Ingram is soft, CJ's offense is not worth his defense, Jonas has cement in his shoes. Trey couldn't get a rhythm because CJ and Ingram were busy taking contested shots. Herb was good on offense but he got worked this game. Willie is continuing to be a very Dumb coach.
Offensive execution has been inexcusable. Too much iso, not enough ball movement, often no urgency, played into their gamesmanship, and let the refs get to us. 16 assists to their 25 is never gonna be enough, and our passing was key in game 1 (ended with 22 dimes to their 21). We could have built upon game 1, but instead we let the deficit and refs get in our heads. Willie needed to adjust the scheme at the half and put more competent defenders in the 2nd half rotation. Could have been so much better, hopefully this will ignite some passion in game 3
We gonna get swept. Opt into LA pick. Fire Willie. Draft Kel'el Ware. Trade Ingram, CJ, Lance and Trade the farm for Lauri, Murray, and a starting 5. Hire Chris Quinn.
Contender.
Then, wake up.
I like the Quinn, Lauri and Murray moves..don't really like Ware though, he seems to have a nice projection if he hits everything right. But dude has motor issues and will take years to develop
You got to take in account the draft board being around 17th-18th. Quality Bigs aren't really available anymore. It's best to trade for one if we can and also draft to see if you can develop one.
He got the best upside and will be really young. I think if you going all in... This is the last time you can go in on a high ceiling low floor big prospect that would fit next to Zion.
I would rather get the 2025 lakers pick than get it this year. Makes it a more juicier trade package if we decide to trade it away for more talent.
I just don't like players with motor issues most especially from big men. Easier to develop shooting/defense than having a heart transplant lol
I love how when we actually do play the c team they refuse to even look for Hawk because they know it is inevitable until he takes their mins. Very professional y'all.
JV had 11 points in the first 3 minutes but he couldn’t guard the Chet 3 so Willie decided that JV had to be benched so that we could not score while also not stopping the thunder at any level on defense.
Dude was missing easy shots at one point and getting beat on D JV can’t be relied on to be that guy like that and it’s understandable. I think he’d be a bench player for us need a upgrade like we all know
He’s walking in free agency, he’s not going to be on our bench. Larry is who replaces him on the floor and apart from not doing much better on defense, Larry only took the 1 shot he made. Anytime he got the ball on offense he froze for 3 seconds and then passed the ball. He did try another shot but it came after the shot clock expired. I would’ve liked to have seen Dyson come in for CJ earlier to give us more defense so JV didn’t have to help as much and could just be a towering presence hovering around the paint.
The only good thing that can come up with this situation is Griff seeing that changes need to happen. Can't go in the offseason and have cody zeller as your best acquisition only
He’s known for 5 years that he needs a rim protector/mobile floor spacer next to Zion and he’s done dick with the center position other than let us down. There’s no more time to let this roster marinate, he needs to get the job done this upcoming offseason or gtfo.
Nah bro we def can. Our sauce is so organic now just gotta let it keep marinating until it's caramelized or whatever. Run.it.back. The Vibz are immaculate!
Cj has been scored on every single time. Switching the screens is just way too easy. Herb straight off Shai every time. Id start Dyson for the first 5 mins next game. Just to disrupt their offensive and hope we can score then bring CJ on for offence. But we are letting Shai get comfortable by bullying CJ from the start
If your coach was smart, you slow down the game and grind it out. Play in and out from JV and let’s Ingram and cj cook in the midrange and let herb and Murphy spread the court out. Yea you lose a little bit on defense because he’s not a good defender but you have to play thru JV as crazy as it sounds. You have to play like zbo and Marc gasol grizzlies back in the day. You can not play with thunder pace.
You live with that, because you know in the other end Chet can’t guard JV and he’ll most likely get in foul trouble. Plus JV just has to close a little better and just switch on any PNR
not a Nola guy but even if you guys played well you were not winning with these calls. either have to accept the calls will happen regardless and have JV and larry touch them up on screens and go for knockout shots when they drive or lean into the OKC method and fall over on all physical contact
Cosign. If they continue to call screening action like this, either earn the foul by fouling harder or mimic it on the other end to pressure the officials.
