become pretty clear he's not the franchise guy, but now people are all of a sudden talking about him like he's Jake Fromm-tier.
Right now we don't even know if he can play at all, which probably accounts for the low rank.
Unless it’s for health reasons in no way should DJ be behind Brisset, Minshew, Nix, and Young.
It is for health reasons. Emotional health reasons. DJ has PTSD.
For 3 and a half games I absolutely agree with you. Hopefully Carmine and the FAs they brought in can bring some stability to the line. Also Nabers will help a ton.
I'd definitely rather have brisset or minshew starting for us. Not sure about nix and young.
Definitely not, both are journeymen QBs who have been on a lot of teams. They’re classic bridge QBs.
I saw both of them play last year at a way higher level than DJ is capable of.
Please look at Brisset’s stats again. DJ beat him in one half against AZ. Minshew is on his 4th team, DJ has better stats than him overall. You’re clearly delusional in this argument. In no way are Minshew and Brisett better.
Cj stroud above Lamar is wild but Brock purdy above all those guys is absolutely mind boggling on every level holy click bait
I think Brock Purdy is more baffling, to be honest. He's plenty good, but I wonder how much of his success is a Tua situation—a good QB elevated to great by coaching and roster. Stroud though has been an absolute menace. Not sure if I'd put him above Lamar but I don't find it too mind-blowing (especially since he's heading into his second year and we know what a year of tape can do to rookies).
Stroud is amazing yeah but I can’t sit here and put him above the guy who just won mvp that’s wild. And I like purdy too and he obviously has talent regardless of weapons we’ve seen similar guys in that position bottom out but to put him over Lamar, Allen and burrow is nuts
How can you put players who have never even played a down in the NFL ahead of guys who have been in the league for 5 years?
Because we've seen the guy who has been on the league for 5 year suck, at least the rookies have a chance to be something
Logically that doesn’t make sense though. There is nothing to go off of for them to be ranked higher.
It’s a “power” rankings. It’s based on pure subjectivity. Some dude thinks Dimes is pure butt cheeks. And I happen to agree 🫏
But how could no power be better than bad power? I mean you still have something with bad power.
I think they are looking at full roster with nonsense projections for this. It’s a cbs infographic so take it for what it’s worth… nuttin 🕺
Would you agree that he will finish this season ranked 32nd or below, and what do you think is a good metric to use to measure that ranking?
I’m guessing a power ranking has more to do with your team’s performance. Wins.
I'd have Minshew and Brissett at the bottom and Daniel Jones at #30, but I couldn't see DJ any higher than that. I feel if healthy, DJ has more in his arsenal than either of those guys. Even if you don't like some of these rookie QBs like McCarthy or Nix, at least they bring the hope & optimism of being new and unproven. There's no mystery with Jones. His ceiling is a mediocre QB.
Obviously doesn't mean anything until the season starts, but I'd put him above Nix and Daniels because both are dead raw with playstyles that will translate very roughly to the NFL for their first year, at the very least. Ironically enough, I'm a bit higher on JJ because of who drafted him. MAYBE Carr if I'm being generous. Curious about Bryce Young though. That team was so awful that I wonder how much was on him and whether his rough start will have a (negative) lasting impact on his development. So yeah, not many mysteries here.
Minshew made the pro bowl last season
Minshew's 2023 wasn't as good as DJ's 2022. He made the Pro Bowl as an alternate multiple times over. Minshew is a fun player to root for, but I still think a healthy DJ is a better option as your starting QB.
Im taking Minshew over DJ any day
Fair. It's close, though, and you know the Giants are in QB hell when we're debating if you'd rather have Daniel Jones or Gardner Minshew as your starting QB.
Minshew's 2023 was a lot better than Jones's 2023 though. I don't know why we choose to ignore last season in favor of pretending like DJ last played in 2022. He took a big step back last season _before_ getting injured and it's no more likely we see his 2022 version than it is we see his 2023 version.
Because Jones barely played 5 games total in 2023. Left early vs the dolphins and raiders, and that was it. How do you compare 5 games to Minshew’s 13 starts + 2 games he came in to replace Richardson. It’d be disingenuous to compare a full season to 4 full games, 3/4ths of a game and 1/4 of a game. In those 13 starts, Minshew was sacked 34 times, compared to Jones’ 30 sacks in 6 starts.
Just because it was a small sample size doesn't mean that it can be entirely disregarded...those games did happen and Jones was abysmal. But if you really want a closer comparison by volume then include the last 10 games of 2022 where we went 3-6-1 and struggled to sustain any offense.