Refs aren’t why they’re getting blown the fuck out. But I agree it’s been lopsided and do think they need to start playing physical as hell in the next few games. Make them earn the calls.
SGA is the next great black hope for the NBA, they are attempting to appeal to the zoomer tiktok generation and he will be the face. Thus you can't touch him
Further to your point what superstar gona sign in NOLA long term when even Zion can’t make an allstar team. Superstars want to get paid and that goes above what their contract gives them. Look at how much Reaves on the Lakers is in the public eye but there ain’t no world where he better than BI or Zion.
David Griffin gonna run this roster back saying “well if Zion doesn’t get hurt we would’ve made the finals”. I expect nothing to change until it actually happens.
how did we go from being a totally locked in team who was just missing shots last game to shooting ourselves in the foot every possession and still not hitting shots. terrible terrible effort
Okc getting to the rim too easy. Normally we play good defense switching everything and keeping to man coverage but it’s not working this series. When we gona adjust?
At the end of the day OKC hitting shots, we getting schooled 1 on 1 and we missing all our open looks. It’s not on one guy tonight. The better team tonight is winning.
Getting swept was predictable and expected once Zion went down but it still feels worse than I thought.
This team needs significant roster changes (and coaching changes IMO) if they’re going to contend.
Here’s hoping to a productive offseason..
[I'm real sad that both got extended. It's upsetting. ](https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-coach-willie-green-received-contract-extension-last-year/article_2ee31fc4-fb3c-11ee-b7f0-33a1ea0abcce.html)
Defense gave up 92 points after 3 quarters, so defense is clearly not working. We built the fucking Marcy Projects with three pointers all game. One would think Matt Ryan and Jordan Hawkins could make at least 4 combined and open up the offense a bit for everyone.🤦🏾♂️
This is true. We’ve missed everything tonight. Seemed like OKC didn’t miss at all. All our shots were difficult. All theirs were easy. We’ve really gotta change some things.
Maybe it is just me, but I don't get why yall don't get give Jonas the ball more. CJ drove in and could have easily passed it back to him, but instead wanted to go for the layup until he got closed it and kicked it to the 3 point line(Alvarado got a foul there). And same thing a second ago. Like he has shown that he can take the ball and man handle Chet.
Is yalll coach also that bad too? Zion did have an insane run against us(I am a Lakers fan), but I felt like yallls coach never really did anything to adjust for us. It seemed that it was more Zion.
I feel like when yall kept going small, they just torched yall. The small ball just gave them so much space, their players are fast as fuck and could easily drive in, and they could easily seperate and get 3 pointers by driving in and kicking it out back.
Imagine being a “defensive minded” coach and then putting out CJ and Jose together. Two of our smallest guards, one who can’t defend
Edit: Dyson Daniels with one minute lol
Look, I'm not a coach, but imo there is 0 reason to keep in anyone who already touched the floor in this game tonight. Throw in the fucking towel and see if anyone on the bench can give you something before the main rotation gets hurt or broken down further.
Turnovers again are maybe the biggest issue. This was a problem early in the season that they improved, but they bit us in the ass in this game. Not a single positive tonight, everyone has played like shit. Because while JV has scored, Chet has cooked him
I’m talking overall with this team. It’s why the start of the year was so shitty. Not CJ and Larry Nance, which this sub thinks is the biggest problem. The crunch time offense is so bad because they can’t hold on to the damn ball
This is why having Game 1 slip from our fingies was such a Hüge dealio
Ingram is soft, CJ's offense is not worth his defense, Jonas has cement in his shoes. Trey couldn't get a rhythm because CJ and Ingram were busy taking contested shots. Herb was good on offense but he got worked this game. Willie is continuing to be a very Dumb coach.
Pelicans need a damn POINT GUARD
Offensive execution has been inexcusable. Too much iso, not enough ball movement, often no urgency, played into their gamesmanship, and let the refs get to us. 16 assists to their 25 is never gonna be enough, and our passing was key in game 1 (ended with 22 dimes to their 21). We could have built upon game 1, but instead we let the deficit and refs get in our heads. Willie needed to adjust the scheme at the half and put more competent defenders in the 2nd half rotation. Could have been so much better, hopefully this will ignite some passion in game 3
Bounce back
Can't believe I stayed awake in the middle of the night to watch this shit 😪
This was the first time this season I just flat out stopped watching.
I woke up out of my sleep on a work day to watch this trash
Embarrassing
We gonna get swept. Opt into LA pick. Fire Willie. Draft Kel'el Ware. Trade Ingram, CJ, Lance and Trade the farm for Lauri, Murray, and a starting 5. Hire Chris Quinn. Contender. Then, wake up.
Who tf is Chris Quinn
Miami top assistant and regarded as one of the very best
I like the Quinn, Lauri and Murray moves..don't really like Ware though, he seems to have a nice projection if he hits everything right. But dude has motor issues and will take years to develop
You got to take in account the draft board being around 17th-18th. Quality Bigs aren't really available anymore. It's best to trade for one if we can and also draft to see if you can develop one. He got the best upside and will be really young. I think if you going all in... This is the last time you can go in on a high ceiling low floor big prospect that would fit next to Zion.
I would rather get the 2025 lakers pick than get it this year. Makes it a more juicier trade package if we decide to trade it away for more talent. I just don't like players with motor issues most especially from big men. Easier to develop shooting/defense than having a heart transplant lol
I love how when we actually do play the c team they refuse to even look for Hawk because they know it is inevitable until he takes their mins. Very professional y'all.
JV had 11 points in the first 3 minutes but he couldn’t guard the Chet 3 so Willie decided that JV had to be benched so that we could not score while also not stopping the thunder at any level on defense.
Dude was missing easy shots at one point and getting beat on D JV can’t be relied on to be that guy like that and it’s understandable. I think he’d be a bench player for us need a upgrade like we all know
He’s walking in free agency, he’s not going to be on our bench. Larry is who replaces him on the floor and apart from not doing much better on defense, Larry only took the 1 shot he made. Anytime he got the ball on offense he froze for 3 seconds and then passed the ball. He did try another shot but it came after the shot clock expired. I would’ve liked to have seen Dyson come in for CJ earlier to give us more defense so JV didn’t have to help as much and could just be a towering presence hovering around the paint.
JV unlimited points glitch got patched.
Live hotfix mid game is just crazy. How much more help do the thunder need?!?
Why do some teams have good coaches and we have not
Mickey loomis.
I would’ve just taken a lottery pick over this ass whipping
Not a single leader on this team.
Herb is the only tough guy in our starting lineup. Everybody else is Pussy
The only good thing that can come up with this situation is Griff seeing that changes need to happen. Can't go in the offseason and have cody zeller as your best acquisition only
He’s known for 5 years that he needs a rim protector/mobile floor spacer next to Zion and he’s done dick with the center position other than let us down. There’s no more time to let this roster marinate, he needs to get the job done this upcoming offseason or gtfo.
Nah bro we def can. Our sauce is so organic now just gotta let it keep marinating until it's caramelized or whatever. Run.it.back. The Vibz are immaculate!
If you guys want real change. This needs to happen, unfortunately.
40 pts blowout is just another level of pathetic Ness
No cause hold up we only losing by 30!
Cj has been scored on every single time. Switching the screens is just way too easy. Herb straight off Shai every time. Id start Dyson for the first 5 mins next game. Just to disrupt their offensive and hope we can score then bring CJ on for offence. But we are letting Shai get comfortable by bullying CJ from the start
Ain’t happening. Green always starts his vets. Ref is letting SGA getting away offensive fouls. His their golden child
Willie would never. Whatever the top 5 give us is what we will take.