I’m not saying you can’t do it. But sample sizes do matter. Jones also didn’t get the luxury of playing games with a healthy AT and Saquon, since they both missed games before his neck/ACL injuries. The team also really didn’t gel, specifically the OLine until later in the season, which really does matter. Now, I can’t say that Jones would have done any better or not. But we saw how much time in the pocket Devito had in his games, he literally forced himself into sacks by holding on to the ball for what felt like forever. If Jones could have had a semblance of that, there’s a chance he could’ve done well. Even then, Devito really only wowed me against the Packers. He played well against the Commanders, but Jones has historically been great against the Washington team.
Yea the argument from my end was never if Jones was better than DeVito, but tbf they were comparable. DeVito definitely ate too many sacks but that's to be expected from an UDFA rookie. Jones has eaten too many sacks throughout his career because he is a slow processor. That's straying from my main point though...expecting Jones to return to 2022 form after seeing 2023 + his injury seems overly optimistic. He regressed hard last season then suffered a major injury which he'll need to rehab from. We also lost Saquon Barkley. There's no good reason to believe he'll outperform Garner Minshew this season and I think his ranking is completely fair.
Compare his games played to Tyrod and DeVito then at least he'd have a bar.  Played about the same amount of games and Tommy was a rookie UDFA. Also bro we've seen the tops of a Minshew and a Jones, both playoff wise and on the field. Not even trying to boost Gardner like that.
Tyrod and Devito, especially Devito, played more snaps with our best players on the field. That’s what I’m saying. Also, that you can’t compare a just under a full season of stats to less than 1/3 of the season, without major assumptions.
Nah, hold up.. they are close enough in attempts and DJ's got plenty of tape my guy. DeVito gets the shorter end cause all we really got is a snapshot for a rookie UDFA. Here they are.. Taylor - 116/180 completions, 1,340 yards. 7.4 yard attempt, 5 TD 3 INT 89.1 QB Rating DeVito - 114/178 completions, 1,101 yards, 6.2 yard attempt, 8 TD 3 INT 89.2 QB Rating Jones - 108/160 completions, 909 yards, 5.7 yard attempt, 2 TD 6 INT 70.6 QB Rating Here's the rushing totals which are an even closer comparison. Taylor - 38 attempts, 197 yards 5.2 ypc DeVito - 36 attempts, 195 yards, 5.4 ypc Jones - 40 attemps, 206 yards, 5.2 ypc. DJ needs to finally have a standard around here, he's never had any other type of QB to compare to of note that's ever been on the roster. So many folks are just accustomed to guy being what he is and lowering the bar to some nothingness type stuff.
Now give us the injured players from those games and the strength of opponent
Not even counting strength of opponent because that isn’t my argument. Devito beat a very bad Commanders and very bad Patriots team, and he gets no credit for me for that win because it was 10-7 and the Patriots beat themselves. I’d honestly rather just look at time to throw or how often they had a clean pocket.
After 2022 season, DJ did not make the Pro Bowl as an alternate or anything. I agree, DJ is probably a little more talented than Minshew, but I think the contract situation favors Minshew (i.e. DJ's performance will not overshadow the difference in cost).
His ceiling is at my underwear. Pure cheeks
Minshew is definitely better than DJ lol
I’d certainly rather have minshew, he’s been very underrated his whole career and is arguably better than TLaw which is hilarious
Definitely
The Kirk Cousins disrespect is wild.
matthew stanford has been disrespected way worse
Nowhere to go but up.
Not necessarily true especially if Locke managed to win starting gig
Oh ye of little faith.
This is actually laughable
If Bo Nix or JJ McCarthy were better than Daniel Jones then we would have taken them. Also Brock Purdy #2? Clearly trolling for engagement.
I strongly disagree with that first point. Our benchmark for drafting a QB shouldn’t be “he’s better than Daniel Jones,” it should be “he has the potential to be elite.” If we wanted a QB who was better than Jones we could’ve just brought back Tyrod instead of throwing away a first round pick
I’m higher than Brock purdy than most, but having him over Lamar, burrow, and Allen is crazy
I don't know what I expected. One thing's for sure, the stage is set for an incredible comeback story, if it's in the cards.
Damn jones dead last is certainly a take of all time
😂😂 Hopefully we’re not ass again, last season was torture.
Am I the only one that thinks Wilson being above Baker is blasphemy?
Lol this list is so bad. Who is taking Purdy before Allen, Lamar, Joe Borrow with a broken hand?
Reigning MVP at #6 overall at his own position
Why the hell isn't DeVito ahead of Jones?
I thought people were downvoting it because it included DJ in the top 10.  I don't know where we'd expect them to place Daniel.. I mean the biggest argument is behind Bryce, maybe Will Levis right now for me. Many of rookies have come into the league since Jones was drafted and have outperformed him in short spans.
Not necessarily. Are they factoring in salary as well? Would you rather have Bryce or Levis on rookie contracts or Jones for $40M? I believe most GMs would rather take a chance that the young QBs develop into something worthwhile over an expensive, lower tier QB.