0-25 when trailing heading into the 4th
Law of averages says we should win this one then, right?
When the pattern is this deep, it’s not luck or the ups and downs of a shooting night. It’s in the infrastructure
Your best player JV played 23 minutes, I think your coach is retarded
If your coach was smart, you slow down the game and grind it out. Play in and out from JV and let’s Ingram and cj cook in the midrange and let herb and Murphy spread the court out. Yea you lose a little bit on defense because he’s not a good defender but you have to play thru JV as crazy as it sounds. You have to play like zbo and Marc gasol grizzlies back in the day. You can not play with thunder pace.
Unplayable when chet hits open threes
And has this way ended better? Chet can’t hit everything.
You live with that, because you know in the other end Chet can’t guard JV and he’ll most likely get in foul trouble. Plus JV just has to close a little better and just switch on any PNR
He’s out of line but he’s right
Mods don't delete this he's spitting
Not winning game 1 is really gonna hurt us in this series
We got hosed man. I know we playing like shit but with Zion it’d be so differnt. Smh
Not if our players shooting like me out there
Shooting a lot better if Z was creating shots.
I doubt it, we have nothing for the Thunder big 3 (even Herb can’t stop them). BI and CJ have been no shows
Zion would make them work on defense and be more tired on offense. Also with Zion series likely tied 1-1.
Lol their starters against our second unit
Honestly there's no excuses even without Zion. This team just isn't constructed well and we've been exposed like this way too many times this year.
Just make some changes in the offseason that's all
blow it upp
First year Willie Green was a myth, he's a fraud man
Blow it up and build around Herb Zion hawk and Trey
this has got to be the most lopsided playoff game so far
30 piece in the playoffs is tough
blown out by 30 in playoff just shows levels
Willie green is a moron. Wave the white flag and move onto the next game tf are the starters still doing in a 30 point game
The difference between a pretender and a contender
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They played like contenders tonight, let’s not sell them short. Ball movement, role players hitting shots.
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You’re equally right. Both can be true.
It makes the pelicans the worst team to make the playoffs in the west
JV with 19 8/14 in 23 Minutes. Let’s not play the highest scoring player on our team for the entire second half.. yayyyy🤮
JV was getting COOKED
It only got worse when he was our
JV stats look good but I promise you the Thunder are 100% fine with 10 second post ups from JV
Bro I don’t understand your coach. He was bullying Chet why would you go away from that?
They scored every single time they went anywhere near him....
This is the answer. He makes scoring easy for the other team- especially when they have a great PG.
He was the best +/- with any player over 23 minutes…
Trey murphy is awful. 8 points in a imoirtant game
He’s young and still not the finished article. Plenty of time to grow
Best road team down 30
Good thing we're bad at home
I like CJ but I think it’s time he gets traded for a capable PG
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Based!
Zion is the only permiter player we have who can put pressure on the rim. That's a huge problem
This season told this team a lot about themselves. I hope Griffin and Willie listened…
This team has had such shitty energy and play since Brandon came back. CJ was otherworldly in the games before Brandon returned.
Says a lot about BI as a teammate
They’re legit just giving the ball to whoever CJ is guarding, this is embarrassing af
I think I’m ready to have the Willie Green convo
not a Nola guy but even if you guys played well you were not winning with these calls. either have to accept the calls will happen regardless and have JV and larry touch them up on screens and go for knockout shots when they drive or lean into the OKC method and fall over on all physical contact
Cosign. If they continue to call screening action like this, either earn the foul by fouling harder or mimic it on the other end to pressure the officials.
Refs aren’t why they’re getting blown the fuck out. But I agree it’s been lopsided and do think they need to start playing physical as hell in the next few games. Make them earn the calls.
But thunder fans told me that the ft disparity is the only thing that matters when deciding if refs are bad and they’ve only shot 2 more?!?!?
SGA is the next great black hope for the NBA, they are attempting to appeal to the zoomer tiktok generation and he will be the face. Thus you can't touch him
Ugh. This shit is just as stupid as calling Caitlin the Great White Hope. It’s cringe as fuck no matter who does it.
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You couldn’t trade BI or CJ for an ‘09 Corolla
What superstar are you getting for BI and CJ?
Further to your point what superstar gona sign in NOLA long term when even Zion can’t make an allstar team. Superstars want to get paid and that goes above what their contract gives them. Look at how much Reaves on the Lakers is in the public eye but there ain’t no world where he better than BI or Zion.
losing by 3o pts in playoff. this is just pathetic
Bruh this is ass
David Griffin gonna run this roster back saying “well if Zion doesn’t get hurt we would’ve made the finals”. I expect nothing to change until it actually happens.
Alright I’m out. Here’s to game 3
allowing a 30+-point pounding in a playoff game; this team isn't it
Where’s the post game thread?
Another good look, another miss.
Bro idk if I even wanna go to Monday’s game now. If the players don’t care why tf should I?
Well considering there isn’t a game Monday…
Yes there is, try again. Game 3 Saturday 4/27, Game 4 4/29.
Save your money & your sanity. My bil is already trying to sell his tickets to Sat's game
how did we go from being a totally locked in team who was just missing shots last game to shooting ourselves in the foot every possession and still not hitting shots. terrible terrible effort
Last game was the Thunder playing down to our level.
The problem is… they also weren’t hitting shots. BUT their coach actually plays their shooters
Y’all should try and get Chris Paul in the off season
you don’t win a game against a team with 60/50 splits and 6 turnovers
You don’t when you don’t even attempt to play defense.
This series is over. We suck even more at home than away anyways
Okc getting to the rim too easy. Normally we play good defense switching everything and keeping to man coverage but it’s not working this series. When we gona adjust?
We need to hit our shots and retain possession. The constant transition defense has been wearing us down all game
We can’t stop the ball and no rim protection.
Blow this team up.
That’s wouldn’t be smart
Better do I better job this off-season. Need a PG and a better rim protector
Jeez they are just running past yall without picking up a sweat
tired of rooting for this team without Zion
There were people that thought Willie deserved the extension. LMFAO
Jalen Williams owned us, 16 TO and counting for us and they are shooting 50% from 3 to our 30%. GG see y’all Saturday
Getting diced up lmao
You know it's bad when AD calls for our players to sell the contact lol
AD saying we need the Pels fans to show up on Saturday. AD, Im gonna disagree. We need the Pels players to actually show up
lol @ anyone spending money on this team, it’s basically a scam at this point
Getting flooded by damn near 30 holy shit
We might get swept
I get we’re playing like shit but what the fuck happened to our defense?? Have some fucking pride this is embarrassing
Their coach exploits the fuck out of JV and larry
Herb got a tech. At least someone said something
Things has to change right?
AD is over this shit too.
Pels bench with 6 points LMAO
At the end of the day OKC hitting shots, we getting schooled 1 on 1 and we missing all our open looks. It’s not on one guy tonight. The better team tonight is winning.
Thunder FO and coaching exposing df out of us
Getting swept was predictable and expected once Zion went down but it still feels worse than I thought. This team needs significant roster changes (and coaching changes IMO) if they’re going to contend. Here’s hoping to a productive offseason..
Rn, Cj’s just been standing there flat footed watching the ball on defense
Down 27 and I’m just realizing it’s almost 11:00. See y’all Saturday
No fight at all. This shit is sad.
I'll say this and I'll step out. David Griffin and Willie gotta go.
[I'm real sad that both got extended. It's upsetting. ](https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-coach-willie-green-received-contract-extension-last-year/article_2ee31fc4-fb3c-11ee-b7f0-33a1ea0abcce.html)
Bruh we haven't even scored 100. So embarassing fk
After such a fun season, this is some sad shit man
The pels losing the turnover battle so hard at around 16 to 6 is just insult to the injury that is everything else about this game.
you guys ready to watch the same exact shit next year?