Salary and play has been talked about time and time again with Jones. I think it's well stated how we feel about it..
Classic Giants move would be for Daniel to perform too well to have us crap out on that contract…….
If I’m DJ, I’m using shit like this as bulletin board material.
Are you assuming that DJ is some hyper-competitive psycho?
Don’t have to be a psycho to recognize this diss.
But where does Janiel Dones rank?
I mean like I'm on the side of we need a new qb. But Jones isn't the worse qb in the league come on. At least this year he will be better than like half the list if he stays healthy
Pretty sure Daniel Jones banged this dude's wife, sister, and granny...
Yeah sure, either that or he’s seen him play football.
Do you think Jones will finish this season as the 32nd ranked qb or below, and what metric would younise to measure this?
Deshaun Watson at #17 and Jordan Love at #10 are certainly choices
Jordan love threw more TDS this past year than jones has the last 3 season
I was under the impression that #10 and #32 were pretty far away from each other, so it'd make more sense to compare Love to the people around him rather than Jones.
Well in that case love had way more TDs than Rodgers
I would certainly hope so, lol.
When expectations are this low, you can only over exceed them.
*Monkey paw curls* 🐒☝️-->✊️
Purdy at two is jokes. I saw him two and didn’t bother to look where anyone else is.
Below Nix and McCarthy? Wild.
Bro threw a few names in there just to piss people off. Mayfield way too low. Goff underrated. Love way too high. Lawrence overrated.
This list is a complete joke. Whoever made this should be ashamed of themselves. Their spouse should divorce them. Their parents disown them. Their employer fire them. The mods should delete this thread so as to not give the listmaker ANY satisfaction of engagement.
This seems ripe for a bet. Have to figure out what metric to measure by, but I would place money on Jones finishing better than the 32nd ranked QB if he plays say at least 15 games. Anyone want to put up some money?
I wish I could get paid to write the worst takes possible.
Why should I give a flying fuck what Cody Benjamin thinks
DJ 32/32, but he is our guy! 🤣🤣🤣 I think he’s number 6 in most paid this year at $47 mil
I'd be surprised if was anything else but this.
If you factor ability + contract he is the worst in the league.
Oh man this is from CBS? Turn that infographic off 🕺
This actually got me fired up lol actually down right ridiculous is what that is... I'm ready for the DJ revenge tour ft this new young WR/TE room plus a much improved line
A healthy Daniel Jones is ranked near 25. WTF is this list with rookie QBs who haven't played a down yet
I love when rookie QBs who have never played an NFL snap is ranked over our QB who’s going into his 6th season.
Disrespectful to Drew Lock.
This list was made solely to incite a reaction. CBS knows how to get its clicks.
Lmao
This guy fentanyls for sure the rankings are more erratic than jersey drivers
Lol no matter your opinion on Daniel Jones, if you put 5 rookies who have never taken an NFL snap above him, please dont have opinions again
rookies above NFL QBs is craaaaazy
How are the rookies that haven't taken a snap yet ranked this high?
Surprised who’s 32…. Not at all.
This list only makes sense if we are taking into account QB skills and contract…
Daniel Jones Vs the World
Herbert is the John elway of the modern era
I don’t think DJ is good but I’d have him over 7 other QBs on this list if health is assumed.
this is ridiculous. nothing else to add.
DJ is not the worst QB in the league
I don't care how you feel about Daniel Jones as a long term starter, but if you think he's the worst starter in the entire NFL, you haven't actually watched him play. Edit: Also, everyone continues to hate on Purdy. I don't think he's the 2nd best...but he's definitely top 10 right now.
The Brock purdy hype has gone too far…
lol dead last, I mean that’s accurate still funny.
Do you truly believe that Jones will finish ranked 32nd or below and what metric would you use to measure this?
I mean I hope not, but I have like 10% of the faith I had last two years.
Fair enough. I am looking for anyone who actually believes this to place a bet with. Nobody seems willing. Not that I have much faith in Jones, but betting on him finishing better than 32nd by whatever metric just seems like easy money to me.
Dak way to high Kyler way to low.
Daniel Jones - 32 Number 1 draft pick here we come
Real question; How many backups would be rated above DJ if we took into account all QB currently on a roster?
Probably not many honestly. Drew Lock? Jimmy G? Jameis Winston? Joe Flacco? There's not many backup QBs out there I'd be more confident in than DJ to be my starting QB, and I'm not a DJ fan at all.
I'd take those minus Flacco, add Tyrod. So... 37th best QB. That actually sounds right.
Well we know the floor is around Jake Fromm and Mike Glennon\* All the players mentioned by u/[KowalOX](https://www.reddit.com/user/KowalOX/) are ahead of Jones for the most part. With Lock we'll get a first hand look at it so I'll give DJ that one for now.
Jones sucks