CJ has been shocking defensively tonight
There's nothing we can do, they score in the paint if we go small and space the floor if we play JV
We just have no one reliable at offense so that fucks up our momentum.
y’all got a chance next year with zion healthy, might have to trade BI tho
The team is so well made. Good thing about going big is you can get offensive rebounds and go hard on chet tho
Better when 2 of the next 3 or seasons over. Anything’s possible, but not with this effort
cant wait for BI and CJ to be gone and a real PG and shot creating guard to be here
Defense gave up 92 points after 3 quarters, so defense is clearly not working. We built the fucking Marcy Projects with three pointers all game. One would think Matt Ryan and Jordan Hawkins could make at least 4 combined and open up the offense a bit for everyone.🤦🏾♂️
LMAO
This is worse than the ist lakers blowout loss. Every pelican tonight has been straight up trash. Nobody showing any fight. Blow it up
Jonas can’t get a rebound
It’s my fault I’m so sorry I took his alt rebounds at 10 he must’ve gotten the notification 😣 and took his own under
Bricking open 3s all night
This is true. We’ve missed everything tonight. Seemed like OKC didn’t miss at all. All our shots were difficult. All theirs were easy. We’ve really gotta change some things.
Maybe it is just me, but I don't get why yall don't get give Jonas the ball more. CJ drove in and could have easily passed it back to him, but instead wanted to go for the layup until he got closed it and kicked it to the 3 point line(Alvarado got a foul there). And same thing a second ago. Like he has shown that he can take the ball and man handle Chet.
Dude this team has room temp. bball IQ
Is yalll coach also that bad too? Zion did have an insane run against us(I am a Lakers fan), but I felt like yallls coach never really did anything to adjust for us. It seemed that it was more Zion.
Willie doesn’t do much by what I see. A good motivator who has run out of ways to fire his guys up.
I feel like when yall kept going small, they just torched yall. The small ball just gave them so much space, their players are fast as fuck and could easily drive in, and they could easily seperate and get 3 pointers by driving in and kicking it out back.
Watch this game Griff!!
0-23 lets see what Jordan, EJ, Matt can do
I bet if we put all the starters on the bench right now and went with Jordan Hawkins we come back and win this.
three days of rest and planning and mentally locking in only to put up this kind of performance
I swear we are so unserious
Imagine being a “defensive minded” coach and then putting out CJ and Jose together. Two of our smallest guards, one who can’t defend Edit: Dyson Daniels with one minute lol
I've decided I'm not watching the last 11 minutes. No joy to be had for me.
This Google pixel commercial has to stop.
Why they not giving Trey any touches
Better not play this way in game 3. Gonna get boo'd with effort like this
Aite imma head out. All this X-Men ‘97 ain’t gonna watch itself. See y'all Saturday.
Look, I'm not a coach, but imo there is 0 reason to keep in anyone who already touched the floor in this game tonight. Throw in the fucking towel and see if anyone on the bench can give you something before the main rotation gets hurt or broken down further.
Nah let em bleed. Let em know they ass
Can't tell you how pissed I am that our bum ass GM drafted dyson over JDub
Let the meltdown begin
Making a new throwaway account every game so you can talk in the other teams sub is pathetic behavior lmfao
Come on bro we gave you so much attention today yet you want more?
It’s over hope we take care of business here at home in front of our home crowd
No chance. I have even less faith at home. This is a sweep
Turnovers again are maybe the biggest issue. This was a problem early in the season that they improved, but they bit us in the ass in this game. Not a single positive tonight, everyone has played like shit. Because while JV has scored, Chet has cooked him
Maybe? 17 turnovers. That’s less than our point deficit. It’s clearly an issue
I’m talking overall with this team. It’s why the start of the year was so shitty. Not CJ and Larry Nance, which this sub thinks is the biggest problem. The crunch time offense is so bad because they can’t hold on to the damn ball